Analysis: With no verdict reached in Karen Read trial, are supporters worried?
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- A third day of deliberations in the Karen Read murder trial ended without a verdict on Thursday. As they continue on, NBC10 Boston court insider Sue O'Connell weighs in on the crowds gathered outside and the mood as spectators await answers in the high-profile case.
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This was such an obvious case of police corruption, and cover up! I can’t believe the jury didn’t come back within 30 minutes with not guilty to everything. Maybe that odd jury verdict form has them confused, but I would think they would simply ask for clarification. Who knows anymore, our society has become so weird.
There is a lot of evidence to go through and the jury is not staying full days, so I am trying not to get excited. I have seen many jurors stay until 8:00 or 9:00 pm or later. It makes me think the jurors need a break from each other and need to go home. This is an example of once the jury is given the case, they need to be sequestered.
Agree with you 💯
My BIGGEST concern is that the MCALBERTS will intimidate the JURY💥💥💥💥💥
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I agree.
I want to feel they are taking time going over everything and decided as a group to stretch it out until Friday. 😢.
If the judge hadn’t told the jury that she didn’t recommend a straw poll on day one, it might be over by now. The public cares because they feel if the cops could do this to someone like Karen Read, they could also do it to them, and not all of us could afford the same defense team. As a generally law abiding resident of Canton, I now fear both the local and state cops, which is not something I ever anticipated.
What about Officer O'Keefe who suffered a horrific death? Does he not deserve justice? The whole conspiracy theory someone setup KR is so ridiculous that they were not allowed to put on a third party SODDI defense due to lack of evidence. There would have been federal charges by now and someone would have cracked over the past two years if there truly was a fight and a conspiracy. It bothers me more that half of Dedham, MA falls for this three card monty shifting theory social engineering BS.
I was hoping they would ignore Judge’s suggestion , as is their right, but sadly no. She was interfering with the juries deliberations.
It’s a massive understatement to call the investigation “ flawed”
Corrupt state of Massachusetts
Toss up with Georgia?
If they’re questioning things this long is proves DOUBT… NG
Or, they're devided.
Hopefully, they're cleansing their minds from her idiot defense. Because it was no defense, there was no dog dna. There was no evidence of him being in the house. There was no evidence of this giant conspiracy. It's just a psychopathic woman who killed her boyfriend. Who is nuts regardless of whatever the police were saying as they were collecting evidence.
The police.
Opinion is secondary to the fact of the crime that was committed
The police opinion of her is secondary to the fact of what she did remember that
The defense has not shown anything other than the fact that she ran him over
Is that ask yourself questions like this?How much is her sleazy defense costing her?
The facts don't add up to Anything else other than the fact that she ran him over
It what makes this really bad is how she's sticking to her lies.And this innocence campaign, which is just disgusting.These parents lost their son.That's horrible
And I truly believe the only reason this goes on is because she's pretty
She is however guilty as sin
I'm shocked though because regardless of what side one is on, the state failed to prove the car hit him . Trooper Paul just didn't cut it.
It's just emotions at this point. They are afraid of letting down JO family.
But if they are hung then they have to say not guilty
No guilty person calls the person they killed 53 times calling them every name in the book. Lol. She was pissed he didnt come home. Also, shame on the DOJ for letting it get this far knowing what they know.
Exactly.
In the fact that she backed up into him and killed him had nothing to do with the fact that she killed him.She's totally innocent even though she killed them.I agree with you.The whole system is corrupt.Karen is a wonderful person and she's not guilty even though she killed them exactly correct.I love your thinking
@@confused86996 I can only assume you are a bot. 🙄
It shows she was calling to see if she killed him or not. She was panicking because she hit him.
💯 omg, the night my partner went out with the boys and didn't come home, I called at least 87 times like a psycho 😂
What a brilliant legal mind you have and her Lexus never backed up to 24 miles an hour because even though she killed him she didn't do it.And if you have enough money to spend on scumbag attorneys, then this is what you got, but you're absolutely right.She's innocent even though she's guilty
I actually thought it would be a quick verdict because only one question needed to be answered and that is, did Karen's cat hit john. To me that is very simple answer. When Bev sent the jurors back she told them not to draw a straw and to go over every bit if evidence. I believe that is what they are doing and it has only been 15 hours of deliberation.
why are the mcalberts partying at vfw while verdict going on
I wonder if they'll get pulled over for a DUI?😂
Last time out
Astounding even one juror can look at this evidence and not come to a not guilty verdict. It’s actually scary this went to trial.
