In Slovenia that is a fact in first division. For some time, ambitious clubs in Slovenia that play continuously in the international or regional cups (Krka or Cedevita Olimpija) do not even try to sign rookies direct from NCAA unless the have know some personal background (Aloyisus Anagonye who came to Olimpija in 2003, for example, was teammate with former official Radovan Lorbek son, Erazem Lorbek in Michigan State) from them. That were words from one assistant coach from Cedevita Olimpija Ljubljana. Even in some of that exceptional cases, player can get signed for a small amount and loaned to some other slovenian club in first division. Just to see if he can "survive" in a new enviroment. Teams that play only first slovenian division, they are different story, they sign rookies for probably the same amount that you mentioned here - in minimum scenario. But you have to understand the situation, because giving opportunity is a risky move for a low budget level clubs too. But sometimes these players do not last in slovenian legue for long, because whenever they find their game better contract appears, they are gone to Belgium, Turkish second division, Germany etc. It is probably same in Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Serbia
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Great info. Thanks for sharing. Yeah, especially for imports and foreigners it's a serious investment for these lower-budget clubs even if their salary is low because they have to pay for their housing, VISA, transportation etc. It's not just the salary as people think.
An example that can support Jose Colorado's point of view with some perspective, in Israel, whose league is regarded middle of the road among European Leagues, top division teams rarely consider bringing foreign rookies. I recall a single exception to this who started out with around $60k on his first contract, but came with a resume as a prolific scorer with 4 years of experience on a top div 1 NCAA team who was a late cut from an NBA summer league camp, so in essence someone just short of being accepted to an NBA roster that could have played in the G-league. The gamble ended up paying off as he was named league MVP and ended up with a contract to play for Maccabi in the Euroleague the next year for around $250,000. In other words, the talent was there for him to rise rapidly to the upper echelon of European ball. He even made it to the NBA for a short span at one point. Typical Div 2 or 3 players fresh out of college are valued as role players with talent levels comparable to the locals - a fair judgment in most circumstances. They normally begin in division 2, but only if they are eligible for an Israeli passport to play as locals. I listened to a podcast with such a player who claimed that on his 1st year he earned $700 per month net, plus lodging, meals, and a vehicle that he shared with a teammate.
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Very insightful comment once again! Thanks for sharing! Upward mobility in overseas basketball can be quite fast if the stars align.
Definitely a new subscriber an really like what your putting out so far, this my 2nd video I seen from your UA-cam very helpful, still trying to understand/ jot notes for my journey to do my best to get it right the best way I can , again so far overseas is making more since to me by looking at your videos 💯
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That's amazing to hear and happy to help! Feel free to also check out my personal blog where I cover even more overseas basketball topics that aren't on the UA-cam channel. www.josecolorado.com/
Great story I have seen stories of many players expecting to make 800k or high six figure salaries when in reality they will barely make 700 a month this is real eye opener and all of the hype about overseas basketball isn’t what people think it is.
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Definitely. There’s a huge misconception of what overseas basketball really is and how competitive it truly is! It is a humbling experience when beginning.
@ yeah i have heard plenty of stories of players not getting paid on time, players getting scammed, players barely making any money etc… its really not what people think they said it is
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@@eddierosario1537 yup. And many will be too ashamed to admit it. So they go through it alone.
So how long does it take for a avarege player to start making like 100k or more
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Depends on the level of the player. Some start off making 100k right out of college. Those are high level NCAA guys. The vast majority will never make 100k playing overseas.
I’m sorry about that I ment bank wise switching your USA bank money to overseas until you figure out your side hustle if that makes since
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@@twrld13 It's always important to have an account where you can actually access the money when you're overseas. You never know what may happen. Usually many countries will have at least one or two American bank branches.
I'm still confused about taxes while abroad and even ability to have a side hustle legally
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If you are playing at a mid-low tier level then usually you will be responsible for reporting your own income to the government. Higher-tier teams/levels will be more formalized. Here's a quick read if interested: www.josecolorado.com/blog/do-overseas-basketball-players-pay-taxes
I have a question have you ever seen any short people play in any of these leagues?
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Yes, of course! Some countries/regions will actually look for quicker players (usually end up being smaller) since their demographics don't usually produce them.
Hey! I just wanted to know if we get a salary of less than 1k a month, will they usually provide like food and shelter? I'll be in Europe for a camp next month man, so your response would be very helpful. Thanks.
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That will really depend on the league and team. As a general rule, shelter will - and should - almost always be covered. Food will vary. I've seen lower-level leagues only cover partial food expenses. That would look like five meals a week or maybe two meals a day are covered. Others cover it completely. Whenever you can try to get it completely covered, of course.
BTW i found out some short players have gone pro so yeah I wasn’t saying it ina. Offensive way I think height gives an advantage but some have managed to win without it
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Height is a definite advantage but many players are able to get past that with supreme skill and athleticism.
