It’s true. This period of Mexican history is not in our school books 📚. I am a native Mexican, lived 30 years there and know next to nothing about this.
It's kinda crazy. I am a Californian born and raised...and in school we learned virtually nothing about the Mexican revolution and the period following.
I teach Mexican History to Mexican students (in Mexico City) ;) The "Cristiada" is not a topic included in the National High School Curriculum, which has a Socialist agenda, but I always find some time to teach it. We were right in the middle of the topic when I saw the trailer on UA-cam. What a great coincidence! Although my students are not very instructed in religion, they were genuinely interested. I'm glad to see I've been able to plant a good seed on them through History and its martyrs.
The Irish Free State were the first country to break diplomatic relations with the Calles government because of the suppression of Catholicism... Echoing the the San Patricio brigade containing many Irishmen who fought in the Mexico American war because of the outrage against catholic Mexico.
I studied in Mexico, and I had a topic on Cristeros I still remember my teacher screaming to me about Calles Perhaps is generational I read somewhere that the PAN gave power to the Catholic church in the 2000s so perhaps they reintroduced those topics after 2000s in the history books
I miss when Bishop barron did movie reviews.......i only saw this movie tonight, 12 years after its original release. And thats because i only heard about it earlier this week. The media over here(uk & Ireland) did a great job keeping any information about this movie away from the general public.
Awesome word, Pastor! I can hear your passion for Christ in your voice. Every generation will be tested and proven, the enemy always tries to destroy the faith of God's people. Whether by misinformation or by murder. But through Jesus we all are saved. Vivo Cristo El Rey! Long Live Christ the King!
In Cleveland, Ohio the movie was shown in limited theaters at 9:45pm at night which meant that you got out at midnight. Because we all work,we finally had the chance to go this weekend. THE MOVIE IS GONE! Only one theater in the whole state of ohio still has the movie. That theater is in Columbus, Ohio which is a 2 1/2 hour drive. I feel that was intentional on the part of those who are trying to block the general public from seeing this movie which displays" the Truth ".
Jesus said that if you love your mother and father more than me you are not worthy of me. Of you love your sons and daughters more than me you are not worthy of me. Don't worry I believe your great grandfather made a good choice
Today, tomorrow, and Monday, Jose Sanchez del Rio relics will be here in San Antonio for veneration. Pastoral center. If you’re reading this September 14th 2019 don’t hesitate come to San Antonio to venerate the Saint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw the movie recently and it inspired me to fight for religious freedom and to stop trying to be politically correct. I am no longer willing to stand there while my Catholic beliefs are repressed by modernism, atheism and political correctness.
At that time was the first time communism wanted to enter to Mexico, we have been fighting against it for 70 years. And we won dear father, we won, the Catholics of this country!!
@@jaredquinonez51 the late Edward Albee had the right idea to answering your REVOLTING post. Every man we catch cross our Southern border, we should feed, care for and instruct in arms, before giving them a rifle and plenty of ammo and send them back across the border. Those hombres will know what to do to that Oligarchy in Mexico City.
@@jaredquinonez51 Mhm, and I am sure that your jealous romanticism would have done superbly. Honestly, have you experienced Communism? Or have you manifested it in your day to day practices? History reveals a person's morals. You've also shown to be a violent person by living the error in your own life, which is to say you have admitted that you would have happily killed a group of persons fighting back against persecution.
I love it! I just finished watching it today and it's the best Christian and war movie ever made! Wow, I'm surprised this is not even talked much about at all!
And thats is why is good to remember the good kings that knew they were but subjects to the true King, Jesus. Such as Saint Louis of France, a true exemple of human king that serves God and unfortunately is forgotten by a lot of people today.
I watched this film in a theather Hillsboro Oregon probably 5 yrs ago, I am not Mexican but, I was very moved for it, I commented with some Mexicans friends of mine,nobody knew nothing about it, how can be possible they don't know this important part of the history of their Country? Apparently it is not teach in their schools
I saw this movie recently, I didn't know anything about this period of the Mexican history. One of the posted comments said that everything that happened during that time has been wiped out of the Mexican history books, which means the new generations don't know anything about it.
Your teaching is smooth and remarkable, Father! One constructive criticism, however: the Church has always canonized the Martyrs not necessarily because of their philosophy of nonviolence, but rather, because of their unrelenting Witness to Christ and their sacrificial devotion united to Christ's. There is such a thing as defending the honor of the poor and defenseless through arms, via just war; such is noble, virtuous and supremely Catholic.
