@@TheObsessiveGamer Hi. Can i ask about a UA-camrs opinion on something? Surely you are well aware of youtubes state and the huge amount of criticism its strike-system and the CEO of UA-cam get, right? I would like to talk about that a bit with a big youtuber like you. Got time?
@@SirWeibrot Probably not there I have a hunch that there going to use similar camera to the lets go games. Lets just hope that's all that copy from lets go.
@@SirWeibrot Imagine beliving Gamefreak and the Pokemon company wont totaly fuck up D/P remakes and make them a cheap Money grab that banks on peoples nostalgia
Honestly this video just paints a picture of how rushed this game was. It seems they meant to add in alot of stuff thats been in every other pokemon game but had to cut it. Sad to think what it could have been :/
Well JRPGs I personally believe need a proper 5 years a of development. So 2 years kinda makes sense for what we got in comparison to fully developed JRPGs.
I say we judge them on the next installment for the switch. If it lacks then yes we can be upset but for what sword and shield was and is it's not so bad.
@@ZebraCore.... I do expect more from them next game as the trend with GF and the Pokemon Company seems to be the first game is kinda shakey on a new console but the 2nd one really takes it a good step forward since they got more time with an already made engine (ie. Gen 4->Gen5, Gen1->Gen2) Though Gen 6 to 7 was a step backwards but I blame that more on them making a lot of bad choices with Gen 7 (which they fixed by gen 8)
@@ZebraCore.... "Not so bad" are you joking? The game is fucking broken and full of reused models and animations. Poor textures and all of that. There is no excuse for the lack of quality the game has. For what Sword and Shield is, it's terrible.
@@ZebraCore.... i agree with the last statement. But as for judge them later, hell naw. They came full steam ahead charging us at full price which means they saw that mediocrity fit enough to go for that price, so we must also judge it accordingly.
Oh my, I wonder why all the pokemon have finished models and animations in the beta stage of the game while everything else is t-posing and the majority of the buildings are cubes. Gamefreak couldn't have just ported the entirety of the Sun/Moon Pokemon models, could they?
The Pokemon were reused models from sun & moon but the character models were new models so t pose is just easy to start testing stuff while the animators animate all the models
i mean gamefreak has been reusing pokemon models since x&y (with some exceptions) and animations as well. its a lot easier to do that than to model 800+ pokemon all over again for each game and wouldnt let the devs focus on more important stuff, would you really want some watered down pokemon game just with slightly better models? im sure theyll eventually update all the models when they look outdated but as of now they all look great
@@dodothefool yeah, gamefreak future proofed the models, by making them fairly complex, which is probably why they chugged the framerate on 3DS hardware, as they were very complex models with simple textures.
@@Yusei255 USUM was out in 2017, the game released in 2019 - also an Ohmori interview in the Game Freak site said they may had started the project in September 2017.
So gamefreak had the models from sun and moon, so obviously they'd have the animations, code, sounds and moves since its a copy and paste. And they said they didn't have time to add them? mmhmmm suuuure.
Well if you look at some of the models like Greninjas eyes, there are some problems clearly with the models, which wouldn't need too much work to fix, but with how short development time was for a full scaled "JRPG" here, it might be why it didn't happen.... still doesn't explain the others that were clearly in full working order though like Ekans and Arbok
I remember reading somewhere that the 'giant toxitricity' was meant to be a gigantimax battle - that Toxi was likely intended originally to be the mascot pokemon, like Lucario or Zoroark in prior games, and that something changed that it was removed (it being mascot, not the 'mon itself) or they just didn't have time and cut it. Given the state of the final product, though, I'd say SWSH just had a rushed development cycle...
The Giant Toxtricity was definitely a statue there as it was part of the environment but I can see it being the mascot based on design alone. We do have a Gigantimax Toxtricity regardless though
It's so cursed to hear "Town" and "City" added to the ends of the settlement names from Galar, after getting used to them having removed it in English.
Such a shame GameFreak's development cycle seems to still revolve around 2D development. 3D games take longer and are more expensive to develop, but they still seem to have a really short dev cycle that constantly makes them cut on content, reuse assets, and overall cut corners just to get it relatively finished. Makes you wonder what these last few gens could've been like if they had an extra year or two of development
The problem is the Pokemon Company gives them too little time to work on these as they want them out as quick as 2D Pokemon. They need at least 3-5 years for a 3D JRPG to be good imo
I completely agree. Fastest growing in complexity and scale the cycle gets tighter and they have to sacrifice more ro focus on priorities like the Pokémon, characters, and muaic. Gen 9 made this clearer than ever
ideas for a video: - pokemon sun/moon/US/UM leak source code -Watch dog legion leak source code remembre take you time to investigate all the data and try to cover all
Well Pokemon Gen 7 is something i'd like to cover eventually, so definitely noted there. Watch Dogs maybe I can in the future too and of course i'l plan to investigate well before making a video as usual. Thanks for the suggestions!
Honestly, I find the Idea of battling your own Mother really cool and creative. I don't think our Parents ever played a significant Role outside of.....Ruby and Saphire I believe?
@@TheObsessiveGamerIt could be actually a really neat thing if mom was the one teaching you a major thing in that made-up world Kinda like it happens in real life But with taxes :(
@@GameFreakSucks sword and shield was not rushed, they were working on it for atleast 3 or more years, as they started development while they were developing US/UM
@@Pitrek1113 Also they were primarily pokemon from the start of the alphabet. Amaura, Arbok, Aerodactyl, Beedrill, Blastoise. It was clear they just grabbed like 20 junk models to use as testers before actually implementing them. But that doesn't fit the "hurr durr game freak bad" narrative, so people ignore it.
@@Pitrek1113 Random, i know, but whatever: Hey, you know how people nowadays complain about UA-cam a lot? And about its CEO and striking-system and all?! Well, here's my take on that: Yes, yes, complaining about UA-cam is nice and dandy. BUT here's the shocker: You can also act. Not just complain, but act. Yeah, no kidding, its possible. I for myself wanted to act, so i gathered and confirmed Links leading to Racists, Sexists, Mobber, Porn, Bullies, Karens, etc, and all the other stuff that simply and obviously does not belong on UA-cam. And i dropped them all on some self-made Wikis. Sorry for the long and random comment, but i think you get why i wrote this. At least i hope you get it. I'm not a big speech-maker, so this comment is probably not enough - so ask all the questions you have.
