Install New Crankshaft after only 64000 km / S4-Ep15
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- Опубліковано 8 кві 2023
- In this episode we install our brand new OEM Ford Dagenham crankshaft into our new to us 2016 Land Rover Discovery 4 SDV6 engine. The crank snapped after only 64000 km.
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I'd be prepared to bet that the engine will probably be infinitely better than when it left the factory the first time. It's certainly being assembled with more care now than it would have been done originally in the LandRover factory. Love your work Christian, if my Toyota engine ever breaks I'll get you to rebuild it, but I guess by the time that happens I may be dead and you'd be retired. 😂
The Ford factory it’s a Ford engine not Land Rover
@@pj4433 totally Agree its brought in from Fords production plant its not landrovers own.
The problem is, even rebuilt to a high standard this engine could fail again....they can fail again and quite often do. Sad but true.
I have my money on this one not failing.
@@jabberwockytdi8901 yes, no matter what is done, essentially the engine is simply too short...not enough 'meat' in the crankshaft.
Christian I love your precision in your engine building and you are a lucky man having a lovely wife like Vera who supports you every day ,love your vids so entertaining and enjoyable
Yea and she points out my mistakes so that I can correct them. Christian
Indeed, Vera could be prowling the German malls in a mall crowler that runs and blow up Christian's LR fix-it budget instead.
Hey folks, to answer the question about American made part being any good anymore, the answer is no. we don't even make anything here and what is made here is crap. That's why smart Americans buy foreign parts. Love the show, thanks for all the great info and plenty of laughs.
James
I think that you could run the 5w30 for the break in and the switch over to the 5w40
Good idea. And we got 5W30 left over from the previous owner.
@@Vera_and_ChristianI guess it wouldn't hurt for a few thousand km. Not too many though.
Fascinating as always. Your dedication to being in-spec is admirable. Obviously you get to a point where you can't do much about it and just have to accept what you have. I'm sure that many people, including LR aren't as careful as you are. Happy Easter!
Good job as always. Keep it up.👍
Great as ever 😀 When I used to rebuild engines at home decades ago, I was young and didn't have all the measuring tools. Mostly they worked just fine for years after, but I had one that would not rotate as I tightened the caps down ... took the crank back and found the re-grinder had not done all the journals correctly !!!! They were 4cyl Mini and Ford engines and nowhere near sophisticated at that time (1960s/70s) - but I paid my own way through college doing that and welding panels for MOT Tests. Salad days 😁
Love your work, tolerances are for rebuilders, in the factory not such a worry as that's what a warranty is for 😮
Lol 😂 👍
Truer than you might think, for a couple of reasons.
Firstly, factories rely on Quality ASSURANCE rather than Quality Control.
Quality Assurance implies that every component used IS in spec' so the worker doesn't need to verify it for themselves.
Secondly, the guy building the engine isn't going to be the one laying down their money to buy the car so they don't really care if something is a tiny bit loose/tight.
Absolutely fascinating. When you bought this car you asked us to say what had exactly caused this engine failure. I suggested that it was the car’s spirit that knew about you both, and wanted you to be it’s new owners. It’s a spiritual thing and you have taken your repair to the ‘N’ degree. the car will be very happy now and last you a long long time. Very well done- I love my LR3 also.
❤Thank you. Gpx😊
I’ve just this evening stumbled across your series… how fantastic to hear a true professional who has an opinion based on many years of experience! I feel very privileged.. I don’t get to see this side of engineering very often if at all! Fascinating stuff Christian, really enjoy your comments and sharing of your experience plus Vera’s input just adds to the quality of delivering a high quality video!
5W35 would work magic on that engine!
Lol 👍 🏆
LR Time videos are what Sundays exist for 🎉
Thanks for this. I may not understand everything you are doing, but it's quite relaxing watching you do it.
me too! 😀
I've always called it hand brake to Vera & i've been doing vehicles since the mid 70's
Emergency brake, Park brake,Hand brake,
I'm with you Vera.It's operated by HAND.