Father good luck with your new assignment at the seminary, and please please keep posting videos. I'm sure it'll be tough and you'll be busy enough, but this is good stuff and does a lot of good, keep it up!
When I was in college we had to read Graham Green'es The Power ant the Glory which is based in the same period as the Cristeros. It left a deep impression on me. The final scene is the book is the vision of the Cross which is presented to the anti-hero, the whisky priest.
What is your opinion on the mass killings of Catholics in the Vendee that were committed by the anti-religious/irreligious/anti-clerical French Revolutionary government? If you have one...
the Church in governance and shepherding, while also declaring that all must take up their crosses and follow His example of self-sacrificial love toward God and men. He is complex, and His teachings and instructions are complex; it's important, I think, to not reduce that complexity, but to embrace it. For example, Matthew 16:17-19, Matthew 18:18-19, and Matthew 23:1-2 are, in Rabbinical terminology, justification by Christ for the authoritative regulation of the Church.
While I am completely aware that UA-cam is a difficult forum to have a full discussion on, and at the risk of sounding over-simplistic (I'm not; I understand there are further nuances to this issue) I would say that to characterize the message of Jesus as totally passive and nonviolent, to the exclusion of both opposition to the general world at large, and the regulation of the creed of Christians, is to ignore the wonderful complexity of the Person of Jesus and His Gospel.
Thank you for this video Father Barron! I don't hear a lot of Catholic priests talking about nonviolence. Could you do a video about what the Church teaches about nonviolent resistence and recommend some good books about it? I tried looking for Catholic books that talk about this subject, but I couldn't find any.
I enjoy your videos. I would like to see a video on which you address the Nag Hammadi Codex. Gnostic texts that are even disregarded in religious debate shows such as The Big Question in the U.K. You are a smart man who knows what you're talking about philosophically, morally and humbly. As a Gnostic, I would really like to hear your take on the followers of St. John, The origins of Heaven from the Greek Elesian Fields, and your take on Luke 19:27. Thank you Father Barron
the video appears a bit blurry and pixelated at times. Your words come out crystal clear, we only ask that your video does as well. Awesome video by the way Father.
Catholic thought is a particular Christian way of being that tends to sweep very many concepts and ideas into harmony and wholeness - even paradoxical ones. I can't get into a serious and long debate on two separate ethical systems, or how to harmonize the various aspects of justice, regulation, and self-sacrifice; I shall leave that to wiser minds than mine. But at the very least, I can say with full assurance, Christ Himself gives precedent for the regulation of the beliefs and practices of
You're right! Blessed Charlemagne king of the Franks, St. Oswald king of Northumbria, St. Edmund the martyr king, St. Louis and St. Bernard were all great warrior saints not to mention all of the holy warriors in the Old Testament, Joshua, Samson, David and Gideon! "The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name."-Ex. 15:3, we should be crusaders of justice, not a bunch of Gandhi following pacifists!
Awesome commentary! I knew Christ the King is an element of the Faith but never considered how deep the typology was outside the Davidic line in the OT. It makes me think how God first resisted the Israelites' request for a before conceding and having Saul anointed. I thought the photographing of the execution of Bl. Miguel Pro was first ordered by the got'v as an act of intimidation, and then backfired?
Thank you for this video. I read somewhere that JP the Great beatified/etc. those who who did not fight (as you said), while Pope B XVI did beatify some who did fight. Also see AOTM (argument of the month) media page for great talk on Christero war.
I get Fr Barron's point that those who were canonized were the martyrs, and not the soldiers. But what alternative did the ordinary people in Mexico have? It seems to me that either they (i) resisted using armed forces, or (ii) were slaughtered wholesale, or else (iii) give up the practice of their religion. Given those choices, choice (i) looks best. What else are us Catholics supposed to do in the face of oppression, allow ourselves to be pushed around?
@urpleurple I can't answer for Fr. B, but I can offer some idea as to the question. In Catholic thought, it seems to me there is a distinction between how one acts toward the world and all of its varied injustice and evil, and how one self-regulates one's community. The Church is not the world, nor is the world the Church.
