Tragic Moments in History - The Abandoned Citizens of Alesia

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  • Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
  • Caesar and Vercingetorix faceoff at Alesia over the fate of Gaul! Follow the tragic tale of the non-combatants who found themselves abandoned by both sides in a battle of wills: (Use affiliate links for purchase to help support the channel)
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  • @InvictaHistory
    @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +2178

    This episode focuses on a tragedy overshadowed by larger historical headlines. This is a recurring theme in history and persists today on a daily basis. Empathy is one of the first things we lose in history and it is important to remember that the events of the past were shaped by people who were every bit as real as you or I. Retelling history in color is an important goal of the Moments series and I hope that this resonates with viewers. As always, feedback is welcome

    • @thomassugg3422
      @thomassugg3422 7 років тому +16

      Invicta Great video

    • @swe9139
      @swe9139 7 років тому +9

      Invicta if you even need help with anything to make this videos ask me. You know how much I love this series

    • @thomassugg3422
      @thomassugg3422 7 років тому +3

      Invicta I wonder that the next video will about.

    • @bubblemouth5856
      @bubblemouth5856 7 років тому +7

      Amazing video

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +6

      Nazi "High" Command

  • @Synystr7
    @Synystr7 7 років тому +2250

    Abandoned by not only their enemy Caesar, their Lord Vercingetorix, but their plight was abandoned by future historians also. Truly, a horrible fate.

    • @Guest0140
      @Guest0140 7 років тому +22

      Synystr7 We did not abandon them, we compared them to the yolocaust.

    • @enoughrope1638
      @enoughrope1638 7 років тому +83

      Synystr7 historians never abandon history. This channel actually added more to it then we know which distorts what happened.

    • @kiddeath96
      @kiddeath96 7 років тому +2

      They must have curse this fate to the very end.

    • @FlorenceFox
      @FlorenceFox 6 років тому +19

      Draco B
      To study history in any meaningful way necessitates speculation. The fact of the matter is, we can only acquire cold hard evidence for so much, and if we wish to make sense of any of it, we must apply educated guesswork to try filling in the gaps.
      Of course it is important to distinguish between what we know and what we think, but dismissing anything we don't know for certain will leave you with a very incomplete picture of history.

    • @enoughrope1638
      @enoughrope1638 6 років тому +2

      Which distorts the facts for future historians which was my point. I am not a huge fan of gibbons for instance but I respect his work in The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire because he included so many contradictions in his footnotes. A page might say an emperor ruled from 272 - 274, then the footnotes say "this overlaps with tacitus claim of a four year reign beginning on the ides of December. Yet I feel that is an in error as he also sets the coronation in 277 after the ...." etc. You slowly must include more and more "filler" until even the most brilliant work is half guesses.

  • @jacquesfrancois4151
    @jacquesfrancois4151 7 років тому +4142

    It's particularly horrible to imagine that many of the Gallic warriors in Alesia likely had family among those civilians forced outside the city, imagine standing guard day after day, knowing your wife and child are out there dying of thirst and hunger, while being helpless to save them, it must have been torture.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +725

      Psychological warfare like that can be really effective. One of the images I was pondering would be the view of no man's land as a guard. Basically every night you see fewer and fewer camp fires until one day it just goes completely dark...

    • @profile1172
      @profile1172 7 років тому +43

      Jacques François bitch its their fault

    • @atreides213
      @atreides213 7 років тому +358

      Invicta That description sent a shiver down my spine. Imagine after losing the battle, knowing that you sent innocent women and children, your OWN women and children, to die slowly, and it was all for nothing.

    • @MrPancake777
      @MrPancake777 7 років тому +75

      Kai Thomason yeah not even going to blame the Romans for plundering and bringing death and despair to a whole people right? Give me a break!

    • @frinkls5347
      @frinkls5347 7 років тому +57

      It's their fault for wanting freedom!

  • @sixtycats8652
    @sixtycats8652 7 років тому +359

    "We must not forget, so that we are not forgotten"
    Chills

  • @TTT-qk1cs
    @TTT-qk1cs 7 років тому +1413

    Great job!
    Really got inside my skin... we often seem to forget that all these people had lives with their own dreams, sorrows, joys, memories etc just as we do.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +214

      The past is really really hard for people to relate to since we don't have much personal connection. On top of that, history classes with timelines, dates, and names to memorize strip even more empathy away. It was only really when I started reading lots of books that history clicked for me and I realized that people have essentially always been the same and any one of us could have traded places with our counterparts from the past

    • @FeiFongWang
      @FeiFongWang 7 років тому +2

      People like you is the problem.

    • @karinefonte516
      @karinefonte516 7 років тому +3

      History is the account of man's deeds, both terrible and amazing. This is just one of the least fine moments of our path upon Earth.
      What History needs to be is factual, preventing mistyfications and condescendence, so we can learn from our mistakes and make better decisions. The siege of Alesia was imoral from both sides, but repeats itself again and again, even despite international laws forbidding it - and Mosul is just the most recent example.

    • @televikkuntdaowuxing
      @televikkuntdaowuxing 7 років тому

      Krump Grump
      One thing is history and another one is ethics. No, someone cannot be replaced. Dying is becoming non-existent.

    • @devinbae99
      @devinbae99 7 років тому +17

      Krump Grump I know where your coming from, but it's not so simple as "being replaced." If a soldier dies in a war, the family as well as friends will grieve. Their families and friends in turn may also feel their grief. That is not something that can be so easily replaced. Things would be so much simpler if we were like ants, so easily replaceable and so easy to move on from. But humans are not quite the same. (Maybe not in the context of the entire universe, but still).

