Which Smash Characters Have Canonically DIED?
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UM- B-b-b-but sora actually- (paragraph)
Okay, I'll leave my paragraph at the door...
We don’t talk about KH lore it will be longer than most College Essays
Bro Kirby lore is less complex
Real
Not really, he straight up died twice now actually
Sora died and got revived so many times that he straight-up doesn’t understand the concept of death and he had to have it explained to him in KH3.
By having a literal cyclone of heartless and nobodies and the Things from bbs kill Off all of His Friends and then himself
Ok this is super embarrassing for him that this this stupid kid with a comically oversized key who has dies many times can’t understand death
"Oh, please. --Church-- (Sora) has been revived more times than Jean Grey."
No no, he was brought back to his human form thanks to Kairi, not Roxas.
Mixed up the names, thanks for clarifying!
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@@Themoo_atcowsgive the guy a break
@@christhenerdyderg3916 well, he said it was riku or roxas that brought Sora back but she is
1. A girl
2. Looks nothing like riku or roxas
3. If he confused them because of Rikku from FFX-2 then that’s an even bigger fail.
There are only two characters that even resemble kairi. That being Namine and… uh… …what’s her name?
Anyways, the point is, Riku and Roxas look nothing like Kairi and Roxas wasn’t even in KH1
@@Themoo_atcows Xion. And yeah, that's true. Of course, he cheated death in 3 as well.
The plot twist 18 year old me in 2011 playing Xenoblade being dead the whole time was wild. Also Pyra and Mythra at the end of xc2 was tear inducing
1’s plot twist was so surprising. I could’ve never seen it coming
If you thought that ending was sad, then I advise you don’t see the ending of Kingdom Hearts 358/2 days.
I rarely ever cry and I held back tears watching it…
@@Buffbuffrules already played it. Yeah that one is bad too fighting Xion
Honestly both scenes are sad, just imo I think that Xion’s death is sadder as Roxas had to do it and you play as Roxas, so it’s basically making you do it, and then the scene after is heartbreaking too. I know a lot of people find “Xion who else will I have ice cream with?” funny, but if you think about it to Roxas eating ice cream was being friends, so it’s like he was really saying “Xion, who else will I be friends with?” And that’s really heartbreaking. I wish they worded that one sentence better.
Cloud died between FF DOC and the scene set 495 years later with Red XIII/Nadaki.
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Agent 3 has not died canonically speaking in Splatoon. (in the newest game agent 3 leads the squid beak platoon) in Splatoon 2 Agent 3 is taken over by a mind control thing that you have to fight. The only "death" that Agent 3 gets is the inner Agent 3 battle in Splatoon 2 DLC.
So technically Agent 3 has died in Agent 8's head. :P
Fates is stated to be in the far past of the awakening timeline, there's even hoshidan's still alive in fe echoes, plus, corrin died in the one dlc storyline in fates
02:48 for Megaman there's a "theory" that he's still alive but as Quint
Ridley doesn't actually die, his cells only regenerate in between games
Chronologically, after Super Metroid he is DEAD dead. He is cloned in Other M from DNA extracted from Samus' suit, and that clone's corpse is reanimated by the X parasite in Fusion
Ridley dies in Super Metroid. Even if he didn't get killed by Samus, the planet blew up after Mother Brain was killed, consequently blowing up his remains
10:04 That looks so brutal. Like that one Stage Fatality in Mortal Kombat 2011.😱🔥💀
A small addition that was probably overlooked, Joker in Persona 5 although I'm unsure wether or not this counts similiar to Mario dying to a Goomba.
In Persona 5 there is a bad ending at a certain date where, if a dialouge sequence is answered with wrong answers, Joker gets murdered.
To go into a bit more detail, while he is in police custody after the fifth dungeon of the game, Joker has to convince the prosecutor interviewing him to assist him with a plan to escape his imminent death. If the player answers with the correct dialogue options in the interaction they will continue the game as intended with Joker faking his death by his assassin killing a cognitive version. However, if the players chooses the wrong dialogue the plan fails and Joker actually gets shot in the head and the player has to load his last safe. I'd say that counts towards dying in an alternative universe. Yet in a weird way, I guess it's no different than Mario dying from a Goomba.
It's just a gameover in the end.
Also sixth palace, not fifth.
@@mrkicks7817Eh, the credits still roll, so I’d consider it a bad ending.
Also technically Morgana dies in another bad ending if you want to count him with joker
Joker is also dead in the end of Persona 2 IS
I don’t think he was counting bad endings because that would also mean Olimar died as well
As a Metroid Fan, I know this timeline like the back of my hand.
Ridley got mortally wounded in Metroid 1, but got cybernettically enhanced for Metroid Prime 1, stayed that way throughout the entire Metroid Prime series. Ridley's super slow healing factor allows him to lose robotic pieces by the time of Metroid 2. Then he is fully healed by the time of Super Metroid, in which he dies, for real this time, he blows up. Then, in Metroid Other M, Ridley is cloned, but the clone is feral and unintelligent, unlike Ridley. The clone is frozen to death. Then the clone is taken over by an X parasite in Metroid Fusion, which is also blown up. Ridley never appears again.
didn't nintendo decanonize prime 1-3?
Technically speaking we don’t know whether BotW/TotK’s Ganondorf is a “new” Ganondorf, or is simply the old Ganondorf resurrected (again). TotK’s plot is intentionally written to be so vague that there is no correct answer, to the immense displeasure of everyone who tries to understand Zelda lore.
Put very simply for gandorf he's dead The version in smash is from ankarina of time and that version of him is the same guy throughout almost all of his appearances. in the adult era he's killed in the child era he's killed in the fallen reality he's killed and revived several times.
Snake should be in the unknown fate category, as he's terminally ill at the end of MGS4 and doesn't appear in MGRR.
Kazuya died when Heihachi threw him into a volcano, but his body was recovered and brought back to life
Why are you not talking about Fire Emblem Engage? I feel like that game actually answers a lot of the Fire Emblem death questions.
