DEBUNKING Fragrance Myths - Testers Are Stronger? Fragrances Expire? Plus More
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- Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
- Hey friends, today I'm tackling a number of common fragrance myths and commonly asked fragrance related questions including - Are testers stronger than the fragrance sold in stores? Do fragrance discounters sell fakes? Is the bathroom bad for your fragrances? Does higher fragrance concentration always equal better performance? As always thanks for watching and thanks to FragranceUSA for sponsoring this video!
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As a trademark lawyer myself, I must say, you do a great job breaking down how to spot counterfeit sellers and discussing the grey market and considerations to make before purchasing online. Great video!!
Better call John
Fake seller? Call Keller
Hope I caught them all!
Myth Timestamps
1. Testers Stronger/Weaker 0:55,
answered 1:35
2. Online Tester Fakes 2:58
3. Tester White Boxes 4:18
4. Discounter Fakes 5:04
5. Concentration = Performance 7:18
6. “Cologne” = Cologne Concentration 9:11
7. Heat & Performance 10:55
8. Fragrance Expiration 12:13
9. Pulse Points 13:39 (bonus: clothes 15:23)
10. Spray Into Air 16:48
11. Rubbing-in 17:49
12. Test-Strips = Skin 18:55
Thanks :-)
Thanks for such a great video:)
👌🏾
You are a hero!
Thanks bro!
When I was young, I'd leave my cologne in my car all year, so I could apply when I get somewhere. The summers here reach as high as 110° and winters in the 30°'s. Definitely don't do that anymore.
Unmentioned Myth: you should smell coffee beans to ‘clear your olfactory palette’ when smelling multiple fragrances. When I went to Fragonard’s museum in Paris, they said just smell yourself- like the inside of your shirt/chest area. They said actual ‘noses’ don’t use coffee beans in the creation process.
The coffee bean myth comes from the idea that you can "wake your nose back up" by sniffing them. The issue is though, alcohol is an anesthetic, so sniffing coffee beans isn't going to do anything once your nose gets knocked out. The best way to counter this is to way a few seconds after spraying until the alcohol has dissipated.
LOL, even in Macy’s when I went to try some fragrances out, the saleswoman offered me the coffee sniffer tray.
The coffee helps me when my head hurts after smelling like 6 different fragrances
@@AntwanFuzznips Let the alcohol evaporate before you stick your nose in.
No, the only legit method is to sniff the nearest attractive female. It works, and women love it. Unless they don't, then you might have to shop somewhere else for a while.
Watched an interview with a famous perfumer (don’t remember who) and he was asked about “don’t rub your wrists together” advice. He said that this is a myth. First, you can’t “damage molecules” this way. Second, if you could, the physical act of spraying through an atomizer would put far more stress on the molecules than rubbing wrists.
He also said that they had researched the advantage of pulse points, and found it to be a myth, also. Pulse points are often recommended because the blood is closer to the skin so the skin is warmer at these locations. They studied this and found no measurable difference in temperature between pulse points and other skin locations
This is true and from experience I get better performance by sparing upper forearms instead of wrists because they won’t get exposed to water when washing your hands
When I apply a fragrance, I use a buffer and a hair dryer just to make sure it's really on there and hot.
@@mwpahl38 I favor a pressurized hot glue gun
It was Roja dove who said that iirc
It's nothing to do with molecules...it is friction heat which speeds the process of the longevity you'll go from top notes to mid faster.
hey gents , hope u doing really well , friends here with ash scents .
Interesting variation
Nice reformulation
I am glad I am not the only one that does this in my brain for my own amusement ahahhaa
Tell him he owes me $50 please.
😂cracks me up every time🤣
I buy testers for the simple fact that it’s more
cost-effective. even if there’s a slight chance that it’s stronger I’m all the way on board.
Has anyone else been kicked out of Sephora for carrying clones inside so you can judge how accurate they are? 😂
Not yet😂
That’s wild hahaha “hey I see you guys have a $200 bottle of Sauvage elixir but I gotta see how close this $20 bottle of Asad is to it”
myth 1: I mean what can be different is that the tester might be an older formulation compared to the products on sale... That could result in slight differences in performance or scent profile...
I'm sure the "spray it in the air & walk through it" idea is a relic of pre-1990's fragrances. So many were strong enough for that to be the only way to wear them with any subtlety.
