in stead of having 6 to 8 pads of each type now only 2 of them each is more than enough this thing is one of the best detailing tool and it is so underrated to clean and cool your pads after each pass in 15 second, be able to polish the whole car with only one pad is priceless, this is the best thing happen to auto detailing industry thank you so much lake country for not only creating best pads in the industry also the best cleaning tool for them. well done
I'm so glad this exists...back in '93 when I started detailing, all we had were rotary buffers with the big fluffy wool pads...every couple panels or so, we'd hold it upside down, spin it up and stick a screwdriver into the fibers and let it spin out dried compound dust all over the shop......we never once would have considered putting liquid on our pads during a compounding session...my, what we have learned over 30 years...lol
Great video. I have one of those. I bought it 2 weeks ago. An absolute gem... my pads are really clean and I keep going. Much better than take a pressure washer and blasting the compound out. Not recommended. Destroys the backing plate after awhile
This video is timely for me, I just got my pad washer yesterday and can't wait to try it. Will be so nice to use 1 or 2 pads for a whole vehicle rather than swap multiple times. Should save the velcro backing plate too. Very nice 😀
Thanks for this very thorough video. I just received mine yesterday and am itching to try it. But, I must go shopping with the wife right now. Maybe later. Hehehe
It's genuinely an excellent solution to an everyday detailing problem. Stocks are low at the moment so it might be tricky to find one, but more of these will be available soon - keep checking with your favorite detailing equipment supplier!
The snappy clean boost powder works great! 👍. To clean my pads I have the professional pad washer from Meguiar's (sorry 😉), so I have a water solution with 60ml of chemical guys microfiber wash in a spray, I spray the solution on the pads and let it act for a few minutes , then I run each pad in the Meguiar's washer with the snappy solution, then I rinse them well under the tap and I let it dry, and here it is like new !. At times I dry them at speed 6, then with a microfiber at speed 2, and can return to work directly.
I always use Snappy Clean with our pad washer personally (Jay B here), but not too much, maybe a quarter sachet per bucket. Just enough for it to break down the oils in the compound residue. Glad you're finding it works well for you too :)
Used mine for the first time today. Followed this video to a T and not getting quite the same results. It does seem to clean well, but it definitely doesn’t come out dry like his. Also when you dry, it really does sling water over the edge. Not a ton, but does happen and wish there was a blocker on this model. Can only use this at the end of polishing cause my pads are not coming out dry at all
When Kelly uses the pad washer in the video he demonstrates that you can clean pads effectively using only 4 to 6 pumps of solution (ua-cam.com/video/5qZm67t71dw/v-deo.html), and although the drying sequence was shortened slightly for editing reasons the footage is otherwise exactly 'as it happened' in the demonstration, no trickery involved. Pumping less to begin with may be the answer here, but also don't forget to lift the pad just a tiny amount off the wash plate so that it's beneath the yellow lip, and keep it level, to minimize splashing.
Looks like an AWESOME tool to use, very Impressed how clean the pads get and DRY. I am using the old school method, dish soap under warm water. I had a question . . . . . . . . . . . how much water is recommended to put into the bucket and how long does the water last? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the comment and questions :) I like to put just enough water in the black bucket that it almost reaches the underside of the blue internal catch bucket - that's just under 4 inches / 10 cm of water depth. That amount goes a long way and will clean many dozens of pads; you only need to change the water if it's been left a long time and starts going funky. Generally, I clean the whole unit out (including the accumulated compound gunk in the catch bucket) every time I change the water (or refill). Pro tip: take care not to lose sight of the sealing bung when you assemble and disassemble the product, as it can get knocked off when you pull/push the pipe through, and you don't want to lose it! Jay @ LC
@@LakeCountryManufacturing Great Advice thank you for the pro tip. U see its those little things that Really matter especially at that price point. It's definitely not cheap but.....I feel it will be worth it and hopefully it'll last a long time.
It can, sure. I like to rinse mine out with a hose, and then wipe down with IPA. Always be careful when taking the unit apart that you don't lose the rubber bung (or blast it halfway down the street with a jet wash).
