The Full Story of the FEV Lab - What Happened Here? Why Brian Virgil is a Hero
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Fun fact: I thought Swan was a swan. Scared the life outta me when it wasn't
Lol
Radiation sure did a number on swans...
Was spamming the VATS key like I usually do... saw an enemy called swan..... attacked it because I thought it was just a swan...
I realized that when hes in his ball, nothing can hurt him i learned the hard way. And of course it had to be with big boy and an mirv launcher.
I literally walked past him in the pond wondering what all the warning signs were for. Had a laser rifle as my only gun with ammo
After I found the dead cats in the Institute I sided with the brotherhood.
Mc Uber Boss oh yeah. I saw the dead cats and almost ran out into the institute guns raised.
Where?
Elephant Warrior On this mission? In the institute? It's even in the video?
Too bad the Brotherhood also kills cats...
What? They're trained to eat ANYTHING in the wasteland to survive.
Crimson Ichor Cats are way too fast for their bulky suits! Plus Danse would never kill a cat ;_;
Strong was a Italian chef before mutation. He looks for milk of kindness to turn it to cheese to make the legendary pizza of kindness.
Official Goose Studios maybe strong was a cat. xD
Where did you find this information? What are your sources? I've been trying to find the milk human kindness for 3 years!! Give. Me. A. Location. Now.
Official Goose Studios new head canon
😂
Omar Mejia he’s joking
all Virgil had to do was open his heart to the power of Atom. live in the glowing sea with no FEV needed
Atom is a lie, sister Gwyneth spoke the truth
Broke bois talking about basegame children of atom
Drelude far harbor is whack
@@hinchmiester9199 agreed
@@P3891 well, the atom isn't always fissible, that's right, but that revelation would make them want to detonate nuclear bombs instead of dying with them, and also, it could be considered a deity, Atom creates all life, atoms are the component of every single object or living being in the universe, that could also be worsipped, and radiation could simulate the power that Atom has, just as now. Then consider fission (Division) as a holy act, IDK, maybe instead of comulgate as christians do, they pray a reactor or detonate a nuclear device. That wouldn't interfere with the main faith or with the reality of an atom
When he became human again how did he intend to get back from the glowing sea?
Good question!
Anthony Williams I have always wondered that.
He might have a hazmat suit stashed in cave.
Pretty sure he never intended to go back.
He's using the Glowing Sea to avoid the Coursers coming after him. Think about it, Synths wouldn't be able to survive in the glowing sea so he's safe from retaliation from the institute if he stays there.
***** And the BoS, unless the SS is with them.
Thing I don't get. They've been wanting clean subjects for almost 100 years, but upon finding a vault filled with frozen clean subjects which they could extract one-by-one at their leisure... they instead leave them all to rot? Sure the gen-3 synth project was becoming their new priority, but the FEV project continued for decades after, still needing clean subjects .
Orders from the director
@@alidib9284 for a secret organization run by scientists, they don't seem to be the brightest bunch of lightbulbs.
@@JuanSolo9 I know
Old comment, but They wanted to save the other frozen Survivors in case Shaun was a failure. Kellogg Cereal acted out when they shoot Nora/Nate which you can see the Institute scientist with him look a bit flustered based on the body language.
This is enforced by the fact Kellogg walks up to the players tank saying "We have a backup" Now I assume the other frozen residents were already dead upon Institute arrival due to the malfunction in life support or died after they secured Shaun thinking the systems would work as intended.
Though if you read the logs in the vault the system would glitch out and not keep a resident frozen or would have other issues. This is how I assume we as the Sole Survivor end up getting out rather than dying like the rest. This glitch in the Vault's systems occurred years after Shaun's kidnapping.
But in the logs all the dead residents died the same way. Lack of Oxygen due to life support failure.
So either Residents died before the Institute showed up and only 2 pods were still functional with life support and people inside or The Institute was ignorant and believed the systems would hold and continue to operate despite their meddling.
@@francisharkins when you visit the memories of Kellog, he say that he donut know why kill the rest and no put in them in cryo stasis alain.
(Heavy machine gun noises)
X6-88: Wait, Did you hear something?
Honest to god this is my favorite story. FEV has haunted me since Fallout 1 and the master. AS SOON as I found out the institute was taking innocents and testing the shit on them they became my sworn enemies. Don't get me wrong FEV brought me one of my favorite video characters of all time. In Harold. And one of my favorite companions in Marcus. But the HORRORS that virus brings. Hell Swans story when I first stumbled upon it in my first play through made me so so sad. To hell with the Institute!
Seconded, completely agree.
Brotherhood brotherhood
Not even gonna mention my boy fawkes huh?
no love for Lily?
Mankind - Redefined .
