@@davidmendez3899 The funny thing is we make the argument for Canto Blight, but noooooo, we can't use that, since that is perfect cinematography or whatever and having 30 minutes of pointless plot is gooooood. But it's perfect for Snoke, since the movies wasted his potential so we should just stop caring already! Pretty much a case definition of "good if I say so, bad if you say so". *facepalm*
Kylo Ren was being pretty unreasonable when he turned to the Dark Side. Who cares if Luke tried to murder him in his sleep? It's not like it went anywhere!
TLJ bombers are great; they are capable of decimating a dreadnaught with a single payload. They only sacrifice speed, long distance payload delivery, durability, maneuverability, and the capacity to survive the destruction of their target. Just every aspect of a bomber that allows it to survive to deliver the bombs and then get out alive...
They are amazing! They don't even need landing gear; they just sit on their bomb bays, giving ground maintenance crews cancer, and get toppled after a single burst of wind and explode. Also, if they crash land, they land on the bomb bay, and because the bombs are built to explode under literally any physical trauma, it explodes. Also, a Battlefield 1 Kolibri has taken down an entire squadron of these bombers with only one shot. Also, a Battlefield 1 Gas Mask has taken down an entire fleet of these bombers simply by putting the Gas Mask on. Also, an entire armada of these bombers was taken down by simply existing and spontaneously exploding. No faulty electronics, no fire, no explosions, no bullets no trauma. They just died by existing. BEST BOMBERS EVAH!
@@isaiahlee2902 Awesome. 😊 Kinda reminds me of Hellsing Abridged: "Father Maxwell! America has fallen into chaos and Anarchy!" "So Millenium infiltrated them too...." "No sir." "Huh"
Love the sarcasm, however to take this am additional notch, using those Bombers would require a heavy duty escort fighter, as opposed to the X-wing (high speed attack fighter) and A-wing (high speed interceptors, of which they only have one?). Something like the old E-wing or a modernized ARc-170. But that would require understanding the things they stuff in the series.
Also note: Thor Skywalker, a UA-camr who didn't like The Last Jedi did predict that Rey's parents would be nobodies. So he isn't even the only one who had that prediction as he claimed. He just makes no salient arguments. I don't understand how people think it's a good critique of the critics or defense of the film.
TheAdarkerglow I remember that too. Good point. Out of the SWs UA-camrs he's by far my favorite. Very laid back and mellow who acknowledges TLJ's shortcomings and has a really cool voice. His fan-fiction writings of TLJ and other stuff are great.
Jayden C it’s more of the build up that was never executed on. People would be fine with Rey’s parents being nobodies if she wasn’t as powerful as she was. I mean, she could do tons of things Luke couldn’t do, even when he had training. If she had actually trained to receive her powers, then people would also understand why she’s so powerful. It appears that people don’t often take kindly to overpowered individuals who don’t have explanations for their “unearned” powers.
If you actually watched the ot, you will know that Luke was moments away from killing his father just like he was moments away from killing Kylo before he stopped and realized what he did. It’s possible for people to make the same mistake twice
@@xxraddude3621 Bro. It is a heck of a lot different to have Luke lose his cool during the fight after vader GOADED him about his sister than to sense the dark side in Kylo and fuckin go march down to his hut and stand over him with his blade ignited ready to kill his ass.
Yeah it's weird it's like JJ watched all the videos in defense of the last jedi and then made Rise of Skywalker tobmake them all shit like Rey not being a nobody and holdo being a traitor and coward who tried to run away
4:23:00 yoda jumping around is silly, yoda telekinetically using his light sabers is not??? They haven't seen that in action before, it's fucking awkward as fuck... I don't even know what's silly in it... Plus this is why i said the people who don't like yoda jumping around or using lightsaber and want him to use the foece to fight know nothing about yoda... Yoda literally said in the OT, the force is never used for attack, only for defence... What destroys the character of yoda more than him using the force to attack??? These people don't know about star wars... I hate this idea of going into a review blind... You're just trying to shock yourselves rather than add information... These people are just stammering,trying to remember things from the prequels and even the OT... Wow... I just assumed westerners had collective brain tumor when the prequels were released and they were told to hate by plinkett using an abysmal review... He was literally making points from thin air... He only got 3 criticisms right in the phantom menace and they were nitpicks... Go watch icy the fire mage destroy his videos mauler style...