Forget about the supporters. Is Karen worried?
I hope so.
@@nadinenc3097why would you hope so? Are you Jen Macabre?🤦♀️
Obvious corruption in this state
Absolutely. Every single police officer in this state is corrupt. The entire system ISIS rigged and we should have Donald Trump as the judge in this case. Because everything is corrupt and everything is wrong. And Karen, the murderer. She ISIS a wonderful person. Even though she killed him she's innocent and she should walk free. Because there is reasonable doubt that even though she did kill him, she really didn't kill him because she did kill him and the fact that she let him die and that she knew exactly where he was and everything and every detail adds up to the fact that she ran him over, but let's not. But count the facts.Let's just ask for Karen to have Justice because this is all about Karen and every single cop in Massachusetts was responsible for his death.In fact, we all covered it up.Because this is a giant conspiracy against humanity.And it's all against karen reid because she's the most special person in this world next to donald trump
Praying the Canton P.D. has not exerted their mob-like behaviors to intimidate the jurors.
They already did.
Ridiculous
As opposed to the FKR TB Nation deranged mob that harrassed police investigators, Alberts, McCabe's, showed up at the children's sporting events, Wrote hate mail to College Dean, etc? So fu**ing ridiculous what you just said.
My heart goes out to every one standing there for days! JUSTICE FOR John and Karen Read
Nobody told them to
Exactly.She should walk free after.She killed him because she's a very pretty woman.And she's not psychotic at all.She has no problem with drinking and her Lexus does not go into reverse, so there's no way that she could have killed them even though she did kill him.Yes, they all need Justice.This is a giant conspiracy against a murderer.I agree with you what a brilliant legal mind
Yes, we need Justice for Karen.Because as a murderer she should be let go because that's what the mob says.....
Im worried! I figured jurors would not be able to get past Proctor's bias, hatred and mysogny, but apparently that kind of behavior isnt a big deal.
People lack moral compasses these days.
It is absolutely ludacris why this jury didn't immediately have a NOT GUILTY verdict. Now really wondering is Brian Albert was indeed intimidating sitting across from the jurors. Hope the Feds go door to door jailing the whole town.
My thoughts as well !!!
I honestly was expecting a not guilty verdict in less than an hour.
Not gonna happen. I can't see KR walking away not guilty on all charges.
Rittenhouse was a no brainer and they took four days.
@@leftyswildkingdom2936 Especially with the ARCCA experts, I figured that sealed it.
Thank you for the update
I’ve always said it’s going to be a hung jury but now I’m leaning towards they will acquit her of murder but convict her of manslaughter.
Then there will be outrage considering the mountain of evidence proving not guilty‼️
I am not worried; however, I'm very *surprised* with the evidence the defense team and their witnesses offered to the court and lack from the prosecutor's.
When I got back this afternoon and on line to expect to see a verdict saying Karen Read was acquitted; I was surprised to see that did not happen with the OUTSTANDING job the defense team for Karen did and the EVIDENCE shown to the jury that Karen did NOT kill her boyfriend !!!
I am pretty sure the DEFENSE team is as shocked as I was, and certainly Karen must have been.
Now I am wondering if there will be a HUNG JURY... even wondering if one of the jurors was planted by the corrupt people in the system in that county ???? *Or* ...one or more of the jurors didn't like Karen smirking and held THAT against her, ignoring the evidence she was NOT guilty???
Please…
Takes time to sift through evidence and I did not see anything compelling from the defense. The CW had a strong circumstantial case with a mountain of details to sift through. This was an 8 week trial so if it took 8 days to reach a verdict that would not be out of the realm of possibility. I can't see KR found not guilty on all charges.
