All hobbies are rabbitholes as long as it dosent make you stay fit then it is win win. I will try sim racing might be my rest time fatburner better than sitting in sofa😂 burn 0.5 cal a minute. Still train/match >10 times a week. But still get too much sofa time and too much food.
G923! I bought mine around 12 mths ago. It was a roller-coaster of emotion. I bought mine for drifting on GT7. At first, I was excited..... but it was hard. I persevered. But 6 mnths in, I wasn't making progress. It was only after update 1.51, and the new physics changes, that I said to myself "make this work, or get rid of it". Then...... magic. Everything made sense. I started to understand how the game communicated essential info - info that is ever-present in real cars; the "seat of the pants" feel, inertia, a sense of speed - feelings that con not be communicated through eyes and hands alone. Now, I'm having the best experience ever. I have 2500+ controller hours on this game, and despite being able to EASILY go back to controller, I dont have any desire to do so. I don't want the controller to "corrupt" my feel and intuition (for lack of a better word) on wheel. Could/would I be happier with a more expensive DD wheel? Yes. Am I super happy I started with a 923? Absolutely. Thanks for the vid, and happy steering!
Hey man, if you have discord or something any chance you could send me a picture of your setup? If not that's totally fine but I was wondering... Did have just a basic desk and chair, along with a monitor? This would help me in purchasing my first sim wheel. Thanks!
I've been using a G29 since 2017. I have no interest in competitive racing, but i do love the occasional single player race or just playing around on Beamng. I never thought this thing would still be produced (and popular) in 2024
@@WilliamShakerTechHi. If I am not interested in the race simulators like Yours GT or similar or competing in any online races but just want to play arcade games occasionally like NFS shift or Payback ect, what gear should I go for with the steering wheel and base?
lol ya it’s a skill like anything else.. To get really good, you gotta spend at least 1-2 hours per day at a bare minimum.. and if you’re playing online against others.. prepare to triple that. But there will also come a point of practicing consistently on various circuits that you just get the hang of it and don’t need to practice as much.. every time I get to that point, I get humbled yet again in A group races.. back to the drawing board haha! 🤣
This is by far one of the best channels I have come across about this hobby. I have been debating on a wheel sim for about a year now and tomorrow I will be picking up a G923 to start off. I have more time than I did a year ago which was always putting me off from jumping into it. I am beyond excited for this and can not wait to dive in! You earned a sub from me and I can not wait to see your journey in GT as I am getting the game tomorrow as well coming from Forza Motorsport.
Thank you for your amazing posts! I just unboxed the PS5 I got through a lottery when they were in high demand. By the time I got it, my desire to play games had somewhat diminished. Recently, I decided to unbox it and set it all up, which lead to your post. You explain things so well! I appreciate your style of explanation so very much. I will be getting the G923 to use with the Evolution chair to start. Thanks again! Truly.
I watched this video. went online and did a ton of research. Decided on the 923 and playseat challenge logitech edition. Ended up getting the 923 for 200$ so that was a no brainer.. now just waiting on everything to arrive... if this ends up getting me deep into this hobby though hoo boy.. look out.. I think this is an acceptable "will I like this" cost.
I got into sim racing during my separation from my wife. Now, I have sold my Moza R9V2, all my Moza wheels, and gotten into flight sim. Very deep rabbit hole, which hits your pockets on the way down. Flight Sim is draining me more, but way less stress for me. Great video!
This video realy helpt me bc im going to buy my first steering wheel and i didnt know which one i should do g29 or g923 but now i know that im gonna buy the g923. Good vid 👍🏼
I started off with a Logitech G29 bundle myself also clamped to a desk like the one you showed. Later on upgraded to a nice Fanatec set up. Stopped racing about 2 years ago in favour of RPG games and now regret discarding my Fanatec gear before moving to a new apartment.
I used G25 many years, I Used G27 then with many games and now have experience with the real track racing, I'm looking for G923 or TH 300. used of course and only one reason - ps5 doesn't support my G27 even with GIMX. Thank you for review, give us more!
@@st.k.4528 G923 has Trueforce but the T300 will feel like G923 after 1-2 laps as soon as it gets hot. Turning on the fan on constant on doesn't help it either (I tried).. The only upper hand the T300 has is that its smooth.. almost DD smooth but quite frankly.. I'd go with G923 because although the T300 has 4-5nm of torque, it's not consistent. Just my 0.2 cents
@WilliamShakerTech thank you for your opinion, this is what we are looking for watching real experience fron the person who uses it and not get paid from manufacturers
Watched this video. I love how its from someones perspective of going from a cheaper wheel to a more expensive, instead of a person just dumping on the cheaper wheels only because theyve used the more expensive ones. Picking a g923 up later though
i bought the jxqqray stand on amazon, 134$ prob cheaper if your in the US, you can get decent ones at 100-200 range, then theres 500-1000 high end and cages lol
I would have traded a MotoGP subscription for Gran Turismo 7 too. It hasn’t felt the same since Valentino Rossi retired. Although his last few years weren’t great either. I got GT7 this Christmas 2024, and will be using it on a hand built SIM rig with the G923 wheel and PSVR2.