It's only in 360p, while the standard these days is more 720p. It really isn't a big deal at all though, commentaries do not require the viewer to be able to see with microscopic detail :)
To be a Martyr or to be like Christ and to absorb injustice from the world and triumph over it is a far cry from allowing the identity of your believed Divine society - namely, the Church - to perishing due to an inflow of contrary ideas. To canonize or declare the beatitude of all opposing viewpoints is to cease to be objectively the Church in a sort of institutional suicide.
Father despite cherished British movie star Peter O'Toole playing a major role, the British media have decided to keep maliciously silent about this movie. Not one mention of it during Cannes. I can only imagine BBC film reviewers horror when confronted with the decision to review the film. "I say chaps, have you heard? Peter O'Tooe is starring in a film about Catholics....guess what?...it's on their side!" "oh dear, oh dear, whatever next! best pretend it hasn't happened"
Father, I must take a rare exception with you on one point, and that is that there is a place and time for violence. You are certainly aware of the Church's stand on "Just War". Had the Mexican peasants not risen up against the evil government, the Church would have been crushed! Had the allies in WWII not faced the axis, what would the outcome have been?
When Spanish civil war happened in 1936, happened the same... Franco upraised against a communist republic which was persecuting and killing thousands of Catholics.
Man, I wanna watch this, but it has spoilers....And I'm really looking forward to watching the movie and I don't want it to be ruined. Ugh...choices, choices, choices...
The movie seems emotionally stirring . And why is it that everything that starts off with good eventually turns into the evil that it stood against ? Two thousand years later and the Catholic Church and all others are rife with intrigue ,scandal , greed for gold and oppression of those who question for truth .
Jesus promised that the Catholic Church will not be destroyed by the forces of evil, but He never promised it would continue in North America. If we are lax, African and Asian Catholics will have to come in and re-evangelize this continent. Come to think if it, we could use that now (at least it wouldn't hurt) :)
ce film est quasiment l'histoire aussi des catholiques durant les année 1793 à 1796 en france durant la révolution française qui ont été persécuté pour leurs foi et massacré par milliers par la république française
In this case, it was because they were not fighting for power, but for religious freedom. I hate any type of war, but there are times where a person has to fight for their freedom.
I loved Peter O'Toole's character. It was by far the best bit of my movie. He really reminded me of Fulton Sheen. I seem to be one of the few Catholics who didn't like this movie. I didn't feel that the Gospel or the Church were well presented. I felt the movie didn't explain the background to the movie, it moved far too quickly to violence and seemed to indulge in it.
Fr Pro did not yell VIVA CRISTO REY, read the book by Br. Muller, C.S.C. who interviewed the sister of Fr. Pro. These are words but on the lips of Fr. Pro.
I went to public school in the seventies graduated 1976 and took a class at Artesia High school in Lakewood ca. I was offered a class “Mexican American history” was taught by Mr Hoya and learned of the cristeros. These classes were taken away when the Reagan administration implemented “no child left behind” now I see so many many children that are in poverty being left behind more than ever That’s socialist!
Bishop Barron you should get down on your knees and ask Gods forgiveness for trying to "quiet" dedicated true Catholic priests who are preaching Gods words and Not following what man or especially the devil wants. I'm nobody but refuse to follow this political party that's in office now and listen to anyone who thinks its ok to follow people just because they hold some sort of high standing. You can't follow man and Jesus. You must make a choice and sadly you've shown who and what You are choosing and its Not God Our Heavenly Father. I'll pray for you to come to your senses and follow God in Jesus Name I pray Amen 🙏. †
Its ok but Im from the cold war era and I would love to believe in faith in peace to and hope for it someday but we didnt have that luxury during WWII and afterward. We were warned by the Blessed Mother it would come and yet we ignored the warning to our detriment. Yes it probably moved to quickly to violence but it also gave some truth to the violence of this time. A violence against Christians still imbibed by nations today who do not respect Christian peace/eithics today. Maybe Im wrong.
Que Dios bendiga a nuestro presidente estadounidense y patriota estadounidense Donald John Trump y nosotros somos los polacos estadounidenses siempre los más trabajadores.
Personally I thought PROMETHEUS was awful.Besides the movie itself being a clunky mess, it has a very irresolute, wishy-washy understanding of Catholicism. A lot of the fault lies with Damon Lindelof, whose contributions to the tv show LOST demonstrate the same flaky grasp on Christian belief.
This movie made me shed a few tears. My great grandfather also was a cristero and got killed during this war
It’s about to happen again in the USA.
@@OfftoShambala I believe that too.
@@OfftoShambala I fear you may be right. What a disaster we’ve become!
