The 2023 Chevy Silverado ZR2 Bison Handles DEEP Mud in the Colorado Backcountry, For a STEEP Price!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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Andre takes the all-new 2023 Chevy Silverado ZR2 AEV Bison off-road to see how capable Chevy's best off-road truck really is.
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Thank you for picking up other people’s trash off the trails. The world needs more people like y’all; sad that people trash up such a beautiful place
Very impressed with that.
What do you mean trash?
AEV Rocks the Rocks & Snow when it Counts with the Chevy Bison Line Up! Keep Up the Good Work AEV!
Truck looks good, performs good. Maybe in another life I'll be able to enjoy luxurious things like this. If not, oh well. Andre is still a good enough host to listen to while I eat my morning breakfast to go to a job that doesn't pay me enough to have adult toys.
Awesome truck! Now if they could find a way to make it affordable so most of us could actually consider it…haha I actually disagree about it needing to be wider tho. Being slimmer allows you to take it on more trails. Some trucks like the raptor and TRX, while great in the desert, are way too wide for the average trail. Great video as always!!!
Exactly.. the high speed demands wider track for stability
It's a Chevy brother they're never going to be "affordable" mechanic bills are only going up 🤣🤣🤣
@@awesomeness369more affordable than any ford.
Shit I’d rather take a dodge cause it’s actually infuriating how unsafe the fords that have broken down have left us in the street.
Only good thing they do is truck and Shelby but even then there is Toyota , Chevy and dodge also on those departments
I have to give the capabilities of this GM respect. In this environment, it was the right tool for the job. The GC, the front and rear lockers and the cameras were good. The increased GC is a sure fire way of helping a GM product live a few months longer if it is not scraping along. Oh, and the exhaust pipes @ 10:44 nicely done. I hate to admit, this is 1 of the rare moments that I have been impressed with a GM in a long time. Would be interesting to see how much time it spends in the shop over the next 3-10 years and what it was in for.
With 35 or even better, 37 inch wheels it wouldn't have touched anything. Thanks for the video and for keeping clean the environment, everyone should do what you did.
Would be better if everyone did not dump on the trails to begin with so nobody has to be doing clean up. 😉
@@WW-wf8tu Correct, but as you can see there are people who don't care, so someone else have to do that, even if it's not fair.
Wider is not better on trails. Good job GM.
Exactly
Great truck, stratospheric price tag. Diesel option will make it even better. It would be nice if a proper winch was part of this top-of-the-line kit.
Great video Andre. Thanks for putting the Silverado ZR2 Bison to the Test. 85k seems fair for all that technology and off road goodies!
You made that trail look simple like going up the hill out at my parent's backyard! Who needs a rator or ttrex and the crazy high price just to struggle driving through the Home depot parking lot hitting the carts everyone leaves on the way!😅
First off, Great review and testing, Andre and TFL crew. Love seeing this truck off-roading.
In my opinion, this truck doesn’t need a wide stance of a city bus like the TRX and Raptor. Won’t work in mountainous terrain.
The 33 in. tires are just as good, even better, than the taller tires. The 33s can do handle both on and off road unlike the bigger tires that are great off road but not great on with poor handling, ride comfort and noise levels, and fuel economy plus the possibility of rubbing the inside of the wheel well.
I agree the price is high, but what you get is fantastic. The lockers, the cameras and the cool AEV gear. I know the ZR2 doesn’t compete with the two so-called Super Trucks, but it will keep up and surpass them when it comes to Rocky Mountain terrain.
If I had the money, I get this exact truck but in Sandstone Metallic. Keep up the great work, TFL.
THANKS ANDRE .... AND CAMERA NINJA ALEX ... 👏👏👏....HOPE EVERYBODY HAS A BEAUTIFUL DAY ✌️
Waaaaaaayyyy too much money for that truck. And to think that car prices only go up, sadly. Thanks for the review Andre!
It will be surprising if they sell many of these. A regular ZR2 has all the important mechanical upgrades. Some boron skids and different wheels, you REALLY have to be a fan of the Bison branding to throw that cash down.
