Kiss Fans Disappointed After Final Concert
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- Опубліковано 5 гру 2023
- Kiss Fans Disappointed After Final Concert
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they fucked up by not having Bruce there or thank him, Ace, Peter, and RIP to Eric Carr, They blew it.
I was completely disappointed. Regardless of whether Ace and Peter showed up, they changed nothing. The same damn set list. There are dozens of things that they could have done differently. They could have brought back an old KISS stage or the old KISS logo. They could have played longer even if it meant having an intermission. They played Say Yeah, fucking seriously? You couldn't do Strutter, She, Hotter Then Hell or Parasite? How about Creatures of the Night, Crazy Nights and Tears are Falling? No mention of Eric. They could have done a video montage of their career and somehow honored Bill Aucoin. After Rock and Roll, Paul and Gene could have come out to say a few words. They left the stage the same they have for decades, as if they were playing somewhere else the next night. For a band the set the standard for live performances, this left a bad taste in my mouth. You're KISS, DO BETTER
I just watched Creatures of Night from KISS rocks Vegas and Paul is singing it like Elvis with a cold. He can't sing it anymore. or sing at all. Vegas show was just as bad.
Is have similar feelings. Some old classics like Parasite, Strutter, Firehouse or even Shandi would have been cool. Or at least some more words at the end besides the promotion for the avatars would have been the least to expect.
I had the impression, that they were much more emotional the first night. But hell yes, second night has been disappointing….. 😢
"NO REFUNDS!!!"
,🔥🤘👹🖕🔥
To a word, friend.
The 2025 tour tickets go on sale soon. It’s the “final, final, final goodbye tour” - before the next one.
How can anyone be emotionally “AUTHENTIC” when all the fans in the audience had their phones up trying to film the show, obviously they weren’t interested in anything but their own capture of the moment through a digital toy. Please.
I feel bad for anyone who maxed out their credit cards cause it was the LAST TIME to see them, until it wasn't.
It's hilarious because if you saw one show on the farewell tour you've seen them all.
Just imagine how terminal their credit score will be when they fail to pay off that Credit Card debt.
In 1995 or 2000, or 2021? ...or....etc
They bought their tickets,they knew the risks,I say LET 'EM SUFFER
I paid 1 Grand to see em on their first final tour back in the early 2000's met 3 of 4 original members then felt like a fool when it wasn't their last tour. Hated almost all of their music from post lick it up. Saw again with Def Leppard who were amazing and my wife and should've left b4 KISS.. as for VR KISS bah LAME i really feel for anyone who was at this last show
As a lifelong KISS fan I am not happy about this whole avatar concept being promoted at the final show. I'm not crazy about the idea overall but if that's what they want to do then so be it. I think they should have had a more heartfelt closing with possibly more videos of the past, a special thank you to past members and more thanks to the fans. The avatar thing could have been shared on their website at a later date.
The avatar thing is a mistake. The original plan was to put together a real band to move forward with. NOTHING can replace a live band doing their thing. A young group of guys should have been hired to carry this thing on. Hopefully even writing some good new music to go with the classic stuff. But I’m sure Gene and Paul’s ego’s couldn’t handle it. That is unfortunate. Because the real new band with talented guys would have been great. The fake stuff isn’t going to fly.
Do you realy think that was their final show. I dont.
@@EricJohnson-fp9pe : For civilized human beings like us, yes. This definitely was,
THE END OF AN ERA.
It was the End of an Era when Ace and Peter left the Band! I'm glad I WON tickets because KISSwas at one time my absolute favorite band and what I saw at Madison Square Garden was a KISS off! Yeah, it was cool , but, no respect or recognition to those who got them there, no special anything with the "KISS ARMY"... Thank you, Good night! 😮
@@georgevila1778It was 1999.
The Last night at the garden Paul could of took one minute out to say
I would like to thank Bill Aucoin ,Sean Delaney and Neil Bogart for being there from the very beginning without them we might not even be here today.
Thank you to our kiss family members Peter Criss and Ace Frehley who helped create this legacy we built together that will last lifetimes.
and much thanks to Eric Carr who helped us when we were down
And
vinnie Vincent, mark St. John ,Bruce Kulick and for over two decades Eric singer and Tommy Thayer who helped to keep this entity kiss going!
and especially to all the kiss army around the world, that stuck by us through think and thin and share this victory together w us you are the ones that really made it happen, our dreams were never too
big w the kiss army!
Kiss will live in one way or another forever, shout it out loud and be proud!
How hard would that have been?
They had plenty of time to prepare that and it would have ended them w class and a show of appreciation.
