BMW 6HP19 Transmission Service - Prolong Your Transmission's Life (325, 328, 335, 525, 530, 740)
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In this video Gareth Foley will be going through the steps to properly change automatic transmission fluid on a 06 BMW 325xi.
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Should always open the refill plug first
Should be mentioned, not sure why they didn't. I'll give you a thumbs up for visibility.
"Open the refill plug first" -- before what? I'm really not sure what you mean
@@TSPhotoAtlanta before you open the drain plug
Probably so you can make sure you're going to be able to refill it before starting The drain procedure
Quick tip, for the 6 speed There's another fill plug on the driver side of the transmission housing, towards the rear
Much much easier to get to and it's far less headache
Technician is very thorough.
On the XI model, it's possible to access the ATF fill hole without removing the transfer box bracket (just remove the exhaust hangers from the transfer case). However, the bracket must be removed in order to replace the mechatronic sealing sleeve. The transfer case support bracket is such a pain to remove because, in order to do that, the exhaust must be first disconnected and let dangling (fighting the rusted nuts!), then the aluminum heat shield must be removed, only to expose the long bolt/nut that holds the bracket to the transmission rubber mount. So when you drain-refill ATF, you might as well replace the mechatronic sealing sleeve and replace transfer case oil at the same time because the transfer case fill hole is also blocked by the same transfer case support bracket.
Great Comment! Thank you! There's almost NOTHING on X drive Trans fluid or Mechatronics work. It's Not a plastic pan like all of the others which is frustrating when you need to do any work on it.
I really appreciate this because I could not for the life of me figure out where the fill plug is. There is a plug on the left side rear of the transmission adjacent to the front drive shaft connection the xfer case, so I thought the drive shaft needed to come off, and I think some people have been using this for the fill plug. The Bently manual does say the fill plug for the ZF is on the right, but has no picture as their procedure is for the GM trans. So thanks, I may return my drive shaft bolts now. Having to remove abd replace the drive shaft bolts each successive fill (in a multi drain-fill replacement) would be a hassle and expensive as they are one time use bolts. The only thing not clear from your video is if you must remove the xfer case bracket. You discussed putting it back on but not taking it off in the first place. Thank you!
You're welcome Rick! Glad the video helped out.
But wait, then I watched this one a few minutes later where it is back on the left side above the drain hole!!!:
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WTF? Mine is a ZF 6HP19 07 335xi. Going out there now to just drain and refill whatever comes out so will report back.
ZF has line drawings of the different trans but could not tell where the freakin drain hole was. I think they basically don't want laypeople working on their boxes. Either way, really appreciate the video.
So on my vehicle the fill is in fact on the driver side above the drain, removal of the drive shaft necessary unless you are really into contorsionism. I just did a drain / refill and will drop the pan in a week or so and do the rest. Immediate improvement with only 4+ liters. Must replace the drive shaft one time use bolts 15ft-lb plus 90 degrees. 135k miles.
Just learned this type bolt, torque to a value, then turn 90° is a "stretch" bolt
The guy in the back packing boxes and throwing them in the bin for next days shipment.
MAN!! That was my valve cover bro.. you cracked it!! 😂
Ironically, this is almost the exact model I have. Mine was just built in '05. Perfect though. Thank!
Why not save the customer the headache and do the Megatronic bridge seal and the 4 sleeves. And solenoids
Amen to that!
Because the customer may not want to pay for that service
All the solenoids alone is 350
I'm not going to use a laptop, how long does it typically take for gearbox fluid to reach temp? Also I saw somewhere else operating temp is between 80-100 degrees F?
Bump
Excellent video, very well put together.
Do you have to relearn or reset the transmission after fluid and filter?
No
For the last fill do you need to have the car running or just until it gets warm enough for the new fluid?
Car MUST be running, otherwise fluid will drain from the torque converter, and you will be about 2L low after refilling.
@@thomasstiglich3484 Thanks, wondered about why it should be running
So when you refill a car going to be on, this is my first time now I got a bunch of calls when I change the pan
If you don’t have access to inpa, can you use a temp gun and point towards plastic pan? Also maybe try and hit the flow of fluid draining out? I know it will not be as accurate as software digital reading.. but in a pinch will it be ok?
Also.. to get the vehicle at operating temp 30-50 Celsius do you have to drop the car off jack stands are drive around..? I’d be scared to drive around with low fluid..?