I really enjoy your videos. You are very well equipped, knowledgeable and competent. You also make a great double act. With the creighton script, I think you would work on the stage or in a tv comedy series.
Thanks for the great engineering insights and the comedy double act. A great balance and mix.
Apologies for the spell corrector. I wrote "..the RIGHT script..."
Brilliant as usual, thank you for making me smile!
What a team you are! Superb attention to detail. From one technician to another I doff my cap and all done with great humour.
Thanks.
Rest assured. The King bearings are the best option available. I've rebuilt my 2.7 using them and already clocked over 50000 kms without signs of wear. I believe you'll be safe.
Found your channel last week as being randomly recommended. Watch all your videos and subscribed. Such great content and incredible German comedy humour 👏
I would have gone equal bearings myself. Just waited a little longer. I understand the logic but also then engine was already apart😅 watching closely and everything crossed it all works out. Really enjoying this rebuild series ❤
1 thou out of spec. It’s nothings to worry about. Great video. 👍🏻
Bearings have never been more interesting!
I call it a handbrake as well Vera. Another great episdoe many thanks for making it.
Totally right, in an emergency you can use the hand brake !
Always a pleasure to watch your videos, keep up the good work
There is quality control in the USA still. They have set up controls so there is no quality products being made.
I love your sense of humor 😂 I always laugh and learn with you guys. Your English is amazing too!
Another great entertaining video guys 👍. I'm glad to see that Vera is still letting you use her toothbrush 😉. I'm with Vera in also calling it a handbrake...Doing a good job with the engine rebuild, can't wait till next Sunday. Take care 🇬🇧
Ah...... Essential Easter Sunday viewing with a nice cup of tea and a couple of biscuits. Life is good.
Love the apprenticeship filing reference. We had to file a square hole in a gauge plate then file a cube to fit properly in it every way. Sadists😂 That was with Vauxhall not Land Rover!
I've heard that if you don't have old bearings to put in place as you did, you can swap shells across the biggest and smallest clearances in order to bring a tight or loose clearance into spec. Even the shells have some variance, so it is worth trying before running out and buying another set of bearings or machining/polishing a block/crank
I understand NASA have asked you to rebuild a space shuttle engine! Great video as usual. 30 oil for the break-in and then 40.
Another great video. Enjoyed watching 👍🏼👍🏼
This is so interesting for those who aren't trained mechanics but could rebuild an engine.
I wish you would rebuild a 1HDFT engine but I know you know nothing about Toyota's.
I love your workmanship and team work. :)
Also thank you I love your videos it has so much information in it that no engineering class lecturer can teach
this is awesome. now i want to get deep into how engines work
Thank you again for this revealing episode. The plastic gauge test was interesting for me, I have never seen it in connection with the TDV6. Simply great!
Vera's comment at the end. 'That's enough!' Great! Xxxx
Brilliant video guys. Thanks for sharing.
Regards.
Steve.
Glückwunsch an Robin zum bestandenen Führerschein ✌🏻
Wow the patients of you doing all that measuring, assembling and taking a part to remeasure and so and so, great work again.
Fantastic job as per usual 👍
Christian, I have to say you are very meticulous in your work absolutely fantastic 👏👍
Happy Easter
Thanks !
Great video yet again. Your explanations are top and attention to detail very good.
Im guessing here, but is or would it be possible to check (X ray) the actual casting of the new crankshaft? There must be a reason why some of these crankshafts snap in exactly the same place early on and others can go on for 300k kilometres obviously the problem is not servicing or oil distribution or oil pressure, it must be the crank itself, I suggest.perhaps poor casting of some ie a tiny air bubble(s) perhaps ? We used to buy the spent scrap Ni Chrome foundry grids form Ford at Dagenham Plant and the percentage of the nickel assay content really varied in those although they all looked identical and were supposed to be the same and I mean really varied from 37/18 up to 60% Nickel assay content
Great video as usual, I always learn a lot from you. The one thing I keep learning from you is that proper quality checks minimise future failures. Great stuff.
Another brilliant episode
Thanks C and V👍
Ingenious how the plastigauge works, thank you for showing us. I suspect that you don’t have any out of vertical pictures on your walls, such attention to detail.