They could have prepared a video behind them showing all the important people and moments in their career in a short montage and maybe added an extra song too .
Nothing of the sort happened because , their True colors and all that 'you the fans are the bosses" BS revealed itself & they're giving the illusion that this line up was the original. The Tommy and Eric avatar proved that.
In contrast to some "old school" fans, Paul & Gene maybe don't even remember Ace & Peter.
But they keep them still alive in their songs.
This is more than saying "Thank you".
He don't have it in him.. he's an ass
@@HappyMachorino-bd8no more like they exploit them doing their songs
Definitely P&G saved A&P from total oblivion. And their music 🎵 will be in the avatar KISS future.
Peter is thankful. Ace should be, too.
I discovered Kiss at 5 years old in 1976. My first Rock album was Kiss Alive. I was too young to go to the concerts but I bought all their records and have been a fan of the OG line up since. It was a dream come true to see the original band in 1996 at MSG. I saw them again in 1998. They should have retired in 2000 in my opinion. They made Rock n roll history together and it's sad how they can't get along but that's life. I choose to remember Kiss in their heyday and listen to the albums. Thank you Gene, Ace, Peter, and Paul for all the music and memories. 🤘
Dangle a bag of quarters in front of Gene, and he'll announce another Final, Final tour😂
If you didn't like the final show, then you know why it's the final show.
100%
That's not true at all. The show itself was fine as all the others have been. But the final show should have been something different than all the others.
@@louisborselio8608Their show has been on canned autopilot for years.
KISS clearly expected their fans to be exuberant about their infomercial as a finale. Wtf were they thinking?!
Seen all 4 originals back in 1978, at LA forum, i like to remember thae band at that time....
Kiss has been on farewell tour for over past 20yrs.
Kiss fans are such huge babies. You know what Kiss is. If you buy all that “we do it for the fans” BS, that’s your fault.
Kiss has a monumental catalog of great shows to watch over and over again - many of which are free on YT. Enjoy the band at their greatest and always remember - and the end of all this, it’s just a band.
You can always see them on their next “Farewell” tour
On the outside, the entirety of the farewell tour has been nothing but a "fuck you" to KISS fans.
Yes I agree 👍.
This will be the excuse the next tour - "End Of The Road Done Right Tour". Why are you touring again Paul? "It came to me after talking with my gardener, that many fans weren't happy that we missed out on honouring previous members, and who are we to argue, so we've taken this on board and one last trip around the world with Ace, Peter, Bruce, and an avatar of Eric Carr all making appearances at each show. We do it for the fans and they have demanded it".
I read that with a lisp! 🤣
ka - ching !!
I'm 60 years old, became a diehard fan in '75 when I was 12. Obviously I still play their albums. The last 25 or so years have been hard to take. Gene and Paul have really turned it into joke.....and I'm not laughing.
KISS became a fucking joke. Great comment and straight to the point.
Agreed! I served in the KISS army 1975-78, re enlisted from 96- 2001.
We rock soldiers fought patriotically to eradicate disco in the late 70's, only to be betrayed with the release of Dynasty.
OMFG!🤦
You are correct, I'm 51 fan since 76 ,yes i was 4, my mom was a huge KISS fan turned me on to them, they were my childhood heroes, what a shame it's been since the farewell tour 2001
Man, our demographics are IDENTICAL. "Alive!" was the first album I ever owned. I gazed for HOURS at the booklet inside of the album. I thought Gene, Paul, Ace and Peter were the coolest guys that ever walked the earth. I played the shit out of that album!
Here's the thing: for most bands, it's about the music. Kiss themselves are the ones that made it about more than just the music. It was the live show, it was the CHARACTERS they created. More so than any other band, Kiss was NOT in a position to change members, they were a cast of characters. Try to imagine if in season 4 of The Sopranos, three producers of the shower had issued a statement that said "the management of The Sopranos was unable to come to terms with James Gandolfini, but are very pleased to announce that Joe Blow will be taking over the role of Tony Soprano". NFW! That would not fly. Gene and Paul NEVER understood this.
I saw the first show of the reunion tour at Tiger Stadium in Detroit in 1996, and even with a few warts, it was GLORIOUS.
After that tour, they became a glorified tribute band.
@@MotownGuitarJoe The tribute band you see now has been rebranded as ki$$.
