Since Jason likes rhymes, I have one for him: "If ya can't load the clip, ya can't take the trip!" Time to get christened by the M1 Garand, brudda! You got this.
Great video gentlemen. Enjoyed the knowledgeable opinions. The M-14, G3, and the Galil are 3 of my favorites. But my SHTF rifle is an AR-10 style PSA in 7.62 NATO with 30-round mags.
There exists a timeline where NATO as a unit adopted the FAL in .280, I will forever be saddened that we do not live in it. There exists a timeline where the US followed through in it's word and adopted the FAL, I will forever be angered we do not live in that timeline. In this timline I have a modernized G3, and that makes me happy.
I'd love to see the Tavor 7 kitted out as much like a Morita rifle from Starship Troopers as you can legally or functionally practical-ish. Also, the introductory video must have an I'm-doing-my-part routine as well as a would-you-like-to-know-more screen in whatever kind of rendition Classic Firearms can or will deliver. That or you can aquire a bullpup chassis for an m14/M1A and get a little closer of a rendition to it because that's how the morita was made. The underslung shotgun could be of the pump-action or semi-auto variety or even a dual-system action like the benelli M3 or SPAS-12. If a masterkey is too illegal, then maybe a shockwave style with the bird's head grip and either have one with an 18" barrel to avoid the SBS tax (for here in Missouri, that is) or just have whichever shockwave you put on there like the a panzer arms or Garaysar brand model that can suit the role. It would also be nice if the Tavor 7 could have a 20" barrel instead of the 16.5" one I typically see on your site, but if it isn't available, I'll settle for the longest you have for the giveaway. I'm also glad the Tavor 7 actually got featured in a video, and it got some love. It's one I had my eye on for a while because it was a cheaper and seemingly better alternative to the MDRX in 308
If WW3 started today...the M77 would be my first pick off the table followed by the BM-59! Great video guys... even though you hated on the wood and steel 🤣!
You mention the warranty on the SCAR being voided if you suppress it, but it goes further than that. The SCAR 17S, while capable of firing .308, is not chambered for .308. I'll explain what I mean. The barrel of the SCAR is stamped 7.62x51, however the upper-receiver is stamped "Multi Caliber". This, however, does not mean that the SCAR can fire both 7.62x51 and .308. What this actually means is that the upper receiver is capable of taking the SCAR 20S 6.5 Creedmoore barrel assembly as well as it's 7.62x51 barrel. The barrel itself is ONLY meant to have 7.62x51 fired through it. So if there's some sort of malfunction and damage to the weapon is caused by the ammunition, and the ammunition used was .308, you've just voided your warranty. I reached out to FN America support and confirmed all of this with them. Use .308 at your own risk.
You guys can't give Jason any grief for picking the Tavor 7 out of bias lol. Everyone said they gave it a 7 or a 6 because they don't like or have practice with bullpups, which is bias lol.
SCAR-17 but you have to update it with all new aftermarket parts like rails, lower to take p-Mags, better muzzle device, etc. Update it to address your complaints.
I would love to see a POF USA Revolution (hmmm.... DI or OG Piston?) in a broad brief comparison such as this with it's relatively lighter weight and compressed design (AR-10 in a 15's footprint)...
Seeing them all fire in succession was a cool perspective. The Spear looked nice and steady for the power it delivers, but the M-14 looked superb for its age.
As a rifle you can depend on and fight with, the G-3 gets a 9. But the ergos and especially the trigger take it down to a 7.5. That concept in a modern housing with a good trigger would be a 10!
I use to own a m1 Garand. After glass bedding and doing all possible gunsmithing including shooting match grade ammo I could only get it to 1.5 moa. With a modern M1a loaded, glass bedded, national match guide rod, and gas piston I was able to achieve a .70 moa scoped of course. With little more gun light gun smithing I am able to achieve greater accuracy and have a garand style action.
I don't know if you guys get this often but could you implement your chapter function on UA-cam more? I love watching your channel and seeing what yall are doing but sometimes I wanna jump around or wanna see one specific part of a vid. so if you guys CAN implement it more that would be awesome but if not no worries, still love yall
My choice hands down is the H&K MR762-A1 - It's got one of the best BCG's in its class w/ a linear center of gravity with or without a full mag. And when the gun is in battery it sends steel down range with the best of them for a . 308 heavy
Interesting video you all put together. I would be hard pressed to pick a winner out of that group. I must say that I am really disappointed that I didn't buy up a bunch of metric and inch pattern FAL kits of various kinds and receivers when they were readily available and cheap.