"I could analyze this scene for hours, that's why my video is only 47 minutes with no focus on evidence of how deeply layered this scene is against people's criticisms."
All he means is that it's incredibly vague. We have no idea what characters are going to do or where they stand on anything because literally nothing was established properly.
How come every "Guardian of TLJ" sounds like a smug, pseudo intellectual, that his argument is: _"TLJ is Great! You don't understand the movie because you're not smart enough"._ If there was an actual single good argument to why TLJ is good, it wouldn't get that much of flak from the fans. But there isn't... because TLJ was 100% shit.
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. It's more like 20% shit, 50% wasted potential and 30% decent movie. It has its moments, the cinematography is pretty good, there are some pretty neat ideas here and there... but it's the same thing as with food. Let's say you go into a restaurant and order a pizza. After a while the waiter returns, and brings out one of the tastiest looking pizzas you have ever seen. Then you cut it up, and realize that while the toppings look fantastic, the dough underneath is uncooked, and between the two there is a thin layer of shit. Then you turn to the waiter, and he tells you "well, it's only 20% shit, the rest are not, so please give me a tip". The funniest part? Apparently there are people out there who are so in love with the toppings that they eat the pizza and tip the waiter anyway, and then just blame everyone else for being snobs with "sophisticated palates" for not being able to enjoy raw dough and shit as a spice.
@@Horvath_Gabor You pretty much nailed that description, However I find it very hard to enjoy the cinematography and visuals if you hate the characters and bored out of your mind, I get why people enjoy it though and it's fine for them, but when someone says the movie is "Good" or "Amazing and you don't get it" they give WAY too much credit for an overall rushed, poorly written film, that had LOTS of potential thrown to the trash.
"not murdering his nephew was Luke taking a stand against the Jedi ways." literally from ROTS when Anakin was turning to the dark side: "he was an unarmed prisoner. I shouldn't have done that, it's not the Jedi way."
@@xxraddude3621 not exactly accurate - Yoda never tries to convince Luke to kill Vader specifically - he just tells him to confront him... he wants Luke to help topple the Empire. You could infer Obi-Wan telling him to in the sense that Luke says "I can't kill my own father" and Obi-Wan says "then the emperor has already won" - so this isn't really countless... it's 1, maybe - but I also think you are missing the point. The Jedi aren't against killing "under any circumstances" - they are specifically against 1. killing out of passion/anger/fear or for your own selfish gain, and 2. killing unarmed opponents who have surrendered, are incapacitated, or are not a current threat. The Obi-Wan implication could simply be chalked up to the fact that he couldn't envision a scenario where Vader and the Emperor surrendered or were beaten without being killed. The Jedi are not against violence/killing in scenarios of defending others, self defense, or in the midst of ongoing combat. Luke considering killing his nephew out of fear, preemptively because of a vision (always in motion is the future), against a sleeping, unarmed, and not currently hostile "opponent" is directly against the Jedi ways. This seems to me fairly consistent with what we see from Jedi in episodes 1 through 6...
@@xxraddude3621 I think you could make a better argument from episode 3 when Yoda and Obi-Wan seem to have the pretty clear goal of killing the Emperor and Anakin... although I do think part of that movie is meant to show how the Jedi are not perfectly following their own code.
I thought the theme of Canto Bight was don't park illegally. Imagine if they just docked at proper space port or whatever. Rian Johnson is clearly an advocate of obeying parking laws.
If they hadn't acted like total idiots, the plan might've worked. Sure it was still risky, but Holdo's plan was just as if not more risky despite what the film tells you.
Not even thirty minutes in... "If it was a theory you came up with (as far as Snoke), it was a bad theory" Well, joke's on you, pal, someone out there WROTE a theory about Snoke being nobody.
Worse yet is it appears Rian Johnson, a guy that admits he hates and isn't good at writing, JUST SO HAPPENED to borrow almost verbatim someone's Star Wars fanfiction for the plot of The Last Jedi right around the time where the script writing could have been taking place chronologically. Whoops!