Sorry even all the bad experiments and suferement the institute is better than the brotherhood of robbing tecnology and be racist
Not sure if someone else has addressed this, but there is a further aspect to Swann. In one of the letters, he references that the punishment beats scrubbing floors all day. This was still fairly early in the development of synths, and I suspect that he was a janitor.
Specifically, I suspect that he is a reference to the 1966 novel, Flowers for Algernon, which features a mentally handicapped janitor, Charlie, as a protagonist. Charlie undergoes a treatment in a scientific study to raise his intelligence, which was successful. The story is told through his journal entries, and like Swann's notes there is a clear change to more advanced prose and concepts as the treatment progresses. Charlie, as with Swann, joins the research team, and is the one to discover that his intelligence is in fact unstable, and begins a rapid decline. At one point during this period, Charlie flees from the research lab with the mouse, Algernon, that was the test subject before him, among a number of other similar events to Swann's story (bursts of rage, etc.). As his decline worsens, Charlie's prose also degenerates, ending with a final, roughly worded plea for someone to place flowers on Algernon's grave.
Additionally, the short story that formed the basis for the novel was published in 1958, within the timeline of divergence for the Fallout universe.
Also, excellent video as always! Nothing makes my evening like seeing a new Oxhorn FO Lore video has been uploaded!
I realize this comment is 3 years old, but I thought of Flowers for Algernon myself watching this video, and you're the only other one to have seen the possible connection, so I just wanted to say kudos. I think you're right.
so i gave virgil his serum and he's a human again. and after looking around his cave, i um...noticed that he has a red dress in a suitcase under his shelf by his bed...
virgil is secretly a crossdresser
Oh my!
Oxhorn thats actually the real reason he left the institute. he wasnt allowed to fully be himself. so he exiled himself to pursue his dream of being the most bootilicious drag queen scientist
Damn
chikkin nuggit
Funny because I found a "laundered denim dress" in that suitcase instead, lol.
I just found clean army fatigues under his shelf
When you bring Strong, he has some very "Strong" opinions about Virgil :-D
Raymon Rodenburg 😂
Ill check that out thanks
I think the dead supermutant with the toys in the room was actually a little kid that turned into a grown up supermutant. That would explain the child's toys. And we have never seen any supermutant children, did we?
I doubt it. The Institute has done terrible things, yes, but I highly doubt they would sink that low. Those were there likely just to see if the mutants knew how to use them, or just to see how would they react. Is it cruel to do that to a cat? Considering how rare they are, it's outrageous.
@@bluethunderbolt9631 "The Institute has done terrible things, yes, but I highly doubt they would sink that low."
If I remember correctly, they murdered a parent trying to protect their child, kidnapped said child, and left the spouse (who was forced to watch it happen) to be frozen for another 60 years...
@@JuanSolo9 Minus the freezing parent part, it sounds like something that could be happening right now on an alleyway, in a city's suburbs.
What the Institute has done to the SS is despicable. But it's nowhere near the worst thing they could've done. They could've got rid of Shaun after they got the DNA. But they kept him safe. Educated him. Look, there's not a shred of doubt in my mind that the Institute will kill kids if the situation calls for it. But I don't think they're cruel enough to experiment on children. They're isolated. To them, the outside world became expandable. They took your child away from you. But they kept him in safest place there is. The FEV experiment was horrible. But not unforgivable. Does it really make that big of difference? In their dungeons could've taken shelter raiders and Gunners. There still is danger. There's still the occasional lost Deathclaw, the random radscorpion attack, mole rats attacking from below... the only difference reallyare the behemoths. Although it is kinda nice knowing that if one takes shelter, people take notice and avoid said area, essentially creating a safe passage for the ones crazy enough to use them.
But I'm getting off track.
Is the Institute bad? No. Are they good? Still no. They're that awkward faction that falls in the middle. Too many bad things done for a good cause. The Institute under the SS has a lot to atone for.
fuck the institute. Wiping them off the planet is the best thing to do.
@@bluethunderbolt9631 they let loose super mutants loose on the Commonwealth they replace people with bassicaly android clones of saif person and have leveled towns for a item of theirs so yeah their very bad maybe not everyone in the Institute but the things they do harm more then help
Headcanon: the cats in the FEV lab died of natural causes since there's no sign of injury and they are just calmly laid on their side
It could be very easy to label Virgil, along with all the other scientists on the FEV project, evil. However, Virgil is the one that decided to put an end to it. While others “were just following orders“ he defied expectations, committed what he knew would be considered treason, and left everything he ever knew and loved to do what he believed was right. It’s really easy to label the entire Institute as nothing but cynical, evil scientist- I believe most of them are, in fact- but there are always rays of light.
Institute is humanity over the individual or ethics
Jesus dude...... it’s just fallout
K
Their are some members of the institute that are loyal to the institute that I actually like.
the institute is just vault-tec lite. they see the commonwealth as nothing but test subjects in one way or another. even if he opposes the FEV tests, he still condones them replacing people with synths.
