Handling Heat as a Card Counter

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  • @in2deepcuzican866
    @in2deepcuzican866 3 роки тому +2531

    I've just started counting cards and there's 52 in a pack,should save you some time before you start counting .

    • @yourewrong154
      @yourewrong154 3 роки тому +272

      There’s also 104 in 2 packs, and 156 in 3 packs. Of course that’s not counting jokers, which I personally think should be counted. I don’t know how many there are in 4 packs but mom said we could go to the store on Tuesday and buy another one so I might update this comment then :)

    • @in2deepcuzican866
      @in2deepcuzican866 3 роки тому +41

      Stop makeing me laugh , am glad some one else has a sence of humour.

    • @potatolew4495
      @potatolew4495 3 роки тому +16

      Wow thanks for the information, you saved me so much time as my mom just started teaching me how to count past 30. 😆🤣

    • @anthonybosio2412
      @anthonybosio2412 3 роки тому +4

      Hilarious, thanks for the laugh😂

    • @nicolagraham1678
      @nicolagraham1678 3 роки тому

      🤣

  • @ryancage1006
    @ryancage1006 3 роки тому +2621

    I got so much heat today at the casino. the dealer flat out asked me if I was counting. then after I won my 500 dollar bet and the pit boss distracted me for a minute asking random questions. the dealer burned a card when I wasn't paying attention and a dude who wasn't sitting on the table but just watching called her out on it. she ended up pulling the burned card and dealing it to me with approval from the pit boss. it was a jack. I played that hand and walked away. that dude saved my ass so hard I would have lost that bet and been off on my count the rest of the shoe.

    • @cowboydan8021
      @cowboydan8021 3 роки тому +98

      Please forgive my ignorance here, I'm trying to learn how to play blackjack with some kind of consistent methodology and I'm pretty uneducated at this point. What does it mean when you said the dealer "burned" a card but then soon later re-dealt it to you?

    • @ryancage1006
      @ryancage1006 3 роки тому +239

      @@cowboydan8021 so before the game starts or a dealer is changed out due to them taking a break or its the end of the shift. house rules say they need to "burn" the top card from the shoe. this is just them taking it out not dealing it to anyone and putting it in the discard tray (typically you don't see the card either sometimes they might flash it and then you add it to the running count if not 100 percent sure what card you saw ignore it). when a dealer is doing that mid shoe and they didn't change dealers its not cool. you treat those cards like they are just behind the cut card in the back of the shoe but if they start burning cards every round or every other round it adds up and will make the running count way to off to make a appropriate bet based on the running count to true count conversion. its best just to stand up at that point and wait for a new game. when I first started this was easy because I wasn't taking it extremely serious and I was very relaxed. after getting the heat and noticing dealers making payout mistakes more often then I'd ever imagine its become a adrenaline rush everytime I sit at the table. I learn something new almost every time I play. like slouching in the chair on second base is a great way for the dealer to flash you cards all day when they check for blackjack if the dealer is sloppy.

    • @cowboydan8021
      @cowboydan8021 3 роки тому +26

      @@ryancage1006 holy shit.. there's other things they do too? That's crazy

    • @fvlzquz9418
      @fvlzquz9418 3 роки тому +12

      Dang bro, I really wanna learn how to count. Thank goodness you didn’t lose!

    • @ryancage1006
      @ryancage1006 3 роки тому +14

      @@fvlzquz9418 I've had both big wins and losses im still very new

  • @ChinoMakalao
    @ChinoMakalao 3 роки тому +2830

    Dana White got backed off after he won $2 million playing black Jack in a Casino in Vegas. Except he didn’t get backed off until the day after he played and a representative called him to tell him he’s not allowed to gamble there anymore. Then Dana White said ok, well I’m not hosting UFC events over at your casino anymore. that was a badass moment lol

    • @chiefballs
      @chiefballs 3 роки тому +86

      lmfao that’s the video that brought me here

    • @joecook5689
      @joecook5689 3 роки тому +22

      Pretty badass

    • @smirage22
      @smirage22 3 роки тому +29

      The brothers who own station casinos have a stake in UFC

    • @swaggytoast5242
      @swaggytoast5242 3 роки тому +13

      @@smirage22 ok

    • @jsm530
      @jsm530 3 роки тому +3

      @@swaggytoast5242 shut it

  • @jaredcarrick3468
    @jaredcarrick3468 4 роки тому +1488

    Casinos need to put signs up at their entrances which read “Welcome. Give us all your money. If you win, we will trespass you.”

  • @anunentitledmotivatedmille7731
    @anunentitledmotivatedmille7731 3 роки тому +1714

    I accidentally hit on a 17 and got 21 they never left me alone after that.

    • @Serin9X
      @Serin9X 3 роки тому +180

      Did they make you give up the x-ray specs?

    • @yuniorlucero1817
      @yuniorlucero1817 3 роки тому +100

      Lmao this is actually the funniest thing I've read in a while.

    • @jsolo890
      @jsolo890 3 роки тому +4

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Quackerilla
      @Quackerilla 3 роки тому +6

      How do you accidentally cheat? I mean really.

    • @ianandersen265
      @ianandersen265 3 роки тому +44

      @@Quackerilla Wasn't cheating. This person said that he wasn't paying attention and mistakenly hit hard 17 once. If the upcard was an ace, that's a warning sign that a player is counting cards.
      In a hit soft 17 game, if the true count is -4 or lower (-6 at stand soft 17 game), you are justified hitting 17 against an ace.

