Transplant A Laying Queen To Rescue A Hive
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I will follow up with another inspection on this queen in a day or two just to make sure she is doing OK and post a video of it. - Навчання та стиль
WOW, they were RUNNING to check out that frame. I don't think that was irritation, I think that was excitement, like IT'S A QUEEN!!!! AND BROOD!!! WE'RE SAVED!!!!
I really like the way you explain about how to watch for how the bees are behaving during inspections etc.
Thanks man. Why do we love fooling with bugs so much? lol
ha ha ha
These days when someone asks me what I do I tell 'em - I catch bugs. Boy, do I get some looks. ((-:
628DirtRooster This brings back memories. When I was a child a man gave me a bee hive. No bees tho'. It's strange how the Lord provides, a few days later I saw a bee honey comb up in a tree in the front lawn ! My older brother shimmied up and, got it ! Queen and, all. He also went to the library checked out a book about bee keeping. Geez, we knew about workers, drones, queen bees, ect. I'm amazed at how many people are afraid of bees, they only sting if ya' step on 'em. lolz
Edward H. Potthast Wow! What timing on that gifted hive box.
628DirtRooster I'll say, if somebody would tell me this story, I wouldn't believe it. lolz
Brother I appreciate the time and effort you have taken in sharing your experience in beekeeping. I have been able to use many tips in my own bee yard
Oliver McKinney Thanks for taking your time to watch and comment. Glad y'all are enjoying the videos.
I agree. I learn a lot about keeping and bee removal, and thoroughly enjoy the presentation of the information. 628 Dirt Rooster - For The Win!
Y'all do know that all those compliments are why he has a big head now, don't you? LOL
This guy must be a master at Eye-Spy.
when you flipped that frame at 05:55 my first thought was "wow! that's one BIG queen cell!!!" lol
Video was very instructive. Thank you for your honesty about your feelings.
If you havent noticed. Binge watching. I do believe your vids will get me through winter.. Happy Beekeeping.
The pressure is on to make more so you aren't tempted to watch reruns. :)
@@628DirtRooster not watching reruns. I'm a BEE newby. Was terrified of bees 7-8 mo ago. New to me.
Well I'm very glad you are spending time with us as you are working past your fear.
I find your channel to be very informative, and relaxing to watch. That is a good combination. Well done👍 Keep up the good clean entertainment.
Thank you. ✌️
Thanks so much for the comment.
Thanks so much for sharing your wisdom and experience. It was a great lesson for us
Thanks Eric. Glad it was helpful!
We tried I think it was durigilt foundation back many many years ago an all of our bees seemed to like natural wax so we strung wire and melted it into the natural wax foundations. It solved many of the problems you seem to be having with this hive ,cause happy bees make sweeter honey. We no longer keep and we are in the extreme NW corner of Ohio 3 mile from Indiana and 20 S of Michigan. Dad an I back when had a few hundred plus helped a few other keepers take off honey here in the fall. A couple hundred is a hobby but helping take off say 1,500 - 2,000 is work even when four good men go to a yard. Most of the yards were no more than 30 hives strong but when you were 4 sometimes 5 deep supers tall an you left the bottom two it's hot work !! Thanks for all your informative videos.
I was told the plastic frames have a very light coating of wax on it. if it has come off due to honey extraction or cleaning the bees won't draw until you re-coat with wax.
ok. once again i got my question answered by watching to the end of the video
+Matthew Schultz LOL
Always a learning experience watching your vids Bro!
Thanks
Take care
Thanks Les. I appreciate Y'all watching.
Great video - scary but great. Happy it worked out, I would have been afraid to try this so soon, shows you what I know... thanks for sharing this.
+CoyoteLight Thanks for watching.
That was very interesting, thanks for posting another informative video.. Take care
Thanks man.
This was interesting, thank you
enjoy the videos. Keep up the good work
+greg grider Thanks Greg
was very instructive Thank you for your many tips
you're doing god's work there buddy, love watching ur vids!
+I am Error Appreciate the comment.
Great topic and great video. Schools in my friend lol. I am learning heaps.
+Paul Windler No sleeping in class.
I’d like to see a bee putting pollen in their bags. I’ve never seen it. Also them taking it out.
Rooster A second comment. Many times I have united bees from a different colony through the newspaper method, or by misting both groups with sugar water with a few drops of vanilla in it. They all smell the same and get along well. Rick
really interesting; thanks for sharing.
why does it take them so long to draw that frame out? i just started a hive with package bees and a queen, i purchased dark brood comb to help boost the start, but as long as i feed them sugar water right now they are pounding out wax like crazy. in under a week they completely drew out a new foundation and my queen filled it with eggs. the fun will be the second brood box, will be mostly frames and foundations. im so Jazzed up about all of this! great hobby and up here we have massive honey flow.