I was a fan when I was a teenage, ate the 80´s... Kiss died when he took of the masks and changed the style to sound like 80´s and 90´s bands... During last 20 years, Kiss turned into a mere carichature of himselves
I specifically noticed Paul get emotional during the MSG show when announcing where his parents sat the first time they played the Garden in Feb 1977. He also mentioned where Gene's mother sat
that was a very different MSG back then
My farewell to KISS was 2000 with the original members. I never really cared for the last part of the act - I get it Ace and Peter can be difficult to lasso but Tommy and Eric stepping in with Peter and Ace lookalikes never appealed to me. They should’ve created separate characters for them. Gene and Paul have always been controlling the money train, Gene never denies it. The last concert should’ve been a video montage of pioneers to the present, not introducing avatars. I’ll hold onto my memories of a band that was amazing from 1974 to 2001 ish. That’s my avatar………….😊
RIGHT ON!!!👍
Great comment, Kiss should have ended in 2000, with the original band intact and their legacy to.
Amen and very true. Not the same Kiss that I grew up loving.
You nailed it. Half-KISS retiring wasn't the same as KISS retiring. That band ended over 20 years ago. It was disingenuous to use Ace and Peter's make-up.
Serious fans should've bailed the moment they started dressing up Eric and Tommy as Ace and Peter.
When was this I'm pretty much blind and didn't see it happen that's pretty much low repute right there.
That's what I did, Chrisdrumz. 🤷♂️
¿A serious fan? Who is more interested in clothing and makeup? Then go and watch a fashion parade.
@@HappyMachorino-bd8no all he's saying and I agree is that for the two new guys kiss should have and could have come up with new characters and seeing as how they made the originals they would have had a shot or more than a shot at making them memorable if they wanted to. I mean if I'm not mistaken this is the one and only Vinny Moore we're talking about. Mind's eye, out of nowhere
@@HappyMachorino-bd8no oh my bad this was post Vinnie Moore. Yeah the rest of my comment still holds.
THE REASON FANS WERE NOT HAPPY WAS BECAUSE ACE AND PETER WERE NOT THERE!!!!!!
Truth!
I mean that is 100% the truth real kiss didn't go 4 this garbage now I understand kids that could not see the in the 70S or even the REUNION IN THE LATE90S but real kiss fans we NOT TAKEN BY THIS PATHETIC MONEY GRAB! It was and is embarrassing
Agreed 100%!
Ace & Peter were asked to join them for the last night, but both declined.
...Ace and Peter were not there...? But why should I be still disappointed after all the years and decades?
(I would like to see the four originals in an EXTRA show. Just a dream.....)
KISS is all about Kiss, They never mention past members that played in the band and they dont seem to care.
Never mention? But you obviously never read e.g. GUITARWORLD? How brilliant Ace was. "I loved him" etc. And Vinnie was a brilliant musician...And they invited Bruce to be with them in the RRHOF.
The "hater" channels offer more trash. But you can also find a lot serious information on UA-cam.
They have done alot in 50years.
Sure Paul can't sing anymore but listen to when he could .
He was 1 of the greatest singers I've heard.
The last show.......money !
What? I'm not the biggest Kiss fan, although I do like some of their songs. This show was really good, I don't see how disappointed these people are? I watched this concert twice now, I have a copy of it, and thought it was super good! Come on man, it's Kiss live!!!!!
This is like their 100th farewell tour if you think they’re retiring, I don’t think so. I’ll come back in a couple years say something like we miss touring.
Wanna bet?
@@jimmykrackkorn4347 not as many farewells as Cher or Elton
They only had one farewell tour that I'm aware of, it had the original members in make-up. Haven't had that since that tour closed. Of course the rest of the band rocked on for another 20 years. But the farewell tour with the original members was the one we all wanted to see, so glad I saw it.
The reason why there was no recognition of previous members because that would have triggered legal fights. For all we know is Kiss may have had a gag order not to talk about the past of previous members. We all know that the way Paul sees it Kiss wouldn't have had a 50 year career if it wasn't for his constant total control. It's Pauls band and thats no secret.
I only saw them live once and im kind of upset with myself that I didn’t see them more im only 22 years old and im a huge kiss fan and i will always be 🤘🏼
When I was a teenager I used to think "If there's a band called Kiss there must be a band called F#ck, too".
I'm a Kiss fan since 1976, You Know why I was happy with the final concerts in MSG unlike all of you? Because I Bought tickets for both nights for a bunch of $$$$ and finally at the last moment I decided to resale it and so I WASN'T THERE 😍
I have been a KISS fan since a kid growing up in the late 1970's, when they touring their last concert, I was gonna buy my tickets but I backed out because it wouldn't be the same without Ace and Peter, it just wouldn't be the same spirit of KISS, and I only listen and watch the original band on u tube and CD's, well maybe just maybe some day if Paul and Gene would reasoned and pay Ace and Peter well, and play a live band concert, my God, every KISS fan in the world would die buying a one time ticket to see them, but like I said it's just a dream thought.
