Thank you for just getting right to the prices. Hate UA-camrs that walk around the main part we come for for 8 minutes then get down to the main point lol.
Most UA-camrs don't know or care about the cost. That's because they get them for free. Ventrac's marketing is big on getting social influencers to shill their products...
Almost twice The cost of a 2 Series tractor fully loaded.. Worth every dime! I’m a home owner, I don’t use a tractor to earn money. I’m coming from City life and now manage out 12 acres I’d WV Rocky ridges and slopes. We decided against a typical tractor and got a 4500z with a 72” finish mower. A standard 2 series (we almost went Deere or Bobcat due to the local dealers being very abundant here). I discovered Ventrac and even though it was more invenstement it’s perfect for our land. I’m going to invest into a classic Deere 112 to help with some of the areas I’d rather not take the Ventrac. We did get a steal. We were able to get a demo with 31 hours with the 8 wheels, fenders, 12v hook up for a huge discount. We paid MSRPnfor the finish deck. I hope to add a power bucket, grapple, a tough cut, 3 in 1 and the hydraulics to run the back for a scoop as time goes along.
We have a ventrac it's gonna run circles around any traditional tractor brush cuter simply by the way its designed. Having the attachment uo front is way more efficient. Its also gonna be able to get in tight spots that a normal tractor won't go. Most importantly imo its not gonna tear up the yard wet or dry.
The Ventrac also shines on steeper hills (up to 30 degrees intermittently, as equipped). I doubt the Kubota can do that anywhere nearly as effectively as the Ventrac.
Appreciate the mention! For me going with the 2501 was the way to go as it fit the needs for the farm the best, can also share attachments with my other tractors. We paid $18047 out the door for l2501 4x4 hst with loader brand new. Where is your neck of the woods ?
That seems like a screaming good deal! How long ago did you buy it? The tractor by itself is clocking in over $19,000 now on Kubota's website. I am in NE Florida, an hour west of Jacksonville.
I'd say to Kubota is more versatile You can use a mower, a box blade, a tiller or disk cultivater and a front end loader with a bucket and grapples I know cause we have all that and more with our tractor
Keep in mind the Ventrac can take most if not all rear attaching, non-powered, Cat 1 3-point hitch attachments. Ventrac has their own mowers, tillers, FEL, and bucket/ grapple. Not saying one is better or worse, just that Ventrac has all those options as well.
Wow! Just bought a blue diamond bush cutter attachment for the dingo. I thought it was expensive but after seeing that price, I feel pretty good about it!
Not only is front attachments superior in almost every way, the Ventrac's options for attachments is where the unit shines. If you're running a business then there's no question. That Ventrac is going to make you money. From Bush Hogging to finish mowing to power raking to the vacuum for mulching and sucking up leaves in the fall. It does it all exceptionally good. But like he said, if you're just knocking down empty lots a few times a year and use it for other jobs that need the front loader, it may be your best option
Thanks for the comparison. For me personally, I like the fact that Ventrac went the extra mile to add such a diverse inventorry of attachments matched exactly for the Ventrac models instead of a Kubota customer having to research generic attachments for their attachment weights, types of coupling and hydraulic flows etc. In my opinion, the Ventrac system is a significantly better value even though it's price tag may be higher.
it's $35,000 here in canada with enclosed cab and all 30 attachments between kubotas and ventrac there the cheapest products on market then deere and newhollands are way over priced on theres plus kubota and ventrac are partners
I didn't off the bat. Do you see that as being the best deck for your overgrown type lawns? I am 100% serious, if you want to try it out let me know and if you have any interest we can plan a meet up! I could probably get a demo deck from a dealer somewhere and we could play around with it! :D
@@CopperCreekCuts hehe, yea, we would have great fun out mowing stuff. I'll keep that in mind but I have no overgrown stuff at the moment. I don't know if the performance of the flail deck would be better than the tough cut deck. I just saw them do a video on it, and there a great video on UA-cam of the Grasshopper mower mowing beautifully with a flail deck in the rough stuff.
it don't matter how much you make the danger you put your self in to help people if you are able to god bless you it would help your company more if you did once a month you did it for no cost for the elderly and you find them and how far they are from you just a suggestion anyways you are doing a great job god bless you and your family
I’m just wondering if you purchased this unit or are you doing a lease program? I knew the Ventrac is much more expensive than the tractor. But they are very different machines. In comparing them, you would also need a different trailer also. Thanks for the pricing cost.