"It has to be about something bigger" He says, about a movie that devoted 30 minutes to a sub plot about the evils of capitalism (from the biggest company on Earth) and the greys of war profiteering morality (in a space wizard movie for kids), that somehow still managed to spend 2 HOURS AVOIDING ANY AND ALL MEANINGFUL WORLD BUILDING.
not to mention, that this sub plot turned out to be completely pointless, course it became a dead end and the other party hat a "better" plan to begin with, lol
4:23:00 yoda jumping around is silly, yoda telekinetically using his light sabers is not??? They haven't seen that in action before, it's fucking awkward as fuck... I don't even know what's silly in it... Plus this is why i said the people who don't like yoda jumping around or using lightsaber and want him to use the foece to fight know nothing about yoda... Yoda literally said in the OT, the force is never used for attack, only for defence... What destroys the character of yoda more than him using the force to attack??? These people don't know about star wars... I hate this idea of going into a review blind... You're just trying to shock yourselves rather than add information... These people are just stammering,trying to remember things from the prequels and even the OT... Wow... I just assumed westerners had collective brain tumor when the prequels were released and they were told to hate by plinkett using an abysmal review... He was literally making points from thin air... He only got 3 criticisms right in the phantom menace and they were nitpicks... Go watch icy the fire mage destroy his videos mauler style...
this is literally his thoughts by the way he LOVED rise of skywalker yet never mentioned the movie confirmed the same f ing fan theories he spent nearly half a hour insultin and shitteing on.
@@wilmagregg3131 The Rise of Skywalker is hollow and all but it isn't the worst thing ever made. He preferred the Last Jedi's outcome with Rey and stated that explicitly.
@@wilmagregg3131 you are lying, he did mention it and he said he didn't like it, but also said he enjoyed the movie despite thinking it lacked in many areas
I rewatched the canto bight scene, and Rose and Finn are terrible people. They ride those poor animals into heavy objects, through walls, and more. They abused those animals, broke their legs, left internal injuries. It was horrible to watch. Any animal lover should be aghast.
Nah disney were the terrible people, canto bight was filmed in dubrovnik and for a month the whole old town was blocked off and noone was allowed in (in comparison game of thrones only blocks off streets) that scene is not only crap in the movie but disney treated the croatians who lived there like shit.
The theme of the Last Jedi is to do nothing. Seriously! If Luke didn’t check on Ben Solo, then Ben wouldn’t be Kylo Ren Snoke worked really hard to make the First Order, but he’s the bad guy for it. He’s also pointless Holdo did nothing, then died, and she is a hero Poe tried to take action and that was a mistake Finn tried to take action by crashing into the laser and Rose had to save him Rose and Finn went on a mission that they shouldn’t have gone on. They should’ve waited with Holdo Leia advocates Poe to stop acting, and he is demoted for doing stuff Rey does nothing really but she is extremely powerful Chewbacca does nothing at all except fly the Millennium Falcon for Rey Yoda doesn’t act until Luke tries to burn the jedi temple, in which he effortless destroys it so Luke can continue to do nothing. Luke tries to fight, but does technically nothing by just sitting on a rock. Since this is hypothetically an action to take, he dies from the effort These are themes that will last beyond our own lifetime. This movie is a masterpiece!
I laughed my ass off at “who cares if he started a mutiny, it didn’t go anywhere.” Dude, if a super important plot driven moment leads to absolutely nothing, that isn’t a good thing.
I don't think it's necessarily bad. Isn't that badically what red herrings are? Those have an out of universe purpose i suppose, but within a movie having a seemingly important plot be unimportant can be done well is my point. TLJ eid not do it well obviously.
What really pisses me off is that, by "killing" the expanded universe, they denied the new trilogy from having SO MUCH MORE material to bring and support this message of "ending the jedi monopoly over the force". When in first watched the trailer and heard Luke to say "The Jedi need to end" I first thought that he would later mention the existence of other organizations aside from the Jedi and the Sith that use the force: the Aing'tii monks, the Baran Do, the matukai and Alpheridies, the Kro Var, the Black Guard and even the witches from Dathomir. But NOOOO, let's just END the old canon and start a new one, smaller, dumber and just...dead, canon. Fuck you, Disney!
I want them to subvert our expectations in XI by having the Millenium Falcon blow up with everyone inside, and a completely new cast of characters has to finish the trilogy.
No wait, get Bill Pullman to kill Kylo Ren and Mel Brooks to do a voice part, we can tie it into Spaceballs and finally make Spaceballs 2: The Searchfor more Money! Too bad John Candy's dead, I guess they could do a CGI John Candy and piss us off some more.
The silly part with that is that now, according to the Solo movie, the Falcon is ALSO an actual sentient being. And it used to have sex with Lando on the regular...so that's cool.....
