I’ve had mesh tape on my basement walls for over 20 years. The strength comes from plaster, primer and paint. I’ve never seen mesh come off. However, I have seen seams come apart with paper tape because the mudding was too thin or it started to dry before the tape application.
i got alot of tricks off u thanks for that lol. you explain very well and your very good at what you do i am also a peice worker too keep up the good work
Only old school taper say mesh is good in angles, Sure if youre plastering mesh is fine in angles. we don't plaster anymore, we tape. Paper is is the best choice for internals and flats 100%
Yes, absolutely agree. Also, part of the reason for uploading this is about getting the message out to DIY/Homeowners, if I got a penny for every time I've gotten a call from a homeowner, saying "hey we started our basement/reno/addition, just need a professional to finish it" and I show up to look, and the corners are all taped with mesh, and everything is a disaster, I'd have like 30 cents. Now, it's just personal business policy, won't accept anything if it's already started.
@@Interior_Works its unfortunate really. Ive been paper taping in Nova Scotia, Canada for 7 years. I now work for a contractor who want's everything bonded and fiber taped. you wouldnt believe the repairs we have at the end of every building...its unreal
That's the right way of going about things, do what we can guarantee. We all know our own. This video is just my own personal experience. Our houses are built on flood plains, extreme temperature changes, literally swamps are drained and a year later a housing development is going up there. It's considered normal for a new house to shift 1-2" unevenly in the first 5 years here. And in these extreme conditions, it was determined across the industry, even before my time, that mesh isn't allowed, and paper only. Even as an independent contractor, I'm not allowed to use it. I've had builders ask, do you use mesh or paper? When considering my quote/proposal.
@Interior_Works everyone has their own preferences and methods do what works do what's the fastest for you and perfect it the best you can but always be willing too take advice and be the best you can be no matter what anyone says
Mesh tape is great for small repairs, and it's also good for applications in certain construction situations, you'll have to watch straight through to get the full explanation.
@mikeoshea12 there a few UA-cam videos on taping that got over a million views, the "drywall handyman" UA-camrs, who use mesh on corners. It's unfortunate, they make their videos with such confidence and diy Homeowners lap it up as gospel. Now I'm by no means an authority on taping, I'm always learning, but those videos is what has set me towards making more proper diy advice videos.
WOW.. Thanks for the info, I had some mesh tape, was easy to apply but a pain to smooth it out. Nice work on the corners. I will toss that stuff and go buy paper tape. thanks
If it's applied with Durabond, like the plaster placed first, then the mesh wiped and embedded into it... It works awesome, very strong joint. However, 99% of DIY drywallers or even DIY instructional videos show to just stick the mesh on the drywall and then mud over it. - that doesn't work, as evidenced by the ease at which I can strip off the tape, and also by 20 years experience of fixing walls and ceilings - 90% of the time I dig in and find it's mesh tape applied dry, with just the factory adhesive as the glue.
Thanks. There's a union but it's not very popular, most tapers are just independent. Sub-contracting from large drywall companies the rates are about .40, + a little extra for height or complexities. Direct to builders, rates are all over the place, but taping only, .65 would be considered competitive in large volume work. $1 or more for smaller stuff like additions or basements. Repairs, I just estimate my hours, X that by a 100, add material, and give it as a flat-rate quote, no break down.
@@araujo773 that's surprising because Toronto has higher living costs. But I'm sure Toronto is a better place to live. I'd live in Toronto or Vancouver if I could afford.
@@Interior_Works the base price for Toronto, I asked past week, is 36 cents. With the extras, you can reach 42~45 in subdivision. Privete jobs are paying arround 50~55 cents flat rate. The best city I know for taping is Ottawa. 36 cents but you don’t need to sand. They have sanding crews.
@Interior_Works it's a rat race around here especially cause of the lack of skill and foreign workers driving the price down. I've seen kids 14 years old working on union sites im in the union they send me to sites not for work its cause I'm the only one that has a union card and they know the unions are picketing those sites on those days cause of foreign workers most sites I go I use Google translate on my phone too talk to them usually head guy is English speaking and the crew is usually afraid to talk cause of the ringleader and what could happen
Yes, but unfortunately it seems homeowner/DIY'ers keep doing it, perhaps at no fault of their own, because they learn from "drywall handyman" UA-camrs, who unfortunately always seem to get the most views on the subject.
If you're going to make a video on mesh, learn what you're talking about. You just don't know how to use it. It's funny how it was so strong it came off your seam wear the paper just tore and you acted like that was weak. 😂 You don't know how to use mesh in a corner. That was obvious from seeing you try to put the tape up. It's a totally different process. You made it ridiculously difficult. In the North and been using mesh for decades even on new construction. No issues if you know what you're doing.
I’ve had mesh tape on my basement walls for over 20 years. The strength comes from plaster, primer and paint. I’ve never seen mesh come off. However, I have seen seams come apart with paper tape because the mudding was too thin or it started to dry before the tape application.
i got alot of tricks off u thanks for that lol. you explain very well and your very good at what you do i am also a peice worker too keep up the good work
Thank you
Thank you for your practical knowledge. @6:30 looks like the new development neighborhood in Winnipeg south.
I use paper always and never have any issues. Great video as always. Sorry you lost your tools. That really sucks.
