George Yeo on China’s Century of Humiliation
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2021
- An excerpt from George Yeo’s interview with Kishore Mahbubani in US-China Relations: Past, Present and Future, a MOOC on the edX platform.
In this excerpt, George Yeo talks about how China managed to be weakened and humiliated by so strongly by Western powers during its Century of Humiliation.
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Nice to see George Yeo sharing his views. Full interview please.
Now china turn to humiliated south east Asia countries???????
They should do it to the west.
Only know ,to bully small states.
" Mistakes have the power to turn you into something better than you were before" and life's greatest lessons are usually learnt at the worst times and from the worst mistakes.
Agree. This is considered the greatest mistake by China. It's great that they know the importance of keeping up with times.
@@alantan9863 Unfortunately mistakes in the Chinese government leads to more mistakes down the timeline. China will never go anywhere till they have democracy and freedoms.
Yup, when u r weak, the vultures gather. Great to have an alternative perspective from independent thinker George Yeo.
@Dan2314 Wonderluck and then they smell your man pong and say no thanks, I'm going to try that garbage bin for leftovers.
Mind twister- Now is time for china to attack and kill
George Yeo fully understands that the Han Chinese despised the ruling Manchus. The Manchus routinely humiliated the Chinese. This led to an inferiority complex that led to opium and reluctant to fight the foreigners for the Manchu emperor. In fact the Chinese people welcome the foreigners because they believe they would get help to overthrow the hated Manchus. The century of humiliation was for the Manchus and not the Han Chinese
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The Han Chinese hated the oppression and subjugation coming from all foreigners.
They pitted one group of foreigner against the other to buy time for herself to takeover China for herself.
@@mindtwister1984 The Han Chinese hated the Manchus more than the western powers.The western powers exploited this divide. Eventually the Manchu emperor became a puppet of the western powers. The Manchus like the ottomans should have realized their empire was too big and broken it up along ethnic lines earlier and form a Chinese Union base on the EU.
The country and central govt was too weak then. CHINA always need a strong central govt. It is a tradition.
No weaker than it ever was. Mongols, Turks, Manchurians, Japanese, none of them eve faced resistance,
@Majulah Cecapura Corruption, overpopulation and huge draining of govt revenue due to the three wars in the late Qianlong era has already weaken the empire. Seeds already been sold.
After that the relative peace has further degrade the Manchu warriors who used to be the core of the empire's military force. A sword not used for too long got rotten. And the bureaucracy been infested with widespread corruption.
And the Opium war was just almost 80-100 years after the Qianlong period. Suffice to say that China already in decline after the Qianlong period.
Caste system？there maybe a bit in early Qing period but most of the time the most respected/trusted officials by the Qing emperors were the Han Chinese but not the Manchu, all people of different ethnicities work together. There was never a caste system such as those in India.
And on the other hand, the most extreme hardcore reactionary and anti westernization or anti reform officials, some of them were the Manchu officials not the Han Chinese.
If the govt was strong and society relatively free of problems, there won't be the Taiping rebellion, which shocked the empire to the core and need to rely on provincial military forces.
Qing period China is a hybrid of multi ethnicities coexistence and that kept the Qing empire strong for a relatively long period of time over a vast landscape.
Read and study more, one needs to read history in a bit more details, not just claiming ' China has the biggest bureaucracy in the world also the strongest centralized governance' and take it as face value.
You are the one who just got things wrong from the start as you didnt even get the basic facts right. Every student or scholar with a little knowledge of modern Chinese history will know all these facts
And you must be joking by saying the Qing empire was strong during the opium war and afterwards. The Qing was defeated by ard 20,000 foreign forces mainly westen armies, and needed to leave Beijing.
So much about 'strong centralized governance'. Then what? Defeated by a 20000 people army and need to run away？
Its the same as saying that Iraq has a strong government yet it has been defeated one sided by the US army, in a very very short period of time.
You should go back to school if you wish to learn more.
china only knows how to remember the bad things and plan revenge when the time comes.
Divide and interfere (external interested party taking side leading to corruption, bribery, arms conflict and civil war; one party declared illegal, illegitimate or being labeled terrorist). You see this taking place in Africa and South America.
