Amazing loco and I love the extra bits they included along with it! I didn't know Rivarossi was even in existence still until I happened to buy an Arnold N gauge loco one time - Looks like they produce some very good quality products!
Fabulous addition to an international collection like yours (ours). Really nicely done for the price range. Love the packaging and the premiums. Hope you enjoy this for a long time!
Built and delivered just before the attack on Pearl Harbor, 1941. Twenty five of these were distributed throughout the oil, coal, steel and production hubs around the U.S. Hauling raw materials and finished product - 24 hours a day, without a day off until the end of 1945. Then, slowly replaced with General Electric engines until the last, the only one remaining was retired - #4014. I'm so glad to see this on a proper layout. Thank you for sharing...
Actually, Union Pacific ran the Big Boy's mostly between Cheyenne, Wyoming where they were shopped and maintained, and Ogden, Utah. They were designed as a larger replacement for the 4-6-6-4 Challenger's and were intended to pull heavy freight trains over the Wasatch mountains, over the continental divide. They occasionally made it a bit further east or west, but Cheyenne to Ogden was their normal operating territory. There is rumor that UP was originally planning to name these engines Wasatch, in honor of the grades they were designed to conquer. An anonymous employee at Alco, the builder of the Big Boy's, wrote "Big Boy" on the first locomotive and the name stuck.
I am so tempted by these, more so after your review. My only worry (apart from the cost) is that really it probably needs to be DCC to get the full benefit out of it and I don't do DCC. The other concern is if it would get around my curves, do you have any sharp ones you could try it on and show us?
well i think its still a great model running in DC. it can do radius 1 curves according to Hattons but i will be doing another video on it soon and ill try it on my sharp ones
Great video of this monster. A very nice model of what 4014 looked like when it was built in 1941 (with the after-coolers on the front and a coal tender). I love mine. I believe they made this a limited run. It runs very smoothly.
The tender plug is for the back up light. All the DCC electronics are in the boiler including the speaker under the stacks. The tender was not redesigned due to the cost of new the new die required. The tender is a one piece tubular type with glued on end caps.
I'm here in the United States. I have always loved steam locomotives. I'm glad that the Union Pacific has restored the 4014. They also restored a Challenger that is a 4-6-6-4 type a few years earlier. I'm also happy to see that many railroad companies are restoring their old steam locomotives back to life.
It's not RR companies..It's private voluntary restoration clubs bringing them back.. I do wish though that Amtrak would have a regular say twice a year excursion train with steam on the point....It'd be great to see full fledged steam passenger trains the public could buy tickets for instead of club members only on them...
I could not tell if it has the air compressor. It is on the right side below the smoke box. It looks like two finned cylinders sitting vertically as a pair. The run slowly all the time it is sitting still and quickly after braking. Good review. I’ve stood 8 feet from the monster in steam. Correction, I got a good view and they are missing so that is a big knock.
A little explanation on the tender situation. The tender the locomotive is currently touring with was borrowed from UP Challenger 3985 which is also part of Union Pacific's preserved fleet. While the coal is correct for the locomotive's original run in service I do wish they had an option to buy one Challenger tender for people who want to model its current return as a preserved locomotive like Athearn has done with their N scale Big Boy.
Ah.... The Big Boy! Very nice. I’m in the US and have loved the last few months of it’s being shown off throughout the country. There are some really great videos out there. Check ‘em out. See ya next time.
matt slade As mentioned, decoder (with 21 pins) is in loco, so the two pins wiring the tender to the loco would not be enough. Also, the speaker is not fitted to the loco, so will need fitting. Chance for an EM2? Should be enough room! Also, note that the connecting rods are in sync; the real loco has nothing to link the two, so the model will need adjustment! Lovely loco, loving mine, just gathering Armory yellow paint for some cars to match!
Very attractive looking "big boy" model, this special collector edition locomotive has spectacular details & the Union Pacific rr has gained massive publicity with the restoration of UP 4014.
matt slade As mentioned, decoder (with 21 pins) is in loco, so the two pins wiring the tender to the loco would not be enough. Also, the speaker is not fitted to the loco, so will need fitting. Chance for an EM2? Should be enough room! Also, note that the connecting rods are in sync; the real loco has nothing to link the two, so the model will need adjustment! Lovely loco, loving mine, just gathering Armory yellow paint for some cars to match!