Experimenting with FEV is like playing with fire. You can either be careful with it and everything will be fine, or you can be reckless and spread it with everyone and turn them into sterile mutants who would ruthlessly kill people for fun.
I almost joined the institute after hearing father’s plans for the commonwealth and the wastleland but then i found this lab and i went straight to the prydwen.
I still joined. I wanted to end the brother hood and I just dont like the railroad they dont understand they're robots with no life
@@0Yvonne0 they're not robots with no life
@@solllua they're robots with no life
@@ITR933 they're not robots with no life.
@@0Yvonne0 but the robots die when they’re killed
Completely unrelated: If you take McCreedy into the library he makes a Ghostbusters joke. It's pretty funny.
Too much Overwatch, pal, his name is MacCready.
m'lady
Heh
For those too lazy, he says something to the effect of "We should be careful. Clearly no human being would ever stack books this way."
Never played Overwatch. I don't bother with filthy console peasant junk.
I've never spotted Swan's notes! Too busy trying not to die to the rads, I guess.
Thanks for this, fascinating story!
come to the institute, they said...
we're working for mankind, they said...
Your current profile picture makes this so much better
@@0Yvonne0 robots have a fucking life idiot
I don't comment very often on UA-cam but I feel the need of telling I absolutely love your videos, the builds and the random stories about Fallout 4. Keep up the good work my friend....
Thanks for watching!
hi Oxhorn, great video. what mod is used to have interactible / lootable objects with a white grow / outline? that is super useful
@@oxhorn sup ox
@@Discipol This is very late, but I'm pretty sure that's a perk.
@@ericamborsky3230 You’re almost 4 years late😳
The Swan segment is a nice homage to "Flowers for Algernon."
I loved Flowers for .Algernon
Humans hide underground like mole rat, Strong will smash them all!
Dude Opinion( Prank in the hood gone wrong)(Gone sexual)(Feminist triggered)(bleach drank)(Dog gets booty raped)(11 year old does nudes on knockoff mp3) (Mom catches doge in the hood)(Santa caught smoking grass)(Mom finds faez rain jacking off his car)(Scarce jacks off to car porn ) (New type off pokemon caught)
Strong go back in your den
モ爪モ尺S工口れ 匕口匕丹ㄥ wut
*Grabs fat man* *goes on console* *shrinks Strong* *puts godmode on* *shoots Strong* and fuck this hit I'm out
try it bud our finest NCR snipers have their sights on you
would be amazing if Bethesda released a documentary of fall out, from the day the bombs fell to current events, even what happens to the places after the story ends. Curious what is going on in d.c., new vegas right now.
I agree
I so very agree
All I know that according to the wiki Harden Simms has become the sheriff of Megaton in 2297 and that he would talk about his father’s death and blame it on the Lone Wanderer when drunk. It’s also been said that Moira Brown has also started working on the biography of the Lone Wanderer that same year. I think Sarah Lyons has also died somewhere between Fallout 3 and 4 but there doesn’t seem to be much information on this.
It would probably kill the myth
Summarizing every Oxhorn video -
“Your inventory is full and you cannot run”
That isn't about Oxhorn videos. That is every playthrough of fallout 4 and skyrim.
I had intuited the connection between "disappeared" people replaced by synths and the FEV subjects -- but I thought that was just expediency. This video gives me a different perspective: I think the FEV program was the core of the Institute. None of the explanations for the synths had made sense; there were vague intimations of "perfecting humanity", but Father himself didn't consider synths human, at least until the end. The synths were designed FOR THE PURPOSE of replacing FEV subjects. Perhaps Father considered this more "humane". I'm looking forward to your Institute video.
you missed a swan's pond note that says,"I AM SWAN"
The truly horrible thing is that the Institute continued the programme despite it not yielding any results. Kind of like how "doctors" and "scientists" like Josef Mengele kept experimenting on people in the extermination camps despite their crazed ideas not working. At all. But having a nearly unrestricted supply of test subjects and no consequences for failure and/or human suffering can erode one's humanity over time, especially when everything is rationalized with two arguments: 1. Those who're being experimented on are lesser beings and 2. That it's all for a greater good.
The Institute clearly sees itself as being better, superior and more pure than the "corrupted" people of the Commonwealth. They could live their lives in a perfect bubble where everything was done by robots and slaves and the consequences of their actions never came back to hit them in the face.
It is worse than that I think. The Institute could have contained the results of their failed FEV experiments by just terminating the muties right then and there. Instead these mutants were “discarded” ie released upon the Commonwealth to kill and eat who knows how many humans! Why did the Institute unleash these monsters upon the Commonwealth?
Because Father believes that the Commonwealth is a rotten decrepit remnant of “humanity” that must die. X688 echoes this belief, claiming that “the sooner the surface dwellers die off, the better”. So, Father deliberately continued releasing super mutants hoping they’d exterminate all life on the surface.