@@Pitrek1113 They were passed over to thr dlc, so it may prove that they actually did more work to add the pokemon. But I still think they under finance their pokemon games...call of duty spends 500 million, I bet gamefreak uses wayy less money on their sword and shield games.
0:13 ball guy t-pose Edit(s): I wish the 360 camera made it into the final cut I like the unused jingle it might have been used for the title screen or the resume save
Great video but I'm honestly don't think the 3D camera ever meant to be for the full game. The way the areas were designed feel too skinny to compliment 3D camera rotation. I personally think they had the 3D rotation for developing purposes. I've seen many cases where objects that are never fully seen in the game end up having full textures. That are there are clearly huge empty areas in the places we can't usually view, kinda showing they never planned for the full 3D rotation. That's my take on it. EDIT: Also, the hand feature in camp eventually was used for the feather toy you use from the looks of it. And the cut trainers seem pretty iffy. The characters could just maybe have code for fighting maybe?
I personally think the 3D camera was originally intended simply because the entire around area the character was made and rendered in full detail, which we can see clearly in Hulbury city and Postwick city for example when the camera spins here. The in-house stuff however I do agree probably were meant to stay static since the other side of the house is not rendered. If anything I think they wanted a full 3D camera but didn't know where to place it yet so they made everything around the player and then decided to lock the camera in the end. As for the hand in the camp, in this mode the hand was used for everything including petting your Pokemon and throwing a ball even as seen there. Cut Trainer wise the characters didn't have code for fighting simply, these were literal trainer classes with a model assigned to the trainer classes there. Thus there was some intention to use these at one point before scrapped
@@WarningStrangerDanger True though having a free roam camera even with online wouldn't make the game look choppy with no NPCs and not being as big/alive as the wild area now that I think about it. The areas are was too linear for 3D camera imo for that anyway.
As much as I want DP remakes I'm really curious to know what a Sw/Sh 2 would look like if the devs spent 2 more years actually polishing the game and adding the things they wanted
@@TheObsessiveGamer even if they just put all the dlcs in with like 1 or 2 more towns into the base game, I really wanna see like Ballonlea but fully and controllable camera in motostoke and that big city up top would be nice. I wouldn't mind straight line routes if they were bigger and actually had places to explore which would hopefully happen cause a controllable camera in a straight route would be sad
@@TheObsessiveGamer another thing that would be subtle but amazing would be seamless transition from the overworld into buildings ik it wouldn't be huge but it would feel so good, even if it was similar to octopath Traveller where u can see the character walk in and stuff rather than just blackscreen
You actually missed a unused song. Its called the Placeholder Track. It is found pretty much everywhere in the beta files. Even though i am absolutely mortified by the track i would still recommend you check it out
Not exactly sure how reliable this is, but... On the internal box art of the NA/PAL versions of the games is a full map of Galar, on that map you can see that the wild area was originally supposed to go further to the left with a little beach and a bridge for the train. But I cannot say whether it's cut content or just poor communication with the art teams.
This is neat. I just hope they up the scale next time around and personally do away with dynamax and the other versions of battle "enhancements" and also take away the hand holding or at least give us a setting like I'm a veteran player I dont want help.
I don't mind the battle enhancements really. Dynamax/Gigantamax being a boss Pokemon still is viable in a competitive setting too I say. At least Gen 8 wasn't so handholdy like Gen 7 which was mind numbing I say
Game Freak: Yeah we had to cut all Mega Evolutions, Z Crystals, and other items along with them Moders who looked through the game files: Are you sure about that?
One very interesting piece of unused content can actually be found in the actual final version of the game. And that is physical move animations for dynamax pokemon. In the final game, no matter what move the pokemon uses, it will use the special move animation, but each dynamax pokemon has an animation both for special and physical moves. Now this was probably locked to special only because of some difficulties with making the physical moves not break something - special moves are always safely cast from the distance and only the projectile needs to make contact, or maybe they didn't want to confuse the players why the animation if different for some moves if the effect is the same. But when they removed these moves from the battles, they did forget to remove them from the pokedex, so you can actually look at the physical dynamax animations in the actual finished game at least for the pokemon that have the gigantamax forms, even though it is unused content. (Shame we never got it because I really like these)
4:28 The pidgey line is not in Pokémon sword and shield. that’s the one Pokémon you missed when you were talking about Pokémon that are not in the final game by a car
Wow! I did not know we had a beta of Pokémon Sword and Shield! During the Gigaleak, everyone was talking about Luigi and Ocarina of Time, understandably, so I did not notice this. That's amazing!
The problem with just being thought of as a debug camera is that it would make sense IF they didn't go ahead and literally render everything around them too which is what you do when you have a 3D camera. For fixed camera you never both creating the full 3D environment around you that you aren't meant to see as its just a massive waste of resources. Combine that with the rotom minimap which is useful for a 3D camera does make an intentional 3D camera sound much more plausible. I do however think the camera is unfinished and thus why they never included it.
@@TheObsessiveGamer Again, the compass only appears when you use the free cam in an area that has a restricted cam, making those areas planned to have a restricted cam from the start. Rendering more than what the player should see is a very common developer trick for when the player accidentally sees a little more then what they're supposed to and incase you want to add scenes that move the camera. The minimap feature was also seen in Sun and Moon and it didn't have a free cam.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 The larger issue is that it perpetuates the widespread idea in media that all you need to make a good female character is make it pink and pop a bow on its head. It's so unimaginative and it implies that masculinity is the default. Also Rotoms are sexless, so it would pretty much mean Game Freak isn't even capable of imagining genderless intelligence, which is pretty old-fashioned
Damn, they really did lie about the reused models, even had them in game in beta. They just cut the Dex because they wanted to make more money from DLCs or other games. Kinda messed up.
Also I want Rotom Dex back. Oh, how much I loved the guy. I hope the future of Rotom helpers (dex, phone etc.) will give us at least an option to talk to it, maybe in the future version of the Camp/Refresh analog
ALSO WHERE IN THE WORLD IS FURRET IN POKEMON SWORD AND SHIELD AND WHY DID THEY REMOVE THE FURRET [also they literally removed the pokemon god what the fuck)
Aurorus actually IS in Sword and Shield, but you need the Expansion Pass to encounter it. Alternatively, you can get Aurorus without purchasing the DLC via trades.