Azzaro wanted by night is still that for me
Its still the only way to wear Joop Homme
@@MrC77 i smelled that scent for the first time, yesterday and holy moly. It was strong. But for me it reminded me of old men. So i didn't like it.
When a fragrance comes out if it gets reformulated they don’t use a new tester so sometimes testers are actually stronger if they were of the old batches , testers are used air gets in the bottle if it is sprayed from time to time alcohol will slowly evaporate leaving a more concentrated fragrance ect so yeah testers are usually better because testers are usually old batches my local store has 2019 eros the testers are 2013
Great video Ash! Love debunking myths! I knew a lot of this already, as years ago I did tons of research on fragrance chemistry and such (hey I’m a science teacher, what can I say…). Be well! 👍
Hey Ashton. Thanks for making videos everyday. You make my day that much better everyday. Keep it up!!!! 😁
At Department stores located in the US, testers and samples come from a initial batch or a separate batch during the rollout phase. The point is to get them in the hands of the sales people in advance to encourage sales during the initial rollout or presale. Sometimes there are variantS between batches. Also, as an effort to appease consumers and have a more impactful rollout, venders will make changes to the formulas based on early test groups and feedback. I know of one major launch, where the initial feedback was it was way to strong for the mass market. The next batches were much lighter. The venders or reps will then come by and switch out the old testers with the new or they’ll leave it in the hands of the store to dispose (which almost always is given out to associates). Sometimes, these samples are never picked up, and the sales people continue to give them out to customers.
The sample was simply beautiful and my bottle is just satisfactory.
15:39 thank you for answering this! I'm newer to the fragrance world and I've seen almost everyone talk about performance and how long they last and the general range always seems to be 6 hours at the lowest and like 12 hours at the longest but I've sprayed shirts or jackets and days later they still have the scent. I was like am I missing something or misunderstanding what they mean? This clarifies that wonder I've mine that I've had for the past few months!
Only just stumbled across your channel with this video and you have by far earned this sub. Really appreciate the quality of your video and editing and the character you put in behind your explanations and knowledge!
Great video. Perfect example of performance point u made. Polo green is an EDT and I get 10 to 12 hours EASY. Whereas The One EDP only gets me 4 to 6 tops
Interesting concept bro and you know I had to be here for it!
One of your most interesting vids brought up here. Love discussing these topics!
I just found your channel. I was looking for reviews on Phantom. Now Im here like Yaaaay a dude that wont shutup about perfumes. I love it
Great video Ash. This will really help the new guys and gals jumping on the frag train 👍😎
Sometimes when you think it’s fake.
It may be old, wrong storage, made in another country under license, your body is not compatible , and other reasons.
I thought I had fake Eros despite it lasting a super long time and smelling great. I’m thinking the tester at Sephora was bad actually.
@@sagew7377 everything I smell at sephora smells diluted and awful,idk if it's just me
@@kyiri21 Might just be your Sephora
all samples and tester I have ever had smells way more potent than the actual non-testers purchased... maybe its a case where the testers sometimes are slightly used and the fragrance somewhat oxidizes and has a better punch. Thats been my experience.
maybe coz the tester are the old batch, and the fragrance has been reformulated
@@residentevil999 reformulated just means they dilute it with ethanol. Don't be fooled by this UA-camr, if you don't believe me, spray the store sample on one wrist, then buy a bottle and spray the same amount on your other wrist.
Then compare the two. Case closed.
Billy Bob Thornton seems like the type who wears Secretions Magnifiques
I was thinking something more like Brut or Stetson, but I can see that. Lol
Great info 📹 and I enjoyed it and I agree with you a 1000 percent and have a blessed day
Very nice informative video! Would love to see more :)
Testers might be of the previous formulation and the new ones might be reformulated i guess, that why people think testers are stronger than their retail counter parts
I enjoy your content, great video! I have heard however, from smarter people than me, that the rubbing being bad for fragrances is a myth and that the amount of friction you would need to do this would mean you were rubbing your skin off.
I know a sales associate in a major department store who takes testers home and sells them on eBay!! Many do the same with sample vials too. So many times I’m in a store and ask for some samples and they say “We’re all out” lol So many find their way home with them and end up on eBay! Truth!!
I definitely believe this! I had a couple friends who have worked at these department stores. If u don't mind, can u post their seller info here? I like only buying from reputable sellers.
Ebay is full of people reselling items that have “not for resale” or “promotional item” stamped all over it.