While most instances of this ability outside of cutscenes aren't canon, I would put Byleth either in Cheated Death, died in Alternate, or both. Died in alternate would be for Three Hopes where Byleth died in every route unless Shez does the secret end to one particular mission in each which is due to the special mission you get at the end for saving Byleth, likely the canon option but Byleth does die any other time in the game. If just Three Houses is included... The first Divine Pulse when Byleth literally gets an Axe to the back in my opinion is a great example of cheating death. Even Sothis called Byleth stupid for that.
Snake doesn't die at the end of MGS4 tho? He fails to kill himself, talks to Big Boss for an hour, and then we're just left with an epilogue basically saying that he'll live out his remaining time as a normal person. He's gonna die in a matter of months, yeah, but he hasn't canonically died *in* in the games.
If I remember correctly, Raiden alludes to his death in MGR.
Ridley is already canonically dead. Which is why he’s not in dread. He died a long time ago. Dark samus is dead too.
I would disagree with your placement of Mewtwo, since lore-wise, there is only one. I'd also argue that Pikachu and Jigglypuff are both from the anime. In fact, I think Jigglypuff is confirmed as the anime version, since doesn't Jigglypuff have the mic/sharpy? I'd also argue that Lucario is the one specifically from Lucario and the Mystery of Mew.
Bayonetta is coming back. It’s just how it is, the ending outright states she’s fine and we got a bunch of material from kamiya and the company basically saying she came back to earth and had her own viola
There's actually a photo that turns up on Viola's dartboard after clearing the main story, showing Bayonetta-Viola at the Gates of Hell with a certain black-haired woman in the back. So...yeah.
I dont know most of the smash characters and the franchise, but my pick is sonic. Literitly he did die
Demiis DEMIIS WHAT DO YOU MEAN DEMIIS ITS PROUNOUCED DE-MIZE
Olimar literally dies and is brought back as leafling.
In Pikmin 4, which is an alternate timeline. And even then, you can make the argument that he didn't really die die.
@@LittleAl016 Pikmin 1 bad ending is what pikmin 4's leaflings are based on. Also, the Onion only sucked olimar truely up after he fucking died of oxygen due to not being able to escape the planet after the 30 days of his life support are over. So if anything, Olimar would be in cheating death. It isn't clear if Pikmin 4 is actually a retcon, but we do know for sure that it takes places between pikmin 2 and 3, considering the pikmin 2 treasure log mentions and also pikmin 3's yet to be happening food crisis.
@@Pikachu_Gamer123 There's conflicting information in regards to the game put out by developers. Maybe it'll be cleared up in Pikmin 5. Who knows?
@@LittleAl016 For example, olimar does call the rock pikmin in 3 as "new pikmin", but that could be chalked up as a confusion, due to pikmin 3's and pikmin 4's rocks looking different when it comes to shade. 3's are much darker than 4's
@@Pikachu_Gamer123Pikmin 4 would be before 2 though since the golden pikpik carrot shipment hadn’t happened yet
Mario has canonically died in Super Paper Mario, along with Bowser, Peach, and Luigi, all being killed by Dimentio just before Chapter 8
That's Paper Mario, not the real Mario. Same with the other guys
@@mitchellbrown4454 wait, they're different guys?
@@thetruebiggestdon yep
"Demees" spelled Demise... did the creators just change the pronunciation of the word for the name, or do you just say Demise wrong? .-.
Ever played fire emblem engage?
One funny thing about Steve and Alex is that both of them die and respawn several times in the CGI trailers that promote new updates for the game, it's probably the closest we'll get to any type of canonical death and cheating death scenario for both of them
And I guess the Minecraft Zombie is undead, I don't know where that would even put him
I feel like that would be the 'cheated death' category.
Something I wonder, the zombies have Steve's clothing and we know Steve dies a lot in the cgi trailers
Are the zombies in minecraft Steve's remains?
Also there is the achievement for using a totem called "postmortal" so yes, very much in the cheated death category
IIRC, Minecraft spinoffs tend to give the characters only one life canonically. The exception was in one of Story Mode's dimensions, specifically the minigame server-based one in Season 1 Episode 8. There, Jesse dies and is respawned in a disqualified section.
The respawn anchor literally exists
Corrin goes into the “Died in an alternate universe” tier.
Fates had a series of DLC levels focusing on the child units after all their parents died, including Corrin.
Ans so did ness, it has to do with a theory (ITS NOT SANS IS NESS)
I hate that DLC it's so weird and makes no sense at all, I just like the Close counter
Technically Chrom too.
Corrin also kinda dies in the Birthright/Conquest route before the final maps, but he just chats with the characters that have previously died and they tell him to wake up, which actually works.
@@NosretepI mean, he died in Lucina's timeline
-Olimar died twice. Once he was revived, the other was in an alternative timeline.
-Mother 3 has an ambiguous ending where the world ends, but what happens to the characters is unknown.
yea i feel like pikmin 1's bad ending gets to count as an alt timeline because the game "ends" at that point.
Small note: While Mario, Luigi and Peach never actually died they did all get sent to the afterlife in Super Paper Mario.
Also I think Bowser Jr might've been caught in the same black hole as his dad in Galaxy 1 but it is never directly shown. So he potentially died once.
Those r like books
I think they died, it's just that they died "before their time" and were thus allowed back to the world of the living by Queen Jaydes. Dimentio didn't use a teleport effect on us, he straight up blew us up. They kind of dance around it, but I think you can say the SPM party died.
Doesn’t Domino or whatever his name is actually kill them though?
Shouldn't they turn into Darklings then? Or a Nimbi in Peach's case? Qeen Jaydees tells Mario and Luigi that them being in the Underwhere is a mistake and only those two get sent back by her, whereas Bowser and Peach leave later the same way the leave every chapter. Would be weird that they could just do that if they were actually dead.
Also Dimentio uses the same explosion attack on himself and Luigi at the end of the game and they clearly don't die there.
Dimentio is a master of trickery, using his explosion to mask teleportation is plausible and again the game reinforces that idea later.