I agree.. but now he’s rocking with car racing.. once a racer always a racer. Love Rossi ❤️ though I gotta saying with Martin winning.. I’m really excited that 2024 ended in a good way.. not a big bagnaia fan. 2025 lookout for Marquez in red.. gonna be fun to see what happens!
@, that being said we’re very fortunate here in New Zealand to get all the MotoGP practice and races for free in our national television station ThreeNow. I have seen Rossi racing 4 wheels and love it. Not a fan of Marquez since 2015, but being from South Africa 🇿🇦 I do support Binder. Would love to see him on a Ducati though.
Just getting into sim driving so thanks for the upload review. I notice that at time 12.28 you are having to apply what appears to be considerable force to depress the pedals, something I have seen other reviewers mention. What's your experience/opinion?
Thanks for the prompt reply. Unit is flat on the floor, the pedals already angled up as you would expect in a car. Still looks to me as though the force require is excessive (timestamp should have read 5.35). I know you are wearing socks but even so your foot was slipping off with the required force and the rig was pushing back.
I'm a little confused. I have had a G29 for a couple of years and my main dislike is the hard brake pedal as it has the rubber stop in it, yet they removed it in the G923 to give a softer geake feel. That is the opposite to what you said but either way as i don't have a rig and can't afford a G Pro setup is the G923 realky worth the upgrade?. Could i also ask what tv are you using? Great video and look forward to seeing more. Cheers
If you can sell g29 for good price i think it's worth it. At least you will get more expensive wheel which will hold value if you want to upgrade later. I'm going for g923, it's my first wheel. T300 RS GT is fine by price, but shifter is too expensive, like half of the T300 RS GT price in my country. Idk if you can afford T300, but that will maybe be the best upgrade for you.
@@Guest-iv4qo Shifter is too expensive for me here. I found g923 with shifter for like 270$ new. And for t300 shifter alone is like 150$. I'll see which amount of ffb i will use. It's my first wheel. If i love racing so much i will save money for logitech g pro.
@kraviznina I went for g920 because it's advertised in soo many places only learned later when using more force feedback that it's very loud as all gear driven, not many mention it in reviews, people even buy special mold to make it slightly less noisy, others just say to use less ffb or not at all, but when I buy something I do want to use all features. ua-cam.com/users/shorts_EJVodtSC6k
Raced a Logitech G920 for a year. 4 months ago I bought a Logitech Pro System. This way I can mix and match if I have a part do down on my Pro rig. Got the addon half wheel and rim two weeks ago. May not be faster with the pro but 15 minutes back on my G920 I am just as fast. Yes 2 full sims now. My full rig, triple screens and a kick ass computer. My half rig on an ultra wide monitor I put in my box trailer and play it out on my campsite at the trailer park. Both rigs set up the very same way except for video settings in computers. Six months of winter when old system is home the Grandkids play on it and not my full rig. CHEERS!
I’ve had the privilege to own both, and spend a great time on both for the last 4 years. For a 100$ cheaper, I would take the G29. It’s about 90% of the same. It’s a great starter wheel. However, if you can afford too, the Thrustmaster T300/TX or a Moza R3 for a little more is a better option. Sure it’ll cost more but it really is worth it. I had buddies get the G29/G920 and not enjoy it at all. It felt too different from real life, and the wheel wasn’t what they expected. Had them switch to a Moza R3 and they’ve been playing a sold year now.
I currently have a Thrustmaster T-150 wheel that is showing its age and I'm looking to upgrade; the problem that I'm seeing on most of the wheels in my price range, there are no buttons high up in the center on the left and the right (that I use on the T150) that are perfect for your thumbs that I use for look left and look right (on the T150) are there buttons on the G 923 that you had mapped to look left and look right? Thanks!
I got the g29 yesterday, exchanging it tomorrow , some of the leather on the back isn’t adhered properly. Do you think I should pay the little extra and get the 923 ? It’s on sale for only $70 more
You got me wanting to return my G29, lol. I bought it yesterday from Best Buy for $200 but I haven't opened it yet. I also bought the PS VR2 and GT7 to play in VR. Im just waiting on my wheel mount to show up. Hmmm, 🤔 now im wondering if I should return the G29 and get the more expensive G pro wheel.
@WilliamShakerTech True.... But once u mentioned that the wheel has haptic feedback, that really caught my attention. Because I thought the G29 had it. I know my VR 2 has haptic, and that would've gone great. But I'm still excited over the G29. So I will most likely keep it.
@@steadycuzzin5813 one of the top iracing drivers used a G29 for 6 years before upgrading to a G pro.. better wheel doesn’t equal better driver. When you reach top driver status (A level in GT7) or 4000+ in iracing in G29 then you can upgrade cuz it’s well deserved. I’m currently A in GT7 slowly headed towards A+.. learn race crafts clean racing and find your fave track and use it as a test track for all your fave cars like Top Gear has its test track around the airport… mine is Lago Maggiore… my PB is 1:51 with soft tires in Gr3 car. Lmk if you beat it lol PS: $199 is a steal for that wheel.. after holidays it will go back to $279 like always..