I can be completely wrong but I’ve heard idling does not warm the transmission..?
To the crew at FCP Euro, have you encountered any complaints from customers with E90 ZF transmissions regarding jerking/jolting in these cars from the transmission? I’ve read this issue can be due to bad solenoids, sealing sleeves, etc. Thank you in advance!
Hello Adan, we haven't heard of many issues in regards to jerking or jolting of the ZF 6-Speed trans. They're are some issues with bad solenoids or sealing sleeves with high mileage vehicles. We recommend a transmission drain and fill service for transmission longevity and to smooth out the shifts. The ZF trans is a well made unit and doesn't have many issues.
my 2007 bmw 328i with 129k miles got code 578E says “gearbox oil wear” so is that mean i should drain and fill my transmission fluid?
please your advice sir,bcs some mechanic told me to not/never change the liquid.
He says you need to remove the valve body( mechatronics unit) off to replace the sleeve. You do not have too.
How many liters fluid did the transmission needed?
Where can you find that fill plug without having to order online? I'm having a heck of a time trying to find it.
How many quarts or liters go into the
Transmission?
That change oil in converter too or we need to do special thing to drain and fill out the converter
Hi man my dads 2013 vw phaeton 3.0 fsi also has zf6hp19 on it. Currently the car needs a service, local dealer says it should be used zf8hp oil not 6hp one. Do I take dealer advice or I go for 6hp oil? I’m confused. Thanks in advance!
In regards to running the car. I will have the front wheels on Rhino Ramps and the rear will be supported by jack stands on the stand holders on the frame/rocker panels. The rear wheels will be off the ground. Can't I run and shift it like that..I won't be under the car when running. The rear wheels should just slowly spin in air..won't this work? Thanks
Do you happen to have a DIY for replacing the sealing sleeve you mentioned? Thank you for the video also!
Unfortunately we don't have a diy video for the sealing sleeve at the moment.
FCP Euro are you guys going to make a video on that my car has 74k miles and I’m not sure how to do it properly yet
Could you do one on a 2008 BMW and 54 automatic transmission
When dose it stop kicking back a gear ?
I have a 08 e92 335i auto with e gear fault. 5-6 slips under boost. Is it worth or possible to rebuild or should I pick another trans. My car just hit 100k? I really need some input.
Clutch e fault*
Same here with 325i did you get this resolved brother?
how many bottles this car needed?
Was his transmission sump leaking?
How long does it take for water to damage the transmission
Thanks for all the great videos. Do you know if an Autel 906BT can code replacement transmission solenoids on a 2012 335i?
Fcp I have an 08 335xi . It seems like the pan filter is leaking trans fluid . I don’t know if this procedure was ever done to the car . The car has 103k miles on it . Is it safe to do this exact same procedure on it ?
Hi Mauricio, I would definitely have it serviced if it hasn't been done before!
Fcp I have a 2011 328i drive any recommendations on where I can get this done professionally like how this guy did it ? NYC/ CT area
You might want to give European Specialists in Branford, CT a try. Very professional and they do great work.
Do it yourself smh
I have a 2011 328i base model with 102k on it been thinking of having my transmission fluid drained and new fluid put back in and the filter changed should I do it? Or will it cause problems or slipping a few months down the road?
It can't hurt. As long as you follow the drain and fill procedure and perform the final fill in the operating temperature range there is no downside to doing the service. The reason for the drain and fill and not flushing the entire system with a machine is the machine can remove all wear material from the transmission which will cause the transmission to start slipping. Automatic transmission use wet clutches to engage and disengage gears. The wear material in the fluid and in the clutches helps engage these clutch packs.
Question I change transmission oil everything the same way after put back together whatever the car ran good and all of a sudden is slip gears so that you something wrong or what was the reason for it doing that you can please let me know thank u...
I would check your fluid level and make sure it is correct. If it is low on fluid, that could be the problem.
Hi! I don't have access to diag software to measure the fluid temperature. Do you know roughly how long it takes for transmission fluid to warm up during idle?
Hi Anoop, that will all depend on the environment you are working in, there is no real way to tell the speed of it. As a very last case resort, you can use a temp gun to try and get a reading off the transmission pan.