Aussie Fan from the late 70’s til 2001 here! Wasn’t expecting a long set list but like most have said they could have done some songs not heard live for a long time (Strutter, Crazy Knights, Got to choose, hell even Take it off - just to name a few). What annoys me the most is not acknowledging any past members. It’s one thing to not have them present (egos clearly are a factor here) but surely a video documenting all eras and members should have been arranged, hell Tommy was doing that for Kiss for the longest time. Should have called it quits long before then
It was a celebration of 50 years of music and hard work! Wish I could have been there. ❤
I was hoping they would at least change the setlist a little for the final show but it was the same as the whole tour.
Like lennon said to beatle fans: “you have the old records”
Pleased to say, and speaking for myself, my last KISS show was the last time the original band played. South Carolina in 2000!! I don’t know how many people there thought that was it for the originals, including myself. But I’m sure as hell glad I was there! The band ended then and there for me.
Peter and Ace already did a farewell tour 20 years ago.
It was run of the mill like robots because it was all pre-recorded. KISS has been doing farewell since 2000.
I`m A Personal Friend Of VV And Bruce And It Was A Shame That All Were Not Present. Say What You Will. Been A Lifelong Fan Since 1975 From Detroit
The Farewell Tour was in 2001. And THAT was when the real KISS ended and the farce began.
I loved the show, but then again I’m a KISS fan and not someone living in the past. Half slag em off because they didn’t bring out Ace and Peter and half would slag them off if they did. They did a brilliant final show and it was worth every cent.
Is anyone surprised? I saw Kiss in '78 and '79. As a very young guitar player, I idolized Ace and his work on the "Alive" album. "Destroyer" was their last best album, IMO, though it was starting to get very commercial, which is probably the main reason Ace lost interest. It was Ace and Peter that provided the spark that made the band legends. When Ace and Peter left, Gene and Paul tried everything to recreate that spark, and nothing ever worked, even though they hired very good musicians. They eventually figured out the best they could do was hire musicians who played Ace's and Peter's parts to a T, however they still could never recreate that spark and that's what you've seen ever since 1996 reunion, their last best show, IMO. When all four were on stage, the spark was automatic. It is rumored Ace and Peter were invited for the last show, "they said no", according to Gene. It's no wonder the show was bereft of emotion, the guys who helped put that band on the map were not there, and I know it hurt. Final payback for Peter and Ace.
Knowing Gene, he wouldve charged them to be on stage. I'll save my money to see Ace's band.
Saw that tour, last time I saw or cared much about them. Ace is still putting out good albums.
Saw that tour, last time I saw or cared much about them. Ace is still putting out good albums.
Wanna see Ace this yr , hope he comes to Asheville or somewhere closer than Illinois. 7 her ride but will be worth it
Wish people would quit crying already. The fans got exactly what KISS does. The avatars is just another step forward in the evolution of it all. They did this stuff for 50 years people cut em some slack. Name one thing you have done that has left a historical mark for 50yrs other than on your underwear...
I was there. Spent a fortune. It was the same exact show as the previous 4 years. I was pissed. At least mention and thank all past members and give them their due.
I was a huge fan back in the day. And then I grew up.
Apparently you didn’t. Here you are moaning like a school yard girl with her panties in a knot.
850 : Trust me. You should have never grown up.
I saw the last shows in Detroit, Indy and Chicago and I can tell you it was NOTHING off script for the last show.
The avatars were so good they were on stage the whole night through
My dad's favorite band is KISS and by proxy I grew up listening to them and loving them. Just like my Dad, KISS left without emotion or any visible emotion. #daddyissues #kissarmy
I’ve seen KISS at MSG 5x…my Mom took me in ‘79 for the Dynasty tour.
I was super revved up for their last show ever…..
They did nothing different - wtf….play Plaster Caster or Ladies in Waiting - it’s your last freakin’ concert - do SOMETHING special !
It was a great x, just wish they would have made it a little special…..
Dynasty was my first too. I was 7. 4 days away from my 8th birthday. Had every album. Knew every song. Including solo songs.
Paul once said that Ace was really good when he joined the band, but never blossomed. Well it looks like Paul, in the end, is no different. The fans wanted more, but never got it.
