WHAT IS MACERATION AND HOW IT AFFECTS PERFUME | WHY YOUR BOTTLE SMELLS DIFFERENTLY FROM OTHERS!
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- WHAT IS MACERATION AND HOW IT AFFECTS PERFUME | WHY YOUR BOTTLE SMELLS DIFFERENTLY FROM OTHERS!
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It is the job of these fragrance companies to macerate or age these fragrances before they hit store counters for consumer use. When I buy a cologne I like I want to use it right away, not put it away for two months. Makes no sense. Just like when you buy a bottle of scotch. You expect it to be already aged and ready for consumption. These fragrance companies are not only not doing their job properly, but they are also ruining fragrances with all this Reformulation and constantly watering down to cut costs and the consumers get the short end of the stick. They don’t even have the decency of putting a note on their products stating that it has been Reformulated. Very sneaky. I am glad that I stopped buying fragrances a while back. I refuse to be ripped off by these shady companies
The demand is high and people are willing to pay a lot more than what its worth so the distribute them.
That's what I've been complaining about for ages. Ain't nothing like pre 2002 perfumes. They were strong and good!! No more! Thanks to FDA. Now they make their money from the younger population who knows no better. Or else we could boycott them
Definitely agree when it comes to designer and niche fragrances, but when it comes to clones or just cheaper brands in general then it's kind of "you get what you pay for" territory.
Unfortunately time is money you want them to age it for you 300 dollars for 100 ml
@@jerwur39l94 They did age them back in the vintage days. I’ve been into fragrances for over forty years
Most of my fragrances smell better over time, but sometimes they smell different in a weird way. I haven't had any go bad, but one had a weird note I never picked up before. Still was good, but different. Another I had with a little left in the bottle that had been sitting for about 15yrs (Givenchy Pi) and when I sprayed it the booze note was so extreme. It was as if someone just poured a bottle of dark rum on me. However, second wearing after that the note was much less. I think a lot has to do with air going in and alcohol fumes in the spraying tube. Sometimes new fragrances smell awful for the first 3-5 sprays. After that they smell good. I notice this a lot more with the Arab companies too. It is very interesting to notice changes over time.
I have had a bottle of Dolce and gabbana Por homme since 2016, and when I spray that juice now, man, oh man! The juice got richer, deeper, and stronger. It's aging like fine wine. 😊
I have a bottle of dolce and gabbana pour Homme from 1995 and it smells incredible at this point. Something about this fragrance that just gets better and better.
I purchased my bottle in 1947 and trust me it smells too incredible.
Its much mature scent now☺️
Dude, my creed aventus from 1912 is so enrichened by now, it's so much better then the latest batches.
This topic was much needed.... JOEL THE NOSE KNOWZ...... "THUMBS UP"🥊🔔
Great and informative video... Good job 👍👍.... Fragrances are like a good wine, need a good macerate/time.
Just complementing what was said in the video, the maceration process continues throughout the use of the perfume, as the liquid comes out of the bottle and the oxygen comes in...
It's kind of a constant process. Some perfumes even "spoil". And the greater the amount of oxygen, the faster and more intense the maceration...
Fragrances smell better and get stronger as they macerate
how do they macerate, what should i do with my fragrance to macerate
I just got Club De Nuit Untold today (it's from a Dec. 2023 batch) and I sprayed it, and while I can tell it has some very good notes, and will probably smell amazing once it's macerated.. right now it has a gasoline-y smell. So I'm really looking forward to spraying it again in a few weeks and see how it smells then! ❤
Hi, How are you macerating?
how does it smell today??
Any updates after more than a month?
Thanks Joel great information
Nice info, thanks. Is that a plastic bottle your Indigo is in? Is that good for the maceration? Or is that good overall for storing fragrance? Will it leach plastic into the formulation?
I think this is why my small test bottle smelled so much better than the big bottle of Eros EDT i ordered :/ i hope it gets better
🤙🏻🚀 awesome video as usual 🤙🏻🚀
Thx!!
can we get a link where you buy fragance oils online please?