  • @SuperDogLog
    @SuperDogLog 7 років тому +374

    You can really tell Oakley wrote the script. He always has such a brilliant humanistic approach to history. This reminded me of his brilliant Cannae documentary with its personal touch.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +63

      Thanks for noticing. I really appreciate it when others try to humanize history and have attempted to do the same. A notable academic is John Keegan who took this approach when it came to analyzing warfare. His book, the "Face of Battle" is really eye opening

    • @squirecuckbane1188
      @squirecuckbane1188 7 років тому +4

      SuperDogLog humanism is gay

    • @SuperDogLog
      @SuperDogLog 7 років тому +24

      Squire Cuckbane 20/20 edge

    • @constantinexi6489
      @constantinexi6489 7 років тому +2

      Invicta Oakley, have you read the Guns of August? I think you'd enjoy it very much.

    • @cv4809
      @cv4809 7 років тому

      Constantine XI Oh hi

  • @BrendonChase2012
    @BrendonChase2012 4 роки тому +73

    "So the Mandubian population, who had received the other Gauls into their town, were compelled to leave it with their wives and children.They came up to the Roman fortifications and with tears besought the soldiers to take them as slaves and relieve their hunger; but Caesar posted guards on the ramparts with orders to refuse them admission."
    That's it. The only contemporary account (Caesar's own) of what happened.

  • @cyansuy3062
    @cyansuy3062 7 років тому +281

    A leader who abandons his people is not fit to be one, if I know that my leader may abandon me, why would I follow him

    • @__mindflayer__
      @__mindflayer__ 6 років тому +23

      Eren Jäger It's war, what do you expect? Plus they both made strategically good decisions. These both guys were at each others throats. Plus if I was Julius I would of done the same. I mean he must of thought some of those people were spies. It's a hard choice yes but his troops also couldn't spare them food because his own troops needed to be well fed and ready to go to war. I'm sure one person from both sides tried to help in a way by tossing food over the walls and their actions might have gone unseen.

    • @__mindflayer__
      @__mindflayer__ 6 років тому +4

      Eren Jäger What?

    • @__mindflayer__
      @__mindflayer__ 6 років тому +9

      Eren Jäger First off why does my IQ matter in this discussion also yes I did read your comment. But since you're being a total wannabe smart ass your comment was fucking stupid because you clearly don't know how warfare worked at that time. Maybe if you actually studied history you would know that spies at these times were actually fucking common. So please if you didn't know that you CLEARLY don't have a high IQ. So stop being such an ass. Over a COMMENT.

    • @__mindflayer__
      @__mindflayer__ 6 років тому +5

      Eren Jäger Also did you read MY COMMENT I was simply saying that both leaders made reasonable military decisions. Smartass...

    • @__mindflayer__
      @__mindflayer__ 6 років тому +4

      Eren Jäger Not my fault you decided to be a smart ass.

  • @ximbabwe0228
    @ximbabwe0228 7 років тому +418

    How did the Gauls manage to lose attacking from two sides with about quadruple the forces?

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +436

      The numbers are certainly inflated by Caesar to elevate his victory. That being said, the Gallic force was likely still larger but was less well organized. That is to be contrasted to the Roman force which was able to entrench itself successfully rally troops to weak points

    • @Elador1000
      @Elador1000 7 років тому +168

      Check the video from Historia Civilis on this topic. He describes the battle in the military terms without the focus on the civilians (he mentions them though). Graphics he uses are not so fancy but the content is great :)

    • @scipioafricanus6417
      @scipioafricanus6417 7 років тому +67

      Caesar's preparations like traps , sharpend stakes, moats and pallisades are famous and they were probably extremely effective.

    • @alexsitaras6508
      @alexsitaras6508 7 років тому +43

      gallic troop quality varied wildly, where rome was more more consistent

    • @Lornext
      @Lornext 7 років тому +58

      Because Romans were a lot better at waging war.

  • @vercingetorixarverni6343
    @vercingetorixarverni6343 7 років тому +1298

    Hardest thing I ever had to do.

    • @lucasriddle5538
      @lucasriddle5538 7 років тому +30

      No u

    • @TheTariqibnziyad
      @TheTariqibnziyad 7 років тому +61

      Vercingetorix king of the Arverni well fuck you coward, it was easier for you to just get out of the city before the romans came, but you already had a shema in your head that involved sacrificing the citizens

    • @jackstod
      @jackstod 7 років тому +29

      You know he is already dead?.

    • @carlbates9110
      @carlbates9110 7 років тому +21

      I'd imagine that your experience during Caesar's triumph might have been harder.

    • @vercingetorixarverni6343
      @vercingetorixarverni6343 7 років тому +61

      Carl Bates, one could say the whole thing left me breathless.

  • @lordcommandernox9197
    @lordcommandernox9197 7 років тому +61

    That Rome II : Total War score. Very fitting

    • @falcore91
      @falcore91 7 років тому

      Rick Sanchez I missed that, where was it? I was thinking about Rome Total War battles myself. Games like that scare me sometimes, because I enjoy them so much while they dehumanize and even glorify the nature of conquest, occupation, etc.

    • @luttingdude9415
      @luttingdude9415 6 років тому +2

      Well once in a while I revisit my replays and go to a personal level with the units. Sometimes I hear the routing one crying in fear about their families and begging someone to save them, only to be murdered by my pursuing troops.

  • @Nonamearisto
    @Nonamearisto 7 років тому +87

    The history of the Second World War had thousands of people writing about it. Most of what we know of the Gallic Wars comes from Caesar himself and a handful of other writings, most of which depended on Caesar's works. It's not a fair comparison.

