Hi Devyn! Been loving these build videos and I just want to suggest for the dimensions of the cases to be included in the videos so we can easily decide if a case is for us. I think that's a great way to encourage potential builders in the future.
It's kind of nice to have a company laser focused on older gamers who don't want a giant case and also are interested in performance and style. Thst case is as much a conversation piece as it is functional.
@@TheTastefulThickness But nowadays PC cases designed with tempered glass/fish tank style to show off the inside RGB. I have trouble finding PC case without side tempered glass, aside from Fractal North. or COOlermaster NR200max
Absolutely love your videos! It seems popular to appear messy and careless in video's these days, but I don’t like it. I love the clean and sleek style you’re presenting products, because the craft and products actually deserves respect as well. Be kind to materials people, and, well.. to matter, for that matter 🤷🏻♂️
This case is AMAZING. It genuinely seems like a much better choice in the same vertical form factor than the NZXT H1 from a few years back. For what you are getting, the price is decent IMO, though of course on sale or if it was around that $350 price point it would be a no brainer choice. The fact that your Motherboard IO is accessible as well as the GPU compatibility and standard non-proprietary 120mm radiator makes this excellent
What about noise? I would prefer this one over the "normal looking" M1Evo, but latest reviews are showing that this case tends to be quite noisy in comparison. Whats your experience?
The problem with this case is the PSU exhausting hot air into the radiator. I fixed that problem with a small aluminum plate that allowed me to rotate the PSU 90 degrees counterclockwise so that it will exhaust out the back.
Thank you so much for this video. Right now I'm in the middle of building ITX computer and I couldn't decide between these two cases. You are the first one I found that compare both of them in term of temps. NR100 is nice but I will be going with NR200.
I replaced the radiator fan with a Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM. The stock Coolermaster fan was horrendously noisy out of the box. The Noctua Fan is very quiet and the cpu ran cooler in all situations with the Noctua fan installed. Coolermaster has hit on a pretty good idea here but as usual are shooting themselves in the foot trying to save a buck with crap fans.
Hello Devyn, I'm new to your channel, which I found as I was looking into ITX builds. I like your videos, how you build and explain what you are looking at when building with an ITX form-factor. I just was wondering, what do you do with these builds once you are done? Are these sent to you by the manufacturers to showcase their components and then return then to them or what happens afterwards? Keep up the good job!
nice looking case, i really like vertical tower cases and i wasn't expecting temps on the GPU to be that good honestly with how the fan just... throws heat into a panel
Having one of these cases for about a week, as much as I love the look the quality in the AIO pump and the psu is just too bad to keep it… building in an A4-h20 instead
The 4090 FE (And I think all of the 40 series FE cards IIRC?) exhausts through the HDMI/DP side, and on the GEFORCE RTX side it pulls air directly through the cooler and out of the top/back straight through the fan. At least that is my understanding of it. Either way same issue you were talking about - just slightly less crucial since at least the one fan will exhaust downward instead of straight back into the panel. Mightnot be considered ideal because it is tyring to send hot air downward via one fan, but seemingly less crucial since there will at least be space for the air to flow vs being blocked/restricted by the panel. Likely why you're still seeing acceptable performance/temps even with this style of card. Anyway. Love the videos. Production quality is awesome, and I love the variety in builds. Binging your channel always has me wanting to build another.
excuse me in this case, fits a Radeon RX 7800 XT for XFX QICK319 RX 7800 XT CORE? and I saw in your video that the power supply has a one connector, because of The Radeon has double connector of 8 pin
would of been kinda cool if you could fit some slim fans in the front of the case as exhaust and smaller 120 or 92mm fan at the bottom? To push air through the case.
Just added this to the cart to purchase. Been wanting to build an AI Dev machine for local LLM models and this is exactly what I've been waiting for. Thank you
Not bad actually, it wasn't putting any pressure on the port from what I can tell. There's a pretty decent amount of room underneath. Might be more of an issue if you use a longer GPU and have to lower the bracket/riser cable to the lowered position. Will have to test that.