What is the Commonwealth's compelling evidence?@@jimmyo68
She had nothing to do with the murder even though she killed him.I totally agree with you.She's totally innocent even though she's guilty.Absolutely correct
@@jimmyo68Even if Karen hit him-Dr.Russel testified&Autopsy show beaten to death dog bites & hypothermia-Brian&Colin&Higgins brought John to basement.He reported Colin for dealing drugs-MOTIVE‼️
I think what has gripped the nation about this case is how law enforcement did such a terrible job at investigating this case, from the second they were dispatched till the trial. Many people believe if Karen Read had not had money, she would have been forced to take a plea and many believe they could be standing in Karen Read's shoes today if they were accused of a crime and the wrong detective investigated that crime. Citizens want to believe the police will do the right thing, and they don't understand how LE can be so unprofessional and biased.
It's brilliant mind's like yours give me hope for the future. I need your advisement for legal counsel. Because even though she ran him over she is innocent. I totally agree with your reasoning. Because in your mind, facts have nothing to do with anything and it's just a conspiracy. So let's go along those rules and let's free Karen because she's a righteous person she's not psychotic. And she loved him very much and she does not have a drinking problem.And her car does not go into reverse and all of the tail.Lights are perfect, so she's right.And your reasoning is right on point.Because your legal mind is so excellent.So proud of your thinking.I can learn so much from you
KR, turtle boy and the defense team created a ridiculous story about a police conspiracy when there's no evidence JO went in the house AND none that he was in a fight. The defence promised a 3rd party culprit and presented no real evidence. Instead, a circus was created.
The Jurors don’t know what we do. We know about the FBI for one.
Not guilty! What's the hold up,????
Why is Karen Read jury taking so long?
Karen Read jury taking their time
Rex said. "These jurors were instructed by the judge to look over all of the evidence, over 650 exhibits of evidence that they're given. They listened intently for nine weeks.7 hours ago
We SHOULD support the Police, just not Blindly.
It is the Rule of Law that should get our real support, not those who often "appear" to be the face of it.
I've seen post online that say canton police are threatening Karen Read supporters with criminal charges. Is that true ?
I saw a video of cops pulling over a car that was blowing the horn in front of the courthouse a few days back to show support with kr supporters.was later reported that the person was ticketed!!?? mind boggling.
Sorry, but I think she’s guilty…. I’m sick of seeing the smirk on her face. She seems to be enjoying her 15 minutes of fame.
Zero evidence of him being hit by a car. She has MS, a brain tumour and quite ill. Hopefully you’re never called to be a juror.
Not worried- Not Guilty! Lexus's dont have teeth, OJO was dropped off- punched, threw up, (showing trails falling on his clothing) got hit in the back of his head, open huge wound gouch (where are the liters of blood) fell down, Chloe got her chance- it got out of hand- their actions deleated calls searches, butt calls, running to Canton PD all prof they ALL knew what went down- initial plan wasnt Karen, but Karen 's mistake was to reach out to JM, and in histerica looking for her voyfriend, thinking the worse talked to much,started self brainstorming out loud- words got taken out of content, but those who took those words as a perfect opportunity to "Im coming to help" as JM said!
Even if Karen hit him-Dr.Russel testified&Autopsy show beaten to death dog bites & hypothermia-Brian&Colin&Higgins brought John to basement.He reported Colin for dealing drugs-MOTIVE‼️
Hopefully the long deliberation is a good thing and the verdict will be NOT Guilty❗️
The jury has sat through weeks of the evidence & they don’t have the legal analysts walking them through this daily like we do.
I believe she hit him not realizing it until he wasn’t answering and she left him never called 911 but went back to see . then grabbed her friends to come back because she didn’t want to be seen as driving under .. sorry !! She’s quilty she even said it
I think the verdict will be in today!
Prosecution closing was lackluster. Also he mismanaged his time. Defense did a WAY betted job.
We all know the DOG DID IT
Gives supporters more time to party 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Sue is an excellent reporter/journalist!
Ummm her defense attorney went to BAT for her - I think its going to be NOT GUILTY.
I pray she not quilty!
Show the clips of Karen's smug look and her laughing. Those would be better clips.
John was a lousy boyfriend.
GUILTY! You would expect Dog DNA to be found on John's clothing. Those dogs have lots of saliva too. That saliva would of pretty much sprayed his clothes. When hikers get killed by animals in the woods there's always animal DNA left as evidence which makes it easy to identify the animal.
I have to wonder if the dog DNA washed off the clothes because of the snow.
Wow, guilty that after the wet clothes were in Proctors care until March 14th when he finally brought them in for evidence there wasn't dog DNA but pig DNA.
