WHY MACERATION IS IMPORTANT FOR FRAGRANCES? || HOW TO GET THE "WOW" PERFORMANCE
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- Not a review, but I did some digging into why sometimes you don't get the "power" or "wow" performances from independent fragrance houses e.g. Dua, Alexandria and others from the same niche. I saw some good fragcomm members come up with this and I practically applied it to find out if maceration is a myth or a bust. Find out in this video WHY MACERATION IS IMPORTANT FOR FRAGRANCES? I also shared how the maceration process can help you achieve that wow performance.
P.S.: I've shared my personal experience. Due to the nature of the ingredients and many other variables at play, results might vary.
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Thanks for emphasizing the need to get air in the bottle first. A lot of these UA-camrs miss on this key step. Then people end up storing their unused bottles which does nothing.
Thank you for your feedback and letting me know that ai said the right thing.
this is actually false. it will still macerate without getting air in the bottle. The opposite is recommended and that there should be the least air possible. This perfumer actually covered it in his video, and you can also see some questions he answer in the comments ua-cam.com/video/CLt1aanPI54/v-deo.html&ab_channel=ModernFragrance
So I should hold my bottle upside down and pump a few times then put it in my cupboard for a while? I just got Khamrah so want to macerate it. I don’t want to wear it right now as I am taking a break to rest my nose for a week. It improves your ability to smell things after a small break. It is tempting to just wear it but I would feel a failure after I set myself to take a weeks break and this is day one 😂
Nope. Spray while holding upright. No need to hold upside down. Khamrah doesn't need maceration. It's readily usable out of the box.
@@brian19869 OK, thanks. I got a slight whiff as i did spray it upright last night before putting it in the cupboard and man from what i smelled, no wonder this is always sold out in the UK for the price. I honestly got a slight smell coming from the cupboard and was blown away. I can't wait to smell this full on! E-bay and Amazon of course have stock but i don't shop there.Too much chances for fakes.
We all frags enthusiasts need to know about this. I have also experienced maceration even with weaker fragrances and I loved it. You said about 2-3 weeks but wait a year or 2, totally different story. That's why you don't need to pay absurd high prices for old formulation fragrances and buy new batches instead for a lot more decent prices. Over time the maceration will interfere and improve the fragrances a lot.
Just like you said, use it a few times and just let it sit for a while, come back to it after some time and boom : surprise.
Thank you for the video !
Very happy that you appreciate the video and for sharing your experience
Sure but I don't know about a year or two, that would be nice but what if you die in the mean time? Life is short so use it with-in a month and if you still have some in a year or two your golden....Keep and get a good rotation and it will last....
@@scarabeo500gt Be more optimistic man !
Good point. I've noticed that most of my fragrances become stronger with time. I remember when I was dissapointed with Layton. It performed for 3-4 hours, now after few months it performs more than 8 hours. Similar thing happened to Herod. It is a beast now 12hrs. Even designer perfumes macerate, not as much but they do as well. Have a nice day ;)
Yes. That's exactly what I tried to convey in this video. These niche or other independent companies make fragrances in smaller batches targeted for select kinda consumers. That's why things vary. Designers target mass market.
It's true even designer fragrance
I hope you are right, I just got my Herod and the performance is horrible. Can't detect it that well after 30 minutes. Becomes a skin scent. Paid a lot for it so I hope you are right
That is a cery frustrating situation especially when you paid that much. Some niche house customers have recently complained about bad performance and exactly what you said. I hope this process works on Amouage fragrances. If the formulation is not done properly then chances are maceration won't help too much, but it's worth taking a shot. Maybe you'll have to let it macerate for a longer time. I hope you get some good results.
100 percent facts maseration is real, I've experienced this with my own fragrances.
Thank you for sharing your experience and thoughts.
Thanks for this information. I’m new to fragrances and this is great advice
Welcome to the wonderful world of fragrances. Wishing you all the best and keep smelling good
Very informative video that many people need to know when it comes to perfume!
Thank you for the feedback. Glad I could provide helpful information.
Good stuff. I'll be looking into more videos to learn more about this fact. Thank you for sharing.
I bought bottle of Sauvage a few months ago. The first use, no projection, nothing. Sprayed yesterday .. My Mrs said that's nice .. and it projected for around 3 hours.
Hope you bought it from an authentic source? Sauvage is very popular, so chances of getting a fake is cery high if you bought it from some random location.
@@brian19869would jomashop be considered a good source?
I appreciate that info because I bought a bottle of sauvage and wasn't really impressed with it three sprays didn't project at all it smells good but I'm not going to hose myself down in the stuff but it is new I checked the batch code. so I'm going to let it sit for a few months and see I appreciate that info
Keep us posted.
man, you got attitude. i like that, subbed 👍
Appreciate the support. 🙏. Thank you.
Maceration is so that the molecules can bond with each other, not air by the way. ;) The higher volatile (top) molecules create a matrix with the lower volatile (base) molecules.
Thank you for sharing this information. 🙂
Great information!
lol yeah that part didnt make sense when he said it
Hi, Brian, great job. I'm following your work on UA-cam here in Brazil.
Thank you so much for your support. I hope you're enjoying the contents.
Only professional users knew about this haha! Good job.
Thank you for the feedback. Sometimes, I learn it the hard way, so I thought about spreading the info. 🙂
@@brian19869 Thank you for that.
@@miguelluceroooglad that you found the content to be helpful. 🙂
As I figured it out:
maceration - Ingredients oils mixing,letting it's scent into alcohol until they become one. Most house do it at their facilities.
