D4 was declared dead by the internet "experts" in August 2023. How it is still around is a miracle. Unfathomable. Could these people not know what they were talking about?
@@cgermanpeople have been saying this since D3, and yet here are! D4 sales prove the IP is not yet dead, but merely evolving. All the old heads still nostalgic about D1 and D2 are finally leaving. Good riddance. Sick of their whining about how the new games are trash.
@@t4m1r4s and what's wrong with that? Not all people want to play a game where you need to open 10 tabs for every session. D4 never market their game as a game for hardcore players like PoE. D2 is casual friendly also nothing hard except maybe for uber tristram.
@miqueljames9 they definitely haven't lol out if the last 5 expansion each one has been better then the last with the most recent one being the highest to date
@@SK-do5rv "Out of the last 5 expansions." Let's see...Shadowkeep was bad to mid...Beyond Light was mid...Witch Queen was good...Lightfall LOOOOOOOL bad...and Final Shape, finally a reliably good one that required Bungie to end a 10 year saga, put everything on the line and now the game is bleeding out. So no. Most of their recent expansions (and seasons, if we're being honest) have been "make or break." The only reason they haven't ACTUALLY been "make or break" is because many in the community have been too invested to hold Bungie to task. Glad to see that's been changing.
Did you see their revenue numbers? They are raking in the cash. I still think the game is too simple, too easy, and lacking in content and variety. But some people seem to like it very much. I'd rather play Torchlight Infinite over D4 and that is saying something. Skipping the campaign and running helltides with the same skills for 50 levels just to get to the "good part" of the game is just an awful experience in my eyes.
Probably played more d4 than any other game this year.. it’s not as in depth but it really helped me to get over losing my dad and cat this year. Sometimes hours of brainless grind can be really good.. i’m looking forward to the expansion and new season.
Condolences. I agree while it is far from perfect it is still fun to log in from time to time tackle some infernal hordes or tormented bosses. @nathanmartin455 Thanks for that thoughtless and pointless reply.
@@nathanmartin455oh yea we can all see why you don't like diablo. Comparing Elden ring and Harry Potter. Nice. We don't care if you don't play. It makes the servers less populated ie less lag. Works for me. See ya!
Have they (GGG) said it is free for ALL in November? Last I saw they said it was like previous early access/betas. In past POE situations you had to buy an expensive supporter pack or have had spent a certain amount on MTX in POE to be eligible. Until they clear this up you may want to leave 11-15 open on your gaming calendar...
@@Juggernaut76 Iirc you either have to purcahce a supporter pack, or if you have spent a certain total amount already on your account you get access. They did the same thing with 3.0 back in the day.
So, let me get this straight. You're going to play a game from a company KNOWN THROUGHOUT HISTORY as one that flips its own assets in their games to make the game longer... but make it insanely repetitive.... because, you're too "jaded" to play a game that doesn't force you to do that? Bruh...
It's great. Maybe not for streamers who no life the game but for me who plays a couple hours a night it's perfect. I've leveled all the classes this season where normally I do 1 or 2. I think the game is fun af and love blasting. But hey keep the game servers unpopulated. Less lag spikes while playing. oh nooo.
I pre-ordered D4, made a level 100 Rogue, did lots of grinding Helltide/Nightmare dungeons, played season 2, made a level 100 Barb, and then I've never touched the game since. It might be awesome now, but after putting in so much time, I just got bored of it. I'll probably never play it again. Lol.
I loved how they were always saying send in your feedback. Apparently crusader/paladin was an overwhelming request. Then they release something out of left field, a baby from a druid and monk.
Yup, idiots at Blizzard got all of the DnD character archetypes EXCEPT Paladin. We got Warrior (Barb), Wizard, Rogue, Druid... buuuttt No holy based class. You done fucked up blizzard.
I think they are moving with lore, as technically paladins were wiped out due to various influences, and crusaders are on the back foot for some odd reason
@@CaptainMetalwing then they would bring Crusaders due to them being stronger in lore, which I would be fine with, but the playerbase, by and large, was asking for paladins, which were wiped out at the minimum decades prior. But yea, they could just write them back in
@@CaptainMetalwing Yeah but, with everything changing like it has I'm glad they didn't cause there's already a lot to correct still and having a really bad lore reason for a holy class being there would just add fuel to the fire of complaints. I'm sure they will add them within the next year but, it will be when the games identity is more solidified.
I will end up playing it but I don't think they've solved the biggest problems, which imo, are the layers of RNG to extend the "end-game" loop. It isn't fun to brick items with random upgrades on random drops, with random affixes, and random greater affixes. If you brick it you're back to square one, and that feels like Lost Ark without swiping and with fewer avenues, options, and room to progress. Giving you more chances to brick items is just a band-aid solution from Wish. Problem #2 is balancing. I think they made a huge mistake somewhere along the line where nobody knows how to balance things in this game. Certain builds are overwhelmingly more powerful than everything else (even after PTR balances are implemented), and other builds just feel absolutely terrible. You have such limited choices and even more limited creativity. They didn't want to force people into builds with D3 item sets, but here we are with the same problem. If you're a player who enjoys pushing content and min-maxing, then you're stuck to 1-3 options, and most of the time that's 1 or 2 classes and a lot of the time certain aspects are mandatory as well as affixes. My play style is different then some but not different from everyone, where I typically pick my class based off of my own preferences, and then at some point I'm forced into a specific build to accomplish what I want to during the season. Or I'm forced to reroll in some cases where that class simply isn't capable. The cherry on top is when I feel forced into a build and then don't even enjoy the playstyle. #3 why are you able to get Mythic Uniques and/or BIS items on day 1 for fast or dedicated players? I understand casual players or people with full time jobs want to be able to obtain them too, and I have no issue with that, but I don't think the issue is the lack of time to get the mythics, I think the issue is there is nothing else to aim for. There's no real stepping stones, no sense of progress, then you just get the best items in the game and now what? Push the pit where there isn't a leaderboard and to get nothing special from it at all? Run the gauntlet where you'll have to completely change your build without the use of a preset to swap between for little to no rewards in a near-dead game mechanic? Bump the World Tier up which isn't even difficult, as shown in the PTR? What happened to that awesome feeling of farming some bosses and after a few days you get that precious drop you've been waiting for to be able to push higher content somewhere else or farm the next boss or push for the last few important levels of your build or... anything? Killing Ubers feels like a chore. Go run some mindless "fetch quests" to farm a single boss that is mildly interesting at best with little to no challenge even for sub-par builds (see #2 for balance issues and remember vanilla D4 Lillith? that was fun and was a challenge). It doesn't feel fun now that the new factor wore off several times over, and it only feels rewarding until a few moments pass when the next question pops into your mind... now what? I hate to say this, but my retention rate on Diablo Immortal was FAR longer than D4, and I didn't swipe even one time. I feel that at this point in the Diablo franchise it has officially turned into a game that is only meant to earn a few bucks from a moment of passing attention rather than being a game to stick to. One week every season you log in to check some boxes off, hope they buy the battle pass and maybe some cool transmogs that you can't earn anywhere in the game, while the player hopes to get their money's worth before loading up that game that you always go back to. Diablo 4 isn't a "bad" game, imo, it's just missing a lot and it honestly is still one of, if not, the smoothest ARPGs out there. It has potential, and that's why some of us still hope that it'll course correct, but time is now officially out because PoE2 *will* be that game. Sincerely, a gamer who places Diablo 2 as my favorite game of all time, during it's time and November 15th there will be a major contender for that place in my heart.