Amazing video as alaways ! What microphone are you using in this video ? Can you do a setup / office tour please with all your camera gear and stuff ? Thanks !
Do you think we'll get an update to the NR200 anytime soon? I really like it, but it's been out a long time and it's missing usb c so I've been hesitating buying it and using it for my new build. I had my daughter build her first PC in the NR200 without the cooler, etc, and I was so jealous and wished my first build was using that case. Was so much easier to build in and the form factor is perfect for what I want.
@@derekyam1805 Yes, thank you. I saw someone else do a video on it and I really don't like the changes either. The usb c addition, great, the rest, nope. It broke the reasons that the case might be in consideration. Seems I need to go get myself an NR 200 now before they're gone and figure out how to mod in usb c to the front. I don't "need" the usb c there, but would like it for sure.
@tonyy.8852 I said "high demand." I didn't say overheat. Mid to high 80's and 90's. Plus, you can't cool the liquid with hot system air. You responded like I said it was totally useless or not sufficient. It's a poor design in my opinion. The radiator would be more efficient when placed somewhere it can draw cooler air. That was the only point.
yea cooler master definitely doesn't make a good PSU as far as i know. i haven't had this model specifically but i had one on my first pc and know a buddy who had one - they were both too damn loud; especially for a component where the fan should rarely need to turn on
absolutely, it is a copy, but i do not like the components he chose ... the PSU is 250Ws too much, the motherboard is 150 bucks overpriced, the GPU is not needed at all, if you use RYZEN APU ... the build is surely not an SFF build and it is surely not an cheap option what he is describing, ... the main point of SFF and ITX is, is building the most dense power station at the lowest cost and get the best output
@@alevilikvealevilerwhat YOU want from itx isn't what EVERYONE wants. Like bro... ryzen APU? Really? Not everyone wants to game at 2fps. How could you even begin to think that you have a popular opinion
Cooler master fgs make a case for people other than girls... Enough with all-proprietary pre-installed stuff. I may want a 280 AIO for my 7950X3D. I may also need a stronger power supply. Hell it's be better if they only included the PSU and let ME get a pathetic 120mm AIO of my choosing at least. This is really a lost opportunity as I dont think there are any decent cases that utilize height while taking away from the other dimensions, which is a go to for people with limited desk space. I have a meshlicious with a 7950X3D and a 3080, and I just wish that the case was just a little taller so I could fit the next gen graphics cards in there.
Who in the world wants a 120mm AIO? They are looking to have me buy more premium PC components by purchasing this configuration but then expect ill be cooling a very low end PC with that AIO? Totally insane. Just sell the case or the case + psu.
This case is more for gaming than for creators, and for gaming, a current gen mid CPU will do the job just fine, even with a 4090 (unless you reduce the details to 720p or something ridiculous like that). It totally makes sense, since CM is trying to reduce the footprint of the case to the minimum
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Hi Devyn! Been loving these build videos and I just want to suggest for the dimensions of the cases to be included in the videos so we can easily decide if a case is for us. I think that's a great way to encourage potential builders in the future.
sir can you please make a video about jonsbo c6 case with matx motherboard & atx psu, please sir it's an humble request sir.
What feels more structurally durable?
Nr200p max or ncore 100 max?
Love your content! You have done a great job with this one. I’m looking to build an itx soon! Probably this is the one I’m been waiting for
It's amazing to see how far itx pc components went to be mainstream
Mobos still kind of suck tho. Pay a massive premium for subpar IO.
Wake me the hell up when itx mobos price goes “mainstream”.
I honestly think people are just tired of having 100lb shiny rgb boats on their desk
I've been on ITX since haswell and it's amazing how much better things have gotten.
Just need that pesky ITX tax to go away.
@@XiaOmegaX too bad your paying for engineering, not really the products themselves
It's kind of nice to have a company laser focused on older gamers who don't want a giant case and also are interested in performance and style. Thst case is as much a conversation piece as it is functional.
