i wish salt one just slowed down and reacted for the ledge trapping opportunities. i think mk leo got back on stage way too much for free. i do appreciate the strong roy though
SaltOne played pretty well. I think you have to take advantage of your opportunities when Joker is in disadvantage, and play patient any time that Arsene is out. I think with some film study and practice SaltOne could’ve taken a match or two off Leo.
Damn I feel like Kola could've won that first set if he had the match up knowledge and parried the 2nd hit of the down smash with Arsen, it would've let to a jab back air kill confirm. But damn Leo had him literally read like a book. Read all of his rolls, pristine edge guarding, proper use of his counter to hike up his Arsen meter and those crazy strings. Great match up, I'd like to see how well Kola would do now that he has 2 more characters in his pocket.
You know what I respect the most about MKLeo, the fact that not many people are that good with Joker, but Leo has severely trained and adapted to mastering him. This isn't like with Diddy Kong where everybody was flocking over as soon as ZeRo got good with him.
I think salt played well also, but if you gonna use a fire emblem character against someone who is so AGGRO, you need to utilize them counters man.... It's high risk high reward
If you mess it up, joker is a character who has sooo many combos that start with upthrow or downthrow plus leo's reflexes are nasty. You mess up the counter - and leo will catch on if you abuse it - and you just lost 50-60 %
jokers recovery doesnt have active hit boxes with arsen and and without the tether could hit the counter but not joker and a counter missed in neutral would be severely punished due to lots of endlag
@TEDnator @N8 @ErickELITE Look, all Im saying is, - Roy is strong ASF - You are playing as Roy - You are playing against an aggresive player - You have a tool that can punish aggresion - Punish their aggression at LEAST ONCE !!?? Ofc using a counter at the wrong moment Will get you punished - that's obvious.. But using at the right time just comes with being a good player. If he used his counter more, or at least situationally, that could add to more mind games also. Because with more mind games he could make MKLeo think twice when approaching sometimes..
@@amala1333 He's top tier because he's a complete character like Wolf and Lucina. Many pros said he was high tier because they didn't want to assume he was top.
MKLEO inspired me to play Joker, I’ve picked him up and is doing my 1st tourney tomorrow and thanks to the motivation to do good I’ve bumped by gsp from 2 mil to 5 mil the highest I’ve ever gotten Leo is great and I can’t wait to see even more from him
Well, it's decent. What Sean said and they're also good for quick attack interruptions. Its pretty good, but there are definitely more solid specials in Ultimate, like pacmans & snakes N-spec.
There's probably a clause in Leo's contract that says he can never allow a match to get exciting. If he doesn't shut down the other player with no contest he can actually lose most of his pay.
This guy has a clean Roy, but he should've used his counter. There were a few times his counter could've got him up a stock. Never forget to use it when you need to.
I don’t like Joker man, I’m not saying Mkleo is getting carried cuz he was a beast way before Joker was released, but when everyone fears Arsene more than anything in this game and an astounding amount of people are either dropping their mains for or co-maiming Joker, I think it’s safe to say there’s a problem with the character
Tetrakarn is busted. He starts with meter his second and third stock. Arsene stays out forever. Really small hurtbox for a tall character. I don't hate the character, but he was clearly designed to win. Maybe they'll adjust him when they have sold enough DLC. I would love to see the character only earn meter from rebel's guard or offense rather than defense.
MkLeo has 6g or something, that download times are just nasty
7:10 he use jab to confuse and read the rolling, fantastic
Luigi mains : "Hey that's my trick !"
Got schmixed
Leo was all over this guy Jesus Christ. My boi couldn't catch a break
LMAOO
wasn’t that funny relax
comment wasn't that serious 😐 relax
6:27 Leo goes for this A LOT, actually. I think he tried to set up for it a couple of times earlier in the set.