Diablo 4's been pretty darn good for 5 months. If people didnt come back in season 4 they've missed out and probably wont ever come back but when you log on there are a crap load of people playing any time day or night. They say its "too casual". i challenge anyone to not use a guide and clear the highest pit level thats been reached for whatever class they are playing. I promise almost no one will be able to do it without a guide.
There's nothing to gain for doing the highest level of content is the problem meaning the game is casual. D2 had Uber tristram and you could get torches and decent loot but then D4 has a time sink that has no chase loot for that activity other than maybe some lame title.
I personally really like D4 right now. It's perfect as a casual arpg. I don't think the "last chance" thing applies anymore. It's a full game now, either you like it or not.
Eh, what? How is it a full game now but not before? If anything, teh game lasted longer on release than it does in its current iteration where you rush to the end very quickly.
@@zeriel9148 It was technically a full game, but there was literally no endgame. Like nothing. Now there's masterworking, mythic farming, pit levels and hordes. I'm not saying the game is overdosing on content, but now it feels like a complete package from beginning to end. In my opinion of course
@@virdixxii8341 There was NMD up to 100. Really, nothing much has changed in that regard. Yes, they give you more item power... but do you really need it? And on release, player power level was such that NMD 100 was about as challenging for most people as the pits are for them now. It's all just been a reskin of the same shit since launch. I feel the complete opposite of you; it's about pacing. You race through all the content much faster now, so I can't fathom how someone feels it is more "complete" now unless they just think having 3 different varieties of the same basic activity is more complete. Arguably, the pacing was much better balanced back in 1.0, it's just that people didn't like the design. Which is fine. But that's the design the game was made around, it's why the game is so imbalanced now and they keep having to patch the progression.
I'm also happy and surprised Poe is doing that well while not trying to cater to the "mainstream" and "all audiences" but still to the same people who actually enjoy complexity, just doing it way better this time around.
I finally decided to give D4 a chance 12 days ago. Now I have 252hrs in the game and I preordered vessel of hate ultimate. Safe to say I’m hooked 😭😭😭🤣🤣
As a 52 yr old who’d never played a Diablo game or even an a-rpg before I think Diablo 4 is flipping brilliant. Some of those cut-scenes are simply breathtaking too.
it's not as people make it out to be, they're just whiny bitches. - I've never seen a game where people continually try to undermine other people's fun. I hate FF14 but I don't go into every forum and youtube video bitching about how its the worst game ever that I'll never play it again.
the game is so great it has currently 700 viewers on twitch, while poe is still solid between 5-10k viewers at any time of the day after 1.5 months of the league start 🤣
@@tomieedzsiYeah no one cares, because D4 made 150 million $ only from cosmetics in a year. PoE, while obviously being a pay 2 win game, made only 37,5 million. Conclusion? Casual dads don't watch Twitch, but they still keep the game alive whether you like it or not.
I've been enjoying the game tbh. Playing casually each season since launch and the game has definitely improved. But of course I am really looking forward to PoE 2 as well.
Last chance? There is nothing wrong with the game. If you don’t like Diablo type games then you never will. D3 has a quarter of D4’s content and we’re still complaining.
And they are now implementing the best systems from D2 and D3, while expanding on the open-world and the new systems. This game is A LOT better than diablo 3 I.m.o.
Nothing wrong with the game????....dafuq you smoking? This game has been a shit show and yet ONCE AGAIN....they are resetting all of the mechanics..... it's a complete shit show.
@@Francis-of8cwwhat are they implementing from D2? And don't say rune words because this isn't even remotely the same as D2 rune words and this new system is dog shit
@@bungmonkey2295 Sorry, but everyone who supports that pricing model of Diablo 4 is just stupid. The expansion should be boycotted. An annual fee for shit that should be in seasonal updates. A pay2play game with $25 dollar skins per class, season pass, boosted season pass... and $40 expansions for a class, a green/brown new area and a story no one cares about... And in the end: The game has still less features as D3 which is hilarious... Whoever supports that is braindead...
So the rune "words" are just 2 runes always and that's it? And they add more skills/properties like "2%more lucky hit chance for a +13% dmg to frozen upside down skeletons on wednesdays" ?
I got so excited when he said runeword and was immediately disappointed. Sure a TP on a Barb would be nice, but it has to be charged first? So disappointing
The only reason they are banking so hard is that they are making sure that all of the awesome armors / weapons can only be bought real-time, like they intentionally are not putting any badass in-game sets, thus them easily earning a 150M for the cosmetics alone. I can't personally fathom that for a few cosmetics, you can already buy some some games in comparison - even the latest ones without a promo value.
yeah, so much wasted potential, instead of trying to tap into south american old and bizzarre and mysticim cultures like the "tzantza" stuff, they give us this skinny druid mfer with power rangers abilities like wtf is this art direction.....
@@hellzpawn1751 they had to fire the art director... I agree to the certain point with your statement... It started darker and now they have been introducing many things that reminds me of D3 era... wings(that they were not in a mood to add it before)... pets(witch are soo cute to match the darkness tone of the game)... But Nahantu backstory justifies the jungle spirits class and I like it... Somewhat overlaps with druid but totally different gameplay... I see the spiritborn as a Monk
I main Druid, have since S2 I think they're not - Druid has mostly caster abilities and some tiny Melee options From all the footage I see and the skills and all build options in the skill planners this is by far a melee focused character meant to be in the fray to take and deal damage
The no.1 thing that I can't get over is the scaling open world. This causes all enemies to feel like skins of one or another with the same 4-5 open world events. It drops any of the appeal of both arpg and open world rpgs.
Sorc should be able to "align" with an element like the new class can align with a spirit. So all sorc moves would be ice or lightning or fire. I find it so dumb I can't be an all in fire mage or lightning mage etc
@@christsatali9139 how do you go P2W in POE, you can't buy power. You buy conveniences and even if you buy all the stash tabs available, it will only add up to around $50 that is including you buying the quad stashes. Have you even tried POE? Because no one that plays POE for even an hour would call POE P2W, its not even a thing that relates to it. You don't have to like POE due to its extremely complicated skill trees and really big end game grind. But P2W?? That is just baffling.
@@christsatali9139 not p2w its pay for convenience , stash tabs are optional if you want to sell excessive amounts of items. Ive been trading and playing for the last 2 years and havent bought a single stash tab.
I'm actually pretty pumped for this. I jumped back in for season 5 and ended up sticking around to level up and kit out 2 characters. The tormented boss grind for mythics and masterworking your build through pushing the pit is pretty addictive in the endgame. I kitted out a Druid and a Necro and had a blast in season 5. Definetly going to check this out.