Maturation is what we need. I usually take out 10ml in a decant to get more air in the bottle. Next step .... wait 😡 Some fragrances work after 3 weeks,heavy ingredient ones,sometimes need 2 months.
Agreed on the waiting part. Sometimes 3 weeks & sometimes 3 months. Just need to be patient. I bought this newer batch of Initio Side Effect and noticed many things differed from the older batches. After several wearings, I left it untouched for many months and only then the depth amd character gradually came into existence. Yet, the omph that Side Effect used to have is way lesser than before.
Thank you a lot for this information 🙏🏼😘! When I make my own herbal oils they also need some weeks for macerating.
Appreciate the feedback. 🙂
Thank you. I might check out some Dua's clones, I've been wanting to try Dior Homme Intense.
Just keep an eye for the times they run their sale. No need to pay full price when you can grab for less.
heppen to me with dior homme intense can't even smell it when it was new after 2 mounth it choked my house
Glad that it worked for you 🙂
The first week using DHI daily I couldn’t smell the fragrance after an hour of spraying, nor other people could unless you put your nose right next to it , now i can smell it even the next day. Same happened to me with gold edition Al haramain
@@pepepolo6680 nice. Looks like you had to macerate that bottle of DHI.
@@pepepolo6680how did you do it sir !
How will you know if they're matured?
How many months from the date of manufacturing does it take a perfume to macerate?
Usually, any good brand will have their fragrances sit and macerate for months before a release. However, there are instances when the brand will rush to get something in the market. We as consumers have no control over it. Each fragrance has it's own behavior pattern. There are ones that worked out just fine within 2-3 weeks (dramatic changes were noticeable) andnyet there were those that took 5-6 months before I got some solid outcome. It's all about experimenting with what you have in hand.
Some designers like dior recent batches 2023 are definitely not macerating before the store lol
Guess these bignl corporations are more interested in pumping out products as opposed to the elegance that used to come with the products. Sad reality
Even Versace I guess. I bought Eau Fraiche and on the first day it was just alcohol and some notes that evaporated after 15 minutes. I got it for 2 weeks now and it's kinda better but not there yet. No more alocohol but performance is still lacking at least in comparison to a tester in a store. Or maybe testers are the biggest scam. Who knows
It's definitely a topic more perfume influencers need to start addressing because the nose blind excuse is so b.s.
This happened to me with Aventus I blind bought it and sprayed it it smell like straight moss/musk….I was gonna sell it
Then about a month later I tried it and I could smell the pineapple notes and smelled totally different now it’s #1 in my collection
That's very good to hear. I recently bought a bottle of Royal Oud (my first Creed fragrance) and after doing some full wearings, I've let it sit. Think is more than 3 months now. I'll let it sit for longer. It performs very well and smells amazing, but I just wanna see what effect it gives when I let it sit for this long.
@@brian19869 honestly I don’t know if all Creed does that, I honestly think Royal Oud, Bois Du Portugal and GIT are scents that won’t change much with maceration but again I could be wrong…..Aventus definitely does
It’s not true bro. They use the maceration to deflect customer complaints
Hmm. I do understand what you're trying to say here, but to be really honest. I did get results as did many others. I gotta give you one thing though; there are certain fragrances, Dua or not, that just won't work even with maceration. Probably it's the chemical composition. 🤔
Are you for real? It's chemistry, chemical process. Cecile Zerikian talked about it,every parfumer will tell you the same.
Dude,I can be crazy about 1 or 2 of my fragrances but with 20,no way. Week by week and fragrance is changing. Notes become clearer, performance get better.
I can't believe that in 2023 that are people who talk about maceration is non existing.
you have a really good camera
Thank you for the feedback
I noticed this with my bottle of YSL Y. I really didnt care too much for it at first, now ive had my bottle for 2 years and it is much better
Awesome. Another success story. 🙂
Mine became a 2 spray nuclear beast after a year or so.
how? i dont understand much in english @@robophobic3716
I sprayed a tester of ysl y and the performance was great it lasted ages then i bought a bottle and the performance is nowhere near as good as the tester. does it just need time to macerate ?
Let it sit for some time.
I just got pdm greenly and the longevity is no past 5hours and a very week projection so I hope macerating it will help
I own only one PDM (Percival), so it'll be unwise to give a personal opinion in general. I do hear fragcomm members talking about weak performance issues too. Assuming you don't have a way to return your bottle, so yeah, certainly take your chances. It's the only way to find out.
@@brian19869 ok Ty for the feedback
Do I need to macerate my Armani Code Parfum?
Well, you can take a shot. I say that because it's relatively new and ai believe they wouldn't sell the weaker stuff in the first phase.
When I used woody oud for the first time, the fragrance lasted for 24 hours. But now when I did it the second time, the fragrance lasted only for 10 minutes. Why is this happening?
You sure you're not going nose blind to it? To be honest, the first sprays are usually the weaker performers, but yours seem do the opposite. 🤔
thsi is exactly what happened to me with YSL y edp. first time i used my brand new bottle it performed amazingly now it lacks performance
I've noticed this happening with fragrances, especially when I open a brand new one. First one is excellent then for some reason it won't be as potent. However, I always let it sit for a few days and all is back to normal.
I got Musky Garden by Mancera, not so much of a famous perfume ,it's a musky floral perfume, will let it mature hope it's performance get better
Keep me posted.
I bought kaaf by ahmad almaghribi 3 day ago….not performed well enough…what should i do plz tell me
I don't personally own Kaaf, but a lot of people in the fragcomm mentioned that this fragrance is more of an airy nature. Supposed to last long, but not as loud. I. An suggest that you keep this fragrance untouched for a few weeks and then try to see of you notice any change.