@WilliamShakerTech I'm definitely going to hold onto this wheel. I actually got a killer deal on everything. Black Friday, I got my PlayStation VR2 for $349. Then I got GT7 for $29 dollars, and now the Logitech G29 for $200. I can't wait to play, I will update you on my times. But this beginner is gonna do horrible at first, lol.
Ya that’s solid! As a beginner, focus on lines, brake markers etc.. I recommend turning off all assists day one (except ABS). Keep track lines for the first 10 hours but then turn them off.. you can keep brake markers on.. I still run with it. PS: after 5 hours, manual transmission only. This is the quickest way to get faster / better.
As a newbie and hours of recherche I skip Logitech and start with Fanatec. The fact of changing and using several different kind of wheels and the direct drive mechanic, Logitech is now a toy to me. 😂
Should we get the pro strait up. they said it works with every console. Mostly going for pc. Still thinking getting the old g27. and just go pc legit. for racing games. Forza is on pc. SO IDK.
Ya but you’ll never know if this will be a hobby that will last 7 days or 7 months (or 7 years) this is why it’s best to start the inexpensive route as I discussed in my video. Search FB marketplace, most people sell expensive hardware weeks after purchase and lose a ton of money because it’s very time consuming and requires a lot of practice to be competitive or good. My 0.2 cents. PS: at least with G923 you get back at least 70% what you paid. Good luck getting back 50% with expensive rigs.
Well I guess I took it as you’re 100% new to the hobby like most people searching for this wheel but if you have dedication, time and money, go for the big boy hardware.. why not.
@@WilliamShakerTech is it larger in size then the average size one's. That is what worry me. If it's the same size. then all good. It says it plays on xbox ps5 and PC. Mostly PC use. But people bring there consoles all the time to the home.
@@WilliamShakerTech yeah, not expecting a video, was just surprised that someone with such an immersive setup wasn’t using a PSVR2, but you are so the point is moot.
The flex with those Playseats are a No-Go. Why on earth are people still keep buying this crappy shit? Try Oplite GTR S8 ELITE. I know… u have to spend a little bit more but it is worth it!
Well, I’m not impressed by it. I know it’s one of the cheapest wheel and wheel bases you can get, but I think anything from a Thrustmaster TX to any of the Moza bases is a better budget option. Sure you pay a little bit more, but they feel so much better.
@@WilliamShakerTech I have not used the 300RS, only the TX and the TGT 2, and never had a overheating problem with them. And even if they are at the same power, the smoothness of the belt beats the cogs of the logitech wheels every time. But if I were to start today I would go for a Moza R5 or R9. Sure, it’s probably double the money of the G29/G923, but it’s more than 2x better.
@@SKYAstrxl The r5 bundle with the rim and the pedals are 439$ from their own homepage. On black Friday, you could probably find it even cheaper somewhere.
Learning to drive the car and getting to understand how it handles is FUCKING FRUSTRATING !! LOL THEN you need to learn how to set the car up to get it handle better,,, Thats MORE of a learning curve...
It’s expensive because you’ll always be upgrading.. it’s nonstop. Of course there are more expensive hobbies. Here is my motorcycle channel: youtube.com/@petrohead?si=ltTdu1xDcDDi-CRD
@@WilliamShakerTech yes. Every hobby is exspensive as long as you are upgrading. Sadly the truth is ever hobby is cheap at good "entry" level. I saw at expo that you can buy pedals for 3k per pedal for sim 🤯
@@WilliamShakerTech when I started cycling I started with alu roadbike it was fine..... but I still uppgraded 10 times. That's why I started my mc hobby with a ktm super Duke 1290. Thought i would be my only forever bike. But I still upgraded 🤣. With 6 ducatis etc. Nowadays I try to stay att good value used level. So I can doo more hobbies 😁
@WilliamShakerTech Moza R5, CSL DD 5nm. Both available as bundles with none loadcell brakes for not much more money. Both are far superior to the Logitech in this video.
@UnitedFan3001 You said not much more expensive but the G29 can be had for less than half of these.. Current pricing is $199 on amazon. Moza R5 is $440 --- CSL DD is $450. That’s more than double.
It's waste of a hell of a lot of money just for outside stimuli ! These are useless contraptions that keep people lazy and gain weight when playing a real sport or Martial Arts would be way healthier.
The Logitech G923 is total trash. It is garbage. The pedals are terrible and it won’t take you two or three weeks to find out. In fact, logitech is doing away with the whole non-series line. They are trash. I’m telling you do not buy one. They are garbage.