Eh, as one of those who fell off the wagon back in S1, there isn't much going to make me come back. They got my money and my friends' money the first time around and it was fun while it lasted, but its hard to find a reason to continue to buy an expansion for content that arguably should be core. This is the Blizzard way and that is just not the direction I don't want to follow anymore.
in their last chance to get their people back, they put a Paid expansion? very smart. Same as NW, 5 last levels and endgame locked behind a 40$ expansion
As a long term fan of the franchise starting from the its roots, this iteration of the game feels unrecognisable of what made the franchise successful. It's a sad aftermath and a shame of what has become of it... or maybe it's just my taste did not adapt.
The upcoming Diablo IV expansion, Vessel of Hatred, priced at $40, raises significant concerns about its value proposition. Blizzard faces a tough dilemma: If they lock key content, like best-in-slot weapons, armor, or critical farming opportunities, behind the paywall, it risks alienating the player base. This could lead to a backlash, with players feeling that the game is becoming "pay-to-win" despite any claims to the contrary. Such a move might push players toward other games, starting a migration to titles perceived as more consumer-friendly. On the other hand, if Vessel of Hatred doesn't offer enough exclusive content, players will struggle to see the value in it. Without meaningful incentives, spending $40 becomes hard to justify, and the expansion risks being perceived as unnecessary or overpriced. Comparing this to Path of Exile, developed by Grinding Gear Games, makes Blizzard’s position even more precarious. Path of Exile offers a fairer playing field, with no charges for core content. Additionally, Grinding Gear Games recently announced that all items bought in Path of Exile will carry over to the upcoming Path of Exile 2. This adds significant long-term value to any money spent in the game and enhances player trust. For many, investing in Path of Exile, even just $10 for stash tabs, seems like a much better deal than spending $40 on a Diablo expansion that may not offer lasting value. In short, Blizzard needs to tread carefully. Offering too little for $40 will make the expansion feel like a poor investment, while locking critical content behind a paywall risks damaging the reputation of the game. With Path of Exile offering a much more consumer-friendly approach, it's hard to see Vessel of Hatred as a wise purchase at this point.
So by listening to everything you said, Basically Blizzard/Activision is “RELAUNCHING” the entire game and charging people who already bought the game, to buy Diablo 4 AGAIN, under the guise of an Expansion….. and to those who don’t actually buy the expansion still get stuck with a Nerfed Re-Launch of the game…. smh
NO... they are selling an Expansion pack that cost 40$... like Diabo2 did in the past... try to play diablo 2 without the LoD expansion... sure you can play... but you will be cut off the expansion new map and new final boss... D4 without Expansion will work the same with a bonus that you will get all new items all new skills and paragons so its already better than what we were used to have with Expansion Packs in the past
I've said for a while now, 'Diablo 4 is a good game, but a bad live service'. It's improved a lot since launch, but it's still very shallow and can be pretty much explored within a week. This is what happens when you design your game as a product first and a game second. Which is why I'm relatively certain that PoE (on PC specifically) probably has higher CCP than D4 and definitely has longer retention during a league/season. Comparatively it feels like PoE2 is designed as a game first, which then gets you to spend money because you're so damn impressed by how good it it and how much of your time it devours and I have no doubt it's going to take a gargantuan bite out of D4's audience in November and then again when it hits 1.0 and is fully f2p.
I'm pretty sure expansions and updates just won't fix the game. The problems that stand out the most are fundamental. How combat functions, how skills work, the skill tree, the passive tree for endgame, gear affixes, crafting systems. The issues extend deep into the core functions of the game. Giving all of these a new coat of paint isn't going to make the vehicle more enjoyable to drive.
I will not be returning. I was one of the idiots who bought the Ultimate Edition (serious buyer's remorse). I never managed to level any of my characters to level 100, mainly because I inevitably would became too bored to continue. I returned for Season 4 which supposedly "saved" the game and found myself bored after only 10 or 11 hours. That is with trying both the Sorcerer and the Necromancer. Neither are classes I played before. I just cannot see myself buying the expansion.
"LaSt ChANcE!" Meanwhile, game has made Blizzard a billion dollars, 150 million purely from cosmetics, with a dedicated playerbase that has an addictive love/hate relationship with the game yet also can't get enough of it. Whoo boy, sure sounds like the game is struggling to me! /Sarcasm.
Diablo 4's and Blizzard's lastest last last last last last last last chance for real this time fr fr last chance fuck Blizzard tho, we aren't pussies so we definitely won't give them another last chance after this last chance right? It's their last chance!
Was a MASSIVE Diablo fan. Force I found your channel b/c of the D3 podcast you did (for over a year? two years?). Waited out for midnight release at Gamestop; Played a lot of Diablo 3; played a TON of D3 Reaper of Souls, was top 200 in Achievements in season 1. I had a strong feeling D4 wouldn't correct the issues from D3; and it seems I was right and also how Blizz management has acted I didn't get D4. Act Man's video on it really didn't shock me at all.
I have to say, as a long time PoE player, recent Last Epoch enjoyer and having played almost all more popular ARPGs throughout the years, D4 (which I started with the current season) is the ideal mix of complexity and simplicity for someone like me, who likes to reach endgame and play it while not aiming at the very highest tiers of it. I don´t have time to sink hundreds of hours into each season, if I can reach some sort of Endgame experience with one or two hours played every other evening within a season it is perfect for me and I guess for a lot of not intensely gaming people like me.
The most vicious thing about this game is that it puts restrictions on you everywhere, forces you to form a team or you are almost impossible to get purple items , forces you to raid keys for bosses, and even the power effect requires a lot of prerequisites and various restrictions.
do the dungeons still have those blatant time waste mechanics like "pick this thing up on one side of the map to put it on a pedestal on the other side"
I tried really hard to like this game, but it just doesn't work for me. An ARPG which doesn't have meaningful progression is like FPS without guns imo. PoE and Last Epoch are better on so many levels.
Sad thing is, PoE 2 beta is in November, VoH comes out in Oct. So, most of these people saying they won't pre-order or buy VoH actually will 😞 Like bugs in a light, won't be able to resist and swipe that card and give Blizz more money for Meh. VoH will pop off on the sales charts and be a "success" regardless of any buyers remorse.
Last chance? Lol. Cmon now Force.. Its well past that. If you choose to keep putting money and time into people who have constantly deceived you in the past, you have only yourself to blame.
Is season 6 starting at the same date as the expansion on oct 8th or later on? Do we start a new season character with a full base campaign to do first then reach expansion content or do we *skip campaign* and cannot do Nahantu content ? How will this work exactly if we want to do a seasonal character and play the Nahantu campaign right of the start (since besides new people, everyone else has already did the base campaign ) ? Great Video BTW!!
The biggest issue for me (someone who played from Diablo 1) is that this is a very lazy development. They just recycle stuff from diablo 1,2 and 3 with very little new added. A new class its ok. This should be priced like 19.99 the most. They just milking old school addicts and new ppl that never playerd diablo 1 or 2.