Hey guys: for the zf 6HP19X transmission on an drive BMW, there is also what looks like a fill plug on the left hand side, near the rear of the transmission but behind the front axle that comes off of the transfer case. Is this in fact a fill plug also, or is it something else? Because it seems easier to remove the for E12 bolts holding that small axle to the transfer case and moving it out of the way - then that other fill plug can be accessed easily with a normal allen key socket.
What do you think?
The plug you're referring to is not a fill plug and is slightly higher on the transmission housing than the actual fill plug on the right side under the mechatronic sealing sleeve. The issue with using the plug in question over the actual fill plug is you run the risk of overfilling the transmission due to the fact that it's slightly higher. The worst thing you can do with an automatic transmission is to get the fill level incorrect. We only recommend filling and checking the fluid level in the service via the actual fill plug.
@@fcpeuro How is the bracket removed ?
So I need a shift sensor for a ‘03 BMW 325i. I’m trying to buy this off fb marketplace and that’s the only issue. So if I buy this part can I do it there and drive is home or should I trailer it?
Sure, Niko! If that solves the problem I don't see why you couldn't drive it home! However, its probably a good ideas to have a trailer at least lined up just in case.
FCP Euro I email you guys and Kevin helped me out. I just wanna double check if the shift sensor he linked me was the right one because, well I don’t wanna spend $75 on a part I don’t need. (Part #: 24337504753)
I have 165k miles on my e90 n52 automatic. As far as I know fluid has never been changed. Should i even consider doing a fluid change or is it to late in my case? Was also thinking I could just top off the fluid from the fill plug and not do the fluid change. Any thoughts would be appreciated
If it's just a basic drain and fill you'll be fine and that would still be recommended. I would avoid flushing fluid out of the torque converter as that could cause clogging of the valve body.
How do I id which trans my 2011 335i E93 has? I believe i've got this much, GA6HP-19Z, but what about the solenoids? I've seen some with 7 and some with 8. How do I find that out, short of taking it out before ordering the correct set?
We'd be happy to help, please email your VIN number to service@fcpeuro.com
I have a transmission whine & weird shifting what could be the issue?
Most likely the transmission pressure solenoids and valve seals need to be replaced.
I have a 2007 530ix and the transmission flutters or seems like it slips when accelerating.... what is my problem?
Hi Mark, your problem could be as simple as your transmission being overdue for some new fluid and a filter but we recommend trying to get it diagnosed before buying new parts. We recommend finding a shop local to you to help you properly diagnose the car then heading back to us when it's time to buy new parts. Hope that helps!
Just got an 08 528xi with the same exact issue, did you figure it out? Im too lazy to take it to a decent shop to get some diag
Hey won't the new fluid act as a detergent and loosen up the particles that was in the transmission and cause it to slip ? I heard that this can happen. Not sure if i should go through with the drain and fill procedure. Also for a high Km car, What do you think ?
Hello Jameer, a basic drain and fill shouldn't cause an issue. You'll want to avoid having the torque converter flushed out because that could loosen up particles and clog channels within the valve body. We recommend basic drain and fills at 50-60k intervals.
I realize I'm replying 5 years later, but for others wondering about this, the answer is no.
Changing transmission fluid is always a good thing. If there were any "particles" the detergents would "loosen up" they would be captured by the transmission filter. Think of the logic behind that superstition, is dirty fluid what's holding your transmission together?
I think that rumor was started by people whose transmission was beginning to fail, and they changed the fluid, but the tranny still failed. So they blamed the fluid change, which is illogical.
It's a superstition as false as the one about batteries on a cement floor will somehow be "shorted" and lose voltage.
Can you use this oil on a B7 A4 with the same transmission?
why do you guys sell these parts but do an incomplete videos , why not the sleeves ? pelican parts at least have the steps on their website !
Any good shops for this service in Miami?
How many liters I need on a 2010 BMW 528i Transmission fluid?
Approximately how much transmission fluid needs for refill?
The factory fluid capacity is 9 liters. One drain gets 5.5 liters out, so you'll get close to 60% new fluid on one drain and refill.
so what transmission does a 2009 bmw 328xi have? is it the gm 6l50?
You have to look and see. BMW will use different trans in the same model.
At minute 2:50 the rear transmission mount bracket is on....⚡poof⚡....2:57 the rear transmission mount bracket is off and a screw jack put in place. No acknowledgement until 9:25🤷♂
I have a 2009 bmw 335i with 53k miles when do recomend I change the transmission fluid?