You were correct, the Big Boy 4014 was converted to run on oil. Coal is limited in short supply and oil is easily transported in tank cars that the 4014 has behind it when out on the rails.
well i was worried about the curves when you first showed us. but seemed to run well. give her a good break in period and lets get some rail cars after her. she is a beauty of a beast.
Hi matt slade l'm writing this now just to see your review I had to have the motor replaced cos the motor was notching and I think rivarossi/hornby could of done better.
Yes I have just taken delivery of this loco looks great going for dcc sound but how do you get the body apart and I also here the tender can be a pain to open also,
Thanks for your message but how do separate to loco from the chassis so I can get access to the 21 pin plug Hornby sheet is not very clearthanks robert
It appears to be modeled on the original, before conversion to oil, hence the coal tender. I won't swear to it, but I believe there was also a major modification to the firebox during conversion. Still, very nice loco. I would expect a Rivarossi to run very quietly.
Definitely a big loco. Does the lack of cab detail reduces the cost? But it is highly detailed I would like to see it go round 1st radius bends Keep safe arp
The Riva 4014 is not the today version for sure, but its the delivered version 1941/ 1942 and for that is this 4014 correct. At the end the BB is over 40 years old and i think today even good enough if someone want one to drive and no paying much as other Companys want. I have one Big Boy from Trix and Athearn Genesis and i wait for the new Riva 4014 with oil Tender. :)
Well Matthew what can I say um very BIG indeed and coming out of that tunnel well there is no room for mistakes it did take on the curves very well and that coupling at the back of the tender well hear in the uk the EWS red coal wagons have them. So what marks will I give it ? well oil or coal it dose not mater as it's a full 10 out of 10 and the size well every platform in the uk would be damage and also it be out of gauge as well. James Joseph JJ Dyer
The number board should be lit and a bad commission on another wise fine model. My Italian made Big Boy is old but I love the look of it and its smooth running which goes for my other Rivarossi loco. I have a review in an American model railroad magazine where they dismantle the model they are testing to appraise it, however when they saw the complexity of the exploded parts they decided against it! A double header would be most impressive if they actually happened.
Rivarossi has modelled it as per the original to celebrate it's 60 Years, Rivarossi hasn't modelled it as per the prototype it is today...hence no "oil-fired" locomotive.
I do believe the Rivarissi "Big Boy" still the cheapest (simplest) Big Boy on the market! Can't tell witch one is better or worse than the other but I would place my bet on Broadway Limited or Trix to be the best detailed!
Oh my god Matt. Imagine if it was 00 gauge, that small difference in scale would be ridiculous. Kinda want one, but I want many things so nothing new there.
Thumbs up for the loco and the review. Mine is a year old but just as smooth out of the box. You skipped over sound; it is a DCC loco, isn't it? Thanks.
It does look to be an improvement over the old Rivarossi Big Boy but I think you were generous with your 8 out of 10. Lacking in detail on the body, little and unpainted cab detail and a big error on the coal tender vs. an oil burner tender I'd only give it a 7. Also, we North Americans tend to say the number as Four Zero One Four not Forty Fourteen and the front end has a pilot not a cow catcher. Thanks for your review Matt. Cheers, David.
Well done Matt, and I recommend DCC Sound. My Trix is already 12 or 13 years old, made of diecast metal and is still like new because I hardly touch it and it only runs occasionally. It just gets around this British layout. Only just ! Cheers ! ua-cam.com/video/ICSCJjKYO5M/v-deo.html
Can't believe Hornby are getting away with selling this 50 year old model which apart from the motor / gearbox hasn't been updated since the beginning, and the cheek to change over £300! - sorry but i think it's a bad model... Just 4 Plunger pick-ups, plastic slide bars and chunky details i think they are robbing us blind!
Even though this does look like a good model I'd still say the MTH version is better, £200 more gets you a diecast loco, sound, and a synchronized fan assisted smoke unit
Rossi is so off to the 4014 it isn't funny...4014 doesn't have the cooling coils on the front hand rails...don't have duel dynamo's . No roof top antenna ,,the side rods are silver not black ...body is supposed to be gloss black with while chalk marking big boy on the front of the smoke box. ..silver on the tender and rear trucks bearing caps. . That loco isn't worth no 600.....the only one that hits the nail on the head on true details of the 4014 is the trix big boy...that even have the up logo with 4014 on the cab floor. And the tender should have the oil tender too and not the coal...ps athearn is better and have the tsunami 2 sound for 100-150 more then Rossi....it's worth it ..