I saw a great gif that would've made greater sense & impact that started with her flying in space and cut to the zoom when holdo smashed into the star destroyer. Why did a rando have a better idea than rian johnson?
Here is how you know you can't take this guy seriously. I've listened to half of his SW8 video and by the hope he places on it, he should logically hate SW9, seeing as Abrams and Johnson completely disagreed on every subject in this story. Nope. Lee likes SW9, too. He concedes that he needed to watch it three times to love it, but he calls it just as amazing as SW8. ... That's just not possible. You can't fight this hard supporting Rey being "the child of nobodies" and then turn around and enjoy her being Palpatine's granddaughter. You can't hope this hard that Ray and Finn will inspire a new generation of force users and rebels, and then when that doesn't happen, not be disappointed. You can't wish for Star Wars to be new and different and then have this trilogy end fighting Palpatine and not be dismayed. Mahler needs to react to his SW9 review.
"Why Cannibalism is Underrated" and "Top 10 Reasons Why Daisy Ridley Should Date Me"? God do I hope that this Lee guy is on some sort of list and is being watched at all times.
I also can't relate to someone who grew up fending for herself on a desert planet, yet is also nice to everyone and is motivated solely by doing the right thing. Much like with Finn, Rey's backstory is at a HUGE disconnect with the characterization, and I'm just not able to latch onto her as a real person.
@@SolarDragon007 _Thank you_ for bringing up Finn's characterization as well. Why the hell isn't there a tiny bit more humanity shown in the First Order? We have kids who were taken by effectively what amounts to Space Wizard Cult, and made to participate in massacres or be shot for insubordination. Finn had friends in the First Order. One of them died in his arms. But as soon as he becomes a turncoat, he's blasting away happily at his former squadmates. *"DID YOU SEE THAT!?* *_DID YOU SEE THAT!?"_* We're shown that he's not an exception to troopers with no free will. Others think for themselves. ("Traitor!" Sounded like real anger from that faceless mook.) So that at least gives him some ground in not being a borderline lobotomized human droid, but I find it difficult to believe that he'd be the "Quirky comic relief goofball boi" So soon after escaping from the only thing he's ever known after witnessing one of his friends and dozens of innocent people die, along with his new friend presumed KIA in his eyes for most of the movie. Nope, he gets starry-eyed for a random girl he meets (and tries to defend her from some thugs, despite probably being raised to see rats in the dust like her as below him) and they go off on an adventure together. He has _no_ qualms with working with Han Solo. Instead of saying "Wasn't he a war hero?" He should have been the one pointing out that he's a scummy smuggler, considering he would have been raised to see him, the Alliance, and The Jedi as evil. Sure, he'd get over it. But it'd take time. Spouting hateful rhetoric, then correcting himself. "We're going to be _working with-!?"_ *Dirty look from Rey* "...Sorry. Out of options, I know. Fine." I _wanted_ to see a Stormtrooper character, dammit! You know, since that is what he was _advertised as?_ I didn't get one with Iden Versio either and I'm still pissed about that.
@@eras1066 Damn, everything in your comment is exactly how I feel about Finn. And I too am still pissed about Iden Versio. If you don't know about it already, go pick up the Inferno Squad book. It's Iden as a loyal Imperial from start to finish, and it's a fantastic book.
4:23:00 yoda jumping around is silly, yoda telekinetically using his light sabers is not??? They haven't seen that in action before, it's fucking awkward as fuck... I don't even know what's silly in it... Plus this is why i said the people who don't like yoda jumping around or using lightsaber and want him to use the foece to fight know nothing about yoda... Yoda literally said in the OT, the force is never used for attack, only for defence... What destroys the character of yoda more than him using the force to attack??? These people don't know about star wars... I hate this idea of going into a review blind... You're just trying to shock yourselves rather than add information... These people are just stammering,trying to remember things from the prequels and even the OT... Wow... I just assumed westerners had collective brain tumor when the prequels were released and they were told to hate by plinkett using an abysmal review... He was literally making points from thin air... He only got 3 criticisms right in the phantom menace and they were nitpicks... Go watch icy the fire mage destroy his videos mauler style...
Anyone who thinks that MauLer’s channel is nothing but negativity needs to understand that the point to EFAP is to critical analyze and point out flaws in narrative construction and arguments propping up the flaws. It’s never about saying other people are simply wrong, but it is to point out inconsistencies and issues for further discussion.