Only old school taper say mesh is good in angles, Sure if youre plastering mesh is fine in angles. we don't plaster anymore, we tape. Paper is is the best choice for internals and flats 100%
Yes, absolutely agree. Also, part of the reason for uploading this is about getting the message out to DIY/Homeowners, if I got a penny for every time I've gotten a call from a homeowner, saying "hey we started our basement/reno/addition, just need a professional to finish it" and I show up to look, and the corners are all taped with mesh, and everything is a disaster, I'd have like 30 cents.
Now, it's just personal business policy, won't accept anything if it's already started.
@@Interior_Works its unfortunate really. Ive been paper taping in Nova Scotia, Canada for 7 years. I now work for a contractor who want's everything bonded and fiber taped. you wouldnt believe the repairs we have at the end of every building...its unreal
I can only tape what I can guarantee not that it's right or wrong it's just I do what works for me
That's the right way of going about things, do what we can guarantee. We all know our own. This video is just my own personal experience. Our houses are built on flood plains, extreme temperature changes, literally swamps are drained and a year later a housing development is going up there. It's considered normal for a new house to shift 1-2" unevenly in the first 5 years here. And in these extreme conditions, it was determined across the industry, even before my time, that mesh isn't allowed, and paper only. Even as an independent contractor, I'm not allowed to use it. I've had builders ask, do you use mesh or paper? When considering my quote/proposal.
@Interior_Works everyone has their own preferences and methods do what works do what's the fastest for you and perfect it the best you can but always be willing too take advice and be the best you can be no matter what anyone says
Mesh tape is great for small repairs, and it's also good for applications in certain construction situations, you'll have to watch straight through to get the full explanation.
@mikeoshea12 there a few UA-cam videos on taping that got over a million views, the "drywall handyman" UA-camrs, who use mesh on corners. It's unfortunate, they make their videos with such confidence and diy Homeowners lap it up as gospel. Now I'm by no means an authority on taping, I'm always learning, but those videos is what has set me towards making more proper diy advice videos.
WOW.. Thanks for the info, I had some mesh tape, was easy to apply but a pain to smooth it out. Nice work on the corners. I will toss that stuff and go buy paper tape. thanks
What's your stance on the fiber tape that doesn't have a sticky back and embeds in like paper?
Buddy you didn't pack the mesh correctly...
Did you try to apply meshrape same way as paper....if you jist glue it over drywall it doesn't work
If it's applied with Durabond, like the plaster placed first, then the mesh wiped and embedded into it... It works awesome, very strong joint. However, 99% of DIY drywallers or even DIY instructional videos show to just stick the mesh on the drywall and then mud over it. - that doesn't work, as evidenced by the ease at which I can strip off the tape, and also by 20 years experience of fixing walls and ceilings - 90% of the time I dig in and find it's mesh tape applied dry, with just the factory adhesive as the glue.
Amazing explanation. How much tapers get paid in Winnipeg by sq ft? Do you guys have union?
Thanks. There's a union but it's not very popular, most tapers are just independent. Sub-contracting from large drywall companies the rates are about .40, + a little extra for height or complexities. Direct to builders, rates are all over the place, but taping only, .65 would be considered competitive in large volume work. $1 or more for smaller stuff like additions or basements. Repairs, I just estimate my hours, X that by a 100, add material, and give it as a flat-rate quote, no break down.
@@Interior_Works the prices there are better than here in Toronto.
@@araujo773 that's surprising because Toronto has higher living costs. But I'm sure Toronto is a better place to live. I'd live in Toronto or Vancouver if I could afford.
@@Interior_Works the base price for Toronto, I asked past week, is 36 cents. With the extras, you can reach 42~45 in subdivision. Privete jobs are paying arround 50~55 cents flat rate.
The best city I know for taping is Ottawa. 36 cents but you don’t need to sand. They have sanding crews.
@Interior_Works it's a rat race around here especially cause of the lack of skill and foreign workers driving the price down. I've seen kids 14 years old working on union sites im in the union they send me to sites not for work its cause I'm the only one that has a union card and they know the unions are picketing those sites on those days cause of foreign workers most sites I go I use Google translate on my phone too talk to them usually head guy is English speaking and the crew is usually afraid to talk cause of the ringleader and what could happen
Come on we've all done it when the situation arrives. Not recommended but if you're a professional it has been done and made it look good.
Personally I can’t stand mesh tape….. especially when fibafuse exists
nice my man
"Fibafuse" fiberglass tape or "tuff tape"👍
reinforcing mesh is the worst shit😂
You gotta be a hack to mesh tape corners😄😄😄😄😄😷😷😷
Yes, but unfortunately it seems homeowner/DIY'ers keep doing it, perhaps at no fault of their own, because they learn from "drywall handyman" UA-camrs, who unfortunately always seem to get the most views on the subject.
Never put mesh in cornors 😅 ur right ppl in ur comments is rong
It's not that's its wrong way it's just I couldn't do it and guarantee it
If you're going to make a video on mesh, learn what you're talking about.
You just don't know how to use it.
It's funny how it was so strong it came off your seam wear the paper just tore and you acted like that was weak. 😂
You don't know how to use mesh in a corner. That was obvious from seeing you try to put the tape up. It's a totally different process. You made it ridiculously difficult.
In the North and been using mesh for decades even on new construction. No issues if you know what you're doing.