@@TheTastefulThickness Usually kids prefer RGB over this kind of rafined look
@@LeRatVisseur most cases dont have rgb, its the components that do.
@@TheTastefulThickness i meant a « show off » case
@@TheTastefulThickness But nowadays PC cases designed with tempered glass/fish tank style to show off the inside RGB. I have trouble finding PC case without side tempered glass, aside from Fractal North. or COOlermaster NR200max
@@TheTastefulThicknessyou knew exactly what he meant. :)
Finally an actual review for this case
I like these "showpiece" ITX case designs!
Absolutely love your videos! It seems popular to appear messy and careless in video's these days, but I don’t like it. I love the clean and sleek style you’re presenting products, because the craft and products actually deserves respect as well. Be kind to materials people, and, well.. to matter, for that matter 🤷🏻♂️
This case is AMAZING. It genuinely seems like a much better choice in the same vertical form factor than the NZXT H1 from a few years back. For what you are getting, the price is decent IMO, though of course on sale or if it was around that $350 price point it would be a no brainer choice. The fact that your Motherboard IO is accessible as well as the GPU compatibility and standard non-proprietary 120mm radiator makes this excellent
What about noise? I would prefer this one over the "normal looking" M1Evo, but latest reviews are showing that this case tends to be quite noisy in comparison. Whats your experience?
The problem with this case is the PSU exhausting hot air into the radiator.
I fixed that problem with a small aluminum plate that allowed me to rotate the PSU 90 degrees counterclockwise so that it will exhaust out the back.
Do you have an stl model or drawings for it? Very interested in this
@garrek99 I would be interested in that too😮@@mashiori9020
a vertical layout like the meshlicious where you can install larger aio radiators would've been nice
Thank you so much for this video. Right now I'm in the middle of building ITX computer and I couldn't decide between these two cases. You are the first one I found that compare both of them in term of temps. NR100 is nice but I will be going with NR200.
I'd keep my NR200P Max, thank you very much. Way easier I/O and better cooling.
I replaced the radiator fan with a Noctua NF-A12x25 PWM. The stock Coolermaster fan was horrendously noisy out of the box. The Noctua Fan is very quiet and the cpu ran cooler in all situations with the Noctua fan installed. Coolermaster has hit on a pretty good idea here but as usual are shooting themselves in the foot trying to save a buck with crap fans.
Hello Devyn, I'm new to your channel, which I found as I was looking into ITX builds. I like your videos, how you build and explain what you are looking at when building with an ITX form-factor. I just was wondering, what do you do with these builds once you are done? Are these sent to you by the manufacturers to showcase their components and then return then to them or what happens afterwards?
Keep up the good job!
I'm pretty sure he sells them on is insta
Absolutely flawless
"The meatloaf is ready!"
The bronze version of this pc should be called "The Meatloaf". :)
nice looking case, i really like vertical tower cases and i wasn't expecting temps on the GPU to be that good honestly with how the fan just... throws heat into a panel
It needs to be about 4inches shorter.
What happens when the aio dies... Will they have the aio as a separate component so you can replace it or will the whole case be garbage?
Having one of these cases for about a week, as much as I love the look the quality in the AIO pump and the psu is just too bad to keep it… building in an A4-h20 instead
iTX PCs have come a long way though some components are still more expensive than regular ATX sized components
Wonder how temps compared to the Corsair 1000D.
EDIT: Meant the 2000D, not the 1000D
Honestly, this case seems better than the nzxt one, because of the motherboard io being on the back
CPU package power 68.37W only in NCORE 100 MAX cinnebench. That sounds restricted and it is half of it's TDP :)
The 4090 FE (And I think all of the 40 series FE cards IIRC?) exhausts through the HDMI/DP side, and on the GEFORCE RTX side it pulls air directly through the cooler and out of the top/back straight through the fan. At least that is my understanding of it. Either way same issue you were talking about - just slightly less crucial since at least the one fan will exhaust downward instead of straight back into the panel. Mightnot be considered ideal because it is tyring to send hot air downward via one fan, but seemingly less crucial since there will at least be space for the air to flow vs being blocked/restricted by the panel. Likely why you're still seeing acceptable performance/temps even with this style of card.