This is covering the base game as these were there in the beta but never appeared when the game came out. DLC is separate as that's its own development process
I understand why they couldn't delay sword and shield but i hope that they change the development cycle from 3 to 4 years going forward. They've been using the same dev cycle they used to make gameboy games but they're making fully 3d hd games. I think we need a break from tradition
Fully agree. Full 3D JRPGS require at least 4-5 years nowadays to make a good game and that old mentality of 2 years of dev for 2D Pokemon just won't cut it anymore
Very informative vid. Kinda sad to see how much could have been added if they didn't have such a tight crunch and put a bit more passion into the games. Dlc has made me more optimistic (i absolutely loved crown tundra) but ig we'll have to wait and see
Yeah and I blame the lack of time for them not being able to do what they wanted. The Pokemon Company really needs to realize that it's not 2D Gameboy Pokemon which could be done in 2 years, but a full 3D JRPG that needs 4-5 years at least.
Seeing how much was cut and rushed due to time constraints and being new to all these concepts such as the wild area, I'm really excited for the (amost definitely releasing this year) remake and *especially* gen 9, which as the trend goes, should be a big imrpovement on SwSh, just like Gold and Silver, Black and White and Sun and Moon were on Red and Blue, (arguably) Diamond and Pearl and X and Y.
We'll see if we get Remakes of Gen 4 this year. The Pandemic really makes things uncertain, but I would hope taking what they learned here they can improve upon it
This story I have that I can tell is almost no where on the internet and that’s because someone who’s old Twitter account who posted about the story got banned and so their story was lost, but here’s what they said: Nintendo was trying to keep this a secret, but a fan of pokemon got at a presentation of pokemon gold and silvers trailer a cartridge that said test 3 of 20, when they played it, it was a prototype pocket monsters version of pokemon gold and Nintendo always says that there is no more pocket monsters because they renamed their title to pokemon as it was to their opinion just to simple of a title, it lacked a creative title and the called it pokemon because they thought about their theme song they were creating for the pokemon kids show and thought we can’t say Picket Monsters! Gotta catch em, gotta catch em all pocket monsters! They said that’s a stupid lyric idea, and they thought about however though about his it’s supposed to be a trainer training creatures based game who’s mission in life is to get great pokemon to battle with an become the biggest player with all of them but so the still had cartridge shells the developers at Nintendo hand created even though Nintendo at some point finally got machines to make them, they had them being hand made at first and a few of them were to supposed to be showcased demos and some of them were being talked about at the meeting rooms discussing last minute changes and such, but a fan was given a box that although said pokemon gold on it, had accidentally gotten a cartridge in the box that was written on with a black pen that said Meeting room cartridge, where it was supposed to be talked about to the staff before it was going to be officially out, the worker that gave the customer the cartridge went to the Nintendo headquarters and they eventually found out their meeting prototype cartridge was missing, they thought about where it went and they looked at all the guests in the showcasing rooms names listed and they got in touch with all of them to ask them if they had the cartridge, the guy who was given it came back with the employee and gave it to the worker, the worker said it was a mistake and that he thought the customer who obtained it was one of Nintendo’s own employees by mistake! XDDD When they played it, they said it acted as though nothing appeared on the screen for literally 5 minutes but then it went to the title screen and there was a file already made, it was a single room game though with a entry list that counted up to 300 names for pokemon to include, some of them were just voice samples of pokemon with no sprites, some were actually darker versions of missingno one of the entries showed a piece of the cartridge itself as a image for the pokemon, it was somewhere next to the battery if the cartridge that a entries image showed, one of them was some of the workers desk he was making the cartridge at, and it showed in that entry mainly a black and white style if his cubical, one of them was if 1 if his eyes, there was a half drawn image for Entai, a few of them were the unknowns alphabet, one of them actually had a cut map piece in the entries image, but it wasn’t a cut map piece, it was the room I said the character was loaded in with the whole entry list, and it was a piece of the room the trainer was in that got into the entry. When they closed the entry window, and reopened the entry window, all the names were scrambled and the names even covered the pokemon images, the stats and information dialogue, when they existed the entry again the room was covered in black and white hex values and some coding scripts wording was on the screen. When they tried to walk around, all different music played on almost every tile walked on. They got their new game cartridge mailed to them a week later and Nintendo gave them 500 Yen in an envelope for returning it.
One thing I hope for in future Pokemon games is they give an option for veteran players of the series that ups the difficulty a bit and only gives tips for newly added elements. Also I hope for a return to rivals similar to Blue and Silver, I'm sick of the overtly friendly and less agressive rival that just takes defeat lying down. Hau got on my nerves back in Alola and had no personality apart from being a perpetual and unflinching smile on legs, the group of kids you hung around in Kalos didn't add anything to the game and were completely forgettable (I can't even remember their names, and being forgettable is an even worse sin for a rival than just being annoying), and the rival from LG Eevee and Pikachu is the literal walking embodiment of all the bad perceptions people have of friendly rival characters in modern games. With Blue as a wandering NPC who occasionally guides the player, it only reinforces how poor a substitute the designated rival is by comparison. While not the absolute worst rival, Hop in Galar meanwhile was just all-around bad in terms of personality and competence as a trainer (while Hop may have changed his team up now and then to try for new strategies...c'mon, you have Zacian/Zamazenta on your team and you really choose to lead with a Dubwool instead?) Marnie had charm to her at least, and Bede was a good start in the right direction. If you ask me, the last great rival was N back in Unova. He was a challenge, had a fleshed-out personality, and he was constantly aware of the threat you presented to his goal to the point he ups his pace to make that goal a reality. Then the game climaxes with an epic battle and the revelation that Ghetsis was manipulating, and even in the sequel you can see he's conflicted about his encounters with you. Yeah...looking back on it, gen 5 really was the peak of the series in regards to storytelling.
Agreed. A hard mode that made ups everyones level by 10 would be nice. I do think this game did give us more of a "dickish" rival known as Bede for a bit, though I do think Hop was a step up from the usual friendly trainer as he still tried to be competitive still and wasn't so one dimensional, But Black and White in general are my favourite entries in the series and N truly did take the cake for a really villain rival. I did also find Cheren pretty good too as he was neither nice nor mean but still competitive. All in Gen 5's story telling and characters truly should have been always a basis for how to make a good Pokemon game and hopefully they go back to that one day.