I'm thinking of getting into beekeeping since it sounds so interesting but I just found out that you could actually make some money out of it. Do you know anything about that? Like have you ever sold your honey?
There is a potential to make a profit.
628DirtRooster Thanks for fast response but for example do you make any money through beekeeping? All the outcome such as sugar water and pollen seems to be too much for you to be able to make a profit out of it but I'm probably wrong. Just a wild guess, how much money would i make a year if i sold 50% of all the honey from 2 beehives?
Beep Beep I Is Jeep From two hives you'll pay for some of your startup expenses.
Thanks for videos
Thank you for watching.
You are like a God to them.
Very awesome!!!
thanks, good info brother ! thats some good learning there. experince
Thanks Tony. Hope all is well with Y'all.
Another good video, top work.
Thanks man. How are things on the other side of the world?
628DirtRooster Busy, I just don't have enough time to get what I want done, plus I may have to move houses in the city soon. I hate moving!
I'll have another couple of vids up this week. I moved a hive from the city to the shack and I got my apple trees pruned. I made a major boo boo while pruning the apples, but I'll keep it in the video as a lesson for others. Measure twice, cut once and WATCH what you're cutting. :(
So far all of my hives seem to be doing okay, but I haven't opened them up since April. I've got plenty of flowers in the yard and in the surrounding area and it won't be long and the wattle will be flowering.
Pop's Shack I hate moving because I always lose things that I really need. Besides its just a drain on time and the wallet.
Looking forward to the videos.
Even on a video, seeing a queen on the frame makes me pucker up a bit. :)
LOL
For anyone interested in beekeeping its best to take a years class so that you know what youre doing. The beehives need to be registered with the state and inspected by an FDA inspector who comes to your house or field and inspects the hives. They ask you questions about management, diseases and pests. Also state law is favorable to bees and trumps any law made from county or city against bees.
Hi 628DirtRooster. I keep bees in Australia, and want to know a few things from your video.
1. Did you place the whole frame of new brood with the new queen into the weak hive?, or did you just flick the queen off the frame into the new hive. I thought they would reject a whole frame of new bees if you did do that. (At about 10mins 30sec in your video)
2. Would they be more likely to accept her if she was in a cage for a day or so?
3. Is it a given that the original hive will produce a new queen?
Cheers mate,
Matt
i can't get mine to draw comb on plastic foundation! I just brush melted bees wax on wooden starter strip on the top bar under the frame, and make them draw out comb, i quit buying foundation cost way to much! I did take wax foundation and cut 2" wide strips and put it under the top bar that works just as good as a whole sheet, (( i even quit that! )) Went to brushing melted bees wax on the wooden starter strips! There nail and glued into the grove "saw blade width," under the top bar there 17 " long, width of the grove and 1 1/2 " wide
I heard if you just rub them with wax or soak them in sugar water then they should work just fine, but you're right about one thing, if they haven't drawn out the comb for the last few month it's best to get rid of them.
lirg123 I just get rid of that junk all togather, and there just not worth what you pay for wax or plastic foundation!. If you still have wax foundation can make it stretch out by cutting 2" wide strips as wide as the frame and place it under the top bar that help too give you more frames with foundation or starter strips for comb. I quit buying it all togather and found that pouring honey wax down the middle under the top bar of the frame works just as good and a lot cheap. Thanks for the info Cheers
I like the wax sheets for several reasons but we just never have used much of them.
628DirtRooster you ever make you own wax sheets for your hives. I know you have a bunch of wax I have seen it in your vids. Way out west something( The name just slips me damn it sucks getting older) he shows how he does it. Thought you might be interested. Still trying to get equipment(unemployment and a lack of a vehicle kind of has me financially crippled) and I know I need a suit I am allergic(doc said so) but I am trying to do it on the cheap. There are swarms in SW Florida every year. And I know where there is a wild hive, and they are calm. Going to build boxes and I think I can capture swarms even on the ground. Set up my box couple drops of lemongrass oil .sugar water set up out side the box but close to the entrance CROSS my fingers and wait. I think it will work because I can set out sugar water and get a large cloud of bees. Way more than one hive I am certain it is more than one hive because on a single container of sugar water the bees will fight and the fight will end then the bees will all feed. Then a few bees will come in and again they will fight, so I am pretty confident it is competing hives. Put out multiple containers and I rarely see a fight. So I am gearing up. Thank you very much for this itchy bug I watched you and you caused this lol (its all good you just perked my interest) wish me luck at capturing swarms. Wish me well in capturing a wild hive its like 8 feet off the ground and the comb is about 18 inches by 18 inches with maybe 10 or 12 individual combs.
