Remembering The Dillinger Escape Plan (97 -99)
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INFO: The Dillinger Escape Plan is a mathcore band formed in New Jersey in 97. They immediately proved to be one of the leading bands in this genre, creating an insane mix of heavy hitting screams, technical guitar work, mind-bending rhythms and oddly placed melodies. Over the years they’ve put massive amounts of focus and energy into making every song their best song yet, and every show the best and possibly the last one they do. With a crude mix of violence and precision they crafted two EP’s and an album that was hailed as one of the best ones in the mathcore genre. The band was active for two decades and has covered a lot of ground since the beginning, but in this video we’ll take a deeper look into their history and output between 1997 and 99.
What rock band/artist should be next?
Lie Likes Music Yes or Rush
Bloc Party or Fall of Troy
Zach Hill/Hella/Death Grips
Still waiting for CheVelle. ;)
The Germs!
My favorite memory of Dillinger was when Greg crowd walked on everybody's head when they played at an old Virgin Megastore. Iconic.
That clip is infamous. Who starts off their song like that..crazy shit.
"Do do do do dooo dooo do do do do dooooooo..."
A nerd trivia - Greg's way of singing "Fade to black" in the beginning of that clip is taken from "Stir of echoes" a horror movie starring that Bacon guy. Cool movie btw. Cheers from Ukraine.
In some ways they got safer when Greg came on board. They used to hurt a lot of people 😂
@@aplus1080 I witnessed them with Greg 10 years ago. I still don't know how I survived that show xD
I can't even imagine how the shows used to be :O
Thats part 1, right?
I reaaaaaally hope so
Please please please let there be a part 2?
Pretty please!!!
I’m gonna go put on a limb and say he’s leaving the end like they left their songs. With confusion and question marks and everyone wanting more
Dillinger are absolute legends, one of the most influential bands in the hardcore subgenre. Calculating Infinity revolutionized extreme music and imo should be never said in the same breath as BMTH or KE (which I love). Jane Doe is fine but people are forgetting one hugely important and overlooked album and band - American Nervoso by Botch def deserves to be up there. Nice vid but a few flaws.
Oh
U rite botch da shit
Dude, thank you mentioning Botch. I've heard about the band but never actually cared to listen to them. American Nervoso is fantastic. Listening to it right now. Cheers from Ukraine!
@@casperado666 glad to hear it! Cheers from Hrvatska!
american nervoso is pretty garbage compared to we are the romans.
I love their song unretrofied. That song gives me nostalgic feelings because of smackdown vs. raw 06.
The way you pronounce ‘dillinger’ hurts
He does an pretty good job.
*d i l l i n y e r*
It's coz of his accent,and how words similar that are pronounced in his first language
Kilian it’s pronounced “Dil-lin-jer.”
He clearly has an accent your dumb ass.
Understanding Opeth
That Killswitch Engage and BMTH comment didn’t carry any weight or make any sense to me
Right! Jane Doe of course but BMTH & Killswitch aren't even close to the same genre
Placing Calculating Infinity next to that BMTH record is an insult.
Did anyone else notice Steve Evetts had really bad parents and made him first name his last name backwards?
wow mindblowned rn O:
John Belfini like Stanley Yelnats. It’s tradition
WHOOAOAOOAOA SHHHHIIIT!
Parents are trolls
I've known his works as a producer for almost 20 years. And this factoid just blew my mind. 😂
Good video about a band I like but haven't thought about in a long time. Just fyi, I think Dillinger is pronounced Dillin-jer not Dilling-er.
He is pretty acurate
PS
I am from Dillingen in Germany
They're named after an American bank robber/gangster named John Dillinger, pronounced with a soft g. Not the name of the German city. I can see why you'd think that though.
It's Levi-O-sa, not Leviosaa
/ˈdɪlɪndʒər/ ...according to the universal phonetic alphabet the symbol that resembles the number 3 is pronounced as J
No he isnt accurate at all. its dumb as fuck to make a video about a topic u cant even pronounce
Calculating Infinity and Ire works are my favorite albums by them.
We need a part 2 of this!
I asked for this video to be made when I first found this channel. Thank you for doing a video on my favourite band! :)
at first I wasike lie why. But every time I finish one of your videos I am intrigued to check em out. Thank you Lie, youre amazing!
