997.1 turbo to 991.2 Macan Steering Wheel Swap
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- Опубліковано 28 жов 2024
- Swapped my 997.1 turbo steering wheel to GT style steering wheel from 2016 Macan bought on eBay. Easy swap, no dealer programming or module needed on manual transmission. Just need new steering wheel and air bag, got them used for lots less money again from eBay (search for Macan steering wheel).
To get the steering wheel multi-function to work (or to get paddle shifter to work on Tiptronic), I had to swap out the center control/steering wheel module with part# 997.613.289.01. This will require programming from the dealer or someone with a PIWIS. I also had to get a STMV1 adapter from gpsadapter.us. I created a video (part #2) that documented this. I also removed the paddle shifters as my car is a manual and replaced the shroud with part #95B-419-798-B-5Q0 to cover the opening.
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I LUV the new look! That is what should have looked like in the first place. Great job Jimmy....
Agree, thank you.
997 and 991 steering wheels were just hideous.
these new designs are way better.
Good job on the swap...
Thank you.
Hi Jim, this is MB's son, nice job on the steering wheel.
Thank you. Tell your dad to buy his dream car - Huracan or F458
New steering wheel looks great!
I did this mod it took me 30 minutes after watching this video. Thanks!
Could you please show me where you got all the parts? Mine is a 997turbo tiptronic millions of thanksss
Great going mate...I've done the same (Macan's) but got the shop to do it since labour is relatively (bloody) cheap (compared to US and UK) where I'm at! Livens up the interior to no end.
Many people will also need to go to the shop to have the steering column module programmed and steering angle sensor calibrated.
Great job Bro. Your prior wheel looked good too though. It would be a tough choice for me.
Great video an info!
Thank you! I'm finally satisfied, for now, unless/until an alcantara version shows up on eBay for cheap, lol
Thanks for sharing!! Very useful tips and insights!!
Looks great. Update the pcm
I like it workout multifunction. Something about less tech I like.
llooks amazing mate! so the horn and shift paddles were working without the new steering control module or any adaptors? i have a non MF 997.1 so this is quite interesting to me. would be awesome to update to the new paddles and that updated look
Horn worked for me but my car is a manual so shift paddles were not applicable and were later removed. I do believe you need updated module for paddles to work with a TIP trans. I did swap out the center column piece which had the updated module so that I can get the car audio multi function controls to work. You will also need to get it programmed via the PIWIS at the dealer or use similar scan tool than can enable the appropriate feature/function.
@@atm4jim thank you!
Do you have a link for the black plastic trim piece to cover the paddle holes? Great video.
Just search for this part number - part #95B-419-798-B-5Q0. Don't let the picture of the item mislead you as the product photos I've seen incorrectly shows a cut out for the shifters.
That is a sweet looking steering wheel great work documenting the process. Very interested in the swap for my 997.1TT.
Keep us posted on the module and are you removing the paddles later? War the air bag plug and play?
Will the Durametric Pro do the coding required? Do you have this posted in one of the forums?
For manual cars like mine, it was an easy swap, plug and play including the air bag (be sure to get the correct one and with the right connectors tan and yellow), no module needed, no programming from PIWIS (dealer), horn works, no warning lights. For cars with Tiptronic and for the paddle shifter to work, you will need the 997 613 289 01 module and dealer programming, don't think Durametric Pro has that option.
I will be removing the paddles when my special order shroud arrives and will probably getting the gpsadapter soon to enable to multifunction and illumination. This is because my aftermarket head unit does not have a knob for the volume, lol. I hate using the up/down buttons for quick volume adjustment and got spoiled with my old multifunction steering wheel.
There are several threads on various forums which made this very confusing for me and time consuming to figure out even with a friend who helped me out a lot.
@@atm4jim Could you share the part number for the the Air bag
I will be swapping my radio for an Alpine unit in a couple of weeks so the module is a must for me too.
Don't need the paddles either just the cover for the opening.
Seen some with the sports plus on the wheel also not sure if that would work with the module.
If possible make an update video when complete.
@@jayi836 I bought mine used from eBay, cheapest I've found is $459-$699. I got the cheaper airbag, says part# 982 880 201 B 5Q0 on it but noticed the connector is modified to make it fit but no airbag error. Base on that part number, seems it's from a Cayman 718.
From the forum, airbag with the silver trim ring should fit and make sure it has the correct yellow and tan connectors to match the wheel. If you're not comfortable buying used, then new airbag runs $800-1200.
Fantastic! Where would you place the adapter for the multi-function steering wheel? Below the airbag? Somewhere in the steering column?