The other video suggests only using the snappy pad cleaner at the end of a day's polishing, and to use just plain water if using during polishing process? I know it's a small detail, but does it make much difference?
I really want to buy the system 4000 here in europe, but I wait now since february 2021 for availability! A lot of Detailing-Shops have it already listed but all Out-of-Stock in Backorder. When I ask them always the same answer: LC promised us on the next delivery there will be a few... disappointing, to say the least!
Hi Manuel, Jay B here - I've shared your comment with the team at our US headquarters and we're sorry to hear you've not been able to get hold of a System 4000 yet. Can you please get in touch with me so we can discuss directly and try and help? Email me: tech.help@lakecountrymfg.com
There should be no water getting into the electrical parts, just the same as no compound getting into these parts which also contains a liquid base. We've not received any feedback of damage like this but please refer to your tools instructions.
QUESTION, that pad wasn’t rinsed out with water it still has detergent in the pad, how is that going to adversely affect the polish or compound? Plus that pad is not 100% dry….
Thanks for your question :) Basically, after a good spin to fling out the moisture, the pad was sufficiently dry (with sufficiently little residual detergent) that it would make next to no difference when the pad gets used again. A big improvement over clogged and dirty!
Thanks for the valuable information. Thinking of buying the 4000 along with a set of HDO or SDO pads(blue, orange, black foam).Which would you recommend and how many of each for covering one large vechicle? Using the Rupes Duetto and Flex PXE. So 12 mm throw for 3 and 5 inch pads. I am looking for effective, smooth, easy to clean between HDO and SDO. I see it as an one time investment and taking care of the pads with the 4000 system. Therefore lets ignore the price difference between the pads. Thanks again!
Generally speaking you'll use more cutting pads than finishing pads. They dish out, and withstand, a lot more force and effort. If cost isn't a factor I'd say you're genuinely best off buying two of each type (HDO and SDO). Both will work for you, but you'll quickly decide which one suits your style best. Don't ignore the microfiber options though. With your technique dialled in, they can be real time-savers. The HDO Pro Pack is another good way to try out something 'professional' before committing to a full range setup.
Thanks and point taken. I will give it a try on both Sdo and hdo, so I can decide. I am hesitating on microfiber, because of the higher cut level. And How can I compare the process between Blue foam and Microfiber and orange foam and microfiber in terms of passes, pressure,machine level, longevity, cleaning and vibrations... Thanks again, like the channel.
Great question! As with all of our products, retailers tend to pick and choose which they prefer to carry. Reach out to your favorite retailer and see when they expect to see a shipment or orders coming.
My only question about the system 4000 as you clean the pads and the pads have residue wouldn't the system get contaminated as well when constantly cleaning the pad for every panel ?
Hi, so I’ve been using the lake country 3000d and that sling everywhere when you’re cleaning and drying the pads. Hard to keep the top close also when cleaning. This new model doesn’t have the top cover so I’m wondering is it really not going to sling water everywhere when you clean and dry the pads??
Hey there! If you a) don't over-saturate the pad (Kelly uses roughly 4 pumps) and b) start off with a lower speed setting when you're ready to dry, increasing it gradually and making sure the pad is below the yellow ring, that's the best way to minimize any chance of water slinging out.
It will depend on the type of pad you're using, what compound, how aggressive you are etc. Basically when your pad is clogged or dirty, if it's slowing you down or causing problems, cleaning it might be a good idea!
Bought one that’s been rebranded by mckees 37. But i recently learned that the clear coat that gets bound up in the pad can’t be removed by washing. Is this true?
You can or use it to extend the life out of your pad, we wanted to show that using a clean pad throughout the entire car, makes your life actually easier.
Yes - if you want to, you could do that. It's up to you! In our shop we still keep multiple pads to hand and spread the wear and tear, but the System 4000 Pad Washer is a valuable time-saving addition :)
@12:15 you cant? instead of spraying the cleaner on with the bucket, you can also use a normal pump spray head and turn the pad dry in the bucket, saving $200 😅
I love using this pad cleaner but I can’t ever seem to get my pads completely dry and then it makes removing polish a lot more difficult. Am I doing something wrong?