Damn. I'm still kicking myself for not getting into these guys earlier, because I never saw them live and probably never will =(
they disbanded in '17
Now they're coming back!!
Please do Faith No More
or just Mike Patton in general.
Yes
yes please
@My name is Jonas Mike Patton is like sooo unique,I love him very much and Faith No More is like just one of his many great bands
Blood Wolf yep and everyone says he copies the dude from the chili peppers...but even tho that guy is definitely talented, Mike Patton has a very specific sort of talent and he uses it in very artistic sort of ways. it’s like he has a million different personalities through his voice. plus he has amazing lyrics. i’m a big fan
I loved the info in this video - I was an active fan starting in 1998. Interesting to learn this stuff.
I didn't know much about this band, so thanks for this!
Waiting for a second part 99 to 2017. Great work love it!
Thanks. It will come sometime down the road.
@@LieLikesMusicI’d love to see part 2 how much do I have to pay you 🙏🏼
@@allenkramer4601 I'd take 5 grand
@@LieLikesMusicU got PayPal 😂
Their later albums are more melodic and Jazz influenced. I hope you make a video about them too.
I know. That's why i love Ire Works and Option Paralysis the most out of all their albums. So much melodic, and jazzy stuff
happening in addition to the mathcore stuff.
First time I saw this band during the second song they blew the power to the whole building with their full stacks and light show . It’s before cell phones and almost everyone is straight edge so there were like 4 dudes with lighters trying to escort couple hundred teenagers down the shadiest set of stairs ever .
Lol what a cray story. So you had to leave after the second song? What a bummer!!
Great video! Please do a part 2!
Thanks! Why not. We'll have to wait for some time though, so i can cover other bands and topics.
@@LieLikesMusic part 2 please!
Great video, would love to see a full career retrospective :)
man what you're doing for rock music on this channel is very elegantly educational..... ROCKOLOGY \m/
I'm glad you think so! It keeps getting better so stay tuned.
@@LieLikesMusic sure mate....keep up the good work...your effort makes this genre really understandable to the people who think its just noise... you seriously bring out the philosophical aspects of this genre so gently that for the future generations it would be a lot easier to understand the raw emotions of their forefathers' musicality...... and also how and why they put their hearts out in writing lyrics on whatever they felt....one can actually study the musical behaviours of various artists from your channel....way to go brother...
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Such an awesome band. I remember seeing them with Mr Bungle and the following go around at the Troubadour at LA. Every show was an experience. Thank you for the video Bro.
I an imagine. Would've died to be there myself. And no worries. I'm glad you like it.
Lie Likes Music dude. It was an awesome mosh pit. I went with my bass player and his girlfriend. I got to speak with them for a bit after the show. Really cool dudes.
We had never heard anything like it. Dillinger was in the mouths of everyone but then messhuga came along and took over as king of that genera. They went to open for tool in a huge tour for laterallus. Those were awesome times. That was an amazing tour.
I like how their entire sound is chaotic
Hey cool. Thanks for doing this video. TDEP's early music was incredible.
Seeing you put sepeternal by BMTH in the same vein as Calculating Infinity, Jane Doe, and Alive or Just Breathing totally triggered me and made me throw up a little.
TheGerthax absolutely triggered. That shit is so out of line that it's sickening.
wait until you get knee-deep into rock criticism, where every remotely creative and stylistically-diverse album is immediately compared to Sgt. Pepper's
Fucking same, I don't hate Sempiternal but Calculating Infinity and Jane Doe are in a class of their own. Not to be "that guy" but those are albums that are an actual challenge to listen to, understand, and enjoy.
truth hurts. i get it
Sempiternal is by the numbers and kinda boring compared to the albums Lie had put up imo maybe its just me, but that album feels more melodramatic and whiny than musically interesting
I hope more vids come out for this band. They've grown to be a recent favorite of mine.
Can wait for the second part!!!
One of my favorite bands! So sad I never got to see them live
I look forward to part 2 (and 3 ;) )
man i loved your content, suscribed
Today i revisited them , and than this video thx !!!
No problem dude.
love the outtakes at the end
Keep it coming with Dillinger!!