  • @rjabbott4681
    @rjabbott4681 3 роки тому +1380

    Never counted cards before but this was a super interesting video

    • @brendonlutz5930
      @brendonlutz5930 3 роки тому +5

      I was thinking the same thing😂

    • @dailyvideos3434
      @dailyvideos3434 3 роки тому +7

      Basketball is still interesting if you havent played it,you guys have weird logic

    • @rjabbott4681
      @rjabbott4681 3 роки тому +1

      @Roger Felton 😂😂😂

    • @smallone2351
      @smallone2351 3 роки тому

      @@dailyvideos3434 you have weird logic

    • @dailyvideos3434
      @dailyvideos3434 3 роки тому

      @@smallone2351 you are a weird blender

  • @lolero123
    @lolero123 3 роки тому +898

    The fact that counting is "not allowed" baffles me.
    The casinos really are crying "nooo, you're meant to just gamble like an idiot, you're cant just use a strategy or math!!"
    Also theres no way to prove anything, it pisses me off

    • @FinnishArmy
      @FinnishArmy 3 роки тому +96

      I mean, the whole point of the casino was made to make money from people and make people think they have a chance. They can do what ever they want as a business. It's not a "right" for you to use your skill, it's a matter of if the casino wants your business or not; regardless of what you think.

    • @peacefulwarrior9518
      @peacefulwarrior9518 3 роки тому +31

      @@FinnishArmy There is no objective truth in the idea that casinos should have the right to refuse a player. There are plenty of cases where a gamble can not be refused. (The best example being the stock market) There is also no objective truth to the idea that they shouldn't have that right. "Regardless of what you think" both sides of this argument are a perspective based on values. I happen to be of the opinion they should be able to refuse advantaged players, but I am not so foolish as to think my point of view is objectively correct.

    • @blablabla7796
      @blablabla7796 3 роки тому +24

      Because casinos are entertainment places not a place to earn money as a player. It’s designed to let you win from time to time but lose in the long run. That’s why casinos are extravagant places with flashy colors. They’re selling you the experience. Only an idiot would try to make a living from casinos. You should only put in money into chips that you can afford to lose.

    • @jakx2ob
      @jakx2ob 3 роки тому +49

      @@peacefulwarrior9518 did you miss the whole GameStop thing? You can absolutely be refused at the stock market if your play threatens the wrong people.

    • @pietandersen6120
      @pietandersen6120 3 роки тому +7

      @@FinnishArmy Obviously they have the right to tell you you cant do business with them anymore, its more the principle behind it. It being legal doesnt make it respectable in any way.

  • @anthonyyelchibekov6488
    @anthonyyelchibekov6488 4 роки тому +683

    Just came back from a trip. My friend who knew I was a counter asked me what the count was in the loudest way possible. He thought the casinos were cool with it. Luckily no one important heard him ask for the count

    • @Kr4nni
      @Kr4nni 4 роки тому +59

      Can you speak in an another language on the table? So no one will understand?

    • @archiehickox6518
      @archiehickox6518 4 роки тому +2

      How much you made and lost counting?

    • @davidpeters265
      @davidpeters265 4 роки тому +78

      @@Kr4nni Some casinos require English only, saw this in Ms

    • @lyingcat9022
      @lyingcat9022 4 роки тому +5

      Anthony Yelchibekov So what was the count though?!? Don’t tease us bro ;)

    • @anthonyyelchibekov6488
      @anthonyyelchibekov6488 4 роки тому +2

      @@Kr4nni actually we didn't try this one. I know some tables won't let you speak another language

  • @d1zguy864
    @d1zguy864 3 роки тому +193

    To me counting cards is part of strategy. Casino’s throw you off by cutting decks and changing rules on a whim to their benefits. It’s 100 percent okay to count cards and do things for your benefit.

    • @scottrobinson4611
      @scottrobinson4611 2 роки тому +9

      If you can learn a strategy that gives you favourable odds, you're good at the game.
      Of course it's okay. Casinos will disagree because your gain is their loss.

    • @SuperCatacata
      @SuperCatacata 2 роки тому

      @@scottrobinson4611 Yep, and it's such a small minority that count anyways. They just want to keep their profits at absurd levels, and can't handle it when someone outplays them without cheating. Thus, start resorting to cheating themselves to keep these people away from their casinos.

    • @emmanuelvacakis4463
      @emmanuelvacakis4463 10 місяців тому

      Continuous shuffles machines end it all. So does 6-5 blackjack games with poor deck penetration.

    • @jasonclark5856
      @jasonclark5856 7 місяців тому

      That is total BS. The reason these actions exist is because people did count already. What a twisted way of looking at it. The house only has half a percent advantage in blackjack when perfect basic strategy is played. A counter can have up to a 2% advantage. It's cheating. The house is entitled to its advantage for facilitating it. YOU make the bets. They pay you. They still have the risk of you getting on a lucky streak and being up on them. Some people who play only basic strategy can even be up on a casino for a full fiscal year because they got all of the right cards. I hate how counters think that what they do is justified....

    • @Cherixo_
      @Cherixo_ 8 годин тому

      @@jasonclark5856it’s not cheating it’s not illegal it’s just maths chill out

  • @aliennotion2876
    @aliennotion2876 3 роки тому +342

    It's been my experience that if the pit boss jams a 10,000 volt cattle prod into your side, it's probably time to leave. Also, smashing your hand with a hammer is another good sign.

    • @MmeHyraelle
      @MmeHyraelle 3 роки тому +13

      That would also land them jail time.

    • @Jsizzlet
      @Jsizzlet 3 роки тому +9

      And not to mention you could easily sue them into the ground for some stupidity like that.

    • @amazingatsinging
      @amazingatsinging 3 роки тому +48

      The fact people don’t get the reference is sad…

    • @von...
      @von... 3 роки тому +8

      @@amazingatsinging we live in a society smh

    • @epicphail2926
      @epicphail2926 3 роки тому +13

      Reference to Casino?

  • @dustycarrier4413
    @dustycarrier4413 2 роки тому +34

    I work in casinos, and I'll tell you right now; we *do* put people in the database, but generally, the casino's business model is to keep you inside, even when winning. And that includes card counters. See, there's more to being a card counter, from the casino's perspective, than just winning hands when you can. And, generally, your winnings won't be too big. But if you're getting heat from the casino staff, this provides a positive feedback loop on that table because many gamblers will see the table as a lucky table, rather than assuming you're card counting. Additionally, a single player being emboldened at the table emboldens the other players on the table, but that card counting player is tempering their emboldened strategy with their card count, whereas the surrounding players are simply playing bolder because they see the card counter winning.