@@DevanteMcDaniel is a reputable seller someone who steals fragrances from work?.. 🤔
@@mwpahl38
Call it what u want to, but at the end of the day, the fragrance is legit! That's all I care about....
@@DevanteMcDaniel I would think that the store they stole it from probably has legit fragrances also..
nice video again Ash.. very useful information specially for the newbie :)
Hy Ash! Great video! I would never guest most of these myths! Awesome!
It was very useful and your performance was so cool 😊
small samples seem to smell better than the full bottle.
Here is the issue with Testers. When you go to a retailer and sample off a tester bottle, if the fragrance you are purchasing has been reformulated, chances are, the retailer will still have a tester with the original batch on the counter. Even the 1ml samples they have behind the counter could be old samples from the original batch. The only way to really know is to do your research before you buy and not rely solely on the tester. In terms of buying a tester, if the fragrance has been around for a while, I rather purchase a tester as their is a chance you could be purchasing an original or older batch.
I don't think so. Testers run out quickly
This "older batch" thing is the biggest rip off in perfumery. Vintage LNDL, DHI and AHSEE EDTC batches have all been a waste of money for me personally. Unless the scent has really been changed drastically to the point it's not the same scent anymore the only thing you are going to get is a weathered scent devoid of top notes or worse spoiled curry. These aren't fine wines ppl. Even chasing old Creeds is dangerous despite the ingredients being different year to year. Your paying for minute differences a lot of the time. A lot of these Creeds never performed well to begin with and you are being overcharged for 🦄 bottles.
there really is no research needed. just smell the tester and retail box in front of them. they wont say no and most bottles are opened anyways
14:30 I wholeheartedly agree! I wear a watch and bracelet that move up and down my wrist so it’s a 90% chance that the scent won’t even make it past the opening. Even when not wearing them & spray my wrist, if I can smell the fragrance as a skin scent 5 mins in, I consider myself lucky.
Great info, Ash. As a “newbie” with fragrances, enjoy learning so I can enjoy my fragrances even more.
Now I would like to pose an idea for a video. I have $250 to spend on my first 3 fragrances. I want an office scent, a night scent and a casual scent. I don’t like scents that are too sweet. I want to smell like a CEO and unique. Can you suggest 3 fragrances in each category I should consider.
Ps. NEVER buy anything on eBay from Russia 🇷🇺!!!!’ 🤣🤣
“Russian Federation” haha
Their slashed prices should be the dead giveaway
Why is this? I was actually contemplating on buying a fragrance from someone located in Russia recently lol
They seemed legit, with 60 or so reviews and their page dedicated to selling fragrances at reasonable market prices
@@dustinkong221 don’t do it. U will be one of the ones learning the hard way especially if it’s a reasonably discounted price, u r setting urself up
@@blankmandastankman Thank you for your insight! It’s not super discounted, I was interested because it’s a vintage bottle. If anything it’s priced a lil bit higher than retail because of that
Are there a lot of scammers in Russia though?
Still have a bottle of Dune by Christian Dior from 1997. Only about 25-30% left but still wearable with no issues since I did store it pretty well over the years.
I destroyed quite a few bottles of fragrance early in my fragrance collecting because I kept my bottles out in the bathroom high up on the shelf where.... a) humidity gathers when it gets hot or more moist in the air, and b) the sun hit them because the bathroom window was high up. :(
Great video to start my day. And as usual a few laughs too.
Ooohhhh. Looking forward to watch all this
I once got some sprays of Duro on a jacket of mine, on my way out for the night. Weeks later, the jacket was still WAFTING Duro. Even after a couple of washes, I could still smell it.
I can definitely vouch for fragrances sticking to clothing for extended periods of time. It probably didn't help that Duro is also a beast of a fragrance.
Taste
Well explained. You are my English teacher by any means.
Testers are "Matured".
Like a beautiful experienced older woman...they are just amazing.
I offer to buy the tester when I do buy from a store, because they've macerated...they've condensed and they're what I'm actually TESTING.
And I did the same thing for my first home. Saw the model home...loved it...bought it fully loaded. When I sold it, I made a nice profit because it was the model home for the community.
Same thing with fragrances.
Thank you very much @GentsScents
I tried 2 testers on paper, both of Armani Code Profumo. One smells from the opening and all the way with a woody scent, the other was heavy on the cardamom, this was the first 2 hours. both eventually were similar on the middle after many hours.