There are also quite a few moments when they agree with the video they're criticizing. They don't just shit on everything. They do agree with the points made if they're reasonable.
Let's not go saying something like that. Yeah, MauLer does a lot of negative videos, but it is not the entirety of his content. It just so happens that he feels strongly about the shortcomings of a lot of recent films. It may make up a large portion of his content, but no one is denying that, only the claim that he is entirely negative all the time
In response to Mauler at 3:53:05, The Phantom Menace did have densely packed scenes. Just by watching Qui-Gon, Padme and Jar Jar walking into Mos Eisley, or looking at the audience in the pod racing arena, or examining the underwater city of the Gungans, you'll see more creative designs and locations than all three parts of the Disney Trilogy combined. Fun fact, The Phantom Menace ALONE used more practical effects than the entire Original Trilogy put together so those who complain about too much CGI are talking out of their arses, especially since they often mistake the practical effects for CGI.
@blackrave404 Uh-uh. Wrong Skywalker. The one you were emulating is Jake Skywalker, Luke's illegitimate clone created by a dysfunctional device and faulty materials (most of which are Rian Johnson's brain semen).
I know part of why Maj0r Lee might dislike MauLer, based on the beginning tweet. Thanks to “A Critique of Star Wars: The Last Jedi” MauLer has reached nearly 125K subscribers and has over 10 million views on his channel. Maj0r Lee has had his channel for nearly 10 years now, and he only has 20K subscribers and 1.6 million views. With his critique, MauLer gained 5 times the subscribers and 6 times the views compared to Maj0r Lee. And it was a Critique of a movie Lee likes. Tbh, I would be bitter too if someone got that much more popular by showing that something I liked was crap.
Did show that?? Put your money where your mouth is. I am going to thoroughly rebut each and every point Mauler makes. ua-cam.com/video/JM2MKgf6osc/v-deo.html
For 2 god damn years, every time I argued that TFA was bad because Rey was a Mary Sue, everyone was just like “Trust me, the next movie will explain why she’s overpowered, she’s probably Obi-Wan’s daughter. Trust me, it’ll make sense in the next movie.” And then they won’t listen to me when I say that, that’s no excuse, because the explanation should have been in TFA, and they just wouldn’t let me speak. Now, after TLJ came out, all of those same people were like “No, it’s SO brilliant that her parents were nobodies, you CAN’T sit here and pretend like you don’t like it!” And then they ignored the rest of my criticisms. TLJ was so awful, that it proved me right from over those two years, but it blue balled me, preventing me from rubbing it in a bunch of asshole’s faces.
@Revan One of the most textbook ideas of courage is facing up to something that frightens or has hurt you, and doing so even acknowledging that. Luke was on edge during the Death Star infiltration and assault, and Vader was clearly a villain he feared on some level and was scarred by. Comparatively, what does Rey honestly have to fear and what does she walk into of her own volition? Almost every conflict in TFA is something she's roped into: The TiEs on Jakku, the First Order attacking Maz, Kylo kidnapping her, being cornered in the Snow Woods. TLJ meanwhile has her walk into the enemy base because she's just so damn sure Kylo will protect her (pretty baselessly given the films) and with essentially no fear or concern for her life. Even in RotJ, Luke was shaken by the Emperor's goadings and ultimately walked into the confrontation assuming they'd all be dead in the scenario he envisioned. Meanwhile, Rey has basically nothing to fear or be intimidated by. She wins against the mooks, shoots out the Stormtroopers, and succeeds at using mythical Jedi Mind Tricks within hours of learning they exist and trying them. She hands herself to the Supremacy because she's beaten Kylo before, she has basically no reason to be afraid of him with the movie info presented (compare Finn who could be intimidated since he got soundly beaten and nearly crippled for it). Rey is like that video game character who over levels before critical boss fights but then only gets into trouble because of scripted cutscenes, the kind of scenarios fans joke (good natured or otherwise) about as segregation between gameplay and story, except this is a movie in which that disconnect shouldn't exist.
I dislike when people do that with any series. "It's okay, it gets better in book three." "They're just getting started. These first 10 episodes don't set the tone for the show. Wait until season 2." A strong competently made thing should be able to stand on it's own. It should be good without saying "well its better than x" or "its not supposed to be special because it builds up to y". It shouldnt need outside sources to "help it look good". That's like saying "Keep your hand on the stove. Eventually your nerves will burn away and the pain will stop".