God bless you!
I know. Most Americans just aren't told about this period.
Bishop, thank you for your witness as a bishop and shepherd--it is badly needed.
It’s true. This period of Mexican history is not in our school books 📚. I am a native Mexican, lived 30 years there and know next to nothing about this.
Blood-Drenched Altars by Kelly
It's kinda crazy. I am a Californian born and raised...and in school we learned virtually nothing about the Mexican revolution and the period following.
Thanks for spreading this information. Us rebels call the federal soldiers pelones by the way
Viva Cristo Rey y Santa Maria Guadalupe!
VIVA!!!
I teach Mexican History to Mexican students (in Mexico City) ;) The "Cristiada" is not a topic included in the National High School Curriculum, which has a Socialist agenda, but I always find some time to teach it. We were right in the middle of the topic when I saw the trailer on UA-cam. What a great coincidence! Although my students are not very instructed in religion, they were genuinely interested. I'm glad to see I've been able to plant a good seed on them through History and its martyrs.
As a born Mexican thank you
The Irish Free State were the first country to break diplomatic relations with the Calles government because of the suppression of Catholicism... Echoing the the San Patricio brigade containing many Irishmen who fought in the Mexico American war because of the outrage against catholic Mexico.
@@Kitiwake thanks brother this is important information
I studied in Mexico, and I had a topic on Cristeros
I still remember my teacher screaming to me about Calles
Perhaps is generational
I read somewhere that the PAN gave power to the Catholic church in the 2000s so perhaps they reintroduced those topics after 2000s in the history books
Update: José is now a canonized saint!
I miss when Bishop barron did movie reviews.......i only saw this movie tonight, 12 years after its original release. And thats because i only heard about it earlier this week. The media over here(uk & Ireland) did a great job keeping any information about this movie away from the general public.
Long Live Christ, The King✝️♥️🙏🇵🇭🇲🇽
Prior to this film, I'd never learned of this period in history. Pretty scarey! Great commentary, Fr. Barron!!!
Viva Cristo Rey! Viva La Virgen De Guadalupe!
Que viva!
Awesome word, Pastor! I can hear your passion for Christ in your voice. Every generation will be tested and proven, the enemy always tries to destroy the faith of God's people. Whether by misinformation or by murder. But through Jesus we all are saved. Vivo Cristo El Rey! Long Live Christ the King!
¡Viva Cristo Rey!
Viva Cristo Rey
In Cleveland, Ohio the movie was shown in limited theaters at 9:45pm at night which meant that you got out at midnight. Because we all work,we finally had the chance to go this weekend. THE MOVIE IS GONE! Only one theater in the whole state of ohio still has the movie. That theater is in Columbus, Ohio which is a 2 1/2 hour drive. I feel that was intentional on the part of those who are trying to block the general public from seeing this movie which displays" the Truth ".
praying for you Father!!! Your Catholicism series was absolutely phenomenal!!!
Thanks for this, Excellency! And also, your Spanish pronunciation is on point!
Thank you father, keep up the fabulous work, and God bless you.
VIVA CRISYO REY!!!
Viva que!
Thank you Father Barron. I love your videos and I learn so much!!!
My great grandfather was a Cristero but ironically one of my great uncles was a Federal.
Jesus said that if you love your mother and father more than me you are not worthy of me. Of you love your sons and daughters more than me you are not worthy of me. Don't worry I believe your great grandfather made a good choice
Wey, las reuniones familiares en el otro mundo deben de estar cabronas
Today, tomorrow, and Monday, Jose Sanchez del Rio relics will be here in San Antonio for veneration. Pastoral center. If you’re reading this September 14th 2019 don’t hesitate come to San Antonio to venerate the Saint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I saw the movie recently and it inspired me to fight for religious freedom and to stop trying to be politically correct. I am no longer willing to stand there while my Catholic beliefs are repressed by modernism, atheism and political correctness.
Amen!🙏
At that time was the first time communism wanted to enter to Mexico, we have been fighting against it for 70 years. And we won dear father, we won, the Catholics of this country!!
But the Cresteros were all martyr which is what we must all do for The Church to live on.
Viva Cristo Rey y Santa Maria Guadalupe!
Communism would've been better. The cristeros are terrorist, and would be put to death if I was president of Mexico during the time.
