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  • Опубліковано 21 лис 2024

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  • @IdentityMemes
    @IdentityMemes 2 роки тому +1039

    This is probably one of the most satisfying videos to watch on this channel

    • @chrisfinch8637
      @chrisfinch8637 2 роки тому +10

      The most satisfying and helpful videos you could ever see.

    • @albinothug
      @albinothug 2 роки тому +2

      Yeah this is legit

    • @90daydifference
      @90daydifference Рік тому

      Why did I feel the exact same way

    • @Cman250250
      @Cman250250 Рік тому

      i couldn’t stop. ok now sleeping

    • @cheeseman673
      @cheeseman673 Рік тому

      And its because of Colins lovely vest

  • @tonneblack5168
    @tonneblack5168 2 роки тому +757

    I liked that. There should have been a video window showing the discard tray so we could practice estimating the decks.

    • @Savagemister
      @Savagemister 2 роки тому +19

      good suggestion

    • @Heffey02
      @Heffey02 2 роки тому +6

      was thinking that myself

    • @officialkiwimusic
      @officialkiwimusic 2 роки тому +3

      I just found this channel so I'm trying to just get the basic card counting down I'm not doing so well but it helps when he has the running count for the next round

  • @CJGilbert
    @CJGilbert 2 роки тому +433

    This was absolutely a perfect video. I loved that We could play along to keep the count. Please make more of these. So much fun!

    • @milehighgambler
      @milehighgambler Рік тому +2

      Makes training a lot easier. I was trying to count along too

    • @caseyhoward9101
      @caseyhoward9101 11 місяців тому

      As someone who is just learning the basically strategy, I liked being able to guess when the next move should be. I was going to try counting too but gave up early.

    • @Bill-j2g
      @Bill-j2g 3 місяці тому

      ​@@caseyhoward9101learn that basic strategy. Counting will only complicate your training at this point

  • @huckleberryfinn8795
    @huckleberryfinn8795 10 місяців тому +14

    Love how yall put the running count and decks remaining on the screen in between rounds. So I can verify my accuracy when conting along.

  • @alexscott2614
    @alexscott2614 Рік тому +114

    4:46 I lost it when she split on a 20 then manages to bust, she could’ve won that hand, crazy

    • @briandraper7630
      @briandraper7630 3 місяці тому +6

      You are only supposed to split tens if you are counting and the count is high, but she wasn’t counting so no way she should have done that lol

    • @MarineAquariumNovice
      @MarineAquariumNovice 3 місяці тому +2

      @@briandraper7630never supposed to split them vs a 10 though 😅

    • @Jaych8866
      @Jaych8866 Місяць тому

      @@MarineAquariumNovice but what if the count is true +24

    • @MarineAquariumNovice
      @MarineAquariumNovice Місяць тому

      @@Jaych8866 I haven’t studied those advanced deviations but if thats the index… then send it!

  • @oreo2584
    @oreo2584 2 роки тому +35

    Lol I’m sitting here eating breakfast frustrated at her moves

  • @circleo1992
    @circleo1992 2 роки тому +19

    You really should do more videos like this. Now that you might not have any more ideas of guides on how to play Blackjack, this is a good way to get videos out.

  • @northside314
    @northside314 2 роки тому +40

    I very much liked this format. I've been with you for quite some time and this was very entertaining. Having the dynamics of different experience and playstyles was fun to watch without needing to be more concerned with my own hand and count.

  • @theentropykid
    @theentropykid 2 роки тому +16

    This is one of the best vids you’ve done so far. Just getting into blackjack and all about your page. Please more real-time vids like this! Thank you 🙏

  • @72guitarguy
    @72guitarguy 2 роки тому +14

    Colin I love your content BUT it would be cool to see this with a ploppy playing perfect basic strategy and not doing things like splitting 5s of the jump. I know the counters would likely still prevail but the ploppy could have a positive variance streak that would make it interesting. I just think it'd be a better comparison, anyways thanks again for the great content!

  • @jorrdanna6219
    @jorrdanna6219 2 роки тому +50

    This was fun to watch, and it brought home how fast the game goes, and how quickly things change.

