2023 Chevy Silverado ZR2 Bison Muddy Off-Road Review

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  • Опубліковано 10 лис 2023
  • Can the 2023 Chevrolet Silverad ZR2 Bison conquer our Mountain Test Course when it's wet and covered in mud? We put it to the test!
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  • @StrangeTimesNear
    @StrangeTimesNear 8 місяців тому +19

    Driver error on the truck popping out of 4 high. You can't stomp on the gas on 4 low buddy. Hence 4 low.

  • @Rockmachine99
    @Rockmachine99 8 місяців тому +99

    $85K. GM is out of their minds.

    • @taylorjones6163
      @taylorjones6163 8 місяців тому +8

      Seriously, what are they thinking

    • @Lifeof728
      @Lifeof728 8 місяців тому +3

      Theres definitely kilos of cocaine at GM hq.

    • @kevinstarski1598
      @kevinstarski1598 8 місяців тому +15

      They will sell it for 100k...dealers are out of their minds...wait, how about the customers who buy it after all?

    • @thebigv8644
      @thebigv8644 8 місяців тому +10

      Well how about $120k+ for a raptor R

    • @beadblaster9508
      @beadblaster9508 8 місяців тому +5

      That bison is almost 120 grand in canda. Completely nuts. You can buy a raptor for way less and have three times the truck.. the bison colorado is almost 90 grand up here. Gm has lost its mind. Wait till the end of the year and gm will be discounting them heavily as there will be no buyers.

  • @Migueljrglez
    @Migueljrglez 8 місяців тому +28

    85k??? I can’t believe these prices 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @northerntoyota7584
      @northerntoyota7584 8 місяців тому +3

      Come to Canada, over 100k here and one is sitting at my dealer sold. Crazy

    • @karsaorlong4391
      @karsaorlong4391 8 місяців тому

      As the Canadian economy gets worse a lot of those sold one will end up in the market because they can't afford the payments. @@northerntoyota7584

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah and Ford wants over $100k for a Raptor R and most F-150 XLT's are priced at $60k.

  • @just4ivaylo92
    @just4ivaylo92 8 місяців тому +11

    The colors of the seats remind me of the cheap vinyl on uhauls. 😀

    • @traciweisenbachCITB
      @traciweisenbachCITB 4 місяці тому +3

      The seats on this sexy Chevy Silverado are the best SOOOOOO……..

  • @ALMX5DP
    @ALMX5DP 8 місяців тому +11

    Very impressive performance overall though. Seemed to make easy work of most of the hill.

  • @rromancunard
    @rromancunard 8 місяців тому +5

    GMC Pick-ups are better in design and probably in reliability.
    Beautiful car and thanks for share 🙏🏼

  • @Doc1855
    @Doc1855 8 місяців тому

    Thanks for the review Ryan.
    I look forward to watching them every week !

  • @EZapar
    @EZapar 8 місяців тому +2

    Oh man!!! I want so bad to try that hill again in the mucky conditions!! Super cool just how much the surface changes on your course with different weather conditions. Cool review.

  • @atlasa9020
    @atlasa9020 8 місяців тому +1

    Need some Crosstrek wilderness mud testing asap! Great video love the channel

  • @WOLF-qq2cn
    @WOLF-qq2cn 8 місяців тому +6

    I'm still holding on to my 2022 chevy Silverado trail boss 6.2 i bought 2 months ago with 14500 miles on it for 40,000 cash in az but it does have a restored title it was passenger side hit every thing works great .

    • @champinsoccer9
      @champinsoccer9 8 місяців тому +7

      Wow! 40k cash? Why didn't you buy a brand new one without damage

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 8 місяців тому +6

    Ryan, How does the real world highway mpg compare with the high performance versions of the Colorado/Canyon? 🤔

  • @ALMX5DP
    @ALMX5DP 8 місяців тому +10

    10:35 I was literally about to comment about how this time it finally stayed in 4wd, but nope. For regular models that t-case system would be fine, but for this most offroad oriented version seems silly to retain that instead of using a proper unit like Ford gives the option for.

    • @terrencejones9817
      @terrencejones9817 8 місяців тому +4

      It's something he's doing. He's the only tester to ever have this happen. I climbed a wicked switch back with 500 feet of elevation gain in 4wd low, 2 weeks ago, with zero issues.
      I've got 60k miles on my Trailboss, it has thr same Tcase as this, never run into this problem and I have a lot of offroad time in mine.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 8 місяців тому +1

      @@terrencejones9817 I've heard of others, notably C&D last year during the first drive event.

    • @terrencejones9817
      @terrencejones9817 8 місяців тому +1

      @ALMX5DP I'll look for that. I've seen some serious off road challenges with these trucks, never this problem.