0:36 holy cow they actually considered giving love to a past pokemon OTHER than Charizard?! It’s like there are people in Gf who actually want better games
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A super mario 64 DS beta and cut content video would be very good in my opinion its barely covered on youtube
@@chainsawgio5645 I am planning to do that eventually, so hang tight :)
@@TheObsessiveGamer yes thank you 👍👍👍
@@TheObsessiveGamer Hi.
Can i ask about a UA-camrs opinion on something?
Surely you are well aware of youtubes state and the huge amount of criticism its strike-system and the CEO of UA-cam get, right?
I would like to talk about that a bit with a big youtuber like you. Got time?
@@slevinchannel7589 I'm assuming not, considering he hasn't responded in 4 months.
How dare they take out our ability to fight Poke Ball Guy?! Apparently he was far too powerful for our mortal minds to comprehend.
The true post-game boss we deserved
Imagine if he had all the Pokeball-based Pokemon on one team!
@@WarningStrangerDanger electrode, amoonguss, voltorb, foongus.
@@thecommentato4 My man deserves no less than magearna.
@@ostensiblyaverage5576 oh yeah the Pokemon home magearna doesn’t exist outside of home
Fully controllable camera in cities and routes would be pretty cool and I wish in the final game, since they were my least favorite thing in the game.
I pray to Arceus that they implement that into the DP remakes or whatever is comming next
@@SirWeibrot to ARKOOS
@@SirWeibrot Probably not there I have a hunch that there going to use similar camera to the lets go games. Lets just hope that's all that copy from lets go.
@@SirWeibrot Imagine beliving Gamefreak and the Pokemon company wont totaly fuck up D/P remakes and make them a cheap Money grab that banks on peoples nostalgia
@@WhyThatS3rious good thing I don't believe that then
Gotta love the daycare just being a white cube that straight up says 「たまご」, as in "egg".
The placeholder simplicity is just beautiful
You can actually see Allister face in game but only on his second trainer card
Indeed, but that is only an image file, while this discovery is more the full model here.
*her*
@@thefishpeople6781 in japan he is a girl
@@Claudiu10101 his
@@Polari918 He's not. Where did you hear that?
Honestly this video just paints a picture of how rushed this game was. It seems they meant to add in alot of stuff thats been in every other pokemon game but had to cut it. Sad to think what it could have been :/
Especially with the cut pokemon and mega evolutions
I can't believe this game was in development for at least 2 years but still feels like it was made in 6 months
Well JRPGs I personally believe need a proper 5 years a of development. So 2 years kinda makes sense for what we got in comparison to fully developed JRPGs.
I say we judge them on the next installment for the switch. If it lacks then yes we can be upset but for what sword and shield was and is it's not so bad.
@@ZebraCore.... I do expect more from them next game as the trend with GF and the Pokemon Company seems to be the first game is kinda shakey on a new console but the 2nd one really takes it a good step forward since they got more time with an already made engine (ie. Gen 4->Gen5, Gen1->Gen2) Though Gen 6 to 7 was a step backwards but I blame that more on them making a lot of bad choices with Gen 7 (which they fixed by gen 8)
@@ZebraCore.... "Not so bad" are you joking? The game is fucking broken and full of reused models and animations. Poor textures and all of that. There is no excuse for the lack of quality the game has. For what Sword and Shield is, it's terrible.
@@ZebraCore.... i agree with the last statement. But as for judge them later, hell naw. They came full steam ahead charging us at full price which means they saw that mediocrity fit enough to go for that price, so we must also judge it accordingly.
i love how it zooms in on the pokeball guy's crotch
Pokeball guy knows how to assert his dominance wlel
Oh my, I wonder why all the pokemon have finished models and animations in the beta stage of the game while everything else is t-posing and the majority of the buildings are cubes. Gamefreak couldn't have just ported the entirety of the Sun/Moon Pokemon models, could they?
they DID! they just didnt add them all to the code of the game lmao
aren't the characters different?(...maybe they intially thought for example hop will be too different than hau)
The Pokemon were reused models from sun & moon but the character models were new models so t pose is just easy to start testing stuff while the animators animate all the models
i mean gamefreak has been reusing pokemon models since x&y (with some exceptions) and animations as well.
its a lot easier to do that than to model 800+ pokemon all over again for each game and wouldnt let the devs focus on more important stuff, would you really want some watered down pokemon game just with slightly better models?
im sure theyll eventually update all the models when they look outdated but as of now they all look great
@@dodothefool yeah, gamefreak future proofed the models, by making them fairly complex, which is probably why they chugged the framerate on 3DS hardware, as they were very complex models with simple textures.
Looking at this makes me truly upset for what Sword and Shield could have been if they haven't have rushed it.
Thank You for saying this more people need to say that Pokemon Sword and Shield wasn't "lazy"... Pokemon Sword and Shield was rushed...
@@grimsongreen3217 so your saying a game that was already in development during US/UM was rushed *LOL*
@@Yusei255 For the range of content it could've had plus how few relatively are working on the project, I say 2 years isn't enough .
@@zjzr08 you do know they were working on sword and shield even before development of UM/US started.
so that's at least close to 5 not 2 years
@@Yusei255 USUM was out in 2017, the game released in 2019 - also an Ohmori interview in the Game Freak site said they may had started the project in September 2017.
Ball guy T posing is the most menacing thing that I have ever seen
One of those horror games at night only it's just Ball guy t-posing from shadows.
*Pokémon T-Pose Version, and Pokémon Cornered Version, coming out in 2059!!!*
This would be the one time I buy both versions :P
So gamefreak had the models from sun and moon, so obviously they'd have the animations, code, sounds and moves since its a copy and paste.
And they said they didn't have time to add them? mmhmmm suuuure.
Well if you look at some of the models like Greninjas eyes, there are some problems clearly with the models, which wouldn't need too much work to fix, but with how short development time was for a full scaled "JRPG" here, it might be why it didn't happen.... still doesn't explain the others that were clearly in full working order though like Ekans and Arbok
Yeah game freak was just being too damn lazy!
@@kawaiicrossing5047 Or it could also be imposed crunch from Nintendo, too. The game was clearly rushed.