I have a Non Bison ZR2 and it is an Extremely capable truck. And a pleasant daily driver. Except for the mileage.
IT's still an actual better off-road truck than any full size truck due to the front lockers alone.
Absolutely
When is GM gonna quit mounting the rear shocks so low below the axle? Other than that one thing I love the GM tucks.
They FINALLY changed it on the new Colorado ZR2 haha
I think it requires some significant reworking of the frame and bed, which is why only when redesigning a whole new model like the Colorado did they finally make it so that the shocks had enough travel without hanging Dow too low.
I agree. That design flaw always bothered me and deterred me from buying a GM truck.
@Andre and @Alex thank you for the review and most importantly cleaning the trail as you went along.
The fuel tank is ridiculous though, they should put the 28-gal (from short cab w/ 8ft bed) one in all Silverado/Sierra. Still not as good has Ford's 36-gal but 4 gallon extra would be better.
I'm really lovin' the vid on actual trails! Keep 'em comin' !
The only high speed running will be picking up the kids at school, Target, and Chick Fil A runs.
Nothing new. Almost all Range Rovers never go off road even though they'd handle the conditions very well...
Add a lift and tires to stubby and you'll go just as far as the $85k Buffalo.
These GM off-road oriented trucks are really looking great.. the low payload, just makes sense to go with a heavy duty though.. 4 buddies alone weigh 1000 lbs.
I think these Skid plates could be made of UHMW plastic.. save a ton of weight and $$$$.. like the jet boats use
A bigger gas tank would be nice 24 gallons are in some SUVs I think the other competition haves bigger ones. Even on the hd's
For what you'd pay to get the Bison package, you could possibly get a decent set of coilovers, some UCA'S, and some good wheels/tires to end up outperforming the Bison offroad.
You know what would be great is if they gave people the ability to pick the options they want instead of making a hundred "different special" sub models that have 10 to 30 thousand dollar price hikes.
Yeah the custom trail boss comes with only a 7 inch screen. But if you want to upgrade to the 11 its not an option you have to go up in trim level. So then you have to get the LT trail boss. So thats like 7 grand just for a bigger screen! you can buy a 11 inch tablet for like $150-$900 but you have to go up in trim level that doesnt really add much at all. Think it says bigger screen and different wheels. The LT allows you to get the 6.2 engine but all that should have been an option in the basic trail boss. So you go up and its like $10 15 grand then you still want like $10k in options your looking at a $70k truck just to add options. Upping trim levels is a scam. They should just allow to option out the basic trailboss with everything.
My Dad was right when He said that 4 wheel drive is for when You get stuck in Two wheel drive. Of course when We went Deer hunting He would climb the steep hills of Marin County with His old Willy’s Jeep Pick Up. They were rugged looking with those military type fender’s. We have had Fords and Chevy’s and still do but I really like the old military Dodge weapon’s carrier or the civilian model Power wagon that looks like a WW2 military ambulance or WW2 Chevy. Having a narrower vehicle has definite advantages especially in Bay Area California where people park on very narrow roads like those on the slopes of Mount Tamalpais and surrounding area’s . The fire department can get away with smashing cars that choke down roads but not the general public. Also keep in mind that wide offset wheels are hard on axle spindles and bearings . Those bigger tires cost more and need more power to turn them causing more fuel consumption and loss of extended range. Loose a wheel and tire on the freeway or roll over while traversing a side slope and You better have a very good attorney because You might just be charged with manslaughter. Break something in the middle of nowhere or a rugged place and a lot of recovery operators may refuse the work or charge a hefty fee. Abandon the vehicle without a guard snd there are those out there who will strip it of everything.
I want to see your Colorado trail boss do it Andre. Bring stubby see if it can do it. It stinks that you can’t use your rear locker unless you are in 4 low hope they change that.
Dream truck
6:07. Andre, at 6:07 +/~ you say you’re taking a super difficult line and I noticed the front passenger tire slip and turn faster than the front driver tire. I saw that you locked front and rear so is it a true locker or limited slip in the front?