@@brian19869 ok should i placed it with his cap or without his cap ?
just found the perfect no gender clean musky everyday scent I've been looking for here in Brazil but it doesn't last a lot. I never macerated a fragrance before, I'll try to let it sit for 3-4 weeks. the hard part is not to use it lol, I love the scent
Yes, the wait is always difficult, but the reward is greater if you can wait up. Unless that's the only fragrance you own.
Hey there , a very nice video.
I am a bit skeptical about the process and made a post on Reddit in r/fragrances but sadly no one had a proper answer. I'mma paste that text here hope you'll clear my doubt regarding this.
*Maceration/ Maturation*
So there's that maceration/maturation phenomenal that I came to know about recently. So I thought I should follow the process for a couple of low performance fragrances that I have. But I'm confused and don't really know the actual science and concept behind maceration/maturation and I don't even know whether if these terms are technically the same or not. So let's assume I want to do this maceration or maturation whatever it is , so do I need to just let my fragrance bottle rest at a cool dark place for a span of time or I'll need to remove the cap or nozzle from the bottle and let it rest so that it's alcohol gets evaporated and the fragrance becomes more saturated and oxidized.
Inshort, I am confused that whether this process is actually aimed to let the fragrance rest and mature so that it's content blends well or this process is meant to let the excess alcohol evaporate and oxidize the fragrance molecules ( I don't know what oxidation does to a fragrance lol ). Will only letting it rest and age do the trick or the main goal is evaporating the excess alcohol and oxidizing the perfume by removing the cap and nozzle. Thanks for reading!
I'm very happy that you watched my content and came up with a question to get better clarification.
First, I'll request you to watch my new video where I take a broader take on maceration and how it has affected various type of fragrances in my collection, be it absolute cheapie or $$$ niche. ua-cam.com/video/5HL7LO_G-Pg/v-deo.htmlsi=HPuiZ9K8rXBGhG2y
To answer your questions.
1. Let's keep things simple by considering only one term, maceration. It's the process where the chemical components in a fragrance get time blend well with each other.
2. How to macerate a fragrance? Simple. Just grab a brand new bottle, do like 6-10 sprays on yourself and see if it performs and sort of smells like how your friends/reviewers say. If not, after that initial set of sprays, just put the bottle away in a cool dark place and for better results, let's not move it around.
3. Do you need to keep it in a box or take off the cap and atomizer? Keeping it in a box is my recommendation. You DO NOT need to take off the cap and atomizer for maceration to take place. Remember, that nozzle is a valve and without pressing it, nothing goes in or our. That should clear your confusion as to why the alcohol won't evaporate.
4. Oxidation? Every time you press that atomizer, a tiny bit of air does go in. It's extremely tiny, so no worries. This bit of air will certainly react with the aroma chemicals in the fragrance composition and definitely affect the way it smells especially if a bottle is preserved for a very long time (My other video that I mentioned should answer all that).
I hope that clears you confusion and watching my other recent video will help you more since I used actual examples from my collection.
@@brian19869 thanks a lot for the detailed and timely explanation. You surely earned a sub and I'll watch that recommended video too . Don't mind if I ask 2 more questions.
1) why are 6-10 sprays recommended and not more. I mean let's say if I've already used 30% of the juice from the bottle and then I put it on maceration, will it get over oxidized as there'd be more air inside the bottle and will eventually ruin the fragrance?
2) What are your thoughts on keeping the perfume bottle in the refrigerator for maceration?
Thank you 🙏 ❤️
@X3alpha If you will notice, I mentioned about a brand new bottle and not a partial one. If it's a partial, by all means, just skip the initial spray part and leave the bottle undisturbed in a cool dark place. I'm sure your question about over-oxidation is answered in my other video. I do not recommend keeping fragrances in a refrigerator. Any fragrance is created to withstand a certain level of temperature variation. If you keep it in a fridge, then imagine the huge temperature difference when you take it out on a normal day. That is exactly what you're trying to avoid in the first place, i.e. extreme differences in temperature.
Hope it answers you questions. 🙂
@@brian19869 thanks again. Stay blessed
All well and good... but, when you speak of designer frags being 'ready to go' , how would they get air in them ?
Every time the atomizer is actuated, air seeps into the bottle. That's why any fragrance bottle if it's not finished soon enough will become oxidized and that happens cuz air did go in. When Insaid designer fragrances are ready to to, I meant that they are mostly prepared well ahead of time. See you will be ready to deal with a $500 bottle of fragrance, but be less patient with something that costs $70. So a designer fragrance will lose credibility and demand if they're not well-prepared before they hit the shelves.
Yes its true !!!!!!, i try with his aspirtion extr, and aroma heaven of dua , and after 2 month its closer to OG
Great to hear about your experience. Thank you for the feedback
All fragrance bottles come with air them already, you spraying the fragrance literally makes no difference. They just need to mature that’s all.
I just bought Loewe 7 and I wonder if it needs to macerate too
Is it a low performer? Do you feel there's more to be expected from that fragrance? Also, even without questions, there's no harm if you let a fragrance sit for some time. 🙂
Should we put off the cap of bottle while storing it in cool dark cupboard or just place it with the cap on it?
Thanks for the inquiry. You’ll need to put the cap on and then leave that bottle away like I mentioned.
But do remember to spray a couple of times before leaving to macerate. Use that fragrance for the first couple of times (may be 3-4 times) just to get some air into the bottle as you spray. Then do the necessary.
@@brian19869 Fine. Thanks
Thank you for the information
Really appreciate the feedback and positivity 🙏
Do you need to macerate the fragrance inside the box or you can macerate without the box?