@@brainconqueror8095 Father has stated he wants to save the surface, and he only thinks it's unsalvagable after he saw it in-person. Plus, Father had anticipated the Sole Survivor's arrival and didn't want to accidentally kill his own father, no pun intended
@@theinternetpolice2078 if that is the case, why not send Coursers to exterminate Swan and the other muties infesting the areas around Diamond City and Goodneighbor? So that it would be easier for you to find Nick Valentine and with his help, get to Kellogg? Or for that matter, why not have a scientist and some synth escorts be ready at Vault 111 when he released you, to safely whisk you away to the Institute? Why sit back and watch as you “trudge through the filth and decay of the Commonwealth” as X-688 so eloquently puts it?
Father reveals why, on the CIT roof - you were just another experiment he was conducting. He turned you loose just to “see what happens” and was pleasantly surprised when you thrived and found a way to hijack the Institute’s transporter. He even states that he has no feelings of “love” for an abstract person that was his parent. He didn’t care about you, he only saw you as another tool to be used. And I suspect that him naming you Director to succeed him is his lasting legacy to the Institute - a final experiment in which they all are the subjects. Name a completely unknown person as Director and see what happens!
@@brainconqueror8095 Partially, but since the PC isn't really a scientist the only logical role for your character is to replace Kellogg. By killing Kellogg the SS becomes the new best hope as a surface operator and confirms the PC as a useful asset for the institute. Imagine convincing the board the PC is the man for the job, now imagine this guy single-handedly wiped out the single best operator they have and trekked all the way across the commonwealth to do it. Utility is gold for these guys so it makes the character a more legitimate fit for the institute. Remember, by the time you get to the institute you have killed not only Kellogg but at least 1 courser, at this point the SS is a serious person.
@@mattmcdonald7112 and then Father turns around and appoints the SS as the new director of the Institute!
Your character creeps me the heck out
Well note I don't regret nuking the Institute.
Naruku2121 yeah screw all the innocent people that had nothing to do with FEV
Tech priest
Jokes on you, me and the Minutemen evacuated the innocent ones. And gave some of the scientists setters jobs in Vault 88.
Naruku2121 still good Job destroying humanity best hope
Tech priest
Or worst nightmare. But I guess that's how the game shines for us to have this debate.
+King Crimson None of them are innocent. If they're not guilty by their actions, they're guilty due to their inaction.
Even after learning about these horrendous activities carried out by institute why do people think of them as the good guys, or the future of mankind. Yes, they have made huge advances and yes, they have a great potential for the future but at what cost? Is it worth sacrificing your own morality and humanity? Kind of ironic that they regard themselves as 'Mankind redefined'.
Because the world of fallout is a hellish world, and if you think something that is purely good and kind-hearted can survive out there you are wrong. Look at the state you find the minutemen in at the start of the game. Instead of focusing on "good" and "evil" you should focus on which faction is most likely to keep everyone alive long term. A faction like The Brotherhood of Steel with nukes and vertibirds and power armor going to war with everything that looks at them wrong adds far, far more to the likelihood of humanity wiping itself out. The institute avoids conflict and uses subterfuge to prevent it outright before it happens. While twisted and often making terrible mistakes in the past, the institute is still undeniably the best possible "new world government" to lead the earth back into an age of just not being dead.
Not to mention, if the sole survivor is generally an alright dude gains control over the institute, most of their evil shenanigans would stop, especially with Kellogg being dead too. Nothing you could do to the BoS would make them any less of a war machine.. The future for that ending is not bright at all. And as stated, the minutemen would be dead with the sole survivor, and can be allied with any other faction, even the institute. The railroad really doesn't accomplish anything but that "feel good" ending, when at the end of the day the world is still a terrible place with no better future, unless you are one of a few dozen synths who felt enslaved. Many within the institute however were happy there, and had their homes and lives destroyed...
Just saying, every story has two sides.
Ritesh Bansode
All these crimes against humanity covered up and kept under wraps in the institute, no one but the Director and the SRB chief likely know the true extent of the human experiments, the FEV lab was sealed off and likely was never open to the public.
Ritesh Bansode if you help them in fallout e it's considered bad so :/
***** Exactly!! You kill several of the evil people in it then take it over and can change it tons for the better! All in memory of your son! It's beautiful! Instead of blowing him up..
is it just me or did vergil give off a Bruce banner vibe?
probably unintentional, I'm pretty sure super mutants have been big and green since fallout 1
Vergil
Vergil
Vergil
ligreV
I wish that, after defeating the Institute. You would’ve had the ability to recruit Virgil to one of your settlements for unique health items.
Kind of like the mutations in Fallout 76, which gives you unique abilities for a limited period of time.