The gpsadapter sits inside the wheel. I will be uploading a follow up video soon. Thanks.
Jim Wong fantastic! Yes please, thanks!!! 👍
@@AutoAmateur Just uploaded the part 2 video of the steering wheel swap.
Jim Wong awesome thank you!!!
This mod changes the entire look of the interior. Ill look in the comments for the products you used but may help to have them in the description
any idea based on your research if this can be done to the automatic? and switch to those paddles?
Jim thanks again for the part number and information. I will wait until your next video to decide on the steering wheel control modules.
I have the steering wheel, air bag and paddle shifter replacement cover ordered.
Could you elaborate on the hacked airbag connector is it taken from the 997.1 wheels connector? or a spliced connector from the Macan wheel.
I like your new wheel with no multi function. Something about simple is better to me. Maybe im getting old
Are you selling the steering wheel was swapped out. I actually want that stock look with volume adjustments button.
Hello Jim
Good Job.
Would you sell the shifter pads and cover shroud?
Also would you direct me in the sense of buying the steering control module?
Did you need to do any setup in an OEM garage or you did all yourself?
Thank you in advance,
Rodrigo
Yes, on the pads and shroud. Give me an offer and I'll post it on eBay.
If buying a new module, it will need to be programmed to enable various features like cruise control, tip/manual, multi-function and the steering angle sensor needs to be calibrated.
I was lucky with a used one I bought from eBay ( seller is a dismantler) and only had to enable the multi-function.
Hi Jim. I'm planning to buy a whole new 992 steering wheel for my 996. What do you say, will it fit?
Do you mean the 991.2? If so, most will fit except the latest 971 Panamera wheel with the yellow connector. You will need special harness adapter I believe available at gpsadapter.us.
For 992, I have no idea as it's too new.
HelloJim, I accidentally purchase a SW whose main PIN connector are a newer type of connection when you finally install the SW. My question is: is it possible to swap the writing harness so that the SW can finally make the direct fit. Can’t believe I ordered the “wrong” SW. I already swapped out the module because I have a 997.1. Any advise you could share.
Which SW or from what model car? Sounds like from newer Panemera. This site may have more info - gpsadapter.us. I would ask by sending an email to info@gpsadapter.us. Good luck, thanks.
@@atm4jim Yes its from a 2019 Macan. I'll definitely try GPS Adapter folks....I'm so angry with myself...oooohhhhh. LOL
hey, I did the switch from a similar triangle airbag wheel from a 987.1 to a circle 987.2 wheel but i cant get the horn to work. what is the steering module that you ordered? thanks.
997.613.289.01, you will need to program it. I got mine from eBay with the steering column switches that came from a wrecked Boxster S.
Jim I just for my Macan Wheel does the Tan connector on the wheel does fit the green female connector on the air bag. what do you mean by hacked connector? Just want to be sure theres no issues
The tan will not fit the green connector. The airbag I got from eBay was modified so that it would fit. A slit was cut on the connector. Here's what the tan connector looks like - photos.app.goo.gl/Ch8jn3ZL7qvPtbkSA
Here's the modified green connector - photos.app.goo.gl/jKVZSx6SYZA8ReGf6
I don't like this solution by the eBayer but it does fit and the connector is secure and I don't get an airbag warning error. I considered returning it and spending more for a proper connector, but just went with it.
Hi Jim - great mod and videos. Do you mind sharing the approximate price of the Macan steering wheel you bought? I'm looking at an option and am curious if the seller is in the ball park. Thanks.
I bought mine used from eBay for about $600 with a missing wire connector to the paddle shifter and the leather has some minor scratches as expected being used. I have a manual so the missing connector wasn't an issue for me. I also had to buy an air bag which I also bought "used" for another $500. As you probably know, the prices on these vary widely ($600-$3000 typically from what I've seen) depending on condition, options, etc.
Jim, does the new paddle shift work ? I installed this wheel in my 997.1 but the paddle shifters do not work with my tip.
You need updated module part# 997.613.289.01 and programming done by shop/dealer.
Hi Jim, great video! Thinking about upgrading my steering wheel also. Would you know if any newer model Porsche steering wheels fit? Like from 2017 Porsche Boxster? Thanks
As far as I know from the forums and gpsadapter.us, it should fit as most are the same except for the newer 971 Panamera which requires special wiring harness adapter. Check the color of the wiring harness.
Hi Jim, I was able to upgrade to a non multi function steering wheel. Thanks to your video. This is a great upgrade. It really updates the looks.