Bring Me the Horizon has no business being mentioned in this video.
I hope your tiny mind has changed in the last year lol
THANK YOU VERY MUCH ,I LUV TDEP , AWESOME
No problem ;) Love em too.
Dude thats not how you pronounce dillinger
I miss you guys!you are my favourite band!!😍
Thanks for watching!
Would be interesting to hear about the several acts that came from the band Botch. Minus the Bear... These Arms Are Snakes... Russian Circles... Harkonen...
Ouh i'm sort of into Minus The Bear. Like their down-to earth indie sound. I'll see what i can do.
@@LieLikesMusic Awesome man, I think a lot of people would be fascinated by how far back it all goes, as well as how much it all ties together and to the scene. I forgot to mention other attached bands like early on Kill Sadie, and late in the game Hallows. Honestly if I had any talent I'd make a full blown documentary, interview folks at hydrahead and all kinds of related bands like breather resist, playing enemy, young widows, etc etc. Thanks for all your content man!
BRO I FORGOT ABOUT RUSSIAN CIRCLES FFFFUUUUUUUCK
God, I Absolutely Love Russian Circles! Never Knew Some Or All Of Their Members Were From Botch! 🤯🤯🤯
Also dill-ING-er? What?!...
I saw them around 2013. Ben did a front flip and smacked his ass in my face, i held him up against the rail while he shredded. Greg also caught me off guard landing right on my face stage diving.
After the show i managed to sneak in the back of the intersection (GR Michigan) i opened a door and the band was there. Fucking Awesome! Very very nice guys!
You opened a door and the band was there?! Wtf... So you went in and talked with them for some time? Man i wish they'd get together again so i can see them live. We need more energetic live-acts like them.
@@LieLikesMusic Yeah, Billy went into a door after talking with me so i decided to follow him. I opened the door and BOOM, they were right there. Some of the nicest guys ive ever met. Their live show and set that night is hard to put into words. Absolute chaos!
Ive only seem them that one time and its depressing i will never see them again...
Greg screeched in my face so hard i heard it three times, Ben kicked me in the face because people were pushing me onstage over and over again as if i belonged up there at that time, (i swear to god those people had a vendetta against me, the crowd i mean lol) and a Nazi lifted me above his head and threw me at beer. It wasn't pretty, but it was definitely Dillinger.
YES!!
Such a good live band
On one hand, I'm sad I never got to see these guys live. On the other hand, I'm glad that I'm still alive and have my hearing.
Thumbs up ! Good voice, nice explanation, perfect narrative !!! Go over 'Needledrop'
Thanks! That's a very creative suggestion. In what way should i tackle Anthony as a subject?
So thankful i got to see them once in my lifetime.
Man i'm jealous.. Lucky you
Needs a part 2! 99-17!
I need more of this! When are you gonna out out a "99-" video??
I’m not sure. But my favorite Dillinger phase is the 00s so i’ll definitely do it at some point.
Saw these guys in New York last winter. WITH Mike Patton. Dang near pooped my pants.
I WAS THERE TOO LUNCHLADY. WE WOULD HAVE BEEN BROTHERS IN POOP
random garbageman Oh my god, when they played Malpractice after Irony is a dead scene??!!!!! Holy guacamole that was insane.
When they walked out to stripper music and played Hollywood squares i almost fell off the second level. That really happened
random garbageman I believe it, it was a very energetic and chaotic show. I attributed it to how incredibly cold it was outside that night. I walked to the venue from grand central, that wasn’t fun.
43 percent burnt from that period rulez!
WIll there be a part 2 where you do other half of this bands carreer?
Possibly. But we'll have to wait a bit. I have a few other videos lined up before that.
Oh hell yeah
There's a book that parodies real life people and events(though some say it is not a parody, but is in fact a true historical account) called "The Illuminatus Trilogy" by Robert Anton Wilson and Robert Shea. The stories of the 1920's bank robber John Dillinger escaping from prison using a block of wood shaped as a gun are legendary, but in this book they portray John Dillinger as the leader of a subversive political movement, who could escape from jail by rearranging his atoms so he could walk thru walls.
Just thought I'd throw that out there as an interesting side note in reference to their name.