Needs 35's to nail it. Great Review Andre :)
Only $125k out the door! With 10% APR!
Chevy is running a 1.9% financing
There's no way that's 11.2 inches of clearance at the rear diff and shock mounts
Had my trail boss in in serious mud last weekend…. Pulled my ATV’s on trailer through deep mud and water cresting over my hood 😮…. Put it in low 4 and plowed through it….
Great video! That “trash can lid” looked more like a portable toilet seat lid 😅
nice looking truck, works really well
For fast desert runs I'll take a UTV Side by side 4seater,technical Offroading,this Chevy Silverado ZR2 Bison or Ford f150 Tremor, the Ford Raptor/R & Ram TRX for everyday driving.
Que bella esa Camioneta luce Candela muy bien se ve que es fuerte
Once again great review Andre, & once again Chevrolet is two steps behind their competition with the smaller tires.
I really appreciate you cleaning up someone else's trash, i hate to see people that abuse & just don't care about our beautiful planet.
The truck seams to be doing better then the jeep gladiator you guys had
Such a good looking truck. It is an animal!
They have GOT to redesign those lower rear shock mounts. Glad to see they did it on the Colorado ZR2. Of course for $85k I don't have to worry about it.
Looks and sounds great I just wish it had a heavier load advantage and ofc prices are high but other than that it sounds like a great truck
I see room for a bigger fuel tank. Besides elockers n fancy shocks.
The Colorado zr2 looks to be better featured ritch options
That is a good looking truck. I can never afford it 😢
I love this truck. But my 2014 Platinum FX4 gets me everywhere I want to go, and I own it. Hard to justify spending $100k
Thanks for cleaning up the trash gents. Nice truck for sure, but I would be sweating damage at that price.
I got a job where I’ll be making over 100k in 3 years and this is on my list of potential trucks to buy 😮
So you’re planning on buying a truck that’s as much as your yearly salary? This is the problem with American consumerism lol
@@macbookpro57 I mean I’ll probably save a good down payment and I won’t buy anything over 70k. I never said I was planning paying over 100k for a vehicle. You just thought I did. I’ll probably more than like buy lightly used.
The 3.0 diesel has a few modules available that pump specs to 350hp and 530lbft.. and eventually Banks will get their top class Derringer out for similar gains and more
Let’s be real, that’s going to be $100k out the door. All these new “off road” trucks nowadays are just pavement princesses.
I'd rather spend an ACTUAL 85k on a brand new Raptor 37 with all the bells and whistles, heated/cooled seats, and an extra 30 hp and 50 lb/ft, plus it gets better fuel economy 😌
Don't know about the mpgs but sure
@@awesomeness369Yea you’re not getting better fuel eco on those 37s. lol
@awesomeness3699 you really think that Raptor will get better MPG's on 37" tires?
@@richfarfugnuven6308 well judging what the EPA rates a Raptor 37 for 18/24 I'd say yes 💀
Really wish auto makers would allow you to select front and rear separately instead of just rear or both.
Gotta love the v8 but for 85k omg next
35’s should fit. GM just has an aversion to big tires.
Colorado ZR2 Bison will have 35's ????
Would love to see a comparison with the 2500 HD ZR2 6.6L gas engine and the 1500 ZR2 6.2L and in the future 3.0L Diesel engine compared to the 2500 HD 6.6L gas
As I said to others, this truck is made for off-road rock crawling, hence why Chevy didn't go with a supercharged V8
There’s no such thing as an IFS truck made for rock crawling.
True
Beautiful truck. Good review guys.
I would swap those 285's for 33x12.50 ridge grapplers.
Anyone who wants to whine about the price, consider this, the Ford Bronco Raptor edition costs over $100K everywhere I looked. The ZR2 is going for about $71-75K wherever I looked. I'll take a $25K price difference any day...
Is it better than a Raptor 37?