Im not perfume specialist, I'm not a pro, but I make perfume and I sell perfume, it makes sense we have to age it otherwise there'll be sedimentation on the perfume bottle, idk why I have done filtration but still it will be sediment after a week,
So I tried to mix properly and wait for at least a month before I pour it into a smaller perfume bottle
I've noticed that some fragrances are weaker with first sprays. I bought layton and it lasted 3 hours on my skin, after few months it lasted 10 hours. I think that the air have come into the bottle and the maceration process has continued in the bottle. Have you ever experienced something like that? Have a nice day ;)
I have had similar experiences where the fragrance is over a year old when I buy it but then as I use it the fragrance seems to change as it sits on my shelf and I use it and it's exposed to air.
The same thing happened to me with Layton and Scent of Peace by Bond No 9
This is happening to me now with Layton , new batch 2022 and lasting 3 hours with not much projection
Same here. Bought Layton and it's really weak after 1-2h it becomes a skin scent whereas it's supposed to have good projection. I spray it on clothes for now.
Happened to me with Dior savage. The first time I used it it lasted 2-3 hrs now it lasts 12+ hours. And it was only a week or so later.
what if i had a perfume made by someone else but entire notes are missing? the vanilla is completely missing from my fragrance and ive been told to wait for it to mature lol its been over a month i doubt the vanilla note is magically gonna appear overtime
For shure the maceration (maturation) is reality, concerning everything related with oils and alcohols with anykind level with oxygen.
Thank you for the video i want to share my experience i smelled narciso poudree at a store but when I bought it.
it smelled totally different does that mean I need to macerate it for a while or is it reformulated? Because I'm so disappointed 😞
I have a question sir, if after macerating, will the scent going to change as time past or it will stay in a specific smell for years after the macerating process? just like something reached its final transformation and it can't transform into something..Hope you can answer this sir, would really appreciate it.
I bought ysl y edp it smelled super good at the store and when I opened mine and sprayed it it’s completely different
Men’s fragrances are like bottles of fine wine…when first bottled, they don’t smell as nice as they do 6 months or more later. Like fine wines, they take a bit of time to “age”. I have had this experience with my favorite men’s fragrance, Antaeus Pour Homme. A new bottle smells sharp, even a bit citrusy. After several months, even years, it takes on a deep, masculine dark scent that is absolutely sublime.
Maceration is a term used in Mead making too.
Excellent video and really very informative 💯 👍
Keep it up brother :) ✌️
Thx Mido!
@@joelthenose sir can i ask you what carrier oil is the best for perfume making?thank you!im your new subscriber!
do they evaporate when u macerate?
my prada luna rosa carbon last longer now , aftr i let it macerate for a few months.i just bought an eros eau de parfum , about 3 months old , and it only last about 4 hours , very dissapointed , hope maceration will do the trick
Very informative!
Great video!!
question, how about maceration and the impact in performance, and I mean longevity...
I recieved orion by tiziana terenzi and it smells like pure alcohol, should i wait till it mature or smth like that?
thanks for the education
Thanks for the helpful video
Superb..!
Is Maceration something that happens more so with niche frags than designers? People told me my Creeds will get better over time (I just started buying em). Apparently Aventus gets a lot better over time, from what people have told me....even though it's a 20M01 batch.
The more natural oils that are used the more they change. Especially with heavier base notes, as they take longer to blend. Niche typically have more naturals.
Recently bought 2 fragrances Creed Aventus and Layton and I got newer batch for Creed and I heard newer batch doesn’t perform good, does that mean I have to macerate my Creed Aventus like you just explained in your video? Please let me know 🙏🏻
A year later… does it last longer? I just bought a bottle a month ago and it’s pretty weak. Wonder if mine will become stronger and last longer. Thanks
@@mattnazar5712I ran across this video on the topic while going through Aventus reviews and it helped me.
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They say it gets better over time! Have you heard that too Joel?
Very interesting.