I spray my fragrances on my inner elbow and back of my neck like you. Another point were I spray it is just on my upper torso. That's usually where I radiate or 'emanate' the most body heat from, so if I want something to really project, that's where I spray it. It can backfire if the fragrance is too deep though because then I really keep getting these deep intense whiffs of it all throughout the day and it can get a bit too much. So if it's a fresher one, that's were I spray it. The more intense ones go on the inner ellbow.
Great video thanks !!!
Fabulous review
Lol "I'LL TAKE UR WHOLE STOCK😂Yeah Ash, I agree.... fragrance are made for the skin only. Ah fragrance can't develop off test strips... "THUMBS UP"🥊🔔
My favourite place to spray is my clavicle. It's a great place for me, personally. I'll flap my shirt a a little bit to get it to a faster dry down & it gives a nice waft. Also, I often greet my friends with a hug (even in COVID times, we're all vaxxed/boosted/cautious people) so they get a nice warm hug from my scent at the same time. And lastly, I generally wear a scent for me, so on my clavicle, I'm always getting a nice waft from my Bentley Intense/Encre Noire/Moustache gentlemanly beastly bombs.
Awesome vid 👌
I think it's funny that people think rubbing the fragrance will somehow destroy it but never consider that bottle shaking or movement (like during travel or even simple handling), the mixture process itself, or the process of atomizing and spraying isn't somehow doing the same thing. Cracks me up. Study some fluid dynamics, people. Seriously.
100% agree. No way any mechanical shearing would affect molecules of this size / molecular mass. One of those myths - and easily debunked through a simple experiment: spray both wrists, dab them together for equilibration, rub one wrist hard with your finger and the other one only gently, compare the smell. Or better yet, ask your partner if they smell a difference left to right...
Mancera testers I've gotten come in the full presentation and just a white sticker on the box. If I had known in the beginning, I would have bought all testers lol
Yep just a plain white paper sticker slapped almost always sideways or crooked on the packaging. Was very suspious with my purchase as it was a blind buy so i went to a store and looked for the fragrance, store's tester was finished and the lady opened a brand new one infront of me, exact same white paper sticker with TESTER on it.
U r absolutely correct abt Savage I got both EDT first then bought EDP of it & I realized EDT of Savage is more noticeable thus I hold on EDT as my collection & using EDP if I ever use savage
Informative 👍🏿
I notice when I spray on clothes, some of my fragrances the top notes last longer.
Popular frags can often seem weaker because the testers have been pumped, oxygenated and had time to macerate. Fresh batches are made like any other industry yet people don't give them time to macerate. Take your frag home, ten squirts down the sink then put it back in the box and in the back of a dark cupboard for a couple of months. When you come back you'll get the performance you are looking for.
Best teacher out there .
On me, Pinaud Citrus Musk, although only an EDC, projects and lasts better than my average EDT (and I have dozens). The funny thing about that is, some people say it's weak and doesn't last. I do splash it fairly generously, but I'm also a heavy sprayer, so the comparison holds.
Fantastic video
Great. So when my fragrance ships from a discounter, sits in their warehouse, comes across the ocean, sits in a delivery truck, sits on my porch in the high heat; it will loose half it's life.
its in a sealed tight container so that doesnt effect it
Fun video!
Greatly appreciated
I'm learning a ton
Ash you are the best! 💯
I bet more than 70% of my collection was purchased past its “expiration”. A lot of discount bottles (at least of mine) are already 2-4 years old.
I recently bought a tester bottle and a new bottle of Cavalli’s Uomo and they’re identical. Totally debunked that myth for me. Perhaps some brands sneak a couple of powerful testers out into the wild in hopes of enticing potential buyers but it seems like a lot of effort for a small increase in buyers.
it's not identical, it's the same
how is it a lot of effort? when its just a slight difference in ratios
My batch code on like 2 of my Burberry frags say they're 20 years old made in 2001
Is it true that if our skin is low in moisture will it absorb the parfum oils and cause bad performance? Does putting lotion on first allow the cologne to stick to it so it’ll last longer? I would assume it would have to be unscented lotion lol.
I keep my fragrances in the original box in a closed closet, but if the temperature raises and it gets a little bit warm in my room (what I can't really prevent) does is still goes bad?