@@TornaitSuperBird That was probably it but everyone is pretty quick to blame game freak without looking at all the possibilities of what happened.
@Liyt I didn't mean it like that.
I remember reading somewhere that the 'giant toxitricity' was meant to be a gigantimax battle - that Toxi was likely intended originally to be the mascot pokemon, like Lucario or Zoroark in prior games, and that something changed that it was removed (it being mascot, not the 'mon itself) or they just didn't have time and cut it.
Given the state of the final product, though, I'd say SWSH just had a rushed development cycle...
The Giant Toxtricity was definitely a statue there as it was part of the environment but I can see it being the mascot based on design alone. We do have a Gigantimax Toxtricity regardless though
It's so cursed to hear "Town" and "City" added to the ends of the settlement names from Galar, after getting used to them having removed it in English.
You can battle your own mom!?!
*gasp*
What if she was the true champion of the region!
When you lose and are grounded as punishment
Cue Pokemon Clover
Those beta Gym Leader tracks were really funky, shame they didn't get used. Great video!!
If they used the beta theme you'll just say Game Freak is lazy like other people because it has used sound tracks from other places.
Lol, I love how so much of this looks like a Roblox map
Pokemon Brick Bronze is the first thing that popped up in my mind.
@@shadelunatic2156 yet even THAT game had more effort put into it
like
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more
Pokémon brick bronze was nearly complete the elite four was almost done but the game got the dreaded Nintendo cease and desist
Such a shame GameFreak's development cycle seems to still revolve around 2D development.
3D games take longer and are more expensive to develop, but they still seem to have a really short dev cycle that constantly makes them cut on content, reuse assets, and overall cut corners just to get it relatively finished.
Makes you wonder what these last few gens could've been like if they had an extra year or two of development
The problem is the Pokemon Company gives them too little time to work on these as they want them out as quick as 2D Pokemon. They need at least 3-5 years for a 3D JRPG to be good imo
I completely agree. Fastest growing in complexity and scale the cycle gets tighter and they have to sacrifice more ro focus on priorities like the Pokémon, characters, and muaic. Gen 9 made this clearer than ever
ideas for a video:
- pokemon sun/moon/US/UM leak source code
-Watch dog legion leak source code
remembre take you time to investigate all the data and try to cover all
Well Pokemon Gen 7 is something i'd like to cover eventually, so definitely noted there. Watch Dogs maybe I can in the future too and of course i'l plan to investigate well before making a video as usual. Thanks for the suggestions!
Imagine if Pokemon Ruby and sapphires source code was released and I could somehow Port it to the Sega Saturn
@@superbroly64DS
I want the source code of Fallout 2 and ported to phones and my 3ds
Honestly, I find the Idea of battling your own Mother really cool and creative. I don't think our Parents ever played a significant Role outside of.....Ruby and Saphire I believe?
Yeah Gen 3 was the last time they played a major role. Though I still think she'd probably be more a tutorial battle
@@TheObsessiveGamer Probably. But it would still be really cool. 😊
@@TheObsessiveGamerIt could be actually a really neat thing if mom was the one teaching you a major thing in that made-up world
Kinda like it happens in real life
But with taxes :(
The tree with no collision at about 2:04 was a berry tree in the final game.
Wow if this is how the game looked like a year (more or less) before release it really shows how rushed the game was
S/S was not rushed they had at least close to 5 years work time on it, cos it was in development even before ultra sun ultra moon came out for the 3ds
@@Yusei255it was rushed
@@GameFreakSucks sword and shield was not rushed, they were working on it for atleast 3 or more years, as they started development while they were developing US/UM
@@Yusei255 you just regurgitated your previous reply
When the beta version has more Pokémon than the final release
Not really, datamine showed that beta had only 20 of them
@@Pitrek1113 Also they were primarily pokemon from the start of the alphabet. Amaura, Arbok, Aerodactyl, Beedrill, Blastoise. It was clear they just grabbed like 20 junk models to use as testers before actually implementing them.
But that doesn't fit the "hurr durr game freak bad" narrative, so people ignore it.
@@Pitrek1113 Random, i know, but whatever:
Hey, you know how people nowadays
complain about UA-cam a lot? And about its
CEO and striking-system and all?!
Well, here's my take on that:
Yes, yes, complaining about
UA-cam is nice and dandy.
BUT here's the shocker: You can also
act. Not just complain, but act.
Yeah, no kidding, its possible.
I for myself wanted to act, so i gathered and
confirmed Links leading to Racists, Sexists, Mobber, Porn, Bullies,
Karens, etc,
and all the other stuff that simply and obviously
does not belong on UA-cam.
And i dropped them all on some self-made Wikis.
Sorry for the long and random comment, but i
think you get why i wrote this. At least i hope you
get it.
I'm not a big speech-maker, so this comment is probably not enough - so ask all the questions you have.
@@bradley4615 Yes, whata your point????
@@Pitrek1113 They were passed over to thr dlc, so it may prove that they actually did more work to add the pokemon. But I still think they under finance their pokemon games...call of duty spends 500 million, I bet gamefreak uses wayy less money on their sword and shield games.
Btw a small error in this. Peonia is a trainer class for Dynamax Adventures as she appears as a partner. It was never intended as a fight
0:13 ball guy t-pose
Edit(s):
I wish the 360 camera made it into the final cut
I like the unused jingle it might have been used for the title screen or the resume save
360 camera I bet could have made people more forgiving of the game too
The map on the bottom is from Alola game
Great video but I'm honestly don't think the 3D camera ever meant to be for the full game. The way the areas were designed feel too skinny to compliment 3D camera rotation. I personally think they had the 3D rotation for developing purposes. I've seen many cases where objects that are never fully seen in the game end up having full textures. That are there are clearly huge empty areas in the places we can't usually view, kinda showing they never planned for the full 3D rotation. That's my take on it.
EDIT: Also, the hand feature in camp eventually was used for the feather toy you use from the looks of it. And the cut trainers seem pretty iffy. The characters could just maybe have code for fighting maybe?
I personally think the 3D camera was originally intended simply because the entire around area the character was made and rendered in full detail, which we can see clearly in Hulbury city and Postwick city for example when the camera spins here. The in-house stuff however I do agree probably were meant to stay static since the other side of the house is not rendered. If anything I think they wanted a full 3D camera but didn't know where to place it yet so they made everything around the player and then decided to lock the camera in the end.