The Colonialist aggressors who had caused destruction and suffering are now feeling the heat, offering insincere apologies. This is only when they felt lost out when China decided to help these nations with economic aid and development and could see the tangible result.
I can't see any tangible result. The corruption continues, even gets worse. The CCP have no problems dealing with corrupt dictators, so the people in general suffer. Look at the breakdown of South Africa, for instance. The examples you say to look at- Africa and South America- are hopeless cases which never seem to get better. Socialism, socialistic and communistic leaning governments are ruining these places, and CCP support is keeping corrupt rulers in position. This will not age well.
The issue with the BRI is it centres on loans to poor countries. Countries like the US and Australia provide aid.
@@petersinclair3997 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@petersinclair3997 "Aid" a well coined term for saying "Hey I am providing you help but in exchange you have to give me your resources and listen to my command.. Good Dog!"
@@petersinclair3997what kind of aid? Please be specific. Lip service doesn’t count.
Westerners incl USA never would allow China to be peaceful and prosperity for her Chinese/minorities citizens. They till wish Chinese disunite and fight each other esp. keep on instigate Taiwan to become independent.
Taiwan should be allowed to decide for itself. Just leave it alone. China should respect Taiwan's will, instead of trying to deflect and blame everything on the West.
What US wants to China is what they did to USSR. They want to break up China by starting with HK, Taiwan, and Xinjiang. - Especially Xinjiang, China's Belt & Road Initiative relies heavily on Xinjiang as it's the crossroads to the EU, and Middle East.
Think of it this way: If China wants to break up the USA by stirring up shit in some US states, do you think US will allow that?
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Taiwan's will is to rule all of China as ROC. It is the same as Beijing's will.
It is a fair game. Don't play victim card here.
@@sabinereynaudsf taiwan politician alter their history to cut ties with the mainland. Future generations will have lesser ties with mainland, even though they use the same language and share same culture.
That is the power of education.
Actually the seed is sown since Taiwan was cut out from China during the century of humiliation.
Taiwan speration from the mainland is like a second round of century of humiliation to China. I believe that is the reason why mainland will not allow it to happen.
@@sabinereynaudsf Taiwan is a province of China like Hainan island. The Kuomingtang nationalists escaped to Taiwan when chased by the Communists who won the civil war. The Communists let them be in that province but it doesn't mean it belongs to the Kuomingtang.
This interview is from Kishore's eDX course. Proud to say I paid for the VIP course!
china only knows how to remember the bad things and plan revenge when the time comes.
Bravo. No victim card here. He ask the most important question which is "what was our role in the century of humiliation". So we can really make sure, it never happen again.
I think that's a great question to ask oneself. The US should ask themselves that.
Timestamp? I didn't noticed anywhere.
These 2 distinctive gentlemen are priceless to Singapore. Wish they have excellent health and happines always.
I am Jose Manuel one of your new contacts .Good explanation professor George Yeo
I like to view George Yeo speeches and chats. He is one of the great leader that could lead Singapore to the future but unfortunately he is out of the main stream of chosen politicians. Hopefully we hope to see more of his contributions to Singapore, Asia and the world.
great insights thank you so much!!!
These people from Singapore are decent,understanding and telling truth.
china only knows how to remember the bad things and plan revenge when the time comes.
Outstanding George perspective. Enlightenment and Wisdom in person.
Well said,. George Yeo.
I respect George Yeo a lot.
That is why he got kick out of singapore General election. Now a traitor for china.
Always a joy to hear George Yeo speaking - his brilliance is second to none.
George Yeo is a 50-cent army
china only knows how to remember the bad things and plan revenge when the time comes.
Kishore Mahbabuni has all the answers himself, he's just asking them for the sake of the listener.
Brilliant!
Good discussion
Throughout the history of China, it’s the strongest and most prosperous when the ruler has absolute power. When there’s more than one power, like The 7 Warring States, Han vs Chu, The Three Kingdoms, KMT vs CPC, it was in chaos. China and Singapore found success having a single party. Especially these days, a country with multiparty is vulnerable to instigation by the National Endowment for Democracy (NED).