    • @peterisawesomeplease
      @peterisawesomeplease 2 роки тому +2

      Yea this is a key point never talked about on this channel as far as I can tell. The casinos deliberately have their games set up to allow for a low level of advantaged play. They could easily only have rule sets that are impossible to beat. But it adds romance to the game which draws people in. Its advertising. Blackjack generally is an advertisement game. It has low payout to the house not just because of the odds but because it takes up more space than a slot and requires way more overhead in terms of dealers, security, and logistics. Even at 0.5% advantage the house is almost certainly losing money on most tables. But by having blackjack tables you drawn in more people than use your slots or whatever making up the difference.

    • @TruthBehindTheLies
      @TruthBehindTheLies 2 роки тому +7

      @@peterisawesomeplease They make their money on blackjack tables because the average player is not playing perfectly and makes plenty of mistakes so the small house advantage becomes much larger. You gotta think the small advantage percentages that are always thrown around are for people who are playing "perfectly". Few play perfectly, most are sloppy, and some don't even know how to play at all

    • @peterisawesomeplease
      @peterisawesomeplease 2 роки тому

      @@TruthBehindTheLies That is a good point. 0.5% house advantage is still only over perfect non counting play. Its probably more like 2 or 3 percent on average. Which is lower than the 6 or 7 percent on slots but still more than I was thinking of.

  • @maximusretardious4597
    @maximusretardious4597 3 роки тому +496

    I think MIT had a really good card counting team in the 80's and 90's till they got banned from almost everywhere

    • @harrytan5579
      @harrytan5579 3 роки тому +46

      @Monster It's a fiction based on a true story, the daughter of the writer studied in my highschool(the lower school section). But I would like to also inform you that the movie was finaced by the casino to lure premature card counters into casinos. So be very aware of not getting too confident of your skills if you ever try to do it.

    • @jamesmurray3082
      @jamesmurray3082 3 роки тому

      If you make to obvious of course the casino will spot you.going from $5 to $200 really draws attention.i saw small counters get caught.i dealt for 25yrs

    • @OriginalGateKeeper
      @OriginalGateKeeper 2 роки тому +2

      The lie is, they weren't "just card counting".

    • @lanesniffin730
      @lanesniffin730 2 роки тому

      @Jake Guydan Kevin spacey always hits on 11 😏

    • @awful999
      @awful999 Рік тому

      @@OriginalGateKeeper yeah they were doing all kinds of advantage plays

  • @RockstarTeamOfficial
    @RockstarTeamOfficial 3 роки тому +322

    2:05 he was about to say hookers my man had quite some fun.

    • @dafytube234
      @dafytube234 3 роки тому +8

      yessssssss

    • @tupatshakurtis5195
      @tupatshakurtis5195 3 роки тому +26

      Had a lil smile too for a sec 😂

    • @XxxXxx-yh5gz
      @XxxXxx-yh5gz 3 роки тому +12

      Lmao, nice catch

    • @magicwithin6873
      @magicwithin6873 3 роки тому +2

      Lmaoooooooo he’s like the biggest Christian sooooo probably not

    • @OcarinaOfVali
      @OcarinaOfVali 3 роки тому +3

      He was looking to the right he was deff lying when he said flights

  • @ki11m3please325
    @ki11m3please325 3 роки тому +40

    Finally something UA-cam recommended is actually really interesting to watch.

    • @MikeOnTrack
      @MikeOnTrack 3 роки тому +1

      And yet not related to our usual viewing at all! Go algorithm go!

  • @JetHawk
    @JetHawk 4 роки тому +358

    Even arcades can try back offs. Some arcade manager banned me from his store because he saw me winning too many tickets and knew I wasn’t there for fun.

    • @alansmithee183
      @alansmithee183 3 роки тому +107

      He really didn't want you to get that jumbo pencil huh?

    • @JetHawk
      @JetHawk 3 роки тому +93

      @@alansmithee183 one called the police. They really didn’t want me to win their finger traps.

    • @alansmithee183
      @alansmithee183 3 роки тому +4

      @@JetHawk Yeah, you were about to break 'em no doubt

    • @djbred18
      @djbred18 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah Chuckie Cheese be killin the winning uh?

    • @Dance_Party
      @Dance_Party 3 роки тому +4

      @@JetHawk do you mind me asking, what machine were you making mad tickets off of?

  • @Pheer777
    @Pheer777 4 роки тому +112

    I have to say, it's pretty impressive that this channel can produce so much content over such a long span of time just on the topic of blackjack and card counting.

    • @Ufowavecollective
      @Ufowavecollective 3 роки тому

      Yeah, because hes getting paid for it. Card counting is really impractical now.

    • @bigboinutbaggins7134
      @bigboinutbaggins7134 3 роки тому +5

      @@Ufowavecollective why is it impractical

    • @anguishedcarpet
      @anguishedcarpet 3 роки тому

      @@bigboinutbaggins7134 enjoy trying to keep track of six decks simultaneously lol

    • @codyfaurie6203
      @codyfaurie6203 3 роки тому +3

      @@anguishedcarpet 6 decks is optimal....

    • @codmott286
      @codmott286 3 роки тому

      @@codyfaurie6203 optimal? You're saying the casinos are trying to help card counters?

  • @PokemonProfessorNebula
    @PokemonProfessorNebula 3 роки тому +91

    The fact that you can be kicked out for being too good is basically being called a hacker by a cheater in a game.

    • @bonksadventure8647
      @bonksadventure8647 3 роки тому +2

      Most casinos won’t kick you out over it, they will give you all options available , none that you will like. We will tell you either that you are flat bet, or we are backing you off of blackjack style games. You are free to play any other game in the casino, except blackjack.
      One quick tip for counters, if you get caught be someone and backed off, don’t tell the boss about the floor or shift boss the night before that had no problem with it and you liked him better, you are not doing yourself or him any favors. 😂

    • @SnailHatan
      @SnailHatan 2 роки тому +3

      Campers calling people who kill them hackers

  • @dogguy8603
    @dogguy8603 3 роки тому +824

    Remember if they aren't cops, DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR ID

    • @MoneylineMatt7
      @MoneylineMatt7 3 роки тому +58

      Even if they are cops you can get out of it with the correct responses and questions

    • @ddude2play
      @ddude2play 3 роки тому +90

      Lol, as a dealer, if I ask for ID(or am told to ask for ID), and they don’t have ID, I stop taking their bets. I respond with I don’t think you’re old enough to gamble.