As for the hand in the camp, in this mode the hand was used for everything including petting your Pokemon and throwing a ball even as seen there.
Cut Trainer wise the characters didn't have code for fighting simply, these were literal trainer classes with a model assigned to the trainer classes there. Thus there was some intention to use these at one point before scrapped
I think it was more likely removed for performance reasons. 360° cameras and low/choppy frame rates induce disorientation and motion sickness.
@@WarningStrangerDanger Doubt that since it's in the wild area(s) where online has NPCs spawn in and stuff.
Though the Wild Area is significantly less detailed and much more barren.@@EvyDevy
@@WarningStrangerDanger True though having a free roam camera even with online wouldn't make the game look choppy with no NPCs and not being as big/alive as the wild area now that I think about it. The areas are was too linear for 3D camera imo for that anyway.
As much as I want DP remakes I'm really curious to know what a Sw/Sh 2 would look like if the devs spent 2 more years actually polishing the game and adding the things they wanted
A more polished sequel with everything in wild area mode and maybe extension into beyond Galar, like Kalos would be nice too.
@@TheObsessiveGamer even if they just put all the dlcs in with like 1 or 2 more towns into the base game, I really wanna see like Ballonlea but fully and controllable camera in motostoke and that big city up top would be nice. I wouldn't mind straight line routes if they were bigger and actually had places to explore which would hopefully happen cause a controllable camera in a straight route would be sad
@@TheObsessiveGamer another thing that would be subtle but amazing would be seamless transition from the overworld into buildings ik it wouldn't be huge but it would feel so good, even if it was similar to octopath Traveller where u can see the character walk in and stuff rather than just blackscreen
There is more stuff in the beta than the final game... wow...
The Pokemon on the title screen might not have been cut Pokemon, but just placeholders, never intended to be in the games.
You actually missed a unused song. Its called the Placeholder Track. It is found pretty much everywhere in the beta files. Even though i am absolutely mortified by the track i would still recommend you check it out
Oh my God, fighting Chairman Rose in his shorts would have been hilarious. lol
Not exactly sure how reliable this is, but...
On the internal box art of the NA/PAL versions of the games is a full map of Galar, on that map you can see that the wild area was originally supposed to go further to the left with a little beach and a bridge for the train. But I cannot say whether it's cut content or just poor communication with the art teams.
Someone needs to make a mod to unlock the camera
To whoever mods this game further, please do so.
train "survice"
I like that unused gym leader battle arrangement.
I also like how the camera works with the T-Pose Pokeball Guy battle lol
Therapist: T-Pose Ballguy don't exist. He can't hurt you
T-pose Ballguy: 0:15
It would be cool to fight sonia, professor magnolia, peonia and ball guy
I just found this channel and it's underrated
Thank you! :) we are growing so hopefully won't be underrated for too much longer
same haha
Same
@@TheObsessiveGamer same
I wonder why beta builds always look so much cooler than final releases.
No need to worry about console limitations so they let their imaginations run wild before downscaling I imagine.
@@TheObsessiveGamer I remember that being a huge problem for so many early 3D games.
This is neat. I just hope they up the scale next time around and personally do away with dynamax and the other versions of battle "enhancements" and also take away the hand holding or at least give us a setting like I'm a veteran player I dont want help.
I don't mind the battle enhancements really. Dynamax/Gigantamax being a boss Pokemon still is viable in a competitive setting too I say. At least Gen 8 wasn't so handholdy like Gen 7 which was mind numbing I say
@@TheObsessiveGamer are you kidding? Gen 8 was WAAAAY worse.
Mega evolutions are awesome
@@markthomaskiec2453 what are you talkin about ?, Every single tutorial in the game is skipable.
The pidgey line wasn't in the final game either but he totally ignored it. Poor pidgey.
The unused eternatus arrangements reminds me of gen 6
Kinda reminds me of the Gen 4 Arceus actually
Cut Mom Material: you dare try to leave the house without your running shoes, dear?
X,D
wow, kinda odd how all these beta and unused assets look just about as good as the stuff in the finalized game! you dont see that too often
Unknown jingle sounds like what a 3ds plays when youd highlight a game/app on it, in otherwords, sword/shield were most likely 3ds games initially
Game Freak: Yeah we had to cut all Mega Evolutions, Z Crystals, and other items along with them
Moders who looked through the game files: Are you sure about that?
"unsused and cut content from Pokemon Sword/Shield"
Oh yeah, i think they forgot about the Dex tho
12:18 With that smile and look, thats not Pikachu, but Mimikyu
Everytime i hear the battle tower theme i keep thinking of homestuck's The baby is you that toby made/then remixed for the game lol
there actually is a "Toby Fox" in the music credits.
@@PikaDogg Yes. He made the battle tower theme.
@@PikaDogg . . . are u not aware
t-posing ball guy is too powerful
mannnnn the 360 camera routes would of made the game so unique and cool. Instead we get the 2d/3d hybrid which makes everything flat and boring.
Indeed. Could have been really the tool that showed off how this truly was an evolution of the series
the maskless allister model is used in his league card
Yeah but that's a 2D image. This is his full 3D model being like that
One very interesting piece of unused content can actually be found in the actual final version of the game. And that is physical move animations for dynamax pokemon. In the final game, no matter what move the pokemon uses, it will use the special move animation, but each dynamax pokemon has an animation both for special and physical moves. Now this was probably locked to special only because of some difficulties with making the physical moves not break something - special moves are always safely cast from the distance and only the projectile needs to make contact, or maybe they didn't want to confuse the players why the animation if different for some moves if the effect is the same.
But when they removed these moves from the battles, they did forget to remove them from the pokedex, so you can actually look at the physical dynamax animations in the actual finished game at least for the pokemon that have the gigantamax forms, even though it is unused content. (Shame we never got it because I really like these)
I like the zoom in on the Pokeball guy's "pokeballs".
No Ace Trainer class even originally, because I read it currently isn't there.
4:28 The pidgey line is not in Pokémon sword and shield. that’s the one Pokémon you missed when you were talking about Pokémon that are not in the final game by a car
Wow! I did not know we had a beta of Pokémon Sword and Shield! During the Gigaleak, everyone was talking about Luigi and Ocarina of Time, understandably, so I did not notice this. That's amazing!