Or items like the Cabot Serum or Vault 81 cure.
i wanted to recruit him, when i made it to the head of institute
didn't work, no dialog
Well, this whole story proves two things: Institute as organisation is evil and has to be obliterated, and there are still people in the Institute who have good moral compass, like Virgil. Ringing evacuation during Institute destruction is certainly the way to go.
StarlightFromAbyss, They are still good when compared to the other factions in my opinion.
+Paladin Boyd Yeah, kidnapping people to turn them into supermutants is totally nicer than trying to save synths from violence, protect the settlements of the Commonwealth and protecting the citizens and technology of the US.
StarlightFromAbyss At the end of the Institute ending, you never specify if you want to continue the kidnappings (which were very rare) and you never specify if you bring harm to the commonwealth. You can basically use your own ideas on how it ends.
Morgalucci, Well it was to further scientific knowledge when compared to kill anything funny looking (The brotherhood and enclave) they are the good ones.
+Paladin Boyd "Well, the Holocaust's experimentation on twins was for scientific research..."
Then we have the Brotherhood whom simply want to eradicate all hostile life forms and any possible remnants that could lead to furher chaos (supermutants, Institute synths, etc).
The Institute is so evil. They may be "the best hope for humanities future" but the end result doesn't justify the death and pain they have caused over such a long period of time.
The Institute believes they're "the best hope" but that doesn't mean they actually are. It's what they tell themselves when they do all the various things they do.
Sinapus True, but all the factions do that.
Naruto Uzumaki i wish there was more stuff like that and also more story
But realistically if you were to do that you'd probably have the entire institute rise up against you, you can't just shut down their main research project. And from a story perspective, you might as well join the railroad since the whole point of joining a faction is which philosophy you agree with.
Super mutants in Boston/Commonwealth? I blame the institute, Shaun and Virgil
The Broken mask incident? I blame the institute and Shaun
Synth ( third generation ) Paranoia? I blame the institute and Shaun
The Railroad is half destroyed? I blame the institute and Shaun
University Point massacre? I blame the institute, Shaun and Kellogg.
In my playthrough, I was going to help Virgil but I forgot to get before I destroyed the Institute and when I came to Virgil, he was really mad and told me about the cure being his only chance and how I killed all of his friends and then he attacked me 😔
Happens bro 😢
The level of research that you do, I find it inspiring, and gives me motivation to keep going with my own Fallout 4 research project.
I am happily surprised to find there is no end to your FO4 content Oxhorn.
At times, I wish we could make use of the FEV in our settlement build. Build an FEV tank and mutate settlers, turning them into either Super Mutants or Ghouls. Perhaps even use it on the Sole Survivor and become a Super Mutant Master of the Commonwealth.
You could've even used it to create new species of mutants, using parts and pieces of various creatures you kill in the Commonwealth. Create your very own Centaur.
BBBHuey get started on that code
Like in the Shadow of Mordor right?
AND NAME IT CUDDLES!
FEVirus wouldn't turn people into ghouls.
@@mentallyderangeddoggirl incorrect but also kinda correct? Harold from fallout 1, 2 and 3 is ghoul like creature transformed by FEV, after leading an expedition to the maraposia military base. If he was or was not a complete ghoul, a psuedo super mutant or something completely unique (seeing as he can survive having his internal organs spread out across several miles) is up in the air, but if it matters in the mind of the writers of fallout 1 and 2 Harold is a ghoul, making him a ghoul created through FEV exposure.
The first time I watched my brother play through this dungeon I actually got sick to my stomach. It also hardened my resolve to never side with the Institute. I wonder what the Sole Survivor must have thought, seeing the horrors that their son allowed to happen.
Well the horrors that he was raised to believe were normal and right since the experiments took place well before Shaun was kidnapped, but when he became Father he still allowed it to continue.
Whats funny is that Father is a huge example of nature vs nurture. He was Nurtured around the beliefs of the Institute which is why he is so resolute in their vision even to the end.
I love how X-06 just says "Is someone there?" while being riddled with bullets. I just love it. XD
OMG I hate watching that scene with Virgil when you lie. Like that is seriously almost making me cry. And the fact is you're lying on top of it!
Great stuff Oxhorn! The FEV lab was the main reason I turned on the institute and father
*Son
Mike haha
16:57 “Let’s paint the picture” *picks up paint
Noice
Thank you for going over this in more detail. I was both fascinated and horrified when I first stepped into the FEV lab last week. Especially when I saw the poor dead cats. Poor kitties. Anyway, this helps put the pieces together for me, I was a little confused.
Also, I was surprised that this linked to Swan. I remembered fighting him when I first passed through that area. I think it was the first time I'd fought anything that tall.
love your videos. i hope Bethesda continues Virgil's story (assuming he's still alive after meeting the sole survivor) and that he creates a working cure for FEV in an upcoming fallout, maybe main quest for the next title. Would be really cool.
Is the man named "virgil" motivated?