Thanks for reminding us to do as you SAY, not as you do, LOL, so, what do you use to write on the top of the hive, I assume it can easily be removed, but doesn't wash away with moisture
When adding a new box, is it best to checkerboard both boxes?? I hear the Acorn frames are better coated, and drawn
I usually use last year's queen marking pen.
that was really interesting. I am jealous of all the things you can do without the killer bee population we have in San Diego. Keep the vids coming. they are great.
Thanks man. I love San Diego. I worked out there for a while in 2003 - 2004.
facebook.com/encinitasbee
Encinitas Bee Company Interesting queen spotting method.
Local news. www.10news.com/news/encinitas-man-fighting-to-save-honeybees-beekeeper-wants-city-to-restrict-use-of-pesticides-09022014
I know it's been 6 years, but how did this experiment work out?
Cool vid my friend!:)
Keeping it real Joe. LOL
What causes a hive to swarm and has could you prevent it.
628DirtRoosterBees can you explain to me why it seems you dont want, or think down on drone brood?
If a queen is not doing her job will a colony kill her off to produce another queen? Im a want to be beekeeper and was curious if a colony would do that.
I think it would be much safer to introduce your queen in a cage with a candy plug. You might lose 24 hours of egg laying but there is much less risk to the queen.
You are right about that. I wish I had gotten it on video but I tried to introduce a virgin queen to a hive that I thought was queenless a month or so ago. It would have been good video to play in fast motion with some Benny Hill music. I got her out of the bee riot and saved her from balling only to watch her fly up in the air, then between my legs and out into the woods.
nice job
Thanks Terry. I was relieved that they accepted her so easily.
good
that mantis is like "im outta here"
Hey Rooster, I had the same thing happen to one of my Queens this year, she was a first year Queen who was about four months old, her young were great producers and very gentle so I loved working them. I got into the hive and started going through frames and noticed the same things, no eggs or larvae, but a very healthy looking young Queen. I took her out and plopped her in a Nuc, thinking maybe a change of scenery might kick-start her, but no dice. I had to re-queen with one of the Russians, within a month they were as nasty as the other hives. Hope you work it out, maybe the change of scenery would work better with your Queen than mine? Happy Beekeeping, Cole.
I've tried moving them around before but I've learned the hard way that once she quits like that it's time for her to retire. I think she just may not have been mated properly.
628DirtRooster Yup, but retiring a beautiful Queen like that is always a sad thing. I always dip the Queens in a vial of alcohol and use that alcohol to bait swarm traps, it seems to work pretty well.
Cole I That's what we've started doing.
Cole I We don't have any Russians. I hear that despite being mean they are good honey producers.
Yeah, they make loads of honey, but they have loads and loads of propolis on top of that, and they don't always put it where you want them too, if you put a super on they'll fill up the brood box, and vice versa, You seem to be able to deal with stings well, so maybe you ought to try out some Russians.
What is that combination scraper & pry bar you have called? Both of those are tools I use daily at work, and would love to have a combo one.
+DannyWarlegs Called a J Hook Hive Tool.
hey rooster u just got another sub
Much appreciated Mr. Morgan. I hope you enjoy the videos to come.
hi watched all your vids thanks for putting them up one question how long roughly is it
from when you done the split for a new queen to to be born to laying eggs thanks
That hive will have a queen emerge in 14 to 16 days depending on which eggs they select. The new queen will breed around the 6th to 10th day typically and begin laying a couple of days after that. Since drone numbers are down right now that mating time may vary some.
if you transfer the brood eggs to the other hive will they make a new queen out of them
Its been three years - you probably know the answer. But its a good question, so i'll answer it - yes. But he transferred the young brood, eggs AND a queen because they had no brood or queen. A queenless hive without brood becomes depressed and desperate - they have no way to make a new queen and queens don't normally just walk in when they put out "Help Wanted" signs. Giving them both a frame of brood and a queen gave them a huge boost and saved the hive. The other hive was very strong and had lots of brood and eggs from which they could produce a number of virgin queens in about two weeks.
Google says the average lifespan of a honey bee is 1 - 10 months. If that's accurate, with so many bees, what becomes of the bodies? Do they often die inside the hive?