My March 2022 bottle (2 months or so old) of Hawas has hardly any scent and no longevity or projection, yet it is talked of as being a beast mode performing fragrance
yeah . . . i have a 2021 bottle of DG pour homme and it's the same way......kinda shit cause I wanted that scent this summer but i guess ill have to check it out next year XD
@@myalt1204 I returned my HAWAS, it literally smells of hardly anything yet is meant to be a Beast Mode fragrance. I'm not impressed that they are distributing the fragrance when it's only just come out of the factory....with no scent!!!
@@steveparadox1 lucky u .. i dont get to return lol
gl on ur next purchases man
@@myalt1204 thanks buddy! I've got Missoni Wave due for delivery. £26 for 100ml 😎
dude, im here cause of the exact same reason lol, funny to see this comment here, i just got a bottle of hawas 2022 batch, it turns into a skin scent after 30 mins ... im so pissed as it didnt live up to the hype, so im going to let it sit for a few weeks unless someone buys it .
Interesting story! I think I have a problem with my pure parfum. It is an original, 2-3 month old batch but I reckon it does not last as long as it should do. I mean there is hardly any sillage after the first 10 minutes and the smell sticks very close to the skin, there it sits and developes for the next 8-10hrs. I'm very surprised as the pure parfum is said to be one of the strongest editions. Is this just me getting nose blind? Will other ppl smell it more than me? It does project more if sprayed on clothes or several times on the same spot, so yes, I'm definitely sure it is what it says it is.
Thanks in advance! :)
PS: My skin seems to absorb the scent very quickly. Is maceration the answer?
Are you talking about cdnim ? Did it improve?
@@Faigh_as it did, I read his comment on another video. lol. he's very happy, after maceration, 12 sprays, being complimented even after 7 hours of spraying. now he sprays only 5-6x.
6 of club de nuit intense?@@timotiusyap8787
I've heard that Armani Code Absolu has great projection. I got one and it is literally a skin scent after 15 minutes... i hope the maceration will help, because this is just sad. And it was pretty expensive.
Hi there. Its been 2 months. How does it perform now?
@@anexs idk xD, i don't use it, it is almost summer. I will let you know in october
I find Armani Code line is poor performing
@@tech-savant how is it now?
@@eslbaden I will let you know in a few days, i still haven't worn it, not cold enough..
Is a month enough for MACERATION ?
My CDNIM smells only lemon . What should i do to get its original smell
Which of the cdni..edt, edp or limited edition?
Moat tines when you spray your fragrance for the first time it take some getting used to. That could be the issues as well.
I checked my CDNIM yesterday and it was made 10 months ago, so my question is should I macerate it or not?
And how do I do it
That should be gd..I have went though over 5 bottles over the years..hav a new 2022 and its very weak I'm so disappointed hopefully letting it sit few months will help..I have empty 2020 bottle I just smelled the sprayer and it's polarizing Beyond beast mode compared to the new.
@@macadonis9242 hey bro , any update on performance of your cdnim?
@ivanpajnic3362 how ironic I was just touching on this..I have a rip off cdnim le version smh scam..all smoke zero projection gone in ten minutes so pissed that's been sitting for few months to Mancerate. The edts kill the limited edition. They are getting better slightly hour performance then gone..the edp is few months and kills all..that's getting better and scent is gorgeous. I purchased l'aventure intense and edt they don't last smh..so far edp cdnim winner. I'm debating on the not only intense stuff but hear that's been watered-down smh.
I got a versace dylan blue sealed but it was manufactured about 2 years ago . The smell is a bit strange , to me almost too alcoholic compared to sample I had . Would letting it sit for a while help it or is the bottle ruined ?
2 years is too short for it to be ruined
any update on this one? does it already smell same to the sample you had?
@@TheVoltarerXyz weirdly enough the sample was the one ''off'' , smelled dylan blue in shop and it smells like my bottle .
I was mistaking the ambroxan and grapefruit for ''alcoholic'' smell I think
Does anyone know how to do. Im reading just spay some out so gets air in the put away in cool dark place. My question is how long and cap on or off ?