@@jaredquinonez51 the late Edward Albee had the right idea to answering your REVOLTING post. Every man we catch cross our Southern border, we should feed, care for and instruct in arms, before giving them a rifle and plenty of ammo and send them back across the border. Those hombres will know what to do to that Oligarchy in Mexico City.
@@jaredquinonez51 Mhm, and I am sure that your jealous romanticism would have done superbly. Honestly, have you experienced Communism? Or have you manifested it in your day to day practices? History reveals a person's morals. You've also shown to be a violent person by living the error in your own life, which is to say you have admitted that you would have happily killed a group of persons fighting back against persecution.
Father thank you so much for this! :)
I love it! I just finished watching it today and it's the best Christian and war movie ever made! Wow, I'm surprised this is not even talked much about at all!
Absolutely beautiful
And thats is why is good to remember the good kings that knew they were but subjects to the true King, Jesus. Such as Saint Louis of France, a true exemple of human king that serves God and unfortunately is forgotten by a lot of people today.
I watched this film in a theather Hillsboro Oregon probably 5 yrs ago, I am not Mexican but, I was very moved for it, I commented with some Mexicans friends of mine,nobody knew nothing about it, how can be possible they don't know this important part of the history of their Country? Apparently it is not teach in their schools
It because mexico have become a socialist country sadly.
As a mexican, I can confirm this topic was kept secret from school books. Nowadays, it's just covered in a single page, but it's something
I saw this movie recently, I didn't know anything about this period of the Mexican history. One of the posted comments said that everything that happened during that time has been wiped out of the Mexican history books, which means the new generations don't know anything about it.
What would we do without you, Father?
Your teaching is smooth and remarkable, Father! One constructive criticism, however: the Church has always canonized the Martyrs not necessarily because of their philosophy of nonviolence, but rather, because of their unrelenting Witness to Christ and their sacrificial devotion united to Christ's. There is such a thing as defending the honor of the poor and defenseless through arms, via just war; such is noble, virtuous and supremely Catholic.
Amen, brother!
VIVA CRISTO REY!!
One of the best movies I ever seen.
Father good luck with your new assignment at the seminary, and please please keep posting videos. I'm sure it'll be tough and you'll be busy enough, but this is good stuff and does a lot of good, keep it up!
When I was in college we had to read Graham Green'es The Power ant the Glory which is based in the same period as the Cristeros. It left a deep impression on me. The final scene is the book is the vision of the Cross which is presented to the anti-hero, the whisky priest.
¡¡¡Viva Cristo Rey!!!
I doubt it will be released this side of the pond...but hopefully oneday I will be able to buy a DVD version..Loved your insights about it though. :)
What is your opinion on the mass killings of Catholics in the Vendee that were committed by the anti-religious/irreligious/anti-clerical French Revolutionary government?
If you have one...
the Church in governance and shepherding, while also declaring that all must take up their crosses and follow His example of self-sacrificial love toward God and men. He is complex, and His teachings and instructions are complex; it's important, I think, to not reduce that complexity, but to embrace it.
For example, Matthew 16:17-19, Matthew 18:18-19, and Matthew 23:1-2 are, in Rabbinical terminology, justification by Christ for the authoritative regulation of the Church.
Viva Cristo Rey!
While I am completely aware that UA-cam is a difficult forum to have a full discussion on, and at the risk of sounding over-simplistic (I'm not; I understand there are further nuances to this issue) I would say that to characterize the message of Jesus as totally passive and nonviolent, to the exclusion of both opposition to the general world at large, and the regulation of the creed of Christians, is to ignore the wonderful complexity of the Person of Jesus and His Gospel.
I agree
Thank you for this video Father Barron! I don't hear a lot of Catholic priests talking about nonviolence. Could you do a video about what the Church teaches about nonviolent resistence and recommend some good books about it? I tried looking for Catholic books that talk about this subject, but I couldn't find any.
I enjoy your videos. I would like to see a video on which you address the Nag Hammadi Codex. Gnostic texts that are even disregarded in religious debate shows such as The Big Question in the U.K. You are a smart man who knows what you're talking about philosophically, morally and humbly. As a Gnostic, I would really like to hear your take on the followers of St. John, The origins of Heaven from the Greek Elesian Fields, and your take on Luke 19:27.
Thank you Father Barron
the video appears a bit blurry and pixelated at times. Your words come out crystal clear, we only ask that your video does as well. Awesome video by the way Father.