At a guess, either it's too wet to begin with (most pads only need 4 - 6 pumps) or it's not being spun fast enough / long enough after. The chances are that you won't get a strictly bone dry result, but as you saw in the video - which was not staged or faked in any way - your pads should come out dry enough that pressing them against your shirt should not leave a damp impression.
I have never used a microfiber pad. How is this better than the Grit Guard pad washer? I ask because I have the Grit Guard and I really don't find it works well.
The System 4000 uses Pure Flo Technology that separates the new cleaning solution from the old and used solution, resulting in a fresh clean pad every time. The Grit Guard does not have this technology so you need to change your water more frequently to not contaminate your pad. Also, the surface of the Grit Guard is more abrasive, increasing the risk of pad damage. Hope this helps!
I can't resist the temptation to say 'the *two* *bucket* method'.... see what I did there?! Seriously though, microfiber cloths and APC or IPA should do the trick, and try to clean it out often enough so that you avoid a compound sludge building up anywhere.
You absolutely can, in fact we hear from a lot of detailers who do exactly that - use lots of pads and then clean them all with System 4000 afterwards. Hey, if you want to buy lots of pads, don't let us stop you! :D
everything this guy does makes it seem so complex and hard to technical he can't even open the package like he's never touched one before. anyone can over complex something even tying shoelaces make it easy and simple jesus
Wow 8:30 seconds on pad contamination....Blah...Blah... get to the cleaning solution system. You still have dirty water in the bucket and you still pump dirty water on the pad... you should have two buckets. One to clean, and one to wash out.
Hi Robert - the inner catch bucket is sealed, so that the dirty water remains separate from the cleaning solution. Hopefully that makes more sense now :)
@@LakeCountryManufacturing I wouldn’t say it’s “seal” as the 3000d water falls down through the long tube even with the filter and all 4 screw are on so it’s very frustrating
This is great and all but there’s no reason for a pad washer made out of plastic to cost $160. That’s ridiculous for plastic positive displacement water pump and drum that mounts to a bucket.
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in stead of having 6 to 8 pads of each type now only 2 of them each is more than enough this thing is one of the best detailing tool and it is so underrated
to clean and cool your pads after each pass in 15 second, be able to polish the whole car with only one pad is priceless, this is the best thing happen to auto detailing industry
thank you so much lake country for not only creating best pads in the industry also the best cleaning tool for them. well done
It's awesome to keep hearing this kind of feedback, thank you!
I'm so glad this exists...back in '93 when I started detailing, all we had were rotary buffers with the big fluffy wool pads...every couple panels or so, we'd hold it upside down, spin it up and stick a screwdriver into the fibers and let it spin out dried compound dust all over the shop......we never once would have considered putting liquid on our pads during a compounding session...my, what we have learned over 30 years...lol
Great video. I have one of those. I bought it 2 weeks ago. An absolute gem... my pads are really clean and I keep going. Much better than take a pressure washer and blasting the compound out. Not recommended. Destroys the backing plate after awhile
Awesome, we're glad you're getting on well with it :)
This video is timely for me, I just got my pad washer yesterday and can't wait to try it. Will be so nice to use 1 or 2 pads for a whole vehicle rather than swap multiple times. Should save the velcro backing plate too. Very nice 😀
I have 2 system 4000 pad washers and they are an absolute essential for the pro detailer
I know, right?! Seriously though - thanks for the feedback and we're glad System 4000 has proven to be an essential part of your setup 🙂
Awesome video kelly can’t wait to try my pad washer I got today.
Hope you like it!
great video Kelly..been using mine a few months now...awesome !!!
Great to hear!
Thanks for this very thorough video. I just received mine yesterday and am itching to try it. But, I must go shopping with the wife right now. Maybe later. Hehehe
All about priorities!
Thanks for the video guys keep them
Coming!
We will!