Just leave it in a dark and dry place after giving it a couple of uses, it does work (for most of the fragrances) and you'll find noticeable differences within a month or two and it will keep getting better over time. No need to remove the cap.
@@VivekRajput-uo5rm thank you so much for the reply back. Can I use occasionally during process or does that negate the maceration results ?
@@russkelly9257 how is it now?
I'm a believer in maceration.
Hi, how do you do that ?
You didn’t tell us how to do it????
My Mancera Aoud Exclusif arrived 10 hours ago. 3 applications as mine doesn’t last or project. I wonder if it needs further maceration? Very disappointed at this point in time…especially after all the hype!
how do you macerate it?
Same here I had aoud exclusif and aoud lemon mint sprayed them for 2/3 days and wasn’t truly pleased . I liked them for sure but wasn’t pleased like how Black Gold, Hindi Cush and Cedrat Boise performed out the box. I let the lemon mint and aoud exclusif sit on my dresser for 4/5 months and I felt the scent was twice as better for the for sure. Give it a try
@@qmason9242 i recently bought Red tobacco and my batch’s performance is very weak, so macerating will make it better in performance you think?
@@qmason9242Haha! I was the opposite. Aoud Exclusif is a great performer, but I sent Cedrat Boise, Hindi Cush and Aoud Lemon Mint back due to awful performance! Maybe I should have waited for maceration, but that’s a lot of money sitting there if it doesn’t work!
My Amouage reflection man has macerated over time and gets stronger and stronger.
I just bought reflection man and it Doesn’t smell like my decant smell weird ,did that happen to you ? Should I let it macérate ?
While I think the explanation here mostly defines maceration, up to a point, it appears to be generally confused with maturation, as evident in the comments. Maceration is the extraction of essential oils from raw materials. Maturation is the time-bound process of letting your bottle sit. Maceration happens before your perfume enters its bottle. Maturation can happen before, too, depending on how long the perfumer wishes to have it "Mature" to achieve a particular result, but it can also happen after bottling. Many fragrances go through a short process, with the understanding that there will be an additional period of time passing as it sits in a warehouse, shipping, placed on sales floor, etc.
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My Versace Eros EDT is no longer sweet, smells weaker and much darker. It smells like alcohol initially now and goes to the scent after about one minute. I bought it at the end of 2016 and have hardly used it so it should not have gone off by now
It lasts about 38 months I believe
@@EmacEnvious Most fragrances last longer than their expiry and don't go off unless you store them incorrectly. I stored it next to my laptop, on my window pane by accident... I put it in my bag multiple times to carry it. I think it was due to me forgetting that I had placed it in a bad location and also the fact that this fragrance is made out of cheap synthetic chemicals that don't keep well nor is any UV protective ingredient listed in the ingredients. I most likely subjected it to far too much heat by accident
Your perfume rocked pretty hard, it seems. That's why. Cool, dark and dry place, no cars, no excessive temperatures and violative radiation, no computers. You shake'm from time to time when spray, keeping'm alive and that's all.@@jamesthefragranceguy
I have heard from perfumers that after a few years fragrances starts oxidation and even tho people think it has "macerated" and gotten better, a perfumer nose will know that the fragrance is going bad. I am no perfumer so I know shit, Im just learning and getting into the hobby.
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Oh my gosh I got Erba Purafrom scent box and was so excited for it to smell similar to Kirke.. but when I first smelled it I thought I was going to pass out from the stink.. it was like a rancid animal in heat or a teenager with extreme Bo or somebody's crotch.. but now a few weeks later, it smells like a powdery fresh spicy Amber. The musk is much more tame, or at least it is today. I still don't get the fruit bowl that others describe, but I will try it again some other time. I'm still scared to try it out on a date or something like that because if I end up smelling anything like I did the first time I used it, men would be appalled and run away! LOL I'm interested to see how it changes in a little bit of time.
How about now? Its been 5 month. It is back to normal?