While some may view the G29 as outdated, consider this: a pro gamer used it for six years and was ranked in the top 1% of racers in iRacing before eventually upgrading to the G Pro. I ride motorcycles, and I often hear people on my channel bash 400cc bikes as “boring.” Yet, a skilled rider on a 400cc can easily outperform most riders on liter bikes at the track. Take Suellio Almeida, for example-the person I’m referring to. These days, he coaches real race car drivers, but for six years, he honed his craft on a G29. It’s not about the gear you have; it’s about what you can achieve with it. Here’s his channel: youtube.com/@suellioalmeida?si=0NPJYIlOc2lPM4G8 It’s well-documented that the difference between a direct-drive and belt-drive wheel has no significant impact on lap times. Like most things, there are plenty of shiny objects to choose from-some people make decisions with their wallets, others with their skills and determination.
So im guessing you guys have never been in a real race car? Everything shakes so hard your eyes get blurry, the movement of the car is not smooth and steady like grand turismo. Does GT even have damage yet? Do the cars dip on braking or lean in corners?
If you think the Logitech is the creme de le creme. Wait till you upgrade to a 12, 16 or 21 newton meter. AND get way better brakes....You'll get orgasms...
I play @ 8nm.. My hands are already in pain after playing for 3-4 hour stints.. I’ll stick to G Pro because more is not better for me. As the G Pro brakes, they are amazing already and I run them at 30lb of force... plenty
Check out my GT7 Daily Race video Playlist: ua-cam.com/play/PLqIvpCqwUjq5Q6JcaqHCGNjWFvphIqhPW.html
Sim racing is a rabbit hole.. always upgrading lol great video
So true
All hobbies are rabbitholes as long as it dosent make you stay fit then it is win win. I will try sim racing might be my rest time fatburner better than sitting in sofa😂 burn 0.5 cal a minute. Still train/match >10 times a week. But still get too much sofa time and too much food.
G923! I bought mine around 12 mths ago. It was a roller-coaster of emotion. I bought mine for drifting on GT7. At first, I was excited..... but it was hard. I persevered. But 6 mnths in, I wasn't making progress. It was only after update 1.51, and the new physics changes, that I said to myself "make this work, or get rid of it". Then...... magic. Everything made sense. I started to understand how the game communicated essential info - info that is ever-present in real cars; the "seat of the pants" feel, inertia, a sense of speed - feelings that con not be communicated through eyes and hands alone. Now, I'm having the best experience ever. I have 2500+ controller hours on this game, and despite being able to EASILY go back to controller, I dont have any desire to do so. I don't want the controller to "corrupt" my feel and intuition (for lack of a better word) on wheel. Could/would I be happier with a more expensive DD wheel? Yes. Am I super happy I started with a 923? Absolutely. Thanks for the vid, and happy steering!
Hey man, if you have discord or something any chance you could send me a picture of your setup? If not that's totally fine but I was wondering... Did have just a basic desk and chair, along with a monitor? This would help me in purchasing my first sim wheel. Thanks!
I've been using a G29 since 2017. I have no interest in competitive racing, but i do love the occasional single player race or just playing around on Beamng. I never thought this thing would still be produced (and popular) in 2024
It's a great entry-level wheel and it's still a solid choice for casual racing.
@@WilliamShakerTechHi. If I am not interested in the race simulators like Yours GT or similar or competing in any online races but just want to play arcade games occasionally like NFS shift or Payback ect, what gear should I go for with the steering wheel and base?
@@theartofflying3108 just use a controller or use the one from the video. I dunno what to tell you lol
Yeah I have the G923 Logitech steering wheel and I love it plus I have the PSVR2 it’s amazing ❤
great video, i actually picked up a g923 today and i can't wait to get started. NEW SUB
Awesome, let me know what you think! 👍
@ ok so here’s what I think, it’s really cool and I’m enjoying. Here’s what I’ve learned, I can’t drive lol
lol ya it’s a skill like anything else.. To get really good, you gotta spend at least 1-2 hours per day at a bare minimum.. and if you’re playing online against others.. prepare to triple that. But there will also come a point of practicing consistently on various circuits that you just get the hang of it and don’t need to practice as much.. every time I get to that point, I get humbled yet again in A group races.. back to the drawing board haha! 🤣
This is by far one of the best channels I have come across about this hobby. I have been debating on a wheel sim for about a year now and tomorrow I will be picking up a G923 to start off. I have more time than I did a year ago which was always putting me off from jumping into it. I am beyond excited for this and can not wait to dive in! You earned a sub from me and I can not wait to see your journey in GT as I am getting the game tomorrow as well coming from Forza Motorsport.
Awesome man, I'm glad you found my channel useful - It's definitely a very satisfying feeling to finally make the jump into sim racing!
don't, if you don't want to get DD go for belt driven
Thank you for your amazing posts! I just unboxed the PS5 I got through a lottery when they were in high demand. By the time I got it, my desire to play games had somewhat diminished. Recently, I decided to unbox it and set it all up, which lead to your post. You explain things so well! I appreciate your style of explanation so very much. I will be getting the G923 to use with the Evolution chair to start. Thanks again! Truly.