We were part of the Chu and fought against the Qin, however, some of us have Han blood in us...I believe I have a bit of all. I’d like to visit Asia someday. There’s so much ignorance and hate here in America...I choose not to involve myself in it. It’s good to have faith in the time when you were born but I sometimes think how life would have been different had I been born in Asia. I respect Singapore to the core of my heart, Lee Kuan Yew was a great man and I don’t think he’d be very happy had he seen what has become of today’s world, as with Deng.
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Asia is fascinating, diverse and food is fantastic. Well worth a visit.
Democracy works well in Taiwan
@@Andy-P
It’s economy is deteriorating. Hardship for the people. 20 years ago when I worked there, it was better.
@@Andy-P
The parties in Taiwan fight like mad
Could we have the complete interview please?
One good,wise and honest minister Singaporean should miss. Mr George Yeo.
The meeting of great minds. It will be interesting if both can offer forward views on Singapore 🇸🇬
We lost a great man/mind serving the Singapore Government. Please consider coming back to political arena to guide the “newsters” of their duties MP : as well as a full time lawyer. Either he is “superbly brilliant” or as an MP, is only half occupied, half the workload as required. Then we should half all MPs’ pay.
Mr Yeo is excellent and enjoy listening to him but all the Singaporean Ministers are excellent speakers and very articulate. It started with Mr. Lee KY and they have kept the very high standard he set - its impressive and they could give many world leaders a tip or two!
Where can I find the full interview?
When u r nice and welcome people in your home and took advantage if it.
I wan complete interview please. Tq
George Yeo was in a different state of
thinking to Mahbubani
I’m no Singaporean. But i do know modern Chinese history. And based on just a dozen interviews and articles from George Yeo, he strikes me that he would have made a better informed PM than Lee Jr, at least more informed of the nuances of the Chinese mind and how it’s been shaped by Chinese history.
china only knows how to remember the bad things and plan revenge when the time comes.
The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself. @ Sun Tzu
Excellent account of what china went through and view it past. Thank You
china only knows how to remember the bad things and plan revenge when the time comes.
George Yeo is unique in that v few eng stream educated s'poreans feel for their roots, have passion for & appreciate own culture (of 2 thousand yrs....) LKY was one of these few ..
Birds of the same feathers flock together.
Truth will set us free.
# Opium went in easily with some internal selfish elements caring only for their own pockets. Mao & Xi did the right thing in wiping out corruption as foremost thing.
# Thank u Kishore - leading us to China history much needed by younger generation especially those rioters in H. Kong.
Mao & Xi wiped out corruption? Have you been smoking too much opium? You mean China now has no corruption? Do you mean the baby milk powder didn't have poison in it? The children's vaccines weren't deadly? Buildings don't fall down in Chinese cities due to taofu construction methods? Bridges aren't falling down, dams haven't burst due to the corruption of CCP officials? You are in LaLa land, pal.
Yes. Prof Kishore is a gem to Asia!
@@rikbowers9997 Corruption exists EVERYWHERE ! Unlike the corruption of US that is done in plain sight i.e. lobbyist ... which is much worst
@@rikbowers9997 you must b reading too much msm article
China at that time was busy fighting against one and others and have little time doing R & D.
The biggest problem with the Qing dynasty is that it is a colonial government (Manchu). Therefore, there was discrimination against the Chinese. Furthermore, the government didn’t keep up with technology and didn’t encourage the people to innovate.
GY and KM are both class acts. They are miles ahead of the current 4G leaders who are mediocre and incompetent.
China India conflict is the greatest tragedy of Asia.
Its more of India's inability and living in colonial mindset that does not allow them to rise above the quagmire that they put themselves in ...
Add oil,Mr Yeo and Singapore
china only knows how to remember the bad things and plan revenge when the time comes.
They don’t forget.
china only knows how to remember the bad things and plan revenge when the time comes.