    • @dogguy8603
      @dogguy8603 3 роки тому +132

      @@ddude2play and i will happily leave with my winnings, also if your a dealer, why do you give a damn if someone is counting cards?

    • @ddude2play
      @ddude2play 3 роки тому +43

      @@dogguy8603 I don’t care that much. At the end of the day, I am there to provide decisions/hour and good customer service in order to drop a tip. That said, if they want to know who you are, decent chance they will find it.

    • @serlawrenceharlem3838
      @serlawrenceharlem3838 3 роки тому +13

      . yep. Handing over an id is surrendering rights. Most dont know that. Answering any questions is also giving up your rights. Handing over an insurance card also.

  • @kenc165
    @kenc165 3 роки тому +23

    I was a card counter for years but never played over $1000 a hand. I’ve had a few sessions over a $25k. I have had many pit bosses stand and stare at my play. I’ve had them switch out dealers that are super fast to try and confuse me. I have had them shuffle on me a few times. The best method to get me out is to switch out the dealer with a new sloppy dealer that’s slow and stares at the cards before placing them on the felt. I can’t deal with that!

    • @derrikferguson3219
      @derrikferguson3219 Рік тому +1

      That’s my biggest peeve is when the dealer take a moment to look at the card before they turn it over for you to see.

    • @kenc165
      @kenc165 Рік тому +1

      @@derrikferguson3219 yes, and you watch their lips moving while they’re adding up the cards. Very frustrating, I even tell them just put it down and we’ll count together, ugh!

  • @davidwittman2839
    @davidwittman2839 3 роки тому +59

    I remember seeing a sign downtown Vegas “card counters welcome” either at the California or the Sport casino across the street. I guess they don’t really mean it.

    • @Narrator007
      @Narrator007 3 роки тому +52

      They also make a good deal of money from all the people who come in _trying_ to count cards and doing it badly.
      It's not card counters the casinos consider undesirable. It's the *_good_* card counters.

    • @sanfranciscobay
      @sanfranciscobay 3 роки тому

      What were the other Table Rules where they said Card Counters Welcome? 6:5 payout on Blackjack and other odds against the Player?

  • @thisismagacountry1318
    @thisismagacountry1318 3 роки тому +83

    I just wave my hand gently and remind them these aren't the droids they're looking for.
    That usually works.

  • @JakHart
    @JakHart 3 роки тому +5

    9:50 we're going to call what you describe here as a "time misdirection reversal".
    Usually, when a magician has a little mini conversation, it's so they can be sneaky about a thing they just did. Distraction affects short term memory.
    But never have I heard of any magician that has used time misdirection like this, ever.
    Absolutely brilliant.

  • @DavidDiaz-zp4hu
    @DavidDiaz-zp4hu 3 роки тому +12

    Dude I don't see how u can even say that's not a perfect analogy w/ the no shoes no shirt thing., because imo that actually IS a perfect analogy, same concept.. .. .. .. .. great video ..

  • @TheDeatharcana
    @TheDeatharcana 3 роки тому +15

    I'm a casino dealer, and I couldn't care less whether my guests are card counting or not 🙃

  • @zfilms4858
    @zfilms4858 3 роки тому +11

    here's some irony. In New Jersey as of 1979, you are legal protected from a backoff. to quote the NJ Supreme Court: "Sometimes, proprietors have a duty to remove disorderly or dangerous people from the premises. Casinos may bar the disorderly, the intoxicated, and the repetitive petty offender. If someone is not causing any of these types of distractions, then they have the right of reasonable access to the blackjack tables"
    Scorce: Uston v. Resorts International Hotel, Inc. 89 N.J. 163, 445 A.2d 370, 1982 N.J.

    • @OriginalGateKeeper
      @OriginalGateKeeper 2 роки тому +1

      The part you are missing is, the same ruling allows casinos to combat advanced blackjack players by, limiting the player to one spot, to cut the deck in any place at least 10 cards from either end and, shuffle anytime after a hand has been completed.

  • @two-bit8502
    @two-bit8502 3 роки тому +57

    The only time ive ever been backed off, i wasn't even playing for 30 minutes. They had no identification from me but i had just won 50k 2 months in a row completely across the country. I figured they had put facial recognition on a database somewhere. All my heat has died down already.

    • @habibbialikafe339
      @habibbialikafe339 3 роки тому +2

      Just wear a mask the whole time. Maybe a hat and shades too lol

    • @two-bit8502
      @two-bit8502 3 роки тому +1

      @@habibbialikafe339 this was years before the stupid mask thing

    • @habibbialikafe339
      @habibbialikafe339 3 роки тому +3

      @@two-bit8502 well u can do that now

    • @SnailHatan
      @SnailHatan 2 роки тому +6

      @@two-bit8502 yeah, preserving life is so stupid

    • @two-bit8502
      @two-bit8502 2 роки тому

      @@SnailHatan but diabetic lives don't matter

  • @vadgers
    @vadgers 3 роки тому +43

    ah yes, information i will possibly never use in my life. perfect.

    • @hanafuda
      @hanafuda 3 роки тому +2

      You never know.

  • @RhymesWithCarbon
    @RhymesWithCarbon 3 роки тому +27

    I never got backed off, only that the pit boss came over and started talking to my wife and I making smalltalk to distract us from our count. We bought in for $60 each and within 2 hours we had $2000 - and we just packed it in.