There are two reasons I’ll continue playing Diablo 4. One, nostalgia. I remember playing Diablo on PlayStation and I was a huge Diablo II fan. I played with friends and family for years. The second reason is time. As an adult professional now, I simply do not have the time to devote to something like PoE.
POE 2 is not launching right after D4 season 6. POE2 is still about a year out all we are getting anytime soon is just beta testing. Most people are not going to be playing a beta test.
Launches into early access on November 15th. For free, for everyone. There’s possibly a few more rounds of beta’s before then, which are random invite only and with the possibility of some form of paid beta access. But as of Nov 15th everyone can play it and they’ve hinted heavily towards there being as much if not more content than ‘certain other arpg’s’.
I haven’t played since season 3 and uninstalled it. Once Vessel of Hatred launches, I will watch a review on it and if not too much interesting content with a better experience, I will keep it uninstalled and move on to PoE2 when that drops.
Definitely playing Diablo. Diablo is the OG of ARPGs and will always have a spot in my gaming hours. However, POE is my main game. I just crossed 7,000 hours of POE this week. Love it.
Lmfao. Love the title but it should say diablo 4s last last last last last final ultimate last no more after this. Or maybe 6-7 more final chances last chance
d4 got me back with the most recent season. The addition of the horde mode and the pit was enough extra endgame content to get me back for most of the season.
I stopped playing D4 after season 2; leveling was a grind for me, and along with the issues with the items, I just didn't have fun playing anymore. I came back to it about 2 or 3 weeks ago, and legit had a good time leveling and doing all the things. Not so much time left in this season, but I am looking forward to the continuation of the story, and the other mechanics they're adding in. Its not its last chance for me, as I remember the nightmare that was D3, but I obviously had issues with it then, and if I do so again, I'll put it down for another break.
D4 numbers are looking incredibly strong and it's no doubt the most popular ARPG on the market. The expansion will do just fine, regardless of if it brings back those who quit at launch. Really excited for PoE 2 too, but people seem to be really torn on it, asking who it's really for. It's going to be really interesting how many people stick around once the initial excitement of launch is over.
Diablo 4 is great. Came back for Season 04 and I’m still playing everyday. I love the way how getting great Items and pushing to the absolute max end game is a rollercoaster of trial and error and finally success. It’s easy, accessible and super hard all at the same time.
i gave D4 a try 9 days ago and can‘t wait to play every day, currently lvl 57, i think it‘s a lot of fun, an i really like the gameplay / atmosphere in it… i guess i‘ll try the expansion for more sotry…
Honestly, my kid poured something into my Xbox literally days before D4 released. It started working again 2 weeks ago miraculously, so who knows what the future holds. I’ve got a lot of games I want to buy before D4.
Diablo 4's "Last Chance" was also said before the game came out.
Great! Be sure to tune in for the next "D4's Last chance"
@@DanteVerde-pt9zcbut now we have a last last chance!
It was the first Diablo game I avoided and have no itch to play.
Well, I also avoided Diablo Immortal, but I don't consider that a "real" Diablo game.
D4 was declared dead by the internet "experts" in August 2023. How it is still around is a miracle. Unfathomable. Could these people not know what they were talking about?
@@cgermanpeople have been saying this since D3, and yet here are! D4 sales prove the IP is not yet dead, but merely evolving. All the old heads still nostalgic about D1 and D2 are finally leaving. Good riddance. Sick of their whining about how the new games are trash.
Man, D4 must be nailing every update since they keep getting last chances every time.
They nailed every update. The state of current D4 is far better than the first season. They address most of the feedback from the players.
@@jameslambertus5820 I agree, it was mostly good. I just think youtubers need to drop the "last chance every two months" narrative. It makes no sense.
@@jameslambertus5820 D4 is too casual friendly and devs turned game into D3.
@@t4m1r4s and what's wrong with that? Not all people want to play a game where you need to open 10 tabs for every session. D4 never market their game as a game for hardcore players like PoE.
D2 is casual friendly also nothing hard except maybe for uber tristram.
@@Thyrrry mostly for click bait or they just following the hate blizzard trend just to look cool.
how can a game have like 10 last chances
it's hyperbole for the typical click bait titles.
Have u ever played destiny?
@miqueljames9 they definitely haven't lol out if the last 5 expansion each one has been better then the last with the most recent one being the highest to date
@@SK-do5rv "Out of the last 5 expansions." Let's see...Shadowkeep was bad to mid...Beyond Light was mid...Witch Queen was good...Lightfall LOOOOOOOL bad...and Final Shape, finally a reliably good one that required Bungie to end a 10 year saga, put everything on the line and now the game is bleeding out.
So no. Most of their recent expansions (and seasons, if we're being honest) have been "make or break." The only reason they haven't ACTUALLY been "make or break" is because many in the community have been too invested to hold Bungie to task.
Glad to see that's been changing.
Did you see their revenue numbers? They are raking in the cash. I still think the game is too simple, too easy, and lacking in content and variety. But some people seem to like it very much. I'd rather play Torchlight Infinite over D4 and that is saying something. Skipping the campaign and running helltides with the same skills for 50 levels just to get to the "good part" of the game is just an awful experience in my eyes.
Probably played more d4 than any other game this year.. it’s not as in depth but it really helped me to get over losing my dad and cat this year. Sometimes hours of brainless grind can be really good.. i’m looking forward to the expansion and new season.
That's how I felt, except I was mourning the death of the diablo series, and instead of playing D4 I was playing Nioh 2
Condolences. I agree while it is far from perfect it is still fun to log in from time to time tackle some infernal hordes or tormented bosses. @nathanmartin455 Thanks for that thoughtless and pointless reply.
@@sullytronThank you for the kind words 💚
@@nathanmartin455oh yea we can all see why you don't like diablo. Comparing Elden ring and Harry Potter. Nice. We don't care if you don't play. It makes the servers less populated ie less lag. Works for me. See ya!
Play Last Epoch, I'm sure you'll enjoy it more
I'm waiting for POE2
We all are brotha
Have they (GGG) said it is free for ALL in November? Last I saw they said it was like previous early access/betas. In past POE situations you had to buy an expensive supporter pack or have had spent a certain amount on MTX in POE to be eligible.
Until they clear this up you may want to leave 11-15 open on your gaming calendar...
Imagine being such a fanboy that you just sit there and roll your thumbs during the golden age of ARPG's when there is such good stuff out right now.
@@Juggernaut76 Iirc you either have to purcahce a supporter pack, or if you have spent a certain total amount already on your account you get access. They did the same thing with 3.0 back in the day.
@@buffydaslaya They just want some attention. These cats are the same asking for carries in trade chat and sharing their mythic drops just because of.
Which last chance are we on? I've lost count.
guys this is their last, last chance.
LMAO so glad Force recognized the silliness almost INSTANTLY.
Yet he still decided to leave a clickbait title...
@@Amarranth It works
Just wait till we get to Diablo IV's FINAL Last Chance.
POE2 will be a godly ARPG
@@ForceGamingYTreminds me of attack on titan final season
Honestly I'm more excited about Path of Exile 2 right now than anything else.