Wban players cry about making 70k a year where D1 high top teir guys make that when they the best players on the overseas teams Or some average overseas guy making 500$ a game sad
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I think the bigger concern for women is female hoopers are paid more overseas than in the WNBA. So it's the opposite in women's basketball. Yet, the WNBA is clearly the best level of basketball in the world for them. The majority of WNBA players are also American and they want to stay home. They're in the top 1% of their profession so they've earned that right. As for men, yes - it is no joke! You better LOVE this game with every inch of your soul or you will be out soon.
My previous question about short people is nothing against them it’s just I’ve been told before everyone is tall and you can be too short to do it so I’m not sure if in some pro leagues you can or whAt
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No. There are definitely shorter players in many leagues. There are players of all heights in all sorts of leagues. Of course, teams love height and length though.
So let me get this straight…we commit 15 years to training for 40k a year…plus room and board 9 months out of the year. I think we will stay on school 4 years.
@@gothicgolem2947 bro…we can make 40k a year sweeping floors now aday…in order for all this work I am putting in to count I have to collect at a minimum 250k a year for 10 years.
@@weston_bey huh how?? If you can how are there homeless people? And it’s not all about the money it’s like teaching you do it if you love it even if your not gonna be rich. Also you get the chance to see the world and get promoted and earn more
In Slovenia that is a fact in first division. For some time, ambitious clubs in Slovenia that play continuously in the international or regional cups (Krka or Cedevita Olimpija) do not even try to sign rookies direct from NCAA unless the have know some personal background (Aloyisus Anagonye who came to Olimpija in 2003, for example, was teammate with former official Radovan Lorbek son, Erazem Lorbek in Michigan State) from them. That were words from one assistant coach from Cedevita Olimpija Ljubljana. Even in some of that exceptional cases, player can get signed for a small amount and loaned to some other slovenian club in first division. Just to see if he can "survive" in a new enviroment. Teams that play only first slovenian division, they are different story, they sign rookies for probably the same amount that you mentioned here - in minimum scenario. But you have to understand the situation, because giving opportunity is a risky move for a low budget level clubs too. But sometimes these players do not last in slovenian legue for long, because whenever they find their game better contract appears, they are gone to Belgium, Turkish second division, Germany etc. It is probably same in Bosnia, Croatia, Montenegro, Macedonia, Serbia
Great info. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah, especially for imports and foreigners it's a serious investment for these lower-budget clubs even if their salary is low because they have to pay for their housing, VISA, transportation etc. It's not just the salary as people think.
Great video! A lot of people don’t know the truth behind it all.
Thank you. Appreciate that. Where are you playing now?
That's rough....I remember when they were paying me 5K a quarter starting out.
No 🧢?
🧢
interestingly i watch these vids cause there interesting im not even looking to become a basket ball player but keep up the good work great vids
That's awesome bro. Happy to entertain!
An example that can support Jose Colorado's point of view with some perspective, in Israel, whose league is regarded middle of the road among European Leagues, top division teams rarely consider bringing foreign rookies. I recall a single exception to this who started out with around $60k on his first contract, but came with a resume as a prolific scorer with 4 years of experience on a top div 1 NCAA team who was a late cut from an NBA summer league camp, so in essence someone just short of being accepted to an NBA roster that could have played in the G-league.
The gamble ended up paying off as he was named league MVP and ended up with a contract to play for Maccabi in the Euroleague the next year for around $250,000. In other words, the talent was there for him to rise rapidly to the upper echelon of European ball. He even made it to the NBA for a short span at one point.
Typical Div 2 or 3 players fresh out of college are valued as role players with talent levels comparable to the locals - a fair judgment in most circumstances. They normally begin in division 2, but only if they are eligible for an Israeli passport to play as locals. I listened to a podcast with such a player who claimed that on his 1st year he earned $700 per month net, plus lodging, meals, and a vehicle that he shared with a teammate.
Very insightful comment once again! Thanks for sharing! Upward mobility in overseas basketball can be quite fast if the stars align.
Definitely a new subscriber an really like what your putting out so far, this my 2nd video I seen from your UA-cam very helpful, still trying to understand/ jot notes for my journey to do my best to get it right the best way I can , again so far overseas is making more since to me by looking at your videos 💯
That's amazing to hear and happy to help!
Feel free to also check out my personal blog where I cover even more overseas basketball topics that aren't on the UA-cam channel.
www.josecolorado.com/
@ what’s the blog name
@@twrld13 Got you right here bro.
www.josecolorado.com/subscribe
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Really good video. Subbed
Appreciate that! Glad it could help.
Great story I have seen stories of many players expecting to make 800k or high six figure salaries when in reality they will barely make 700 a month this is real eye opener and all of the hype about overseas basketball isn’t what people think it is.