  • @lynx1598
    @lynx1598 3 роки тому +14

    Lmao I remember when a pit boss backed me off in Laughlin nevada, all I was doing was doubling up when I lose, sometimes it works well in my favor other times the casino takes me. But I was floored when the pit boss told me I could only stick to one bet and I was only stating at $5 talk about a casino desperate for money. That was within 7 hands of sitting down I just left and went to another casino.

  • @rhpmike
    @rhpmike 4 роки тому +5

    Being nice / non-confrontation with the bit is very important. There are a few who just think they are god's gift to casinos to protect games, but most of the time they don't want to be backing you off either. Also, there is a big difference between being asked to stop playing and being 86ed. I've had pits tell me that they knew what I was doing but there shift was this time to that time and their off days were such and so forth and they didn't care what I did during other shifts. Obviously the final decision is not up to the pit, but you can help yourself a lot by handling it well. Fact is arguing / fighting / self-righteousness doesn't work anyway, so might as well deescalate the situation, make nice with them, and live to see another day.

  • @6973chris2
    @6973chris2 3 роки тому +6

    A while back when i dealt blackjack we were taught that if heat shows up to screw up the hand intentionally to force a push for every player so that the player cannot continue.

    • @noex100
      @noex100 8 місяців тому

      So you were instructed to cheat... and obliged? Interesting.

  • @primalter6744
    @primalter6744 3 роки тому +2

    It’s amazing how far a good apology goes. It’s annoying that it took so long for me to realize as a kid, cause as you know the world revolves around you when you’re young so why should I have to apologize…

    • @bonedtothestone7408
      @bonedtothestone7408 3 роки тому +1

      I used to think I should only apologize if I’m in the wrong or if I was actually sorry... that was what I was told but then the same people that taught me that forced me to apologize even when I was in the right or I wasn’t actually apologetic. Big contradiction.

  • @jasonjohnson5929
    @jasonjohnson5929 4 роки тому +14

    Been watching your videos made over 1000$ now in the past week and half I know you don't alwaya win but things have been going my way alot more thanks to ur channel thanks buddy

  • @Reloadeez
    @Reloadeez 2 роки тому +5

    I use almost 15 percent of my yearly earnings to give pit bosses gifts, in most states its perfectly legal. A bribe to influence a casino employee to allow cheating is illegal, but counting isn't cheating. A few thousand in gift cards to the pit boss goes a long way.

  • @seanpinkham1152
    @seanpinkham1152 2 роки тому

    i like how you have actual stuff for free and you actually clarify such as "it is very rare" others would just act like its a normal thing and in a couple hours i have learned more than any other youtuber
    much love

  • @jessesmith4541
    @jessesmith4541 3 роки тому

    Brilliant move to UA-cam. You're guaranteed a loyal subscriber base consisting of Casino staff and budding counters.

  • @maisencoding1862
    @maisencoding1862 4 роки тому +24

    Hey Colin, you do amazing content, keep on going!

  • @christianmathison1182
    @christianmathison1182 2 роки тому +3

    Usually for me they just start talking to me the entire time trying to get my eyes and mind off the cards. I eventually got listed, when my players card was swiped, as a potential card count warning. I only knew because I went to get my room and it came up on the computer screen when they swiped my card. Never asked to leave

  • @davidchapman7667
    @davidchapman7667 3 роки тому +31

    DE-ESCALATION! This needs to happen more often whether it the work place, classroom, grocery store, fast food line, freeway... People on both sides of the coin need to learn some good de-escalation strategies. Adding fuel to a fire won't put out a fire. Nor will it keep you from getting burned.

  • @JakHart
    @JakHart 3 роки тому +17

    0:56
    That's definitely still heat, and was intentional.
    Little distractions like that have an effect on short term memory. Magicians use that technique often. It's like a subcategory of time misdirection.
    We'll call it "space misdirection" for now.

  • @christophersantrizos1657
    @christophersantrizos1657 3 роки тому +65

    Never be committed to something you can't drop in 15 seconds if you feel the heat coming around the corner.

  • @jbed6
    @jbed6 3 роки тому +16

    I got kicked out of a Chuck'E'Cheese for almost emptying out the coin pushers. Am I just too good for them?

    • @hanafuda
      @hanafuda 3 роки тому +1

      I never really saw anyone trying the coin pushers, and never bothered to try myself. I wonder if there are strategy videos or articles for those out there somewhere.
      Shame that most arcades these days make you use these point card things now

  • @Aaroniii
    @Aaroniii 4 роки тому +59

    You do amazing content, ty

  • @jessetroxell9326
    @jessetroxell9326 Рік тому

    I feel like this has changed my game completely. I'm having longer session prior to learning counting. I went from playing 30 minutes of play to 4 to 5 hours a session! I'm definitely progressing as a beginner.

  • @Bluetoothedshark
    @Bluetoothedshark 2 роки тому +4

    Maybe sometimes it's in the casino's interest to let someone winning, a positive example of someone winning could encourage others to play, the feeding frenzy? That could be why they don't always stop you.

  • @stricklen93
    @stricklen93 4 роки тому +49

    Is there any content of you playing at casino or practicing?

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  4 роки тому +18

      In our paid video course there's a video of me playing through a full shoe, talking through my decisions. The only in-casino video footage I have is from my backoff video.

    • @usefulidiot9896
      @usefulidiot9896 4 роки тому +4

      There is a video of Colin getting backed off, the pit boss wasn't that bad to be fair, but my favourite exchange was this.......
      Pitboss: I am letting you play blackjack anyway you want to play
      Colin: No, you said I can't play the way I want to play
      Pitboss: You can't play like that
      There is another channel gaining attraction called Blackjack University. They actually play blackjack at a home table. However they don't count and make out that systems work like some shitty 4-2-1 crap. It's good for practising, but they only play basic strategy.
      Hey Colin, quick question, do you think you could be a winning BJ player if you were made to flat bet? if you learned a count with the highest PE?

    • @thejeffkershner
      @thejeffkershner 3 роки тому +1

      @@usefulidiot9896 a friend of mine flat bet at a very favorable game just outside of Vegas and crushed it using only playing deviations. He told me he used over 50 deviations.