@ 3:50 - 4:06 - 33" tire / no tire big enough......exactly correct. All the new off-road type of trucks should roll off the assembly line with 35" tires and offer 37" tires as an option. Glad I have a 2022 Ford F350 Lariat Tremor.....great payload and towing ability and IMO more capable off-road than the Chevrolet ZR2 or GMC AT4X.
I remember when steel bumpers came standard on vehicles lol
Wider is not better! Why buy an off road truck that can fit on any of the trails.
It’s a lifestyle vehicle like the Bronco. Made to look good and make the driver look like a rugged adventurer while parked at Trader Joe’s.
Ironically, the manufacturers are finally bringing a bunch of serious off-roaders (instead of plastic poser packs), but at a time when no one can afford them. If they had taken this approach 5 years ago and priced them between 45,000 - 55,000 they would have been selling like hotcakes. 85K is just too much for most buyers and then, after spending 85K, how many can afford to risk taking it on the sorts of trails that it deserves. In 10 years, these will be a fun used proposition for 12K.
Took one to the construction site, in deep mud, it’s been raining for 24 hours… I almost got stuck… idk if I would have with my 2023 raptor
Down here this is by far the choice of trucks. If i lived out west with wide open desert I'd want a wider stance and more power.
Did you replace the electric steering rack after crossing the water? Usually the motor becomes faulty and loosing the steering ..I have already replaced it for my 2015 silverado.. headache
I waaaaaant it! I hope you guys test the 2500hd zr2.
Good video thank you
1k payload 😳
The background music was a bit too much in this video. Seemed louder than normal.
For off roading this is way better than TRX or raptor...they are just meant for performance
I feel like the zr2 and gm are still missing something to not go all after market instead of factory.
Bison has great upgrade that bout it
It can stay your chev’s lot for that price. All this auto makers are nuts with pricing. Anything over 50k is to much for anyone to pay.
Did they announce the tire size for the 2024 ZR2 Bison? Really needs to be 35s at the very least
It's strange. The new Colorado bison and gmc canyon will have 35s
@@jonshields437 They're just better off-roaders. Not a single person I wheel with is running a full size rig.
A 1000 lb payload really kills this vehicle as a truck. It really needs to be at around 1500 even with all the stuff on it. This means the standard ZR2 is I think the better truck because while yes the armor is better on the Bison the benefits it provides is less than the cost of the payload and not to mention the cost of the vehicle itself since you can easily save 8-12k on the price going with a standard ZR2.
Is GM shipping their trucks with a spare set of lifters and a camshaft now?
Get the diesel no issues also they pair the 5.3 with the weak 8 speed.
Where's the Mud dammit? 😂
I’ve been click bated, that’s not deep mud, thats deep dirty water!!
Wait for the duramax. Worth it
I LOVE my ZR2 1500 but the fact it has no underbody but the colorado does put a sour taste in my mouth....AND they want $6700 for the Bison bumper at my dealer........I could go aftermarket but I haven't found anyone that will offer one with a winch mount as well
Whatever happened to the Raptor R you guys bought?
So when will the AEV bumpers be available for non Bison Silverados?
I test drove the bison a few days ago, very nice vehicle! I’ve been holding out on purchasing any of the midsize trucks like Gladiator rubicon or Colorado because they’re just too small for 4 guys to go on a trip in.
I find it bizarre how Chevy could release a truck of this size with a play load of 200-600 pounds less than the gladiator rubicon, Tacoma TRD Pro etc. with it being quite a bit bigger than the other trucks.
You’d hit your payload quota with 4 guys sitting in it before you’ve even fitted a roof top tent and packed your bags.
I don’t see the point of having such a large and capable off-road vehicle when the payload limits it even more than it’s other smaller and more capable competitor like a gladiator rubicon, makes the bison a bit redundant before it even hit the streets in my opinion.
The extra weight of everything reduces payload. Also softer/plusher springs for off road reduce load carrying. Probably has to do with DOT/legal too. They have to stay under a certain GVWR.
They have a HD Zr2 coming as well with 4K lbs of payload.