    • @upshifter5316
      @upshifter5316 7 місяців тому +1

      Aldo happened to Texas Truck channel on their AT4x.
      Clutch based system has torque limitations that I think high rpm’s in the 6.2 combined with 4Lo gearing overwhelms. System probably detects clutch slippage and/or heat and disengages to avoid detonation.
      This is where the Raptor HiLok tcase is far superior, increased Clamping force.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому +3

      @@terrencejones9817 It is something he's doing. It says in the manual not to exceed 45 mph in 4-low. It's to protect the clutch in the t-case as well as prevent stupidity from breaking something up front if the diff is locked. It's the trade-off you have to deal with when it comes to IFS+front locker+automatic transfer case. Fortunately with the insanely low first gear that modern transmissions have, 4-high is far more capable than boomers assume that grew up with 3 or 4 speed transmissions and 4-low was absolutely critical for going up any decent grade in 4WD.

  • @lukiw7044
    @lukiw7044 8 місяців тому +5

    Very good off-road truck. Great review as always. Greetings from Poland

    • @WacawMaso-qi6fw
      @WacawMaso-qi6fw 8 місяців тому

      Kategoria znane i lubiane przysłowia ludowe: Arka Gdynia…

  • @danielbuchanan5327
    @danielbuchanan5327 5 місяців тому +1

    I think trail boss should have an AEV option as well, but obviously it would be with the 5.3 and would have a suspension other than what comes on the ZR2. But it would make the trail boss way more off-road capable for those who just want a normal off-road truck. Maybe even throw in a front locker option?

  • @javierjavier-ht3yu
    @javierjavier-ht3yu 6 місяців тому

    Hey Ryan, I want to say you that I admire your channel, I know that you make every episode with profesionalism and I believe that you´re an expert in what you do, I want to say also that you put your best effort in every review and I want to tell you that I´d like your t-shirts. Congratulations and I´ll wish you success for you.Thanks.

  • @niknak-7206
    @niknak-7206 6 місяців тому +1

    The reason at 12:59 when it understeered is because having the locker in it wont be able to turn as well because both back wheels turn at the same speed when locked and when you are turning normally your inner wheel turns slower than your outer wheel allowing for smooth turning.

  • @justinclark6053
    @justinclark6053 4 місяці тому +2

    Right….. soooo $85k is FUCKING INSANE. I own a 2022 trail boss 6.2L custom trim level and even my truck was overpriced. I do love it but…. the cost of pick up trucks is fucking bizarre because we’re all idiots and we agreed to pay it.

  • @Artlover688
    @Artlover688 7 місяців тому +1

    I live in the desert and take out my ZR two offering all the time up and down hills and it’s never shipped it out of four-wheel-drive to Chulo Jazelle me ever

  • @freidrichnietzsche6643
    @freidrichnietzsche6643 Місяць тому

    Unless you specifically need front and rear lockers or are an ARB/Bison fanboy, just buy a trail boss, LTZ, or High Country z71 and put upgraded aftermarket shocks (King, Fox, etc) and Deaver leaf springs on it and save a ton of money. Look into the company Dirt King which makes many great bolt-on parts for the GM 1500's.
    Did this to my loaded '16 LTZ and its an amazing truck.

  • @carloseleivas8632
    @carloseleivas8632 8 місяців тому

    Silverado es Silverado el poder américano haciendo historia
    .. Que belleza de Camioneta 😍

  • @Christian-kj4ox
    @Christian-kj4ox 8 місяців тому +5

    It’s annoying it changed out of 4LO but I guess I can understand why, as you mentioned maybe too much speed or maybe it sensed too much wheel speed and to protect the T Case it shut off? That would be my only guess. Great video!

    • @thebigv8644
      @thebigv8644 8 місяців тому +1

      Not sure why the default is set to go to 2wd instead of going to 4hi.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      It's changing out of 4lo because for some reason he insists on intentionally leaving the diffs unlocked and instead does the old "two-foot" trick that guys with only open diffs have to use to climb hills. His right foot is applying >50% throttle and he's dragging the brakes with his left foot to try to send more power to the tires with the most grip. Car and Driver found out that when in 4lo, the computer is programmed to drop out of 4lo if it sees >50% throttle + brakes being applied. For some reason this clown insists on not using the features of the truck to off-road and is trying to 'old school' it. He did it here and he did the exact same thing in the Bison video when the group all engaged their lockers but he told GM's staff he was going to climb it without lockers and later made the passing comment that he was "two-footing it". Let the truck do its thing with the lockers activated, stop doing this r*tarded boomer two-footing sht.

  • @markmorrison8700
    @markmorrison8700 8 днів тому

    You can get them for 73k now. I think that hill could've been made by engaging both lockers-it's amazing what happens when they are both set. Awesome truck-I'm close to pulling the trigger-just can't decide on the engine...

  • @javierjavier-ht3yu
    @javierjavier-ht3yu 6 місяців тому

    Ryan bro I´d like a lot this trucks, they´re beautiful, they´re lovely I would like to testing one of them for a while, maybe one day of these.