  • @johnlanton9363
    @johnlanton9363 3 роки тому +2

    One thing you forgot to mention which I think is important is finding out or asking a dealer casualty “hey is that the shift manager/VP of table games?” If they say yes and he’s hawking your game from the podium odds are you've got some heat.
    If it’s a low level floor person, then you know you’re okay.

  • @MisterB7917
    @MisterB7917 3 роки тому +1

    Yeah I've been accused of counting cards at blackjack. I got a lot of heat. Great video on how to handle these situations.

  • @billyhack9673
    @billyhack9673 4 роки тому +8

    Also early surrender is a sweet rule.

  • @tomcast853
    @tomcast853 4 роки тому +5

    Have been playing regularly for only a couple of weeks and went from the lowest card level to the highest in that time. Thought I was getting backed off and it was a host introducing himself and offering me a comped room at the ritz carlton

  • @danielswierczynski2001
    @danielswierczynski2001 3 роки тому +1

    I stumbled on to this video by accident. Really interesting and a lot of good casino advice even if you aren't a card counter or Advantaged Player. Makes me want to head to Vegas this week. Thanks!

  • @timmills5598
    @timmills5598 Рік тому

    I got the pit boss 20 questions deal. Pit boss started asking questions: “where you from, what you do, why in town?” Stuff… I asked him you ask a lot of questions and why… he got defensive and said he was just curious. I then said “well I gotta a question for you?” I then asked him what the rate for a room with a winning session. His attitude totally changed and had a great night…

  • @xromeox7
    @xromeox7 3 роки тому +13

    “We paid for rental cars-hook-ahhlll this stuff” 👌🤣🤣🤣

  • @TimRHillard
    @TimRHillard 2 роки тому +6

    They can refuse to cash you out? Wow, that seems like it'd be illegal, no?

  • @dougstyles
    @dougstyles 3 роки тому +2

    Yup. I started with $60 playing Spanish last month and got up around $700 playing 1 on 1 . Wasn't really counting, just paying attention.
    Boss came up to me and asked what I started with, knowing damn well she already knew it was $60. I played loose the next shoe and cashed out with $500.

  • @lv.99mastermind45
    @lv.99mastermind45 2 роки тому +3

    My favorite instance of backing off is Dana White. I've seen one Casino that he won $6mil from, a Casino that was scheduled to have a UFC fight hosted at. When they backed him off due to losing that $6mil, he went "that's cute" and pulled the fight out of that Casino. It's hillarious, because they got butthurt about losing $6mil, they proceeded to lose hundreds of millions of more dollars.

  • @eddierags720
    @eddierags720 2 роки тому +4

    I went to a casino very drunk and was betting like I was blind man, hitting when you should stand splitting when you shouldn't and doubling down when no one would. I was up big, by shear dumb luck. Then the pitboss tells the dealer to take his break, insert new dealer and I lost all my money. So even when your getting crazy dumb luck they still think you know what you are doing.

  • @cerealmilk6877
    @cerealmilk6877 3 роки тому +18

    The whole video he’s got that, “ha, I got you” look lol

  • @htomerif
    @htomerif 2 роки тому +1

    Maybe you should do a video on the difference between tribal casinos and regular casinos. The law and your rights in tribal casinos are basically unrelated to state and federal law and your rights in regular casinos. You alluded to it in this video but there are a lot of ways your whole overall strategy can backfire at tribal casinos.

  • @MrAwesomal
    @MrAwesomal Рік тому

    I always referred to it as heat score some people give off the wrong vibe or make mistakes that make their heat score rise the secret is to know what your heat score is and the limit the casino has for heat score

  • @MisterMikeTexas
    @MisterMikeTexas 3 роки тому +8

    What if you mentioned Trip Advisor, Yelp!, Google Reviews, or Consumer Affairs? Thoughts on how the management would respond to that? I would think enough backed off players could take a casino down or hinder it on social media.

  • @falseking989
    @falseking989 2 роки тому +2

    Being overly nice & oblivious to the subtext of the situation is actually a good life skill. That pit boss that’s acting confrontational might be doing it because it’s his job to back off card counters. Don’t assume that the guy confronting you is the person who made the decision.

  • @Hyblup
    @Hyblup 2 роки тому

    Literally never gonna go to casinos but these videos are so interesting

  • @paulpena5040
    @paulpena5040 Рік тому +1

    If someone is "hawking" over you I do, as he suggests, ask a simple question to see where you're at, like "Hey I've lost track of the count is it +14 or +12?"

  • @kiracollie7115
    @kiracollie7115 3 роки тому +20

    Is it bad I want to know the casino he’s referring to? XD

  • @davidludwig3975
    @davidludwig3975 3 роки тому +5

    I was so excited getting backed off the first time. Now I realize how much more I could have made by caring a bit more. I cant play anywhere in AZ anymore.

    • @davidludwig3975
      @davidludwig3975 3 роки тому

      @Dough Boiii I play for about a week every month in Vegas or laughlin

    • @davidludwig3975
      @davidludwig3975 3 роки тому +2

      @Dough Boiii poker requires too much thought for me. Blackjack is simple. There is always a hundred percent correct choice. I can play BJ on autopilot.

    • @MadMen356
      @MadMen356 3 роки тому

      @@davidludwig3975 train me?

  • @Umm-mg3pb
    @Umm-mg3pb 3 роки тому +2

    play through the heat my God I'm in love with this guy what a badass

  • @verbalcheatcode9998
    @verbalcheatcode9998 Рік тому +1

    I had a dealer joke that I was card counting because I literally kept changing my bet not because of card counting but because a bunch of low cards came out and I knew common sense that high cards were next

  • @davidgretlein9384
    @davidgretlein9384 3 роки тому +3

    If a player has the ability to count cards multi deck systems, they can and should.
    A counter should say, “nah, I’m not counting cards, just trying to win”.

  • @cgullm4074
    @cgullm4074 3 роки тому +3

    You know. I appreciate your skills in black jack. It just seems like a lot of trouble with Casinos. I wish I had the balls you guys have to have setting there at the table knowing you're about to get asked to leave. I got to stick to craps.