The fact that you wasted your money for a KISS concert, says Everything!😆😆😆
G&P got the "psychology" of this sooo wrong. Even if the people there were, in a way, feeling down about it being the last show, they'd still want it to be about celebrating the many decades of what have led to that moment and get that bittersweet "all good things..." feeling. I guess G&P thought they'd be like "noo what do I do with my life now" and that it was the perfect moment to sell them the avatars. No, that's exactly when you need time to close the book on that big part of your life. I've never been into the post 2000 Farewell Tour Kiss, I've long accepted the band as gone, but everybody's had moments like this in their life, so I can relate. Maybe it just speaks of how G&P have felt about the band for the last decade or so: just business, hardly even glimpses of that feel they had in the 1970s and during the 1996 reunion.
I can appreciate how some were disappointed. That said, kiss has always been a band that ends shows on a high note. And I think they did that here. I also thought the virtual band mock up at the end was amazing. I think a remake of phantom of the park with them would be amazing. Hell maybe even a VR concert with them would be sick. I get it though, a few minutes at the end to thank the fans and ex members would have been a nice touch. But I don't hate them for it.
I would be fully satisfied with a real final consert with Kiss where Peter and Ace played together with Gene and Paul. That four boys together was and is the real sound of Kiss that we grew up with. We can still hope. And- I can accept the KISS avatar's if they are Gene, Paul, Ace and Peter! Sound of KISS is not only the instruments, it's the voices of both Paul, Gene, Ace and....the real cat Peter!
It will never happen because Ace refuses to pretend to play and lip sync , Ace is a real musician not like the Kiss Clowns
@@mandrakeblackstone5838Ace sounds like shit and has for years
Unrealistic. Peter and Ace haven't earned that right. They've shit on every opportunity they had to be in KISS.
@@mandrakeblackstone5838 I just saw Ace 3 months ago. He needs to pretend play and lip sync at this point in his life. He sounded like ass...
they are timeless and immortal,the true kiss army will love everything they done in their fifty year career,alot of bands can never say that
There is no freaking way Ace & Peter should not have been part of this. "That's all I have to say about that." (Forrest Gump voice)
As a momento to take home after the concert. Paul put the zipline up at his house. He uses it to go get his mail.
😅😅😅
I would laugh my ass of if I was his next door neighbor and saw that.
The 'Last' Kiss concert until the next one.
The Final, Final End of the Road and Farewell Tour!!
$10,000 Meet & Greet before the show!!!
I don't think so this time.
They're old, they're done, be original 🤡
Looks like Star Wars, LOTR, Star Trek and comic books aren’t the only brands with neurotic, self-centered fanbases I see. “We expected to see something that was never advertised nor hinted at, and we didn’t get it, so we’re upset.”
That's what happens when you cant put ego to aside and do the right thing for the fans that supported you trough out all of the bands carrier, its not about who you cant get along with its giving the fans a amazing and special last ever show. Heck your KISS that's what your known for going over the top.
Well it's not there last ever show
@@shoeplayisbad1 : Like 007 told Scaramanga, '' You're full of it. ''
“You want the worst, you got the worst!!”
If you want to see real Kiss with personality and raw talent then go see Ace Frehley. He is the way.
He is a HACK that has lost ALL of his skills. I like guitarists that can hear when they’re completely out of tune and don’t just give glares at their band mates for their fuckup. If you’ve seen the video you know what I’m talking about. Saddest part is his gold digger gf that thinks he’s Gods gift.
Could have said something at the end thanking all other members.. would have been the right thing to do.
They’re like a fighter who kept fighting for WAY too long.
Seems to me KISS should have learned something from their old friends in a band called RUSH! Check out their final show, they did not disappoint...
perfect
Rush? They were not "big" enough to be as controversial. Not big enough to disappoint.
Apparently Gene stated that this show would be "the last kiss show in makeup" they left it open to have another final show if they want to.
Drop the tired makeup. Get Bruce back. I’ll pay my money again. Only then.
The biggest problem with this tour was Paul has lost his voice. If he could still sing they wouldn't be ending the road! so I don't see a non makeup tour.
They have had the same set list for over 25 years and the same stage raps....
Their "Last" concert felt like just another gig they've done over the years and not their big end.
Which was not entirely unexpected, as they want Kiss to live on forever in the form of Avatars, something that was tragic as I think this performance should have been something that would go down in the history books for Kiss.
I am glad I saw KISS during their heyday, by attending the Destroyer, Alive II, and Dynasty tours. Those days were pure magic, and heartfelt to the core! While I can appreciate some KISS songs following the exit of Ace and Peter, the band was just not the same after they left. It was like going to high school and having a boring substitute teacher fill in for your favorite teacher! Just not the same without Ace and Peter. The original KISS was like driving a Porsche 911 Turbo, while KISS incarnations afterwards was driving a Toyota Corolla.