Ah the Treadmill. I'm going to play POE2 casually at my pace. I'm getting too jaded to give Bliz my money at this point.
So, let me get this straight. You're going to play a game from a company KNOWN THROUGHOUT HISTORY as one that flips its own assets in their games to make the game longer... but make it insanely repetitive.... because, you're too "jaded" to play a game that doesn't force you to do that?
Bruh...
@@baconoverlord7982ELI5 = Blizzard greedy. Grinding Gear Games= cares about your time and is free.
I have to admit that it has improved a lot since the launch, but it doesn't matter what they do at this point, on november 15 I will be in poe 2
You could do this crazy thing where you idk... PLAY BOTH?!>?!?!?!?! I know its crazy talk. Gotta take a side and make one game your identity.
You think POE2 will ACTUALLY release in November? It's only 3 years late, We'll see.
I started playing Diablo 4 about a week ago and I gotta admit I’m having a blast so far.
Yea so far 😂
It's great. Maybe not for streamers who no life the game but for me who plays a couple hours a night it's perfect. I've leveled all the classes this season where normally I do 1 or 2. I think the game is fun af and love blasting. But hey keep the game servers unpopulated. Less lag spikes while playing. oh nooo.
@@natel7382 yes please game crashes as im teleporting back in town
give it another week and youll have nothing to do
In 6 months, Force will be like: okay, this is Diablo IVs last last last chance
Don't you know that "last chance" is said by all youtubers/streamers since launch?
I’ve had my fun with D4. Picked up grim dawn a week ago and pretty quickly decided that would be my new game until poe2 and titan quest 2.
If you want to kill quite a few hours I highly recommend Chronicon. It's like Diablo 3 if it was good.
Theres a expansinon comming for grim dawn when its ready lol.
I pre-ordered D4, made a level 100 Rogue, did lots of grinding Helltide/Nightmare dungeons, played season 2, made a level 100 Barb, and then I've never touched the game since. It might be awesome now, but after putting in so much time, I just got bored of it. I'll probably never play it again. Lol.
It's a whole different game now than it was in season 4 even. Next season it's getting another facelift. I recommend you give it another try.
I loved how they were always saying send in your feedback. Apparently crusader/paladin was an overwhelming request. Then they release something out of left field, a baby from a druid and monk.
Yup, idiots at Blizzard got all of the DnD character archetypes EXCEPT Paladin. We got Warrior (Barb), Wizard, Rogue, Druid... buuuttt No holy based class. You done fucked up blizzard.
I think they are moving with lore, as technically paladins were wiped out due to various influences, and crusaders are on the back foot for some odd reason
@@faasnuhind8578 Could easily write lore to bring them back.
@@CaptainMetalwing then they would bring Crusaders due to them being stronger in lore, which I would be fine with, but the playerbase, by and large, was asking for paladins, which were wiped out at the minimum decades prior. But yea, they could just write them back in
@@CaptainMetalwing Yeah but, with everything changing like it has I'm glad they didn't cause there's already a lot to correct still and having a really bad lore reason for a holy class being there would just add fuel to the fire of complaints. I'm sure they will add them within the next year but, it will be when the games identity is more solidified.
I will end up playing it but I don't think they've solved the biggest problems, which imo, are the layers of RNG to extend the "end-game" loop. It isn't fun to brick items with random upgrades on random drops, with random affixes, and random greater affixes. If you brick it you're back to square one, and that feels like Lost Ark without swiping and with fewer avenues, options, and room to progress. Giving you more chances to brick items is just a band-aid solution from Wish.
Problem #2 is balancing. I think they made a huge mistake somewhere along the line where nobody knows how to balance things in this game. Certain builds are overwhelmingly more powerful than everything else (even after PTR balances are implemented), and other builds just feel absolutely terrible. You have such limited choices and even more limited creativity. They didn't want to force people into builds with D3 item sets, but here we are with the same problem. If you're a player who enjoys pushing content and min-maxing, then you're stuck to 1-3 options, and most of the time that's 1 or 2 classes and a lot of the time certain aspects are mandatory as well as affixes. My play style is different then some but not different from everyone, where I typically pick my class based off of my own preferences, and then at some point I'm forced into a specific build to accomplish what I want to during the season. Or I'm forced to reroll in some cases where that class simply isn't capable. The cherry on top is when I feel forced into a build and then don't even enjoy the playstyle.
#3 why are you able to get Mythic Uniques and/or BIS items on day 1 for fast or dedicated players? I understand casual players or people with full time jobs want to be able to obtain them too, and I have no issue with that, but I don't think the issue is the lack of time to get the mythics, I think the issue is there is nothing else to aim for. There's no real stepping stones, no sense of progress, then you just get the best items in the game and now what? Push the pit where there isn't a leaderboard and to get nothing special from it at all? Run the gauntlet where you'll have to completely change your build without the use of a preset to swap between for little to no rewards in a near-dead game mechanic? Bump the World Tier up which isn't even difficult, as shown in the PTR? What happened to that awesome feeling of farming some bosses and after a few days you get that precious drop you've been waiting for to be able to push higher content somewhere else or farm the next boss or push for the last few important levels of your build or... anything? Killing Ubers feels like a chore. Go run some mindless "fetch quests" to farm a single boss that is mildly interesting at best with little to no challenge even for sub-par builds (see #2 for balance issues and remember vanilla D4 Lillith? that was fun and was a challenge). It doesn't feel fun now that the new factor wore off several times over, and it only feels rewarding until a few moments pass when the next question pops into your mind... now what?
I hate to say this, but my retention rate on Diablo Immortal was FAR longer than D4, and I didn't swipe even one time. I feel that at this point in the Diablo franchise it has officially turned into a game that is only meant to earn a few bucks from a moment of passing attention rather than being a game to stick to. One week every season you log in to check some boxes off, hope they buy the battle pass and maybe some cool transmogs that you can't earn anywhere in the game, while the player hopes to get their money's worth before loading up that game that you always go back to.
Diablo 4 isn't a "bad" game, imo, it's just missing a lot and it honestly is still one of, if not, the smoothest ARPGs out there. It has potential, and that's why some of us still hope that it'll course correct, but time is now officially out because PoE2 *will* be that game.
Sincerely, a gamer who places Diablo 2 as my favorite game of all time, during it's time and November 15th there will be a major contender for that place in my heart.
Diablo 4's been pretty darn good for 5 months. If people didnt come back in season 4 they've missed out and probably wont ever come back but when you log on there are a crap load of people playing any time day or night. They say its "too casual". i challenge anyone to not use a guide and clear the highest pit level thats been reached for whatever class they are playing. I promise almost no one will be able to do it without a guide.
There's nothing to gain for doing the highest level of content is the problem meaning the game is casual. D2 had Uber tristram and you could get torches and decent loot but then D4 has a time sink that has no chase loot for that activity other than maybe some lame title.
I personally really like D4 right now. It's perfect as a casual arpg. I don't think the "last chance" thing applies anymore. It's a full game now, either you like it or not.