Austin Texas my quote came put for 91,000$ 4520z dual kit, slope Guage, 3 point hitch, power bucket W/Grapple, Versa Loader, Power rake, and Terra rake. No canopy 91,000
the problem is it can't use any other farm implements . every implement for that machine is an other 5-10 grand . i bought a plow , disk , flail mower and cultivator for less than $1000.- all used but still working good .
Who remembers the Steiner tractor, and now ven trac, used to be made by honest religious people and now bought and made by big business, the Steiner brothers make an awesome machine make a excellent reputation and sell it to big business who care like the Steiner's did
Two big advantages of a traditional tractor over a Ventrac is a traditional tractor can have a much better loader than a Ventrac and a bigger tractor can be bought at the same price as a smaller Ventrac. For example I bought a 52hp Kubota MX5200 tractor for around $4k more than a 25HP diesel Ventrac. The tractor came with a loader rated to lift 825kg and with a 4 in 1 bucket. In a perfect world I’d have a Ventrac and a skid steer. I do not live in this world so I have a jack of all trades, a tractor.
How much would I miss my front end loader with bucket/pallet forks/grapple if I went with the Ventrac solution? I have a lot of tree work to do on my property and the grapple certainly helps with that. I'll go see if I can find videos of someone cleaning up a fallen or cut tree with a Ventrac.
Although you can get a bucket and grapple for the Ventrac, I don't know how well it would work for clearing logs. I think it's disadvantage is the lighter capacity of the bucket and overall lighter weight of the tractor. The advantage would be it's ability to work better on steeper hills. How well it would work on steep hills for clearing logs is something I'd like to see, too.
@@CopperCreekCuts hell no. Well actually in very short, non-power demanding grass it would work, but not in most peoples applications. The 48” model is the one best paired to that power level.
Today has been the best day in my company last year I got 3 clients (started last summer) this year just today I've gotten 3 new clients, I'm currently 13 years old and I'm wondering what a good start trailer would be, I'm planning on buying the Exmark Radius E series 52inch any recommendations?
I own a Ventrac 4500z and I can tell you these machines and the attachments are very overpriced. But, I could never manage my 26 acres in Appalachia without it. The hills here are just way too dangerous for anything else.
IK! Basically a brand new car. I mean it's not terrible price, if you have a need for it then you have to pay what you pay for a good quality piece of equipment that will last 10-15 years under good care
I don't think that is exactly a monopoly, but I get where you are coming from. Keep in mind it can accept Cat 1 3 point hitch attachments that don't need a PTO, so it isn't 100% proprietary.
@@CopperCreekCuts I understand what you're saying. John Deere does the same with their SSQA system and Tesla's proprietary supercharger network, along with Apple. Seems like more and more companies are going this route. All of us are consumers in some manner, thus are beneficiaries of competition. I believe this mentality is detrimental to innovation and the economy overall. They say the most dangerous phrase in business is: "We've always done it this way".
@@lawnguy3267 don’t listen to this guy he’s a business guy he works for the company he’s sponsoring them he’s gonna tell you all the good and give you bs stories. It’s exactly like John deer electric system but luckily there are hackers that can by pass it for local farmers so they don’t have to pay arm and leg for. It definitely a monopoly system these companies want you have no choice but to buy from them. Just like apple they use to roll out updates to older phones to make them die so you would have to buy a new one. It’s a scam. There no way I’m paying 30k for a lawnmower when I can buy a tractor that has more options and more powerful
@@lawnguy3267 Tesla and Apple in your example have end user license agreement restrictions for people that"own" The equipment. At least for John Deere and ventrac. Someone could fabricate their own attachments if they had the skill and ability
It's my understanding that, with some minor modifications, Steiner attachments will fit Ventrac tractors and vice-versa. Of course both brands' origins are from the original Steiner design...