Hi Roberto, now would be a perfect time to replace the fluid. Generally, every 50k miles is a good time to do it. We have preassembled kits currently on our website. If you want to verify fitment, feel free to email service@fcpeuro.com
@@fcpeuro awesome, thank you!
@@roberto0612fcb You're welcome!
That change oil in converter too or we need to do special thing to drain and fill out the converter?
u guys rock
I have a 2006 325i and whenever I shift from P to R or R to P or N to R, it jerks the car back and forth. It doesn't have any problems shifting while driving. It might have a tiny problem while driving but not as noticeable as when the car is stationary. I took it to a BMW dealer and they said that the mechatronics sleeve needs to be replaced. Will this fix the issue ?
Hello Ridwan, It does sound like its definitely an issue linked to the mechatronics. I'm sure replacing the sleeve will most likely resolve the problem.
Im having the same issue with a BMW 328i 2009... Just got the car with 118k miles. What should i do and how do i fix it?
Sourabh Sharma I am going to replace the mechatronics sleeve on my trany. I'll let you know if that solves the problem.
Perfect! Thank you. I will take it to a few shops in my area to see what they say. Also, did your dealership charge you to check the car?
Sourabh Sharma they charged me 179 to do the diagnosis. I am going to fix it at a shop near me since it's way cheaper. If that doesn't solve it, I am going to ask BMW to do another diagnostic.
I have a 2008 320d with a 6 speed auto transmission do you know the capacity
You have a GA6HP19Z transmission-> Refill with 4-6 Liters ZF Automatic Transmission Fluid - 6 speed - M-1375.4.
Check out the official ZF video
ua-cam.com/video/ZRrgmfM8VlQ/v-deo.html
AND
ZF website PDF:
tecapp.tecalliance.net/api/TRW/en/media/tecdoc/document/564045176881920/0068001_MH50145.PDF?X-TecApp-Product=TRW
What is the torque spec for the bolts FT-LB ?
7.3lb
Why do y’all always cut out the struggle? I want to see how to remove the bracket.
How much is it typically to get this done ?
Hello Anthony, a shop will typically charge $600 for parts and labor to complete this service. The kit is available on our site for $358.99
www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-auto-trans-service-kit-ga6hp19z-24152333907kt1
So, is lifeguard 6 ok to use on 19z tranny?
Hi Carlos, if you select your model on FCPEuro.com, you can see the appropriate fluids for your vehicle's transmission that we offer!
Do you sell tranny fill kits with the pan,bolts,filter and fluid with the lifetime warranty
Hello Eddie, we have complete kits available on our site and everything we have listed comes with our Lifetime Warranty.
www.fcpeuro.com/BMW-parts/328i/Automatic-Transmission/?year=2008&m=20&e=2053
How do I get a INPA software?
It seems this is not actually a flush, this is just drain and refill?
This does not look anything like the flush procedure I recently had on my 335i, where they used about 16 liters of oil to completely flush out all the old and nasty oil from the transmission.
My e92 335i now shifts as smoothly as when it was new.
The safest way to service a 6HP transmission is a drain and fill service. This is as recommended by ZF. We just updated the title as it's not the correct description for the procedure. You can do multiple drain and fill procedures to clean all the old fluid out but it's not entirely necessary or recommended as wear material in the fluid is needed to allow for proper engagement of the clutches inside the transmission (wet clutches). It is not advised to use a flush machine seen at transmission shops on one of these transmission.
This was done at a BMW dealer in Germany. It shifts nicely when doing high speed blasts on the Autobahn, and that is with an ESS stage 2 ECU tune, pushing 150nm more than normal (550nm rather than 400nm).
No hint of slippage or other problems.
Before the flush it shifted hard and made some clunking noises, especially in normal Drive mode.
From my perspective, the flush they did made the transmission feel like new (they also changed mech sealing sleeve and solenoids).
I do believe that it was the new solenoids that made the whole difference. Did they just replace the solenoids or they actually re-built the valve body?
schwitzt auch gut junge 👍
I wish that right from the outset you would announce the year of the car you're working on!
2006 he litterally says it in the first sentence
is there a way I can check the fluid level?