KangXi was the greatest Qing Dynasty Emperor. His grandson QiangLong careless attitude - his love of just enjoying life and apple polishers led to a blind eye over corruption among his officials and holding on power behind the scene for some 20 plus years even though he abdicated & place his son on the throne. This led to internal strive & weaken good governance. Later on Empress Dowager love to hang on to power for her own selfish ego and purposely place kids as Emperors. So there’s no real nation building and it declined. When the Westerners took advantage, initially things are settled with money to pay off. When the Royal coffers are being depleted, they start giving up land, so Hong Kong & Macau were hived off for respective 100 years. So sad. Corruption will weaken anyone, any government and any nation. Bribe takers will undermine justice and morals. This in turn will lead to civil tensions and tear a country apart. Which is why our founding PM Mr Lee Kuan Yew makes it very clear that corruption will not be tolerated. This wisdom is also endowed in President Xi JinPin to stamp out corruption & alleviate poverty.
Well, corruption cannot weaken u if u can print d USD ! America is on God mode. We’re all just peasants.
@@djtan3313 That is the only reason why US is so fearful of China economic rise and trying whatever means to stop it and will start a war if its reserve currency status is at risk.
Mr Lee once made a comment on Chineseness, remarking he was no more Chinese than President Kennedy was Irish. He was a Singaporean. How true. And, Father of Singapore too.
@@nicklee7002 Nick, the USD isn’t at risk, amounting to 88% of international currency trade. (The Yuan, 4%) The Western central banks will protect to the USD.
Agree with your history. Agree with the accomplishments of Lee Kuan Yew. Less sure about General Secretary Xi, who wants to be Leader of Life, from 2022. When Chou En Lai met Richard Nixon, Chou said China would not seek hegemony, if its markets were open to the West, and China grew to be an economic power.
Dear Mr G. YEO SORRY NOT TO HAVE MET YOU UNTIL WHEN YOU CAME TO
TO JION THE KOUK BROTHERS AND MR ROBERT KUOK THE FAMOUS SUGAR KING OF MALAYSIA AND LATER YOU DEVOTED YOUR JOURNEY FOR GOOD OF MANKIND. AND I WISH YOU SUCCESS AND ACHIEVEMENTS SIR AND STAY SAFE AND HEALTHY SIR ALWAYS SIR
the entire history was documented in all its detail, it really is up to people wisdom to understand it for themself
does not mean words comes from an academian or politicians is always wiser than your own thoughts
but something for one to chew on.
Internal weak is not the excuse to justify the colonizer's evil deeds. Everyone has his weak time, shall we take every such opportunity to exploit others? I hate the colonial mindset.
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Talk about the humiliation; current China Armies they willing to die for the country to ease and avoid for another humiliation, the question now is USA willing to sacrifice how many of their army if war broke out (1M???).
If there is to be conflict, i believe it will be a cyber war, no one wins a military conflict, one Nuclear bomb and we are all finished.
Does this gentleman has any book written about China????
What will be the subscriber base for democratic system going forward ? Will China leadership crossover into democratic system when they are readied to lead the world ?
The Chinese are a mature race, they don't bear grudges: in history, in life, things do happen.
Georgie boy aged alot...take care bro
Both well known hard core supporters of PRC..
Both are honest, knowledgeable and truthful philosophers.
Ching dynasty is an ethnic minority to China , when they ruled China , they hv spent most of their time to watch d Han Chinese in d worry of being overwhelmed by d Han Chinese, so lack of nation building n they were incapable to handle many issues n in particular d western countries n d British knew that d smart Han was being overthrown by manchurian or by chin dynasty, so they called Han Chinese as chin in d purpose to humiliate them being overthrown, so at d era of Ching d western bullying China easily, thereof China was very poor n backwards caused by ethnic minority of manchurian, so when Han Chinese regained China of their own since 1949 October until Todate d world could see n d westerners don’t like that how strong China is , u guys don’t really know d exact caused to China , I am in harry to vaccine so I write this rampantly, tq ...
Humiliation from the more advanced civilization was inevitable at that time since Qing dynasty was the repeating version of the previous fallen dynasties in chinese history. We Han people ignored the pursuing of science of the physical world and were intoxicated of the fun of rising and falling dynasties for more than three millennia.
china only knows how to remember the bad things and plan revenge when the time comes.
Never again!
china only knows how to remember the bad things and plan revenge when the time comes.
There are still Vultures in India! 😭😭😭😭
True. Nations fall because of internal rot.
china only knows how to remember the bad things and plan revenge when the time comes.