Amazing loco and I love the extra bits they included along with it!
I didn't know Rivarossi was even in existence still until I happened to buy an Arnold N gauge loco one time - Looks like they produce some very good quality products!
Rivarossi have been around for a long time and they do some good models
Fabulous addition to an international collection like yours (ours). Really nicely done for the price range. Love the packaging and the premiums. Hope you enjoy this for a long time!
yeah so good to have one again on the layout
What a stunning loco!!!!! Absolutely fabulous!! Awesome review! Cheers Onno.
Thanks Onno
Built and delivered just before the attack on Pearl Harbor, 1941. Twenty five of these were distributed throughout the oil, coal, steel and production hubs around the U.S. Hauling raw materials and finished product - 24 hours a day, without a day off until the end of 1945. Then, slowly replaced with General Electric engines until the last, the only one remaining was retired - #4014. I'm so glad to see this on a proper layout.
Thank you for sharing...
Thanks very much for the info. its good to no a bit more about these locos
Actually, Union Pacific ran the Big Boy's mostly between Cheyenne, Wyoming where they were shopped and maintained, and Ogden, Utah. They were designed as a larger replacement for the 4-6-6-4 Challenger's and were intended to pull heavy freight trains over the Wasatch mountains, over the continental divide. They occasionally made it a bit further east or west, but Cheyenne to Ogden was their normal operating territory. There is rumor that UP was originally planning to name these engines Wasatch, in honor of the grades they were designed to conquer. An anonymous employee at Alco, the builder of the Big Boy's, wrote "Big Boy" on the first locomotive and the name stuck.
Very impressed and enjoy seeing you on screen.
Thanks David
I am so tempted by these, more so after your review. My only worry (apart from the cost) is that really it probably needs to be DCC to get the full benefit out of it and I don't do DCC. The other concern is if it would get around my curves, do you have any sharp ones you could try it on and show us?
well i think its still a great model running in DC. it can do radius 1 curves according to Hattons but i will be doing another video on it soon and ill try it on my sharp ones
Great video of this monster. A very nice model of what 4014 looked like when it was built in 1941 (with the after-coolers on the front and a coal tender). I love mine. I believe they made this a limited run. It runs very smoothly.
It is absolutely great, well done Rivarossi/Hornby. The detail is great and it is big. Nice running out of the box. No complaints there, Matt.
it is a good model. Thanks Nigel
The tender plug is for the back up light. All the DCC electronics are in the boiler including the speaker under the stacks. The tender was not redesigned due to the cost of new the new die required. The tender is a one piece tubular type with glued on end caps.
Great video Matt it is a great looking loco
Thanks David
That engine sure is a beast. Very awesome indeed.
Hi Matt. A really beautiful model and it runs so smoothly. Regards George....
Thanks George
Yes it goes round 1st rad. but it does look odd as the chassis is the full loco length offsets the front engine bogie .
I'm here in the United States. I have always loved steam locomotives. I'm glad that the Union Pacific has restored the 4014. They also restored a Challenger that is a 4-6-6-4 type a few years earlier. I'm also happy to see that many railroad companies are restoring their old steam locomotives back to life.
It's not RR companies..It's private voluntary restoration clubs bringing them back.. I do wish though that Amtrak would have a regular say twice a year excursion train with steam on the point....It'd be great to see full fledged steam passenger trains the public could buy tickets for instead of club members only on them...
I could not tell if it has the air compressor. It is on the right side below the smoke box. It looks like two finned cylinders sitting vertically as a pair. The run slowly all the time it is sitting still and quickly after braking. Good review. I’ve stood 8 feet from the monster in steam. Correction, I got a good view and they are missing so that is a big knock.
A little explanation on the tender situation. The tender the locomotive is currently touring with was borrowed from UP Challenger 3985 which is also part of Union Pacific's preserved fleet. While the coal is correct for the locomotive's original run in service I do wish they had an option to buy one Challenger tender for people who want to model its current return as a preserved locomotive like Athearn has done with their N scale Big Boy.
right ok thanks for the info
Ah.... The Big Boy! Very nice. I’m in the US and have loved the last few months of it’s being shown off throughout the country. There are some really great videos out there. Check ‘em out. See ya next time.
yeah would love to see this loco is steam
matt slade
As mentioned, decoder (with 21 pins) is in loco, so the two pins wiring the tender to the loco would not be enough.
Also, the speaker is not fitted to the loco, so will need fitting. Chance for an EM2? Should be enough room!
