Cryomancer perk : Stat Bonuses : +1 second freeze duration per 5 levels +1% Damage to frozen targets per level +0.8% Reload speed per level +3% Fire resistance per level, starting with 25% XP targets : Freezing zeds with perk weapons Killing frozen zeds with any weapons Skills Tier1(Ammo) Deep freeze : +3s Freeze duration Nitrogen compressor : +30% reserve ammo Tier 2(Support skills) Shatter : +20% damage to frozen targets Absolute zero : Increase weapon effectiveness by 25%, freezing targets faster with less ammo Tier 3 (Offense skills) Rigid cold : Frozen targets have 50% chance to explode upon death Blistering cold : Inflicts damage over time to frozen targets Tier 4(Wild cards) Cone of cold : Increase freeze weapon AoE by 50% Yeti hunter : Increase freeze duration for Fleshpound and Scrake by 5s Tier 5(Zed time) Zed time - Blizzard : During Zed time, freezing a zed creates up to 5 icy storms that freeze and damage nearby enemy. Perk weapons freeze targets instantly Zed time - Avalanche : During Zed time perk weapons gain infinite ammo, fire in real time, freeze targets instantly I know that chance of perk such as this being added is very unlikely but it's fun to think about it lol
Ice, Ice Baby. Ice has one benefit; Nothing in the game resists it, so it does flat damage across all zeds. If anything, that should've been Survivalists main play style; Focus on freeze damage. "Getting my flesh pounded" -Pathfinder Lube up!
4:55 I pick LLLLL survivalist when I find that my team has a bunch of chaotic perks, but 1 or 2 precision perks. The issue being is that the precision perks are not very effective in environments of high chaos, so I grab a freezethrower to counter it a bit. A single upgrade in freezethrower will raise beam damage by 40%, and shards by 15%. The first upgrade lets me kill trash with the beam much faster so I can dip sooner and not generate too much chaos via aggro. The upgrade also saves you an alt fire when performing 6p HoE executions. However, due to the lack of range and time it takes to perform the execution, I have to clear out the other trash first. It is worth noting that you almost never have to reload freezethrower outside of zed time if you utilize the post fire mechanic. With 7 slots left, I focus on trash killing weapons that generate a minimal amount of chaos. Centerfire/500 Magnum: Pre-damage/Riot killer Winchester/M1911/Deagle/101: Trash killers Now of course, there are many potential loadouts for surv, but as long as you have freezethrower or killerwatt for large zeds, and are able to switch between precision, neutral, and chaotic playstyles on the fly when killing trash, you should be fine. Oh, and before I forget: never use the freezethrower's primary fire during zed time, or any beam/spray based weapon when you get full fire rate. For whatever reason, all that happens is that the animation for the beam is sped up, but the rate by which zeds take damage doesn't change. In other words: freezethrower's primary fire is a massive waste of ammo during zed time, and you should just stick to alt fire during that time. Don't forget to reload right before zed time ends to instantly reload.
Interesting. I use LRLRL. LLLLL was superior in original survivalist that had weaker skills. The only skill really matters for survivalist in his entire tree is 3rd skill and that's because extra weight allows him to upgrade weapons to offset his poor damage values. The general formula for survivalist is 1 trash killing weapon+1 big zed weapon. In term of the best low-cost weapon that does everything for survivalist in early game is crossbow. The reason being is that it deals enough damage to either 1 shot or 2 shots just about every trash zed in the game, 1 shot just about any medium zed in the game and it's damage type is almost able to even takedown scrakes in some cases along with having very high ammo efficient from picking bolts. I would say top 3 weapons for trash killing for survivalist is 1- Hng Nailgun(Swat), 2- M14 combat rifle(Support),M1911(Demo assault rifle) I would say top 3 "big zed killers" for survivalist would be 1- Railgun/HRG Incision, 2- Kilowatt, 3 RPG If you had unlimited money, the best loadout would be AA-12+M79 Grenade launcher as you would be able kill all trash+scrakes with AA-12 and FP+all trash but you would never be able sustain this cost in normal game because ammo costs would be insane. Freezethrower is good cost-efficient ammo weapon that can be used as trash killing weapon with primary fire and medium zed with alternate fire, but it's just often not worth freezing zeds over just doing raw focus fire to takedown big zeds. If they ever want that to be a role for survivalist, they should make a tier 5 freeze weapon for survivalist called freeze ray for freezing raged big zeds.