@@TobyCostaRica - I’m sure there are those factors. And yet you have something considerably larger than the Gladiator/Tacoma with a lower payload than them. So it just doesn’t make much sense for me as I’d rather go with a more capable 4x4 like the gladiator rubicon as I’m only going to be able to fit myself and a passenger with luggage in either it or the bison.
Best truck... not even close
So my thing with chevy is that they haven’t built a super truck since the 2000s with the SS… that being said even tho Ram and Ford do have 700+ hp… they can’t do what this truck is doing in this video… having that much power, low range is extremely punchy even still. Chevy knows where it’s at when you need to go somewhere. They know that powering 700 hp over huge rocks and 3 foot cliffs ain’t gonna work. I still wish they’d make a super truck with crazy power yes, but this truck is so cool!!!
35s fit?
When are you going to take your RaptorR on this trail?
Need this in a two door or scab short bed. 1k payload pretty much defeats the purpose unless you are just using it to take the family to olive garden or get groceries.
Are those little bitty holes in the recovery points okay for most hooks & whatnot?
Always wanting bigger tires seems to be your theme. We know bigger tire adds unsprung weight and I wonder if a 35 inch spare would fit under the truck? Great package and like all loaded up trucks the cost is getting rather exclusive and that's the whole business of truck toys...imo.
Yes, a 35 would fit.
The steps under the headlights are to help you fix your broken down Chevy....😂
Hey Andrea take your new gm up there to.
Looks good to me
Will they be shipped to Australia 🇦🇺
So which one's better strictly for off-roading, this one or the Colorado ZR2 Bison?
I've never like Chevy exterior or interior until this new design. That's a good looking and jist as capable truck!!!! But I won't buy one bc that price is sick. Add what, 5k more for the diesel?
DEEP **Puddle**
Once again GM can’t put a proper sized tire on their trucks. 33 inch tires don’t cut it for what this thing costs. So an $80k truck needs suspension mods and tires right from the factory. No thanks. I’d rather just buy a used Silverado and go to to Baja Kits or Dirt King for one of their long travel lift kits and have a much better truck.
You would definitely have a higher truck, and a cheaper truck, but probably not a better trail truck.
What’s better about this truck than an aftermarket long travel kit that fits a 35 to 37 inch tire, has more durable ball joints and A arms, and has far more suspension travel?
@@holdenc3082 The factory e-lockers are important. I’m with ya though a used truck with mods would be dramatically cheaper and built to user preference.
@@JsGarage I knew someone would mention lockers. A rear ARB air locker is $1200 plus about $600 for the compressor. Granted they aren’t available yet for this model year but are available for 2014 to 2019 Silverados which is where I’d be looking anyway. I could write a check for one of these trucks new if I wanted to, but I can get more value and build a better truck by buying lightly used and building through the aftermarket. $85k for this truck on sad 33” tires is crazy.
@@holdenc3082 More lift and travel, I get it. What about the shaft & axle angles, lockers, skids, active suspension modes, drive modes, rear shock mount position etc? Just lifting a normal truck up real high and putting real tall tires on it doesn’t turn it into a ground-up sport vehicle with more modularity and upbuild potential. The people at Trader Joe’s wouldn’t like yours any more than the other.
That was a joke 🤣 Lighten up, Francis.
Thanks 👍 for picking up the trash 🗑️.....
You guys need to start using driver and passenger instead of right and left.
Why anyone would pay this kind of money for a truck with crappy ground clearance and 33" tires is beyond me.
How big are the tremor tires?
Tremor has 33'. Bigger are great but all has pros and cons. Recall 717 speed breaking tie rods on a Raptor awhile ago. Bigger tires does add weight. All has to upgraded because not everyone a pro. That was the excuse when he broke tie rods on such Raptor.
@@jeffwill4923 yes.
Tremor HD has 35" tires. Raptor is available with 37" tires.
You say the Bison has a slightly larger tire than the standard ZR2? From what I've researched they both come with 275/70/18 Goodyear Wrangler MT's. Can you confirm or deny this please.