    • @Aster_Risk
      @Aster_Risk 6 років тому +19

      It's incredibly fair. Despite all that documentation and only about 70 years of distance, people still deny a lot of what happened.

    • @burner1303
      @burner1303 3 роки тому +4

      People try to deny the Holocaust anyways though. It's one of the clearest cases of why we need to remember history.

  • @justinpatton1091
    @justinpatton1091 6 років тому +16

    Your last line was great " We must not forget so that we will not be forgotten"

  • @AhmetwithaT
    @AhmetwithaT 4 роки тому +73

    Vercingetorix lost the moment he refused to let his citizens in after they were turned back by Caesar. Even if he were to win the battle after that, he would have already lost the very thing he was fighting to protect.

    • @justinbieber8028
      @justinbieber8028 3 роки тому +3

      That’s a good point, at that point you’re just fighting to defend an empty city.

    • @alteregoiostessomedesimo1081
      @alteregoiostessomedesimo1081 3 роки тому +5

      no, he was fighting for all the Celts

    • @Ansalion
      @Ansalion 2 роки тому

      Rome also fought and claimed the land was theirs right? Doesn't Caesar also have a responsibility to the people?

    • @AhmetwithaT
      @AhmetwithaT 2 роки тому +3

      @@Ansalion Gaul wasn't annexed yet.

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 2 роки тому +5

      He only had enough food for his soldiers realistically. They were there for weeks and when the populace left the walls it gave them more time.

  • @alecdegraaf442
    @alecdegraaf442 7 років тому +582

    Another great video about the battle of Alesia was made by a channel called Historia Civilis. Check him out if you want to know more, I highly recommend him.

    • @robertburnett5561
      @robertburnett5561 6 років тому +9

      Agree that he is great. But no mention of these civilians in his video of this battle.

    • @igetboredeasily224
      @igetboredeasily224 6 років тому +4

      Great recommendation, I came across his channel about a year ago and eagerly await his new video ever since.
      If you've not already, try 'The Great War' as well, they cover WW1 in alot of detail. The presenter does a really good job of highlighting the harsh realities of war, much like this video, and constantly reminds the audience of just how brutal war is.

    • @zarakdurrani7584
      @zarakdurrani7584 6 років тому +2

      Historia Civilis*

    • @alecdegraaf442
      @alecdegraaf442 6 років тому +1

      Fixed!

    • @theodoric7335
      @theodoric7335 6 років тому

      Lol i was gonna say that in the comments

  • @dazhibernian
    @dazhibernian 6 років тому +796

    Caesar - "We're going to build a wall, it's gonna be the best wall. And the Gaulic people of Alesia will pay for it".

    • @Corristo89
      @Corristo89 6 років тому +77

      Only that the Mexicans and South Americans migrating via Mexico wanting to come to the USA are not caught in a warzone between two sides firing arrows and rocks at each other. Most Mexicans are not fleeing from war or religious/ethnic conflicts, but are migrating because of economic reasons (poverty, better opportunities elsewhere, etc.).
      I'd be very careful when taking past events and simply pasting it over current events, since it's often done to reinforce a political standpoint.

    • @brooksh.6028
      @brooksh.6028 6 років тому +18

      Corristo89 Great response man.

    • @movsestimiryan3854
      @movsestimiryan3854 6 років тому +13

      Corristo89 --- I did not vote for Trump out of mistrust. However, I like your response very much.
      Edit - Added a missing word to my comment above.

    • @ilyaakadishtungha7337
      @ilyaakadishtungha7337 6 років тому +33

      You lot must be so much fun at parties

    • @marckzurkenberg5112
      @marckzurkenberg5112 6 років тому +21

      Corristo89
      I think that was just a joke.

  • @davidbriggs264
    @davidbriggs264 7 років тому +549

    I would say that Vercingetorix is more in the wrong than Caesar. By expelling the townspeople, Vercingetorix hoped to last until the relief force reached them, whereas Caesar was under no obligation to help the townspeople in any way.

    • @Atlas-pn6jv
      @Atlas-pn6jv 7 років тому +218

      David Briggs I don't think there is a "wrong" in this situation. I think both made strategically fine decisions, but Vercingetorix's plan just relied on the false faith of Roman "good will." I think what was "wrong" was Caesar invading Gaul, simply to pad his resumé and validate his ego. But it is hard to judge the doings of the past based upon our modern view points. Different times contain different values.

    • @jacobgriffiths8448
      @jacobgriffiths8448 7 років тому +129

      I think the real moral of the story is that war sucks. Vercingetorix sacrificed his non combatants to buy more time in the siege, Ceaser refused to sacrifice the safety and supply's of his men for them.

    • @TheTariqibnziyad
      @TheTariqibnziyad 7 років тому +18

      Atlas thats why he is stupid, or maybe just dont care about his people, everyone should have known that cesar is a psychopath

    • @jacobgriffiths8448
      @jacobgriffiths8448 7 років тому +166

      Ceaser actions weren't psychotic or intentionally malicious, it was a bad situation for everyone and he put his own people first. He didn't know where or how far away the Gaelic reinforcements were, if he had let them out and someone had told the relief army this might have been a documentary about a Roman massacre

    • @seand.g423
      @seand.g423 7 років тому +2

      no, you're _saying_ that because he wasn't Roman!

  • @901help2
    @901help2 7 років тому +27

    I recall hearing that neither side had the ability to support the banished citizens of Alesea, and both leaders hoped to use their basics needs to force the other to surrender or break camp by further straining resources. Eventually however I heard it was the Gauls who caved and admitted the citizens due to growing unrest in the ranks of the soldiers within Alesea, who (some) had personal connection or shared heritage with it's citizens. Vercengetorix could not risk loosing control of his troops as it would weekend their own ability to defend against a Roman attack when news reached Caesar, however this simply created a more dire situation for the Gauls leading to more desperate actions in order to receive reinforcements, etc. (sending off Scouts/messagengers to plead,etc.)