With or without box, doesn’t matter. With or without cap, doesn’t matter because the atomizer is sealed and air doesn’t go inside unless it’s actuated. 3 simple steps. One, do a couple of sprays when starting out. Two, put the bottle aside in a cool dark place, e.g. a closet. Three, try and not move the bottle around or spray from it within the next couple of weeks. Please bear in mind that each fragrance macerates at different rates. So, patience is key and there’s no fixed rule. 🙂 you can always test out your ways as well. Hope that helps.
Should i use the fragrance while i wait?
It's not recommended. You do a couple of sprays then simply leave the bottle in a cool dark place (a closet or shelf) and don't touch or use it for some solid time frame, say 2-3 weeks before trying and finding out if it's going in a good direction. Maceration time varies. Some may take longer than expected.
@@brian19869Not recommended just not to waist fragrance. Nothing will happen if you move it, spray it or whatever.
Greetings can the perfume be used while it matures?
You surely can, but it'll slow fown the process. Unless, it's the only fragrance you own, I highly recommend that you let it mature without disturbance.
Hey I got couple of fragrances that should be lasting longer and performing better, with maceration that improve?
Yes, typically they should. Mind sharing a few fragrance names?
@@brian19869 yeah, Got 1 Million Elixir, JPG Le Male Parfum, Azzaro the Most Wanted(all black bottle) and the biggest let down Aqua Di Gio Profumo reformulated(doesn’t last long), these are not performing very well.
@@brian19869I have recently bought the CDNIM EDP (Aventus clone) and everyone boasts about its performance, but mine is underperforming a ton. The batch was made in December 2023, so the issue definitely is that it hasn’t macerated. How long should I wait? And can I use it while it’s macerating?
Would this work for a used fragrance too ? Or would I need to put more air in it before putting it away? Trying to get my Xerjoff Naxos to macerate. I’ve used about 20ml
Since you've been using that bottle of Naxos, then you're all set. Just let it sit in a cool dark place. Naxos also has a great indicator. The juice color turns deeper once that bottle has macerated well.
@@brian19869 brilliant, yeah I know. It turns almost orange once macerated. Came across Someone who had a 5 month old bottle and it was orange lol. My bottle is like 9 months old. Thanks for your advice and good luck with your channel.
Thank you and I appreciate the positivity 🙏
I'm living in a hot & full of humidity country. Can i macerate it in a fridge?? Or it will effect it negatively? Please help me, all love ❤️
Don't worry about warm temperatures. As long as you're not keeping the bottle under direct sunlight, you're good. I'm sure you're gonna keep the bottle in a safe place. As for the refrigerator part, I believe it'll have a negative effect. You mentioned that you live in a hot country, so the moment you take out your fragrance from the fridge, there's going to be quite a big temperature difference. That's what will affect it negatively. You wanna try and keep your fragrance away from sudden and large temperature changes. Hope that helps. ✌️
@@brian19869 thanks a lot for your help, you're a kind man may God bless you 😍❤️
so Maceration doesnt work on designer fragrances?
In my experience, not so much. When designer fragrances are released, they wouldn't want their products to be going thru some process. That will make buyers unhappy and brands lose out on the monetary gain. As for niche/other houses, the buyers are mostly people who are accustomed to such issues and are ready to go the distance. Take Creed for instance. Whoever buys a Creed fragrance, is most likely in the know about performance issues. Also, with a full retail price tag, only those who have an acquired taste will go for their items. Designer fragrances are prepared and processed well ahead of time so that it's in a ready-to-use condition. Well, if someone is patient and wants to experiment, is a whole different chapter. I hope that helps 🙂
@@brian19869 im not talking performance issues but alot of people say if you keep a bottle for years it still gets richer and lasts longer and i see alot of people showing their old bottle with darker color than the new bottle they got in comparision.
Yes, if you preserve the designer fragrance bottle long enough (under favorable conditions) the fragrance does tend to change. Now whether it becomes richer or lasts longer (performance) will depend on the nature of the fragrance. I personally have a bottle of Bleu De Chanel EDP from back in 2016/2017. The juice has certainly turned darker and what's more interesting is that the top citruses are less prominent, but the base of heavier notes are more pronounced upon application. Longevity is still awesome on my skin. I also have a bottle of Acqua di Gio EDT from 2015 and nothing has changed about it over all these years.
Doesn't the clock (life shelf) of the fragrance initiate once air goes in?
Well, if you store fragrances properly then they go way beyond their recommended shelf life. I have fragrances that are more than 10 yrs old. They still smell exactly the same and in fact last better. As long as you keep the bottle in a cool dark place, you should be good to have that bottle way past the recommended expiration date.
So glad I found this video I just bought a fragrance with no performance. So is 3- 4 weeks enough or is 8 weeks more of the need.
Unless it's extremely weak, 3-4 weeks of maceration should give you an idea if it'll perform better if left for longer. The ones I have don't get used much since I already have many other fragrances, so I can keep the Duas at the bottom of the list. Except for 1, every other Dua has macerated well and performs great, especially the ones that were on the lower end. Hope that helps.
@@brian19869 Yes it does i have a armaf intense man that lacks longevity and projection so hoping maceration helps . I will start with 3-4 weeks
Give it a shot and lemme know what happens. Usually, it's houses like Dua or Alexandria that require maceration. Lattafa and such are well macerated before releases, but it doesn't hurt. Who knows if that particular batch was released ahead of time. Keep us in the know. Good luck and I hope it works for you.
how is it now?