I remember you did a confirmation for my cousins
father reyes vega was a priest in my home town he left to go on to the war
Bishop, if canonized saints have only been non violent, then please explain Joan of Arc.
He says the BEST way to battle the powers of the earth is through non-violence. By implication, not the only
Violence only when necessary and to defend other Christians, not yourself.
Que Viva!!
Catholic thought is a particular Christian way of being that tends to sweep very many concepts and ideas into harmony and wholeness - even paradoxical ones. I can't get into a serious and long debate on two separate ethical systems, or how to harmonize the various aspects of justice, regulation, and self-sacrifice; I shall leave that to wiser minds than mine. But at the very least, I can say with full assurance, Christ Himself gives precedent for the regulation of the beliefs and practices of
My thoughts exactly!
This person below needs to read more, God bless you Father!
Thanks urpleurple!
You're right! Blessed Charlemagne king of the Franks, St. Oswald king of Northumbria, St. Edmund the martyr king, St. Louis and St. Bernard were all great warrior saints not to mention all of the holy warriors in the Old Testament, Joshua, Samson, David and Gideon! "The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name."-Ex. 15:3, we should be crusaders of justice, not a bunch of Gandhi following pacifists!
Funny you should say it that way.
Ghandi was following the Christian message.
Well that was deep.
Awesome commentary! I knew Christ the King is an element of the Faith but never considered how deep the typology was outside the Davidic line in the OT. It makes me think how God first resisted the Israelites' request for a before conceding and having Saul anointed. I thought the photographing of the execution of Bl. Miguel Pro was first ordered by the got'v as an act of intimidation, and then backfired?
I thought it was a video of Father Pro s execution not a photograph I don't understand I thought it was a video
I love your insights and reviews on the current films, would you consider on doing one over Prometheus please?
Thank you for this video. I read somewhere that JP the Great beatified/etc. those who who did not fight (as you said), while Pope B XVI did beatify some who did fight. Also see AOTM (argument of the month) media page for great talk on Christero war.
I get Fr Barron's point that those who were canonized were the martyrs, and not the soldiers. But what alternative did the ordinary people in Mexico have? It seems to me that either they (i) resisted using armed forces, or (ii) were slaughtered wholesale, or else (iii) give up the practice of their religion. Given those choices, choice (i) looks best. What else are us Catholics supposed to do in the face of oppression, allow ourselves to be pushed around?
There is nothing wrong with this video except it is darker than most, some how the lighting is different, otherwise it is perfect!
@urpleurple I can't answer for Fr. B, but I can offer some idea as to the question. In Catholic thought, it seems to me there is a distinction between how one acts toward the world and all of its varied injustice and evil, and how one self-regulates one's community. The Church is not the world, nor is the world the Church.
Hey Father, you should do a review on the movie Prometheus. It has a lot of Christians themes. I'd like to here your take on it.
Hello Father, excellent analysis. I would very much appreciate a review on Prometheus I believe your insight would be most valuable.
It's only in 360p, while the standard these days is more 720p. It really isn't a big deal at all though, commentaries do not require the viewer to be able to see with microscopic detail :)
To be a Martyr or to be like Christ and to absorb injustice from the world and triumph over it is a far cry from allowing the identity of your believed Divine society - namely, the Church - to perishing due to an inflow of contrary ideas. To canonize or declare the beatitude of all opposing viewpoints is to cease to be objectively the Church in a sort of institutional suicide.
Father despite cherished British movie star Peter O'Toole playing a major role, the British media have decided to keep maliciously silent about this movie. Not one mention of it during Cannes. I can only imagine BBC film reviewers horror when confronted with the decision to review the film. "I say chaps, have you heard? Peter O'Tooe is starring in a film about Catholics....guess what?...it's on their side!" "oh dear, oh dear, whatever next! best pretend it hasn't happened"
What's wrong with it?
Father, I must take a rare exception with you on one point, and that is that there is a place and time for violence. You are certainly aware of the Church's stand on "Just War". Had the Mexican peasants not risen up against the evil government, the Church would have been crushed! Had the allies in WWII not faced the axis, what would the outcome have been?
BeeZee2 your right brother
The catechism states it, when their is no other option.
A just war is justice.
When Spanish civil war happened in 1936, happened the same... Franco upraised against a communist republic which was persecuting and killing thousands of Catholics.
My apologies for the use of the word passivity - I typed that when I was in a hurry and it was the wrong choice of words.
Hey father! you gotta get a higher quality camera!!!