I just realized that kola is salt one
3:26 I felt that 1 😂😂
whats the point of a parry if you still get hit lmao
@@label6814 its a 2 hit move
Salt One played well, props to him
i wish salt one just slowed down and reacted for the ledge trapping opportunities. i think mk leo got back on stage way too much for free. i do appreciate the strong roy though
SaltOne played pretty well. I think you have to take advantage of your opportunities when Joker is in disadvantage, and play patient any time that Arsene is out. I think with some film study and practice SaltOne could’ve taken a match or two off Leo.
Quarantine Series brought me back here after Kola “SaltOne” eliminated Leo.
@@fidzschool2941 Kola's streams have been on the come-up lately, I see.
Online matches are invalid xd
Kola is almost there. It might happen today (2021 SWT winners semis)
7:31 light really need to stop with his fortnite dance 😂😐
finally heard something other than "arsene is now online" literally so annoying at this point
agreed, or "big brother arsene" or "arsene on deck" all the commentators use the same annoying phrases lol
Dang bro, is it that bad?😂
saltone’s roy is clean af
A skilled Roy can defeat any Joker.
Except for Mkleo.
7:32 light just vibing super hard
Damn I feel like Kola could've won that first set if he had the match up knowledge and parried the 2nd hit of the down smash with Arsen, it would've let to a jab back air kill confirm. But damn Leo had him literally read like a book. Read all of his rolls, pristine edge guarding, proper use of his counter to hike up his Arsen meter and those crazy strings. Great match up, I'd like to see how well Kola would do now that he has 2 more characters in his pocket.
i'd say he did pretty good lol
This is kola ?
Jesus this set looks like it's at 1.5x speed
true. both players played well
Good players + that's just how the characters are
Not really relevant but I just remembered that Roy and Joker are basically the same age
You know what I respect the most about MKLeo, the fact that not many people are that good with Joker, but Leo has severely trained and adapted to mastering him. This isn't like with Diddy Kong where everybody was flocking over as soon as ZeRo got good with him.
4:40 can someone tell me why the back air hit twice?
Kyng Mayberry Arsene jus so damn powerful haha
Because technically, there is two hit boxes, regular joker and Arsene. U can also see this with down air when joker has arsene
The “secret character” is Chrom
@geronimo pilar I wish it was roy honesty
Roy is so underused
@4:40 wait... his back air hits TWICE???
All joker's aerials with arsene have additional arsene hits. It's nothing new
I think salt played well also, but if you gonna use a fire emblem character against someone who is so AGGRO, you need to utilize them counters man.... It's high risk high reward
True, Leo isn't afraid to abuse Joker's counter.
If you mess it up, joker is a character who has sooo many combos that start with upthrow or downthrow plus leo's reflexes are nasty. You mess up the counter - and leo will catch on if you abuse it - and you just lost 50-60 %
jokers recovery doesnt have active hit boxes with arsen and and without the tether could hit the counter but not joker and a counter missed in neutral would be severely punished due to lots of endlag
Every video with a fire emblem character has some one in the chat saying use counter more.
@TEDnator @N8 @ErickELITE
Look, all Im saying is,
- Roy is strong ASF
- You are playing as Roy
- You are playing against an aggresive player
- You have a tool that can punish aggresion
- Punish their aggression at LEAST ONCE !!??
Ofc using a counter at the wrong moment Will get you punished - that's obvious.. But using at the right time just comes with being a good player. If he used his counter more, or at least situationally, that could add to more mind games also. Because with more mind games he could make MKLeo think twice when approaching sometimes..
Isn’t this kola?
Dang Salt, what happened?
Leo happened
Lol it's Kola😂 didn't realize he went by a different tag before
3:25 top tier privilege
Everyone used to say joker was mid tier to high tier when he came out, but when leo uses him hes instantly top tier?
@@amala1333 He's top tier because he's a complete character like Wolf and Lucina. Many pros said he was high tier because they didn't want to assume he was top.