With regards to spraying fragrance on clothing, I do this all the time - However, there are some fragrances which smell horrible on clothing the next day.. the one i'm specifically thinking about is TF Tuscan leather. Will be okay on the day, but come back the next day and sniff your clothes and it tends to smell of this really animalic sweaty scent. Not sure if it's one of the naturals in there that literally goes off very quickly once exposed to the air, but yeah, really strange. Have tried multiple times with TL and always get the same result by the next day.
Interesting. Thanks.
Do you think people buy fragrances like Creed Aventus, then take the juice out to sell, then refill the bottle with a clone and return it? Maybe this is why we have so many batch variations?
Regarding testers, they sometimes smell different or perform differently due to maceration effects and otherwise batch variations or reformulation.
Comment for the algorithm. Much love 🧡
I have eros Edt tester before reformulatiom , performance is a-bit better compared to newer Edt formula I guess
Ash is just a joy to watch.
Thanks!
My Herod and Layton gone bad after 5 years now and always kept them in the box but in summer gets pretty hot everywhere in our house so a cooler would be best
I have a modest 10 bottles collection. I like to keep them on their boxes, but 3 of them are missing the boxes. I’ve tried looking EVERYWHERE online to buy empty boxes but no luck. Does anyone knows where I can find empty boxes for sale?
I dont like the way bdc edt breaks down on my clothes (smells weird). Imma stick to skin because i feel like they are formulated to be heated up by your body
So the lesser concentration of actual fragrance oil means a higher concentration of alcohol and other supporting molecules. So although there is less fragrance there is more components supporting its performance. It's a Mish mosh
This is very random but I walked into the gym with this video and caught myself after 3 sets of squats thinking in my head, I’m really squatting to Gent Scents and following allow, having opinions lol 😂
All fragrances degrade over time... It's inevitable. Alcohol is volatile... and it also affects the oils, which are volatile. Earth has atmospheric pressure = there is nothing you can do to prevent air/oxygen to get into a botte. Will it render the fragrance useless? No. if you still like it... use it. However, the scent won't be as originally intended, and if really old, and/or deep in color - it might stain your clothes. You might get a rash. For "normal" people, it's better to to find your favorite scents and use them. Mega collections are nothing more than a collection of pretty bottles in the end.
what about weather? now its summer in UK my house has been warm for days. i keep by fragrances in a cupboard and a draw, will this be ok
16:56 Titanic pose
I bought a Versace The dreamer from marshalls today but i think its expired. The manufacture date is in 2002. Should i just return it?
I buy my testers from a company that extracts them from the original bottle.... so no worries on my side
Aye gang share the info
Testers are mistreated in general for sure. Not that they are different as you said, but they aren’t stored properly for sure. I have smelled testers that I already know what the scent smells like and the tester is a watered down smell due to various things like being in light etc etc. I actually smelled a Creed Spice and Wood in a Saks once, that literally had no smell. I swear someone filled it with water. So sad
Cologne is a generic name all fragrances and perfumes, (of all concentrations) as modern perfumes were allegedly first made in Cologne, Germany. 4711 is sometimes claimed to be first!.
Not only that, men have an aversion to calling fragrances...fragrance and perfume, parfum. They sound girly.
awesome video
Hoping someone can make a time stamp, but these tester bottle myths had me thinking 🤔
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@@brynan6206 yes he is
I live in the south of Turkey where we can get up to 45 degrees celsius outside in the summer and room temperature can go up to 32-33 degrees due to high humidity. Is that a big problem if the temperature is consistent? We have the heatwave for 2-3 months a year and then normal temperatures. I store em out of light but cant put em in the fridge.
Behind the ears on the mastoids is my target spray zone. I have also moved my whole collection into the basement in a closet. Always darks and cool.
I go 100ml of Tom Ford Tobacco Oud in 2021 for $80 from Russia. It leaked during shipment and I got a refund, but the seller had me keep it! 100% legit, free, Tom Ford Tobacco Oud!
keeping it in the fridge?
So how does it go? Because I have toilette, eau de parfum, just “parfum” and extrait de parfum… also are you still taking pictures of collections? Thanks 🙏🏼
So if I never shower in the basement level bathroom, and keep my fragrances there, it should be ok? It's cool in that bathroom, gets only bulb light, and no shower to fluctuate temp or make humid. Should that be okay then, or still move them out?
Welp, you sure opened a can of worms with this one Ash..