I love these videos. I can't focus enough to read all the info on the terminals, but I really want to know more about the world of fallout 4. Listening, I can do. Thank you so much Oxhorn!
16:57 "so now that we've organized all the moving parts, let's paint a picture." As he grabs paint
I sorta carried a dead cat and dropped it in front of father.
Wtf did you leave that STEALTH BOY?!?!?!
Finally someone else notices! I mean it COULD be because he's using a non stealth character but he could've at least sold it!
@@jacklong6106 Stealth boys are for non stealth characters.
@@jacklong6106 I never use stealth boys. Never understand why anyone does. If you are a sneak build you don't need it, if you are a strength build you don't need it.
I KNOW!!!
Stealth boys are so useless, when u use it your enemies still shoot at you as if you weren’t even using it
never thought all your long ass videos would be so interesting that I finish them all. good shit ox
Thank you sooo much for making sense of it all! I'm going to reference this video a TON for myself when I try to write about the Institute. Thanks my dude.
Or you could unlock the master locked terminal in the bioscience lab
So you don't have to shoot through an assaultron
That's what I do everytime. I actually only know about that other area because I went in from behind to explore it.
if assaultrons give you a hard time, shoot their legs, believe it or not that is their weak point
^
Basically with Assaultrons, shoot anywhere BUT the head. The head is the most defended part. Assaultrons never gave me any problem though. My sniper could pretty much dismember them in one shot to the chest with his suppressed 50. cal AMR. Between full Ninja and Mr. Sandman giving me x4 sneak damage with a weapon that does a base 274 damage without upgrades, hell, Alpha Deathclaws and BOS Paladins would be lucky to not find themselves suddenly missing their heads after just one shot.
Oxhorn you... killed Virgil... YOU!MONSTER!!!!
Mute Phantom it was the humane thing to do.
But hes not human... hes a super mutant.
Funny thing is: If he transformes back into a Human, will he lose his Imunity to radiation too?
So even if he is a Human again now, he will die on Radion Poisoning, if he survive all the nasty critters in the glowing sea, before he even arrive at its borders. xD
At my first Play threw, I had found his cave before the Mission kicked in. He wasn't there, only his Defence Mechanisms. I destroyed them all and looted the Place and there weren't many Rad X or Rad Away there and no Rad Protection Suit ether.
So, how will he come out of the Glowing Sea, or will he ever stay in that hole and dies there slowly on hunger, Thirst or radiation Poisoning?
Dokdiamant If u ask him he says that their are some side effects.
Like increase muscle mass, rapid hair growth and possibly an
Immunity to radiation?
Josh Hmm... possible...
He will have to find it out the hard way. ^^
it's amazing how if i have any doubts about fallout lore,there's always a video of yours explaining everything...thank you,you make amazing content!!!
Daaamn swan was actually from the Institute, also i wish there was a way to confront father about the FEV lab ask him about it etc
Now I regret beating the game on the Institutes side
You won't now, the FEV program ended, you could make a good change.
Nope, the hundreds of mutants are still there, and far harbor has shown that a lot have left the commonwealth, good luck with that
Patrick On Drugs your the leader now you can change everything
I side with the brotherhoods. It has problems like all other groups in fallout 4. But what happens with the Institute is going to far. Most of what you find there are them going to far and they see the world as a huge testing ground
16:57 "lets paint a picture" *grabs paint* I'm dying
Ox, I'm actually starting with a fresh play thru thanks to your videos. Going for the Institute/Raider ending. Thanks for all the info on all your videos! You have yet to disappoint!
Can you imagine how surprised I was when I found swan. I literally walked all over that place in the common when I walked to my missions and one day I stand near the lake and hear raiders talking. I don't see them so I use vats to locate them better and it points me right to this behemoth right in the middle of the pond who I mistook for a swan boat. God, I feel so blind😔😑😑😓
Never liked the FEV plot, smells way too much of plot convenience so that Bethesda could have super mutants in the game.
the Institute was suppose to be ruthless and amoral but not illogical, whereas wasting limited resources on a go noway project for decades and then wasting the power it takes to teleport them to the surface where they threaten institute operations is the very definition of illogical.
Also the fact that the institute just happen to had the FEV.
Chenyuan Xie Super mutants are fucking everywhere Whos to say That the wild ones are just random supermutents. I would instead say the more notable mutants like strong are the actual Test subjects. The rest are just random grouped up mutants from around the wastelands.