  • @veitjacob9764
    @veitjacob9764 8 місяців тому +2

    Nice video and nice but expensive truck. Just the sound seems a bit off. Maybe its my setup but especially in the first 5 minutes the music overlays the voice a bit too much. Keep up the good content! Really enjoy it.😊

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  8 місяців тому +2

      The music is dropped by 30 dB versus The Voice. Which is even more than we normally drop the music. It could be related to your set up, but will definitely keep an eye on that in future episodes.

  • @MikeDupin
    @MikeDupin 8 місяців тому +8

    I’d be really surprised if the auto-switch to 2H happened in order to protect the clutch pack between the differentials. It probably thought that you’re on a standard road again and you just forgot to disengage 4L. Ryan, did you maybe get in touch with Chevy and asked them what’s the reason for the mode switch?

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  8 місяців тому +8

      I talked to the engineers at the off-road event with the Colorado Bison and they “figured it was the protection algorithm.”

    • @MikeDupin
      @MikeDupin 8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the prompt reply! Wow, that’s really surprising!

    • @terrencejones9817
      @terrencejones9817 8 місяців тому

      Depending on the drive mode you select. The truck will shift itself out if 4WD low.

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  8 місяців тому +4

      In the video you can hear the “ding” when it cuts out. I didn’t notice until a couple minutes later.

    • @terrencejones9817
      @terrencejones9817 8 місяців тому +6

      @@drivingsports My Trailboss owners manual says 4wd low is limited to 45mph. Perhaps your wheel speed exceeded that.

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 8 місяців тому +10

    I really like the ZR2 except for it switching out of 4Low. Ryan, what if you needed to continue that climb?

    • @thebigv8644
      @thebigv8644 8 місяців тому

      I'm sure it's a safety, although it's odd it goes to 2wd instead of 4hi. he was spinning the tires pretty good bringing up the engine rpm.

    • @kristoferfc6525
      @kristoferfc6525 6 місяців тому +1

      I own a 22, it's NEVER gone out of 4Low when I didn't want it to.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      It's because for some reason he insists on intentionally leaving the diffs unlocked and instead does the old two-foot trick that guys with only open diffs have to use to climb hills. His right foot is applying >50% throttle and he's dragging the brakes with his left foot to try to send more power to the tires with the most grip. Car and Driver found out that when in 4lo, the computer is programmed to drop out of 4lo if it sees >50% throttle + brakes being applied. For some reason this clown insists on not using the features of the truck to off-road and is trying to 'old school' it. He did it here and he did the exact same thing in the Bison video when the group all engaged their lockers but he told GM's staff he was going to climb it without lockers and later made the passing comment that he was "two-footing it". Let the truck do its thing with the lockers activated, stop doing this r*tarded boomer two-footing sht.

    • @kristoferfc6525
      @kristoferfc6525 6 місяців тому +1

      lmao the comment made me laugh a lot, yeah I think if he did rear locker, 4HI, he'd have gotten right through, that's what I typically do for that stuff to keep the lugs clear for biting. But of course, crawling in 4LO with both lockers even in mud like that it typically just pulls right through lol@@hochhaul

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому +4

      @@kristoferfc6525 haha yea i had to vent after finally figuring out what he was doing to cause all these trucks to drop out of 4lo. to realize he's two-footing it instead of using the two selectable lockers we are here to see, and then throwing shade at GM for it dropping out of 4lo due to something he's doing.... it's just... I'm at a loss for words. Nobody is getting anything out of watching him try to get around in mud with open diffs. we're here to see how the features of the truck perform, not watch him do tricks with his feet🤦‍♂

  • @laloolhouvum1634
    @laloolhouvum1634 8 місяців тому

    33.2 inch tyres in 18 inch wheels. If the tyres size gonna stay the same after further modifications too. I'm gonna opt for 17 inch wheels 275/70 R17(33.16). I preferred mechanical lever for 2H, 4H and 4L. It's so satisfying cuz you're putting in the drive mode and not asking the vehicle to be in that particular drive mode.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      I don't believe that 17" wheels have enough space to clear the brake calipers on the 2019+ trucks. The 2014-19's were the last GM fullsize trucks that would fit 17" wheels.

  • @chileshemubanga3594
    @chileshemubanga3594 6 місяців тому

    Hey Ryan,is there a tow mirrors option package on this Silverado 1500?.

  • @deejayimm
    @deejayimm 8 місяців тому

    I love it when he slips up and his brain forgets he is trying to sound poncy, and he actually says BUTTON, and not BUT-TON.

  • @VictorMendoza-ql6zv
    @VictorMendoza-ql6zv 8 місяців тому +1

    I'm looking forward to seeing you doing overland videos, I like your long time videos!!!