Most you tubers record in 720p now, and in comparison 360p looks grainy. You did say beauty evangelizes!! haha
Might as well chime in - a Prometheus review would be awesome.
Father can you do a video on the enemy of the church today, Jehovas Witness?
My great uncle was a war hero during this time and he got betrayed by his own people he got snitch by a priest
Pater, did my message reach you about a request on a pastoral commentary? G-D be with you!
dipsaucerose the quality is great. is there any problem with your video card or video quality, maybe I can help you? ;)
Man, I wanna watch this, but it has spoilers....And I'm really looking forward to watching the movie and I don't want it to be ruined. Ugh...choices, choices, choices...
The movie seems emotionally stirring . And why is it that everything that starts off with good eventually turns into the evil that it stood against ? Two thousand years later and the Catholic Church and all others are rife with intrigue ,scandal , greed for gold and oppression of those who question for truth .
Jesus promised that the Catholic Church will not be destroyed by the forces of evil, but He never promised it would continue in North America. If we are lax, African and Asian Catholics will have to come in and re-evangelize this continent. Come to think if it, we could use that now (at least it wouldn't hurt) :)
ce film est quasiment l'histoire aussi des catholiques durant les année 1793 à 1796 en france
durant la révolution française qui ont été persécuté pour leurs foi et massacré par milliers par la république française
Was the cristero violent resistance a just war?
In this case, it was because they were not fighting for power, but for religious freedom. I hate any type of war, but there are times where a person has to fight for their freedom.
I loved Peter O'Toole's character. It was by far the best bit of my movie. He really reminded me of Fulton Sheen.
I seem to be one of the few Catholics who didn't like this movie. I didn't feel that the Gospel or the Church were well presented. I felt the movie didn't explain the background to the movie, it moved far too quickly to violence and seemed to indulge in it.
Plutarco Elías Calles was also a Mason and admired Lenin. True story.
Vivo Christo Rey
Fr Pro did not yell VIVA CRISTO REY, read the book by Br. Muller, C.S.C. who interviewed the sister of Fr. Pro. These are words but on the lips of Fr. Pro.
We... NT Wright... is right :D
I went to public school in the seventies graduated 1976 and took a class at Artesia High school in Lakewood ca. I was offered a class “Mexican American history” was taught by Mr Hoya and learned of the cristeros. These classes were taken away when the Reagan administration implemented “no child left behind” now I see so many many children that are in poverty being left behind more than ever
That’s socialist!
You mean the movie where the director admitted that he wanted to make believers feel liek God didnt exist?
Bishop Barron you should get down on your knees and ask Gods forgiveness for trying to "quiet" dedicated true Catholic priests who are preaching Gods words and Not following what man or especially the devil wants. I'm nobody but refuse to follow this political party that's in office now and listen to anyone who thinks its ok to follow people just because they hold some sort of high standing. You can't follow man and Jesus. You must make a choice and sadly you've shown who and what You are choosing and its Not God Our Heavenly Father. I'll pray for you to come to your senses and follow God in Jesus Name I pray Amen 🙏. †
Say what-what mbabist01?
Fr isn't talking about passivity. Wise up and listen...
Its ok but Im from the cold war era and I would love to believe in faith in peace to and hope for it someday but we didnt have that luxury during WWII and afterward. We were warned by the Blessed Mother it would come and yet we ignored the warning to our detriment. Yes it probably moved to quickly to violence but it also gave some truth to the violence of this time. A violence against Christians still imbibed by nations today who do not respect Christian peace/eithics today. Maybe Im wrong.
the boy was tortured before he was executed. Terrible.
You an ochicken lover?
Que Dios bendiga a nuestro presidente estadounidense y patriota estadounidense Donald John Trump y nosotros somos los polacos estadounidenses siempre los más trabajadores.
I'm a boy.
You'd have to form your own opinions based on how the Bible is actually writtten instead of through acrobatic interpretation to make it palatable,
Seems like Father supports only passivity. turn the cheek is the only way? I disagree.
I am sorry to tell inform you that Fr. Pro never said Viva Cristo Rey! This is a phrase that was placed on his lips by folklore.
Personally I thought PROMETHEUS was awful.Besides the movie itself being a clunky mess, it has a very irresolute, wishy-washy understanding of Catholicism. A lot of the fault lies with Damon Lindelof, whose contributions to the tv show LOST demonstrate the same flaky grasp on Christian belief.