Not sure where the SPM stuff falls in the category of "dead" vs "not dead" but I'm pretty sure the Paper games take place in a separate world anyways, so it doesn't really factor in for the versions of the characters in Smash.
You forgot to include Joker from Persona 5.
There is an alternate path you can go down that actually DOES result in Joker dying for real. If you choose to sell out the other Thieves to Sae, their plan is never executed, and Akechi kills the REAL Joker.
Not to mention when the PTs basically get written out of reality can technically be considered a death
@TheKutiek68 if you fail the 3rd Royal semester Joker gets put to sleep forever and forgotten by the world
Bruh, no Olimar?
Okay, as a Pikmin fan, Olimar has died.
And no i'm not talking about Pikmin 1 bad ending, i mean that in Pikmin 4 the fact that he's a leafling is a crutial plot point and basically confirm us that he died, lived as a plant zombie for a month, and then got cured.
That’s… not death…
@@foggy8298 When his life support system ran out of time, he litetally couldn't breath and died. He has mentioned it multiple times, the pikmin planet (PNF-404) has so much oxygen that it is basically a lethal poison.
Unless Olimar has strong enough lungs to hold his breath for a month, he was waaaay dead.
That's why the pikmin dragged him into the onion after his death, they knew that he died and that turning him into a leafling was a form of resurrection for their captain.
As Captain Olimar Himself, I Must Also Point Out The Bad Ending Of Pikmin One, Despite It Not Being Canon
@@ZombieChicken1310 yes but Pikmin 4 retconned the series… where being turned into a leafling doesn’t kill you in any way and is easily curable using glow sap
And even in Pikmin 1, that’s a non canon bad ending…
And even if it was canon, that’s still not death? He was trying to escape, crashed, and the Pikmin turned him into a Pikmin to save his life…
@@foggy8298 Pikmin 4 being a retcon doesn't mean that the leaflings suddenly stop being corpses tho.
Sure, glow sap cures the leaves, but even the game itself questions how exactly this brings the person back to his former self, considering that... you know, a body parasitically controlled by plant life is clinically dead.
Being turned into a leafling and then getting cured is like dying, turning into a zombie and then getting cured from the zombieficaton. Sure, you are no longer dead, but you used to be.
The process of leaf...ication i guess, and then getting cured is that, death and resurrection.
Olimar belongs to the cheated death tier i guess.
Teeny tiny correction
There is only one 'clone' of Ridley.
The Metroid Prime games take place before Metroid 2 Samus Returns. Ridley canonically has the ability to regenerate his body as long as he is 1: alive and 2: able to consume sustenance. After the events of Metroid Zero Mission, Ridley is partially rebuilt as Meta Ridley to continue fighting until his body can regrow which we see is nearly completed at the end of Samus Returns.
After his death in Super, Ridley is cloned on the bottle ship via DNA left over on Samus' suit before being killed again and the corpse of the dead clone is taken to the BSL research station where it is mimicked by the X. The Clone on the bottle ship is an actual Clone while the X copy on the BSL is another species entirely replicating the clone.
And of course Ridley doesn't show up at all in Dread.
This doesn't really change anything in the video as Ridley is definitely dead (so far) but it was just a minor inaccuracy.
It may also be worth noting that the X parasites steal the memories and knowledge of the creatures they mimic.
With the combined facts that they mimicked a clone instead of Ridley himself, and that the X on that station were eradicated, it doesn’t really seem possible for his mind to have been preserved by that process. Still, I would say there’s at least a very small chance that his mind lives on somehow.
(IIRC X in Dread were effectively a separate tribe, after hitching a ride with the Chozo to another planet)
Goodness, I love hearing people explain Metroid lore because it always sounds like deranged ramblings in the best way
The Metroid vaccine basically allowed Samus cheat death.
@@gytrash6167yea but close to death isn't dead.
Small mistake but “explains the body of ridly and the polt of 3 Metroid games”
Umm, two corrections:
- Toon Link canonically died. The Toon Link from Spirit Tracks is a different character altogether.
- Robin dies as a boss in the Awakening DLC.
If bad ending counted as alternate timelines Inklings as a species are destroyed in the bad ending of Splatoon 2’s dlc and 3’s story mode
Splatoon 3 we have no idea if any Splatarians die, Splatoon 2 Octo Expansion yeah those inklings are dead
To define whether Inklings die, you'd have to define death. Sure their bodies explode when they get "splatted", but they can make new bodies from ink. You can even see their little ghosts fly off.
So is "death" the destruction of the body? Or when the soul moves on to whatever afterlife is canon in that world? *nods philosophically*
*XENOBLADE SPOILERS*
It's become a tradition for Xenoblade protagonists to die at some point in all of the mainline games.
Shulk spends pretty much 80% of Xenoblade 1 as a high functioning zombie.
Rex is stabbed through the heart and basically put on life support with half of Pyra/Mythra's core crystal for the rest of the game at the end of chapter 1 of Xenoblade 2.
Noah has died countless times already by the time you play as him in Xenoblade 3 due to Aionios basically being a massive team death match server complete with in-universe respawn mechanics.
Shulk and Rex also technically die temporarily again at the end Future Redeemed to essentially keep Aionios alive long enough so that Noah can destroy it properly later but it's made explicitly clear that they'll be revived when Aionios is destroyed.
"massive team death match server complete with in-universe respawn mechanics"
Combine that with the interpretation of Aionios as a simulated reality, and it basically just sounds like an video game isekai without permadeath.
... Wait, so that means that Xenoblade has been a mech anime, borderline a magical girl anime, and an isekai anime. Which anime genre will Xenoblade 4 be then?
Where’s Byleth?
In FE Three Hopes, which is set in an alternate timeline of FE Three Houses where you play as a mercenary Byleth was destined to kill before the events of 3H, you have the option to kill Byleth, which locks you away from the true ending
Since Joker wasn't included, I guess bad/un-golden endings weren't considered. Well, outside of Zelda's Hero Defeated timeline.
"True Ending"
Only on one of the routes. The other two don't really change all that much.