@@amaterasublack3519 you know what .. it really isn't as musky now.. I still prefer Kirke as it's one of my favorites... I don't know what was going on with EP when it first arrived, but my goodness, it was stout with the animal smell at first lol it is quite a bit better now.
I just got my bottle of Erba Pura 2 weeks ago and I gotta say…I love it BUT I don’t get the nuclear room filling sillage that ppl are saying, I myself can smell it on myself which would typically indicate that I f*%led up and over-sprayed but nope no reactions. My mother who will be the very first person to tell me of my cologne is strong didn’t notice Erba Pura until she got in hugging distance. It last 8+ hours EASY but it seems like a intimate/hug compliment getter (every person I’ve had smell it loved it)
are you supposed to macerate first and get the final smell then add perfumers alcohol?
Perfumers do it different ways but the most common way that I have seen is to mix the fragrance oils with the perfumers alcohol together and then let it macerate. But some people do let the oils macerate before adding the perfumer's alcohol.
@@joelthenose ok. So doing it your way by adding perfumers alcohol will not weaken it correct ?
And for a 30 ml bottle what would your % be for the alcohol ? Ty so much this is helping me.
@@PrinceGBuddhait depends what concentration you want your perfume to be. For example, if you want to do an extrait at 20% concentration, you would have 6ml of oil and 24ml of alcohol.
@@joelthenose ok. Ty very much
You forgot to mention the OXIDATION part of maceration, which is the most important part!!!
Edit: maceration WILL NOT BEGIN until oxygen is introduced into the bottle!! Which means you must spray it 15, or so, times before putting it aside.
Antonio Banderas Mediterraneo - loved the smell, but it didn't last more than 3 hours. I left it in the back of the drawer for about 2-3 years.
Now it lasts 8 hours.
Hi everyone. Hoping someone can help as I’m new to this Maceration process.
I just bought a bottle of CDN MILESTONE. I pulled it out of the box and just smelled the atomizer. It smelled beautiful. But once I sprayed it, the scent smells like plasticky and nothing like the dry scent on the atomizer. It honestly smells really bad.
The bottle date says 3/2022 and Expires 3/2027. BATCH # 352736, 00933.
What should I do? Do I spray it more and put it away for a month or so, or do I just return it immediately? No way I’m wearing this like it is now. I’ll be hated wherever I go 🤣. Thank you all in advance!!!
Hellow, me to, it happend to my milestone. When i spray, there is additional smell like rubber burn or plastic that disgusting. All i have to do spray it for 10x, and put inthe box, let it rest for 1 month. Dont move it, dont use it, dont touch it, until 1 month. BOOM whoaaalaaaa now after 1 month, my milestone are back without any disgusting smell. Trust me. I do it
@@amaterasublack3519 Thank you so much. I’ve sprayed it at least 15x now and put it back in the box. I will not touch it for at least a month. Thank you again!!! 💯
@@sergiomeraz3507 yeah no problem for 15x some people say 30x. But for me 10x let it rest 1 month, voaaaalaaaa ALL BACK normal?!?!!!
Yesterday i got my new bottle of armaf untold, when i spray just like a water with little bit smell + more alcohol smell disgusting, now im doing macerate again for 1 month, and lets what happend.
@@amaterasublack3519 I hope your Untold smells great after you do that. I guess sometimes this happens. This was the first time this has ever happened to me with a fragrance. I’ve also purchased several from Lattafa and they were all great from the first spray. Fakhar by Lattafa is fantastic and lasts for a long time. (In case you want to try something with similarities to YSL Y.)
@@sergiomeraz3507 yeah, fakhar is my bucket list for subtitue purpose, because now my signature scents is milestone. So i can change it with fakhkar.
Okay ,next month ill reply this comment about the progress of my untold :'(
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So how is the proper maceration?
Hi, did you figure it out?
just use you fragrance, then open cap lit it sit, no matter dark place o not, just keep away from the sun, then you fragrance be better 👍 i do have experience my lattafa perfume it work 👍
How long should I let it sit without the cap?
@@vera.5804 a month.
