Winning Time (Season 2) | Red Auerbach & Jerry Buss Scene
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2023
- winning time the rise of the lakers dynasty season 2. Jerry Buss meets Red Auerbach at the tunnel after the game. #winningtimehbo #winningtimeseason2 #jerrybuss
Here we are in 2024 and since Bird,Celtics never had anything close to the best player in the league. They don't come and go. They are rare.
Chiklis couldn't have been a more perfectly casted indiviidual. Boston guy, lived through the red days. Has that flare to him, he played Red so well
True. He played Auerbach convincingly.
Chiklis is a Boston guy. As far as he's concerned, he's playing the hero.
Amen
He is the hero.
This hits so hard after watching the new core win it for the Celtics in 2024!
"A machine that takes potential and turns it into greatness" - My god, what a line
Their having a convo about talent vs culture. They both have different ways of looking at things, opposite strategies and the writers do a great job here of showing their relationship as rivals.
You can't just write "their" every time you need a word that sounds like it.
@@ME-kd1ko Yet i just did
Red was wrong there was never another bird. Of course he never would have said that in real life.
Auerbach knew how to be a leader. He was just the coach, but he might as well have been the owner, he was the most dominant influence in the Celtics organization, if not the whole NBA. When your great player goes, it's time to find another one, and he was good at finding them, then fostering a culture that will get the most out of them. Put onto a different team, most of these great Celtics won't be champions.
Incidentally, Auerbach did find a great star to succeed Bird in Bias, but he died of drug overdose. Had he lived, he would have given Jordan a run for his money.
Same reason if someone left Jordan or Brady, they would never be as good. Jordan and Brady were the culture of their dynasties. It was not about talent, it was about following a program that developed the player to their highest potential.
Auberbach had a Jordan and Brady assembly line, as he describes in this scene. His talent development skills were his secret sauce.
You don't know what Bias might have done. Saying he'd give MJ a run for his money? That's a heavy dose of speculation right there. Fact is, Bias had character flaws and probably would have flamed out as a player because of those flaws instead of having the grit and will to be a champion. So, I call bullshit on your opinion. Cheers.
@@JM-db8ez Bias had his flaws, but if they were they serious, Auerbach would not draft him.
@@broadstreet21 One of his flaws killed him. So...alright. Maybe he would've been good, maybe great, but saying he would have given MJ a run for his money--nah, don't believe it.
@@JM-db8ez If his otherworldly talent wouldn't have done it, the fact he is playing for the Celtics, whose culture tends to get the most out of players and causes them to thrive, that would give him a leg up.
0:49 love this scene so much, but Red’s wrong here. Sure, they’ve had Pierce, and they now have Tatum, but nothing at Bird’s level since his retirement in the early 90s. A culture can manufacture exceptional players, mold together a superior team, but true greatness in the generational sense is extremely rare and hard to come by.
We had Len Bias, but... you know
@@fatbuddy719 ya larry bird could have more rings if Bias was still here.
Auerbach was right about one thing, he built the organization to be bigger than him. When he goes, he has raised up many up and coming leaders who could take his place. Danny Ainge was one such guy. That's what really made him great, he could raise up more leaders.
And over his tenure, he put together one championship winning squad after another. He had the Russell dynasty in the 60s, and when Russell retired, he found Cowens. When Cowens retired, he drafted Bird. That's how he kept winning championships.
Unfortunately, by the time Bias died, Auerbach had retired as president, wasn't around to find the next superstar - aside from Reggie Lewis, who also died. And then Celtics ownership just wasted everything, neglected to build until the house decayed. They only rebuilt after new owners bought the team and hired Ainge. (I kind of wished Auerbach also owned a stake in the team).
Of course, had Bias lived, and lived up to his expected potential, the Celtics would have won maybe four more titles and remained a contender in the 90s. And by the time Bias retires, they would plunge back into the abyss - and into NBA draft contention for... LeBron James.
You need to read up on Len Bias and Reggie Lewis…
Red isn't wrong. He's 100% right. The Celtics are the top tier standard for any basketball org. They lead the way for the rest to follow. Champions today stand on his shoulders.
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Only the Celtics 2nd championship in 37 years, & it was the easiest path to the finals in NBA history. 😂😂😂
2024 Cakewalk Championship.
I've said this before, but Chiklis is a Boston guy and a huge Celtics fan. As far as he is concerned, he's playing the good guy in this story, not the Big Bad.
@@disintegrateallhumans3067 tell that to the 80s west, the most trash conference in NBA history. Best player magic had to play in the western playoffs in the 80s was freaking Alex English for Christ’s sake
Tough Scene! Shows the competitive nature of building dynasties.
This is such a weird scene to me. I thought Red’s portrayal in the show was one of the best parts, even if it did feel very over exaggerated, but this scene didn’t really land with me. It feel way too meta and immersion breaking to me. I don’t buy for a second that Red had this deep philosophical conversation about the future of the Celtics with Buss the night of Game 7. Yes, I know it’s a dramatization but still. And it felt strange to see him refer to his real life close friends like Russell and Cousy by their last names.
Again, I’m not hating, but this is just an overall strange scene.
Maybe Red did think this way but his pride always got in the way.
His interviews show that.
The fact that Bird retired and Boston became an afterthought for the next two decades does undermine the position juuuuuust a little bit.
You obviously don't know about Len Bias and Reggie Lewis.
@@HayastAnFedayi and about how the rest of the NBA voted NOT to let the celtics remove reggie's salary from the salary cap. I mean, when a player is injured for a year, the rules say take a part of his salary out of the cap to let the team get some cap space, but when reggie DIED? The team VOTED AGAINST such a thing. The Celtic HATE is real
@@philiptangatue for sure it is! And look how they recovered after the death of both, they took a hit in the 90s, but were right back at it with Pierce and company and now are on the precipice of a possible new beginning of another dynasty.
well, after last night, who cares. 18 banners, most all time, it all works out.
Please read up on what happened to Len Bias and Reggie Lewis the two guys that were to follow Bird