Another special thing about freezethrower, it shoots 12 pellets, other shotguns shoot maximum 10 pellets per shot, it's also has penetration power of 4, while no onter shotguns for 1100 cost or even more expensive shotguns have that much penetration, vlad 1000 have penetration power of 3, doomstick has power of 5, any other shotguns have penetration power of 2.
Lately my favorite survivalist loadout has been Hemocobbler+Doomstick with heavy weapons, melee expert, med grenades, and zedsplosion. Also Mosin Nagant+Dragonsbreath+spitfire/M1911 is a fun 'WW1' style loadout with heavy weapons, better healing, med nades and zedsplosion
I have been experimenting, an hmtech grenade rifle to poison and get rid of trash and the icethrower to freeze fleshpounds and scrakes, usually for when we train them
Survivalist with Riot Shield and glock18 aiming gives 60%damage reduction on top of 25% from perk and heavy armor on perk as well preventing hp damage before armor is gone. You can drop healing grenades at your feet and face tank so much
11:12 Um... Path? You're aware that zeds have cooldowns for each affliction, right? There is no such thing as an "inconsistent" affliction as it has nothing to do with probability.
Was more so talking for the boss, I know zeds have a couple of seconds of immunity to any kind of affliction. The boss can start an animation right before you want to freeze/stun him so it doesn't work as reliably.
I found that fully upgraded Winterbites can do a heck of a lot of damage. And since they don't have a lot of recoil you can spam them faster. The reason Zeds jump is that when you hit them, the rounds from the Winterbites hit releasing a cloud of freezing gas that acts like an explosion. There is less or no jump if you hit them straight on. sm
Any combination you want you can use with survivalist, he's a bootleg medic with heals, swat with armor resistance, demo with cowbell... Why don't you try being a full medic demo hybrid... Medic assault+RPG, medic shotgun+m16grenade, medic railgun+hmtech grenade pistol... Or you even can do medic assaultgrenade+double barrel.... Really, just take your pick
Statement: I actually use the 9mm quite frequently. Often I'll start a game as a SWAT so I get free full armor and dual 9mm + dmg increase on knife and 9mm. For the first few waves it's really nice having the dual 9mm and if you find an ammo box you actually get 30 rounds instead of just 15. I sell it later when I have a meta loadout, but if you upgrade them they're still pretty respectable weapons with no real recoil. I've decapped scrakes with dual 9mm upgraded. Not ideal, obviously, but I happened to be nearly out of primary ammo and was surprised it worked that well.
@@hk-4714 Upgrade them once on commando with fallback, and it is the equivalent of a varmint rifle, but you can get away with tac reload, bloats die super fast, and you can keep a backup 50 mag varmint with faster reload and hollow point rounds.
@@immortalnub Commentary: Well the other pleasant aspect to it is that 9mm ammo is the cheapest (I think) of all of them. So leaning heavily on the 9mm for the first few waves usually allows me to get meta loadouts in very short order. YMMV, but I think the 9mm is pretty underrated most of the time.
@@immortalnub Statement: I nearly always buy a med pistol, except when I play SWAT or Commando in which case I buy the med SMG or assault rifle usually. On pub matches at least. I'm frequently the top healer no matter which class I play. I wish more ppl did that, especially when I play as berzerker and get zero heals.