    • @jorrdanna6219
      @jorrdanna6219 2 роки тому +1

      So I tried to count this today. I was off by 1 two separate times, and off by a lot (6,) in one hand when I forgot I was counting. I got distracted. Watching this again taught me a lot about what you were doing and when and why. I think I need to learn strategy now and keep practicing counting and see if i can do both at once. rofl.

    • @jopetsugaming1953
      @jopetsugaming1953 Рік тому

      was off by 1 at some point, but couldnt remember or didnt know basic strategy on some occasions

  • @user-vl6wp1qj3d
    @user-vl6wp1qj3d 2 роки тому +39

    I wish the dealers at a casino kept asking if we want them to deal another hand at the end of the shoe xD Nice video, good fun. If you do more, make sure to have the discard tray in the shot

    • @luisalexander8492
      @luisalexander8492 2 роки тому

      Fr I get a good count after hours then I see the discard card 😭

    • @richardyoruw992
      @richardyoruw992 6 місяців тому

      ​@@luisalexander8492❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ 17:01 ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Coyner4321
    @Coyner4321 2 роки тому +22

    I love this kind of content, I hope you guys continue to make more like it! Thank you! I do not count cards, I just enjoy playing basic strategy. Some day I'll learn to count, for me specifically it's just a lot to comprehend.

  • @ericnstuff
    @ericnstuff Рік тому +13

    Could you make/are there more of these? This passively teaches a lot about the game and is relaxing af to watch.

  • @SavagePoker81
    @SavagePoker81 2 місяці тому +1

    When I started reading and memorizing the basic strategy chart of yours last week and played yesterday a 1 card deck here in my local casino in just almost 30mins my $150 bankroll went up to $710.. Though my card counting still messing a bit but hopefully I get there soon thank you Sir!

  • @drugaddict931
    @drugaddict931 4 місяці тому +45

    Grace is just placing random bets because she knows the moneys fake

  • @Shamy702
    @Shamy702 2 роки тому +11

    The first 17 minutes was about how my sessions have been lol.. this was an awesome video guys!!!!! Love it

  • @Nico2718_
    @Nico2718_ 2 роки тому +170

    This was so entertaining! I'm not necessarily asking for anything, but it would be nice if you make those type of videos every once in a while (like few times a year) 🙂 also, I was looking for a not that aggressive bet spread, I guess I already found a 1-6 one 😅 also, since I started learning basic strategy and counting about a month ago (I don't spend that much time training a day, like 15/20 minutes) I decided to try keeping the running count on my own from the 2nd hand (I got the idea after the 1st one): I messed up twice, which is obviously very bad, but at least it was right on the 2nd hand because I got distracted and another very chaotic one. But yeah, all of that too say that it was very entertaining and also super useful, this is the first time I'm actually able to see the speed of an IRL game (I know it can vary a lot, but still), great video! 💪

    • @adamtank8819
      @adamtank8819 2 роки тому +2

      You can't beat the game with a 1-6 spread if the penetration is 1.5 decks. You need around a 1-20 spread (2 spots) to have good EV and a lower N0.

    • @adamtank8819
      @adamtank8819 2 роки тому

      If it's a single or double deck then yeah for sure, but for 6 decks you need bigger spread

    • @lqhym12700
      @lqhym12700 8 місяців тому

      玩百➕乐吗

  • @Vagorim
    @Vagorim 2 роки тому +8

    Remember guys, card counting does work you need a good bank roll, and you will lose hands but that’s where you need to place the appropriate bet. It’s all about generating positive EV and it’s a long term game. I won my last few sessions of blackjack but the time is just as much as a pro poker game. I play poker most of the time now. I every once in awhile play blackjack. But when I do I go with a solid bank roll and play strictly with counting. Lastly stay humble and stay focused no matter how fun it is if you lose the count please get off the table!!

  • @timsatterfield9752
    @timsatterfield9752 2 роки тому +1

    Been playing since 2019. Logged in 650 hours that first year, then about 100 hours the following years. Break even player even after all this time. It is what it is. The forces are strong when I am about to have a chance to get ahead!! My 2 card 20s are fun to see on the high count until…dun dun dun….hello Dealer backdoor blackjack (4) times in a row to my pocket 20s. The funniness of the casinos!

  • @Savagemister
    @Savagemister 2 роки тому +11

    MORE OF THIS, PLEASE!