Even in Three Houses, Byleth canonically dies at the end of Crimson Flower then gets revived using the crest stone lodged in their heart and cheats death in the other timelines at the start of the game using divine pulse. Byleth didn’t get even a passing mention for their deaths yet they would be one of the easiest to find out about.
I was going to mention Byleth as well but because they're a stillborn, their mother dies to bring them back to life
Few fixes I made
young link does canonically die. We find his ghost in twilight princess and defeated timeline also would mean that link is killed in the final battle of OoT which you can technically recreate in the game.
Lucas is most likely dead. It’s heavily implied that everyone dies at the end of mother 3 with the final scene taking place in the afterlife. Although this “technically” isn’t outright confirmed.
Entire Mario cast (except Rosalina) has cheated death with the black hole in Mario Galaxy 1 literally consuming everything requiring the Lumas to recreate it.
Olimar cheats death, basically the plot of pikmin 4 lol
Byleth cheats death a few times, they have canonical rewind powers that they use in a cutscene early on where the did die.
Alternate universe Kirby dies at the end of star allies. Well void termina dies and resurrects to become a new world’s Kirby
Oh and since rob is a real life entity you can just snap its head off or wait until it is unable to function
Olimar don't really cheat death, he was dead that's even why he still has his memories and a bit of his mind unlike all the other leaflings, he's even the only Pikmin character who canonically died (with maybe the sage leaf lol)
Void Termina being implied to be reincarnated as a Kirby is a mistranslation
A bit late, but also the timeskip in FE3H happens because Byleth dies and gets brought back to life through the power of the Progenitor God, which is also why Nemesis got brought back, he just had to have his seal broken first.
theres no confirmed ending to mother 3. it's been intentionally left ambiguous
@@mikubrot my dude did you even read the actual comment or did you just read mother 3 and reply trying to seem smart? I literally acknowledge that it’s is ambiguous, I just said one of the interpretations that’s commonly used is that they all died
Who pronounces the word demise as “de-meese”
I do it for jokes like "Dededemise"
But otherwise yeah idk
A joke.
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Someone who played the game before they fully knew how to read, and never broke the habit of pronouncing it wrong. I still can't seem to stop pronouncing "Ordon" and "Lanayru" as "Oradon" and "Lanaru", even though Ordon is missing an A and Lanayru has a Y. Demise is actual word, though, I don't know how you can go your whole life without fixing that.
Rosalina says that the universe keeps being reborn in similar configurations so basically any Mario game you may be playing as a Mario from a past or future universe.
you forgot to mention the fact that mario, luigi, peach and bowser all die in the events of super paper mario, sending them to the underwhere (or the overthere, in peach's case) which are the mario universe equivalents of hell and heaven. there's obviously contension on whether or not the paper mario games are canon or not, but i think it would've still been worth bringing up as an example of the mario characters cheating death.
Pretty sure mario and paper mario are different beings considering they meet in mario and luigi paper jam
paper mario 64 is referenced as having occured in other games, like superstar saga and some of the mario party games
@@ven9562 technically those are just story beats that also correlate to regular Mario's world. For example, the Star Rod exists in both PM and normal Mario, but MP8 using it would make zero sense if Paper Mario also happened, given how Bowser flat out won with it in PM64.
Actually, it's heavily implied that Dimentio only pretended to kill them and actually just sent them to the underwhere/overthere using his standard method of dimensional travel. This can be inferred from how Mario and friends don't turn into shades as well as from some of Jaydes' dialogue.
You have to remember that Dimentio was orchestrating his power grab the entire time. Actually killing them, especially Luigi, would have been pretty counter productive.
A better case a blackhole consumed them all in galaxy
Sonic be like:
- "Not only I came back to life, I erased my death from the timeline."
This list is still incomplete because you forgot Kazuya.
According to Tekken lore, Kazuya nearly dies at the age of 5 because Heihachi, his dad, throws him off a cliff, but survives because of the Devil Gene.
In Tekken 2 after Kazuya threw Heihachi off a cliff, Heihachi comes back to return the favor by throwing Kazuya INTO AN ACTIVE VOLCANO, KILLING KAZUYA!!
Soon after that, a company known as G Corporation manages to recover Kazuya's body... somehow... and try to bring him back from the dead.
Nearly 20 years later, Kazuya is fully revived and is ready to tear shit up once again and eventually pays Heihachi back by throwing his ass into another volcano, permanently killing Heihachi.
Keyword nearly. Kazuya didn't actually die at the end of T2. He was kept alive due to his devil gene (just like how he survived the cliff as a kid). G Corp recovered his body and experimented on it but didn't actually "revive" him
@@gv82089 Uhh no, it directly states in Tekken 4 that he was brought BACK to life by G Corporation. Even on his wiki page, it also states that G Corporation restored him back to life.
@@gv82089 Nope Kazuya did die in Tekken 2, he was just reserrected and piece together in the events of Tekken 3 - 4 due to G-Corp. Kinda like Frieza in the movie Dragon Ball Resurrection of F
"Permanently killing Heihachi" Just you wait. Bro is probably in hell training like Stinkmeaner plotting his return.
@invisanon Nah, bro. If you listened to what Harada had to say about Heihachi's status during the waiting period for the release of Tekken 8, he says IN ENGLISH, Heihachi is completely dead." I shit you not. If he says Heihachi's dead, Heihachi is DEAD dead
I hope "which smash character have canonically" videos become a trend
which smash characters have canonically fucked
@@sn0wblake smash ultimate roster: who's actually smash? Tierlist
By captain astronaut
@@sn0wblakeoff the top of my head:
Marth, Chrom, Robin, Shulk, Pyra, Mythra, Olimar, Kazuya, Ken, Young Link, and Fox (in one of Command's endings).
I'm unsure about Bowser, cause it's never made clear as to whether or not he reproduced asexually (unless you count Miyamoto's comment from that one video as canon, which means that Bowser canonically fucked Miyamoto).
@@LegendryHeropon im sorry, OLIMAR FUCKS???
@@LegendryHeropon It seems like every month, more and more ideas come out to validate my "Bowser is bisexual" headcanon.