You really urge me to buy one !! 😀 thank you bringing a innovations.
It's genuinely an excellent solution to an everyday detailing problem. Stocks are low at the moment so it might be tricky to find one, but more of these will be available soon - keep checking with your favorite detailing equipment supplier!
The snappy clean boost powder works great! 👍. To clean my pads I have the professional pad washer from Meguiar's (sorry 😉), so I have a water solution with 60ml of chemical guys microfiber wash in a spray, I spray the solution on the pads and let it act for a few minutes , then I run each pad in the Meguiar's washer with the snappy solution, then I rinse them well under the tap and I let it dry, and here it is like new !. At times I dry them at speed 6, then with a microfiber at speed 2, and can return to work directly.
I always use Snappy Clean with our pad washer personally (Jay B here), but not too much, maybe a quarter sachet per bucket. Just enough for it to break down the oils in the compound residue. Glad you're finding it works well for you too :)
I use these same pads and I just wash them out with water and dish soap and they come out great!
Old school! Sometimes that can be therapeutic :)
@@LakeCountryManufacturing agreed!
Used mine for the first time today. Followed this video to a T and not getting quite the same results. It does seem to clean well, but it definitely doesn’t come out dry like his. Also when you dry, it really does sling water over the edge. Not a ton, but does happen and wish there was a blocker on this model. Can only use this at the end of polishing cause my pads are not coming out dry at all
When Kelly uses the pad washer in the video he demonstrates that you can clean pads effectively using only 4 to 6 pumps of solution (ua-cam.com/video/5qZm67t71dw/v-deo.html), and although the drying sequence was shortened slightly for editing reasons the footage is otherwise exactly 'as it happened' in the demonstration, no trickery involved.
Pumping less to begin with may be the answer here, but also don't forget to lift the pad just a tiny amount off the wash plate so that it's beneath the yellow lip, and keep it level, to minimize splashing.
Wow I'm sold! Thanks!!
Any time!
Looks like an AWESOME tool to use, very Impressed how clean the pads get and DRY. I am using the old school method, dish soap under warm water. I had a question . . . . . . . . . . . how much water is recommended to put into the bucket and how long does the water last? Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the comment and questions :)
I like to put just enough water in the black bucket that it almost reaches the underside of the blue internal catch bucket - that's just under 4 inches / 10 cm of water depth. That amount goes a long way and will clean many dozens of pads; you only need to change the water if it's been left a long time and starts going funky. Generally, I clean the whole unit out (including the accumulated compound gunk in the catch bucket) every time I change the water (or refill). Pro tip: take care not to lose sight of the sealing bung when you assemble and disassemble the product, as it can get knocked off when you pull/push the pipe through, and you don't want to lose it!
Jay @ LC
@@LakeCountryManufacturing Great Advice thank you for the pro tip. U see its those little things that Really matter especially at that price point. It's definitely not cheap but.....I feel it will be worth it and hopefully it'll last a long time.
Love my pad washer. Can it be completely disassembled easily enough to clean?
It can, sure. I like to rinse mine out with a hose, and then wipe down with IPA. Always be careful when taking the unit apart that you don't lose the rubber bung (or blast it halfway down the street with a jet wash).
@@LakeCountryManufacturing Already lost it cleaning it before. Are replacements available? I bought some generic ones but they're not a great fit
The other video suggests only using the snappy pad cleaner at the end of a day's polishing, and to use just plain water if using during polishing process? I know it's a small detail, but does it make much difference?
You can do either, but adding Snappy Clean Boost will give you a stronger cleaning action from the detergents.
Great video guys. Is using warm/ hot liquid problematic? Where can I buy this and when. I'm commenting at 10:30 so if you say this later I apologize
We haven't had any issues with hot water in our years of testing. We typically recommend room temperature.
I really want to buy the system 4000 here in europe, but I wait now since february 2021 for availability! A lot of Detailing-Shops have it already listed but all Out-of-Stock in Backorder. When I ask them always the same answer: LC promised us on the next delivery there will be a few... disappointing, to say the least!