Anyway. Love the videos. Production quality is awesome, and I love the variety in builds. Binging your channel always has me wanting to build another.
The fan closer to the ports exhaust to that way, the other is just pass-through.
excuse me in this case, fits a Radeon RX 7800 XT for XFX QICK319 RX 7800 XT CORE? and I saw in your video that the power supply has a one connector, because of The Radeon has double connector of 8 pin
That bronze color would look good with some gold RGB shining through.
Did someone actually test if this case can fit a DTX Motherboard?
Would have been so nice to have both cases side by side on the desk...
Awesome case, something to consider when it goes on sale.
would of been kinda cool if you could fit some slim fans in the front of the case as exhaust and smaller 120 or 92mm fan at the bottom? To push air through the case.
It's basically an NZXT H1 or a HYTE Revolt 3, but artsy.
If I didn't already have a case that fit all my needs, I would've seriously gone for this.
10:18 is this a 9:11 referemce?
Just added this to the cart to purchase. Been wanting to build an AI Dev machine for local LLM models and this is exactly what I've been waiting for. Thank you
which case is better for the 14700kf ? this one or the nzxt h1 v2 ? im living in a hot tropical country which avg temp is about 34 degree celcius
A nice Cooler Master case
Thank you , super excited for the next one, really nice tease!
Another solid video!
What is the software you use when gaming that shows your FPS along with your CPU and GPU temps?
How’s the hdmi and display cable bend on the bottom?
Not bad actually, it wasn't putting any pressure on the port from what I can tell. There's a pretty decent amount of room underneath. Might be more of an issue if you use a longer GPU and have to lower the bracket/riser cable to the lowered position. Will have to test that.
The Bronze one with a Noctua RTX 4080 would look beautiful!
What's that monitor? seems very familiar
Either it is an alienware aw3423dwf or AW3821dw = 34 inch or 38 inch
@@kensg thanks. It is a shame we didn’t get an updated version of the dwf :( instead we got presented with 4k. Kinda bummed.
Updated the description to include the link for the monitor!
what on earth this is sff😂
Amazing video as alaways !
What microphone are you using in this video ?
Can you do a setup / office tour please with all your camera gear and stuff ?
Thanks !
Thanks! A setup tour might be a fun video to do one day. I'm using the Sennheiser MKH 416
Can it handle Gigabyte 4080 Super 350mm ?
how do you connect the hdmi and DP?
From the bottom. Then the cord feeds out the back.
@@devyn.johnston i see. Is it like meshlicious? The 90 degree hdmi connector to GPU?
bro can you recommend upgrades for 7010 SFF Optiplex? Fans, GPU, etc. A video would be great too! Thanks!
Love it - but price is a bit on the higher side 👍
I felt like I was watching a 10 minute infomercial
that is a amazing looking PC case
Awesome to see content on the ncore 100 max coming out I was starting to get worried that it was being ignored
Can you please try a build with shift ct case
love it
Tight, tight, tight, yeah man! Blue yellow pink whatever man, just keep bringing me that.
Can’t even buy this in the UK. Barely find a NZXT H1.
Ill wait for dan c4 v2
NZXT H1 V2 blows it hard especially at that price tag
awesome video, interesting case
Did he say 690 board?
The NR200P Max it is.
Next video with the Thorzone Nanoq ?? Let's go !
LETS GOOO IM SO EXCITED FOR THE NANOQ
Do you think we'll get an update to the NR200 anytime soon? I really like it, but it's been out a long time and it's missing usb c so I've been hesitating buying it and using it for my new build. I had my daughter build her first PC in the NR200 without the cooler, etc, and I was so jealous and wished my first build was using that case. Was so much easier to build in and the form factor is perfect for what I want.