Yeah this one came out only a little bit after the Gigaleak so it somewhat went under the radar.
This channel deserve more subs
Thank you! We are still growing, hopefully will keep doing so.
That's a debug cam. Notice the 3 lines coming off your character when you activate the free cam in a cam restricted area like routes and houses.
The problem with just being thought of as a debug camera is that it would make sense IF they didn't go ahead and literally render everything around them too which is what you do when you have a 3D camera. For fixed camera you never both creating the full 3D environment around you that you aren't meant to see as its just a massive waste of resources. Combine that with the rotom minimap which is useful for a 3D camera does make an intentional 3D camera sound much more plausible.
I do however think the camera is unfinished and thus why they never included it.
@@TheObsessiveGamer
Again, the compass only appears when you use the free cam in an area that has a restricted cam, making those areas planned to have a restricted cam from the start.
Rendering more than what the player should see is a very common developer trick for when the player accidentally sees a little more then what they're supposed to and incase you want to add scenes that move the camera.
The minimap feature was also seen in Sun and Moon and it didn't have a free cam.
The placeholder trees kinda look letter than the final ones
i wish they kept the rotom mini map, so we won't have to constantly go check the map
2:00 i am sure that tree was used to clip out of the map in the actual game lol
i rolled my eyes so incredibly hard at that "female rotom"
It's a cute design though but I don't see why they need to always differentiate the boys from the girls so obviously. At least it didn't have titties
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 Imagine if it possessed your electric Devices!
"Honey, why does our Fridge have Tits now?"
Yeah, I'm really glad it was cut. I'd rather play as a boy than have to stare at that abomination all the time.
@@Sanorace Hey it's cute. Just unnecessary
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 The larger issue is that it perpetuates the widespread idea in media that all you need to make a good female character is make it pink and pop a bow on its head. It's so unimaginative and it implies that masculinity is the default.
Also Rotoms are sexless, so it would pretty much mean Game Freak isn't even capable of imagining genderless intelligence, which is pretty old-fashioned
About the allister model. His face was shown in the release game in his rare league card
Indeed, but that is only an image file, while this discovery is more the full model here.
@@TheObsessiveGamer you right
That pink Rotom kinda looks like a jellyfish from SpongeBob.
this version is barely over the alpha version, they had only this in 2018? no wonder everything was cut.
Short dev time does that especially for a JRPG
Miss Pokemon center
What happened to nurse Joy
She exists in the anime only. Game Nurse is nameless lol
@@TheObsessiveGamer ohhh that makes sense
@@TheObsessiveGamer The nurses of games are also not cousins. Like in B2W2, the protagonists mom was a nurse in Nimbasa town
Damn, they really did lie about the reused models, even had them in game in beta. They just cut the Dex because they wanted to make more money from DLCs or other games. Kinda messed up.
gonna be the same with the D/P remakes this year, it's not gonna have a full national dex and there's gonna be more cut pokemon.
they didn't that just came from ohmori from 1 INTERVIEW whose statement wasn't clear to most people which lead to misunderstanding
Also I want Rotom Dex back. Oh, how much I loved the guy.
I hope the future of Rotom helpers (dex, phone etc.) will give us at least an option to talk to it, maybe in the future version of the Camp/Refresh analog
ALSO WHERE IN THE WORLD IS FURRET IN POKEMON SWORD AND SHIELD AND WHY DID THEY REMOVE THE FURRET [also they literally removed the pokemon god what the fuck)
I'm sad we can't pet our pokemon in pokemon camp. :( And some of those tracks and major unused trainer battles seamed cool
At 00:53, the placeholder for the Pokemon breeder's can be seen, at the top reads in Japanese, "TAMAGO", which is the word for "EGG"
Aurorus actually IS in Sword and Shield, but you need the Expansion Pass to encounter it. Alternatively, you can get Aurorus without purchasing the DLC via trades.
This is covering the base game as these were there in the beta but never appeared when the game came out. DLC is separate as that's its own development process
They probably removed the minimap cuz they realized the game is too linear to need one
Hmm i wonder if they'll bring the fully rotating camera in a future game, like in a free-roaming open-world type pokemon game?
If the DLC is any indication, maybe so?
12:30 for a second I thought he gonna say "and it sucks" lol
Nah I got other videos that allude to that already lol
@@TheObsessiveGamer haha
@@TheObsessiveGamer and thank ls for the ❤️
dude thanks again
I was looking forward to this for so long. Amazing video !
Thank you!
The gym stadium having collision could be for certain pokemon to know where the floor is
I understand why they couldn't delay sword and shield but i hope that they change the development cycle from 3 to 4 years going forward. They've been using the same dev cycle they used to make gameboy games but they're making fully 3d hd games. I think we need a break from tradition
Fully agree. Full 3D JRPGS require at least 4-5 years nowadays to make a good game and that old mentality of 2 years of dev for 2D Pokemon just won't cut it anymore
Interesting Ball Guy view 9:30 😳
Very informative vid. Kinda sad to see how much could have been added if they didn't have such a tight crunch and put a bit more passion into the games. Dlc has made me more optimistic (i absolutely loved crown tundra) but ig we'll have to wait and see
Yeah and I blame the lack of time for them not being able to do what they wanted. The Pokemon Company really needs to realize that it's not 2D Gameboy Pokemon which could be done in 2 years, but a full 3D JRPG that needs 4-5 years at least.
i dont know why but seeing the applin gave me anxiety
The full game still feels like a beta anyway lmao
I'm so blown away right now.
Even though seeing some of these things does hurt.
Yeah I felt that way while making this video, especially once I saw how nice the world looked with that 3D camera enabled.
I love how Sonia's default expression is the >_< one.
Seeing how much was cut and rushed due to time constraints and being new to all these concepts such as the wild area, I'm really excited for the (amost definitely releasing this year) remake and *especially* gen 9, which as the trend goes, should be a big imrpovement on SwSh, just like Gold and Silver, Black and White and Sun and Moon were on Red and Blue, (arguably) Diamond and Pearl and X and Y.
We'll see if we get Remakes of Gen 4 this year. The Pandemic really makes things uncertain, but I would hope taking what they learned here they can improve upon it
bro, do i see furfrou in that wild area?? why isnt it in the final game??