@@lunaramos3636 I am not sure have not retested was waiting a little longer
I have bought some oil concentrates which are not full-bodied . I know it since I've used them before. I have uncapped them for over 24 hrs. How about refrigerating them? Would they improve then? Thanks
I wouldn't recommend refrigerating them. Remember, lower temperatures will essentially slow down the chemical process (and no need to keep contents in higher temps either) and the condensation that'll follow after you take out the bottle will be harmful. If you search, you'll always find how it's always said to use clean and dry things ro come in contact with the oil. Also,for oils to mature better, it should be tightly capped and left for days. Oils macerate over longer periods so you definitely need patience. Keeping the cap off will only allow the fragrance 5o escape and the oil to oxidize too much. Hope that helps.
@@brian19869 thanks so much Brian. Usually for natural oils like oud, we are told to uncap them periodically to allow oxidation and aging. But since these are synthetic, I believe capping them tightly for some time sounds like a better idea. Let me try it and update you 😃. And you are so right about the refrigerating part ! Thanks so much! Cheers
That's great to hear. Yes, when you use them every once in a while, that short exposure is enough. Keep me posted. Not sure how synthetic ones will act, but it's good to know.
I really dont want to wait that long for my dua to macerate, how long is the minimum to take effect?
Perfumes are nothing but chemicals. Now each combo has it's own thing too. Each mixture works differently. For Duas, I've seen results as early as 2-3 weeks. You just need to find out over time unfortunately. There's no fixed timing.
I just bought Lattafa Khamrah. Should i let it macerated? SPL quite good
I don't think Khamrah would require maceration. Lattafa is one of those houses where longevity and projection is key for their popularity. Is it giving you very short longevity?
I have recently acquired Creed Aventus (batch l4222c11a), and frankly I can only pray that this maceration thing works because right now it doesn't last more than 30 mins and the projection is very poor. I'm really annoyed. I'll come back in two months to this commentary to give my verdict.
That's very sad to hear. Even in the communities out there, so many people are complaining how they spent quite an amount to purchase Aventus and ended up with very poor performance. Haven't seen anyone talk about maceration there, but I pray that something good happens to you. Keep us posted here. I think lately, Creed is not caring about the quality anymore and it's sad to see such things happen. It's probably selling for brand name only.
Well?
Its already 3 months, how?
10 months now lol
11 months .. Com'on, where's our feedback!!
So basically , open and spray your fragrance maybe 5 to 6 sprays , place the bottle in a cool dark place for about 4 to 6 weeks ? .
Yep. Sounds about right.
Thanks, I have heard some people say take the cap off after spraying and keep it in a dark place without the cap and let it sit. So I am wondering if I should leave the cap on or off?
The cap doesn't make any difference. It's the actuation of the atomizer that causes the exchange of fluid and air.
@@brian19869 thanks for the prompt response 🙂
Of course. Happy to help. 🙏
Ive set mine with the cap off on a window so the sun hits it for a few weeks
That's gonna harm the fragrance rather than help macerate.
Yea I just got a Dua fragrance and it smells like nothing. I get a small hint of citrus but nothing more than that. They come in pouches, so I put it back in the pouch and put it in my closet. I'll check on it in a month and see what happens.
Dua fragrances come in boxes. Did they change packaging or did you buy their smaller size offerings. Never heard they came in pouches. Haven't purchased recently so I maybe missing out info.
@@brian19869 yea they come in pouches now with a drawstring
@@brian19869 yea they come in pouches with a drawstring now.
@brian19869 Yep, I just ordered several and they came only in pouches. I'm finding that most of them don't perform well, especially with respect to longevity. I sure hope they will be better after a couple months. It's hard to wait those couple of months to find out whether I wasted a bunch of money on several Dua bottles.
@@FiddlingCPA they finally did macerate and perform well now. Smell great too.
Can i use my perfume while it's macerate?
Of course you can, but I highly recommend to allow the juice to sit while the maceration process progresses.
from Philippines here. I just bought Acqua di gio original but the projection is not so performing , any tips if this can be improved ?
Unfortunately, the og ADG lacks performance now. Way back it used to be very good. Maybe you can try layering with some ISO-E super or Molecule 01 for a performance boost.
So if my clone has a sour opening that eventually smells like the original fragrance after an hour or two, does that mean it just needs to sit for a few months?
Let me clarify from what I understand. Maceration is letting the substances sit, mix and bond so that it "matures". As for the smell, every individual has a different skin chemistry. A fragrance that smells kinda sour to you might not be the same on another person. When the fragrance matures, yes, the scent profile might shift and longevity will vary. To answer your question, for brands like Dua and such, it's best to let 'em sit after some initial sprays.
i just got rasasi hawas and my bottle was made only 1 month ago, performance is not good at all right now. do you think macerating it for like 3 months will help?
Well my bottle from 2017 or 2018 has changed quite a bit (became richer) over the years, so, yes it's worth the shot. Not that my bottle of Hawas was suffering from performance issues, but the fact that I have so many fragrances simply allows me to put each one in rotation and give breaks to some.
@@brian19869hello! I just found this informative video, but I need to ask if I can macerate my fragrance which i have been using for a month. Or this only helps just after the opening?
Hi will this work on Initio absolute aphrodisiac
I've gotten results on Initio fragrances so it's certainly gonna work. My batch of Side Effect was suffering from performance issues. Been macerating for almost more than 2 months now and i see significant changes.
Can i still use a perfume while it's macerating?
Well, the whole point of maceration is to let out a few sprays and some air goes into the bottle and simply let the liquid stand absolutely still some time. Not all fragrances require maceration, but those that do, just leave them be for a month or two. Unless you're really tempted, just let the process happen undisturbed.
@@brian19869 Okay thank you for the reply
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@@brian19869 do we need to need to remove the cap ?