As far as I know, they haven’t seen battle, but are battle styled rifles, however, I really like my Smith&Wesson M&P 10. Ambidextrous controls, light weight, accurate, uses AR10 mags, eats whatever I feed it, and is (at least was when I got mine) reasonably priced.
I love the mcx and I’m hoping to get a hold of the spear and hope it’s even half as good as the mcx has been for me. It be my number one pick of all of these
I have loved the G3 ever since I got a chance to shoot one when on a field exercise with the Germans, back in the 80's. I have put a red dot on my PT91 for two-gun competitions, and it still serves me better than I serve it. But the gun I want you to optimize with a LVPO and a can is the SIG Spear. Then let me win it. :)
Have used the g3 as a service rifle (swedish army); that thing is heavy to log around. Great precision, but heavy as f**k! The latest in the army, designated Ak4D, is a great dmr.
@@cornfedchris58it’s the most modernized one on the table. And if the M14 was in the EBR chassis it would’ve gotten a 7.5/8 from me. Can’t please everyone though ….🤷🏿♂️
I haven't shot the Sig Spear, but do have the HK MR762 and while I don't mind the mag release not being ambi, I definitely wouldn't mind having an ambi bolt catch/release.
I would like to see any of these as a give away. If it's mag fed, give 6 mags with it along with the protective case. Then stick what ever you can on it. I'd really like to have a M1D (sniper version) to go with my other military rifles I have in the safe.
Mars h ftw imo. Pretty versatile gun. And the barrels are available if u know where to look. I have one I’m building so I’m biased lol. But go from di to piston, 6.5 to 308, whatever barrel length you want. Sig has these capabilities, except the di part. Lmt is full ambi, reliable, battle proven, and overbuilt. Only knock is no adjustable gas. Good video though fellas.
I think you should have had an LMT reference rifle L129A1 or similar given the price point you went to. Only because I’m curious and it’s made of unobtanium.
I actually agree with Jason about the FAL. Had it for a while and never got completely comfortable using it. Something always felt a little off when manipulating the rifle. It was fun to shoot, just a little off.
There are a rail section you can put on the Garand so you could put that Eotech on it . I put one on my M1 Carbine but can’t bring myself to do it to any of my Garand’s . I plan on getting an M1A Socom and will probably put the HOPCO or Badace mount where you replace the rear sight .
A M1 garand with a GI sling and clips all the way down the sling with a ww2 stock pouch with more clips. Would absolutely do it for me. Like maybe 10 clips total included in this? Idk I think that would be a super rad giveaway
6 arc Proof carbon barrel, Gibbz upper, Diamond AR trigger, Timber Creek carbon handguard, Wilson Combat carbon buttstock, silent buffer with a ajustable Sharps bcg topped with Continual 3-18x50 scope. And a cherry bomb muzzle brake with a custom can on the end. 6 pound gun with a lot abilities If you use a clip on thermal.
I don't know your opinion of Barnal ammo, but I absolutely love it. Barnal loads their ammo hotter than other manufacturers, and I appreciate that. I have never had a ftf, ftl, or fte with Barnal, and every gun I have used this ammo in ran flawlessly.
Ar10 would be my first choice,m1 garand would be my second if modernized it would be higher with the enblock clips as without the extra mag wieght you can carry mor ammo
If you want to put a red dot, or a long eye relief scop on a M1 Garand use this. (UltiMAK M1 Garand Forward Optic Mount). I personally would not, but if you want to.
I'm a fan of the older style rifles. The Garand and M14 are my favorites. The AR10 would be up there for familiarity since I own an AR15. The M14 and Garand were my dad's favorites. He used the M14 at times in Vietnam. He loved it's accuracy.
four different size guys, four professional opinions, I think this is an awesome video, now for other rifles!
For real there’s small medium large and extra large. 😂😂
Since Jason likes rhymes, I have one for him: "If ya can't load the clip, ya can't take the trip!" Time to get christened by the M1 Garand, brudda! You got this.
Great video gentlemen. Enjoyed the knowledgeable opinions. The M-14, G3, and the Galil are 3 of my favorites. But my SHTF rifle is an AR-10 style PSA in 7.62 NATO with 30-round mags.
15:01 Dude I laughed out loud when Kaya was one handing the PTR 91
Would expect LWRC mk2 REPR making to the party as well.
They NEVER put LWRC in these challenges. IDK why not?
@@patrickmcdermott4818 agree
@@patrickmcdermott4818 cuz dey win
The REPR should have absolutely been in this. It's arguably the best out of all of these, but im biased towards mine.
