Thank you. You support is amazing! ARP's versatility is what makes it so powerful I think. There's still a big list of features I want to add so look out for more regular updates this year. :)
Wow. As someone who really dislikes “generative” approaches to music and have struggled with enjoying sequencing as a way of creating music or performing I’ve been blown away by this little boxes’ evolution. This has become a quite incredible and organic creative assistant and performance support...and speaking of support that’s another area that this stands out. I think only the Oxi team have shown a similar level of wish list granting. It’s quite telling how much is being added or unlocked with each update you’re adding...this is a genius creation that’s filling a much overlooked niche but its potential has only just begun to be revealed
Thank you so much for your kind words and support. It means so much to me to know that our efforts are valued and to know that ARP's approach to melody generation is understood and well-regarded. When you make something truly different it's hard to know if it will be appreciated. All your feedback is gold! Thank you! ❤
What a wonderfully comprehensive list of improvements you've added. Thank you! Especially the classic mode and the, the, well, all improvements. Good job! Can't wait to download it.
After watching part 1 and this video, I am blown away! Absolutely incredible update! I have several midi controllers and would love to see a collaboration with You (MidiCake), OXI Instruments, Torso Electronics and Conductive Labs to create the ULTIMATE midi controller! You are all geniuses in your own right! Such inspiring update! THANK YOU!
Thanks for your amazing support! It is a real honour to be considered among those greats! I'm curious to know what part you would take from each to make your perfect controller?
@@midicakemidi Each one has their own strengths. You all have taken different approaches to the MIDI controllers and what aspect you have focused on. Obviously, the arpeggiator features of yours is incredible along with the new timing updates. The OXI One has some very cool generative features with its Stochastic mode, Matriceal mode, Euclidean mode and its harmonizing features. Torso Electronics T-1 has taken the Euclidean aspect to a whole new level and added some killer midi effects along with some cool performance stuff. Conductive Labs NDLR has a really easy to use interface that gets you started generating ideas with little to no music theory and very little effort. They are all great machines created by extraordinary minds. I could just image getting all of you in a room for a good period of time and just see the ideas that would come from it. I imagine it would be incredible. Keep up the killer updates... I am looking forward to what comes next.
I think these last few updates more than doubles the functionality of ARP but costs nothing more. Is there no limit to your generosity? Loved the video - clear.
ua-cam.com/video/AOgN6nW9bVA/v-deo.htmlsi=SyCfQwcVKHYAnnYk Yes, You can configure ARP like a simple mono drum machine. This video shows how. Basically, set note and scale lock and then create a custom bounce.
If I understand this correctly classic mode does not have a function that follows the order in which you played the notes? It is always determined by one of the preset orderings? Classic mode brings midicake a lot closer to what I would use live but I do rely on being able to change the ordering of the arp by simply playing the notes in a different order from the keys. Would that be possible in an update?
While a note order function, as you describe, would be technically possible it actually limits ARP's capabilites. The Direction, Bounce, Repeat, and Offset parameters and any modulations of those parameters would be negated by the note play order. ARP was specifically designed with its parameter driven behaviour. Given the current roadmap, it's unlikely that we'd be in a position to add the requested feature in the near term, I'm sorry.
@@midicakemidi Thanks for the response. A note order function would only add to the capabilities providing the other modes were still available. (Not at the same time obviously, as you point out one would over ride the other.) Perhaps I could achieve similar results by modulating the existing parameters but I think it's more musical to allow the player to decide note order while playing, especially in an improvisation situation where the player may not know in advance what note order is required. Its the difference between a programmers approach and a musicians approach. I still think midicake is great work but I'm left a bit unsure if it would work for me. I probably need to try it and see if I get on with its design philosophy.
@@DaveBessell We're always looking to improve ARP and are keen to improve it for musicians. So, I don't want to say no to the Note Order feature I'm just not sure how it would enhance and not limit ARP's capabilities. Never say never. If you do try ARP and want more from it, I'd be happy to work on ideas with you. We have a forum for discussion of new features and I do try to fulfil as many requests as possible via the development roadmap.