Hey Lie, i recently watched your Deftones video and saw that one of the bands you listed Chino and Chi listened to was Primus. Would that be a possible vid in the future? There is no video like that out there about Primus, only mini documentaries and music/music videos.
Hey Fabian. Yes i've been asked that many times before actually. And since i really love some of the things Primus
have done, i'll be sure to make a video about them sometime. It's just a matter of time really. I still have a few videos
lined up before i can start working on a video about them. I'll keep it in mind though. Cheers!
Lie Likes Music Thank you for the reply!
What happened at the end there?
Are we doing part 2 of this? That's putting such a small bubble around them...
Thank you.
No problem! Greetings from Norway.
Love your channel bro!
You're picking some good bands to do videos on thanks. Loved this band saw em live back in the day.
Thanks! I know, only good music here haha. Wish they come back so i can see them too sometime.
Where is that clip from at 5:33?
It's this one ua-cam.com/video/liXFakG0VQ4/v-deo.html
Why tf ain't they on my lofi beats to study/relax to mix smh
The Replacements
Understanding GlassJAw
I saw Dillinger with Thursday right after miss machine came out and as soon as Dillinger hit the stage they opened up with Panasonic Youth and Greg was already crowd surfing by the word plans. It was fucking Epic. To the guy that made the video, you got to do a follow-up and continue the band's history because miss machine is by far the best album and not for nothing but option paralysis and dissociation are absolute works of art and examples of how musicians can go so far outside the box and so beyond what people's concept of music is and be so beautiful and poignant about it. There is no band as original as Dillinger, and there will never be anything like them again. I also hail from New Jersey, ain't nobody do it like mo fukkers from Jersey do it!!!!!!!! I will forever love Dillinger
Man i hate the fact that i might never be able to see them live. They have to be one of the craziest and best live bands
i've ever seen videos of. Anyways, about your request for a follow-up video: that's exactly what i had in mind. My favorite
albums are Ire Works and Option Paralysis. So there will be more of this coming in the future. Thanks for watching and reaching out!
The bloopers at the end were a nice touch ^ ^
understanding R.E.M
God damnit. JER. NOT ING-ER
legends
Justice done to one of my favorite bands ever. Very nice
I'm glad you think so. Many thanks from Norway.
@@LieLikesMusic No problem dude. Much love from the States.
You should do a one on remembering skinny puppy their history is legendary and epic to say the least!
FEAR BEFORE THE MARCH OF FLAMES
That would be interesting. Awesome video! I grew up listening to Dillinger and, yeah, they're nuts. As I got older though, I ended up getting super into music theory (my channel is actually dedicated to just music theory) and it's funny seeing they quote about "ripping up the music theory book."
Take a look at early 20th Century music theory and, uh... yeah, all of that dissonance is welcomed. Haha.
Anyways, keep up the awesome work!
Thanks for your support! Personally i can't stand music theory. It just doesn't interest me at all. But i get what you're
saying about dissonance. Weinman doesn't do the best job at explaining his music. I'll take a look at your channel and
give you some feedback btw. Cheers
No problem! Thanks for spreading the good name of Dillinger. I listened to them a ton when I was bangin' out Number 12, Fear Before, SikTh, etc. etc.
I understand that. If Music Theory is not your bag, it's hard to force yourself to get into it. That said, Music Theory is also shrouded in terrible misnomers and uninformed educators. Too many get barely into music theory and then act like they're ready to teach it. As a result, we get a bunch of "rules" that... aren't even rules. They're just pedagogical limitations usually. Oh well. Haha. It's kinda like only learning what nouns and verbs are in English and then trying to teaching everyone else about grammar and understanding dense passages of literature.
And yeah, Dillinger's music would fit well within the typical mold of analysis. It would require a modern approach that's more akin to set theory. That said, I've never actually sat down to try and analyze any Dillinger! Haha. Maybe I should sometime. Haha.
Been listening to DEP since Calculating Infinity came out and luckily got to see them one last time before they retired. And the show was fucking EPIC.
Every single one of their shows have probably been epic though hehe
Why did this seem like only 1/4 complete?
Budabudabudabuda was my favorite part of the video 😂😂. I'm not that into Metalcore but nice video.
Understanding Minor Threat please?