Excellent, great to hear.
Hi Jim I bought a car steering wheel as well and was wondering where you got that cover shroud from to cover the paddles as my car is manual transmission too
Looks like it's now available at Suncoastparts, select the manual trans option - www.suncoastparts.com/product/SKU718RSWC.html
I got mine at Sunset Porsche parts, or search for part # 95B-419-798-B-5Q0, special order from Germany, took a week. The picture shown is misleading as it has the cutout for the paddle shifters, but is the correct part.
@@atm4jim thanks alot
Jim, did you do a side by side on the wheels, old v. new? Were they the same diameter? BTW, did you sell your old one? it looks like what I am looking for.
I just measured them, the old wheel is 15" in diameter and 14.75" for the new.
I still have the old one, I'm considering keeping it for if when I sell the car.
@@atm4jim Thanks Jim, I would be interested if you wanted to sell it, it looks like exactly what I was looking for. I am daunted by the 991.2 conversion!
Sorry, what steering wheel did you use? Macan to 997? Looks good but not clear what mods you’ve done.
Yes, it's a steering wheel from a Macan which looks very much like the wheels for the 991.2 generation but at much lower prices.
It does require you to get a new air bag and misc adapters and programming for the multifunction controls or paddle shifters to work.
@@atm4jim thank you. Very kind of you to reply!
Hey Jim, i got the 971 Steering wheel that looks like exactly yours, we puted it on in my 997.1 turbo but horn, pdk etc doesnt work :( what shpuld i do
Sounds like you need to have the center column module programmed with PIWIS such as the dealer. Do you have a tip or pdk? Did you swap out the center console module? Not sure why some people's horn doesn't work after while many others do after the swap.
Would the paddle shifters work on the tipronic auto or would you still need the adapters?
If you car is 997.1, you'll need the updated steering control module 997.613.289.01 and programming at the dealer or a shop with capable programming tool such as the PIWIS.
Hey Jim would this work on a 2009 997.2 PDK? Thanks in advance
I think so, it should be plug and play as the 2009+ 997.2 PDK should already have the updated module 997.613.289.01. If not, you will need the updated module and have it programmed. You might be able to remove the steering column cover and check your module part number.
Hi what was the part number of the original steering control unit you had on the car? Thanks
The original steering column electronic unit is 99761329701
@@atm4jim cheers thanks, same as mine so I will need the 289.01 unit. Mega hard to find though.
@@atm4jim hi Jim, I was wrong my old unit is 997 613 291 02 from a 2007. So not sure what it is capable of, the horn works and I can see and activate multi function option on my foxtel nt530. Cannot find info anywhere on what this unit can do.
@@davidhaddow4774 Are you trying to get multi function controls to work with the newer style steering wheel (997.2 or newer) and have the gpsadapter? My understanding is you need the updated module 997.613.289.01 (or 997.613.289.00) from the 997.2 gen for the multi functions to work. This is also needed for tiptronic and you want the paddle shifters to work. Otherwise, it should not matter. I suggest reaching out to Paul of gpsadapter.us
@@atm4jim Hi Jim, Yes i have been in touch. But was interested in the various control module numbers and what they do. It would be interesting what 997.2 were fitted with with generally as it appears the limited supply of 289/299 would suggest there are more.
I have a Gen 1 C2S without multifunction steering wheel with aftermarket CarPlay head unit. Is there a way to match this wheel up? Tks
I can only answer based on my setup which includes the factory Bose system and using the MOST HUR adapter. Do you know if your setup has the factory Bose system and are you using the MOST HUR to make the aftermarket work with the factory system? If so, next, the aftermarket head unit also needs a steering wheel input wire.
Jim Wong hey, thanks for your reply Jim. I do have Bose, an aftermarket amp, but beyond that I would have to check👍👍
What’s the part # for the manual steering wheel shroud? I need the same thing for my wheel, bought a paddle wheel but I have a manual car
It's in the video description but here it is again - I also removed the paddle shifters as my car is a manual and replaced the shroud with part #95B-419-798-B-5Q0 to cover the opening. The picture of the part in many websites is misleading as it shows it with an opening. But that's the part I got and used.
Jim Wong thanks! Didn’t catch it in the video (I didn’t watch the whole thing). Pretty reasonably priced, I found them for around $50.
@@778075 Yes, for P tax included I guess, lol, glad it's available separately. It is just a piece of plastic though.
Is the Macan wheel larger diameter?
The one I got is about the same diameter as my stock wheel with the added padding or about 370mm/14.6". They may come in slightly smaller diameter of 14.2/360mm depending on the Macan model.