Cloud pretty much dies at the end of Advent Children but comes back after being rejected from the lifestream by Aerith and Zack
But he said no movies or other forms of media are included.
@@williamsanborn9195 No, that's not true at the end of the original game, a post credits scene shows a black screen that says 500 years later and then Nanaki with his puppies in Midgar which is full of moss and plants. So canonically ff7 humanity are dead including Cloud and the others
Also, the Dissidia games exist, and he kinda died in the 2nd one, but it's a prequel of the original Dissidia game, and for lore reasons, all the playable characters who died in that game including him come back to life, so...I guess he'd fall under both "died in an alternate universe" and "cheated death." Cheated death in an alternate universe
@@gilliancastle5106 The Dissidia games are spin off games that do not form part of the official Final Fantasy canon, although there are theories that they join universes, there is nothing confirmed by Nomira or anyone else related to Dissidia
@angelicayamiletcristobalol2904 I am fully aware of this, hence the alternate universe comments I made
Feel like you could include Joker (Persona 5) in the cheated death category. (SPOILERS)
When a god merged the dimension of human cognition (thoughts) with the real world, it also erased Joker and his friends from humanity's collective consciousness, essentially wiping them from existence. They only survived thanks to an extra-dimensional space existing between dreams and reality (the Velvet Room).
Not 100% sure if erasure from reality exactly counts as death, nor if being transported to some weird pocket dimenion upon being erased is a form of cheating death, but I think it can count, especially since they were then able to just go back to the combined reality and apparently auto-undo the erasure upon re-entering.
Joker cheats death too. He got shot in the head in one cutscene. He would have died but canonically avoids death through the Metaverse. And don't forget about the whole Thanos snap Yaldabaoth does in which the Phantom Thieves just cease to exist. That part is canon too.
Ganon also dies in the Defeat timeline. Twice actually. Both times by the hero from Link to the Past, and they're the same guy from OoT. Link kills him in Link to the Past, and again in the Oracle games when he's revived in a botched ritual by Twinrova.
Which means OoT's Ganondorf dies four times in four different games.
Dont you mean twice? Or does he die twice in both games?
A lot of errors in this video.
1: Mario, Luigi, Peach, and Bowser all canonically die in Super Paper Mario and get sent to the underworld.
2: In the arcade version of Donkey Kong Jr "Jumpman" (who may or may not be Mario) is seen to fall from the platform and die in the ending.
3: Tellius (Ike's games) does not take place in the same world as Shadow Dragon/New Mystery/Awakening. They take place in another world/universe and someone some time before Awakening brought over the Ragnell (Ike's sword) and stories of Ike from Tellius to Arcanea. (the main world of Fire Emblem) Universe travel is very much a thing in Fire Emblem through outrealm gates.
4: Marth is indeed dead by the events of Awakening and Chrom indeed dies in Lucina's timeline. Robin doesn't die even in Awakening's true ending because right after the FMV with Chrom finding SOMEONE on the field it shows Robin and whoever you married's endings. (short text in FE games for each character telling you want happened to them after the game finished) This basically confirms that the person found on the field was indeed Robin.
5: The Elibe games, the ones with Roy, take place in a different world than mainline. So he canonically never dies.
6: FE Fates is a fictional story within the setting of FE Awakening, so Corrin is actually a fictional character to Chrom and Lucina. Not dead, but she does temporarily die right before the final boss exclusively in the Conquest route. So she technically counts as "died in an alternate timeline."
7: Fodlan, the world that Byleth comes from, like Elibe, is completely separate from the other FE worlds. Also Byleth is canonically an immortal goddess who doesn't age.
8: Ridley canonically dies for good in Super Metroid. Ridley can regenerate his body as long as he's still alive. During the late game of Metroid Zero Mission the space pirates find Ridley's still alive head and heart and turns him into a cyborg so he can move around while the rest of his body regenerates. This is "Meta Ridley" and is the same Ridley as the one in Zero Mission. By the events of Samus Returns Ridley is almost fully regenerated, but dies for good in Super Metroid after he is fully regenerated. The Ridley in Other M is a clone, and the Ridley in Fusion was an alien parasite replicating his DNA based off Ridley's corpse that was being stored in the spaceship fusion takes place in. Ridley does not appear in Dread because at this point it would be even more of an asspull to bring him back AGAIN.
9: Shulk was basically a zombie for the entirety of XB1 until the final chapter. He was undead for most of the entire game and only became fully alive in the final chapter when Alvis granted him power based on Shulk's choice to oppose Zanza.
10: Pyra and Mythra did canonically die, but were revived due to the way how blades work. They only kept their memories because Rex's shared core worked as a memory backup, which was foreshadowed in Chapter 7 when Malos' stole Pyra's memories.
11: BotW/ToTK are implied to be a full series reboot. But that doesn't mean much when all the versions of Link, Zelda, and Ganon are long dead by the last game of each of the branches of the OG timeline.
12: Sora actually died for real at the end of KH3, but because KH hates killing off characters for good he merely ended up in an alternate mirror universe. The only other time Sora "died" (not really) was in KH1 but was very short lived. Also the reason Sora came back in KH1 was because of Kairi's powers. It had nothing to do with Roxas or Ventus.
13: Sephiroth came back only twice. He was killed originally prior to the events of FF7 by Cloud but his body was recovered and placed into statis while parts of Jenova acted as Sephiroth clones controlled by the main body. His true body was destroyed for good at the end of the OG FF7 but he came back in Advent Children via a clone body. (an actual clone, not Jenova parts shapeshifting) It's unclear if the Sephiroth in the remake series is the OG time traveling, another clone, the OG, or something different.
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Don't forget how he called Demise "Demeese" Literally no one else calls him that.
Ness did die technically because he destroyed his timeline which killed everyone and created a new timeline where giygas never existed by ness killing him and porky turning off the devils machine
Well ness died twice?, maybe, mother 3 possibly takes place in a difficult timeline, and there’s also ness is the hot dog guy theory exists
Ness also possibly never died thanks to news is hot dog guy, where actually he may have died (mother 3 ending) or because of the alternate usiverse mother 3 takes place in(?)