Awesome, you're going to love the G923 and the chair combo!
I watched this video. went online and did a ton of research. Decided on the 923 and playseat challenge logitech edition. Ended up getting the 923 for 200$ so that was a no brainer.. now just waiting on everything to arrive... if this ends up getting me deep into this hobby though hoo boy.. look out.. I think this is an acceptable "will I like this" cost.
I got into sim racing during my separation from my wife. Now, I have sold my Moza R9V2, all my Moza wheels, and gotten into flight sim. Very deep rabbit hole, which hits your pockets on the way down. Flight Sim is draining me more, but way less stress for me. Great video!
Draining… how so?
@@WilliamShakerTech Money wise. Pro end flight sim stuff is so much. From displays, button boxes, metal throttles and joysticks..
That’s why I made this video. Step #1 become a really good and make sure you’re dedicated.. step #2 buy pro stuff only if it’s holding you back.
This video realy helpt me bc im going to buy my first steering wheel and i didnt know which one i should do g29 or g923 but now i know that im gonna buy the g923. Good vid 👍🏼
Glad I could help
I started off with a Logitech G29 bundle myself also clamped to a desk like the one you showed. Later on upgraded to a nice Fanatec set up. Stopped racing about 2 years ago in favour of RPG games and now regret discarding my Fanatec gear before moving to a new apartment.
Ty for this.
I used G25 many years, I Used G27 then with many games and now have experience with the real track racing, I'm looking for G923 or TH 300. used of course and only one reason - ps5 doesn't support my G27 even with GIMX. Thank you for review, give us more!
The TM T300 has force feedback fade.. there are better alternatives out there for similar money. Besides, it’s super outdated.
@WilliamShakerTech so do you think 923 is better t300 rs gt? Used prices are close
@@st.k.4528 G923 has Trueforce but the T300 will feel like G923 after 1-2 laps as soon as it gets hot. Turning on the fan on constant on doesn't help it either (I tried).. The only upper hand the T300 has is that its smooth.. almost DD smooth but quite frankly.. I'd go with G923 because although the T300 has 4-5nm of torque, it's not consistent. Just my 0.2 cents
@WilliamShakerTech thank you for your opinion, this is what we are looking for watching real experience fron the person who uses it and not get paid from manufacturers
No problem 😉
I’ve just got myself a Logitech g293 trueforce too… 🏁🏎️
Trueforce is a game changer.. it’s why I stayed with G Pro.
I've been using my logitech red momo racing wheel since 2001. Thinking about trying something newer.
I have a question about the sim racing. Once you buy the g29 sim racing ,you can play any racing game on it or it has a specific game for it??
Bought the G923 2 months ago for my daughter (sale on Coolblue si bought it cheaper then the G29) and she/we are loving every minute of it.
How much did it cost you
Watched this video. I love how its from someones perspective of going from a cheaper wheel to a more expensive, instead of a person just dumping on the cheaper wheels only because theyve used the more expensive ones. Picking a g923 up later though
Appreciate the kind words!
You should add a VR to it
Especially in GT7
I got the G923 and it is a huge learning curve. From a controller to and wheel is night and day. I need to get a good stand next.
i bought the jxqqray stand on amazon, 134$ prob cheaper if your in the US, you can get decent ones at 100-200 range, then theres 500-1000 high end and cages lol
@ Thanks for the info and hopefully one day we can get in a few races.
Yo @2:20 min you summed it down I should start with a g29 and I’ll go from there, take my like and a sub 😂
Thank you!
I would have traded a MotoGP subscription for Gran Turismo 7 too. It hasn’t felt the same since Valentino Rossi retired. Although his last few years weren’t great either. I got GT7 this Christmas 2024, and will be using it on a hand built SIM rig with the G923 wheel and PSVR2.
I agree.. but now he’s rocking with car racing.. once a racer always a racer. Love Rossi ❤️ though I gotta saying with Martin winning.. I’m really excited that 2024 ended in a good way.. not a big bagnaia fan. 2025 lookout for Marquez in red.. gonna be fun to see what happens!
@, that being said we’re very fortunate here in New Zealand to get all the MotoGP practice and races for free in our national television station ThreeNow.
I have seen Rossi racing 4 wheels and love it. Not a fan of Marquez since 2015, but being from South Africa 🇿🇦 I do support Binder. Would love to see him on a Ducati though.
Binder on a Ducati.. wow lol imagine that.
Just getting into sim driving so thanks for the upload review. I notice that at time 12.28 you are having to apply what appears to be considerable force to depress the pedals, something I have seen other reviewers mention. What's your experience/opinion?
I think it's because it's a flat surface but on an angle, it should be easier. You don't want soft pedals.
Thanks for the prompt reply. Unit is flat on the floor, the pedals already angled up as you would expect in a car. Still looks to me as though the force require is excessive (timestamp should have read 5.35). I know you are wearing socks but even so your foot was slipping off with the required force and the rig was pushing back.