@@vera.5804 a month, more better you put on dresser drawer.. you fragrance will more strong..
Most of the time fragrances just had to be macerated. They are mass produced so no time to wait few month in some storage. Every Go* Dam* frag that I have/had in last year had to go through the process. Saharian Wind -Mancera,Bentley Intense,Pure XS PR,Toy Boy,Detour Noir,Armaf cdni,Montale wood and spices! Biggest change was with PHILIPP PLEIN NO LIMITS! Ppl hate it coz of it's ugly looks but TRUST ME it will knock your socks off!
How i can macerate a profum? I have to let to rest for weeks without using? And without his cap?
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I really enjoyed the video, specially when seeing it with auto generated english subtitles @ 4:40, @4:52 where your perfumes were *masturbating* for six months 🤣😂 instead of macerating. Must watch with subtitles auto generated
It’s like a wine. It needs to rest Hope your well.
When make your trials, smell but don't make no one consideration.
Wait not only 1 weeks, but, patience, wait 1 or 2 months and you really will smell the real fragrance. Than you can consider
Encre noire is too weak even after maceration
Afnan 9pm oct 2022 batch anyone here?
Mine too weak keep it for 3weeks now i will try after two months
@@rs125honda5 how did it go I’m trying to purchase one
@@Rowdy_gamb0 now its ok very strong and the projection is good.
if ur gonna watch this, dont turn on CC 🤣🤣
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@@dadekusumo1 they must have upated the cc cuz it doesn't say masturbation anymore 😆😆
@@Louie.Oxford lol
Hello frag friends, I’m here because I got a BDC EDP and it lasts 45 mins on my skin, but still smells great.. bottle and box is legit as can be,
Side to side skin comparison with my older BDC 😥 the older one is strong on my skin after 4 hours even.
I’m hoping this new bottle is having this maceration issue, and I haven’t been duped. Batch 5802
Got batch 7103. I have the same issue. Could you please respond and let me know how your batch has turned out 3 months later?
Me: this perfume has weak performance...., You: let it for a year... 😅😅😅
Doesnt everyone already know about maceration? And the best perfumers should already have macerated their perfumes BEFORE selling it .
With the transportation of the cologne the oils arrive to you all shaken so you have to let it sit for 3-4 weeks for the oils to settle down
@@zimtswa149 Absolutely 💯 percent agree.
Some fragrances start to really macerate once the air is introduced inside the bottle for a period of time.
@@sibobibo9341 lol newbies gonna teach pros now 😂 go n watch cartoons bro
@@zimtswa149 can i use this method without spray it? Because my bottle is for backup bottle, so i dont wanna unboxing it. it is oke to let it rest and settle for a month without unboxing and spray it first?
Maturation…. 😑
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NEVER EVER JUDGE A PERFUME ON THE BASIS OF YOUR FIRST EXPERIENCE.
TIP:- Buy a PERFUME...spray it 7-8 times...and again pack it and leave it for 4-6 months (store in cool and dry place ) not in your bathroom.. but inside your cupboard or almirah...
I recently brought a bottle of Jaques Bogart one man show (light green perfume) old barbershop scent (1980) ...at first sniff..it was a pure nostalgia... but.. performance not more than 2 hrs..then I again visited the store..and asked the owner about the performance of the bottle, and he said that he hasn't received any complaint regarding perfomance though. Then I heard about maceration and thought to give it a try...I bought a New bottle Of Raghba Wood Intense and remove the JB One man show from my shelf for a couple of weeks... exactly after 5-6 weeks I again sprayed the juice and this time it's something else... Bit heavy... perfomance is increasing...and I guess 4-5 months..is all what it takes to settle..
If i just put a sealed bottle frag without doing spray, and i just keep the bottle in dark cool place for a month, can i call its macerate???? Becauseee my goal to not unboxing the seal is ,i just wanna keep my frag for backup purpose only
@@amaterasublack3519 some air must be there...backup bottles must be strong 😁
@@Negi-7 can we use it while it macerates