Pokémon team needs more devs FR
Wait, I'm just now noticing this is nico bbq
A lot seem to, but it's not lol Also I don't think I got his accent on me lol
lol
This story I have that I can tell is almost no where on the internet and that’s because someone who’s old Twitter account who posted about the story got banned and so their story was lost, but here’s what they said:
Nintendo was trying to keep this a secret, but a fan of pokemon got at a presentation of pokemon gold and silvers trailer a cartridge that said test 3 of 20, when they played it, it was a prototype pocket monsters version of pokemon gold and Nintendo always says that there is no more pocket monsters because they renamed their title to pokemon as it was to their opinion just to simple of a title, it lacked a creative title and the called it pokemon because they thought about their theme song they were creating for the pokemon kids show and thought we can’t say Picket Monsters! Gotta catch em, gotta catch em all pocket monsters! They said that’s a stupid lyric idea, and they thought about however though about his it’s supposed to be a trainer training creatures based game who’s mission in life is to get great pokemon to battle with an become the biggest player with all of them but so the still had cartridge shells the developers at Nintendo hand created even though Nintendo at some point finally got machines to make them, they had them being hand made at first and a few of them were to supposed to be showcased demos and some of them were being talked about at the meeting rooms discussing last minute changes and such, but a fan was given a box that although said pokemon gold on it, had accidentally gotten a cartridge in the box that was written on with a black pen that said Meeting room cartridge, where it was supposed to be talked about to the staff before it was going to be officially out, the worker that gave the customer the cartridge went to the Nintendo headquarters and they eventually found out their meeting prototype cartridge was missing, they thought about where it went and they looked at all the guests in the showcasing rooms names listed and they got in touch with all of them to ask them if they had the cartridge, the guy who was given it came back with the employee and gave it to the worker, the worker said it was a mistake and that he thought the customer who obtained it was one of Nintendo’s own employees by mistake! XDDD When they played it, they said it acted as though nothing appeared on the screen for literally 5 minutes but then it went to the title screen and there was a file already made, it was a single room game though with a entry list that counted up to 300 names for pokemon to include, some of them were just voice samples of pokemon with no sprites, some were actually darker versions of missingno one of the entries showed a piece of the cartridge itself as a image for the pokemon, it was somewhere next to the battery if the cartridge that a entries image showed, one of them was some of the workers desk he was making the cartridge at, and it showed in that entry mainly a black and white style if his cubical, one of them was if 1 if his eyes, there was a half drawn image for Entai, a few of them were the unknowns alphabet, one of them actually had a cut map piece in the entries image, but it wasn’t a cut map piece, it was the room I said the character was loaded in with the whole entry list, and it was a piece of the room the trainer was in that got into the entry.
When they closed the entry window, and reopened the entry window, all the names were scrambled and the names even covered the pokemon images, the stats and information dialogue, when they existed the entry again the room was covered in black and white hex values and some coding scripts wording was on the screen.
When they tried to walk around, all different music played on almost every tile walked on.
They got their new game cartridge mailed to them a week later and Nintendo gave them 500 Yen in an envelope for returning it.
I greatly appreciate this video. I must say though, this is more of a pre-alpha than a beta, but very good nonetheless.
Wow the fact they purposly took away Greninja, Ekans, Arbok, and more is ridiculous when they already had them in the game
One thing I hope for in future Pokemon games is they give an option for veteran players of the series that ups the difficulty a bit and only gives tips for newly added elements. Also I hope for a return to rivals similar to Blue and Silver, I'm sick of the overtly friendly and less agressive rival that just takes defeat lying down. Hau got on my nerves back in Alola and had no personality apart from being a perpetual and unflinching smile on legs, the group of kids you hung around in Kalos didn't add anything to the game and were completely forgettable (I can't even remember their names, and being forgettable is an even worse sin for a rival than just being annoying), and the rival from LG Eevee and Pikachu is the literal walking embodiment of all the bad perceptions people have of friendly rival characters in modern games. With Blue as a wandering NPC who occasionally guides the player, it only reinforces how poor a substitute the designated rival is by comparison. While not the absolute worst rival, Hop in Galar meanwhile was just all-around bad in terms of personality and competence as a trainer (while Hop may have changed his team up now and then to try for new strategies...c'mon, you have Zacian/Zamazenta on your team and you really choose to lead with a Dubwool instead?) Marnie had charm to her at least, and Bede was a good start in the right direction.
If you ask me, the last great rival was N back in Unova. He was a challenge, had a fleshed-out personality, and he was constantly aware of the threat you presented to his goal to the point he ups his pace to make that goal a reality. Then the game climaxes with an epic battle and the revelation that Ghetsis was manipulating, and even in the sequel you can see he's conflicted about his encounters with you. Yeah...looking back on it, gen 5 really was the peak of the series in regards to storytelling.
Agreed. A hard mode that made ups everyones level by 10 would be nice. I do think this game did give us more of a "dickish" rival known as Bede for a bit, though I do think Hop was a step up from the usual friendly trainer as he still tried to be competitive still and wasn't so one dimensional,
But Black and White in general are my favourite entries in the series and N truly did take the cake for a really villain rival. I did also find Cheren pretty good too as he was neither nice nor mean but still competitive. All in Gen 5's story telling and characters truly should have been always a basis for how to make a good Pokemon game and hopefully they go back to that one day.
@@TheObsessiveGamer Hop at least had a story arc, which is a step up from Hau and the lame Kalos dorks. I can appreciate that at least.
Dude I SO wish that they let us rotate the camera everywhere
The beta Wild Area trees are looking just as good and polished as the finished product
0:36 holy cow they actually considered giving love to a past pokemon OTHER than Charizard?! It’s like there are people in Gf who actually want better games
normal games' beta stuff: oh im glad they cut that
pokemon's beta stuff: WHY WHY DID THEY CUT THAT CONCEPT IT WAS SO GOOD MAN
I don't know, there's questionable stuff they cut from other games too but yeah this game had some stuff they really shouldn't have cut
I was waiting for this one
Hope you enjoyed it!
his mask being taken off isnt that surprising as allisters second card shows allister without her mask
Yeah but that's a 2D jpg. Here is a full 3D model doing that now :P
@@TheObsessiveGamer That doesnt make since pokemon dont wear masks meaning they had to model the mask in