Depends on what a freeze perk would be capable of. Maybe freeze lasts longer and afterwards shatters dealing aoe damage to enemies? Idk could be interesting to see a new perk. Wont happen though xD
ya know when you think about it don't you think survivalists would of been better perk if he specialized in ice weapon i really think that since their two ice weapon already why not make major update to survivalist and make him ice perk make sense since you know he's a survivalist then can adapt to the wild would love the the perk since he not that powerful in anything. but still a fun class
Depends on how you define "fun." If you're casual, then absolutely. If you're elite, you will want to find a CD group and avoid the steam forums like the black plague.
ImmortaINub thx just bought it last night and played for 4 hours and I’m loving it just gotta get used to the perks and weapons don’t know what the best class yet
Any weapon you got as first, then buy M79 and use those two. Then RPG and if you can then killerwatt or the grenade launcher for 2000 bucks. Yes, that one.
You know what. It's hard to put "stun" in a FPS game because why bother stunning something when you can kill it? The ice grenade from SS is different from a weapon, cuz the grenade have the objective of locking stuff so you can head shot it, but a weapon with stun doesn't add too much, unless you freeze shit and change weapon to kill but, as i said, why even bother when you can kill them?
again recommending to simulate TF2 PYRO as challenge using ONLY flametrower with damage and burning skills (no ground fire) and the fire axe. :P yes caulk and burn is allowed since its basicly a mini flametrower also have you see the game GTFO? maybe thats up in your alley? you might like it maybe?
all jokes aside, playing on console public matches is pain because most people i get put with are absolute garbage, so the difficulty scaling of multiplayer makes it too difficult to carry so much, so i dont have many oppurtunities to win matches with the survivalist, just gotta play those damages.
My strategy for survivalist is to pick any other class. Seriously, I want the survivalist to be good, but it just isn't. The numbers aren't there. Nothing against anyone who does play survivalist, btw.
Cryomancer perk :
Stat Bonuses :
+1 second freeze duration per 5 levels
+1% Damage to frozen targets per level
+0.8% Reload speed per level
+3% Fire resistance per level, starting with 25%
XP targets :
Freezing zeds with perk weapons
Killing frozen zeds with any weapons
Skills
Tier1(Ammo)
Deep freeze : +3s Freeze duration
Nitrogen compressor : +30% reserve ammo
Tier 2(Support skills)
Shatter : +20% damage to frozen targets
Absolute zero : Increase weapon effectiveness by 25%, freezing targets faster with less ammo
Tier 3 (Offense skills)
Rigid cold : Frozen targets have 50% chance to explode upon death
Blistering cold : Inflicts damage over time to frozen targets
Tier 4(Wild cards)
Cone of cold : Increase freeze weapon AoE by 50%
Yeti hunter : Increase freeze duration for Fleshpound and Scrake by 5s
Tier 5(Zed time)
Zed time - Blizzard : During Zed time, freezing a zed creates up to 5 icy storms that freeze and damage nearby enemy. Perk weapons freeze targets instantly
Zed time - Avalanche : During Zed time perk weapons gain infinite ammo, fire in real time, freeze targets instantly
I know that chance of perk such as this being added is very unlikely but it's fun to think about it lol
Actually sounds sick honestly :O
@Coaldrop Yeah. What I thought of was sort of "Early Access/beta" build of the perk that are destined for nerf.
sounds anazing although I'd get rid of fire resistance as fire melts ice haha
@@xGiUsAx The problem is, no Zeds in this game inflict ice damage lol
EDIT : Unless they make an elite version of Husk that does it
Ice, Ice Baby.
Ice has one benefit; Nothing in the game resists it, so it does flat damage across all zeds. If anything, that should've been Survivalists main play style; Focus on freeze damage.
"Getting my flesh pounded" -Pathfinder
Lube up!
4:55
I pick LLLLL survivalist when I find that my team has a bunch of chaotic perks, but 1 or 2 precision perks. The issue being is that the precision perks are not very effective in environments of high chaos, so I grab a freezethrower to counter it a bit.