Also, note that the connecting rods are in sync; the real loco has nothing to link the two, so the model will need adjustment!
Lovely loco, loving mine, just gathering Armory yellow paint for some cars to match!
Awesome video, the model looks very nice :)
Thanks
Very attractive looking "big boy" model, this special collector edition locomotive has spectacular details & the Union Pacific rr has gained massive publicity with the restoration of UP 4014.
Does that thing have axle bearings or does it stink like the rest of the Rivarossi red box steam without any axle bearings?
How do you remove the locomotive shell to lubricate the locomotive?
Good review Matt of a cost effective loco. You'll have to save up for a sound chip now! Think of the speakers that will fit in that tender!
i might get 2 speakers in. One in the front and one in the tender
matt slade
As mentioned, decoder (with 21 pins) is in loco, so the two pins wiring the tender to the loco would not be enough.
Also, the speaker is not fitted to the loco, so will need fitting. Chance for an EM2? Should be enough room!
Also, note that the connecting rods are in sync; the real loco has nothing to link the two, so the model will need adjustment!
Lovely loco, loving mine, just gathering Armory yellow paint for some cars to match!
I have one and it looks good and highly betailed
You were correct, the Big Boy 4014 was converted to run on oil. Coal is limited in short supply and oil is easily transported in tank cars that the 4014 has behind it when out on the rails.
4-8-8-4. 🤔 What about the week behind the piston? Maybe I am wrong though.
its definitely a 4-8-8-4 haha
well i was worried about the curves when you first showed us. but seemed to run well. give her a good break in period and lets get some rail cars after her.
she is a beauty of a beast.
i will do a video with her pulling some rail cars soon
Looks really smooth, what is it's haulage capacity?
dont no yet iv not had it pulling a train
Probably pretty big since it’s a Rivarossi!
Very nice Matt smashing looking loco. Are you getting the class 43 scotrail?? Hehe
no not getting class 43 scotrail. They do look good though
Hi matt slade l'm writing this now just to see your review I had to have the motor replaced cos the motor was notching and I think rivarossi/hornby could of done better.
Yes I have just taken delivery of this loco looks great going for dcc sound but how do you get the body apart and I also here the tender can be a pain to open also,
iv not attempted to take the body off yet so don't no how to did it
might have to give Hornby a ring
There is no tender body as such... The cab end of the tender is the only opening part but boy is it stuck in place!
Thanks for your message but how do separate to loco from the chassis so I can get access to the 21 pin plug Hornby sheet is not very clearthanks robert
yes just got the body removed only take out the large cab screw at the rear and the front fire box screw hop that helps
I thought I read that the coal was removable great vid
ow it might be ill have to have a look
It appears to be modeled on the original, before conversion to oil, hence the coal tender. I won't swear to it, but I believe there was also a major modification to the firebox during conversion. Still, very nice loco. I would expect a Rivarossi to run very quietly.
Yes, when a steam engine is converted from coal to oil, the firebox does have to be modified.
WOW !!!!!!!!!!! What a fantastic Locomotive, most things in the USA tend to be BIG.Cheers Greg
haha yeah they do. Thanks Greg
it depends on when the loco came out if it was last year it would be modeled like a coal burner or it was modeled the way itis for historical accuracy
this loco has only just come out so its very new
@@Mattslade6024 then I guess more people would have the coal burner bigboy than the oil burner
Definitely a big loco.
Does the lack of cab detail reduces the cost?
But it is highly detailed
I would like to see it go round 1st radius bends
Keep safe arp
yeah i would like to see it on 1st radius track as well
Hi Matt, good review nice looking loco. TONY from RHYL [GRIFFIN STATION].
Thanks Tony
The Riva 4014 is not the today version for sure, but its the delivered version 1941/ 1942 and for that is this 4014 correct. At the end the BB is over 40 years old and i think today even good enough if someone want one to drive and no paying much as other Companys want. I have one Big Boy from Trix and Athearn Genesis and i wait for the new Riva 4014 with oil Tender. :)
Well Matthew what can I say um very BIG indeed and coming out of that tunnel well there is no room for mistakes it did take on the curves very well and that coupling at the back of the tender well hear in the uk the EWS red coal wagons have them. So what marks will I give it ? well oil or coal it dose not mater as it's a full 10 out of 10 and the size well every platform in the uk would be damage and also it be out of gauge as well. James Joseph JJ Dyer
haha yeah it is a big loco. Thanks JJ
Amazing loco
Thanks
Matt slade I've been to the Brecon mountain railway before and they have two steam engines one big one and one small one
they are 3 steam locos and one has just come back in to service and it will be the loco in my video
@@Mattslade6024 OK
The number board should be lit and a bad commission on another wise fine model. My Italian made Big Boy is old but I love the look of it and its smooth running
which goes for my other Rivarossi loco. I have a review in an American model railroad magazine where they dismantle the model they are testing to appraise it, however
when they saw the complexity of the exploded parts they decided against it! A double header would be most impressive if they actually happened.