  • @Eightball2516
    @Eightball2516 8 місяців тому +19

    Like the truck but I don’t trust the GMs v8 with the AFM those engines could go bad at anytime and for 85k no thanks

    • @nowayoutstp4
      @nowayoutstp4 8 місяців тому

      Diesel bruh!

    • @terrencejones9817
      @terrencejones9817 8 місяців тому +4

      I've got 60k miles on my 19 Trailboss DFM 5.3L. No issues

    • @Doc1855
      @Doc1855 8 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, Consumer Reports and Edmonds rank the GM pickups as being the WORST in reliability and to avoid them.
      That’s sad since Stillantis / Fiat Owns Chrysler, Dodge, Ram and Jeep.

    • @Isaac-muntz
      @Isaac-muntz 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@terrencejones9817Those are rookie numbers buddy

    • @terrencejones9817
      @terrencejones9817 8 місяців тому

      @@Isaac-muntz compared to what?

  • @bradsmith130
    @bradsmith130 8 місяців тому +3

    If people know 4lo no matter what truck 4 lo has a speed limitation it don't matter what make.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      It's also different based on the transfer case. Some transfer cases have clutches to engage 4lo and send power to the front axle. The ZR2 Silverado and Colorado both have a clutch in them, so there is a speed limit in the computer to prevent damage to the transfer case or possibly even the front locker if it is engaged. I don't know why this guy doesn't just use 4-Hi, it was obvious when he started using 4-hi that 4-lo was unnecessary if not worse. It has a 10 speed with a 4.70 first gear, it doesn't need the gear reduction of 4-lo.

    • @Newguy56
      @Newguy56 4 місяці тому

      If this guy knew how to off road he would be dangerous. He never even used the front locker because he had to be in 4lo and he couldn't spin the tires because of the clutches kicking him out due to spinnin the tires at 40 plus mph in 4lo. The whole idea is to keep traction not to break it for no reason. He really needs to watch other reviews and see how completely opposite his ideas of what to do is from let's say Truck King or TFL TRUCK. This guy's is tbh a walking contradiction of off road know how.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 4 місяці тому

      @Newguy56 it turns out he was using an old timer trick used with open diffs and was dragging the brakes as he gas it gas. Instead of using the lockers as they were intended to be used, he left them unlocked and instead dragged the brakes to control wheel slip. The only problem is that the computer was programmed to disengage 4LO when it detects greater than 50% brake application. That was the cause of the wheel slip and 4LO disengaging the whole time. Really, it was a dumb way to review trucks. Instead of showing how the features were designed to help offroad, he decides he's going to drive it like an old school 70's truck with an open diff. It shows us nothing about the real capability and confuses everyone watching the video when he causes the truck to intervene and act strange.

  • @brians.1357
    @brians.1357 8 місяців тому +1

    If that’s the case on the 4low and high RPM wonder why they don’t have 4Lo fail to 4Hi vs all the way down to 2wd? I’m not an off-road 4wd expert but I assume it could be programmed that way ??
    Another great video review. Love the truck but not for $85k 😂

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      It isn't "failing" into 2wd. It's because for some reason he insists on intentionally leaving the diffs unlocked and instead does the old two-foot trick that guys with only open diffs have to use to climb hills. His right foot is applying >50% throttle and he's dragging the brakes with his left foot to try to send more power to the tires with the most grip. Car and Driver found out that when in 4lo, the computer is programmed to drop out of 4lo if it sees >50% throttle + brakes being applied. For some reason this clown insists on not using the features of the truck to off-road and is trying to 'old school' it. He did it here and he did the exact same thing in the Bison video when the group all engaged their lockers but he told GM's staff he was going to climb it without lockers and later made the passing comment that he was "two-footing it". Let the truck do its thing with the lockers activated, stop doing this r*tarded boomer two-footing sht.

  • @Boobtube.
    @Boobtube. 8 місяців тому +2

    4 Lo made for 15 mph max. By you gunning it, the computer says, oh no you dont, and moves it to 4 high. 4 Lo gives you torque to get going, not meant to go flying up a incline. You should know this.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому +1

      Some guys really are oblivious to how differently modern trucks are designed compared to trucks from 30 years ago (that includes some newer trucks that have really tall gear ratio spreads ie Toyota). 4-low was important for offroading 30 years ago when all trucks had 4-speeds with a 1st gear in 2.xx range (a GM TH400 had a 2.48 for first gear). Guys actually needed 4-low to climb hills back then. The 10-speed has a 4.70 for a 1st gear. Engineers have moved the work of gear reduction away from the axle and transfer case to the transmission itself. For climbing hills in a modern truck, 4-high is a correct choice.

  • @dennisveazey4469
    @dennisveazey4469 8 місяців тому +6

    Found my dad's window sticker for his 2010 Chevrolet Z71 4x4 extended cab(rear suicide door), with the 5.3L V8 and premium interior package as well as a bed liner...etc etc. . . . $36,000.
    These car companies have absolutely lost their minds tagging these trucks north of $60,000.
    Especially since half the stuff they put on a truck now is completely unnecessary... air conditioned seats? Reclining rear seats? Heated seats for everyone(except that smart cowboy in the back seat). Ridiculous!