@@kristenpino4635 they can find DNA from an article of clothing that's been laying in the soil of a forest in New England for 10 years. That's a mighty lot of rain and microscopic organisms that the DNA has to endure too.
@@debbie5876 please read by reply I just left to another person here!
@@Moe-bz6je Who sent the swabs to the lab? Who took the swabs and how did they take them?
Nope not worried!
Me either I’m glad they haven’t rushed the decision
Cashing in vacation and sick days? I can see it if they are family but wow. If they are just citizens watching, then they must be really bored people!
They are passionate about justice for John & Karen. Big difference
“They’ve gone through everything but my sock drawer, but they won’t go through Brian Albert’s front door"!
Go home you crazy pink KR fans. Crazy older ladies bringing their kids to camp near the court house. Seriously... live your OWN lives.
I have read many of your comments and it seems you have a misunderstanding of trials and evidence.
They are living their life! And you don’t have a say on how they do this! They can stay there as long as they want to.
If People don't fight for Justice, Corrupt Police will get away with Lockibg Up Innocent People. Free Karen Read.
This Lady Reporter is so glib. Stop lecturing the public from you pseudo intellectual high horse.
Jurors are Smart and will not be intimidated by the Mob.
Karen Hit him and Ran away thats why he died.GUILTY ⚖️
Sure she did. That’s why he has canine bites
Maybe you should have watched the trial.
You can tell who is blind to facts..
Did you even watch the trial or are you just DeLuLu? Even if Karen hit him-Dr.Russel testified&Autopsy show beaten to death dog bites & hypothermia-Brian&Colin&Higgins brought John to basement.He reported Colin for dealing drugs-MOTIVE‼️
She's so obviously guilty imo.. But will she get away with it because she's got the money and means...and turtleboy's media mob mentality outside the court house? We shall see.
😂😂😂
Finally a voice of reason…KR will walk while being the murderous. Sad for poor parents.
I watched the entire trial and do not believe the prosecution proved its case beyond a reasonable doubt. You have to follow the law and instructions. It appears the majority of people who’ve followed this case feel the same way. There’s not enough to send anyone involved to prison for life as it was presented. The investigation was extremely flawed, hence the ongoing FBI investigation.
@@BearkingforeverWeather Karen gets acquitted or not The FBI will indict The Alberts, Trooper Proctor &Tully with their 3,074 page report which includes Sandra Birchmore murder‼️ Fixed it for ya
5am call from Karen to Kerry Roberts, "John is Dead." -- How did Karen know.
12:59 am voicemail from Karen to John: "No one knows where you are." But, Karen had just dropped him off. Was Karen blackout drunk, calling for proof of life, or manufacturing her cover-up.
Karen is Guilty.
Did you even watch the trial or are you just DeLuLu? Even if Karen hit him-Dr.Russel testified&Autopsy show beaten to death dog bites & hypothermia-Brian&Colin&Higgins brought John to basement.He reported Colin for dealing drugs-MOTIVE‼️
karen is guilty .Jurors are Smart ⚖️🏁💪
How so?
Getting ahead of yourself?? Settle down
FBI have a 20 year investigation of Canton police department - There will be indictments including The Alberts, Proctor &Tully with their 3,074 page report which includes Sandra Birchmore murder‼️ Why is your name Juan with a girl's picture? Or are you Jen Macabre?😂
You gotta love a fan club for a murder defendant. Fools.
Even if Karen hit him-Dr.Russel testified&Autopsy show beaten to death dog bites & hypothermia-Brian&Colin&Higgins brought John to basement.He reported Colin for dealing drugs-MOTIVE‼️
The only fools are The Albert's, Proctor and The Mcabres-FBI have a 20 year investigation of Canton police department - There will be indictments including The Alberts, Proctor &Tully with their 3,074 page report which includes Sandra Birchmore murder‼️
COPS COVER UP COPS DID IT!!
Sue O'Connell is biased and can not give objective commentary. I personally think that Karen Read is guilty and they busy writing their verdict
Did you even watch the trial or are you just DeLuLu? Weather Karen gets acquitted or not The FBI will indict The Alberts, Trooper Proctor &Tully with their 3,074 page report which includes Sandra Birchmore murder‼️
Interested what in the CW testimony/evidence confirms your opinion, just curious