Rivarossi has modelled it as per the original to celebrate it's 60 Years, Rivarossi hasn't modelled it as per the prototype it is today...hence no "oil-fired" locomotive.
Thanks, that does make sense.
ow right ok thanks for letting me know
@@Mattslade6024 hey, i'm a new model railwayer do you have any tips?
Whatever is "H-Oh" gauge? Maybe "H-zero"???
(Half-zero scale).
Andrea Massara it’s half O gauge which O gauge is 1:48 the scale of the real thing. Hi scale is 1:87 scale
you can have oil or coal versions
The big boys were coal fired... It's only now in 2019 that UP are running it under oil instead of coal
I do believe the Rivarissi "Big Boy" still the cheapest (simplest) Big Boy on the market! Can't tell witch one is better or worse than the other but I would place my bet on Broadway Limited or Trix to be the best detailed!
yeah it is the cheapest thats why i get this one
Cool
Thanks
Some of the oil burner were converted to coal, coal burned hotter which resulted in more power.
Oh my god Matt. Imagine if it was 00 gauge, that small difference in scale would be ridiculous. Kinda want one, but I want many things so nothing new there.
yeah would be quite a bit bigger in 00 gauge
Thumbs up for the loco and the review. Mine is a year old but just as smooth out of the box. You skipped over sound; it is a DCC loco, isn't it? Thanks.
this model is DCC ready but will be putting sound in it
The front "condenser coils"(?) mounted under the front pilot handrails don't belong there either...this is not really the 4014...🤔
It does look to be an improvement over the old Rivarossi Big Boy but I think you were generous with your 8 out of 10. Lacking in detail on the body, little and unpainted cab detail and a big error on the coal tender vs. an oil burner tender I'd only give it a 7. Also, we North Americans tend to say the number as Four Zero One Four not Forty Fourteen and the front end has a pilot not a cow catcher. Thanks for your review Matt. Cheers, David.
It would be interesting to compare with the BLI and other models. Being DCC ready must keep costs down.
yeah it think it is better than the older one. Thanks David
I've only ever heard it referred to as the forty fourteen.
@@flyboy2610 Oh, OK
Yes Big Box. Airfix started this big box crap years ago.
Well done Matt, and I recommend DCC Sound. My Trix is already 12 or 13 years old, made of diecast metal and is still like new because I hardly touch it and it only runs occasionally. It just gets around this British layout. Only just ! Cheers ! ua-cam.com/video/ICSCJjKYO5M/v-deo.html
paint the bearing caps silver
Impressive -but no good for my 6x4 layout :(
yeah might be a bit big for your layout
Can't believe Hornby are getting away with selling this 50 year old model which apart from the motor / gearbox hasn't been updated since the beginning, and the cheek to change over £300! - sorry but i think it's a bad model... Just 4 Plunger pick-ups, plastic slide bars and chunky details i think they are robbing us blind!
Edit... They have actually got rid of the plunger pick-ups and put wipers on the drivers!
Even though this does look like a good model I'd still say the MTH version is better, £200 more gets you a diecast loco, sound, and a synchronized fan assisted smoke unit
Rossi is so off to the 4014 it isn't funny...4014 doesn't have the cooling coils on the front hand rails...don't have duel dynamo's . No roof top antenna ,,the side rods are silver not black ...body is supposed to be gloss black with while chalk marking big boy on the front of the smoke box. ..silver on the tender and rear trucks bearing caps. . That loco isn't worth no 600.....the only one that hits the nail on the head on true details of the 4014 is the trix big boy...that even have the up logo with 4014 on the cab floor. And the tender should have the oil tender too and not the coal...ps athearn is better and have the tsunami 2 sound for 100-150 more then Rossi....it's worth it ..
just found this link for the tenderwww.wiringfordcc.com/hropen.htm
Thanks Rob