The decline of Chinese dynasties was that the lack of strong emperors who demanded obedience and the country was strong but it is a cycle which keeps repeating in china where dynasties were lost when strong emperors died and young emperors took over.
As for the Qing , their heyday was during the period where Kang Xi and Qian Long were alive , Japan and Korea were also feudal states.
not due to lack of strong emperors. its due to corruption. the corruption was really bad. basically internal corruption laws were non-existent.
Mr. Yeo is looking at an elephant through a microscope. That may give you excellent detail about the elephant, but it does not help you understand what an elephant is or what it does. For the same reason, we do not need a 200 volume history of the Qing Dynasty to understand the Century of Humiliation, which is extremely important history for understanding China. There are a number of good books in one volume that cover this important period of Chinese history.
The roots of the Century of Humiliation are indeed varied and complex, but they can be boiled down to a few important points: internal social rot, hubris, and failure to modernize and industrialize. When trying to understand complex things, it is best to begin examining using the eyes, not the microscope.
china only knows how to remember the bad things and plan revenge when the time comes.
wow... dude aged a lot
In China's long history spanning over 50 centuries, its century of humiliation is a more recent memory.
This memory is selectively interpreted in ways to nurture its national identity, patriotic fervour and comprehensive national power.
For example, its national anthem was composed and reflects an era when China was invaded and partially occupied by Japan.
This deep sense of shame, loss of face and respect that accompanies the humiliation, is now manifested in assertive behaviour that demands respect from the rest of the world.
The effects of that century still reverberates in contemporary international relations,
when China's civilian and military leaders and diplomats, meet their counterparts, especially behind closed doors.
Yes indeed, but that's every country lol
@@stenyethanmathews945 Really?
The Han undermined the Manchu, that's why
Did he play a lot of golf?
The first time I've heard any CCP propagandist admit that Opium addiction was not introduced by the British. CCP plays out the fiction that the British was responsible for widespread addiction.
Too simple... Sometimes naive!
George Yeo has aged so much since he lost the elections in 2011 and an end to his political career.
"Remember your place in society before you engage in political debate. Debate cannot degenerate into a free-for-all where no distinction is made between the senior and junior party, or what the Hokkiens describe as "boh tua, boh suay". You must make distinctions - what is high, what is low, what is above, what is below - and then within this, we can have a debate, we can have a discussion."
George Yeo
Kishore Mahbabuni has the most intelligent insights into a lot geopolitical topic, not just on China or Asia, bust also the west Country.
It shoud happen again.
George Yeo is right that the decline of China started way before the end of the 19th Century. The prosperity during the reign of Emperor Qian Long was merely outward as the dynasty was already rotten to its core. Nevertheless, the well known corruption during the reign of Emperor Qian Long was merely the symptom of China's stagnation and backwardness and not its cause. In my view, there are two very important factors that contributed to the stagnation and decline of China that have not been sufficiently discussed. The first important factor is the Confucianist school of thought known as the the Cheng & Zhu Rational School of Thoughts (程朱理学) and because the leading scholars propounded this school of thoughts were from the Song and Ming dynasties, it is also known as the Song & Ming Rational School of Thoughts (宋明理学). At the time when the minds of the Europeans were being freed by the Renaissance and the Protestant Reformation, enabling the Europeans to come out of the dark ages to enter into an age of enlightenment, the Chinese minds were being bound by the Rational School of Thoughts, causing them to insist on following strictly the rules and the precepts of their forebears. The result of stagnation and decline. The second factor is the nature of the Qing Dynasty. Being originally a nomadic tribe and minority ethnic group with just a few million people, it would be impossible for the Manchus to rule over China without the support of the Han Chinese. And with the Confucianist emphasis on the difference between the "Chinese" and the barbarians, how then could a Manchurian Dynasty be seen as legitimate? The only way must be for the Manchus to be seen not just as Chinese, but to be even more Chinese as the Han Chinese. Hence, the Manchu regimes embraced wholeheartedly confucianism and made it not just the ruling philosophy, but promoted it as the only way to advance in government career. With the overwhelming emphasis on the humanities subjects of Confucianism, an inevitable outcome is the neglect of science and technology. The result is a complete stagnation of science and technology during Qing Dynasty. In the early part of 20th Century, the leading intellectuals correctly saw the stifling and oppressive effects of the Confucianist school of thoughts and started a new cultural movement to overthrow the "man eating" culture of Confucianism. The real culprit, of course, was not the historical confucianism as originally propounded by Confucius but the Confucianism that had come to be developed in the course of history.