  • @MetaModern-df6he
    @MetaModern-df6he 2 роки тому +4

    Great video. Oh man when she spilt the queens, I couldn’t believe it 😂 and then went bigger size on the next play. Yikes. Crazy to think some people actually play like this. Great illustration of the gambler mindset! Cheers!

    • @mikewhite735
      @mikewhite735 Рік тому

      She had a classic case of playing with other peoples money.
      No skin in the game.

  • @icydeadpeeps
    @icydeadpeeps Рік тому +9

    Echoing the sentiment that this was a great format. I'd like to see this more frequently. Some suggestions for improvement: A better view of the deck/discard so we can play along with estimating true count. Also I like the periodic updates on running count but it could be a cool way to use the annotations or a special closed caption in the video so that the count is always available updated to the most recent hand.

  • @JOEY22445
    @JOEY22445 7 місяців тому +2

    More of these. It's fun to watch and to practice counting :)

  • @CovertLego
    @CovertLego Рік тому +1

    Love when yall play, deal etc and let me count along and learn live.

  • @leon17x37
    @leon17x37 2 роки тому +20

    This was a great video thank you. I'm just starting to learn and this was cool to watch and practice in real time

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  2 роки тому +4

      Glad it was helpful!

    • @leon17x37
      @leon17x37 2 роки тому

      Brilliant. Now how good do I need to be for the boot camp?

    • @Momode1111
      @Momode1111 2 роки тому +1

      @@leon17x37 as good as you can be, so you can get tested out while youre there

  • @devdog7409
    @devdog7409 2 роки тому +11

    I lost last time I went to the casino and I was very discouraged and I started questioning if somehow I was counting the cards wrong. After being able to keep up with the count all the way through this video, it gave me my confidence back that I am at least not messing up the running count. I find it kind of hard to tell how many decks are left though and even how many are discarded at casinos. Maybe I'm messing up the true count idk. Great video though! Will come back to practice before next trip to casino.

    • @geoffpearce889
      @geoffpearce889 2 роки тому +4

      The fluctuation in just one shoe of play was very mild. I have run simulations for given rules and conditions and the sims show that you need a very large bankroll into the many thousands to achieve a certain risk of ruin. This is because losing streaks can go on for months where you lose and lose and it can make you wonder if you are doing everything right.
      It’s interesting to note that the two card counting players had outcomes where one lost and the other won, and this demonstrates that anything can happen in the short term. It’s quite possible that if more shoes were dealt, one could go on having winning hands while the other loses big time and yet each player played correctly, apart from having different bet sizing. It can take hundreds of rounds of play before your results get close to the EV of the game.

  • @ZachWalz
    @ZachWalz 2 роки тому +8

    There should be more of these videos. Very useful!

  • @DwayneS777
    @DwayneS777 2 роки тому +1

    I got to get me a vest like Colin is wearing when I hit the casinos. Love it. Pitt boss won't think I'm counting wearing that flash.

  • @troyw1000
    @troyw1000 Рік тому +5

    Just like a regular casino, Colin never busts!

    • @Jay-og4yb
      @Jay-og4yb Рік тому +3

      Last time I was in Vegas I busted on every 12
      If i had over 18 dealer pulls a 20 or 21.
      Any time i doubled an 11 it was always less than 4.
      Dealer never busted once
      So rigged

    • @troyw1000
      @troyw1000 9 місяців тому

      @@Jay-og4yb I wouldn't say rigged, just terrible variance.

  • @Michaelscott62518
    @Michaelscott62518 4 місяці тому

    I’m getting it and I barely started looking into this I love it I’m right on the count and the running count after each hand played so far will keep learning more thank you.

  • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
    @THENAMEISQUICKMAN Рік тому +2

    It was pretty entertaining watching the two counters play perfectly and your wife just play according to her whims and sometimes things just wouldn't work out for the counters while she would get lucky. It goes to show that card counting is playing the odds, but odds are just that - odds. You can profit over a career of counting if you're good, but you WILL have sessions where you lose hand after hand after hand despite playing perfectly and you *will* inevitably feel the tilt when someone who's drunk, doesn't know what they're doing and is just there to have a good time wins big lol.

  • @elmo_eman2867
    @elmo_eman2867 2 роки тому +2

    Its like yall read my mind.Ive been waiting for this channel to drop a video like this.