+xHasten They do die inside the hive and other bees carry them away.
628DirtRooster Ah. Thanks for the insight.
What happened to the queen that wasn't laying anything?
Ok, I know this is an old video but, if you take the queen from the one hive and they will produce a new queen, why not just take the queen that's not laying out of the other hive and let them produce another queen?
Edit: Ok, I think you answered my question when you said if you didn't find the queen you would just take a frame of brood from the good hive and put it in the other. I assume that would give them the opportunity to produce a new queen with the brood from the other hive.
4:52 welp, there is the proof of your answer... you did use an excluder for the super
You say it doesn't have to be pretty, just functional. Well I have a question regarding upkeep of hive boxes. Obviously you wouldn't want to poison the bees, so are there kinds of paint or stain or whatever that you would or would not want to use if you were to be re-covering older ( or covering brand-new) boxes, lids, etc? I notice that only the outsides get painted, but you do see them hangin' out on the outsides sometimes. So I would chose latex for simplicity, otherwise I'd use tougher stuff to last longer than latex in outdoor applications, but I don't know what bees could or would tolerate. Just curious.
Outdoor latex paint is the best but you can use most anything as long as it's cured. Most people I know just grab what ever "oops" paint they can get at the paint stores. There are even some treatments involving diesel fuel or boiled linseed oil but the boxes have to sit and air out for months before being put to use. The only real possibility of harming the bees from an exterior treatment would be if the product was not dry. They don't do much with the exterior surface except when they "wash board" but even then they aren't chewing. In summer the will chew on gaps if the boxes don't fit tight but they aren't ingesting anything.
hate to bother you but my 2 mo. old nuc has filled up both brood boxes should i add a third one. thanks
My advice is going to be for the southern US so I'll say it depends a little on where you live. I'd say if you are still feeding you can stack. Right now there is not much in bloom until golden rod comes on so unless you are feeding you queen might be slowing down her laying. Just be careful not to give more area than they can manage since beetles are bad this time of year and your hives need to be strong enough to fend them off. I probably wouldn't stack a third unless I saw signs that they were thinking about swarming.
Thanks for the info brother : )
My pleasure
how long have you been doing bee keeping?
7 years
That's Awesome : ) what state you from? I'm from and live in Louisana: )
Gulfport, MS
What's the difference in moving the queen to the queenless hive rather than move a frame of eggs and larvae to the queenless hive. Are you risking losing the queen to being rejected.
Moving the queen gets them new eggs in a day. Moving a frame gets them new eggs in a month. A queenless hive won't generally reject a bred queen if introduced properly.
what do you do with bad queens? Also, do the bees ever get mad when you try to take their queen?
Throw them away. The bees don't defend her.
I’m new to beekeeping can you go over how to start a new Hive?
Clumsy bees running into your head because they thought it was a hive box. They just couldn't find the opening.
LOL
Had they waited a bit - he'd have opened his mouth!
@@julieenslow5915 Most likely, to laugh. He does have fun with his bees.
@@johntripp2028
As he should!
Do you ever wonder if the bees are like, "Durnit DirtRooster I just *MADE* that. Cut it out!"
+Leslie Johnson Just like when you just finished your sand castle and the tile comes in.
+628DirtRooster man after watching so many of your vids this weekend , me and the Misses have gotten to the point of trying guess what your gunna do . trying to test our knowledge. my wife wants bees something terrible , currently live in city but getting house ready for sell . moving out by mom and dads , hopefully on decent piece of land. lots of keepers out in that area. so we being self sufficient types are looking into beekeeping strongly. bro. thank you very much for all the very very informative vids
I'm having the same problem. ..this is my 1st hive and they are booming. ..they drew out the entire bottom so I added another deep with wax coated plastic frames and they are all over in the new box but won't draw anything :( it's driving me crazy cause I really wanted them to have the extra space and I can't find anyone to sell me frames that are already drawn out.
Any suggestions?
Feed 1:1 sugar water. It'll help them build.
what happened to this hive? did the other hive make another queen?
Can't remember. It's been too long and too many hives ago. :)
If you don't mind me asking, what did you do with the queen that stopped laying?
We add her to a vial of mashed up queens in alcohol and use them for swarm lures.
Oh, lovely cx
At least she doesn't go to waste
How do you weh or if the bees are sick
Slow moving, poop on the boxes, short wings, deformed bodies and so on...