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +13

      Its a lot of speculation with little to go off of. I do certainly hope that the Gaul's did eventually yield and let the citizens in with the Gallic reinforcements arriving before food shortages caused starvation.

  • @reubenlawrence5258
    @reubenlawrence5258 7 років тому +147

    brilliant and unique take on alesia. one that is too easily forgotten as the Roman period is incredibly 'romanticised', all you tend to recall is the glory and greatness, and the reality is; as above.
    love it.

    • @mykomatos5445
      @mykomatos5445 7 років тому +17

      Though, I have huge consideration for the romans even if we don't look at the glory. The pax romana made a lot of inhabitants safe from the flames of war for generations (which was a luxury at the time, gauls were famed warriors and it is not for nothing), and the romans developed urbanism, routes and trade as never before in celtic regions. In the long run I see them as a good empire because they were stable and prosperous, but yes, it is important to recall the horrible cost that hides behind that and remember the human tragedies of it

    • @cadethaptor2698
      @cadethaptor2698 7 років тому

      Mykomatos
      Very well put

    • @oaesiir5676
      @oaesiir5676 6 років тому +8

      It's almost like when you're telling the history of your people that one time everybody who wasn't a combatant starved to death is neither important nor something worth talking about. It's a part of history worth study, but that's probably why most people don't think about it or write about it much.
      "Yeah we conquered one of the largest overland empires in human history, jump-started civilization and human progress by centuries, and became the influence for almost every major western civilization that came after us. But that is all worthless because of this one time where a bunch of people starved because war is bad."

    • @annabellewilliams4653
      @annabellewilliams4653 6 років тому +4

      +DillyDyson007 they actually did ALOT for the whole world. They invented a lot of things and had some great architectural buildings, just saying

    • @tabushka292
      @tabushka292 6 років тому +1

      +Parker Woods-Wilson And that's exactly what the maker of this video was talking about at 8:14

  • @RexGalilae
    @RexGalilae 7 років тому +35

    I came here for Caesar. left with my eyes open to any complete new dimension on history

    • @theodoric7335
      @theodoric7335 6 років тому +7

      If you came for Caesar there is a channel called Historia civilis he has covered pretty much every major battle/event in Caesars campaigns and i *HIGHLY* suggest you check him out

    • @TonyFontaine1988
      @TonyFontaine1988 4 роки тому

      @@theodoric7335 he's very anti Caesar in his videos

    • @theodoric7335
      @theodoric7335 4 роки тому +7

      @@TonyFontaine1988 I disagree. Too often people look at the grand scheme without thinking about the personal and moral repercussions of Caesars actions, I'd say he gives Caesar a fair amount of scrutiny, not blatant bias against him. Plus even if the narrator doesn't like Caesar it doesn't detract from the content.

    • @TonyFontaine1988
      @TonyFontaine1988 4 роки тому

      @@theodoric7335 Caesar was fighting against a very corrupt ogliarchy during his time.

    • @theodoric7335
      @theodoric7335 4 роки тому +4

      @@TonyFontaine1988 That is completely irrelevant. I'm not here to argue if Caesar was good or bad I'm just saying that Historia Civilis gives a fair amount of scrutiny to Caesar instead of being biased, if you disagree you're welcome to have your own opinion and even present evidence in support of it, but you're moving the goalposts quiet a bit by saying that.

  • @culturehybrid
    @culturehybrid 6 років тому +6

    "Nobody knows where Alesia is" or something along these lines is one of the recurring quotes in the great Asterix comics. Reading them as a child, I knew it was a hugely traumatic event for the Gauls. But only just now did this video explain the forgotten horror. Thank you! x

  • @magussimon7221
    @magussimon7221 6 років тому +64

    A populous is always a pawn in a larger game...

  • @jamestown8398
    @jamestown8398 5 років тому +5

    I'm glad you told this. Too often people who talk about history forget the people on the ground or treat their lives as less valuable.

  • @GenetetIncorporated
    @GenetetIncorporated 7 років тому +36

    Hi, I am a translator and I would like to translate your videos into French, or at least this one since I live 1-hour-drive south of Alesia. I remember I went there on field trip in primary school. If you happen to come to this part of Burgundy, i also advise you to visit Bibracte, the site of the ancient capital (oppidum) of the Aedui, the local Gauls. The Museum of Celtic Civilisation and the landscape up the hill are worth it ! :-)

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +25

      You are very welcome to translate this into french. I'd love to visit the site at some point in the future and will definitely keep tabs of your recommendations

    • @GenetetIncorporated
      @GenetetIncorporated 7 років тому +8

      Glad to hear that ! However, I don't quite know how to add subtitles to UA-cam videos. I offered my services to Aussie comedian Neel Kolhatkar for his short films long ago, but since I could add the subtitles directly here, I had to resort to special software, and when you're on Mac, there little choice among free and easy apps. So I gave up.
      Maybe if you grant me access to your channel I can do something. Or else, I can send you the lines and you'll add them ?

  • @TheTariqibnziyad
    @TheTariqibnziyad 7 років тому +51

    remember vercingetorix was a noble, they believed that the "folks" were to be sacrificed and that it was normal for them to be so, why did he surrender at the end ? did he wish to be spared ??? after all the misery ? he should at least had died in battle, but ceasar was just yet cruel.

  • @PenderTheTyrant
    @PenderTheTyrant 7 років тому +12

    I love these videos as i love this channel. Total War, documentaries... All that was missing on my youtube subscription list.