I love these videos. I honestly wouldn’t know where to start! But this is just mind blowing. Keep up the good work!
Highly entertaining build series Christian and Vera, I really hope you get many years of enjoying the vehicle, trouble free of course 😊
Pleasure to watch as always. Happy Easter !
Uh, oh, it may have been right before lunch time, but 23.05.22 was a Monday ... a bad omen one believes the old wives' tale about Monday/Friday cars off the assembly line having more issues ;-) Seriously, I've really learned a lot from these videos ... and no one noticed any continuity errors from filming the bathtub failure distribution a week in the future :-)
Happy Easter guy's
Son "Dad, i broke the mirror "
Dad " bring it over son, I'll fix it."
Son - " Well the car is lying on it."
😂😂😂😂 cried laughing!🤣🤣🤣🤣
These clips are very entertaining and informative. You are great presenters and I congratulate you on your mechanical knowledge.
Thanks you two, another interesting watch. Really enjoying this step by step build procedure. Gives me confidence when it’s time to rebuild my TD5.
@@johncolley3317 not for a snapped crank no but perhaps head gasket blown, oil pump bolt fell off, cracked injector seat.
It has its own special Land Rover owner inbuilt “educational” designs (aka flaws!).
Excellent! Many thanks for sharing.
Lovely job 👍🏻 … crank looks nice and smooth 👌🏻😎 congratulations to Robin on passing his driving test 👏🏻👏🏻
Brilliant, Brilliant, Brilliant!! If my Td5 ever dies, I'll ship it to you for a rebuild....as always, your video is the highlight of my week 🙂👍thank you Vera
You and your wife, you do a great job and a very good sense of humour respect. Happy Easter.🍫🐣🍫🦾🛠️😜📣
Christian, now you have two mangled crankshafts it would be interesting if you could try to measure the radii on the crank pins and main journals at the webs and compare to published dimensions. There was a comment from a JLR mole I recall that there may be some grinding dimensional issues. An excessively small radius would give a stress raising effect and reduce fatigue resistance. It is a bit late however now to measure the new crank without yet another dismantle !
Thanks for the fantastic video, I would run 5W-30 in your climate and 5W-40 here in Australia unless you want to alternate your summer winter oil.
Really interesting stuff. Thanks for speaking English. Looking forward to the next install. 👍
When I see the attention to detail and good organisation you and Vera place in this rebuild .. I understand why my attempted rebuild of Ford 3.0 Essex in 1985 as a poor student, was doomed to failure -
I have a suggestion, 5w30 C3 for the first 1000miles, pressure test and then try 5w40 C3 and repeat.
Wonderful channel, keep up the fantastic work you do!
Well that was a learning curve well done to you both 😊
Great episode guys, look forward to the next one 👍
Another fantastic knowledgable video, engineers like Christian are a dying breed, even these so called engine rebuilders don't go this far, it's just throw it together & hope it goes past it's warrenty period
Congratulations on the test - another fantastic video, run it with 5W 40 - thankyou
5w-30 with Ceratec Liqui Moly. And will run crazy smoothly.
recently found your channel, I love the chemistry between you two and your sense of humor. Also I enjoy driving a 2008 range rover, wouldn't mind seeing something like that on the channel one day.
The cam driving belt, if tightened too tight can make loads to crankshaft. I have found it in practise in our rolling road dyno. When starting with cold motor dynoing the belt is quite loose, but when the motor is warm the belt can be very tight.
I fully agree. I measured 1200 N pull force on the crankshaft. Way to much in my opinion. Christian
Brillante work! So interesting watching this process!
Happy Easter to you great video again, see you next Sunday 🎉
So detailed, love it. Haven't seen someone else rebuild an engine in such detail before. Usually they just do a plastigauge check and throw it all together haha
Fantastic job as per usual look forward to the next video.
i like the precision, how it should be done.
Absolutely fascinating 👏👏👏Thank you ☘️
Hi Guys, just a great, great video as always. The planning and precision you apply to this work is SOOOOOOO impressive.