Great comment!
Thanks. We still see this form of toxic confucianism passed on within some Chinese families, often with negative results.
Interesting and insightful
And what caused the rot from within? Yes, it started at the top. At Emperor Qianlong's level.
If the west is just raising an argument or debate of freedom and democracy, I would pay respect to listen. But if they use freedom and democracy to gain advantage of their competition against Chinese economic grow and technological advancing. I would against them. That doesn’t mean I am happy with everything happening at home. China has a lot of problems such as we are sort of falling back to the old Mao style, media heavily praising country leader and our constitution got modified by in-seat leader to favor him to stay in power as long as he wants…
But all my home problems are not going to give the West advantage to insulting us and spread lies such Xinjiang and provoke our nation sovereignty such as Taiwan. Despite our problem, we as Chinese would continue to support our economy and our rights to develop our technology industry and defense system.
He's a Chinese man, but difinitely a true man, a brave man, and strong man inside and outside who can face the past without humiliation, because he is aware that he must face it in order to move on so that he can face this present times so that his deeds will be fruitful in the future. May this vlog may even touch China's Government and Chinese people's hearts. Godbless America and China and every country around the world, be at truth and peace.
And what are you implying? China moved on decades years ago, otherwise China would not be what it is today. But China makes sure that she does not forget the past and strive to make sure that it will not be internally weak again. Even her national anthem ends with "move forward". Whatever George is saying is what he learned from China's historians.
@@Wann-zo7rn2qn4i I'm implying that Mao once tried to destroy everything that are not branded as communist, he tried to delete, to abolish, to eradicate everything about China's past and that's the china's dilemma and humiliation. They forgot their authenticity as a chinese, they forget their purity and most of all they forgot to trust everyone.
Do you know that China is once a democratic country until democracy lose upon the hands of communism as it Rise in China? Do you know that every chinese men whose loyal to democracy flew to taiwan because and because of that the idea of democracy and cultural preservation stay in the hearts and mind of every taiwanese men that's why taiwanese people claims that China belongs to them as well as chinese people claims that Taiwan belongs to them. they were once part of china but because of China's bad deeds they tend to be apart from China and be able to become independent, I know China as a communist country they will try to stop Taiwan from becoming an independent country because taiwan is a great place with many resaurces and because of that they will get every opportunities that with Taiwan they'll stop Taiwan from becoming a country in any ways.
Look at Beijing and Hong Kong they also tends to be apart of China they want freedom, "the youth," the young people of our generation of China is now backlashing and wanting a revolution to get democracy again for they now realized that they can make better future if they'll become democratic, now don't get me wrong China is afraid of its youth that's why many premium colleges from China became vocational college schools, it is a method to control the youth to minimize the people who can access and take job from the China's government, and this may be also the government's method to choose the people who can continue the legacy of Communism in China, am i right. Now if you look closer Chinese youth are now being observant and vigilant agile to make change again, do you that fighting the youth in present is fighting the next generation who can bend and mold the future as they want to. Stop being communist China or the youth will!
@@zhyrille1956 since when china gives democracy to hk???. Even hk people did not fight or was given democracy by democratic uk. Hk is suppose to join china by 2047. So you want democracy, migrate away to democratic countries.