Ventrac all day everyday. Way more versatile and the implement option list is substantial. Other than a front end loader on the Kubota the Ventrac seems like a better buy.
Thank you for just getting right to the prices. Hate UA-camrs that walk around the main part we come for for 8 minutes then get down to the main point lol.
Haha, you are more than welcome!
Totally agree!
lucky kubota and ventrac are partnered
Most UA-camrs don't know or care about the cost. That's because they get them for free. Ventrac's marketing is big on getting social influencers to shill their products...
Almost twice
The cost of a 2 Series tractor fully loaded.. Worth every dime!
I’m a home owner, I don’t use a tractor to earn money. I’m coming from City life and now manage out 12 acres I’d WV Rocky ridges and slopes.
We decided against a typical tractor and got a 4500z with a 72” finish mower. A standard 2 series (we almost went Deere or Bobcat due to the local dealers being very abundant here). I discovered Ventrac and even though it was more invenstement it’s perfect for our land.
I’m going to invest into a classic Deere 112 to help with some of the areas I’d rather not take the Ventrac.
We did get a steal. We were able to get a demo with 31 hours with the 8 wheels, fenders, 12v hook up for a huge discount.
We paid MSRPnfor the finish deck.
I hope to add a power bucket, grapple, a tough cut, 3 in 1 and the hydraulics to run the back for a scoop as time goes along.
We have a ventrac it's gonna run circles around any traditional tractor brush cuter simply by the way its designed. Having the attachment uo front is way more efficient. Its also gonna be able to get in tight spots that a normal tractor won't go. Most importantly imo its not gonna tear up the yard wet or dry.
The Ventrac also shines on steeper hills (up to 30 degrees intermittently, as equipped). I doubt the Kubota can do that anywhere nearly as effectively as the Ventrac.
Brad I bet you never thought you'd be driving a machine like the Ventrac when you started your channel !
You are 100% accurate. Anything about the way my channel is now I wouldn't have expected! :D
Got to go where the money is. More money in brush cutting then mowing!
Appreciate the mention! For me going with the 2501 was the way to go as it fit the needs for the farm the best, can also share attachments with my other tractors. We paid $18047 out the door for l2501 4x4 hst with loader brand new. Where is your neck of the woods ?
That seems like a screaming good deal! How long ago did you buy it? The tractor by itself is clocking in over $19,000 now on Kubota's website. I am in NE Florida, an hour west of Jacksonville.
@@CopperCreekCuts we bought it fall of 2021
Hey, Brad! Great info! 37K? That's it? PEANUTS!! I'll take two! haha! Thanks for sharing. Have a great weekend!
LOL Too funny! :)
Thanks Brad your always great with info on Ventrac does Ventrac also finance ! Thank you Navy
John in Maine!Great Video!
Thank you for sharing the info. Enjoy your videos. Thank you for your time.
Glad you like them!
I'd buy the Ventrac, works best in swamp FL conditions, plus It's all out front ahead of you. Nothing is more versatile than Ventrac.
I'd say to Kubota is more versatile
You can use a mower, a box blade, a tiller or disk cultivater and a front end loader with a bucket and grapples I know cause we have all that and more with our tractor
Keep in mind the Ventrac can take most if not all rear attaching, non-powered, Cat 1 3-point hitch attachments. Ventrac has their own mowers, tillers, FEL, and bucket/ grapple. Not saying one is better or worse, just that Ventrac has all those options as well.
normally gaming accully kubota is partnered with ventrac
@@CopperCreekCuts that is nice to know, I didn't know that and that does influence how I feel
Wow! Just bought a blue diamond bush cutter attachment for the dingo. I thought it was expensive but after seeing that price, I feel pretty good about it!
when i bought my tough cut deck 2 yrs. ago i had to buy the front wheel kit and the counter rotating blade kit also.
Very helpful... thanks for a succinct and informational video.