@@midicakemidi Thanks - perhaps I'm trying to turn the machine into something it isn't? Its so close to what I would like ideally though. Anyway I have ordered one so lets see how I get on with it. Thanks for your replies.
Ok, whay is this earth thing you call a midi host and how do i use it to connect different modules to the arp and (huff huff) why is it better than daisy chaining.
The USB Host port can be used to plug USB devices directly into ARP. This is useful if you have a MIDI controller that doesn't have a MIDI DIN Out. A MIDI Hub can be used to split the sending of MIDI messages to different devices. I.e. One cable out of ARP connected to the hub, then the hub connects to many devices on separate cables. Something like this: - kentonuk.com/product/thru-5/ You can of course use daisy chaining, using MIDI Thru. I.e. A cable out of ARP connected to Device 1 that sends the MIDI data out to Device 2 on 2nd MIDI cable. This has two potential drawbacks though. Some devices don't support MIDI Thru and many devices use what's called a "software Thru". In the latter, each MIDI IN message is processed and then resent via the MIDI Out. MIDI data is serial and each MIDI message takes around 1ms to process. There are a lot of messages to process and so this delay can cause an audible lag. If you have, for example, 5 devices in a daisy chain, the 5th device will take at best 5ms to receive the message. If you have a lot of MIDI messages it can take far longer and that may disrupt your music. A MIDI Hub forwards the MIDI data, in parallel, to each of its MIDI Out ports. Therefore, each connect device receives the data at the same time. For a small number of synths, daisy chaining is perfectly fine and you'll probably never notice any lag. I personally use a 1 to 3 Hub and daisy chain 2 or 3 synths on each output. I hope that helps.
The Midcake ARP is worth its weight in gold because of the performance enhancements that it brings to all of our existing synthesizers.
Thank you. You support is amazing! ARP's versatility is what makes it so powerful I think. There's still a big list of features I want to add so look out for more regular updates this year. :)
Wow. As someone who really dislikes “generative” approaches to music and have struggled with enjoying sequencing as a way of creating music or performing I’ve been blown away by this little boxes’ evolution. This has become a quite incredible and organic creative assistant and performance support...and speaking of support that’s another area that this stands out. I think only the Oxi team have shown a similar level of wish list granting. It’s quite telling how much is being added or unlocked with each update you’re adding...this is a genius creation that’s filling a much overlooked niche but its potential has only just begun to be revealed
Thank you so much for your kind words and support. It means so much to me to know that our efforts are valued and to know that ARP's approach to melody generation is understood and well-regarded. When you make something truly different it's hard to know if it will be appreciated. All your feedback is gold! Thank you! ❤
What a wonderfully comprehensive list of improvements you've added. Thank you! Especially the classic mode and the, the, well, all improvements. Good job! Can't wait to download it.
Thank you again. For believing in ARP! We'll keep the features coming. Smaller, more regular updates in 2024.
After watching part 1 and this video, I am blown away! Absolutely incredible update! I have several midi controllers and would love to see a collaboration with You (MidiCake), OXI Instruments, Torso Electronics and Conductive Labs to create the ULTIMATE midi controller! You are all geniuses in your own right! Such inspiring update! THANK YOU!
Thanks for your amazing support! It is a real honour to be considered among those greats! I'm curious to know what part you would take from each to make your perfect controller?
@@midicakemidi Each one has their own strengths. You all have taken different approaches to the MIDI controllers and what aspect you have focused on. Obviously, the arpeggiator features of yours is incredible along with the new timing updates. The OXI One has some very cool generative features with its Stochastic mode, Matriceal mode, Euclidean mode and its harmonizing features. Torso Electronics T-1 has taken the Euclidean aspect to a whole new level and added some killer midi effects along with some cool performance stuff. Conductive Labs NDLR has a really easy to use interface that gets you started generating ideas with little to no music theory and very little effort. They are all great machines created by extraordinary minds. I could just image getting all of you in a room for a good period of time and just see the ideas that would come from it. I imagine it would be incredible. Keep up the killer updates... I am looking forward to what comes next.