William Shelton Shme became pregnant as a result of the force rebelling against Plageous and Sidious using a dark side ritual to dampen the senses of the Jedi.
Rey’s parents being nobody is a distinction without a difference. Sure, her ancestry doesn’t matter… but that doesn’t show that a hero can come from anywhere. It shows us that some people are just randomly born *better* than others, for no reason. They’re more moral, more powerful. There’s no point in working to improve, because some Rey out there was just born better than you’ll ever be. Great theme, Rian.
Please, for the sake of the success of this series, have Overlord DVD on more. His mini rants are legendary and he is so verbose when he does it. It's almost like poetry.
Do you remember when Obi-Wan made Anakin kill his mother because having no attachments means murdering your family? No? Well that's just your opinion...
But did Obi -Wan not kill his Mother through inactivity? They knew where she was and they knew what kinda live a SLAVE on Tattoine lives. Obi and Anakin did nothing until she died. I think you could make a case, that this falls under "having a weird stance on attachment"
@@mittelz5976 I agree. Why the fuck didn't bring her with him later, when he was already kind of good as a jedi? If the Jedi didn't let him, I would've wanted to see a scene about it.
MittelZ bc in The Phantom Menace Anakin and Shmi tell Qui Gon, Padme, and Jar Jar that all slaves have a microscopic bomb embedded in them and if they escape they’ll get blown up. Anakin had to be freed on conditions. Shmi didn’t just stay bc she wanted to.
@@stupendous7848 To be fair, he could have freed his mother as well. They have the resources, and if they really wanted to have a not-fucked-up apprentice, they should have. But oh well, they didn't, and the events played out how they did.
I love how broom kid had nothing to do with anything. I like to think he got utterly battered by his master due to Rose screwing everything up with the animals.
I like to think it went something like “Oh, so you think you’re funny letting all the animals go!? Y’know what!? Duck it! We’re eating you and all your little friends now, now get to the kitchen!”
Imagine if TFA was your first Star Wars movie. How would you comprehend Rey? Luke learned about the force, started to believe it, and was able to achieve this small, but somewhat miraculous feat by the end of a new hope. Rey literally didn't believe in the force, but she still starts out with a whole suite of force powers. When Obi wan uses the Jedi mind trick, it's really clear that he's a well-trained and old wizard using a mysterious power. When Rey does it, it's just time so matter-of-factly. You would have to be so confused if you as a viewer didn't see Obi-wan do it first.
especially since the existence of the mind trick isn't mentioned in TFA, she can only get away with it thanks to an earlier movie setting it up. If TFA had been the first star wars movie people would have called bullshit on the mind trick immediately
I wasn't certain at first, but then he started shit-talking Silent Bob over his opinion of Star Wars. Not that I'm offended on his behalf or anything, but somebody trying to really make a point would consider how that looked and passed on that.
@Nate Gates thats the point but. Yeah. Sadly most youtubers will go down insulting. Even me(though i don’t actually make those vids) like thats why i foundanti sjws unhelpful. No one would listen to you insult them(i get that theor idiots but if we dont try to be calm woth them their just gonna yell louder)
I always took the Syndrome quote to be the epitome of objectivism, in that if we treat everybody, regardless of competence, as if they are worth as much as someone who is objectively more competent, then we are truly saying that nobody is truly worth anything. It always felt like a family friendly, super hero "Atlas Shrugged".
Do you know what I absolutely hate about avid The Last Jedi defenders? Nearly all of them reference that stupid "let the past die, kill it if you have to" scene in the movie, but then go on to praise a scene that they say is a better version of another scene from the original trilogy. That's not exactly "killing the past," now is it? If anything, the past is the only reason why that "new" scene even exists, because they stole it. Edit: Do you know what else I hate about these Last Jedi defenders? They keep linking the Jedi with general force users, as if they think that if the Jedi are wiped out, all force users in the universe will be wiped out, which is stupid to think because the Sith will still exist. What are the Sith? They're evil force users. Whether the Sith or the Jedi die doesn't matter, because force users will always exist. If the Jedi and Sith's "ancient religion" dies, then another force will take it's place. Whether it is religious, political, or social, so long as there is one group opposing the other, then war is inevitable, and you can damn well be sure that the Jedi and the Sith will be a part of it.
I'm sure that after the Battle of Russan, legends, there were still wars. And I'm sure that the Sith had little to no involvement in some of them. Speaking of Legends Thrawn wasn't a Force user but he still waged war on the new Republic.