    • @FlowStateNewOrleans
      @FlowStateNewOrleans 8 місяців тому +4

      I'd agree, but they seem to sell plenty of them. It just makes it impossible for those of us with budgets to actually do so.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 8 місяців тому

      Well remember that the price/percentage difference between that $36k model and a $60k model today is similar to what a 1997 model was (~$21-22k) versus the 2010 model. Were people in 2010 saying similar about how OEMs have lost their minds?

    • @dennisveazey4469
      @dennisveazey4469 8 місяців тому +2

      @FlowStateNewOrleans 💯!! I don't know who is buying them, but like you said, those of us living life on a budget sure aren't. I refuse to pay over $325 a month for a vehicle. And I honestly prefer to keep it around $275. My motto: If I can't afford all this stuff on minimum wage, then I'm paying too much for it! Sad thing is it is getting harder to afford anything at that level, even if you are trying to pay for it the right way and put money back into savings for it.
      But that's OK, the shareholders are all doing just fine. 👌🙄😒

    • @dennisveazey4469
      @dennisveazey4469 8 місяців тому +1

      @ALMX5DP BUT...there is one huge difference here:
      In 1997 the Federal Minimum Wage was $5.15. In 2010 that had been raised 41% to $7.25. The price of that new $25,000 truck from 1997 to 2010 had risen at the same rate of roughly 41 percent. That 2010 truck at $36,000 though, has risen 67% to $60,000+ today, while the Federal Minimum Wage since 2010 has risen ZERO percent.

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 8 місяців тому

      @@dennisveazey4469 I referenced the similarities between $22k/36k versus $36k/60k. And the increase in minimum wage is a completely separate issue to product cost and pricing.

  • @neato24
    @neato24 8 місяців тому

    Would love to see a Disco on that hill

  • @terrencejones9817
    @terrencejones9817 8 місяців тому +2

    They aren't mud terrains. They are " maximum traction " All terrains.

  • @carlson2012abqb
    @carlson2012abqb 8 місяців тому +2

    $85k?! Sheeeeesh

  • @zz-hj9zi
    @zz-hj9zi 8 місяців тому +2

    4-lo is only for rock crawling and slow speed no wheel spin situations. In this mud you should have only been in 4-hi as driving in 4-lo with that much wheel speed will destroy the transfer case, and for every vehicle with 4-lo as well.

    • @Boobtube.
      @Boobtube. 8 місяців тому +2

      the computer is smart enough not to let that happen, hence why it switches to 4 high.

  • @MegaRetr
    @MegaRetr 8 місяців тому

    Very good off-road truck.)

  • @robspring81
    @robspring81 4 місяці тому

    I'd like to see "python pass" in the raptor using turn assist , I don't think you used turn assist in your raptor videos

  • @michaelwhonder
    @michaelwhonder 8 місяців тому +3

    Why does it seem you only test GM trucks on the ladder when the course is at its worse conditions? LOL!
    And why did you remove the bed cover to do the off-road testing?

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  8 місяців тому +2

      Transported a motorcycle to location in the bed. Luck, it seems, hasn’t been on GMs side.

  • @Rich_123
    @Rich_123 8 місяців тому

    8:20 it shows F+R lockers engaged which you didn't mention at the beginning.

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  8 місяців тому +2

      Sorry, didn’t notice that in the shot. We filmed that completely separate time and just inserted it into that moment. Instead, follow what I said on camera that would be more accurate.

  • @2URLex
    @2URLex 7 місяців тому

    I didn’t realize the jumping out of 4 wheel drive was a constant thing. My 03 Z71 did that last week and I thought I broke the diff when it jumped in 2 wheel. Do they still use the G80 lockers?

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому +1

      They use G80 lockers on standard Silverados and Sierras yet. The ZR2 Colorado and Silverado use the Eaton E-locker. The reason it's kicking out of 4-low is because the manual says not to exceed 45 MPH in 4-low. He's pinning it in 4-low and to protect the clutch in the transfer case, it eventually shifts into 2wd. For his driving style he really only needs 4-hi. With the extra low 4.70 1st gear that the 10-speed has, GM is letting the transmission do the gear reduction instead of the ancient way of using the transfer case make up for what the transmissions couldn't do 30 years ago when everything was still a 4-speed and 1st gear might only be an relatively tall 2.52. Some boomers can't comprehend how much of the gear reduction has been shifted to the transmission, hence taller axle ratios.

    • @2URLex
      @2URLex 6 місяців тому +1

      @@hochhaul cool thanks for the info!

  • @gothops154
    @gothops154 8 місяців тому

    Why do they combined front locker with rear? I get that if you’re locking the fronts, you probably want the rear too. But if you already have a dedicated button for the rear locker, why not just a separate button for the front, exclusively?