I think these last few updates more than doubles the functionality of ARP but costs nothing more. Is there no limit to your generosity? Loved the video - clear.
I wonder if there is a feature which helps me making beats on a midi percussion set. Is there anything like this?
ua-cam.com/video/AOgN6nW9bVA/v-deo.htmlsi=SyCfQwcVKHYAnnYk Yes, You can configure ARP like a simple mono drum machine. This video shows how. Basically, set note and scale lock and then create a custom bounce.
@@midicakemidi Brilliant, thx so much!
If I understand this correctly classic mode does not have a function that follows the order in which you played the notes? It is always determined by one of the preset orderings? Classic mode brings midicake a lot closer to what I would use live but I do rely on being able to change the ordering of the arp by simply playing the notes in a different order from the keys. Would that be possible in an update?
While a note order function, as you describe, would be technically possible it actually limits ARP's capabilites. The Direction, Bounce, Repeat, and Offset parameters and any modulations of those parameters would be negated by the note play order. ARP was specifically designed with its parameter driven behaviour. Given the current roadmap, it's unlikely that we'd be in a position to add the requested feature in the near term, I'm sorry.
@@midicakemidi Thanks for the response. A note order function would only add to the capabilities providing the other modes were still available. (Not at the same time obviously, as you point out one would over ride the other.) Perhaps I could achieve similar results by modulating the existing parameters but I think it's more musical to allow the player to decide note order while playing, especially in an improvisation situation where the player may not know in advance what note order is required. Its the difference between a programmers approach and a musicians approach. I still think midicake is great work but I'm left a bit unsure if it would work for me. I probably need to try it and see if I get on with its design philosophy.
@@DaveBessell We're always looking to improve ARP and are keen to improve it for musicians. So, I don't want to say no to the Note Order feature I'm just not sure how it would enhance and not limit ARP's capabilities. Never say never. If you do try ARP and want more from it, I'd be happy to work on ideas with you. We have a forum for discussion of new features and I do try to fulfil as many requests as possible via the development roadmap.
@@midicakemidi Thanks - perhaps I'm trying to turn the machine into something it isn't? Its so close to what I would like ideally though. Anyway I have ordered one so lets see how I get on with it. Thanks for your replies.
Ok, whay is this earth thing you call a midi host and how do i use it to connect different modules to the arp and (huff huff) why is it better than daisy chaining.
The USB Host port can be used to plug USB devices directly into ARP. This is useful if you have a MIDI controller that doesn't have a MIDI DIN Out.
A MIDI Hub can be used to split the sending of MIDI messages to different devices. I.e. One cable out of ARP connected to the hub, then the hub connects to many devices on separate cables.
Something like this: - kentonuk.com/product/thru-5/
You can of course use daisy chaining, using MIDI Thru. I.e. A cable out of ARP connected to Device 1 that sends the MIDI data out to Device 2 on 2nd MIDI cable.
This has two potential drawbacks though. Some devices don't support MIDI Thru and many devices use what's called a "software Thru". In the latter, each MIDI IN message is processed and then resent via the MIDI Out.
MIDI data is serial and each MIDI message takes around 1ms to process. There are a lot of messages to process and so this delay can cause an audible lag.
If you have, for example, 5 devices in a daisy chain, the 5th device will take at best 5ms to receive the message. If you have a lot of MIDI messages it can take far longer and that may disrupt your music.
A MIDI Hub forwards the MIDI data, in parallel, to each of its MIDI Out ports. Therefore, each connect device receives the data at the same time.
For a small number of synths, daisy chaining is perfectly fine and you'll probably never notice any lag. I personally use a 1 to 3 Hub and daisy chain 2 or 3 synths on each output.
I hope that helps.
Thankyou!