A single upgrade in freezethrower will raise beam damage by 40%, and shards by 15%. The first upgrade lets me kill trash with the beam much faster so I can dip sooner and not generate too much chaos via aggro. The upgrade also saves you an alt fire when performing 6p HoE executions. However, due to the lack of range and time it takes to perform the execution, I have to clear out the other trash first.
It is worth noting that you almost never have to reload freezethrower outside of zed time if you utilize the post fire mechanic.
With 7 slots left, I focus on trash killing weapons that generate a minimal amount of chaos.
Centerfire/500 Magnum: Pre-damage/Riot killer
Winchester/M1911/Deagle/101: Trash killers
Now of course, there are many potential loadouts for surv, but as long as you have freezethrower or killerwatt for large zeds, and are able to switch between precision, neutral, and chaotic playstyles on the fly when killing trash, you should be fine.
Oh, and before I forget: never use the freezethrower's primary fire during zed time, or any beam/spray based weapon when you get full fire rate. For whatever reason, all that happens is that the animation for the beam is sped up, but the rate by which zeds take damage doesn't change. In other words: freezethrower's primary fire is a massive waste of ammo during zed time, and you should just stick to alt fire during that time. Don't forget to reload right before zed time ends to instantly reload.
Interesting. I use LRLRL. LLLLL was superior in original survivalist that had weaker skills. The only skill really matters for survivalist in his entire tree is 3rd skill and that's because extra weight allows him to upgrade weapons to offset his poor damage values.
The general formula for survivalist is 1 trash killing weapon+1 big zed weapon.
In term of the best low-cost weapon that does everything for survivalist in early game is crossbow. The reason being is that it deals enough damage to either 1 shot or 2 shots just about every trash zed in the game, 1 shot just about any medium zed in the game and it's damage type is almost able to even takedown scrakes in some cases along with having very high ammo efficient from picking bolts.
I would say top 3 weapons for trash killing for survivalist is
1- Hng Nailgun(Swat), 2- M14 combat rifle(Support),M1911(Demo assault rifle)
I would say top 3 "big zed killers" for survivalist would be
1- Railgun/HRG Incision, 2- Kilowatt, 3 RPG
If you had unlimited money, the best loadout would be AA-12+M79 Grenade launcher as you would be able kill all trash+scrakes with AA-12 and FP+all trash but you would never be able sustain this cost in normal game because ammo costs would be insane. Freezethrower is good cost-efficient ammo weapon that can be used as trash killing weapon with primary fire and medium zed with alternate fire, but it's just often not worth freezing zeds over just doing raw focus fire to takedown big zeds. If they ever want that to be a role for survivalist, they should make a tier 5 freeze weapon for survivalist called freeze ray for freezing raged big zeds.
Use the mosin nagant with berserker
does it get melee bonuses ?
@@icata12345 I don't know you can parry with it so probably
I think we need a Trench gun 1893 with bayonet version.
The 'Frosty the Snowman' build
Hiya Pathfinder, I just wanted to say thank you for making these videos. They're always entertaining to watch and make me want to play some more KF2.
Sorry for the late reply, youtube is a real ass nowadays, glad you enjoy the stuff man :D
Enraged Quarterpounds: Raging.
Icebug: Chill down!
Duality:
Spitfires and winter whatnot on slinger. +3 the spitfures, +2 the winter boys.
Any zed ever - The ice bug doesn't exist it can't hurt you. "Alright everybody ice bug finder here"
Another special thing about freezethrower, it shoots 12 pellets, other shotguns shoot maximum 10 pellets per shot, it's also has penetration power of 4, while no onter shotguns for 1100 cost or even more expensive shotguns have that much penetration, vlad 1000 have penetration power of 3, doomstick has power of 5, any other shotguns have penetration power of 2.
8.01 he sounded like my phone on the desk :D
Lately my favorite survivalist loadout has been Hemocobbler+Doomstick with heavy weapons, melee expert, med grenades, and zedsplosion.