Hi Manuel, Jay B here - I've shared your comment with the team at our US headquarters and we're sorry to hear you've not been able to get hold of a System 4000 yet. Can you please get in touch with me so we can discuss directly and try and help? Email me: tech.help@lakecountrymfg.com
Great idea thank you
You're welcome, we hope the demonstrations were helpful :)
Brian @ Apex Detail has literally the identical cabinet blow out setup.. I wonder who did it first? 🤔 Good stuff, thanks! 😁👍
You bet!
i built my system back in 2015
@@KDSKeltecTV love your style Kelly. Great videos you guys make
By the way, Michael Caine called, he wants his accent back 🤣
Can u use tap water or distillate? What do u prefer
Tap water is fine
Hi LC, would doing this damage my DA? In this case a Rupes BigFoot, more specifically water getting into the machine or spinning it freely to dry
There should be no water getting into the electrical parts, just the same as no compound getting into these parts which also contains a liquid base. We've not received any feedback of damage like this but please refer to your tools instructions.
QUESTION, that pad wasn’t rinsed out with water it still has detergent in the pad, how is that going to adversely affect the polish or compound? Plus that pad is not 100% dry….
Thanks for your question :)
Basically, after a good spin to fling out the moisture, the pad was sufficiently dry (with sufficiently little residual detergent) that it would make next to no difference when the pad gets used again. A big improvement over clogged and dirty!
Thanks for the valuable information.
Thinking of buying the 4000 along with a set of HDO or SDO pads(blue, orange, black foam).Which would you recommend and how many of each for covering one large vechicle? Using the Rupes Duetto and Flex PXE. So 12 mm throw for 3 and 5 inch pads. I am looking for effective, smooth, easy to clean between HDO and SDO. I see it as an one time investment and taking care of the pads with the 4000 system. Therefore lets ignore the price difference between the pads. Thanks again!
Generally speaking you'll use more cutting pads than finishing pads. They dish out, and withstand, a lot more force and effort. If cost isn't a factor I'd say you're genuinely best off buying two of each type (HDO and SDO). Both will work for you, but you'll quickly decide which one suits your style best.
Don't ignore the microfiber options though. With your technique dialled in, they can be real time-savers. The HDO Pro Pack is another good way to try out something 'professional' before committing to a full range setup.
Thanks and point taken. I will give it a try on both Sdo and hdo, so I can decide.
I am hesitating on microfiber, because of the higher cut level.
And How can I compare the process between Blue foam and Microfiber and orange foam and microfiber in terms of passes, pressure,machine level, longevity, cleaning and vibrations...
Thanks again, like the channel.
Great video...makes sense when you think about it. Will this be available from all LC stockists on March 3rd?
Great question! As with all of our products, retailers tend to pick and choose which they prefer to carry. Reach out to your favorite retailer and see when they expect to see a shipment or orders coming.
My only question about the system 4000 as you clean the pads and the pads have residue wouldn't the system get contaminated as well when constantly cleaning the pad for every panel ?
Nope! The dirty water is held in the internal catch bucket, so only the clean water / cleaning solution gets pumped up :)
Should you change water with various products........such as compound, polish, wax/sealant?
No need, the water pumped up is always clean.
@@LakeCountryManufacturing ...... Thank you.
Hi, so I’ve been using the lake country 3000d and that sling everywhere when you’re cleaning and drying the pads. Hard to keep the top close also when cleaning. This new model doesn’t have the top cover so I’m wondering is it really not going to sling water everywhere when you clean and dry the pads??
Hey there! If you a) don't over-saturate the pad (Kelly uses roughly 4 pumps) and b) start off with a lower speed setting when you're ready to dry, increasing it gradually and making sure the pad is below the yellow ring, that's the best way to minimize any chance of water slinging out.
How often do the pads need to be cleaned? after each pass or after each car section?
It will depend on the type of pad you're using, what compound, how aggressive you are etc. Basically when your pad is clogged or dirty, if it's slowing you down or causing problems, cleaning it might be a good idea!