I need to listen to this engine running ...
If we get it running 😬. Christian
@@Vera_and_Christian When ! 😁
I always enjoy your videos, and the banter between the two of you is always entertaining. Christian is always correcting Vera's British English usage for American English, today's episode was Vera's hand brake and corrected by Christian for emergency brake. I'm with Vera, it is a British car and so hand brake is correct. Anyway, British English usage is more commonly used worldwide.
A truly remarkable video. It is beyond belief that a range of premium vehicles with such astonishingly high RRPs is so compromised by an engine likely to suffer malfunction so catastrophic it takes them beyond economic repair. Our shared difficulty is that we don’t really know what the root cause of the failure is. You can only hope that doing everything else really well will compensate for the design flaws. Maybe you should have a poll regarding what oil to install. Given how tight #1 bearing is relative to the others and the below spec end-float I’d be tempted to go with 5W Dumb-ass for 2000km and check the filter & oil-pan. I’d change this out for 5W 40 for the summer and then revert to 5W Dumb-ass in the winter until you were past 160,000km. Thanks for such superb entertainment on a wet Bank Holiday here in England!
If only as much effort was put into the production and quality checking of materials.
Happy Easter
I like they way you have a considered approach when you deviate from something. I like it even more that you explain it to us Christian. While I won't agree with everything you do, at least you have a reason for it that does provide justification for your actions. I agree with your assessment re the front bearing having a smaller hole as it supplies only one connecting rod versus the middle ones supplying two each. I would love to say only time will tell, however it seems these engines can snap a crank anytime.
Superb video with plenty of content, loving it as usual....
Good morning happy Easter to you both looking forward to the video once again 👍👍👍👍🐣🐣🐣🐣🐣🐥🐥🐥🐥
Happy Easter !
My weekend is now complete! ☺️🤗👍🏻
Great work! Attention to detail.
Great video. The only thing I would say is I don’t think you should oil the rear of the shell bearings. It can mess up your clearances. That being said I’ve seen it done before with no issues.
Christian , you inspire me to clean my dirty garage.
Happy Easter for the whole Family, grate program and waiting for it all the week 😋 use 5W-40
Happy Easter 🐣 Vera & Christian. That’s was really interesting and better than what’s on tv lol 😆 Hope you both have a lovely evening cheers Stevie 🤩
Really excellent work. Can’t wait for next week
Excellent video thank you.
Engineering really is amazing. Not only the forces involved during running but the knowledge put in to these machines. We take for granted at the push of a button and it all works. 🤞
Thank you both for your greatly enjoyable content. 👍👍
I am also impressed by the complexity of an engine like this. We are now at the peak of combustion engines just before they start to vanish. Christian
Fabulous,i could watch the whole rebuild from start to finish in one go..can not wait to see her running..👏 makes me wonder what you might do once she is back on the road🤔😊
It's a he, not a her 😀👍. I will drive it for about 10000km, and then it will be up for sale most likely. 🙋♀️Vera
What a brilliant series of an engine rebuild.
I've been doing some research, as I'm going back home to the UK after working in Taiwan for 12ish years, and looking at buying a LR4.
My research has come to a point that typically, or at least, most of the crank problems have happened at the 60,000 mile (96,560km) point.
There are exceptions, like yours, but again the majority have happened at the mentioned mileage and Km distance. This would have an effect on the decision of 'at what mileage/Km would I buy my LR4 at?'
I know there are probably other factors to go by, such as how the vehicle has been used, looked after, etc, but I'm just using the above as a general rule.
Again, great series and more fun in the future to you both.
You two are just fun. Serious when you need to be, but fun. And the attention to detail...
Thumbs up,very enjoyable seeing it go back together.
Thanks.ps.i,d go with the thick stuff,lol.
Love your style Christian n Vera...............you guys are the ONLY youtube channel ! Precision ! Maestro and very funny ! LR TIME number ! If I lived Germany which I dont {NZ}Id certainly come around asking you about toyota engines haha...........rock on guys
Hi guys thank you for the video it was so helpful and very good details I cannot wait for the next one guys