@@zhyrille1956 I think you need to do more real research and do more critical thinking. Just by your one statement that "China was once a democratic country" already let me know that you know very few facts. Adios,
@@Wann-zo7rn2qn4i Qing dynasty
The first introduction of the concept of modern democracy into China is credited to exiled Chinese writer Liang Qichao. In 1895, he participated in protests in Beijing for increased popular participation during the late Qing dynasty, the last ruling dynasty of China. It was the first of its kind in modern Chinese history. After escaping to Japan following the government's clampdown on anti-Qing protesters, Liang Qichao translated and commented on the works of Hobbes, Rousseau, Locke, Hume, Bentham and many other western political philosophers. He published his essays in a series of journals that easily found an audience among Chinese intelligentsia hungering for an explanation of why China, once a formidable empire of its own, was now on the verge of being dismembered by foreign powers. In interpreting Western democracy through the prism of his strongly Confucian background, Liang shaped the ideas of democracy that would be used throughout the next century. Liang favored gradual reform to turn China into a constitutional monarchy with democracy. The goal of the Hundred Days' Reform was to reform China into such as system, but it was rapidly reversed in the Wuxu Coup.
Liang's great rival among progressive intellectuals was Dr. Sun Yat-sen, a republican revolutionary. Sun felt that democracy would be impossible as long as the Qing monarchy still existed. Democracy was part of his platform, the Three Principles of the People (三民主義) - the principle of the people under 1 nation (nationalism), the principle of the people's rights (democracy), and the principle of the people's livelihood and well-being (civility, decency and respect). Like Liang, Sun agreed that democracy, or at least universal suffrage, could not happen overnight in a country with high illiteracy rates and a lack of political consciousness. Sun's Three Stages of Revolution called for a period of "political tutelage" where people would be educated before elections can occur.
Responding to civil failures and discontent, the Qing Imperial Court responded by organizing elections. China's first modern elections were organized by Yuan Shikai for Tianjin's county council in 1907. In 1909, 21 of 22 provinces, with the exception being Xinjiang, held elections for provincial assemblies and municipal councils. Requirements were strict; only those that passed the imperial exams, worked in government or military, or owned 5000 yuan of property may vote or run for office. This essentially limited the electorate to the gentry class. Hundreds of thousands voted and the winners were overwhelmingly constitutional monarchists, followers of Liang Qichao. The provincial assemblies elected half of the 200 member national assembly, the other half was selected by regent Prince Chun. All of these assemblies became hotbeds of dissent against the Qing as they were protected by freedom of speech. In 1909, the Qing government held parliamentary elections.
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The desperation 😂😂😂
Internal rot in QianLong or HLoooong!!!
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The trade issue was primarily between Manchuria (not China) and Mercantilist Britain. Britain wanted to trade manufactured goods, The Manchu Emperor didn’t. The Manchus were quite arrogant too, wanting the greatest power on the planet to knee and pay vassal homage to the Middle Kingdom. The disgraceful Opium trade was fuelled by William Jardine and Mercantilists. The ethnic Chinese already had a penchant towards the Opium, Commissioner Lim tried to stop. For Britain, wanting to balance its trade, China was a long way away, but would use its technology to squash decent or protest against trade or damage to cargo.
Is it despicable to sell drugs, which are sold within ones own country, overseas, just because the drug was subsequently found to be prone to abuse?
One has a Chinese heritage and the other has an Indian heritage but both are politically Chinese.
Many countries have suffered humiliation but have moved on. E.g. You don't hear France crying about WW2 & in fact France have an excellent relationship with Germany these days. The CCP like to see themselves as the victim as this helps unite the people by creating an us against them mentality. I am sure many Hong Kongese & Tibetans are feeling pretty humiliated right at this moment.
Next debate ; How US colonize & humiliate India, China will have its last laugh 😅
Take care KM ..My choice of PM🧂🥭🍊🧂💝🛑🔴👹
India was under Moghul rule for 700 years and totally colonised by the British for 300 years.The Indian government doesn't go berserk by their past history.
Because india is a creation of brtitish
George looks tired and beat up. He was the first minister to get boot out of his office by loosing however he went to Hong Kong. He should fight the Aljunied ward back, but he gave up and left.
George lost the election not because he is inferior but there was a real need for some "capable'' opposition's to balance up the seats. Hopeful they can play more valuable contributing roles not just by opposing.
@@lytstevie8112 as an soldier you loose some ground, you can win it back.
Anyone notice how much he have aged?
This is the problem with Chinese system, one miss step from the top will cause dearly future of a nation
“Composing history”, need to say any more?😂😂😂😂😂
GY's view of the Opium War is skewed. Either he was being disingenuous or treading on political correctness , the latter would reveal him as a spineless academic , whatever his fear or reservation.. Anyway, he was never an effective leader in gvt office or savvy politician , one whom LKY treated as collateral damage in his grand scheme of things, one that I m sure GY is clueless about.