  • @epicvocalz7901
    @epicvocalz7901 Рік тому +1

    Still just starting out…had trouble keeping up with the RC but this video really helped with understanding how TC works

  • @U-TubeSurfer45
    @U-TubeSurfer45 Рік тому +2

    Great episode! Post more! At least once a week. These are helpfull. Watching others, that are at a lot closer to our levels, practicing. Would be great as well if you put thr card's sums and the count on the screen the entire time.

  • @MikeyD594
    @MikeyD594 2 роки тому +16

    This was really good to see how far I have gone learning how to count and convert true count, watching them bet the amount I am guessing they should was so fun
    I'd love to see more of these, and possibly with a view of the discard tray as that is probably the only part I am not too comfortable with ;D
    Love this channel, been watching for a while now and is probably the best for learning all you need to get started and I bought some of the books mentioned in some videos, really good reads ;D

  • @Randy-kh6gy
    @Randy-kh6gy 2 роки тому +2

    can you please keep making these video's very helpful for someone learning to count to keep just focused on the counting part

    • @Blackjackapprenticeship
      @Blackjackapprenticeship  2 роки тому

      We do what we can for UA-cam, but the good stuff is and will always be in our Membership area.

  • @eddie-xi6ls
    @eddie-xi6ls Рік тому +4

    Would love to see more sessions like this.

  • @dannyneff4195
    @dannyneff4195 Рік тому +1

    Bro I'm 4 seconds into this video and already I'm mesmerized by that vest, it's stunning. . . Where can I get one lol

  • @OGMaverickGaming
    @OGMaverickGaming Рік тому +1

    I learned to play blackjack on The World Is Not enough PS1 game. Ever since then I play it blackjack when I'm not too busy. My win rate is pretty high despite not learning to count cards in the traditional sense.

  • @Koum_Bets
    @Koum_Bets 2 роки тому +2

    I was just at the casino counting cards. Had my first losing session in about 2 months. No matter how many times I lose, it totally sucks. I was in a great winning streak from Vegas to the near by casinos. But it's too to know how the pros do it. I'm a little off on my wager. It's good to know the value you put on the hands. Thanks

  • @sebastiandierks7919
    @sebastiandierks7919 Рік тому +2

    SD1 surrendering 88 v T above a true 1, very nice. Didn't know that deviation.

  • @srikothur2845
    @srikothur2845 Рік тому

    I would love to see more content like this. Videos of people not following basic strategy juxtaposed to top notch advantage play to everything in between. That would get Stephen Bridges numbers. Please give it some thought regardless of whether you already have.

  • @savagenez9584
    @savagenez9584 Рік тому +1

    This was awesome to watch! Love the dealer vest 😂

  • @casynoel874
    @casynoel874 2 роки тому +4

    This is a awesome video, you guys should really do more like these!!!!! Very helpful!

  • @chrisfinch8637
    @chrisfinch8637 2 роки тому +4

    Never seen it like this before (well, except for “Telly Savalas’ ABC’s of Blackjack” players). Nicely well done, Colin and all of Blackjack Apprenticeship.

  • @GenXisT
    @GenXisT Рік тому +1

    SUPER helpful on how do to the betting spread and when. Also was able to keep the count along with the vid in a "live" play scenario, even with distractions. Thanks for this one!

  • @hoddo33
    @hoddo33 Рік тому +1

    Interesting, instructional, entertaining and humorous. Great stuff.

  • @stevenhogg4913
    @stevenhogg4913 2 роки тому +1

    absolutely loved this!
    hopefully becomes a new feature of the channel.

  • @Jeremy_the_bot
    @Jeremy_the_bot 2 роки тому

    Really enjoyed watching this. Wish you would do it again. Love Loudon. Guy won't stfu.

  • @paragrin8385
    @paragrin8385 2 роки тому +2

    i was able to keep up for quite a bit of it. would be awesome to see more of this type of video

    • @paragrin8385
      @paragrin8385 2 роки тому

      would be great to demonstrate variance as well.

  • @JN24185
    @JN24185 Рік тому

    Yeah, I find the actual witnessing the application of the strategy combined with the card counting is the most helpful form of teaching. Personally.