KISS didn’t need to stand up on stage and thank the fans. They have been thanking the fans all the time. They always thank the fans. They didn’t have to stand up there and go on about past members. They have said countless times what Ace and Peter meant to KISS. They have always said that without them there would be no KISS. They have said over and over how important Eric Carr and Bruce were to KISS. During their live shows there are video clips of all the past members. They have said nice things about Vinnie and Mark St John in regards to their talents. They have always said how important Bill Aucoin and Sean Delaney were to KISS. They just didn’t turn it into a big production about past members. They got up on stage and played a great show like they did in the very beginning and like they have done throughout their 50 years. Their live show is what they have been about and that is how they ended it. Mentioning Eddie Trunk’s feelings did not add any credibility to the video. He has been whining about KISS moving on without his buddy Ace for years. It bothers him that they have been able to have great success without Ace so he whines about it. KISS can’t make everyone happy so of course a few are going to whine. If some people are ashamed to be a KISS fan and they want to whine about it oh well they will get over it. If they can’t get over it once again oh well.
u have a right to your opinion. regarding eddie trunk, he has always supporting all the iterations of kiss except this lineup and that is because tommy and eric are basically wearing the makeup of ace and peter and playing the part of them. the makeup of them is ace and peters and alter egos and really doesn’t mean anything for tommy and eric. but he also says he doesn’t fault tommy and eric because if it isn’t them, then it would be someone else
@@glowberry_prime he has always had issues with Kiss going on without his buddy Ace. Yes Ace and Peter did originally create the makeup but were quick to give up their rights and ownership to the makeup for money. Then as soon as Tommy and Eric started wearing it the makeup they cried disrespect. There has never been a dispute of who created the makeup but their rights went away as soon as they sold the rights. They can’t have it both ways because of a dumb decision they made.
I saw their final Detroit show at Little Ceasars and they were phenomenal. I brought my dad and uncle, both in their 60s and both not particular KISS fans , and they left amazed and had a new found respect for KISS.
KISS are up their with Elvis, Beatles, Zeppelin,etc
Absolute legends who took no shortcuts to the top. They earned what they got blood sweat and tears....and some damn fine marketing!!!
They should have had the original members and they should have only provided tickets to those who saw them at MSG in the 70's. Yeah, it's impossible to do that, but that would be the ultimate fairwell show in NYC. I got to see them twice in the 70's, once at MSG. Never saw them after that. I only like the original band and their early stuff.
So you’re going to discriminate against people too young to have seen the original KISS?
They definitely didn't stop while still being on top of their game, Only on top of financial status.
I saw them in 1983, 1984 then 98-2000. The year 2000 was officially their last tour of being on top.
Hi Levi please fill us in. When was the last time all 4 performed live together? Was that in 2000? People here are my mad that two members didn't show up here. I didn't see it and I don't know about Kiss yet except for a few songs. I like their costumes.
@@berealsupportive2744 hi, 2000 wasn't the last time the four original members performed together but by 2001 they really looked burned out from touring and 2000 there seemed to still be a little spark left. The two missing members were not asked to be part of the last show.
@@Rock4UNow ok and wow that's ridiculous that all 4 were not together to just get through the last show no matter what drama happened to them. No speech also at the end. It's sad. Makes me glad I didn't look deep into them and follow them. I'll just look once in a while. I only know one song or two so far. I'm in my 30s so I've had plenty of time. I wore a shirt then I was a teen. I love the ace costume and their platform shoes.
The last show they ever did that was authentic was in April 22end 1988 I was there in Japan best show they ever did , it was 2 years before Paul started lip syncing and the band being reduced to an air band. If they had of retired from live shows then , they would of sold more albums and they would of left a legacy .
Paul Stanley calls the shots in KISS and what he said about Ace and Peter on the Howard Stern show should have been the big clue that they were not going to be anywhere near the stage at the last show.
Disappointing because they could have tucked away their pride and made it really special for the fans.
The reality is that Gene and Paul transitioned from musicians to businessmen through the years,that’s why there hasn’t been any new music or changes to the setlist.
It’s all about the dollars,the fans are just walking ATM machines for them.
Ironic, since it was Ace who refused to play for the KISS fans unless he got paid
Or it could have been a disaster. They played it safe. Been on the road forever why bring back the guys for the 70's to maybe wreck it?
@@xxcelr8rs I’m sure just them coming out onstage and waving to the fans would have been plenty.