FE gets even more cases of dead in alternate universes as a result of New Mystery of the Emblem. The bad ending is expanded into a feral Medeus ravaging the land and a major reveal of TMS is that the Mirages are the spirits that were reduced to their base to keep fighting after this calamity. This somehow extends to Awakening characters as well.
Wait, Tokyo Mirage Sessions actually DOES explain why they’re like that?! I’d been looking for the explanation but could never find it! (Also, no wonder all of the Mirages have amnesia, remembering your own death would be super traumatizing.)
Fun fact: Captain falcon isn’t a name, but a title that’s progressively passed down to successors. With each iteration of smash and f-zero having a different person as captain falcon. Meaning he’s technically “died” about 3+ times now.
We don't know which captain is depicted in smash or its chronology since there are 3: the main, anime and technically the novel time periods. if its the CF from F-zero GP legend which took place in 2201 he would be dead but that game released after 64 so it's likely the falcon from 2560 (original game/chronology) with it currently sitting on 2610, which would put him as probably retired but not dead.
So just like how botw link hasn't "died" in his current incarnation, the captain we see is his joung self or a new one with the other retired.
Sora:
- Got turned into a Heartless (He got better)
- Actually died and then rewound time, maybe twice? That whole segment was pretty confusing
- Rewound time again and got banished from existence to Quadratum, which isn't really an afterlife considering that as far as what we can see in the KH4 trailer, it's basically Japan and ordinary non-dead people live there, plus there's some as of yet unelaborated upon method of travelling there, but Strelitzia is also there and she definitely 100% died so why is she there and not The Final World, and does that mean that Sora didn't die when he was sent to The Final World in bullet point 2?
Sonic dies in 06 which is an alternate timeline that was erased. So he died in a different timeline. But cheated death is fine
Sonic 06 is.... complicated, 06 is TECHNICALLY the main timeline. However due to the events of the story being undone in the end and the events never happened. Which explains why Sonic from 06 forward never died, however that explains the different version of Silver The Hedgehog in Sonic Rivals.... still doesn't explain why we weirdly have Crisis City and the Silver fight in Generations though
The Lucario in smash is likely based off of the one from his movie so if you wanna be technical that specific Lucario died
No it can't be because the one in smash can mega evolve, the one in the movie was trapped for a long time before the advant of mega evolution and when he came back he didn't even have a trainer to mega evolve.
@@ravinercf I mean yeah sure the one in the movie didn’t mega evolve because the gimmick didn’t exist yet and you do need a trainer to mega evolve, however… Lucario in smash does not have a trainer his intro doesn’t have him come from a Pokéball so how does he mega evolve then? Also he literally speaks English, name another Lucario that has done that ever and not to mention it’s the same voice actor from the movie
That was in a movie, it isnt valid for this videos criteria.
@@edwincenteno7266 yeah well I suppose so I’m just saying that Lucario is heavily based off of the movie one, it’s not a 1:1 copy of the movie one though so that’s also valid
@@ravinercf there is also the possibility of that specific Lucario not being in the mega timeline, from what OR/AS established.
technically, sonic died and got resed in a different timeline, considering they did put out the flame that started the game, so 06 technically didn't happen in 06 and im glad for that
Sonic White and the Seven Chaos Emeralds
Everybody talks about KH1 Sora dying… everybody forgets there’s an entire gameplay segment and world in KH3 about cheating death LOL
Yeah, can’t wait for my sister to have to collect 111 Soras in the final world when she reaches that point…
steve's respawning is explained in the end poem
steve is canonically the avatar of a higher being known as 'The player' Death is only an inconvenience
Dedede Never Actually Cheats Death As He Is Never Killed By Kirby
0:32 THE ONE PIECE IS REEEEEEEAAAAAAAL
olimar has also cheated death as in both the bad ending of pikmin 1 and pikmin 4 (in all endings) his life support fails and he dies but is brought back to life by being put through an onion and turned into a leafling
finally, a smash fan who knows (a little bit of) earthbound lore
I’m shocked you didn’t bring up how Lucas’ fate is completely unknown. What happens at the end of Mother 3 is left as open to interpretation as possible, and it’s entirely possible that the end is the afterlife. But again, nobody knows for sure.
I guess to try and clarify Inklings to the best of my knowledge
In turf war and the anarchy modes, getting splatted isn’t fully death, as the soul the flies away during the splatted animation can get to a respawn point and reform it’s body (or something like that). Salmon run is likely similar with respawn tech inside the life rings, but it needs a little ink in order to fully function.
Story modes are weird.
While I’ve never played any of the first 2 games, I believe there are respawn points in both the overworld and in the levels, so there are respawn points available. Splat 3 is a bit weird. Inside all levels except final boss, there are respawn points. I believe there are no respawn points in crater but some in alterna (though I could be mistaken). However, I would say touching the fuzzy ooze is a death sentence to a turfling, or at the very least would force them to be splatted to be returned to normal.
Unfortunately, the DLCs can get a bit confusing. The level’s inside octo expansion do have respawn points, however during break out sequence, there aren’t any (the “checkpoints” aren’t respawn points), meaning that if eight dies during the escape, they would be canonically dead. Sanitization is a weird point. To my knowledge, I believe it’s removing memories from a body and inject null data, or something akin to that. In short, a person without any memories prior to sanitization and basically a zombie. Count that if you want or not. Side order is weirder. To start with, this dlc literally takes place in a simulation, so no death is a true death. If that was it, then it would be simple enough, but with death and death parallels, there is something that could be questioned as death or not, namely in the form of “greyscaling”, which is a fancy way of saying mind control (again). You’re choice on whether or not to call it a death or not
Splatoon is weird
“Sephiroth, well, he’s Sephiroth.”
Ok, if you don’t want to do it, let the ff7 nerd do the explaining.