  • @WeBeItching
    @WeBeItching 3 роки тому

    i have no idea about this game, just trying to understand the documentary i am watching on the MIT team, but you sound like a awesome teacher. Really sound like you know yorur stuff!~

  • @christianluyando9782
    @christianluyando9782 2 роки тому

    Thank you for mentioning Blackjack rules that are called #Backoffs.

  • @funkybeat6833
    @funkybeat6833 3 роки тому +9

    "I'm sorry, I meis-interprited za rullez"- Eric Cartman

  • @billyhack9673
    @billyhack9673 4 роки тому +19

    I've always had a problem with heat but i am getting more relaxed. i haven't won my $100K yet but i'm working on it.

  • @jonmurman8117
    @jonmurman8117 3 роки тому +10

    Remember the golden rule. When you keep taking the kings gold you will eventually have a problem

    • @danielyuan9862
      @danielyuan9862 2 роки тому

      Also remember the en rule: you already have a problem

  • @jonmurman8117
    @jonmurman8117 3 роки тому +1

    Got my first "issue" several months ago after decades of casino action.

  • @matthiascerebri3315
    @matthiascerebri3315 4 роки тому +3

    I must say, I was glad to get my Maths A- levels at the second attempt. But you are not just extremely open to so many Infos, but also a calculator not just when it comes to Cards, but also persons. Respect! Keep that up! 😁

  • @spill1987
    @spill1987 4 роки тому +6

    Hey Colin, thanks for the great content and sharing your experience! Just love your videos and the mathematical/statistical perspective on the game! Have you ever heard of a situation where an actual gambler got super lucky and was falsely accused of playing a winning game or card counting for that matter? How do they discriminate between someone who's actually counting cards and someone who's just being lucky if both players are generating high amounts of money over a constant period of time?

    • @lenchstudios
      @lenchstudios 4 роки тому

      If you start to gain dough, they will start paying attention to your moves, if you change your bet amounts dramatically over one hand, thats a clear indicative that u r counting cards.

    • @tmtmtlsml
      @tmtmtlsml 3 роки тому +1

      There are a few ways casinos make that determination between an AP and a lucky player. As a dealer, the biggest indicators to me are 1) selectively taking insurance on non-20 hands, 2) bet spreads larger than 5x, and 3) dropping bets after obvious negative count hands. After being tipped off, you just keep count out of a fresh shoe, and if their bets match the count, it's a pretty good chance they're an AP.
      1 is probably the weirdest one, but as a dealer, it's also the most obvious. There are only two types of blackjack players when it comes to insurance: those who always take it (rare), and those who never take it unless they have 20. The (flawed) reasoning is that if they have 20, they expect to win the hand and make the insurance back, despite the two bets being separate. So when someone has like a 12 and they take insurance, that's an indication that the count is high and the insurance EV is positive (bonus points if they raised their bet for that hand). Once as an AP after I insured a 7, the dealer said to me "Wow, the count must have been high, huh?" and my heart almost stopped. I made an excuse about just hoping for a push instead of having to play out the hand, but I made sure to toke him as he left just in case I didn't sell it enough.
      As for 2, most casinos limit how much you can alter your spread before they automatically shuffle specifically to limit APs. I've seen places where they limit it to 4x or even 3x your first bet out of a shoe, but there are still some casinos that don't have those limits at all. Number 3 is pretty self-explanatory: everyone at the table gets a pair of face cards for 20 and the next hand has the guy at 1st base dropping his bet from $300 to table minimum? Probably knows what he's doing.
      Because casinos don't actually need to provide a reason for barring someone from playing, they often don't provide one at all. They just tell you that the decision was made that you can't alter your bets through a shoe, or you can't play the tables anymore, and it's final. The reason they do this is exactly because of what you've suggested; they don't want to accuse someone of counting when they just got lucky with their bet spreads matching the count. Over the course of thousands or millions of hands, it's bound to happen, and when that "lucky" player then goes on social media and blasts the casino for kicking him out, it makes them look extra bad because they not only lost a player who didn't have an advantage, but now everyone thinks they brand everyone who wins as a counter and they don't want to deal with any of that.

    • @spill1987
      @spill1987 3 роки тому +1

      @@tmtmtlsml Wow, very interesting -- THANKS very much for your profound answer and explanation!

  • @SteveMHN
    @SteveMHN 3 роки тому +2

    Wait.. Are you saying they don't smash your hands with a hammer?

  • @coltonjones2398
    @coltonjones2398 2 роки тому

    That distracting the pit boss part definitely happened 7:14

  • @charlesyates6687
    @charlesyates6687 3 роки тому +5

    What gets me they can cheat and it's leagle but if you outsmart a game they get mad if you leagaly win .

    • @scottt5484
      @scottt5484 3 роки тому +1

      How is the casino cheating Charles?

    • @charlesyates6687
      @charlesyates6687 3 роки тому

      @@scottt5484 um gee most people don't know. Like card games 6 deck computer stacked theres a black half square reader on the table with a led number reader beside it .you see the dealer after each hand take the top card and slide it under the edge of the half square reader and then the computer tells the dealer how many cards to burn off the top before dealing .your not playing cards your pl as ing cards with a computer . And we all know slots are no longer a game of chans they are run buy a computer that is programed when to pay and how much .and most casinos the pay out is only 2% of the take . It's cheating is exactly what it is .

    • @scottt5484
      @scottt5484 3 роки тому +1

      @@charlesyates6687 its been awhile since I’ve played Bj in a casino but in my past experience I’ve never seen this so called computer led and burning cards etc. In what casinos is this happening? I’m highly skeptical of what your asserting here! Regarding payouts on slots, of course the gaming commission regulates that. And of course it favors the casino. Anyone who plays slots knows this. Its not “cheating”.

  • @chezzythagoat
    @chezzythagoat 4 роки тому +11

    1:33 thats my casino!