Eh, what? How is it a full game now but not before? If anything, teh game lasted longer on release than it does in its current iteration where you rush to the end very quickly.
@@zeriel9148 It was technically a full game, but there was literally no endgame. Like nothing. Now there's masterworking, mythic farming, pit levels and hordes. I'm not saying the game is overdosing on content, but now it feels like a complete package from beginning to end. In my opinion of course
It fails even as a casual ARPG. There is still nothing to do.
@@virdixxii8341 There was NMD up to 100. Really, nothing much has changed in that regard. Yes, they give you more item power... but do you really need it? And on release, player power level was such that NMD 100 was about as challenging for most people as the pits are for them now. It's all just been a reskin of the same shit since launch. I feel the complete opposite of you; it's about pacing. You race through all the content much faster now, so I can't fathom how someone feels it is more "complete" now unless they just think having 3 different varieties of the same basic activity is more complete. Arguably, the pacing was much better balanced back in 1.0, it's just that people didn't like the design. Which is fine. But that's the design the game was made around, it's why the game is so imbalanced now and they keep having to patch the progression.
@@Greg3 That's just not true
I'm also happy and surprised Poe is doing that well while not trying to cater to the "mainstream" and "all audiences" but still to the same people who actually enjoy complexity, just doing it way better this time around.
That's why they keep the game free 😂
I finally decided to give D4 a chance 12 days ago. Now I have 252hrs in the game and I preordered vessel of hate ultimate. Safe to say I’m hooked 😭😭😭🤣🤣
Last season Hooked me too. I think i played at least 100h last 2 weeks
That's less than 3 hours a day to do anything other than play including sleep. Gtfo here with all that afk time
You joined at a good time. The game is so much fun now compared to season 1.
Same
As a 52 yr old who’d never played a Diablo game or even an a-rpg before I think Diablo 4 is flipping brilliant. Some of those cut-scenes are simply breathtaking too.
That's because you have zero experience with actually good ARPG games...
Who cares about cut scenes
Good! Glad you enjoyed it.
Good man! I’m having fun too. Don’t listen to these negative idiots who are determined to drag you down because they can’t enjoy something anymore.
it's not as people make it out to be, they're just whiny bitches. - I've never seen a game where people continually try to undermine other people's fun. I hate FF14 but I don't go into every forum and youtube video bitching about how its the worst game ever that I'll never play it again.
They never learned from the D3 mistakes.
They never learned from TBC"s mistakes in WOW, either.
Why? D4 has been sublime since Season 4 and 5. Myself and loads of people have been enjoying the heck out of it. $1bn in sales don't lie, either.
the game is so great it has currently 700 viewers on twitch, while poe is still solid between 5-10k viewers at any time of the day after 1.5 months of the league start 🤣
@@tomieedzsiYeah no one cares, because D4 made 150 million $ only from cosmetics in a year. PoE, while obviously being a pay 2 win game, made only 37,5 million. Conclusion? Casual dads don't watch Twitch, but they still keep the game alive whether you like it or not.
@@piotr3612PoE isn’t pay 2 win
i'm gettin it but for some reason this just feels like a GIANT patch with a new region and some extra story.
It's pretty much it. I have a huge backlog on PC and console so I would rather put that money towards some good audiophile headphones for my PC
That’s what an expansion is lol….
After playing D4 beta, I just bought D2:R and was very happy, PoE2 FTW!
2 Last 2 Chance: Kyovashad Drift - The Last Final Chance
Diablo 4 on its eighth last chance
I've been enjoying the game tbh. Playing casually each season since launch and the game has definitely improved. But of course I am really looking forward to PoE 2 as well.
Last chance? There is nothing wrong with the game. If you don’t like Diablo type games then you never will. D3 has a quarter of D4’s content and we’re still complaining.
And they are now implementing the best systems from D2 and D3, while expanding on the open-world and the new systems.
This game is A LOT better than diablo 3 I.m.o.
Nothing wrong with the game????....dafuq you smoking? This game has been a shit show and yet ONCE AGAIN....they are resetting all of the mechanics..... it's a complete shit show.
@@Francis-of8cwwhat are they implementing from D2? And don't say rune words because this isn't even remotely the same as D2 rune words and this new system is dog shit
Blazing hot take: Diablo 4 is a really fun game
nope.. what u on
There's dozens of us!
People can’t comprehend that someone can enjoy something they don’t 🤷🏾♂️. I don’t like Fefa lol
Nobody is arguing that, even Gollum and that Kong game are fun, never laughed so much in a videogame, but fun does not equal good sometimes.
For 40 mins sure but then it becomes a boring chore.
Started playing D4 again during season 4 and I have had an absolute blast. One of my favorite games at the moment.
Yup and s5 was even better! Less than a month til s6 lets go!!!!
@@bungmonkey2295 Sorry, but everyone who supports that pricing model of Diablo 4 is just stupid. The expansion should be boycotted. An annual fee for shit that should be in seasonal updates. A pay2play game with $25 dollar skins per class, season pass, boosted season pass... and $40 expansions for a class, a green/brown new area and a story no one cares about... And in the end: The game has still less features as D3 which is hilarious... Whoever supports that is braindead...
"Diablo 4's Last Chance"
D4 was my first Diablo. Loved the pre-season, from there on it got stale fast.
Haven't played since and don't intend to any time soon.
You're missing out. You spent the money, don't be silly. It's so much better than it was last year. You obviously still care .....
Thanks for letting us know.
Man Diablo4 is beautiful. Unfortunately the whole season thing doesnt catch me at all.
So the rune "words" are just 2 runes always and that's it? And they add more skills/properties like "2%more lucky hit chance for a +13% dmg to frozen upside down skeletons on wednesdays" ?
I got so excited when he said runeword and was immediately disappointed. Sure a TP on a Barb would be nice, but it has to be charged first? So disappointing
New class, druid
I've been playing the last few seasons, but I'm not buying the expansion. It isn't worth the money.
That runeword system sounds like dogshit
that only diablo i didn't buy the expac in the franchise history. done with this incompetent clown team
A 39 usd - 89 price tag for an expansion and a last chance is a little too much.
Can’t wait, it’s been amazing every season!
good one
The only reason they are banking so hard is that they are making sure that all of the awesome armors / weapons can only be bought real-time, like they intentionally are not putting any badass in-game sets, thus them easily earning a 150M for the cosmetics alone. I can't personally fathom that for a few cosmetics, you can already buy some some games in comparison - even the latest ones without a promo value.
The worst thing about spiritborn is that it geels like druid has no purpose now. They overlap way too much.
yeah, so much wasted potential, instead of trying to tap into south american old and bizzarre and mysticim cultures like the "tzantza" stuff, they give us this skinny druid mfer with power rangers abilities like wtf is this art direction.....