@@enthymeme4856 oh yeah I agree i just thought its funny how people just instantly switched to joker being top tier once leo picked him up
Dang Kola sure has grown
This guy looks a lot like Kola ngl
Leo has a secret secondary character that he will use only if he has to? That sounds epic tbh lol
MKLEO inspired me to play Joker, I’ve picked him up and is doing my 1st tourney tomorrow and thanks to the motivation to do good I’ve bumped by gsp from 2 mil to 5 mil the highest I’ve ever gotten Leo is great and I can’t wait to see even more from him
How did it go?
@@pando2333 2-0 d him winners round 1
@@noggie3041 Oof
@@davidc. oof
@@noggie3041 i lost to a pokemon trainer in winners
Is that Kola?
Yup.
WTF are jokers guns? Are they subtly one the best moves in the game?
What makes you think that
Yeah they're pretty good. They let you land for free and gimp bad recovery chars
Well, it's decent. What Sean said and they're also good for quick attack interruptions. Its pretty good, but there are definitely more solid specials in Ultimate, like pacmans & snakes N-spec.
Roy is especially fragile to the guns offstage.
MacLeo.
Baby kola
The best offline player vs the best online player
Well not anymore.
Leo ironically rockin the Roy hair
Is salt one kola?
Yup
Hes faced the top 2 players offline, lost to them, then beaten them online
My man Salt one upgraded to Kola
Remember kids Perry’s don’t work on down air for the fact the it’s a 2 hit move 🥴😂😂💪🏽💪🏽
vl PsYcHo lv I’d be pissed
Parries*
It can work. It's not as fast as fox's dair.
Salt One played incredibly tho
in retrospect, a blessed set
I know zero is probably crusty at this point. But the set would be so hype.
this guy could’ve totally got in the top 10 if he didn’t run into mkleo
i am from the future and he is
@@DaPoptartLord i am the even more future, and he got 3rd at a recent invitational
jun fukuyama vs jun fukuyama
6:25 through 6:46
Me when he says that back air is so strong: That almost didn't kill him at 134.7%!!!
Nah that for sure killed him. Even with good DI I bet
I like how his name is poggers
Jinx 2:49
7:29 Comment when you find the Tweek. The only player to ever beat MKLEO
Marss and Kameme have also beat him ... And Suton too
Yea what are u talm bout 😂
Antonio Lopez and Samsora 3-0d him
ESAM beat him too
Far right, and the statement u made is false
Battle of my mains
Lol same
There's probably a clause in Leo's contract that says he can never allow a match to get exciting. If he doesn't shut down the other player with no contest he can actually lose most of his pay.
Why though?
Literally every Roy just tries to speed run or something. Chill the fuck down. Leo is amazing. Nice 3-0.
Leo is God. Salt One, youre Roy is CRISP
Mkleo its a beast!
They play like monsters
Ledge trump bair.... need to implement that one myself!
I couldn’t focus on the match cause of the commentators gamer accent. Idk if anybody else noticed how hard he was trying to sound the way he did 😂😂
wtf
This guy has a clean Roy, but he should've used his counter. There were a few times his counter could've got him up a stock. Never forget to use it when you need to.
I don’t like Joker man, I’m not saying Mkleo is getting carried cuz he was a beast way before Joker was released, but when everyone fears Arsene more than anything in this game and an astounding amount of people are either dropping their mains for or co-maiming Joker, I think it’s safe to say there’s a problem with the character
MkLeo is almost literally the only top player with joker. No one is dropping their mains for joker.
I main joker becuse I like Persona 5, I'm still trash.
Tetrakarn is busted. He starts with meter his second and third stock. Arsene stays out forever. Really small hurtbox for a tall character. I don't hate the character, but he was clearly designed to win. Maybe they'll adjust him when they have sold enough DLC. I would love to see the character only earn meter from rebel's guard or offense rather than defense.
Sometimes I forget how broken joker is
First
And only
I have blueshell
Arttu Norrman 😂😂
Baby kola