Chenyuan Xie Super Mutants can make more though they'd need access to FEV, presuming the population would wander the US though. Still though there does seem to be to many.
sam raynes their must be More places churning out mutants. I mean we only know what The bottom half of the westcoast along with 2 states in the east(only really its just 2 citys and a small area around it. I would say we only traveled about 6% of all the US. There is still a lot of land And their are bound to be a lot more military bases, vaults, and laboratory's. And should these places go on for long enough the areas would eventually see mutants leaving for greener pastures....to cover in the blood of waster victim's
Gerald actully they make super mutants and put them on the surface and they cause problems for the people above so they carnt organise into a big group like they nearly did as if they did the entire commonwealth would be united and this means the synths getting things wo t be a efficient means as everyone will be better equipped and eventually they could launch a attack on the institute if or when they actully find it
Chenyuan Xie Just because a Mutant has a hound doesnt mean they are all from the same place. Just because I have husky doesnt mean i got it from the same place as my neighbor. Mutants Are shown to have a form of kinship with other mutants to the point that they treat eachother as brothers (with varying degrees of respect) And its shown that the mutant bands to keep Contact with eachother Amd its possible that they Give eachother hounds. Anyway it can also be Chalked up to gameplay-story segregation as why would the institute keep sending synths to a location after you wipped it out several times or why do forged keep returning after you killed them all several times. And why do they return To the same place everytime.
Nice video. It really gets you thinking about the lore of the Fallout Universe. I've always been fascinated with the Idea of Genetic Manipulation and the FEV in Fallout. Also curious on how the Super Mutant population grows if at all.
The institute appears to be the only faction that was trying to investigate the Super Mutant question with a microscope instead of bullets.
They would need humans to conduct these experiments and perhaps the Synths weren't just a way for them to cover their tracks in the Commonwealth but also to be the future candidates to experiment on.
"Let's paint a picture of what went on here." (Takes paint) 16:55
As much as I try accepting the institute, this is the one thing they didn't do right, the one thing they have in common with the Enclave, and again it's the "leaders" responsible. the FEV really does no good. It seems to make humans evil.
Not really true. If they can learn how to master the FEV, then they can greatly enhance strength and intelligence, while also making themselves radiation proof to survive the wasteland.
If ANYONE in the Fallout universe can master it, then they will win. Simple as that.
Crimson Ichor They aren't exactly fond of the surface though, so much that I believe the created synths just so they don't have to go outside, regardless of why they wanted to master it.
+Kevin Darxide
They don't hate the surface, they just hate the raiders and the worse parts of the Commonwealth. If they needed to go to the surface, they would. Hell, Father himself went right into the open by himself, where he could have been shot or enslaved by raiders.
If it actually worked, they would use the FEV on themselves instantly.
The one thing they didnt do right? What about destroying all and any bonds of trust and love between humans? Ever witnessed the standoff between the two brothers in Diamond City? And btw what about killing someone and replacing him with a machine which you can control? I knew what I had to do.
Julkorn2 Two humans often do not change the entire world for the better, so scaling the institute with two humans is plain stupid. Of course you'll feel bad about those innocent people, and the FEV experiments cost hundreds of humans, but the institute lacked only one thing. Proper management. If directed by the right person they could potentially save thousands of lives. If these people managed to create a modified FEV that reverses the effects, then these people can potentially create a GECK. Now imagine GECK's used in the commonwealth, and a cure for super mutants. Some trust and a few dead humans would be nothing in comparison.
Legitimate question: Does anyone think that Strong is the one they tagged, given that Father planned many things?
He might be tagged, but I doubt it was for the purpose of meeting you. Considering you can avoid meeting him entirely he's probably just another mutant that just happened to be smart enough to understand humans are stronger than mutants.
Thanks for breaking down these background stories. I know the essence of most of them but, sometimes its hard to become immersed when you barely manage to survive during the quest. Or when you randomly become invisible. Anyway, thanks.
This place was one of the creepiest just because of the fact when you go into the fev lab it is completely silent. That gave me chills like no tomorrow
I remember all those bits and pieces of story from the FEV lab but I never put them together into a coherent narrative like you did, congrats. It kind of makes me hate the Institute even more.
The 405 dislike is from settlement that's need your help Here I'll mark it on your map Now Move it
Could the fact that Virgil had infected himself and was able to cure himself, proof that the Synthesis Project was possibly a success?
Thanks for the video, just found the FEV lab by accident (my first playthrough) and had no idea what the hell to do.
Hey Oxhorn have you ever considered doing a settlement build on Outpost Zimoja in the far north? Keep up the great fallout content.
Just checked and saw an efficiency build video based on it. But a "Lived in" version would be cool.
I am at the turning point of the main quest in my current play-through. This has prepared me to assassinate Shaun and destroy that hell-hole.
Exploring the FEV lab was the main reason I didn't sound the evacuation alarm before nuking the Institute.
Root and stem, Salt the earth.