Also Mosin Nagant+Dragonsbreath+spitfire/M1911 is a fun 'WW1' style loadout with heavy weapons, better healing, med nades and zedsplosion
How many alt fires it take to kill an FP and a scrake with survivalist?
Love the Killerwatt *pew pew pew beeeeeeeam*
Hey, video Idea: Husk cannon on demo, for spamming nukes.
I have been experimenting, an hmtech grenade rifle to poison and get rid of trash and the icethrower to freeze fleshpounds and scrakes, usually for when we train them
Survivalist with Riot Shield and glock18 aiming gives 60%damage reduction on top of 25% from perk and heavy armor on perk as well preventing hp damage before armor is gone. You can drop healing grenades at your feet and face tank so much
11:12
Um... Path? You're aware that zeds have cooldowns for each affliction, right? There is no such thing as an "inconsistent" affliction as it has nothing to do with probability.
Was more so talking for the boss, I know zeds have a couple of seconds of immunity to any kind of affliction. The boss can start an animation right before you want to freeze/stun him so it doesn't work as reliably.
I found that fully upgraded Winterbites can do a heck of a lot of damage. And since they don't have a lot of recoil you can spam them faster. The reason Zeds jump is that when you hit them, the rounds from the Winterbites hit releasing a cloud of freezing gas that acts like an explosion. There is less or no jump if you hit them straight on. sm
now i want icebug perk in the game xD
Me too xD
"What killed the dinosaurs ? The Ice Age !"
Any combination you want you can use with survivalist, he's a bootleg medic with heals, swat with armor resistance, demo with cowbell... Why don't you try being a full medic demo hybrid... Medic assault+RPG, medic shotgun+m16grenade, medic railgun+hmtech grenade pistol... Or you even can do medic assaultgrenade+double barrel.... Really, just take your pick
I was thinking maybe add the compound bow to this build if its even possible? But maybe cryo arrows only
The survivalist with the medic grenade rifle, rpg, and buck shot pistol. You can zone the map and blow stuff up.
Good job PeePee Finder!
Find any paths lately?
Survivalist with Fire Axe + Seeker Six. I heard those are the best weapons in the game.
... what?
Nope, still the worst 😂
The freezethrower alt fire is a beast, only use the spray for crowd control
There is a KF1 custom server with it's own Frostbug perk. Very fun!
Use 9mm on bloats, not med pistol. Bloats don't have a high resistance for 9mm like they do for other weapons.
Statement: I actually use the 9mm quite frequently. Often I'll start a game as a SWAT so I get free full armor and dual 9mm + dmg increase on knife and 9mm. For the first few waves it's really nice having the dual 9mm and if you find an ammo box you actually get 30 rounds instead of just 15. I sell it later when I have a meta loadout, but if you upgrade them they're still pretty respectable weapons with no real recoil.
I've decapped scrakes with dual 9mm upgraded. Not ideal, obviously, but I happened to be nearly out of primary ammo and was surprised it worked that well.
@@hk-4714 Upgrade them once on commando with fallback, and it is the equivalent of a varmint rifle, but you can get away with tac reload, bloats die super fast, and you can keep a backup 50 mag varmint with faster reload and hollow point rounds.
@@immortalnub Commentary: Well the other pleasant aspect to it is that 9mm ammo is the cheapest (I think) of all of them. So leaning heavily on the 9mm for the first few waves usually allows me to get meta loadouts in very short order. YMMV, but I think the 9mm is pretty underrated most of the time.
@@hk-4714 Med pistol is a pit cheaper.
@@immortalnub Statement: I nearly always buy a med pistol, except when I play SWAT or Commando in which case I buy the med SMG or assault rifle usually. On pub matches at least. I'm frequently the top healer no matter which class I play.
I wish more ppl did that, especially when I play as berzerker and get zero heals.
What about a demolitionist or survivalist game where your main weapons are detonatable explosive, like c4 and seal squeal
4:47 - I don't so there is no question how :D
4:10 "He is frozen but not actualy" I like it!
Btw great videos man!!