Great Video Brotha. Appreciate it.
Not only is front attachments superior in almost every way, the Ventrac's options for attachments is where the unit shines. If you're running a business then there's no question. That Ventrac is going to make you money. From Bush Hogging to finish mowing to power raking to the vacuum for mulching and sucking up leaves in the fall. It does it all exceptionally good. But like he said, if you're just knocking down empty lots a few times a year and use it for other jobs that need the front loader, it may be your best option
Thanks for the feedback!
Thanks for the comparison. For me personally, I like the fact that Ventrac went the extra mile to add such a diverse inventorry of attachments matched exactly for the Ventrac models instead of a Kubota customer having to research generic attachments for their attachment weights, types of coupling and hydraulic flows etc.
In my opinion, the Ventrac system is a significantly better value even though it's price tag may be higher.
Yes sir another video !!! I like to do a collaboration with you this year sometime this summer that be cool!!!
SC is a pretty long haul, but I will keep it in mind!
Good honest video
I appreciate that!
You inspire me to keep going with my concrete videos !!!
You can do it!
Wow, it weighs less than I thought. It costs about what I thought. (Totally worth it.) I'm curious, any plans to get the flail deck?
it's $35,000 here in canada with enclosed cab and all 30 attachments between kubotas and ventrac there the cheapest products on market then deere and newhollands are way over priced on theres plus kubota and ventrac are partners
I didn't off the bat. Do you see that as being the best deck for your overgrown type lawns? I am 100% serious, if you want to try it out let me know and if you have any interest we can plan a meet up! I could probably get a demo deck from a dealer somewhere and we could play around with it! :D
@@CopperCreekCuts hehe, yea, we would have great fun out mowing stuff. I'll keep that in mind but I have no overgrown stuff at the moment. I don't know if the performance of the flail deck would be better than the tough cut deck. I just saw them do a video on it, and there a great video on UA-cam of the Grasshopper mower mowing beautifully with a flail deck in the rough stuff.
@@michaelmactavish4445 Can you elaborate on what is $35000 with 30 attachments?
it don't matter how much you make the danger you put your self in to help people if you are able to god bless you it would help your company more if you did once a month you did it for no cost for the elderly and you find them and how far they are from you just a suggestion anyways you are doing a great job god bless you and your family
The most important thing is that you cut looking forward on the ventrac
I’m just wondering if you purchased this unit or are you doing a lease program? I knew the Ventrac is much more expensive than the tractor. But they are very different machines. In comparing them, you would also need a different trailer also. Thanks for the pricing cost.
Austin Texas my quote came put for 91,000$ 4520z dual kit, slope Guage, 3 point hitch, power bucket W/Grapple, Versa Loader, Power rake, and Terra rake. No canopy 91,000
Thanks
the problem is it can't use any other farm implements .
every implement for that machine is an other 5-10 grand .
i bought a plow , disk , flail mower and cultivator for less than $1000.- all used but still working good .
This is so helpful! Thanks very much…
Who remembers the Steiner tractor, and now ven trac, used to be made by honest religious people and now bought and made by big business, the Steiner brothers make an awesome machine make a excellent reputation and sell it to big business who care like the Steiner's did
way to much money for what it is.
Two big advantages of a traditional tractor over a Ventrac is a traditional tractor can have a much better loader than a Ventrac and a bigger tractor can be bought at the same price as a smaller Ventrac. For example I bought a 52hp Kubota MX5200 tractor for around $4k more than a 25HP diesel Ventrac. The tractor came with a loader rated to lift 825kg and with a 4 in 1 bucket.
In a perfect world I’d have a Ventrac and a skid steer. I do not live in this world so I have a jack of all trades, a tractor.
Good points that are all valid considerations!
How much would I miss my front end loader with bucket/pallet forks/grapple if I went with the Ventrac solution? I have a lot of tree work to do on my property and the grapple certainly helps with that. I'll go see if I can find videos of someone cleaning up a fallen or cut tree with a Ventrac.