  • @odehTV
    @odehTV 3 дні тому

    More of this please, great practice

  • @lulubj
    @lulubj Рік тому

    ....but 1st and 3rd base, "the counters" were 'scared' to bet the ramp....multiple times no less.....AMATEURS!!!!

  • @KR6Ds5
    @KR6Ds5 Рік тому +1

    Loved being able to practice my counting

  • @WeDoNotCare1
    @WeDoNotCare1 2 роки тому +1

    At 9:30 they say "I need a reverse fill", for anyone curious, in the casino industry, we call those "table credits" instead of "table fills" :)

  • @D_J_F_4
    @D_J_F_4 2 роки тому +4

    This is great! Would love to see more of the live action example videos like this.

  • @Caneyhead123
    @Caneyhead123 2 роки тому +1

    Respect SD1 for witty table talk while counting and playing. Thx for tips at BC.

  • @briandraper7630
    @briandraper7630 3 місяці тому

    That was great thanks Colin. I use the KO system and counted along with you guys and had the same deviations etc. as Loudon did. My max bet would have been out a little sooner based on the KO, but other than that, it was very similar, so that was good to see

    • @briandraper7630
      @briandraper7630 3 місяці тому

      Also the 88 I would have surrendered also based on the count or stand if surrender wasn’t available

  • @RegiDawn
    @RegiDawn Рік тому +1

    Pretty please make loads more of these! Thanks!

  • @jeffcoulam
    @jeffcoulam Рік тому

    I really liked this video! Can you do some more please? One counter and two gamblers, and the gamblers do not know the others are counting.

  • @xpsgc
    @xpsgc 5 місяців тому

    this was fantastic - more of this please!

  • @hawkhunter3256
    @hawkhunter3256 Рік тому +2

    I've realised that is much easier than I thought. I noticed that when you are not counting every card individually, it's so much easier. In addition, by just thinking of the number, not the calculation itself. You have enough time for the rest.

  • @chocolateknife7
    @chocolateknife7 6 місяців тому

    Hope you would release another similar vid but with card totals and individual balance. Can be handy for beginners trying to follow through

  • @mattzahab2946
    @mattzahab2946 Рік тому

    Never played competitive black jack. Gkad i fell upon your video. High five 4s 3s n 2s on anyting make it a rush for myself. Sometime we are own demise.

  • @TheOneKvick
    @TheOneKvick Рік тому

    Another day at the office where dealer keeps pulling 10's 😂 .
    Such a great video, thanks 🙏

  • @SmittyToked
    @SmittyToked 8 місяців тому +2

    While I was able to count the cards, I still don’t think I would be able to pull that off while actively playing basic strategy.

  • @jeffmcloud9018
    @jeffmcloud9018 2 роки тому +2

    Love it!!!! More videos like this, please!!

  • @FlightofElixirs
    @FlightofElixirs Місяць тому

    Great video. Will watch again. Was fun

  • @ceduro109
    @ceduro109 2 роки тому

    Pls post more movies like that. I love watching this game in this format

  • @payterrrrrrrrr
    @payterrrrrrrrr 10 місяців тому

    I really liked this video and I wish there was more of it!

  • @Mr123llac
    @Mr123llac 2 роки тому

    When you deal, you deal left to right, when you pay, you pay right to left. You dealt and paid left to right.
    Otherwise, good video really enjoyed it.

  • @mumbles2840
    @mumbles2840 5 місяців тому

    “I need a reverse fill” its referred to as a credit when you send chips back to the cage. Although its mostly when you close out a table for a bit.

  • @MarinosHindkjr
    @MarinosHindkjr Рік тому

    Unreal. Busted after 13 hands. That looks like the casino has counted the cards!

  • @calebw1
    @calebw1 Рік тому

    Interesting to count halves while you count hi-lo. There were lots of 5's and 7's at the beginning of the shoe making for a wide disparity--but I came to zero at the end with the rest of you.

  • @TravvyDaddy
    @TravvyDaddy 10 місяців тому

    Amazing video, but I must say the no-insurance call at 9:14 was questionable. The count did drop at the end of the deal but the dealer’s face down card was dealt when the true count was still 3, so when I saw that I called insurance. But tougher to catch in the heat of the moment

  • @DJ_Sweat
    @DJ_Sweat 2 роки тому +1

    This was a great video! Keep making ones like this, it is very helpful

  • @zakkwyldesdmf13
    @zakkwyldesdmf13 Рік тому +1

    I just enjoy blackjack and card counting for fun. Hence my questions:
    1. Is the playing speed "in real life" ususally similar to the speed here?
    2. How do you execute the count - card by card or the first four cards (players and dealer) and then the second three cards (players) together?