  • @CrunchyNorbert
    @CrunchyNorbert 7 років тому +25

    the man from Alesia sitting next to the cart seems to have an abundance of supplies

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +21

      yeah but its all red apples... the greens ran out long ago : (

    • @bassault
      @bassault 7 років тому

      +Invicta That's a death sentence

  • @honestabhe3138
    @honestabhe3138 7 років тому +160

    Happiness is watching notification about Invicta.

    • @zakback9937
      @zakback9937 7 років тому +3

      when hoping for another part for the siege of Jerusalem vid however we get different story of history but with same quality of standards.
      A surprise but welcoming one....

    • @honestabhe3138
      @honestabhe3138 7 років тому +1

      BoarhideGaming why you gotta be mean man?I know I'm kinda tough but I have feelings too.

    • @lordcommandernox9197
      @lordcommandernox9197 7 років тому

      BoarhideGaming whoa, the man was killed by is own bastard son! Show a little respect

    • @lordcommandernox9197
      @lordcommandernox9197 7 років тому

      Noah Miller are you sure his dad is not the late King Aerys II Targaryen? I'm not. If Tywin wasn't dead I'd ask him what he thought about that.

  • @thomasboyd1402
    @thomasboyd1402 5 років тому +6

    A truly chilling recounting of the tragic destinies of innocent people who were just caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.

  • @derrickpeterson3400
    @derrickpeterson3400 4 роки тому +9

    So sad. The things we do to each other, in the name of politics and conquest.

  • @haflife2486
    @haflife2486 7 років тому

    Great video guys, I really feel like your production quality has been greatly improved with these new shorter videos. Also you guys really captured the essence of why I love history. The countless stories, lessons, and knowledge told throughout mankind's many histories are made all the more significant by the fact that these events really happened to real people. So keep up the good work guys.

  • @tommasoragghianti7735
    @tommasoragghianti7735 6 років тому

    Best history video I've ever seen. You managed to teach history, give a new perspective on it, put your listeners in the people of those times shoes and made them reflect about their own times. That's what history is all about

  • @johnlee-pj3sp
    @johnlee-pj3sp 7 років тому +17

    Save the people, save the realm. Not the other way round.

    • @utku8233
      @utku8233 5 років тому

      When did rulers care about the people? Never. They are simply cows for them.

    • @Mruninteresting
      @Mruninteresting 4 роки тому

      Utku you do Realize it was Either them or all Gaul, Ceaser couldn’t take them, Taking them means Killing all the men who left to Fight with him, Trusting him with their Faith.

    • @mikewazowski4015
      @mikewazowski4015 4 роки тому

      @@Mruninteresting in the end Gaul fell anyway and millions were executed or enslaved in the long term they should have just surrendered

    • @liptongreentea3296
      @liptongreentea3296 4 роки тому

      @@mikewazowski4015 maybe you can go and tell that to the guals before they revolted

  • @firemasterx23
    @firemasterx23 7 років тому +120

    I was here to learn ... not feel ;(

    • @Aster_Risk
      @Aster_Risk 6 років тому +14

      That's a pretty good way to learn, though. Emotional connections make it harder to forget.

  • @zepherfire6790
    @zepherfire6790 7 років тому

    This made me cry so hard. You make history feel personal instead of just spouting facts. I also like your somber time since other youtubers may try to lessen the grim feelings with humor.

  • @griplove
    @griplove 5 років тому

    Thank you for this. Though their plight is mentioned in each account I’ve read or heard, your day to day account is most impactful. Well done!

  • @hotham1111
    @hotham1111 7 років тому +3

    excellent work, you are amazing and create great quality videos

  • @michaeldusenbury6744
    @michaeldusenbury6744 7 років тому +31

    great video, you seem to view history from the big picture perspective, not through a scope or lens

  • @strandedinmotion7268
    @strandedinmotion7268 7 років тому

    Man, you gotta make more of these history focused videos. Your presentation is excellent plus it does provide the viewers with a different outlook on generally known historical events.

  • @Dreamphile
    @Dreamphile 7 років тому +1

    This was amazing. I'm glad i found your channel.

  • @forrestmiller2925
    @forrestmiller2925 7 років тому +107

    I know that voice..

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +15

      Officially Devin: ua-cam.com/users/OfficiallyDevin

    • @forrestmiller2925
      @forrestmiller2925 7 років тому +9

      Give that awesome dude some cred homeslice

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +20

      Added to the video description and broadcasted on social media

    • @forrestmiller2925
      @forrestmiller2925 3 роки тому

      @Benson Caisip Yepp

  • @TheUKNutter
    @TheUKNutter 7 років тому +21

    If this was realistic Asterix would have drunk the magic potion and beat up every roman soldier

  • @qqq1991
    @qqq1991 7 років тому

    Would love to see more videos like this in the future. Both informative and entertaining. The art style was on point, bro.

  • @jacobboles7672
    @jacobboles7672 7 років тому

    very good work on this event sir. a lot of people do not understand how pivotal this siege was for both sides. it is truly amazing to see how warfare was conducted back then and how lives were effected. great job sir.

  • @araposkulo
    @araposkulo 7 років тому +15

    It's always weird enjoying a video stating terrible facts or expanding on horrific subjects. Out of curiosity, I can guess that (like it usually happens) the citizens must have resorted to eating their "beasts of burden" and pets, but is there any mention of cannibalism occurring?
    Great video like always.

  • @breaden4381
    @breaden4381 7 років тому +18

    Look up "Alesia" by Eluveitie on UA-cam

    • @michaelkintzlinger2266
      @michaelkintzlinger2266 7 років тому +4

      Braden Vande Plasse THANK YOU!!! been looking for comments like this for quite a few minutes.