Edit: I actualy like survivalist but idk what is the point of presige.
Prestige is there just for replayability.
Freeze-based gameplay. "Very cools" increases dramatically.
Depends on what a freeze perk would be capable of. Maybe freeze lasts longer and afterwards shatters dealing aoe damage to enemies? Idk could be interesting to see a new perk. Wont happen though xD
I like to play with the double barrel and either rpg or the eviscetator like the Doom guy
How about a cowboy run? Winchester 1894 + Lemmington 1858 (+ double barrel boomstick if you'd like), with Sharpie/'Slingers, and a cowboy hat ;)
I main Survivalist (only because my Commando, Support, Sharpshooter, and SWAT are stuck at 0)
cowboy sniper, sharpshooter w m99 and a 1876
If you have the money for it. Survivalist is really good on boss waves with an upgraded rpg and railgun
SHARPSHOOTER WITH A one 1858 revolver only?
I'm just playing some stupid fun combos on Solo, like Doublebarrel RPG, Nailguns, all double barrels, Railguns, ....
Do you like Neon Guns? XD
How about playing with all the throwers at once? Freezethrower, Flamethrower, Healthrower....
Do an M14 EBR only challenge on The Descent as a Sharpshooter.
Demo with hammer?
This is great😂
If ya wanna meme with surv just fully upgrade the m79 and spontaneous zed splosion and just have your explosions explode
I wish they added the Orca for demo
ya know when you think about it don't you think survivalists would of been better perk if he specialized in ice weapon i really think that since their two ice weapon already why not make major update to survivalist and make him ice perk make sense since you know he's a survivalist then can adapt to the wild would love the the perk since he not that powerful in anything. but still a fun class
Tripwire don't really put much effort into this game anymore. Can't really expect much to change for the survivalist.
ice is too good do electric surivalist
static strikers + hrg incision
Hello is killing floor 2 worth it? I’m looking for a game that’s fun and has a good community
It's a lot of fun, i recommend it.
Depends on how you define "fun." If you're casual, then absolutely. If you're elite, you will want to find a CD group and avoid the steam forums like the black plague.
ImmortaINub thx just bought it last night and played for 4 hours and I’m loving it just gotta get used to the perks and weapons don’t know what the best class yet
FortNoche demolitionist is a lot of fun
FireFeniX203 alright bet
Any weapon you got as first, then buy M79 and use those two. Then RPG and if you can then killerwatt or the grenade launcher for 2000 bucks. Yes, that one.
M32
"How do u play the survivalist?" Well i dont
Pepeg
Do Survivalist with M99 and Ion Thruster
Do survivalist with microwave gun just cuz I feel like it would be annoying
@@DarkWestern hahahaha
there should be more perks!
I dare you to play on either Normal or Hard BUT only bashing
You know what. It's hard to put "stun" in a FPS game because why bother stunning something when you can kill it? The ice grenade from SS is different from a weapon, cuz the grenade have the objective of locking stuff so you can head shot it, but a weapon with stun doesn't add too much, unless you freeze shit and change weapon to kill but, as i said, why even bother when you can kill them?
Survivalist op
again recommending to simulate TF2 PYRO as challenge
using ONLY flametrower with damage and burning skills (no ground fire) and the fire axe. :P
yes caulk and burn is allowed since its basicly a mini flametrower
also have you see the game GTFO? maybe thats up in your alley? you might like it maybe?
how i play the survivalist; I don’t
all jokes aside, playing on console public matches is pain because most people i get put with are absolute garbage, so the difficulty scaling of multiplayer makes it too difficult to carry so much, so i dont have many oppurtunities to win matches with the survivalist, just gotta play those damages.
lol
Hola path! I'll say hello to you every single time ;) you'll hurt our feelings if you dont say hi!
ebin
What the
My strategy for survivalist is to pick any other class.
Seriously, I want the survivalist to be good, but it just isn't. The numbers aren't there. Nothing against anyone who does play survivalist, btw.