    • @chezzythagoat
      @chezzythagoat 3 роки тому +1

      @HT‏TP rising star casino resort

  • @lindencamelback2305
    @lindencamelback2305 2 роки тому +1

    Funny story about casino's In the Air Force in the late 60's in Reno, I had a woman dealer who appeared angry. She was flipping the cards so hard my way, finally one of the cards sailed by me, and hit the floor. I didn't see why I should retrieve the card, and we ended up just staring at each other. After about 30 seconds the Security Guard standing at the wall behind me who was watching both of us walked over, picked up the flying card and handed it to me. I played about another 20 minutes, got tired playing catcher, and left. As I was leaving, the Security Guard approached me and apologized for the dealer's dealing. As I was annoyed at the dealer, I also apologized to him for treating him like a flunky, which I had no right to do. Reno was a lot of laughs.

  • @veetwin75
    @veetwin75 2 роки тому +1

    makes me wonder how many people get accused of card counting when they are winning by only circumstances and luck

  • @marcelo8891
    @marcelo8891 4 роки тому +8

    Hey Collin so the casino I go to has 8 decks and it looks like they cut of 2-2.5 decks out does this affect me negatively ?

    • @rhpmike
      @rhpmike 4 роки тому +3

      You'll get fewer great counts but assuming other rules are good, it is still beatable.

  • @beetogarcia9983
    @beetogarcia9983 3 роки тому +13

    Heat? You build up the gauge and press Triangle. Ez

  • @falseking989
    @falseking989 2 роки тому

    The most important pre-ceremony back off? If the heat is causing you to make mistakes.

  • @eyefromsky2334
    @eyefromsky2334 2 роки тому

    I have worked for over 30 years in gaming in vegas and many places in this world. I have 1000 stories about casinos. And people. You are surprised. You never heard about that. but I am gonna soon make video about every think

  • @ralphrobertsonbdr779
    @ralphrobertsonbdr779 3 роки тому +3

    The only time I've every had a problem at a casino was at the Railroad pass, I was playing 10 dollars bets, doing okay then I upped my bet to 50 dollars and the pit boss had the dealer reshuffle the shoe. And I'm an amateur, I don't play black jack often and can't count cards I play on luck and instinct. I got up and walked out.

  • @sjin8896
    @sjin8896 3 роки тому +5

    I still haven’t received the confirmation email to the mini course on card counting.

  • @jeffparr6231
    @jeffparr6231 3 роки тому

    Never worry don't change what you want to do

  • @danielschroeder7897
    @danielschroeder7897 4 роки тому +1

    I read Repeat Until Rich. I read a bunch of Blackjack books as part of my training. Seems to me that Axelrad was trying to get a movie deal. Even he calls his prose "florid." There are parts of this book, especially at the beginning, where the prose is really overwrought. Not fun to read. Difficult to care about whatever is being described. There may be some lessons to learn in this book, hard for me to tell at this point in my Blackjack game.

  • @Nero691
    @Nero691 4 роки тому +5

    So if I have 5 buddies all sit at the same table and count cards would that be more affective then have them all sit at a different table

  • @NomenNescio99
    @NomenNescio99 2 роки тому +4

    If casinos are allowed to back off customers, how come a baker can't refuse to bake a wedding cake?

    • @Da_Infamous
      @Da_Infamous 2 роки тому

      Think of it like this..... I pay you 20 dollars to make me a birthday cake then I take a picture of it to sell it on one of those sites right in front of you and BAM someone offers me 50 dollars for that cake maybe just to be a dick about it I even tell you thanks I just sold this cake for 50 would you make me another cake for another 20 or.... would you raise your price

  • @bradenyoung5560
    @bradenyoung5560 3 роки тому +1

    I’m 15 and have never even seen inside a casino but I still watched the entire video and found it really interesting

  • @jasoncreighton5140
    @jasoncreighton5140 Рік тому +1

    My local casino would have the dealer wolf whistle every time I approached the BJ tables- kind like a warning to floor managers. Me being a bit of git, Id turn round and walk away...... 5 minutes later Id do again, again and again. That poor dealer was whistling like a kettle boiling.

  • @dylanram4653
    @dylanram4653 3 роки тому +43

    they legally cant back you off in new jersey casinos

    • @dustyfeetmike3257
      @dustyfeetmike3257 3 роки тому +5

      They can trespass you under the private property act set forth by whatever state the casino is in. Trust me, my casino uses it all the time 😂😂😂. And he’s right, cutting that shoe in half usually (90 percent of the time) makes people leave!

    • @dylanram4653
      @dylanram4653 3 роки тому

      @@dustyfeetmike3257 its ilegal to back someone off for card counting in new jersey, its a writern law

    • @jordennimz7468
      @jordennimz7468 3 роки тому +8

      @@dylanram4653 Doesn’t mean they can’t kick you out for “something else”

    • @dylanram4653
      @dylanram4653 3 роки тому

      @@jordennimz7468 then go to court, they wont be able to think of a valid reason if you dont give them any, record ur time there too for proof

    • @stevieoneder8091
      @stevieoneder8091 3 роки тому +7

      @@dylanram4653 a private business can refuse service to anyone for any reason other than race, religion, sex, age, disability etc. Youd be wasting your time in court

  • @joeltrain
    @joeltrain 3 роки тому +8

    What if the mob boss takes me to the back room and smashes my hand with a hammer?

    • @jonathanridder
      @jonathanridder 3 роки тому +6

      You've got two hands, right?

    • @claudreindl7275
      @claudreindl7275 3 роки тому +2

      That was just in the movie. In reality, you are more likely to get both hands smashed along with a trip out to the desert where you have plenty of time to think while walking back!

    • @hanafuda
      @hanafuda 3 роки тому

      @@jonathanridder some people have three, or four

  • @LeftRightLeftUpper
    @LeftRightLeftUpper 3 роки тому +1

    Surely its about regulating your time in the casino, time management then you will attract less attention long term

  • @solaris9426
    @solaris9426 3 роки тому +2

    What happens if you notice the heat and dial down your play for the rest of that table session in response?