    • @Hunnenhorst
      @Hunnenhorst 6 років тому +4

      The grass was as green
      As it always was
      That sinister day
      The blackbird sang their songs
      As they always did
      That black-letter day
      We passed the great gate
      For the very last time
      I did not look back
      I knew we'd stay
      I knew they would not let us go
      Leave the death strip
      I saw the gleam in their eyes
      Of fear and enslavement
      The crushing weight
      Beloveth ground
      Take me home
      Alesia, Alisanos
      Wake me when I'm gone
      Ianotouta, eternity
      Proclaim our barren sacrifice
      On that ground we cherished life
      We embraced death
      As the children's cries trailed off
      Sob yielded deathly (hush)
      Alesia, Alisanos
      Wake me when I'm gone
      Ianotouta, eternity
      Proclaim our barren sacrifice
      The grass was as green
      As it always was
      That sinister day
      As we walked the alleys
      Like thousand times before
      I knew we'd stay
      Alesia, Alisanos
      Wake me when I'm gone
      Ianotouta, eternity
      Proclaim our barren sacrifice

  • @TriviaTimeQuestionsAndAnswers
    @TriviaTimeQuestionsAndAnswers 5 років тому

    Fascinating! And what a situation to find yourself in..trapped between 2 armies...and no way out, so much uncertainty and fear would have been felt. Very sad. Thanks for the video!

  • @halonothing1
    @halonothing1 6 років тому

    Great video! It really paints a vivid picture of the human side of the suffering caused by war, and gives you an idea what the people went through. I love historical accounts like that, which let you see history through the eyes of the people who were there. Which let you get an idea of what their day to day life was like on a subjective level. By far my favorite way to re-live history. Well done, friend.

  • @Puiz4Life
    @Puiz4Life 7 років тому +63

    Now wars are waged in the comment sections with keyboards and mouse clicking.

    • @theodoric7335
      @theodoric7335 6 років тому +1

      #UnfortunatelyRelateable

    • @cerridianempire1653
      @cerridianempire1653 3 роки тому +1

      Theodoric at least no one dies

    • @friedlemons5201
      @friedlemons5201 3 роки тому +1

      @@cerridianempire1653 unless you get a stroke from reading the comment section

    • @Adhjie
      @Adhjie 3 роки тому

      stroke is overhype -crowbat ant-crane armchair historia aot sent their consul regards sordid way

  • @peletsoivre9110
    @peletsoivre9110 7 років тому +18

    About the size of the armies, It was common to exaggerate the numbers.If you split these numbers by two, you will get sizes closer to reality.Just saying.

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +16

      Agreed, if this were a military video I'd dive a bit deeper into the actual realistic figures

    • @jorrit_trickz
      @jorrit_trickz 6 років тому +4

      Caesaer said, that 300.000 reinforcements were approaching... He has chosen a good number...

    • @christofferjespersen8278
      @christofferjespersen8278 6 років тому

      I bet you got that from watching the battle of alesia from historia Civilis

  • @antwan1357
    @antwan1357 7 років тому +1

    wow your level of detail is amazing thank you very much you are a wonderful human being.

  • @mattstone1759
    @mattstone1759 7 років тому

    Wonderfully done! This new series is top notch!
    I look forward to more interesting "Moments in History".

  • @AmadoDom
    @AmadoDom 7 років тому +21

    too cruel, even for that times

  • @xXTotalDIsCordXx
    @xXTotalDIsCordXx 7 років тому +3

    I feel for the Gauls, if only because there's no record to tell their side of the story.

  • @abdullahnashat6859
    @abdullahnashat6859 7 років тому +1

    good job , i like the artstyle and simple animation and the music is awesome it goes very well with the theme.
    keep up the good work cuz we want more :)

  • @Seven-Planets-Sci-Fi-Tuber
    @Seven-Planets-Sci-Fi-Tuber Рік тому +1

    Moving tribute. Thank you.

  • @luxubukid
    @luxubukid 7 років тому +3

    When the high lords play your game of thrones it always the innocents who suffer most.

  • @fawwazn.1244
    @fawwazn.1244 7 років тому +103

    948 Views And 127 Likes.
    Looks Like UA-cam is not Drunk Today

    • @magnuschristianssen8999
      @magnuschristianssen8999 5 років тому

      M.F Nur-Ad-Din I can't figure out why there aren't more "likes" but it's hard for people to identify with the extinict Gauls.

  • @lusar626
    @lusar626 6 років тому +1

    when they showed this on a documentary they failed to mention the impact such a moment on on the common person cougt between two clashing armies this was truly sobering. thank you. truly.

  • @cryohellinc
    @cryohellinc 7 років тому +1

    Very well made and presented. Amazing!

  • @eloysantacruz7684
    @eloysantacruz7684 7 років тому +4

    You should do a video about the Battle of Suiyang that occurred in Ancient China, which led to 30,000 civilians (including children) to be eaten because they ran out of food while defending.

    • @futurechild1202
      @futurechild1202 6 років тому

      He will not do that because he is afraid to be called a racist and can't white bashing and express his self hate.

  • @barbiquearea
    @barbiquearea 7 років тому +4

    I wonder how Caesar managed to have enough food to feed his army while essentially cutting himself off from the outside with his ironclad ring around Alesia?

    • @vbus5236
      @vbus5236 6 років тому +5

      He wasn't besieged himself, he just made the outer fortifications to defend from the Gallic relief. He had foragers that went out of his own perimeter to gather supplies in the wild

  • @IDontKnowThatGirl
    @IDontKnowThatGirl 7 років тому

    this is my favorite series on your chanel, keep up the good work!