    • @Boobtube.
      @Boobtube. 8 місяців тому

      replay when he goes over the buttons. He presses the rear lock button and the button lights up, than he presses the front and rear lock button and the rear only lock button goes out. It is setup so anytime you lock the front, the rear will lock as well. They give you the rear only lock button for the times that is all you want.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому +1

      To keep stupid people from trying to drive around with the rear unlocked but the front locked. They have basically decided to use the computers to prevent stupid people from breaking their truck by making poor decisions.

  • @NathanTOrr
    @NathanTOrr 8 місяців тому +2

    Maximum traction not mud terrain.

  • @kristoferfc6525
    @kristoferfc6525 6 місяців тому

    you gotta defeat traction control all the way too otherwise the ESC cuts in too much on you, I get through tons of gnarly mud like that all the time, on a hill, but I have a KM3 I really can't call the GoodYears Mud Terrains because they same design used to be called Max Traction

  • @MattSchmader
    @MattSchmader 3 місяці тому

    Interesting they chose all time 4wd… I wonder what their thought process was on that

  • @fikes73
    @fikes73 8 місяців тому +1

    I rather get it with the diesel. It’s the way to go. Better mpg than the Colorado

    • @ALMX5DP
      @ALMX5DP 8 місяців тому +2

      Totally, though always be cognizant of the actual differences in cost per mile in terms of fuel and overall cost of ownership and not just mpg.

    • @fikes73
      @fikes73 8 місяців тому +2

      @@ALMX5DP true, but I still think it’s worth it. I got the oil change package and extended warranty with my 2020 Silverado with the duramax and I couldn’t be happier.

  • @scottb8907
    @scottb8907 8 місяців тому

    How does it compare to the Ford Ranger you've had, regarding these same conditions?

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  8 місяців тому

      The Ranger has a shorter wheelbase and never drops out of 4Lo.

  • @nweye
    @nweye 8 місяців тому +1

    MPGs driving from the West side to Eberg?

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  8 місяців тому +2

      We were towing an empty trailer, so the MPGs weren’t comparable to any of our other tests over the pass.

  • @Ringadingdingitstheking
    @Ringadingdingitstheking 2 місяці тому

    Would’ve been heaps easier if you let your tire pressures down and you won’t chew up the track so much

  • @Bondo1970
    @Bondo1970 4 місяці тому

    Looking at the same truck but with the baby diesel.

  • @wildbill23c
    @wildbill23c 8 місяців тому +1

    4 Low is for low speed usage in the first place, not sure why everything thinks they need to use it every time they go offroad...it only multiplies the engine's torque output, it don't give you any better offroad capability....unless you are crawling, there's no need for low range offroad...many older 4WD systems were geared lower so you would be pretty close to red line on the engine around 30-35mph, and it was screaming by then anyhow.
    The clutch based 4WD systems aren't the greatest, and there's always gonna be some slippage somewhere in extreme conditions. If these automakers had any sort of brains they'd just go with a mechanical open center diff for the full time 4WD setting and dump the clutch based systems...a bit more expensive up front, but it'll not let you down when you need it. The NV242 "Selec'Trac" transfer case in the Jeep XJ, ZJ, WJ, and a few of the KJ's had the option, which gave you both full time and part time 4WD, low range and 2WD, without any electronics and without clutches. Better go back to that system, it was much more reliable...a beefed up version for today's higher output engines and you'd be set.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      EXACTLY. Some guys really are oblivious to how differently modern trucks are designed compared to trucks from 30 years ago. 4-low was important for offroading 30 years ago when all trucks had 4-speeds with a 1st gear in 2.xx range (a GM TH400 had a 2.48 for first gear). Guys actually needed 4-low to climb hills back then. The 10-speed has a 4.70 for a 1st gear. Engineers have moved the work of gear reduction away from the axle and transfer case to the transmission itself. For climbing hills in a modern truck, 4-high is a better choice.

  • @TheBeatenPaths
    @TheBeatenPaths 8 місяців тому

    I'd buy one if it came with a 20 year bumber to bumper warranty

  • @freytheviking
    @freytheviking 8 місяців тому

    You think this interior will transfer to the Tahoe refresh?

  • @javierjavier-ht3yu
    @javierjavier-ht3yu 6 місяців тому

    i want to say that I´d like more Chevy trucks than Ford or Toyota maybe for its reliability and for its characteristics like infotainment and exterior appearance.

  • @javierjavier-ht3yu
    @javierjavier-ht3yu 6 місяців тому

    I want to tell you that I got a trouble with my laptop, I would like to have a new one but for thishis moment I can´t buying a new. Anyway thanks.

  • @10cpaul
    @10cpaul 8 місяців тому

    85k and no locking gas cap ! And the Toyota comment about no full time 4x4 they do that to not tear up the transmission. Why would you need full time to just drive on dry and smooth roads.