I'm a little confused. I have had a G29 for a couple of years and my main dislike is the hard brake pedal as it has the rubber stop in it, yet they removed it in the G923 to give a softer geake feel. That is the opposite to what you said but either way as i don't have a rig and can't afford a G Pro setup is the G923 realky worth the upgrade?. Could i also ask what tv are you using? Great video and look forward to seeing more. Cheers
If you can sell g29 for good price i think it's worth it. At least you will get more expensive wheel which will hold value if you want to upgrade later. I'm going for g923, it's my first wheel. T300 RS GT is fine by price, but shifter is too expensive, like half of the T300 RS GT price in my country. Idk if you can afford T300, but that will maybe be the best upgrade for you.
@@kraviznina go for belt driven wheel, gear driven are loud as hell if you want to use FFB
@@Guest-iv4qo Shifter is too expensive for me here. I found g923 with shifter for like 270$ new. And for t300 shifter alone is like 150$. I'll see which amount of ffb i will use. It's my first wheel. If i love racing so much i will save money for logitech g pro.
@kraviznina I went for g920 because it's advertised in soo many places only learned later when using more force feedback that it's very loud as all gear driven, not many mention it in reviews, people even buy special mold to make it slightly less noisy, others just say to use less ffb or not at all, but when I buy something I do want to use all features. ua-cam.com/users/shorts_EJVodtSC6k
@@Guest-iv4qo i know but t300 also got his problems with ffb and overheating.
Awesome review!!
Have a great day
Thanks! You too!
G923 also spins slightly faster making it a good starter wheel for drifting as your just racing thought i would get that in
thanks Great Review
Raced a Logitech G920 for a year. 4 months ago I bought a Logitech Pro System. This way I can mix and match if I have a part do down on my Pro rig. Got the addon half wheel and rim two weeks ago. May not be faster with the pro but 15 minutes back on my G920 I am just as fast. Yes 2 full sims now. My full rig, triple screens and a kick ass computer. My half rig on an ultra wide monitor I put in my box trailer and play it out on my campsite at the trailer park. Both rigs set up the very same way except for video settings in computers. Six months of winter when old system is home the Grandkids play on it and not my full rig. CHEERS!
just scored me the g923 used like new for a damn good score
I’ve had the privilege to own both, and spend a great time on both for the last 4 years.
For a 100$ cheaper, I would take the G29. It’s about 90% of the same. It’s a great starter wheel.
However, if you can afford too, the Thrustmaster T300/TX or a Moza R3 for a little more is a better option. Sure it’ll cost more but it really is worth it.
I had buddies get the G29/G920 and not enjoy it at all. It felt too different from real life, and the wheel wasn’t what they expected. Had them switch to a Moza R3 and they’ve been playing a sold year now.
I currently have a Thrustmaster T-150 wheel that is showing its age and I'm looking to upgrade; the problem that I'm seeing on most of the wheels in my price range, there are no buttons high up in the center on the left and the right (that I use on the T150) that are perfect for your thumbs that I use for look left and look right (on the T150)
are there buttons on the G 923 that you had mapped to look left and look right?
Thanks!
The buttons are already mapped but you can also customize them.
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Which ones are for look left and look right
Idk bro.. I’m not tech support haha.. JK.. you’ll find out when you use it.
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I take it you don't look left and right, lol.
I got the g29 yesterday, exchanging it tomorrow , some of the leather on the back isn’t adhered properly. Do you think I should pay the little extra and get the 923 ? It’s on sale for only $70 more
The leather will be the same. I advise wearing gloves either way. TBH for 70 more it’s worth the upgrade. Lmk what you decide 👍
You’re set up is awesome!! Does the G29 come with screws to mount to a sim rig?
Thank you! Yes, you can check it out in the scene where I bolt it to my table.
@ ok sorry missed that thank you 👍.. I know I’m gonna get addicted to this it looks so fun 😁 by the way liked the video
Which one is better between logitech g923 or thrustmaster t300 rs gt these 2 almost same price in india…
T300 is better
T300 has FFB fade after 5m.. then it feels like a G923 but only slightly stronger. If you want to swap wheels then buy a T300.
You got me wanting to return my G29, lol.
I bought it yesterday from Best Buy for $200 but I haven't opened it yet. I also bought the PS VR2 and GT7 to play in VR. Im just waiting on my wheel mount to show up.
Hmmm, 🤔 now im wondering if I should return the G29 and get the more expensive G pro wheel.
Keep it. This hobby is a rabbit hole and there will always be shinier objects.
@WilliamShakerTech True....
But once u mentioned that the wheel has haptic feedback, that really caught my attention. Because I thought the G29 had it.
I know my VR 2 has haptic, and that would've gone great. But I'm still excited over the G29.
So I will most likely keep it.