  • @Alexyrion
    @Alexyrion 7 років тому

    This was awesome man, keep it up!

  • @Herowebcomics
    @Herowebcomics 4 роки тому +4

    MAN that stuff is messed up!
    Thankfully, we can learn from such mistakes!

    • @mausolus8466
      @mausolus8466 4 роки тому +1

      Unfortunately, while many will learn from such history, there will be always many more blindly chanting about "honor, righteousness and duty" in war, and as such, zealously supporting ambitious "leaders", "unifiers" and "champions of justice" to bring just another mayhem and suffering. Expecialy last century showed how easily some people can forgot horrors of war and happily turn into zealous mob wanting another war once again.

    • @cerridianempire1653
      @cerridianempire1653 3 роки тому +1

      Erebos-36 yeah it’s gonna go on as long as we exist and besides it’s a lot more harder to teach this now that their’s a lot of us now

  • @WightTsar
    @WightTsar 7 років тому +103

    "Narration: Oakley"?

    • @InvictaHistory
      @InvictaHistory  7 років тому +53

      Whoops I forgot to update the template, thanks for pointing that out. It was Officially Devin

  • @TSmith-yy3cc
    @TSmith-yy3cc 7 років тому

    These are fantastic. Thanks very much!

  • @spiderliliez
    @spiderliliez 6 років тому +2

    "We must not forget, so that we may not be forgotten." Good point.

  • @crazy808ish
    @crazy808ish 6 років тому +28

    Alesia? What do you mean Alesia? Nothing happened at Alesia. We don't talk about Alesia.

    • @yoyoyeah9083
      @yoyoyeah9083 6 років тому

      crazy808ish so hows alesia

    • @Alex-qf9ry
      @Alex-qf9ry 5 років тому +1

      Good reference

    • @vizacars5748
      @vizacars5748 4 роки тому +1

      @@Alex-qf9ry Asterix & The Chieftain's Shield :)

  • @kelvinosei3811
    @kelvinosei3811 7 років тому +3

    The true question is: was it worth saving the troops or the people? Well, Vercingetorix chose the troops .

  • @joalexsg9741
    @joalexsg9741 6 років тому

    Thank you so much for this video!!

  • @c.d.9430
    @c.d.9430 6 років тому

    History channels gives me life and I just found out yours and I'm in love now omg that music and artwork + editing style and the narration it's all top notch 10/10 mate and I feel like Alesia's citizens story has been repeated many times similarly elsewhere untold u_u

  • @DirkusTurkess
    @DirkusTurkess 7 років тому +12

    Great video, some one should send this to the UN to show them the point of a seige. You can't starve out defenders if you're giving them "humanitarian" aid.

    • @foxymetroid
      @foxymetroid 7 років тому +1

      A good part of modern war is PR. The better your PR, the more people are willing to support you. The worse your PR, the more enemies you wind up getting.

  • @luispaoloapostol2047
    @luispaoloapostol2047 5 років тому +21

    Tragic Moments in History episode 30 - the birth of Logan Paul.

  • @VisionsDark
    @VisionsDark 7 років тому

    Your channel is an underrated gem.

  • @ResNullium
    @ResNullium 7 років тому

    Awesome script and narration!

  • @thegreenmage6956
    @thegreenmage6956 2 роки тому +3

    It is known that Werkingetorix chose to give himself up, to spare his men. He was a great man, and far greater than the worm Kaiser, who built spike pits covered in leaves to prevent the reinforcements from entering, and it was he who denied civilians to exit the battlefield, while the King of the Gauls had again hoped to spare them.

    • @hassangamer4289
      @hassangamer4289 Рік тому +1

      Rome The republic was the city of Rome, and they did not have ideas of expansion until the Gauls came and attacked Rome and destroyed the Romans, and because of this, the Romans began to expand, and the Gauls continued to attack Rome and ally with their enemies, such as Hannibal Barca. Julius Caesar did. It was not a crime because If there was no law or morality that would prevent Vercingetorix from expelling women and children from a city and leaving them without food or provisions.
      Vercingetorix left women and children without shelter because there were no morals at that time, Julius Caesar, Pompey Magnus, Hannibal Barca, or Vercingetorix, they sacrificed for their men and their country, but they began to destroy the homelands of others, destroy their people, and enslave other peoples because morals existed in the modern era, did not exist in the ancient or middle ages, so do not make the morals of the modern era in the ancient era, or that Vercingetorix and the Gauls are angels

  • @allonsyisabelli
    @allonsyisabelli 6 років тому +3

    Now I want to write a song about Alesia
    Even tho I can't compose nothing good

    • @denizmetint.462
      @denizmetint.462 6 років тому

      Isabelli Martins
      Yeah, please don't even try.

  • @SirSmokeAlot8866
    @SirSmokeAlot8866 4 роки тому +1

    Seen this battle a couple of times on different occasions but I had no idea about these civilians:( Thanks for reminding us about the horrors of war, it's easy to forget..

  • @FlorenceFox
    @FlorenceFox 6 років тому

    Subscribed. This was wonderful. As you say, when we discuss history, we're often all too quick to forget that the events we're reading about really happened to real people who were just as human as any of us today. We tend to read history with a sense of detachment that allows us to celebrate glory without mourning the loss that accompanies it.

  • @isaacmikola1338
    @isaacmikola1338 4 роки тому +4

    “Will those of the 22nd century read about the Second World War without the holocaust”. Talk about existential dread

  • @alexanderchippel
    @alexanderchippel 7 років тому +10

    Wait, is this before or after Ceaser's troops took a beating at Boulder City by the NCR?