I love how you were drunk at the beginning
Mayor McDonough is strong
Really like your interpretations. You're not one of these guys who are just throughout messing up the hole story by mixing the original content with their own wishful thinking.^^
Love your videos cant emajin the time it takes to gather all the information and put it in the right place keep it up man :)
Ox I love how you dig into a subject and discover the rest of the story! As a matter of fact, I tell anyone and everyone that starts playing FO4 to go to your channel and check you out! FO4 seems like it's just another game but you dig into it and show that it's not just a flat 2-dimensional game! Fantastic job Ox! I recently watched your commentaries on Piper and Cait and learned more about both of them! And I've been playing this game for the past couple of years! Again fantastic job Ox!
just one thing Oxhorn its the glowing SEA singular not seas plural
Dude, don't watch Oxhorn's videos if you don't want to hear words being butchered or misused. It happens in every single video. It isn't going to change.
delugesofgrandeur I know I just like to be that one asshole that does that
Don't feel sorry for killing supermutants in a Bethesda fallout. Unlike the other fallouts the ones in 3 & 4 are just mad dogs that need to put down.
The Eternal Chronicler Except for Fawkes, and Virgil, and Uncle Leo, and Erickson.
Not to mention that in general the Commonwealth Super Mutants are more intelligent. They are more often capable of speech and have a better comprehension of ideas like weapons and armour considering that most have modified weapons and makeshift armour as opposed to CW Super Mutants who generally just use the default hunting rifles and melee weapons.
The Commonwealth Super Mutants seem closer to the West Coast Super Mutants which makes sense as CIT would likely be given military grade FEV more akin to that found at Mariposa than whatever Vault-Tec got in bulk.
Fawkes, Virgil, uncle leo, and Erickson are exceptions not the rule.
Intelligent? No super mutants in the Cw and the Commonwealth are just cannibalistic berzekers, who wish nothing but supermutant supremacy and make humans nothing more as pigs to the slaughter.
The only difference between the CW and Commonwealth supermutant is that one knows a few more tricks and even that's arguable since one is stupid enough to waste a mini nuke trying to kill you.
No all these deserve is a bullet to the head and even that's to generous a death.
The institute is rosponsible for the super mutants in Boston/Commonwealth. All super mutants are hostile and shoot everything that moves.
Marcus and Lily the only good super mutants. Also Fawkes and Erickson are good super mutants. F¤ck Strong.
The Eternal Chronicler super mutants in the commonwealth are more intelligent the the ones on DC but no where near first gen mutants in DC the mutants are much more gang like but in the commonwealth they have more structure but still savage beserkers
The FEV lab creeped me out so much so I didn’t even know there was the serum there and left and now I have to go back there again. NOOO!
The lore is insanely in depth
WOULD THEY KILL THE TOY? WOULD THEY EAT THE TOY?
Wait soo most of the super mutants are civilians that the institute have taken
Yesssssss que scary music
Institute: IM THE WORST EXPIREMENTS!
VAULT TEC: HOLD MY VAULT
Swan's story is an allusion to the book Flowers for Algernon. Even though it has these added elements with the institute, it very closely relates to it.
Whoa. Nearly two playthroughs and for some reason I hadn't made the connection. "The institute is abducting people and replacing them with synths!" Was only part truth. They *were* abducting people, but the Railroad was replacing those people with the synths. The Institute was abducting people and either losing them or dumping them into the wasteland as Mutants.
I wish I knew why I hand't quite put all of that together. Awesome job.
I could see some justification when the program was to create Gen 3 synths but, to continue after that for no real reason is horrifying. I'm glad Father no longer leads the Institute one way or another come the end of the game.
Every time. Every damn time. Every Fallout video title of yours I look at I go "How the hell did he stretch that topic to a video that long?" Then I watch the whole damn thing. You've got skills.
i really love this series i play it while playing fallout
great video as always keep up the awesome work:)
this guy gives morgan freeman a run for his money.
Hah I just watched this just after I was in the fev lab
Started to play fallout 4 for the first time, that assaultron was a legendary when i went down there 😅
I always learn something new with these videos. I didnt know you could talk with Dr. Virgil about Swan. I wish Strong had a unique comment when Swan emerges but the game just goes with normal Behemoth dialog for companions. Id love it if he said "HA HA HA, ITS SWAN! HOW ARE YOU MY BROTHER!"
Oml i've had a breakthrough, the institute are scared, the institute is basically just a giant, modernised vault. With no experiments
Does it annoy anyone else when people say "acrosst"? Thats not a word, its just across.
I realize that, just that one word is one of my pet peeves
Yeah, I've noticed a few of these affectational learned words popping up. I'd guess it's admirational emulation and mannerismic, I hope it'll pass like trend words of the past. (That would be 'rad') Another one that grinds my gears is "axe" instead of "ask". Each to their own... best to be tolerant
Just knowing that “father“. The players son, has known about FEV and insisted it continue is the reason why I could never side with the institute. They kidnapped Shaun and raised a psychopath.
Where did FEV originally come from? I known the vault with Fawkes was an FEV experiment, so vault tek had it, the institute got it... I don't remember if the enclave had any. Been too long since I played fallout 3.