@@hellzpawn1751 they had to fire the art director... I agree to the certain point with your statement... It started darker and now they have been introducing many things that reminds me of D3 era... wings(that they were not in a mood to add it before)... pets(witch are soo cute to match the darkness tone of the game)... But Nahantu backstory justifies the jungle spirits class and I like it... Somewhat overlaps with druid but totally different gameplay... I see the spiritborn as a Monk
I main Druid, have since S2
I think they're not - Druid has mostly caster abilities and some tiny Melee options
From all the footage I see and the skills and all build options in the skill planners this is by far a melee focused character meant to be in the fray to take and deal damage
The no.1 thing that I can't get over is the scaling open world. This causes all enemies to feel like skins of one or another with the same 4-5 open world events. It drops any of the appeal of both arpg and open world rpgs.
I’ll be back when the dlc goes on sale maybe
Sorc should be able to "align" with an element like the new class can align with a spirit. So all sorc moves would be ice or lightning or fire. I find it so dumb I can't be an all in fire mage or lightning mage etc
"Fool me can't get fooled again...." Me and my money are heading for greener pastures with POE2
the thing is , you don't even need to pay anything for POE2, and the tabs carries over, so its just go straight to fun, no last chances required
@@enightc yeah but the game is p2w lol wtf
@@christsatali9139 how do you go P2W in POE, you can't buy power. You buy conveniences and even if you buy all the stash tabs available, it will only add up to around $50 that is including you buying the quad stashes.
Have you even tried POE? Because no one that plays POE for even an hour would call POE P2W, its not even a thing that relates to it.
You don't have to like POE due to its extremely complicated skill trees and really big end game grind. But P2W?? That is just baffling.
@@christsatali9139 not p2w its pay for convenience , stash tabs are optional if you want to sell excessive amounts of items. Ive been trading and playing for the last 2 years and havent bought a single stash tab.
I'm actually pretty pumped for this. I jumped back in for season 5 and ended up sticking around to level up and kit out 2 characters. The tormented boss grind for mythics and masterworking your build through pushing the pit is pretty addictive in the endgame. I kitted out a Druid and a Necro and had a blast in season 5. Definetly going to check this out.
Bro wait til next season when you suddenly don't find any good reason to waste time doing any of those things anymore.
Eh, as one of those who fell off the wagon back in S1, there isn't much going to make me come back. They got my money and my friends' money the first time around and it was fun while it lasted, but its hard to find a reason to continue to buy an expansion for content that arguably should be core. This is the Blizzard way and that is just not the direction I don't want to follow anymore.
I mean.. your loss... the game isn't nearly the same as it was in season 1 and it's getting far more different this next season.
in their last chance to get their people back, they put a Paid expansion? very smart. Same as NW, 5 last levels and endgame locked behind a 40$ expansion
I’ve found that over my life I’ve always enjoyed quality over quantity. Needless to say, I’ll be waiting for PoE 2 and skipping Diablo 4’s expansion.
If i wanted to play an mmo rpg with dungeons, I'd go play one of thousands already made.
They failed again
lets be real, Diablo as a franchise has evolved THE LEAST over the past 20+ yrs
Graphics evolved and gameplay devolved lol
D2 players want to keep playing D2 and they're REALLY loud
You can only evolve so much without completely alienating them
As a long term fan of the franchise starting from the its roots, this iteration of the game feels unrecognisable of what made the franchise successful. It's a sad aftermath and a shame of what has become of it... or maybe it's just my taste did not adapt.
1:10 No, I'm sick of Blizzard destroying all the fun builds after you've invested many hours creating them. I'm done for good.
If they nerf lightning spear sorc I am DONE
The upcoming Diablo IV expansion, Vessel of Hatred, priced at $40, raises significant concerns about its value proposition. Blizzard faces a tough dilemma: If they lock key content, like best-in-slot weapons, armor, or critical farming opportunities, behind the paywall, it risks alienating the player base. This could lead to a backlash, with players feeling that the game is becoming "pay-to-win" despite any claims to the contrary. Such a move might push players toward other games, starting a migration to titles perceived as more consumer-friendly.
On the other hand, if Vessel of Hatred doesn't offer enough exclusive content, players will struggle to see the value in it. Without meaningful incentives, spending $40 becomes hard to justify, and the expansion risks being perceived as unnecessary or overpriced.
Comparing this to Path of Exile, developed by Grinding Gear Games, makes Blizzard’s position even more precarious. Path of Exile offers a fairer playing field, with no charges for core content. Additionally, Grinding Gear Games recently announced that all items bought in Path of Exile will carry over to the upcoming Path of Exile 2. This adds significant long-term value to any money spent in the game and enhances player trust. For many, investing in Path of Exile, even just $10 for stash tabs, seems like a much better deal than spending $40 on a Diablo expansion that may not offer lasting value.
In short, Blizzard needs to tread carefully. Offering too little for $40 will make the expansion feel like a poor investment, while locking critical content behind a paywall risks damaging the reputation of the game. With Path of Exile offering a much more consumer-friendly approach, it's hard to see Vessel of Hatred as a wise purchase at this point.
So by listening to everything you said, Basically Blizzard/Activision is “RELAUNCHING” the entire game and charging people who already bought the game, to buy Diablo 4 AGAIN, under the guise of an Expansion….. and to those who don’t actually buy the expansion still get stuck with a Nerfed Re-Launch of the game…. smh
NO... they are selling an Expansion pack that cost 40$... like Diabo2 did in the past... try to play diablo 2 without the LoD expansion... sure you can play... but you will be cut off the expansion new map and new final boss... D4 without Expansion will work the same with a bonus that you will get all new items all new skills and paragons so its already better than what we were used to have with Expansion Packs in the past
@@pedaleouexcept d2 expansion gave you all the content, no season pass or cash shop.
No, that's.. not the case at all and a 30 second search on any browser would tell you that.
I remember the time Force, when you were advertising the Diablo 3 PvP mode....how time flies
They just cash in on the fomo and 4 weeks later game is dead ...again
I've said for a while now, 'Diablo 4 is a good game, but a bad live service'. It's improved a lot since launch, but it's still very shallow and can be pretty much explored within a week. This is what happens when you design your game as a product first and a game second. Which is why I'm relatively certain that PoE (on PC specifically) probably has higher CCP than D4 and definitely has longer retention during a league/season.
Comparatively it feels like PoE2 is designed as a game first, which then gets you to spend money because you're so damn impressed by how good it it and how much of your time it devours and I have no doubt it's going to take a gargantuan bite out of D4's audience in November and then again when it hits 1.0 and is fully f2p.
I'm pretty sure expansions and updates just won't fix the game. The problems that stand out the most are fundamental. How combat functions, how skills work, the skill tree, the passive tree for endgame, gear affixes, crafting systems. The issues extend deep into the core functions of the game. Giving all of these a new coat of paint isn't going to make the vehicle more enjoyable to drive.
Yep, it's all bad foundations, no matter how much they pile onto it, it will never fix what the game is standing on.
They even “fixed” the itemization and it’s still garbage😂 people just refuse to let it die because they’ve invested time and money into it.
I've been enjoying diablo iv...
They win me back if expansion is free for people that paid for early access for D4. Till then, they aren’t getting my money.
hurr durr.
I will not be returning. I was one of the idiots who bought the Ultimate Edition (serious buyer's remorse). I never managed to level any of my characters to level 100, mainly because I inevitably would became too bored to continue.