@@steadycuzzin5813 one of the top iracing drivers used a G29 for 6 years before upgrading to a G pro.. better wheel doesn’t equal better driver. When you reach top driver status (A level in GT7) or 4000+ in iracing in G29 then you can upgrade cuz it’s well deserved. I’m currently A in GT7 slowly headed towards A+.. learn race crafts clean racing and find your fave track and use it as a test track for all your fave cars like Top Gear has its test track around the airport… mine is Lago Maggiore… my PB is 1:51 with soft tires in Gr3 car. Lmk if you beat it lol
PS: $199 is a steal for that wheel.. after holidays it will go back to $279 like always..
@WilliamShakerTech I'm definitely going to hold onto this wheel. I actually got a killer deal on everything.
Black Friday, I got my PlayStation VR2 for $349. Then I got GT7 for $29 dollars, and now the Logitech G29 for $200.
I can't wait to play, I will update you on my times. But this beginner is gonna do horrible at first, lol.
Ya that’s solid! As a beginner, focus on lines, brake markers etc.. I recommend turning off all assists day one (except ABS). Keep track lines for the first 10 hours but then turn them off.. you can keep brake markers on.. I still run with it.
PS: after 5 hours, manual transmission only. This is the quickest way to get faster / better.
Do I need to buy the shifter/handbrake if I'm buying g923 wheel and pedal?
Is Logitech 920 good as starter? I got a good deal for that and would like to use it for Euro Truck Sim 2
For Euro Truck Simulator I would recommend the Thrustmaster T248, simply because it is better adapted to the game and is also recommended by the game
Not interested in sim racing but I want a decent wheel for casual gaming and teaching my daughter how a real car works.
“Not interested in sim racing” proceeds to say wants a wheel that basically mimics how a real car works. Brother that is exactly what sim racing is.
You really have to try out Assetto Corsa Competizione. I like the feedback way better than GT7 and am running the same setup. Won’t regret it.
Ya it's on my list for sure! Too bad Evo is a long way out.
As a newbie and hours of recherche I skip Logitech and start with Fanatec. The fact of changing and using several different kind of wheels and the direct drive mechanic, Logitech is now a toy to me. 😂
Get The PSVR2 to use with GT7....LIFE CHANGING!😱
Do a review of the PRO please!! 🍻
Ok fine I guess I have no choice lol 😝
@@WilliamShakerTech
Yeah son lol!! You wouldn't happen to have NR2003 would you? I'm curious if the PRO will work with it. Thanks! 👍🏻
I'm surprised at the distance between you and the screen. Happy racing.
Should we get the pro strait up.
they said it works with every console.
Mostly going for pc.
Still thinking getting the old g27. and just go pc legit. for racing games.
Forza is on pc. SO IDK.
Ya but you’ll never know if this will be a hobby that will last 7 days or 7 months (or 7 years) this is why it’s best to start the inexpensive route as I discussed in my video. Search FB marketplace, most people sell expensive hardware weeks after purchase and lose a ton of money because it’s very time consuming and requires a lot of practice to be competitive or good. My 0.2 cents.
PS: at least with G923 you get back at least 70% what you paid. Good luck getting back 50% with expensive rigs.
I have a madcats wheel from 2 decades ago for the og xbox and ps2
Well I guess I took it as you’re 100% new to the hobby like most people searching for this wheel but if you have dedication, time and money, go for the big boy hardware.. why not.
@@WilliamShakerTech is it larger in size then the average size one's. That is what worry me.
If it's the same size. then all good.
It says it plays on xbox ps5 and PC.
Mostly PC use. But people bring there consoles all the time to the home.
the price looks dumb to me.
If it's legit at least for pc. It can be something to keep for an enternaty.
PS6 is bound to happen within 5 years maybe.
What chassis is that
I’m surprised you aren’t using PSVR2 to complete your sim rig, any reason why not?
I’m using it.
@@WilliamShakerTech oh, ok- just didnt catch sight of it in your vid….
I got it after the video. Everyone has already done a PSVR2 video.. I may pass.. it won’t be anything new.
@@WilliamShakerTech yeah, not expecting a video, was just surprised that someone with such an immersive setup wasn’t using a PSVR2, but you are so the point is moot.
on console it’s really stiff the turn how do i fix this i downloaded ghub and it turned fine but when plugged into the ps5 it became stiff again
You can adjust FFB inside GT7.. just not sure about other games.
@ on carx you can change it as well. But it stays stiff or has no ffb at all. Sometimes i get it to work but most of the time its either of those.
Turn the torque to ten. Steering to ten. Feedback to one. Vibration to medium. Also make sure it’s plugged in the back usb port on ps5.
Very nice
Should i get the moza r3 or g923 for Xbox?
starting with g923 but moza is WAY better if you’re hardcore pro
Are they too loud to use in an apartment building?
Not at all!
Nope
You may want to put something under the pedals. Not long after I got my rig my neighbour down stairs asked me if I had taken up tap dancing. 🕺🕺🕺
The flex with those Playseats are a No-Go. Why on earth are people still keep buying this crappy shit? Try Oplite GTR S8 ELITE. I know… u have to spend a little bit more but it is worth it!