There exists a timeline where NATO as a unit adopted the FAL in .280, I will forever be saddened that we do not live in it. There exists a timeline where the US followed through in it's word and adopted the FAL, I will forever be angered we do not live in that timeline. In this timline I have a modernized G3, and that makes me happy.
M-14 is better
@@TexasNationalist1836: 😂🤡
@@Doublezzranch i really enjoyed when you provided evidence as to how the FAL is better than the M14
Functionality in mud. Modern controls. Adjustable gas system. Fal wins.
Oof, multiverse theory.. there's a timeline where I'm master chief from Halo too..
I like how they started including the prices of each one.
You needed an Alec Cameo for this. Proven. Reliable. Galil.
This channel was at its peak with Alec.
@@icu_corey_rn_903 100%
7.62x39, 300 blackout , 5.56 rifles coming next I hope
Each one brings its own unique blend of power, accuracy, and reliability to the table, making it tough to pick a clear winner.
Unique blend of power? They were all in .308 except the one in .30-06 lmao
Would have loved to see an XCRm in there
Love the m1 grand
I would have to have a B&T
APC308 with the night force attacker
kudos for the video, because this is one of the few videos of Any youtuber that I watched thru without changing speed and finished!
The B&T price tag and it won’t shoot steel case that’s a shame.
I'd love to see the Tavor 7 kitted out as much like a Morita rifle from Starship Troopers as you can legally or functionally practical-ish. Also, the introductory video must have an I'm-doing-my-part routine as well as a would-you-like-to-know-more screen in whatever kind of rendition Classic Firearms can or will deliver. That or you can aquire a bullpup chassis for an m14/M1A and get a little closer of a rendition to it because that's how the morita was made.
The underslung shotgun could be of the pump-action or semi-auto variety or even a dual-system action like the benelli M3 or SPAS-12. If a masterkey is too illegal, then maybe a shockwave style with the bird's head grip and either have one with an 18" barrel to avoid the SBS tax (for here in Missouri, that is) or just have whichever shockwave you put on there like the a panzer arms or Garaysar brand model that can suit the role. It would also be nice if the Tavor 7 could have a 20" barrel instead of the 16.5" one I typically see on your site, but if it isn't available, I'll settle for the longest you have for the giveaway.
I'm also glad the Tavor 7 actually got featured in a video, and it got some love. It's one I had my eye on for a while because it was a cheaper and seemingly better alternative to the MDRX in 308
I realize how much time and work (and ammo 😊) went into this video and just want to say thank you to the CF crew. Good content
If WW3 started today...the M77 would be my first pick off the table followed by the BM-59! Great video guys... even though you hated on the wood and steel 🤣!
Been digging the content with Aaron and Jason lately
I’d go with the galil ace with an eotech and magnifier, fore grip and different muzzle device. Simple and effective.
You mention the warranty on the SCAR being voided if you suppress it, but it goes further than that.
The SCAR 17S, while capable of firing .308, is not chambered for .308. I'll explain what I mean.
The barrel of the SCAR is stamped 7.62x51, however the upper-receiver is stamped "Multi Caliber". This, however, does not mean that the SCAR can fire both 7.62x51 and .308. What this actually means is that the upper receiver is capable of taking the SCAR 20S 6.5 Creedmoore barrel assembly as well as it's 7.62x51 barrel. The barrel itself is ONLY meant to have 7.62x51 fired through it. So if there's some sort of malfunction and damage to the weapon is caused by the ammunition, and the ammunition used was .308, you've just voided your warranty.
I reached out to FN America support and confirmed all of this with them. Use .308 at your own risk.
Great video, can you guys do a comparison sig vs POF Revolution vs Adams Arms vs HK
I loved my Springfield 1903-A3 bolt action. Was very accurate and the bolt action was very quick getting next shots on target.
The 417/G3 and also the FAL and the LMT308
Great video, four different options with different backgrounds, for myself Sig Sauer MCX Spear 16”
You guys can't give Jason any grief for picking the Tavor 7 out of bias lol. Everyone said they gave it a 7 or a 6 because they don't like or have practice with bullpups, which is bias lol.
Tavor 7 seems like the most versatile gun on the list. You could probably run CQB with it. The others would add a degree of difficulty.
Love my Tavor 7. Only weapon I own I can go from CQB to range. Up lose or out to 700 all day. LPVO does the trick every time.
SCAR-17 but you have to update it with all new aftermarket parts like rails, lower to take p-Mags, better muzzle device, etc. Update it to address your complaints.
My M-14
Has the issue with the over insertion on the Spear been solved?
I would love to see a POF USA Revolution (hmmm.... DI or OG Piston?) in a broad brief comparison such as this with it's relatively lighter weight and compressed design (AR-10 in a 15's footprint)...