If we’re following the original which is what I think the Sephiroth in smash is. Sephiroth’s first ‘you were supposed to die here’ was in the Nibelhiem incident where he fell into the lifestream with Jenova’s head. Due to SOLDIER stuff, he ended up merging with Jenova as he crystallised his body in the northern cavern which I theorize is what protected him from and normal lifestream victims. The second time was the ending of ff7 where you ‘properly’ kill him. However unlike most beings, you don’t see his body return to the lifestream, instead exploding in streams of light. Later on in the book, On the Way to a Smile, it tells us that if one resists the pull of the current, they can keep their consciousness intact and technically keep living. By attaching himself to a memory in the lifestream he was able to create something like a horcrux being Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo which when exposed to a part of Jenova which in Advent Children was her head. He was able to build himself another body, quote: “I could use Mother’s power. If I had just a piece of her, I could forge another body for myself.” After the final fight in Advent Children, we don’t really see Sephiroth later in that timeline and don’t know what became of him, only really being able to theorise about it. However, destroying Sephiroth again seemingly killed all the remnants as we don’t hear of them in Dirge of Cerberus. Most likely still being in that state of consciousness in the lifestream just less inactive due to Geostigma now being fully cured.
Also I noticed you missed Cloud out who also cheated death. In the mainline, he gets shot in the back by a slowly dying Yazoo but via the power of ✨having a friend who is one with the planet but also dead✨ he was basically killed, went to heaven, god said no, and then went back to the living. Advent Children is really confusing and I’ve been trying to figure this entire franchise out for years but hoped this helped 👍
Anyway Cloud is human and will eventually die as will Tifa with the others because at the end of the original game 500 years pass, showing that Midgar flourished.
@@angelicayamiletcristobalol2904 well then most of this list should be everyone dies
Correction, Kairi brought him back in KH1, not Roxas, and Sora is actually, explicitly dead at the end of KH3, Strelitza even goes as far as saying that Quadratum is the afterworld for them, and we saw Strelitza get murdered. While Sora has cheated death several times, and will do it again, for now he is dead
Id say being erased from reality is death so id say joker should be in the cheated death list
In SPM Mario, Luigi and Peach die, but if you consider that an alternate continuity, everyone except Rosalina got sucked into a blackhole and died in Mario Galaxy and then she created a new universe and copies of all the characters. It's stupid and I hate it, but it's canon.
Also, Wario can become a zombie and get better, so...
Depending on how you look at the DK64 game over DK and Diddy may have died in an alternate timeline.
In Star Fox 64 if you take a route where you fight Star Wolf twice, Wolf dies.
It;'s implied Lucas dies after Mother 3 ends.
If you don't answer the detective's questions correctly, Joker dies, so possible AU death. Joker also gets erased from the universe temporarily before becoming too rebellious to stay erased.
Byleth dies so much they were even born dead, but being the Mary Sue/Marty Stu they are, death never sticks.
Just one little nitpick: technically the greninja we see in smash is one specific greninja as it turns into ash-greninja for it’s final smash. This means that either it is the event exclusive battle bond greninja from before battle bond’s effect was changed, or it’s literally Ash’s greninja from the Pokémon anime. Ash’s greninja is still alive and kicking, while the event exclusive one can’t die because it’s in a Pokémon game. Thus, the greninja in smash has canonically not died.
The same thing applies to Mewtwo. There is only supposed to be one Mewtwo in existence, and it is just as alive as it was when it was first created.
reverse applies to Lucario as it is basically explicitly Sir Aaron's Lucario and that one died
Cloud Strife is in fact dead (the end of FF7 takes place 500 years after the event of 7 and the only character we see in that point in time is Red XIII, and it’s basically impossible that Cloud (due to being a human among other things) is lasting that long in the timeline. And since that’s something we actually see in the actual game well obviously that means he’s dead.
Pretty sure you can kill Byleth in 3 Hopes, which is confirmed to be an alternate timeline from 3 Houses. I could be wrong, but I think the Lucina in Heroes who guards the Tempest is where she went after Awakening. So yeah, she's probably fine.
Pit is weird for so many reasons on top of what was mentioned here. In the Gameboy game that nobody played, his wings burn off in the end. Then Uprising comes along and makes that non-canon, so I guess it doesn't count. Uprising also goes and makes him retroactively canon to Smash Bros itself, so does getting turned into a trophy count as death?
Yup, you can kill Byleth in Three Hopes. You nailed it.
was coming down to comment that too! byleth def goes in "died in an alternate timeline"
Bruh u forgot when mario literaly gone to hell cuz he died
(Hell = under-were, mario = paper mario, died = dementio blitzing him)
Ok so this is incorrect for two reasons.
1. Paper Mario =/= Mario. They most certainly are not the same character.
2. Even if my first point is wrong, Paper Mario and crew get sent to the Underwhere, but do not die. It LOOKS like they die, but Dimentio just teleports them there. This is directly mentioned by a character in the Underwhere saying “your games are not truly over” and other such things.
tecnically all character in mario have canonically die to the collapse of the universe caused by bowser in the ending of Mario galaxy 1, soo all character, including Donkey kong and wario universe, get destroyed
the only ecception could be Rosalina that she reset the universe, and the event of mario galaxy 2 occur, and everyone are reset, as seen in the ending of Mario galaxy 1
ye only Rosalina is alive bc she controll the cosmo
I can say for sure, Sonic has never died cannonly (unless you count Sonic '06) or in another universe. Correct me if you may.
But for the SAKE OF THE FANDOM, he has cheated death, *more than once.*
Do your research.
Have you seen- no I have not I need more explanation 😡
Bro has no idea how to pronounce Demise. It’s an actual word in the dictionary. Look it up.
Yeah I actually cringed when I heard it.
In the Mario and Luigi series.Mario and Luigi aren't scripted to die, but they each can die and be revived by the other using a 1up mushroom.
And this isn't like the platforming games where you bubble in. The other brother has to shove the mushroom down the dead brothers throat or else they will remain dead for the rest of the fight.