I returned for Season 4 which supposedly "saved" the game and found myself bored after only 10 or 11 hours. That is with trying both the Sorcerer and the Necromancer. Neither are classes I played before.
I just cannot see myself buying the expansion.
They took Runewords and then made them not Runewords.
"LaSt ChANcE!" Meanwhile, game has made Blizzard a billion dollars, 150 million purely from cosmetics, with a dedicated playerbase that has an addictive love/hate relationship with the game yet also can't get enough of it. Whoo boy, sure sounds like the game is struggling to me! /Sarcasm.
No paladin/crusader no buy
Really that's all it would take😂😂
Spirit born is gonna be fun to play can’t relate
Not paying full price for DLC, fuck them and their greed. They could charge 10-15 bucks and not lose anything.
Nonsense, d4 is doing great.
wtf..????
hahhaah
They should rename game from D4 to D4-Last chance
"D4 The Cash Shop Strikes Back"
Diablo 4's and Blizzard's lastest last last last last last last last chance for real this time fr fr last chance fuck Blizzard tho, we aren't pussies so we definitely won't give them another last chance after this last chance right? It's their last chance!
Was a MASSIVE Diablo fan. Force I found your channel b/c of the D3 podcast you did (for over a year? two years?). Waited out for midnight release at Gamestop; Played a lot of Diablo 3; played a TON of D3 Reaper of Souls, was top 200 in Achievements in season 1.
I had a strong feeling D4 wouldn't correct the issues from D3; and it seems I was right and also how Blizz management has acted I didn't get D4. Act Man's video on it really didn't shock me at all.
Lmao, think I've seen this "Last chance" a couple of times now 😂
$40 dollars when this should of been in the game hard pass.
hard nope, never buying anything diablo related anymore.
I have to say, as a long time PoE player, recent Last Epoch enjoyer and having played almost all more popular ARPGs throughout the years, D4 (which I started with the current season) is the ideal mix of complexity and simplicity for someone like me, who likes to reach endgame and play it while not aiming at the very highest tiers of it. I don´t have time to sink hundreds of hours into each season, if I can reach some sort of Endgame experience with one or two hours played every other evening within a season it is perfect for me and I guess for a lot of not intensely gaming people like me.
“D4bad” is a forever status. There is no coming back from that.
The most vicious thing about this game is that it puts restrictions on you everywhere, forces you to form a team or you are almost impossible to get purple items , forces you to raid keys for bosses, and even the power effect requires a lot of prerequisites and various restrictions.
Blizzard fans are pathetic they have been giving "last chances" for years now. You guys are beyond redemption and deserve no respect
do the dungeons still have those blatant time waste mechanics like "pick this thing up on one side of the map to put it on a pedestal on the other side"
I tried really hard to like this game, but it just doesn't work for me. An ARPG which doesn't have meaningful progression is like FPS without guns imo. PoE and Last Epoch are better on so many levels.
Sad thing is, PoE 2 beta is in November, VoH comes out in Oct. So, most of these people saying they won't pre-order or buy VoH actually will 😞 Like bugs in a light, won't be able to resist and swipe that card and give Blizz more money for Meh. VoH will pop off on the sales charts and be a "success" regardless of any buyers remorse.
Last chance? Lol. Cmon now Force.. Its well past that. If you choose to keep putting money and time into people who have constantly deceived you in the past, you have only yourself to blame.
Is season 6 starting at the same date as the expansion on oct 8th or later on? Do we start a new season character with a full base campaign to do first then reach expansion content or do we *skip campaign* and cannot do Nahantu content ? How will this work exactly if we want to do a seasonal character and play the Nahantu campaign right of the start (since besides new people, everyone else has already did the base campaign ) ? Great Video BTW!!
The biggest issue for me (someone who played from Diablo 1) is that this is a very lazy development. They just recycle stuff from diablo 1,2 and 3 with very little new added. A new class its ok. This should be priced like 19.99 the most. They just milking old school addicts and new ppl that never playerd diablo 1 or 2.
This is their first last chance before the second chance that becomes the third last chance lasted lasterest
There are two reasons I’ll continue playing Diablo 4. One, nostalgia. I remember playing Diablo on PlayStation and I was a huge Diablo II fan. I played with friends and family for years. The second reason is time. As an adult professional now, I simply do not have the time to devote to something like PoE.
Bruh, it seams that any game comes out and in a few months it is -"XYZ games Last Chance"
I enjoy giving GGG my money.
POE 2 is not launching right after D4 season 6. POE2 is still about a year out all we are getting anytime soon is just beta testing. Most people are not going to be playing a beta test.
Launches into early access on November 15th. For free, for everyone. There’s possibly a few more rounds of beta’s before then, which are random invite only and with the possibility of some form of paid beta access. But as of Nov 15th everyone can play it and they’ve hinted heavily towards there being as much if not more content than ‘certain other arpg’s’.
I haven’t played since season 3 and uninstalled it. Once Vessel of Hatred launches, I will watch a review on it and if not too much interesting content with a better experience, I will keep it uninstalled and move on to PoE2 when that drops.
Definitely playing Diablo. Diablo is the OG of ARPGs and will always have a spot in my gaming hours. However, POE is my main game. I just crossed 7,000 hours of POE this week. Love it.
Lmfao. Love the title but it should say diablo 4s last last last last last final ultimate last no more after this. Or maybe 6-7 more final chances last chance
d4 got me back with the most recent season. The addition of the horde mode and the pit was enough extra endgame content to get me back for most of the season.
I stopped playing D4 after season 2; leveling was a grind for me, and along with the issues with the items, I just didn't have fun playing anymore. I came back to it about 2 or 3 weeks ago, and legit had a good time leveling and doing all the things. Not so much time left in this season, but I am looking forward to the continuation of the story, and the other mechanics they're adding in.
Its not its last chance for me, as I remember the nightmare that was D3, but I obviously had issues with it then, and if I do so again, I'll put it down for another break.
So poe isn't a grind? Like at all???
@@mikemarks6136 never played that.
D4 numbers are looking incredibly strong and it's no doubt the most popular ARPG on the market. The expansion will do just fine, regardless of if it brings back those who quit at launch.
Really excited for PoE 2 too, but people seem to be really torn on it, asking who it's really for. It's going to be really interesting how many people stick around once the initial excitement of launch is over.
Have the expansion quest/campaign length been revealed/leaked yet?
Diablo 4 is great. Came back for Season 04 and I’m still playing everyday. I love the way how getting great Items and pushing to the absolute max end game is a rollercoaster of trial and error and finally success. It’s easy, accessible and super hard all at the same time.
How much do they pay you?
i gave D4 a try 9 days ago and can‘t wait to play every day, currently lvl 57, i think it‘s a lot of fun, an i really like the gameplay / atmosphere in it… i guess i‘ll try the expansion for more sotry…
Honestly, my kid poured something into my Xbox literally days before D4 released. It started working again 2 weeks ago miraculously, so who knows what the future holds. I’ve got a lot of games I want to buy before D4.