Paul said the band should be called PISS with Ace and Peter. lol
Howard Stern? He's still alive? I haven't heard his name in like 25 years. Didn't even realize he's still relevant.
I enjoyed the show as usual but was very disappointed with watching them play the exact same set list in 3 concerts, I thought for the final show we would hear some songs they haven’t played in a while to commemorate but they didn’t
The backing tracks cost too much to produce.
It's funny, cause Paul complained about the Reunion tours having the same setlist for 5 years and pinned it all on Ace & Peter being incapable of learning new songs. Now that they're both gone, you'd think KISS would finally be able to pull a Foo Fighters/GNR and do a different setlist each night, right? Wrong!
A false comparison. Back then they were about 40+.
At 71 and 74 it's great enough that they still could remember the same songs at all.
Reading People's angry comments is making me laugh. They are not the band now that they once were, but Kiss as a legacy still have enough credits in the bank for me to be regarded as one of the greatest rock'n'roll bands of all time, especially from 1974-2000. No disrespect to Tommy and Eric as hired guns but KISS was always Gene and Paul's band
Time to pull the plug boys !
I'm just guessing that since it was on PPV, they wanted to make it a clean cut, on script show that they can make into a video to sell later. I didn't have any problems with it. They got the avatar idea out to as many people as possible by introducing it the way they did. Just business as usual. If that idea fails, it fails, but at least they are trying something that is still cutting edge and KISS are just the type of band that such a thing could possibly work for.
5 SONGS MORE BUT.... WAS GOOD SHOW. I BET THEY CRY WHILE PLAYING!!!
I don't know what the so called fans expected. For 70+ year olds, the guys gave it their best shot. I'm not into hard rock myself, but KISS became a legend for the BIG Shows, they put on, (not their 'great' music, in my opinion.) The Fire Works, and fire breathing Gene, Paul Swinging from the rafters to the stage. It looked more like a circus to me... not bad for 70+ year olds. They always tried to give the fans their money's worth. It's a multi-million dollar Business that put on BIG Shows until the end...period.
They could have done a survey at the last KISS Kruise on what the biggest fans would have liked to see at the last concert. Listening to that would been a good step
Yes. Disapponted.
I travelled half the world to be there . 1 and 2 december.
I Just Hope that Is really Over.
from where???
Sounds like you are more disappointed about yourself,.....?
I was at the last show. It felt like they were just going through the motions
I set KISS up in 2015 working for a staging company, was supposed to be their last tour back then. I got assigned to help the prop guy with butane and things. I was talking to the guitar tech while waiting for the pyro guy to come back with some equipment. Asked the guitar tech, hows the tour life on the road. Dude was like "talk to me about anything but KISS or being on the road, man KISS sucks" LOL dude was an ex member of some band called Odyssey or something I can't find em for shit. But I guess he was pretty successful at one point. Was pretty jaded to be doing Kiss's bitch work I guess.
As a dedicated fan since their beginning and seeing them several times in the 70s and sticking with them even through the non make up days, this was disappointing as i felt i really saw how much money is what really matters and not showing really where they came from.
they've never denied that money was a priority to them. If you chose to ignore to believe the fantasy that bands shouldn't maximize profits, then that really becomes your problem and not theirs.
Your last sentence explains it all: They exactly remember where they come from. That's why money matters! This is understandable.
I went to the final concert. It was awesome.
They could have at least showed a KISStory video montage before the concert with a special message at the end.Very disappointing
Plenty of those on UA-cam.
I was there I was satisfied I have seen them over 60 times. It was a great show
Me too
Sorry, that was the tribute band.
KISS disbanded in 2001.
@@stepanbandera5206 kiss will never disband
@@MENFUSSMIKE Says Gene.
Bandera, KISS didn't disband. Your Czech Newspaper wrote fake news!
Let me just say what we're ALL thinking: Mini KISS should be the real avatars. The true successors to KISS themselves.
Been a fan since I bought Love Gun ON 8 TRACK!!!
You know, being a similar age to those guys I can kind of get it. They’ve been on the road for almost 4 years and 250 shows. It felt like to me that they were just tired and wanted it to be over and I can’t say that I really blame them. I have a hell of a hard time just hauling my ass out of bed in the morning sometimes nowadays, much less keeping a grueling schedule like they did. To be honest I’m amazed they got through the whole tour with as few injuries and illnesses as they did.
What the critics don’t realize it’s a lot of work and their bodies are beat up and they’re tired
Hardly. 2 of the last 4 years nobody toured.
@@dochaliday69The covid pause in the tour was a little over a year. First leg was 14 months and the second was 2 1/2 years. Is that exactly 4 years? No, but darn close.