G923 or MOZA R3?
It depends.. Moza is twice as expensive.
Well, I’m not impressed by it. I know it’s one of the cheapest wheel and wheel bases you can get, but I think anything from a Thrustmaster TX to any of the Moza bases is a better budget option. Sure you pay a little bit more, but they feel so much better.
The TM T300RS has FFB fade after playing for 5 minutes, then it feels like a 2nm Logitech so imo the G923 is a better value. Review coming soon.
@@WilliamShakerTech I have not used the 300RS, only the TX and the TGT 2, and never had a overheating problem with them. And even if they are at the same power, the smoothness of the belt beats the cogs of the logitech wheels every time. But if I were to start today I would go for a Moza R5 or R9. Sure, it’s probably double the money of the G29/G923, but it’s more than 2x better.
Oh for sure, the smoothness of the TM is way better.
the moza r5 base alone is 430$ 💀
@@SKYAstrxl The r5 bundle with the rim and the pedals are 439$ from their own homepage. On black Friday, you could probably find it even cheaper somewhere.
Team G29 !
dude you can't race on an office chair. it moves.you clearly were not racing on a chair with wheels.guaranteed
Learning to drive the car and getting to understand how it handles is FUCKING FRUSTRATING !! LOL
THEN you need to learn how to set the car up to get it handle better,,, Thats MORE of a learning curve...
Skill issue tbh
4:10 no not exspensive hobby. Try car or motorcycle hobby. Or even cycling😂
It’s expensive because you’ll always be upgrading.. it’s nonstop. Of course there are more expensive hobbies. Here is my motorcycle channel: youtube.com/@petrohead?si=ltTdu1xDcDDi-CRD
@@WilliamShakerTech yes. Every hobby is exspensive as long as you are upgrading. Sadly the truth is ever hobby is cheap at good "entry" level. I saw at expo that you can buy pedals for 3k per pedal for sim 🤯
@@WilliamShakerTech when I started cycling I started with alu roadbike it was fine..... but I still uppgraded 10 times. That's why I started my mc hobby with a ktm super Duke 1290. Thought i would be my only forever bike. But I still upgraded 🤣. With 6 ducatis etc. Nowadays I try to stay att good value used level. So I can doo more hobbies 😁
@@lordbentley730lol.. you will never own just one bike.. in 3 years I think I had 7 bikes haha.. anyway see you on my moto channel.
Neither of them, there are much better options for not much more money than both of those.
Like?
@WilliamShakerTech Moza R5, CSL DD 5nm. Both available as bundles with none loadcell brakes for not much more money. Both are far superior to the Logitech in this video.
@UnitedFan3001 You said not much more expensive but the G29 can be had for less than half of these.. Current pricing is $199 on amazon. Moza R5 is $440 --- CSL DD is $450. That’s more than double.
It's waste of a hell of a lot of money just for outside stimuli ! These are useless contraptions that keep people lazy and gain weight when playing a real sport or Martial Arts would be way healthier.
The Logitech G923 is total trash. It is garbage. The pedals are terrible and it won’t take you two or three weeks to find out. In fact, logitech is doing away with the whole non-series line. They are trash. I’m telling you do not buy one. They are garbage.
While some may view the G29 as outdated, consider this: a pro gamer used it for six years and was ranked in the top 1% of racers in iRacing before eventually upgrading to the G Pro. I ride motorcycles, and I often hear people on my channel bash 400cc bikes as “boring.” Yet, a skilled rider on a 400cc can easily outperform most riders on liter bikes at the track.
Take Suellio Almeida, for example-the person I’m referring to. These days, he coaches real race car drivers, but for six years, he honed his craft on a G29. It’s not about the gear you have; it’s about what you can achieve with it. Here’s his channel: youtube.com/@suellioalmeida?si=0NPJYIlOc2lPM4G8
It’s well-documented that the difference between a direct-drive and belt-drive wheel has no significant impact on lap times. Like most things, there are plenty of shiny objects to choose from-some people make decisions with their wallets, others with their skills and determination.
Both are terible.
GT sucks compared to GRID LEGENDS, the whole driving software is levels above.
Lmaooooooo
lol
They let you habe access to the internet in the insane asylum!?
So im guessing you guys have never been in a real race car? Everything shakes so hard your eyes get blurry, the movement of the car is not smooth and steady like grand turismo. Does GT even have damage yet? Do the cars dip on braking or lean in corners?
@mentalmoto763 LMMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Gon head and be quiet champ... 🤫
If you think the Logitech is the creme de le creme.
Wait till you upgrade to a 12, 16 or 21 newton meter. AND get way better brakes....You'll get orgasms...
I play @ 8nm.. My hands are already in pain after playing for 3-4 hour stints.. I’ll stick to G Pro because more is not better for me. As the G Pro brakes, they are amazing already and I run them at 30lb of force... plenty
You sound like a 20 year old idk how to explain it
You’re trying to say I sound and look young.. well thanks! 😊