Fall of Troy is playing in Seattle right now :p my boyfriend loves that album
Mike G yeah it’s up there as one of my favorite albums ever. Manip is pretty amazing too.
Not sure if I can pick between Doppelgänger, ATD-I’s Relationship of Command, or Bear vs Shark Terrorhawk for best post-hardcore album though. I also have a lot of sentimental value with letlive.’s Fake History.
Saw TFOT live last year and they played almost every song on Doppelgänger and it’s still probably my favorite concert I’ve ever been too.
Mike G
I agree that no other Post-Hardcore album goes balls to the walls with riffage, technicality, song structure, and pure insanity like TFOT did in Doppelgänger.
They have a pretty obvious influence on modern Post-hardcore with modern bands like Hail the Sun and a lot of bands in the current scene pay their respects to them. True legends who deserved a lot more recognition imo.
What’s your Spotify user name? Great Videos!
@lielikesmusic. Thanks man. Glad you like em.
How could it all be🤘💗😛
Not the only person questioning this, but who the fuck has ever mentioned Dillinger and Converge in the same breath as Killswitch Engage or BMTH when discussing titans of metalcore? I'm really curious what your source was for that. Other than that, great video as always
Lol i get a lot of bad rep for that in the commnents. I'm not too familiar with this genre, so i searched up
an article with the top 15 mathcore albums. Guess i should use more sources next time i do something like
that.
Sun dripped devil scratched out my eyes
was that ending on purpose ?
That was on purpose yes. Guess a proper conclusion would've made more sense. But i thought Ben Weinman did a good job himself.
Videos I would like to see: The Tony Danza Tap Dancing Extravaganza, Cap'n Jazz, Don Martin Three, Neko Case, Tori Amos, Shannon Wright, PINBACK, and Blood Brothers
PART 2!? PLZ
I like how this video ends.
Now that you did
Dillinger you gotta do The chariot
Do Thee Oh Sees next.
Stephen Owen they deserve it
@@yamytapes5295 They absolutely do yeah.
great recommendation. legendary band
Do Siouxsie and The Banshees
The 'G' in Dillinger is pronounced like a 'j'. That really bugged me dude
Sorry bout that.
dill-injure
omg yes
oi, why only from 97 and 99?? i thought you'd do all of their albums and background and stuff...
i still love this tho
Because they have a lot of stuff to be discussed. I couldn't cover it all in a 10 min video like this so i think
i'll make another video (or videos) of their newer albums in the future. I love Ire Works and Option Paralysis
so this will most likely happen.
John Fulton, one of my best friends of all time. John if you see this....Bill Rice saying hello!
Sun dripped devil sun dripped devil
Dillinger escape plan: The most angry band in the world
the bands they were influenced by were incomparably angrier. check Deadguy
Dillinger is great, but theres way angrier bands. Popular bands like Nails sound much angrier. Check out power electronics band Brethren (especially the song Hail AIDS). This guy sounds like he would come to your house and literally murder you if he had the chance.
You need to listen to Nails if you think Dillinger is angry.
@@drewp.weiner5708 FRONTIERER!!!....no words just nuff said
dillinger's first album is one of my all time favourites. But the whole genre of powerviolence or grindcore could be considered angrier. Ceremony, Infest, Napalm Death. But on the other hand - how do we even measure that??? xD
Part 2 puh leese?
damn, wish he did their full history
1999 was a banner year for hardcore. So many seminal albums came out that year. When you listed those "giants of metalcore," you should have just focused on the albums that came out around that time and effectively influenced hardcore and metalcore for all the years to come. Here's some great albums from 1999 (aside from Calculating Infinity):
Poison the Well- The Opposite of December
Cave In- Until Your Heart Stops
Coalesce- 012: Revolution in Just Listening
Integrity- Integrity 2000
God Forbid- Reject the Sickness
Botch- We Are the Romans
Thanks for sharing this! I'm not too familiar with the genre. Especially not from any particular decade.
So if i knew this before i'd definitely check it out and include it.
Calculating infinity is one of the best albums ever
Meh not imo. It's really good, but not one of the best ones i've heard. I think Ire Works and Option Paralysis
were way more thought-through and fine-tuned.
Lie Likes Music nothing compares to calculating
Finally
Part 2?