@@rahulsadiq56 nope. Simply grab the fresh bottle, do a couple of sprays on yourself, replace the cap and put it in a cool dark place (a closet maybe?) And don't move or touch it for some time. Houses such as Dua require these macerations and I've seen good results. Please bear in mind that your usual designers don't need that since they're well macerated before they're released for purchase. Lemme know your experience or if you have more questions. I'll try to be as helpful as possible.
Should I macerate my Dylan blue it is pretty weak in longevity
Are you sure you're not going nose blind on Dylan Blue? Even with very recent batches, I've almost never heard an user complain about performance. Also, I hope you got it from a reliable source. Dylan Blue is ready out of the box. Lemme know, my friend
@@brian19869 i got it from a online website but the website checks out as they have many stores and even has an app, i could be getting noseblind when i put it on i can very well smell it and so can other people around me like 2 metre projection but i feel like it gets weak over 3 hrs and after that i cant smell it. could it be that the weather is the cause of it as recently it has been under 15 degrees and pretty windy. does it work in summer, hot climates?
@@brian19869oh! You mean every fragrance doesn't need to be macerate? If it's that case, how do you know a fragrance needs a macerate?
HOW ABOUT THE VERSACE EROS SIR?
I JUST BOUGHT 200ML AND TBH IT FEELS WEAK
I NEED YOUR HELP SIR😢
I keep hearing how the newer batches of the EDT are fairly weak. That punchy performance is lacking these days. Also how each brand is cutting on costs is definitely going to affect their product's. No denying on that. If at all it's possible to return, then try and ger the EDP or Parfum version. Otherwise, try your luck with maceration. Just leave the bottle untouched in a cool dark place, say 2 weeks and revisit. See if it's making a difference.
Does br540 need to be macerated?
I don't think so. Over all these years, I've never seen one person complain about BR540, unless they purchased a fake one unknowingly.
Heello,
I definelty need to macerate my mancera cedrat boisee.
But thats my only frag in collection 😭
May I use it and still get it over time to macerate by itself?
Yes, you can use your fragrance while still not interrupting it's maceration.
Sure you can. It's all good. Since that's the only fragrance in your possession, and because you're gonna use it while the process takes place, it might be a while before you see big changes. Keep us posted.
@@brian19869 sure I will
Thank You all
@@genesisss. thanks boss
It will only get better with time. Remember to not place it where sunlight and heat can enter. Enjoy!
Hi, I just got Azzaro the most wanted edp intense, the first day I sprayed 5-6 sprays, and the second day I sprayed around 5-6 sprays also just to test the performance but the performance was quite weird like 3 hours of projection, and longevity like only 7-8 hours, and I want to macerate is it's okay to spray few more like 10-15spray before macerate it from now? Hope u will response to me soon thanks
Azzaro Most Wanted EDP Intense isn’t supposed to be weak. I’ve never come across anyone complaining about that. Hope you have an authentic bottle. 🤔.
On a different note, sure, you can spray a few more then leave the bottle alone for some time. Just make sure you have an authentic bottle though, because a fake one will be up to no good. Hope that helps.
@@brian19869 yes its legit real brother, i bought at sephora store in France , btw bro as i mentioned above whats your thought 🤔
@@brian19869 i bought azzaro set brother and its legit from france at Sephora store. The opening quite weird and i like the the dry down so much and i just got 3hour projection and 7-8hour longevity. So thats why i asked u if i macerate is its good or not cuz i want the performance become better 😅
Im thinking of macerating my azzaro tmw edp because its silliage and projection are barely noticeable after 2-3 hours it becomes on skin only. Thoughts?.
Are you sure about that fragrance not performing? I'm asking because I have yet to come across one of those flankers that doesn't perform well. I hope you're not going noseblind. Happened with me for someone fragrances and yet everyone around were getting it strongly.
Recently bought 2 fragrances Creed Aventus and Layton and I got newer batch for Creed and I heard newer batch doesn’t perform good, does that mean I have to macerate Creed Aventus like you just explained in your video? Please let me know 🙏🏻
I’m very sorry to say that I don’t own any Creeds yet, but I’m safely assuming you aren’t returning it, so you could give it a shot. However, as seen from shared experience from many users in various groups, it’s almost certain that the performance is quite the issue these days.
Same situation, I bought a bottle of Creed Aventus yesterday, and the duration and projection is very low... I'll pray to see if this maceration thing works.
@@seriantx fingers crossed.
@@brian19869 yeah! I,ll comeback with the veredict…
Hoping for the best
This is probably a dumb question, but I got a fragrance from Alexandria yesterday and It smells nothing like the bottle. I sprayed it and it smelled bad, but I smelled the atomizer and it smelled amazing, but my question is would it still be able to macerate even though I already sprayed it? It was 3 or 4 sprays only.
Yes, of course. If you've done just that many sprays, you're totally cool. Just put the bottle away in a cool dark place and try not to move it for, say a month or so. See how it goes. The reason the atomizer smelled great was because the residual aroma chemicals just dried and remained there. They gotta mix more inside the bottle and that's why when you're spraying it, you don't get the expected aroma. Keep us posted.
@@brian19869 Thanks man will do. Also even though it's macerating right now could I spray like every week once to see how its going?
Yes, of course. There's no fixed timeline, but a week is a good starting point. Sometimes you start noticing changes past 2 weeks and sometimes a week will tell you if you're headed in the right direction. Experimenting is key. Keep us posted.