LMT MARS-H 308. can be swapped for both DI and Piston. Oh, and you can get the 13.5 CQB version. Jason this is for you ;).
loved the comparison with 4 different shooters. tkx guys
Where is the Ruger SFAR the winner out of the whole bunch?
lol
H&K MR762 with Nightforce ATACR 1x10 and Cloud Defense Rein 3 light.
Atacr is a 1-8
Seeing them all fire in succession was a cool perspective. The Spear looked nice and steady for the power it delivers, but the M-14 looked superb for its age.
You guys are doing great things with this channel. Still wish you guys would change the little background jingle once in a while lol
They've had it for years but I still love it
I’m with Jason on the m14. The Fal is overrated due to its historical story.
And it’s just meh…..🥴. It like a daewoo, 🤣
As a rifle you can depend on and fight with, the G-3 gets a 9. But the ergos and especially the trigger take it down to a 7.5. That concept in a modern housing with a good trigger would be a 10!
I use to own a m1 Garand. After glass bedding and doing all possible gunsmithing including shooting match grade ammo I could only get it to 1.5 moa. With a modern M1a loaded, glass bedded, national match guide rod, and gas piston I was able to achieve a .70 moa scoped of course. With little more gun light gun smithing I am able to achieve greater accuracy and have a garand style action.
I don't know if you guys get this often but could you implement your chapter function on UA-cam more? I love watching your channel and seeing what yall are doing but sometimes I wanna jump around or wanna see one specific part of a vid. so if you guys CAN implement it more that would be awesome but if not no worries, still love yall
My choice hands down is the H&K MR762-A1 - It's got one of the best BCG's in its class w/ a linear center of gravity with or without a full mag. And when the gun is in battery it sends steel down range with the best of them for a . 308 heavy
Do this again with the top 5.56 rifles.That Spear is top with the 417.But put that M14 in an ebr chassis and I'm in.
You guys should try out the Robinson XCR-M in 7.62.
I've heard some pretty good things.
Interesting video you all put together. I would be hard pressed to pick a winner out of that group.
I must say that I am really disappointed that I didn't buy up a bunch of metric and inch pattern FAL kits of various kinds and receivers when they were readily available and cheap.
Great video guys. Keep em coming.
Rip Alek 😂 only the real viewers know
Just gone or totally rip gone?
PROVEN..... RELIABLE..... GALIL....!
Nuff Said
As far as I know, they haven’t seen battle, but are battle styled rifles, however, I really like my Smith&Wesson M&P 10. Ambidextrous controls, light weight, accurate, uses AR10 mags, eats whatever I feed it, and is (at least was when I got mine) reasonably priced.
Almost all of those rifles have seen battle.
This Quatro is really growing on me keep up the content!
I love the mcx and I’m hoping to get a hold of the spear and hope it’s even half as good as the mcx has been for me. It be my number one pick of all of these
Would kind of like to see some POF reviews.....got a .308 before they went with the lighter version....really like it.
Sig spear MCX in .308 and an m1a in .308 are my personal battle rifles
Need Ruger SFAR and Robinson Arms XCR.
Just observing, I thought that HK ran really smooth. Great video.
You should try the xcr. And maybe an ar-10 that isn’t the sr-25.
M14!
Awesome video with great subject matter.
All are beautiful and get the job done. I love new and modern however I love the M1grand and other iconic firearm symbols
M14 DMR and MCX Spear are the best on the table
I like how Clint tries to shut down Kyia saying you didn't even shoot it, then they cut to a video of him shooting it 😂
Fun fact. 343 used the sound of a SCAR as the basis for the MA5D assault rifle in Halo 4.
YES, as to the mention of LMT Battle Rifle at the end, but what of the LWRCI REPR (MKII) ?!
Meh
The LMT has a quick barrel swap system you can make it the same barrel length as the repr
Would love to see how you would rate the POF Revolution relative to these, or at least the Sig and Tavor 7.
M-14 with the arch angel precision stock FTW
I have loved the G3 ever since I got a chance to shoot one when on a field exercise with the Germans, back in the 80's. I have put a red dot on my PT91 for two-gun competitions, and it still serves me better than I serve it. But the gun I want you to optimize with a LVPO and a can is the SIG Spear. Then let me win it. :)
What muzzle device do y'all recommend for the galil ?
Have used the g3 as a service rifle (swedish army); that thing is heavy to log around. Great precision, but heavy as f**k! The latest in the army, designated Ak4D, is a great dmr.
And just so you know, the g3 in the swedish version, ak4, is designed to fire an over-the-barrel grenade. Kicks like a mule.