Definitely. There’s a huge misconception of what overseas basketball really is and how competitive it truly is! It is a humbling experience when beginning.
@ yeah i have heard plenty of stories of players not getting paid on time, players getting scammed, players barely making any money etc… its really not what people think they said it is
@@eddierosario1537 yup. And many will be too ashamed to admit it. So they go through it alone.
@ you have any other videos on this topic? I heard it’s really rare for players to even touch six figures
@@eddierosario1537 very rare. And I have one where I break down one of my contracts that touched upon the topic too.
Great video 💯
Thank you! Glad it helped.
@ where did you play??
@@mujtab8siddiqu1 My first pro job was in El Salvador (LMB, 1st Division).
@ that’s impressive man, thanks for taking the time to answer,
@@mujtab8siddiqu1 No worries. Thanks for checking out the video. Hope it helped.
Can you work from home and play in eba at the same time?
Of course. In fact I’d say that’s how you SHOULD be doing overseas basketball.
I’ve had an online job my whole career.
So how long does it take for a avarege player to start making like 100k or more
Depends on the level of the player.
Some start off making 100k right out of college. Those are high level NCAA guys.
The vast majority will never make 100k playing overseas.
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An also hypothetically speaking can you just switch over your money that you saved up to wherever your at until you find that side hustle ?
I'm not sure I understand the question my man.
I’m sorry about that I ment bank wise switching your USA bank money to overseas until you figure out your side hustle if that makes since
@@twrld13 It's always important to have an account where you can actually access the money when you're overseas.
You never know what may happen.
Usually many countries will have at least one or two American bank branches.
What’s your advice for someone at 30 who wants to play in Qatar?
Are you Qatari?
I’m from Malaysia.Basketball is not really famous here.Is it possible to make in the NBA?
Of course. As KG said "Anything is possible!"
Malaysia has an established pro league going.
I'm still confused about taxes while abroad and even ability to have a side hustle legally
If you are playing at a mid-low tier level then usually you will be responsible for reporting your own income to the government.
Higher-tier teams/levels will be more formalized.
Here's a quick read if interested:
www.josecolorado.com/blog/do-overseas-basketball-players-pay-taxes
I have a question have you ever seen any short people play in any of these leagues?
Yes, of course!
Some countries/regions will actually look for quicker players (usually end up being smaller) since their demographics don't usually produce them.
Hey! I just wanted to know if we get a salary of less than 1k a month, will they usually provide like food and shelter? I'll be in Europe for a camp next month man, so your response would be very helpful. Thanks.
That will really depend on the league and team.
As a general rule, shelter will - and should - almost always be covered.
Food will vary.
I've seen lower-level leagues only cover partial food expenses.
That would look like five meals a week or maybe two meals a day are covered.
Others cover it completely.
Whenever you can try to get it completely covered, of course.
ua-cam.com/video/O3_fgvHgRTY/v-deo.html
BTW i found out some short players have gone pro so yeah I wasn’t saying it ina. Offensive way I think height gives an advantage but some have managed to win without it
Height is a definite advantage but many players are able to get past that with supreme skill and athleticism.
Mine was 500 dollars lol this year 2021
lol Where at?
Wban players cry about making 70k a year where D1 high top teir guys make that when they the best players on the overseas teams
Or some average overseas guy making 500$ a game sad
I think the bigger concern for women is female hoopers are paid more overseas than in the WNBA. So it's the opposite in women's basketball. Yet, the WNBA is clearly the best level of basketball in the world for them. The majority of WNBA players are also American and they want to stay home. They're in the top 1% of their profession so they've earned that right.
As for men, yes - it is no joke! You better LOVE this game with every inch of your soul or you will be out soon.
My previous question about short people is nothing against them it’s just I’ve been told before everyone is tall and you can be too short to do it so I’m not sure if in some pro leagues you can or whAt
No. There are definitely shorter players in many leagues.
There are players of all heights in all sorts of leagues.
Of course, teams love height and length though.
whats a NCAA?
NCAA = National College Athletic Association.
It's the highest level of college basketball in the USA (world).
@ ohhhh ok thx
So let me get this straight…we commit 15 years to training for 40k a year…plus room and board 9 months out of the year.
I think we will stay on school 4 years.
Do you, champ! 💪
@ it’s the only way…if the league not an option
@@weston_bey hows it the only way? you can get room and board sometimes food and 40k a year plus side hustles it is possible
@@gothicgolem2947 bro…we can make 40k a year sweeping floors now aday…in order for all this work I am putting in to count I have to collect at a minimum 250k a year for 10 years.
@@weston_bey huh how?? If you can how are there homeless people? And it’s not all about the money it’s like teaching you do it if you love it even if your not gonna be rich. Also you get the chance to see the world and get promoted and earn more