Looks up the
bmw procedure sealed transmission pan level check
Get the boss to purchase a proper drain catch bucket..a big wide one...what a mess😆
ehh... I feel you shouldn't have sped up the video. He was saying stuffs and these can be informative... let the viewer decide
Aren’t you suppose to do a cross cross pattern? You went in like a line, lol. Straight back from whatever you were lining. If that makes sense..? Lol
didnt bmw said the transmission fluid was lifetime?
Lifetime fill as described by BMW is 100K miles which is good enough for the extended warranty time frame. Many vehicles will go past 100K miles before they are scrapped to the salvage yard. Additionally, ZF has a prescribed service interval of the 6HP transmissions (the transmission in many BMW's between 2006-20102) of 8 years or 50K miles. This is a much more realistic service interval vs the non interval provided by BMW.
Oh, thank you for explaining ! I got a 06 330 x drive last week it gots 80k miles i guess i should not be too worried about the oil change? Love your channel Btw ! you helped me alot with my other cars :)
10 nwt/m = 7.36 lbs/ft
why are you replacing the oil pan ?
The oil pan has an integrated filter. It's recommended to change the pan whenever you perform a fluid change.
Bring back the manual!
Hi FCP Euro,
I gave a call to ZF this afternoon, they told me the fill/ over flow plug is located at the left side close to transfer case. Also, please take a look at the video from ZF below:
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To me, I think it's pretty clear you were filling the fluid from a plug not be designated for this purpose. Further, did you guy perform this procedure on a xDrive model, and do I have to remove the front drive shaft on the left side of transmission? Thanks!
This video is filmed on an xDrive vehicle. The ZF video on the other hand depicts the fill procedure for a 6HP rear wheel drive transmission, not a 6HPX transmission designed for an all wheel drive vehicle with a transfer case. On a BMW xDrive vehicle there is a drive shaft located on the left side of the transmission tunnel which runs from the output flange on the front of the transfer case to the front of differential. While there is a plug on the side of the transmission there is absolutely no way to access it without removing the drive shaft which is not necessary.
There is a second plug located near the back of the transmission (which is easily accessible) and is intended to be used specifically for checking the fluid fill/level of the transmission. The procedure for a drain and fill operation is written this way for xDrive equipped vehicles and this information is reflected as such in the official BMW TIS repair manual which you can see via the link below:
www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/e90-325xi-lim/repair-manuals/24-automatic-transmission/24-00-automatic-transmission/PFL7eb8
The maintenance routine for xDrive vehicles in this case was performed 100% as required by both BMW and ZF. For a rear wheel drive vehicle would be performed as ZF does in their video. To this date we have performed this procedure as written by BMW on numerous xDrive vehicles. The fill going in always matches the quantity that has been removed.
Appreciated! So helpful! Looks ZF provides a good alternative for xDrive model.
@@fcpeuro i am confused. the ZF video this gentleman referred to appears to be done on an X drive vehicle with transfer case visible and the front drive shaft disconnected and pulled off to the side to access the left fill hole. are these two holes at the same level and can either one be used on an X-drive car. i get a feeling that for rear wheel drive the left side hole is easily accessible, and for the X drive, they might have added the secondary right hand side fill hole to avoid having to remove the drive shaft for maintenance of transmission fluid.
REDO THE VIDEO...
NOT OK TO PUT OUT MISSING INFORMATION
Ooops no happy ending lol
zftml11 specifications
haha 15:17 Cooler Typ
there's no problem with re-using them whatsoever, no recommendation from anyone to replace, screws with a blue paint spot yes these, nope
I'm like #666. What does that tell you?
Refill at 30-40 degrees, not 30-50 degrees! Do not to over tighten the bolts on valvebody, you needs a TORQUE WRENCH.
Daniel, per ZF the final fill must be made between 30 and 35 degress C. If you wait to long and the transmission is over 50 you must wait until the temperature cools back down which is why 50 degress C is mentioned. The purpose of checking Mechatronic bolts is to make sure they have not loosened up which is known to happen. They are not being torqued in this procedure at all. With a quarter inch ratchet with light pressure you can easily tell if a bolt is tight or has loosened up. It's an extra step to ensure the seal between the valve body and sealing sleeves is tight. A loose valve body can cause poor shifting as pressure from the valve body is not reaching the clutch packs.
You should do another video with those things you just mention.