Bought one that’s been rebranded by mckees 37. But i recently learned that the clear coat that gets bound up in the pad can’t be removed by washing. Is this true?
It doesn't sound correct at all.
Which device are you using to check the painted surface via a microscopic camera? Please share...
www.bodelin.com/proscope/
Would it be alright for a begginer to pair a set of HDO pads with a smaller throw machine? Like a 9mm and 8mm DA machines
SDO on a 9mm or 8mm machine, HDO is designed for 15mm throws and larger. SDO is a perfect pad to learn and grow with!
@@LakeCountryManufacturing great, thanks for the reply!
So basically you can use 1 pad for the whole car? Just curious.
You can or use it to extend the life out of your pad, we wanted to show that using a clean pad throughout the entire car, makes your life actually easier.
I would have thought you could use less pads for sure. Thought it was a bit of a gimmick at first, but it's clearly a very useful tool to have
So does this eliminate the need to rotate through multiple pads (i.e. 4-5 orange cutting pads) for each stage of correction?
Yes - if you want to, you could do that. It's up to you! In our shop we still keep multiple pads to hand and spread the wear and tear, but the System 4000 Pad Washer is a valuable time-saving addition :)
@@LakeCountryManufacturing how many pads do you guys use per stage of correction?
@12:15 you cant? instead of spraying the cleaner on with the bucket, you can also use a normal pump spray head and turn the pad dry in the bucket, saving $200 😅
I love using this pad cleaner but I can’t ever seem to get my pads completely dry and then it makes removing polish a lot more difficult. Am I doing something wrong?
At a guess, either it's too wet to begin with (most pads only need 4 - 6 pumps) or it's not being spun fast enough / long enough after. The chances are that you won't get a strictly bone dry result, but as you saw in the video - which was not staged or faked in any way - your pads should come out dry enough that pressing them against your shirt should not leave a damp impression.
I have never used a microfiber pad. How is this better than the Grit Guard pad washer? I ask because I have the Grit Guard and I really don't find it works well.
The System 4000 uses Pure Flo Technology that separates the new cleaning solution from the old and used solution, resulting in a fresh clean pad every time. The Grit Guard does not have this technology so you need to change your water more frequently to not contaminate your pad. Also, the surface of the Grit Guard is more abrasive, increasing the risk of pad damage. Hope this helps!
Everything was so serious until ET phone home
Gotta have a little fun sometimes!
What's the process for cleaning the pad washer?
I can't resist the temptation to say 'the *two* *bucket* method'.... see what I did there?! Seriously though, microfiber cloths and APC or IPA should do the trick, and try to clean it out often enough so that you avoid a compound sludge building up anywhere.
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Thank you!
Why dontvyouvjust use multiple page then clean at the end like you do with towels
You absolutely can, in fact we hear from a lot of detailers who do exactly that - use lots of pads and then clean them all with System 4000 afterwards. Hey, if you want to buy lots of pads, don't let us stop you! :D
Did anyone else come here expecting info on how to clean headphone pads?
I guess the algorithms had a bad day! Thanks for stopping by all the same! :)
just like mixing he had to shake it then put his hand in it please get someone to make it easy quick and simple its soap my gosh
Omg ET 😆
Don't forget to phone home.
everything this guy does makes it seem so complex and hard to technical he can't even open the package like he's never touched one before. anyone can over complex something even tying shoelaces make it easy and simple jesus
Wow 8:30 seconds on pad contamination....Blah...Blah... get to the cleaning solution system. You still have dirty water in the bucket and you still pump dirty water on the pad... you should have two buckets. One to clean, and one to wash out.
Hi Robert - the inner catch bucket is sealed, so that the dirty water remains separate from the cleaning solution. Hopefully that makes more sense now :)
@@LakeCountryManufacturing I wouldn’t say it’s “seal” as the 3000d water falls down through the long tube even with the filter and all 4 screw are on so it’s very frustrating
This is great and all but there’s no reason for a pad washer made out of plastic to cost $160. That’s ridiculous for plastic positive displacement water pump and drum that mounts to a bucket.