They wouldn't have had to worry about any of that if they would have retired 20 years ago, like they should have.
@@chrisoakley5830
It's arrogant to teach others "they should" have retired! Everyone has the right to work as long as possible.
Of course some were going to be unhappy. You can’t make everyone happy. It’s impossible to do. Still the EOTR tour was a big success and the last two shows were a big success as well. KISS moved on a long time ago without Ace and Peter. It would have been great to see Ace and Peter and even Bruce to make an appearance but for some reason that only they know it didn’t happen. People need to move on and get over it
lol their final night of the tour looked like the first night of the tour lol
THE LAST ALBUM I bought was phycho circus - I wont even look at Monster - But I was disappointed we Never got a final Album from them.
It's not like they're signing off with Abbey Road. They're not The Beatles. Not even close
What's wrong with "Monster"? "Freak" is absolutely freaking awesome💥. "Hell Or Hallelujah" rocks the nation. Etc A solid album with great songs.
I have disappointed in kiss since the farewell tour in 2001 bc they went from a amazing rock band to a Brand it's so sad to see them fallen this way (this is my opinion you don't have to like it)
Like Gene says,
"NO REFUNDS!"
😂😂😂
🔥👹🔥
I gave up on the band after 2004 when Paul had the temerity to continue to slog other members of the band when it became clear that he was a liability because of the loss of his voice. It had nothing to do with Ace or Peter or even the debates over who should wear the paint and who shouldn't. I gave up because so far as I was concerned, they should have ended 15 years earlier. And because Paul and his attitude, pettiness and bullying had become too much for me to support.
That said, they sold well for the final tour and whatever I think doesn't matter. But I'm glad it's over. I would have been happier for all involved if they'd have left with some pride and dignity.
ONLY time I’ve seen Kiss was at Hershey Park in 2003 when they toured with Aerosmith. Me and my girlfriend at the time snuck in, so know that Gene … you entertained us for FREE ! : D
which makes you both thieves :D
@@TPowers515You're just mad cuz you paid out the ass
1974, I was age 10 hanging out with my older cousins playing tapes of great bands like Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, Black Sabbath, just to name a few and they put the First Kiss album on and I never heard anything like it in my short 10 years of life up to that point. After that all I could do for the next 4 years was live, breathe, basically exist everything KISS.
Kiss was amazing in the early days and no matter what anybody says, the Dynasty / Unmasked / The Elder / Creatures Of The Night era were all super fantastic albums even though all the original members were not present on all of those albums.
I actually became embarrassed of Kiss and seriously disinterested with Kiss once the album Lick It Up came out and hated everything they made after that.
The TRUE KISS lineup will always be:
Ace Frehley
Peter Criss
Gene Simmons
Paul Stanley
No other lineup will ever do.
Kiss should have hung it up after all the turmoil in the early 1980s and Gene and Paul should have just created a whole new entity of a band with a new name, considering the crappy and horrible music they made after Creatures Of The Night was released.
The only thing that Kiss did that was truly the best thing after 1983 was a so-called Farewell Tour in 2000 and I was able to take my two daughters, ages 9 and 7 at the time along so they could experience and enjoy part of my youth.
It was amazing to see my four original musical Heroes that I grew up with on stage for what I thought was the last time but they messed up everything else after that because it should have been the absolute Farewell Tour in the year 2000.
God bless Ace and Peter. And although I'm cringing as I'm saying this, Gene and Paul as
well.
Kiss should I hung it up after the 2000 Farewell Tour.
They have been a nuisance and an embarrassment since the so-called Farewell Tour in 2000 was over.
I knew all the trouble and persistence of trying to remain as this entity of Kiss would come back to bite Gene and Paul in the ass!
I was actually waiting for Gene Simmons to come out on stage and spit real blood.
Embarrassment!
This tour should have been called,Kiss Off😮😅
Thin Lizzy did it right, brought out all there pass guitarist, played the songs and kicked ass.
@RF944 : Thin Lizzy are 100 % trash, just like the rest of those boring, unentertaining bands,
that currently invade our regular, everyday lives.
Thin Lizzy one of my favs and only saw them 2x's once in 77 blew Queen away and then in 80 on Chinatown tour and best concert ever been too.
I collected every bootleg video dvd cd album and still am big fan. I met Phil Scott at 80 show and they were super nice and still got ticket and autographs.
Been following them since 1976 and I fully agree with this video. Just a simple comment from each….
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Paul just got over a horrible battle with the flu. I didn't expect him to sound on point. Would have loved to see Ace and Peter. Sad for the fans.