Although you can get a bucket and grapple for the Ventrac, I don't know how well it would work for clearing logs. I think it's disadvantage is the lighter capacity of the bucket and overall lighter weight of the tractor. The advantage would be it's ability to work better on steeper hills. How well it would work on steep hills for clearing logs is something I'd like to see, too.
The HP required is PTO horsepower. Not engine horsepower.
Got it, so the L2501 wouldn't have any chance of running the 72" brush cutter then?
@@CopperCreekCuts hell no. Well actually in very short, non-power demanding grass it would work, but not in most peoples applications. The 48” model is the one best paired to that power level.
So I saw the bob cat sign in the tool cabinet area. Would you be up to selling it to me? I collect signs.
I will keep your info in case I ever redesign, but I am happy with it right now. (that was the old BOB CAT company before Bobcat got them)
@@CopperCreekCuts ahhh I see. Keep me in mind thx!
Today has been the best day in my company last year I got 3 clients (started last summer) this year just today I've gotten 3 new clients, I'm currently 13 years old and I'm wondering what a good start trailer would be, I'm planning on buying the Exmark Radius E series 52inch any recommendations?
For our friends in Ukraine, would it be able to tow a t72 tank back to the farm?
XD I don't know if I will ever have a chance to test that, but it would make for a viral video! :D
Way out of my price range. I would take the tractor any day.
WOW!!!
I own a Ventrac 4500z and I can tell you these machines and the attachments are very overpriced. But, I could never manage my 26 acres in Appalachia without it. The hills here are just way too dangerous for anything else.
Tractor will always win..
That's just to much money . How do they expect to sale these at that price?
IK! Basically a brand new car. I mean it's not terrible price, if you have a need for it then you have to pay what you pay for a good quality piece of equipment that will last 10-15 years under good care
The tractor is better u can run mowers from any maker ur not stuck to 1 maker so ur not held to 1 price machine
More than middle class homeowners can afford .
I like the Ventrac idea, but I don't like that every attachment is proprietary. Seems like a monopoly to me
I don't think that is exactly a monopoly, but I get where you are coming from. Keep in mind it can accept Cat 1 3 point hitch attachments that don't need a PTO, so it isn't 100% proprietary.
@@CopperCreekCuts I understand what you're saying. John Deere does the same with their SSQA system and Tesla's proprietary supercharger network, along with Apple. Seems like more and more companies are going this route. All of us are consumers in some manner, thus are beneficiaries of competition. I believe this mentality is detrimental to innovation and the economy overall. They say the most dangerous phrase in business is: "We've always done it this way".
@@lawnguy3267 don’t listen to this guy he’s a business guy he works for the company he’s sponsoring them he’s gonna tell you all the good and give you bs stories. It’s exactly like John deer electric system but luckily there are hackers that can by pass it for local farmers so they don’t have to pay arm and leg for. It definitely a monopoly system these companies want you have no choice but to buy from them. Just like apple they use to roll out updates to older phones to make them die so you would have to buy a new one. It’s a scam. There no way I’m paying 30k for a lawnmower when I can buy a tractor that has more options and more powerful
@@lawnguy3267 Tesla and Apple in your example have end user license agreement restrictions for people that"own" The equipment. At least for John Deere and ventrac. Someone could fabricate their own attachments if they had the skill and ability
It's my understanding that, with some minor modifications, Steiner attachments will fit Ventrac tractors and vice-versa. Of course both brands' origins are from the original Steiner design...
Ventrac all day everyday. Way more versatile and the implement option list is substantial. Other than a front end loader on the Kubota the Ventrac seems like a better buy.
The front end loader on the Ventrac does seem like a weakness.
Are you going to sell it like the mower or just pay the taxes out of pocket?
They are going to bury me with this Ventrac.
My kia soul was only like $23K.
Still paid to much for that crap box, pretty much all cars are cheap junk now and they charge more than ever for them.
Does the Soul mow overgrown lawns? Sweet! :D
Looks like I’ll be buying a used tractor.
Your machine cost more than my first house...
That’s a very expensive toy recouping the money threw lawn care is going to take quiet a while