There is a new nr200 V2, but there are some features that people don't like as it forces you to use a riser cable and aio
@@derekyam1805 Yes, thank you. I saw someone else do a video on it and I really don't like the changes either. The usb c addition, great, the rest, nope. It broke the reasons that the case might be in consideration. Seems I need to go get myself an NR 200 now before they're gone and figure out how to mod in usb c to the front. I don't "need" the usb c there, but would like it for sure.
@@mleii1169 Amazon has them for like 100 bucks sometimes, as the the usb-c, nothing a little diy can't help!
A 120 isn't going to be enough to keep the CPU cooled for high demand. Especially when you're pulling the heat of the system through that radiator.
Bro even a 47mm air cooler could cool a 7800X3D, that cpu is crazy efficient
@tonyy.8852 I said "high demand." I didn't say overheat. Mid to high 80's and 90's. Plus, you can't cool the liquid with hot system air. You responded like I said it was totally useless or not sufficient. It's a poor design in my opinion. The radiator would be more efficient when placed somewhere it can draw cooler air. That was the only point.
@@mstrwil73 I think the placement on FormD T1 is better, you can use a standard 240mm ones too
Have heard that the PSU fan on this is really loud - any comments?
50dbs on my unit lmao, returning it, sadly
Damn, that is quite the deal breaker. Thanks for the input!
yea cooler master definitely doesn't make a good PSU as far as i know. i haven't had this model specifically but i had one on my first pc and know a buddy who had one - they were both too damn loud; especially for a component where the fan should rarely need to turn on
@@Crunkmaster good to know, thanks for the heads-up!
Looks good design wise but is to big/tall for a itx case.
isnt this just a $400 phanteks evolv shift??
absolutely, it is a copy, but i do not like the components he chose ... the PSU is 250Ws too much, the motherboard is 150 bucks overpriced, the GPU is not needed at all, if you use RYZEN APU ... the build is surely not an SFF build and it is surely not an cheap option what he is describing, ... the main point of SFF and ITX is, is building the most dense power station at the lowest cost and get the best output
@@alevilikvealevilerwhat YOU want from itx isn't what EVERYONE wants. Like bro... ryzen APU? Really? Not everyone wants to game at 2fps. How could you even begin to think that you have a popular opinion
Seems huge compared to some of the micro itx cases…
Uninstall
Nr200 with 3D printed top mount AIO
Superior
Nice pc ❤
Emo Peter Parker prefer monochrome Grey color, yes!
Cooler master fgs make a case for people other than girls... Enough with all-proprietary pre-installed stuff. I may want a 280 AIO for my 7950X3D. I may also need a stronger power supply. Hell it's be better if they only included the PSU and let ME get a pathetic 120mm AIO of my choosing at least.
This is really a lost opportunity as I dont think there are any decent cases that utilize height while taking away from the other dimensions, which is a go to for people with limited desk space. I have a meshlicious with a 7950X3D and a 3080, and I just wish that the case was just a little taller so I could fit the next gen graphics cards in there.
1st
that's not SFF, this thing is literally 17,54 litres
If I am correct I believe SFF is often considered to be any PC case under 20 litres
^^yes. Sub 20 liters is the general consensus
Cool case but bundled AIO and PSU is an immediate deal-breaker. i'd prefer to use my own and just buy a $100-$200 case.
boring content
ITX mainboard should use laptop RAM stick, same performance but better airflow
Who in the world wants a 120mm AIO? They are looking to have me buy more premium PC components by purchasing this configuration but then expect ill be cooling a very low end PC with that AIO? Totally insane. Just sell the case or the case + psu.
Honestly it doesn’t make any sense. Why not let people run the best CPU if you’re giving them the option to run the best GPU?
This case is more for gaming than for creators, and for gaming, a current gen mid CPU will do the job just fine, even with a 4090 (unless you reduce the details to 720p or something ridiculous like that). It totally makes sense, since CM is trying to reduce the footprint of the case to the minimum
Bros not heard of the 7800X3D