  • @paymansharifi2445
    @paymansharifi2445 Рік тому +5

    I loved Colin's face
    I can tell he's torn cause his wife is losing
    But also happy she's losing cause she's playing wrong hahahaha

  • @volden4902
    @volden4902 Рік тому

    These types of videos are great for practice I'd say

  • @007motu
    @007motu Рік тому

    I liked this video the best - I like to see blackjack being played but with how much is being bet and why - and the result of pro vs amateurs. As well as card counting. Please do more of such videos. There are so many blackjack videos on UA-cam that actually show people playing incorrectly. Thanks

  • @johnharrington7270
    @johnharrington7270 2 роки тому

    As a counter. This is fun and amazing. As a dealer this is hard to watch and your procedures are all wrong 😂

  • @HeroDelta
    @HeroDelta Рік тому

    This video was awesome ! Can we get some more of these please 🙏

  • @egal1780
    @egal1780 Місяць тому

    So that's what it's for! I should use it for practise...

  • @tigerguy1013
    @tigerguy1013 4 місяці тому

    I’ll go to a table just to watch the dealer half the time. They’re so fun to watch

  • @WholeGrain632
    @WholeGrain632 Рік тому

    Loved it! Want a bit smaller and maybe some commentary Training since I’m just starting

  • @adamtank8819
    @adamtank8819 2 роки тому

    Haha colin's commentary is brilliant. Love it.

  • @dtank5102
    @dtank5102 2 роки тому +1

    Yessss we need more of these!!

  • @UnearthedNSX
    @UnearthedNSX 2 роки тому +2

    Would have been great to see the APs spread to 2 hands but still a great video

  • @jasonlongsworth4036
    @jasonlongsworth4036 2 роки тому

    This was great! Do more of this with different cameos

  • @TheBestMan77777
    @TheBestMan77777 3 місяці тому

    Excellent video, very enjoyable and I’m still a counting pro haha

  • @vorlonzevatron7142
    @vorlonzevatron7142 Рік тому

    I use Uston advanced point count. The true count is almost twice as high into the mid game. For example at 9:15 it is 28 divided by remaining half deck number and is greater than 2.5. Hi lo is a little less than 3 not high enough to take insurance.

  • @OCHOCINCO98
    @OCHOCINCO98 5 місяців тому

    Best video so far🔥🔥🔥

  • @universegalaxyuniversegalaxy

    The person in the middle is the greatest black jack player of all time .

  • @JackPot-qb1mh
    @JackPot-qb1mh 2 роки тому

    Video concept is great, I like how you dealt EXTREMELY slow. 😁

    • @jasonlongsworth4036
      @jasonlongsworth4036 2 роки тому

      A shoe in 20 minutes is pretty standard, no?

    • @JackPot-qb1mh
      @JackPot-qb1mh 2 роки тому

      @@jasonlongsworth4036 I was referring to the pace of what was being dealt. It just doesn't remind me of any blackjack I've played at the casino, but this was an excellent video for those who may want to get their feet wet.

  • @johnsonmaurice98
    @johnsonmaurice98 2 роки тому +1

    I’m just a newbie bad BS player but this was fun to watch

  • @chchr21
    @chchr21 Рік тому +1

    Hey Colin. Loved the video. Big fan here.
    My only question about the video is when do you guys consider a good idea to surrender 8,8? In your charts it doesn't say and SD1 surrendered one of those and you approved so I guess it is suggested to treat it as a 16 Index or is there another index to be considered?
    Thank you kindly in advance. Still hoping to see more long videos from you guys and hopefully you can do one about the math behind playing 2 spots in our spread.

  • @KubanKevin
    @KubanKevin 3 місяці тому +1

    Splitting that 20 had me screaming internally

  • @tryptix
    @tryptix 2 роки тому +1

    excellent, more of these! 🙂

  • @crummydryver
    @crummydryver 2 роки тому +1

    More of these, please.