  • @javierarturof
    @javierarturof Місяць тому

    So, you are saying that Toyota is A LOT MUCH REALIABLE than these other trucks, right?

  • @dougkx450f
    @dougkx450f 6 місяців тому +1

    Impressive truck with a ridiculous price. Side note: if you're not a truck guy you shouldn't be the guy testing trucks. You don't do it justice

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      Compared to what? The regular F-150 XLT's and Ram Big Horns priced at over $60k?

    • @dougkx450f
      @dougkx450f 5 місяців тому

      @@hochhaul They are all priced too high these days. I'd love to have the truck but no one with a net worth below 1m can justify spending 70k+ on something that will depreciate to 20k in 7 or 8 years. At this rate, in 8 years a well equipped truck will be 100k

  • @rondail5675
    @rondail5675 8 місяців тому

    $85k, I just don't know what to say about it?
    Chinese vehicles will be in the U.S.A in a few years.

  • @Zanderthelab
    @Zanderthelab 8 місяців тому

    No thanks I like the power wagon, wrangler, and gladiator.

  • @SnowIsMyTerrain
    @SnowIsMyTerrain 8 місяців тому

    Wait, does Chevy have no ability to vary the clutch engagement? If you look at say, an F-150 with a 4A mode, there's a clutch engagement % that corresponds to F/R power split.

    • @ericvortecmax
      @ericvortecmax 8 місяців тому +1

      Chevy also has an auto mode. Even my 2011 z71 has auto 4x4. It acts like an awd system similar to a Subaru

  • @kevinstarski1598
    @kevinstarski1598 8 місяців тому +2

    These electronic parking brakes are super annoying...

    • @brians.1357
      @brians.1357 8 місяців тому

      I guess I didn’t follow the scenarios but he mentioned thinking he was turning on the parking brake and it turned it off so does it auto set the parking brake? Is that a setting?
      I have a 17’ Colorado with a foot parking brake (sloped driveway) I set the brake and go to park , when I turn it off I go to gear first and then release the brake (first on last off). I assume that’s how he’s using it?

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      He makes that painfully obvious every time he drives a ZR2 Silverado or a ZR2 Bison Colorado because he always uses the various modes incorrectly, causing the computer to have to intervene and drop it out of 4lo. In this case, in the mode he's in, the manual says it will drop out of 4lo if the computer senses excessive wheel speed. For his driving style, he would be better off in 4Hi with the rear diff locked.

    • @kevinstarski1598
      @kevinstarski1598 6 місяців тому

      I agree. He's a subbie fanboy... While I admittedly don't know that much about this truck but my thoughts are if you get kicked out 4low, the system should switch to 4 high...ending up in 2 wheel drive seems kinda crazy and dangerous really...@@hochhaul

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      @@kevinstarski1598 It can't switch to 4hi from 4lo while he's driving though. To accomplish that, it would have to force the truck to stop before disengaging low range and locking in 4hi.

  • @Moon222
    @Moon222 8 місяців тому +1

    Terrible "smart" protection on this GM truck. why does it keep disengaging?
    Im either getting the new Toyota Prado or Ford Timberline.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      No, the problem isn't the truck, it's the 80iq dunce behind the wheel that thinks it's the 1980's and you need 4-lo to make up for the tall gear ratios in 4-speed transmission. It's 2023, the truck has a 10-speed with a 4.70 first gear. This isn't a truck with a TH400 and a 2.48 first gear. You don't need 4-lo to climb muddy hills in 2023. The owners manually literally states that there is a speed limit for 4lo and that it will disengage if driven too fast. He has done this in multiple videos driving all kinds of GM trucks but for some reason he has never bothered to figure out what he's doing wrong.

    • @Moon222
      @Moon222 6 місяців тому

      ​​@@hochhaul you sure he is exceeding the speed limit?
      He showed 4L auto switching to 2WD while he was not doing anything.
      Plus it is general off-road knowledge that low gears require low speed (around 40mph), otherwise you damage it. Is that different for modern GM/all trucks?
      Where I live, if a vehicle is stuck in sand dunes, we crawl out by deflating tires to 14 PSI, switch to 4L, keep at low RPM while turning the wheel left and right.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      @@Moon222 The computer is looking at throttle position. Car and Driver caused the same thing to happen. This clown likes to try to climb hills without the rear locker locked and is, without a doubt, doing the old two-foot trick that guys with open diffs have to do to send power to the wheel with grip. He has his right foot applying >50% throttle and he's dragging the brake with the left to see if he can climb without engaging the rear locker. GM's computer guys programmed it so that if more than 50% throttle is commanded and the brakes are applied while in 40lo, it will disengage 4lo. He was doing the exact same r*tarded shit in the Colorado Bison. The whole group of Bisons were climbing fine while he boasted to the attendees that he was going to climb the hill without the lockers and while trying out terrain made in 4lo he said he was "two-footing it". Since it's a clutch based transfer case, too much throttle and brake can cause excessive wear that the engineers are trying to protect against.