I love Jason’s ratings. Tellin it like it is
Nah he’s wrong. He poured compliments into the spear but gave it an 8. He gave nothing above that so there’s no real context to his rating.
@@cornfedchris58it’s the most modernized one on the table. And if the M14 was in the EBR chassis it would’ve gotten a 7.5/8 from me. Can’t please everyone though ….🤷🏿♂️
Be nice to see LWRC in on the action
I miss Kayde
Hilarious hearing these guys turn into kids geeking over these toys
I haven't shot the Sig Spear, but do have the HK MR762 and while I don't mind the mag release not being ambi, I definitely wouldn't mind having an ambi bolt catch/release.
The REPR didn't make the cut?
I would like to see any of these as a give away. If it's mag fed, give 6 mags with it along with the protective case. Then stick what ever you can on it. I'd really like to have a M1D (sniper version) to go with my other military rifles I have in the safe.
Galil all day everyday but that m7 got me thinking twice now
Mars h ftw imo. Pretty versatile gun. And the barrels are available if u know where to look. I have one I’m building so I’m biased lol. But go from di to piston, 6.5 to 308, whatever barrel length you want. Sig has these capabilities, except the di part. Lmt is full ambi, reliable, battle proven, and overbuilt. Only knock is no adjustable gas. Good video though fellas.
Any of the top 3 or the M1 Garand would be an absolute pleasure to win, in my opinion.
I think you should have had an LMT reference rifle L129A1 or similar given the price point you went to. Only because I’m curious and it’s made of unobtanium.
M1A SOCOM
I actually agree with Jason about the FAL. Had it for a while and never got completely comfortable using it. Something always felt a little off when manipulating the rifle. It was fun to shoot, just a little off.
Great content, so I'll definitely be doing more future business with Classicfirearms
Why not use the M1a socom? It’s more like the other rifles
Garand has the best man making sound.
There are a rail section you can put on the Garand so you could put that Eotech on it .
I put one on my M1 Carbine but can’t bring myself to do it to any of my Garand’s .
I plan on getting an M1A Socom and will probably put the HOPCO or Badace mount where you replace the rear sight .
A M1 garand with a GI sling and clips all the way down the sling with a ww2 stock pouch with more clips. Would absolutely do it for me. Like maybe 10 clips total included in this? Idk I think that would be a super rad giveaway
Cool work! Would have liked to see SIG SG 510 in 7.5 Swiss in comparison to its contemporaries.
6 arc Proof carbon barrel, Gibbz upper, Diamond AR trigger, Timber Creek carbon handguard, Wilson Combat carbon buttstock, silent buffer with a ajustable Sharps bcg topped with Continual 3-18x50 scope. And a cherry bomb muzzle brake with a custom can on the end. 6 pound gun with a lot abilities If you use a clip on thermal.
I don't know your opinion of Barnal ammo, but I absolutely love it. Barnal loads their ammo hotter than other manufacturers, and I appreciate that. I have never had a ftf, ftl, or fte with Barnal, and every gun I have used this ammo in ran flawlessly.
Should have an accuracy shootout at 500 yards with iron sights (I predict Garand and m-14 for the win)
Ar10 would be my first choice,m1 garand would be my second if modernized it would be higher with the enblock clips as without the extra mag wieght you can carry mor ammo
Saiga 308 little heavy but works.
Hahaha Can’t wait for the meltdown either! @MagdumpMorgan, I’ve got a Mars H you can play around with when y’all come up!
JMO.... the FAL was ahead of it's time when it came out. Still love how stream lined it is.
The M 1 Garande and the M 14 in my opinion were the best.
A FAL contest would be very nice!
If you want to put a red dot, or a long eye relief scop on a M1 Garand use this. (UltiMAK M1 Garand Forward Optic Mount).
I personally would not, but if you want to.
M1-A with iron sights, AR-10 with a scope
I'm a fan of the older style rifles. The Garand and M14 are my favorites. The AR10 would be up there for familiarity since I own an AR15. The M14 and Garand were my dad's favorites. He used the M14 at times in Vietnam. He loved it's accuracy.
Where is the FAL? How did they got get "the right arm of the free world"?
Let’s see “best build” for all of these 👍
Averages:
M1 Garand = 5
FAL = 5
M14 = 5.75
G3 = 6.87
BM59 = 4
Galil Ace = 6.75
M77 = 6.12
SR25 = 6.37
SCAR17 = 6.5
MR762 = 8.25
Tavor7 = 6.75
APC308 = DNF (Kaya gave it a 9)
Spear = 8.5
(Not in video but mentioned as a 10, LMT Mars H)