Lost my old phone and passwords so I had to make new youtube account and trying to subscribe to all the channels I had and 628 Dirt Rooster 🐓 was the first subscription on new phone! Also , I am deathly allergic to bees 🐝 but I really , really want to become a bee keeper! Any advise or suggestions??!
Yes, get an epipen and don't skimp on the PPE. Be very very careful. I know others that do it though.
wish i cud work with no veil--but I have a thing against pain-lol
+greg grider Me too. That's why I don't mouth off to my wife.
628DirtRooster good idea! Never ends well lol
628DirtRooster That’s why you still have a wife Rooster 🤫😉
And such a PRETTY wife! You are a lucky man, and you know it!
Train yourself to overcome pain. Master your flesh.
so what foundation was your brother using you never said after the video
+Runnen Reb I don't remember what he was using then but we use rite cell now.
+Runnen Reb By the way I put a link to your swarm capture video in the description section of one of my videos. Hope that's OK.
+628DirtRooster. Sure what was the description What not to do with a bee swarm lol
+Runnen Reb ua-cam.com/video/aA4YS5O2jzU/v-deo.html
what the home depot bucket for
Just for trash comb or something to sit on.
i got a comment, from another beekeeper, that said its already too late in the season for the bees to make a new queen (not sure what it meant i have a general idea). Why not just combine the two hive?
As long as there are still male bees (drones) around it is not too late to make a new queen.
They can always make a queen but if enough drones aren't there she won't get mated properly.
Constant Gardener Constant Gardner is right and as you can see my hives have drone brood in them right now. That's because I've been feeding them up.
Maybe what they meant was that the queen may not have enough time to build up enough of her own bees to see her through the winter. Depending on where you are, some queens can shut down egg laying early
I have bee alerges do you think bee keeping is for me.
There are others who do it. They just suit up good and then make sure no bees are on them before they undress
628DirtRooster thanks so mach you are a job saver yay bees🐝🐝🐝🐝
I've always wondered while I watch your videos I take it that too many drones or too much drone brood produced is a bad thing? can I ask why that is? I thought the more bees the better so that maybe you fan split etc...
They produce more drones when they're ready to swarm and drones do no work.
Then what are drones purpose?what ate they good for?
Earl Cannady They are the gigolos of the colony. ;) They mate with the queen and then their life ends.
Ahh OK. Well damn! Not a bad gig except the end of life part
Earl Cannady Yeah, doesn't end well for them.
Where do you get your queens? It would be nice to not get attacked every time I open my hive.
My dad grafts. They are mostly Italians. We don't ship yet but will likely start next year.
628DirtRooster Sign me up for a few of those, maybe they'll dilute the Russian aggressiveness.
628DirtRooster thanks for the reply rooster. if you decide to start selling I would be interested, so post an ad. Where abouts are you btw?
jeremy crowder Will do Jeremy. We're in south Mississippi.
628DirtRooster how do you feel your queens would overwinter in tennessee?
So, is it typical for a honeybee to be benevolent? No beekeeping attire made me nervous just watching you, lol. The last commenter said that he put a Russian queen in and it "turned" the hive nasty? Is it a genetic thing or does the queen influence the whole hive's "attitude"? Sorry for the questions, I'm just naturally curious.
+ThrowItOnTheGrill I would think that the bees have a "Hivemind"so the queen leaving would make them be individuals.
+Sir Boxed Wine They still maintain the hive mindset but they get more irritable and flighty.
What type of bees does he have. They look like honey bees but I'm not sure
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! Maybe they didn’t like her marked
Rooster, If you think you must use that plastic foundation why not give it a second coat of melted beeswax? Rick
I can't tell the difference from a queen cell and a normal one.
+Sir Boxed Wine The queen cell hangs vertical and looks sort of like a little peanut. All other cells are oriented horizontal.
I think that’s the one that your dad marked
look like you need some new foundasion in your frames
So I'm going to guess that your birthday is 6/28?
No but close. It's within 6 months of that. lol
628 is the engine size on my old dirt bike the "Rooster". This was started as a dirt bike riding channel. I have ADD. ;)
Oh, Okay
Yo
Git it!
I would have put her in a cage and let them chew the candy out while getting used to her.
frames are to old they make the bees to small.
I do have some really old ones but all these are two years or less.
the more they breed in them the thicker the walls get.
allan f That makes sense
I'm guessing a virgin queen won't lay eggs?
If she doesn't get mated she is capable of laying but on unfertilized which makes drones.
628DirtRooster thanks, when she flies up and mates with a drone does she go back to the same hive?
Yes
Thanks man you're the best
Maybe she’s acting like trump