  • @mikefoehr235
    @mikefoehr235 8 місяців тому

    Overuse of 4 auto can shorten and/or destroy the TCASE...this is why I think Toyota does not offer this. Nice color of blue. 4lo disengagement is pretty crappy. I think that's annoying.

  • @Zanderthelab
    @Zanderthelab 8 місяців тому

    Ps there is absolutely no reason for you to turn on the parking brake, unless you are parking it on the hill for a long period of time.

    • @Zanderthelab
      @Zanderthelab 6 місяців тому +1

      @@hochhaul the computer might not let him without shifting into neutral.

  • @treboy
    @treboy 8 місяців тому

    85k id just get a raptor at that point

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      Ford wants $60k for a regular F-150 XLT and almost every engine they use in the F-150 uses a rubber belt to turn the oil pump and requires pulling the timing chain to replace.... and those belts look like sht at 100k miles.

  • @matthewm3912
    @matthewm3912 8 місяців тому

    "proper overlanding machine"...It's wheelbase says otherwise.

  • @is6566
    @is6566 8 місяців тому +3

    Honestly, this whole unsolicited switching out of 4Low into 2WD business is a potential safety hazard. What if all this happened while you are on that muddy surface but instead of a relatively gentle hill, there is shelf road like couple hundred feet vertical drop on the left? Truck starts sliding to the left and you are desperately trying to keep it on the shelf road and because of the high stress situation you don’t even notice that you are not in 4WD anymore? That could lead to disaster.

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому +1

      No, the safety hazard is that he didn't bother to learn how the 4WD system works in GM trucks. He makes that painfully obvious every time he drives a ZR2 Silverado or a ZR2 Bison Colorado because he always uses the various modes incorrectly, causing the computer to have to intervene and drop it out of 4lo. In this case, in the mode he's in, the manual says it will drop out of 4lo if the computer senses excessive wheel speed. For his driving style, he would be better off in 4Hi with the rear diff locked.

    • @is6566
      @is6566 3 місяці тому

      Hmm. Ok. I didn’t know this behavior was expected and included in the manual. If this is indeed in the manual then I agree with you.

  • @laxmannate07
    @laxmannate07 6 місяців тому

    Median household income in the US $75k….

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      And Ford XLT's and Ram Big Horns are sitting on lots with $60k MSRP's. Welcome to Bidenomics.

  • @mickeybrumfield764
    @mickeybrumfield764 8 місяців тому

    There's just too much mud.

  • @Newguy56
    @Newguy56 4 місяці тому +1

    You whole way of thinking about intentionally spinning your tires is absolutely ridiculous. Just because you think it should be able to do it doesnt mean it is supposed to. 4 low is for crawling / climbing. 4 hi is for snow and higher speeds. Anyone who knows how to drive off road cringes watching you floor it in 4low "just to clean the tires." Watch Truck King as slow as possible as fast as necessary. Watch TFL TRUCK. Ive said it before you have absolutely no clue what you are doing Ryan.

  • @nicknamean
    @nicknamean 8 місяців тому

    85k to do what a 10k jeep can do with some bolt one? #hardpass…..and I won’t cry when a branch “scratches” my pristine paint

    • @hochhaul
      @hochhaul 6 місяців тому

      It might be different where you live, but all the $10k wranglers around here have huge rusted out holes in the floor pan, the frame rust rotted away like a 5 year old Tacoma, and the suspension is so shot that it death wobbles every time you hit a hairline crack in the pavement.

  • @06XTOR
    @06XTOR 8 місяців тому

    Sweet truck but not worth the price tag...

  • @ljgaming8774
    @ljgaming8774 Місяць тому

    Driver error! Truck protected it's self and your owner's pocket.

    • @drivingsports
      @drivingsports  Місяць тому

      It’s an issue unique to Chevy. Read this: www.caranddriver.com/features/a39850302/chevy-silverado-zr2-4wd-off-mystery/

  • @whoawoahh
    @whoawoahh 8 місяців тому

    Peepee

  • @magniarot
    @magniarot 8 місяців тому

    Most people could need afford to get four new tires on this truck. 85k? Good luck with that

  • @Ultrarunner41
    @Ultrarunner41 5 місяців тому +1

    Come on!
    That trail is weak ass! 🙄
    Bring it to Moab Utah and test it here. You’ll get a much accurate capability test

    • @strix9013
      @strix9013 4 місяці тому +1

      I was surprised there aren't more comments like this. This is the most basic of basic trails. His "boulders" are pebbles.

  • @edwardbughiuc100
    @edwardbughiuc100 8 місяців тому

    paddle shift pick up truck....what,no grande macchiato with two shots of vanilla?