If I remember correctly, Robin survives the events of awakening, vague as it may be. In the final cutscene, Chrom says, "Welcome back. It's over now." Plus the mark of Grima is no longer on Robin's hand
2:23 ridley isn't fought in dread or in the original metroid 2, he is fought in the remake tho
I’m pretty sure Ridley isn’t in any of those games tbh
Yeah even if Robin does the self-sacrifice he/she is back at the end. it's not an implication in the game it's full-on confirmed right after
What About Olimar? In Pikmin 4, It’s A Plot Point That He’s Actually Dead (Or A Leafling, Technically) And You Have To Find And Revive Him.
I’d personally put _BotW_ Link in the list of characters who cheated death.
IIRC Cloud also died in _Advent Children_ after being gunned down by Yazoo, but was sent back from the Lifestream by Aerith.
Additional stuff for Xenoblade, I'll put a "spoiler warning" here for XC3 and it's DLC, and put it below the read more.
Anyways so in Xenoblade 3's DLC, Future Redeemed, we finally see Shulk and Rex again. However we don't Pyra or Mythra, and it's implied that Rex is looking for them, or misses them greatly, implying they did not survive the world merge. This happens a lot with the casts of 1 and 2, occasionally finding decendants or reincarnations of those characters, but never seeing them die on screen. That being said though, given Melia has the replica Monado from Future Connected, and Nia has a picture of the XC2 gang along with Poppi, we can assume Shulk, Tora, and the Aegis, at least, are dead. In fact, we even see Shulk die in the DLC, it's a bit fuzzy because it's more like a "walk into the big scary thing and turn into mist", but as of yet we have no confirmation that Shulk is alive, and are lead to believe he's dead with Rex and A(? I think)
Also, the thing that helped him rewrite reality (the Monado, AKA Ontos, AKA Alvis) was the main antagonist of the DLC and presumably died with Shulk
Hasn't Byleth technology die and cheated death. There is a point of the story where they almost die protecting Edelgard before Sothis rewinds time. Also spoilers: In the Crimson Flower path when you defeat Rhea Byleth does drop dead before their heart restarts when their magic stone disappears from their heart
4:52 who is “demese” lol
Sephiroth? Well, he’s sephiroth.
Most real answer ever for if he’s dead or not.
7:19 "demeese"
Super slight correction.
Ike's games take place in it's own universe known as Tellius. Ike simply traveled the outrealms(the multiverse) into Marth's world Altaea where he presumably died.
Well steve has canon infinite strength and infinite speed
With the addition he can create and destroy worlds
So yeah its safe to say steve is immortal
13:09 That also happened in the original Kingdom Hearts on PS2, not just the Final Mix version.🤨
Sick video, I'll have to check out your other videos!
But a few additions that I can think of off of the top of my head from the games I am more familiar with (Maybe for a part 2 :D ).
So Byleth can actually die in the spin off game Fire Emblem Three Hopes, he acts as your rival and depending on what choices you make you may have to kill him, so that could go under the "dies in another universe" section.
Corrin dies in a few of the paths, but he comes back like 5 minutes later, so probably cheated death for that one.
I THINK Captain Falcon dies in the F Zero anime, so that would be "Dies in another universe." (Double check that one tho)
And last Joker and the rest of the Phantom Thieves die for a bit when they fade from the public's cognition (Persona 5 stuff, don't worry about it), but because Joker is built different they manage to come back.
Addendum to Corrin - the Heirs of Fate campaign follows the children of countless timelines, where all the parent units were slain, including many Corrins.
I don't know if it counts, but at least a version of Mario and Luigi have died and cheated death. In Super Paper Mario for the Wii, Mario and Luigi (and I think Peach and Bowser) are killed and sent to the Underwhere, and then are brought back due to being the heroes that are prophesied to save all worlds from being completely erased.
They never actually died, they were just teleported there. One of the characters in the Underwhere mention this directly
You forgot that the duck from duck hunt gets shot
It wasn't in a game, but it was a tie-in series, Captain Falcon dies in the F-ZERO GP Legend anime and passes his title down to Ryu Suzaku, it's an alternate timeline death technically
14:35 Steve's ability to respawn is also canon, not only is it shown in trailers, but also talked about in the end script. It is also explained in the end script that the player is a god with the power to simply create and destroy universes like they are nothing, meaning that not only can Steve canonically travel between multiverses and canonically respawn at any point, he can go into an immortal state called creative mode, he can use commands to kill beings of his choosing, create blocks in any location, destroy blocks in any location, give himself a weapon capable of destroying a dragon that scales above his base form. Btw by my logic Steve is canonically just an avatar of the player, and the player can do whatever they want to Steve to make him more powerful, less powerful, basically do anything with him, base form being Steve without the player's influence, other than /give commands and arguably the ability to stack chests within each other with ctrl + middle click due to the fact that Steve's stats dont change with that, therefore that can be used as a strength indicator, which gets Steve around 14,000,000^201 kilograms of water when chests are stacked within each other with water buckets in the most inner level of chests. Steve is truly the most powerful character in existence other than truly boundless characters as long as he has the player behind him.
this is why Steve is the highest tier character in Super Smash Bros
also there's an easy exploit to revive yourself in hardcore mode too, by going to spectate world then turning on LAN with cheats on, you can /gamemode yourself back into life, therefore meaning even in hardcore mode the respawnability of Steve still exists, it's just not an immediate option for the player, the player still has an easy way to do it due to the players canon infinite power (this infinite power also means mods are canon, so screw you people who say "_____ can beat steve because they are only weak to ____" STEVE CAN SIMPLY MOD THIS ITEM INTO EXISTENCE AND EVEN MAKE IT MORE POWERFUL WITH ENCHANTMENTS
Steve is too powerful honestly lol
15:00 What is a god to Kirby?!?
No seriously he’s a god-killer
Sonic has died in like every game I’ve played and just said, “screw it I’ma walk it off”
No one actually knows if Ness is dead. Most people think he died happily of old age, but there is proof against it too. The game never explicitly says anything about it, and I cant elaborate without spoiling all of Earthbound and Mother 3. All I have to say is Po(r)key exists, so it's very possible, but it's still up in the air.