Please throw away your styrofoam table cover... That noise is driving me crazy!! Good video though :)
Hey Jim picked up a steering wheel and on the hunt for the correct air bag now, Can you share the part number for the paddle shifter shroud or bezel, my car is a 6 speed.TIA.
I currently don't have steering wheel controls, Will I need the factory 997-613-289-01? my car is an 08 the part number when googled says its for an 2009-2012.
The GPS adapter is the next thing to order after the airbag..
Just received a NAV-TV and Alpine iLX 207 will be installing it this weekend.Factory radio crapped out.
I got the shroud part # 95B-419-798-B-5Q0 from Sunset Porsche for $57 shipped, it had to be special ordered from Germany, took about a week, this is to cover the opening when removing the paddle shifters.
The steering module 997-613-289-01 is for 997.2 and is only needed if you want the multifunction to work (will also require $350 gpsadapter and programming to enable it) or if your car is a Tiptronic and you want the paddle shifter to work. My swap worked without it, horn worked and no errors showing on dashboard. I just swapped the wheel and airbag, simple plug and play.
Which wheel did you get? I got my airbag from eBay Paulmember83 for $459 but keep in mind, it's used and 1 of the connector is green and was modified to fit the tan connector. It works, no airbag warning light but knowing that now, I would probably have paid more ($699+ used) to avoid the "hacked" connector.
Jim, thanks for the part numbers so the steering module 997-613-289-01 will work on my 997.1? I do want to have the steering wheel controls to function with the paddle shifter removed.
@@jayi836 Yes, the steering module will work and is needed for the multifunction. If you have an aftermarket head unit, you will probably also need some special adapter which you may already have when it was installed. I just got mine working and will be putting out an updated video soon. But keep in mind, it's a lot of additional expense and trouble just to get the volume, illumination and station up/down to work on the wheel.
Do you know if the paddles work for 997 c2 tiptronic?
It should, but you will need updated center column module 997.613.289.01 and programming by dealer/shop with PIWIS.
Just completed mine, yes paddles work!
@@andrewchester3160 Nice! I do like how the paddles felt before I removed them as my car is a manual. I even thought about just leaving them, lol.
@@andrewchester3160 did main dealer do programme for you?
@@youloveit1 No, not main dealer, but an indi. He used piwis. I changed the steering column elektronic unit, the clock spring, for the heating support, and of course the adaptor from GPS. After changing those three, nothing connected until my trip to the indi.
He went through the routine as on the GPS web page, but couldn't understand why the tiptronic, multifunction etc were there already, but they would have been there I think from the other electronic unit. After he conducted a handover then things were OK. I think in the end I just said to him, "shall we start the engine and see what happens.....", and of course it all happened....
Did you just eyeball the wheel to get it on straight?
Yes, pretty much and remember to mark a line before removing. Unlike the old wheel, the new wheel had a center marking.
Jim Wong Thanks. When I finally get into a 997, this is one of those must do mods. The newer Porsche wheels look amazing!
@@K1dPhresh1 Thank you! I agree.
Sorry, I just realized yours is a manual, obviously the paddle shifters don’t work, lol
No worries, lol. It should work with tip, but will require programming by shop/dealer and new updated module 997.613.289.01.
Hey brother, ive 997.1 Trip Turbo, i am so into doing this swap on my car also, could you please tell me what i need and where i can find with what code i need etc for trip horn etc to work also thank you so much
My horn worked without any coding but I've read some people requiring a trip to the dealer. If you have a Tiptronic and want the paddle shifters to work, you will need the steering control module 997.613.289.01and have it programmed by the dealer or a shop with a PIWIS.
If you have a manual transmission and don't need the multi function to work, it should be a direct swap.
Thank you! I was also wondering do i need anything else for buttons to work for volume up down etc
And ive a 958 Cayenne pdk sterring wheel does it have any size diffirence than others? It would fit right i hope i didnt waste my money :) Much love from spain
@@porschefreak1034 It should fit. For multi-function to work, you will an adapter from gpsadapter.us
Jim Wong hey Jim, i got the 971 Steering wheel, we puted it on but horn, pdk doesnt work :( what should i do?
How bout air bag light
No air bag light.
@@atm4jim how does the newer model air bag sensor connect with 997 plus. I don't understand thst part
@@davidgrig7707 It's plug and play, but you do need to get a new airbag as the 997 airbag will not fit. It should have a yellow and tan connectors that matches the 2 airbag connectors from the steering wheel.