@@brian19869 damn bro it’s been 3 weeks and there’s just barley a difference somewhat unnoticeable i’m starting to loose hope😞
Oh no. I hope it's not a miss with this one. 😕. Sorry to hear that. I've never owned an Alexandria item, so I'm not aware, but when you look at the juice, does it have a color? Like with Duas, there are only a few that are absolutely clear, otherwise they're pale yellow at the very least. So, the ones that have macerated over a very long time will have visible color changes. It turns into a deeper shade.
Should you leave the cap off?
Not that it's gonna make a difference, but keep the cap on.
Thanks for this informative video. I have a bottle of HAWAS and it has hardly any scent at all. I recieved it and it was 2 months since production date. Do you thinky the issue could be lack of maceration/maturity? It's been another 3 weeks since I opened it and it still has hardly any scent. Thanks
Some people did report similar experiences and some also reported that they got a fake Hawas! It's pretty popular so I wouldn't be surprised. However, some batches had issues. If I were to guess, then my money would be on a bad batch.
i got a 2022 bottle of hawas a few weeks ago, it fades away after 30 mins, ive put it in my closet and will get back to it in a few weeks.
im gonna be super pissed if it doesnt become as "beastly" as people say .
did yours improve at all ?
@@sheshewantit45 did you ask your friends or family nearby is they're getting the smell? Maybe you may have gone nose blind? Also, most designer fragrances are released after they've settled for some time. If you'll notice, e.g. Mancera, Dua, Alexandria, the way their production works is most likely different from the usual designers. Lately, many have complained about Hawas which is sad to hear. Let us know what happens. Thank you for reaching out.
@@brian19869 nope it was not noseblindness as my friends could not smelll it unless they went really close to me and smelt my skin,. gonna get back to the bottle in a few weeks, in the meantime ive got some really strong ouds im using rn
@@sheshewantit45 i just hope it works for you. Do keep us informed. Glad that you have something else to enjoy in the meantime
Macération is real! They need to breathe. The clone brands are worse, and many require macération to mature.
I totally agree with you. Yes, some of those clones need a long time before their real character comes out. I guess they just wanna push products before things are in place cuz there's money to be made.
I got Armani Stronger With You Intensely and It's performing below average. Is this normal?
From what I've always heard is that this particular one always has great longevity. Excet for the OG, the other flankers were marketed with a promise of good lasting power. Where did you purchase it from?
@@brian19869From Boyner, which is a well known Company in Turkey. To be honest, I have no doubt that it is genuine.
@@brian19869 That's why i got pissed off. That was the main reason i bought it.
Oh no. That's sad to hear. I've almost never heard anyone complain about performance and I'm sure you got it mainly because of the great performance besides the scent profile. Isn't there a way to return it?
@@brian19869 If you look at Fragrantica there are comments like this. I cannot return the perfume.
But..
Does it matter if i keep the cap on or off while keeping my bottle in a dark place?
If it's a spray bottle, then it doesn't matter if th3 cap is on or off. The atomizer is already sealed tight on the bottle.
@@brian19869 Perfect , Thanks !
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thank you for sharing, i have a bottle of Cedrat Boise that I want to let mature for the summer and this video has helped a lot. Should I put it in my cellar or should I store it in my closet?
I'm very glad my video was helpful. Wherever you put it, just make sure it's cool and dark. Not too cold though. Celler or closet. Either is ok. Just don't forget about it completely. 😂. Let me know how it works for you.
How did the maceration of your CB work out?
Does macerating help just the performance? So it makes it last longer or it makes certain notes more dense, dark or detectable? Or it does both or only one thing at a time or it depends on the fragrance?
This is very different for each fragrance. I've described in a recent video with actual examples from my collection. The notes will mature and react in different ways since each fragrance composition is different.
Dylan blue’s performance is complete shit. But smells soooo goooodddd. Due to its shitty performance, I’d say it’s good for middle schoolers - high schoolers
I think the recent batches are very poor performing. I have an older one and it has solid performance since day 1.
@@brian19869think macerating the new batches would make it better?
Man, correct me and choose what is the best way for macerate method:
1.just dont unboxing and let the sealed box rest for a week in a cool place.
2.unboxing, remove the cap,put in the box again without cap, and let it rest for a week (without spray)
3.unboxing, spray 2x, remove a cap,put in the box again, let it rest for a week
4.unboxing, spray 10x, put the bottle in the box with a cap close in a cool place for a week
Please help me.
Because yesterday i buy a bottle fragrance new. And expedition shipping time into my house about 1 day. With condition of my country is a hot temp like 25-30celcious. When i unboxing, spray and sniff... Omg, i got something additional notes like rubber burn + more alcohol :,(
Hey friend. Thank you for reaching out. Let's get one thing out of the way. If it's a spray bottle, having the cap on or off doesn't matter. That atomizer is sealed in and the valve prevents any air getting inside a bottle unless it's actuated/sprayed.
Case 4 is the ideal one. Do like 6-10 sprays and keep the bottle away in a cool, dark place. Now, I understand the climatic factor, but let's say, you certainly have a place inside the house (closet, cupboard) where you keep clothes or stationery. Just leave the bottle in there, don't move it around. Let it sit.
Regarding the rubbery smell, that's a whole different story. I'm not sure which fragrance you bought, but there are ingredients in a fragrance (even expensive ones) where the ingredient reacts with your skin and emits that kind of smell. Some middle-eastern fragrances that contain real oud (there are various oud types) that sometimes behave like that. Hope that helps.
@@brian19869 update bro, after i spray 10x and let it rest just for 2 weeks, and i cant waiting more again, i testing and i spray and sniff, BANG.... No more rubber / plastic notes again.
Btw my fragance is armaf milestone.