    • @demondwilson706
      @demondwilson706 7 років тому +2

      they didn't mention Joshua Graham so id imagine it's after the first one

  • @Marcow321
    @Marcow321 6 років тому

    Just found your channel, Great work and keep it up because I can't get enough!

  • @ishenicole9987
    @ishenicole9987 5 років тому

    I love ancient history.. I wish I had the time and study it full time.. Thank you much for a brilliant video xx

  • @ethan9567
    @ethan9567 7 років тому +12

    YA YEET

  • @XShrike0
    @XShrike0 7 років тому +14

    "History recorded little of their fate." Okay
    "We must imagine..." No

  • @RedBaron44
    @RedBaron44 6 років тому

    amazing job! most historians, history channels, documentaries and history fans only care about the achievements of historic figures or the course of major battles..but little attention is given to HUMAN LIVES in the midst of all that action..keep up the good work!

  • @ravenkamali
    @ravenkamali 6 років тому

    Great video as usual.

  • @CEO458
    @CEO458 7 років тому +26

    5 people's ancestors starved to death

    • @oaesiir5676
      @oaesiir5676 6 років тому +8

      The Italian government should repay reparations to these people equivalent to the food they might have needed to survive.
      So some grain, turnips, and a few pigs.

  • @jebosamvasjako
    @jebosamvasjako 7 років тому +3

    Thank you for not being snowflakes who wan't to forget the bad things. Thank you for being human.

  • @wright534
    @wright534 6 років тому +1

    "We must not forget, lest we be forgotten." Well said.

  • @LittleMacscorner
    @LittleMacscorner 5 років тому

    Powerful video. Nice work.

  • @jacobrobison4546
    @jacobrobison4546 7 років тому +10

    I think this video might be a bit too pro-Roman... I imagine the primary motivation for not allowing the citizens out of the barricade was to force the Gauls into letting them back in and being forced to feed them. On the other hand, Caesar, could have simply given them free access out of the barricade and away from Alesia without having to drain any of his own resources.

    • @pixelknight163
      @pixelknight163 6 років тому +6

      Some of them might be spies. Not too mention they might become troublesome raiders or bandits and destroy fields.
      + Caesar didn't really have to do anything about them. They are the enemies after all. Although he is Cruel and in some cases kinda psychopathic, The world back then was very different. He did what most Generals would have done at the time.
      I do imagine that the Soldiers stationed at the Town had relations with the exiled people and Vercing didn't want to chance a revolt in the city. So he probably eventually let them back in which weakened the Gauls.

    • @Comintern1919
      @Comintern1919 6 років тому +1

      I think you are a bit naive.
      No, Caesar couldn't just have let them through. Remember, it was a battle of life and death for the Romans as well.
      There could have been spies among the civilians, taking notes of the number, position, weakpoints of the Roman Army. Soldiers disguised as frail, sick men, ready to strike the Romans at their backs. Saboteurs ready to poison the supplies of the Romans. What General (from the ancient times) in his right mind would risk the death of him and his loyal soldiers (who, by the way, often also had family that depend on them) to save civilians from his enemy?
      Also, as 8-Bit Knight implied, if it would be the other way around, the Gauls would literally have done the same thing, no doubt about it.

  • @michaldvorak2501
    @michaldvorak2501 7 років тому +78

    History is filled with stories like this. Yet hollywood choose to make comic book movies....sad

    • @WereRotty
      @WereRotty 7 років тому +11

      Michal Dvořák very well said my friend! Also too bad they screw up every historical movie they actually make

    • @elizabethgiles7484
      @elizabethgiles7484 6 років тому +4

      Michal Dvořák comic book movies make more money..... sad but true

    • @michaldvorak2501
      @michaldvorak2501 6 років тому +2

      pecu alex fact that Titanic was for a long time highest grossing movie of all time siggests otherwise

    • @MrSafior
      @MrSafior 6 років тому

      You know they have an peplum craze in the 60's ? Like they are a comic book craze this day?
      Also WTF you're talking aboot Deathcoldan?

    • @brooksh.6028
      @brooksh.6028 6 років тому

      Leftist agenda.

  • @MatukaEdgi
    @MatukaEdgi 7 років тому

    great series! keep it up! history is so moving yet few know how to tell it that way

  • @basilthebulgarslayer1732
    @basilthebulgarslayer1732 7 років тому +108

    OY VEY ALWAYS REMEMBER US!!!

    • @demondwilson706
      @demondwilson706 7 років тому +25

      now that's edgy

    • @zakback9937
      @zakback9937 6 років тому

      oh and Forget about the treatment of what the French did to Algerians besides just Setif.

    • @ongobongo8333
      @ongobongo8333 6 років тому

      R K its an apt comparison. Don't be politically correct about it

    • @soontobegone1949
      @soontobegone1949 6 років тому +10

      It's not edgy, they push this shit down our throats, we fucking get it.

    • @ongobongo8333
      @ongobongo8333 6 років тому +3

      14 88 people push facts down your throat? Jesus you idiots are so pathetic

  • @dshodaw
    @dshodaw 4 роки тому +3

    Without sources I have difficulty believing any of this. It's speculation.

  • @ZivIzra
    @ZivIzra 7 років тому

    One of the best videos you ever made

  • @Cryptic_Keeper
    @Cryptic_Keeper 6 років тому

    Very informative as always typically for the presentation.

  • @ngyardhasngyardhas63
    @ngyardhasngyardhas63 6 років тому +5

    this is literally, exactly what we're doing to syrians and yemeni children today, in 2017. imagine if the empathy you have for people long dead for thousands of years existed for very real, very living children today.