It is clearly documented in Chinese history that the Opium Wars were wars waged unilaterally on the Qing for access to ports for the distribution of the Opium trade. HK, Macau were ceded for this purpose to facilitate the storage and smooth transit of Opium into the Chinese markets and heartland. But GY opined that it was the Chinese market for Opium that caused em that century of humiliation. The fact that the Brits bombed and invaded the Qing to force control & custody of those ports for Opium trade is indictment enough to contradict GY words alluding Opium humiliation to the Chinese markets. If you don't have supply , how is there gonna be consumption? And it was enforced supply at gun-point literally then by the Brits and later the 8 Nations Alliance. GY is a poor academic , and a confirmed weak politician. His reply to his host is political in nature, not reflecting the truth. Disappointed with him. No spine.
Look at the opioid crisis unfolding in America. I've watched the US political establishment blame China and Mexico for distributing the drugs, completely neglecting the role of Big Pharma and the despondence of its working class. GY was able to back his point sufficiently IMO. Life's the same, by the way.
As someone else shared - Sun Tzu said: The good fighters of old first put themselves beyond the possibility of defeat, and then waited for an opportunity of defeating the enemy. To secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.
@@pr0newbie Your line of thought sounds good.. and perfect - if only China like the Brits have enforced - by brutal means with guns and soldiers - the supply upon the weakness of the US consumers. But you know China doesn't, as you had mentioned that it was blamed for the supply. Blaming someone doesn't equate to the blamed one being guilty of an act as common sense dictates.The US is a powerful country with a great military and law enforcement aparatus. It is hilarious to suggest China has the capability in enforcing the opioid trade on the US. Unlike the Chinese upon whom Opium was enforced, and supplied by the victorious ships protected by cannons and the western military , the US consumers, in contrast, willingly seek out countries in peace times - whc may include China - to purchase the opioid drugs. There lies that little but darn flaw in your nice lines.
@The Oracle no one doubts the role Britain and imperialism played in this. But GY is right to say that the health of the Chinese back then was already weak, hence why China were so porous and slow to react to their own opioid crisis. We can choose to ascribe 100% blame to external forces, or on introspect learn from what made society so weak as to succumb to the opium trade for such a long time before things flared up. That is the point.
It has been thought provoking enough for me to consider if this is 1 major reason why Chinese policy makers today are so hawkish and strict on seemingly innocuous matters they deem negative to society - the gaming restrictions - for example.
Also, consider the US's slow and ineffectual reaction to their own current crisis. The Chinese will be inferring from their own past and reading this as a sign of major decay within the US empire.
Why was there such a big market for opium even though the British forced it to be sold legally in China? Well, try selling opium legally and openly in the supermarkets in UK, USA Singapore etc and see what will be the result.
Different centuries. Opium was already a problem, before the horrible Opium Wars. Britain wanted to trade manufactures, but the Manchurian Emperor said, no. The British Mercantilist were the trouble makers. Britain stepped in because it had guardianship over protecting cargo.
@@petersinclair3997 you mean to say the British thus committed no sins in forcing the Chinese to trade opium which resulted in many millions dead from opium addiction? And the opium war was justified?
If the west hadn’t opened up China where would it be today? You don’t hear about the arrogance of Chinese establishment as being part of the problem in the “century of humiliation” (have the Manchu’s been conveniently forgotten about their humiliation of the Han). Pride becomes before a fall. A note to all the wolf warriors in the audience who have only revenge in their hearts and fail to take account any failings in Chinese history.
Humiliation you ask for it....be a democratic country the world will love you
Talk only. Karenland can't even handle their own toilet.
Master of assumption.
The kind of reflection of history outside China like this can only happen in Singapore
Of all in pap. George Yeo is the one can gain my respect. The rest are craps
China no more Mr. Nice guy.
china humiliation is written in history as highlighted by George Yeo and Kishore Mahbubaniy , get over it . no matter what china do now the humiliation will be remember forever.
disgrace Singaporean ?