One thing that i know there is have a plastic/rubber notes disgusting is, before i buy a full bottle, i buy a decant first. But when the bottle is come , i have a comparison. Thats why i get something different notes between a new full bottle and a decant of armaf milestone.
Thanks bro for reply....
@@amaterasublack3519 that’s wonderful news. Good thing that it’s working for you. 🙂
@@brian19869 now i have a new problem....
Actually yesterdar (18 febuary 2023) i just bought a new armaf untold, when the bottle arrived, i test, spray and sniff... Oh my god, i just smell a WATERY + HIGH ALCOHOL with a little bit candy note. Im so sad very very sad. What im doing now is spray 10x and lets macerate again for 1 month, and lets see what happend :,(
@@amaterasublack3519 yes. See what happens. Sometimes I hear people complain about fake Armafs being sold. Do check the authenticity of your bottle too.
MATURATION.
hello friend, I am planning to buy Rasasi Hawas and read some reviews about it. Do you recommend macerating it or is it fine to use it immediately when i receive it?
From what I've noticed in the community, the recent batches are good performers. Somewhere in between, Hawas had lost its charm especially in the department of longevity. It should be usable right away. In case you don't have a way to return it, then experiment with maceration. Just remember to find a good price. Don't overpay. Good luck and let me know.
@@brian19869 thankyou very much my friend, i appreciate you ❤️
@@brian19869I got mine recently and it's horrible,only lasts 30 mins projection wise and then becomes a skin fragrance
What's about Perfumes meceration in fridge?
I've never personally tried that, but all I can tell is that cooling will slow down any chemical reaction (well, most of them). Some chemicals behave differently when cooled, thus sometimes fragrances smell different when cooled. Again, sincebI haven't tried it, I can't go into too much details.
Don't bother to attempt this. You will just be stopping the process. The perfume requires temperature ranging from 40-60 deg, 3-4 hours daily to mature. If you don't own an ultrasonic machine, then I would strongly recommend leaving the perfume in room temperature as you might destroy certain sensitive notes with the temperature mentioned above. This way, it will take slightly longer to mature but much safer.
Good advice. 👍
I just got 3 bottles of Lattafa and they all perform
Horribly . I’ll get back to you guys in 3 weeks
I hope it works out. Maybe they're just pumping out products to boost sales so those batches may be suffering low performance.
It’s 3 weeks.
Good reminder
It's been 10 months how was it?
Lattafa ain’t sh*t. . All these reviewers are fake
You make NO sense to me! I will tell you why. If I get my favorite fragrance and spray it from the bottle, how in the hell is that fragrance getting any oxygen? It’s in a bottle with an atomizer on top. How is air getting into that? Please explain! Peace.
I highly recommend that you look into the mechanism of an atomizer. That should clear out any confusion that you have. There are tons of well explained videos with graphical illustrations which explains the science behind the mechanism.
@@brian19869 - Huh? I sure couldn’t find any. Besides, there is NO way that a fixed atomizer on a bottle is getting any oxygen. Makes NO sense! Peace.
@@darincampbell171 What do you think fills that space where there was perfume before?
Getting air in the bottle, either through opening a splash bottle to use, or through repeatedly spraying through a sprayer mechanism, allows molecular oxygen to enter the formula.
Bro can we also do a weak performing fragrance like Nikos sculpture macerate 1 to 2 months and make a beast? Is this working by all concentrations like edt or edc.. I hope you understand what i mean.
Best regards
Here’s the challenge. The designer fragrances usually spend a lot of time macerating in the factories because they don’t want people complaining why 1 bottle from the same batch performs better than the other. As for brands like Dua, they are composed and shipped out with little time to stay at the warehouse. I can tell you this; I have many designer fragrances in my collection and some past the 10 yr mark! Definitely some have either become stronger, changed color only with little to no effect on scent profile or performance and then there are those that have shifted scent profile slightly (usually the top notes dry down faster). Experimentation is what we can do only for designers.
good video. i tell you. even cheaper fragrances need time to develop. at least two years. not the fresh ones though. they need a couple of weeks only. that's my humble opinion. i am buying perfumes for 20 years now. greetz
Good information. 🙂 thank you for your input.
I have baught CDNIM pure parfume, product is original but lasting is bad, sir what should I do? To improve performance, how it become mature, how to mecerate? Pls guide
@@mzubaironline you use 1/10 of it. and then let 9/10 just sit for a year or so. anywhere where it's ok to keep perfume. that's it
@@youtubeisgaydotcom sir some expert people advising me, if i keep this bottle in fridge for 2 days and then keep for 2 week in dark n cool place it become better and beast, is this true or false?
@@mzubaironline i have no idea. i just told you how i do it. and this always works and is worth the wait
I got a perfume called after effect ( a clone of initio side effect) do i have to macerate it
So far, I'm aware that there aren't many complaints about longevity regarding fragrances from this brand. Are you getting lower than expected performance?
@brian19869 haven't tested it out fully yet but I sprayed it on my hand and it had an alcoholic opening. Is this normal
Yes, this can be very normal especially with clone houses. Best move is 5o spray in the air like 6-8 times before usion skin. Thst should greatly reduce the alcohol blast. Sometimes maybe a spray or 2 more depending on the situation.
@@brian19869I sprayed it on my skin before spraying it in the air.
@@rakinchowdhury194 lemme share something that happened with me recently. I bought a high-end fragrance and I've never experienced anything like it with this brand. Once I got the package, I immediately sprayed twice and the way that leather came off of my skin, I thought this was a bummer! Total waste. Since this never happened with this brand, I waited 2 days, sprayed like 6 in the air and then applied the fragrance for a second wearing. Bam! Did the trick and I was totally enjoying the real deal.