Alex Kennard “I agree with the thing Kylo said about letting the past die, you Star Wars fans could learn a lot from him.” “Oh man, you hypersensitive Star Wars fans are just like Kylo Rey, with obsessing over everything to the point of insanity, he’s clearly a parody of you.”
Uh ... Kylo says to kill the past. Now some TLJ people may mistakenly cite this. But I think Rian is clear Kylo says this and we shouldn't trust everything Kylo says. As for sometimes TLJ being better than the "original" scene - I think this is "objectively" true. The throneroom fight was epic. The one in ROTJ was dumb and made no sense. Also you do know it is widely acknowledge ROTJ essentially is a remake of the 1977 film so Lucas was already trying to "improve" on the originals before Disney.
"Joseph Gordong Levitt wrote a 2000 letter essay..." Mark Hammil hated the direction they took Luke in. Yeah, let's see who is more relevant to the conversation.
Question: how did canto bight get away with selling weapons to the first order? Wouldn’t that be like at the end of WWI some company is selling weapons to Germany and Britain? Wouldn’t this be super illegal and be something the Republic should know about? Where is my world building?
Maybe J.J. had some ideas. We will never know because he needs to keep face for the company. Otherwise he will never make another Star Wars movie again. At least not with Lucasfilm/Disney behind him. The new republic seems pretty stupid and invited the first order almost. The galaxy is greedy, rich and too big for us. Perhaps Snoke will do a better job ruling our people. 😉 I don't blame everything on Rian Johnson. Chuck Wendig's set up in the Aftermath books was not the best as well. In Legend it took 20 years and in the new canon it takes 2 years before the Empire is totally defeted. Books don't count, of course. I'd like too see a screenwriter called Timothy Zahn for any SW movie/tv-show in the future. His new Thrawn book blew me away after the first pages. Where is James Luceno by the way? I never tried before to compare real life history and some sci-fi fantasty story. Of course, it is very bad. War is not a nice and sweet thing. Lucasfilm try, try again. 🤔🙄
The only assumption to be made is the New Republic is incompetent and paid no attention to the criminal underworld or the fall of the new Jedi Temple. They didn't bother to reinforce the Resistance after they got to Crait either. Somehow, the Empire was a better, more stable regime than the New Republic, proving Palpatine was right to control the galaxy. *sigh* When The Phantom Menace makes more sense than the sequel trilogy...
I don’t know why the production of military equipment is left completely up to some party independent from the first order and the new republic. It seems like they would have either started producing their own weapons or just taken over the factories supplying weapons already.
Luke saw much dark, but a hint of good in his father and he was willing to lay down his blade to treat with him. New Luke sees good but a hint of dark in his nephew and tried to murder him in his sleep. Makes sense.
according to the tlj defenders kylos darkness was as strong maybe even stronger than vaders and it wasn't just a hint. i don't believe that at all though because i don't even believe that kylo in the present is as dark as vader was, why would i believe he was in the past.
Dimitri Koukoulas 1) apologist is someone who will defend something from any criticism no matter how valid 2) you don’t have to apologize for liking it, just stop denying there are good criticisms of it. Stop crying that people don’t like something you do
I think that something else stupid about "they sell to the rebels and the empire uwu" is that, in universe, the companies that make TIE fighters and X-Wings are different. (TIEs are built by Sienar Fleet Systems and X-wings are built by Incom) so nobody who is selling X-wings is also selling TIE fighters, unless they're dealing in second-hand fighter craft, in which case they're probably not selling to either of the big factions because those would probably be buying brand new ships or, in the case of the First Order, making their own with their GIANT FACTORY SHIP.
This is so much more fun to watch post E IX, knowing now that Rey is not a "nobody" after all. Wonder how our reviewer felt about Episode IX, and learning he was wrong all along.
One of the biggest problems with Luke in Last Jedi is that he blames the Jedi for a mistake that HE made in opposition to what he was taught. Yoda was trying to teach Luke NOT to act impulsively based on premonition in Empire Strikes Back, so for Luke to lose faith in the Jedi over what he did is absurd. Luke considering killing Kylo was entirely on him, NOT the beliefs of the Jedi. If anything, Luke should feel like he isn't worthy to be a Jedi and that he failed those that came before him. Then again, considering how simplistic and childish his criticism of the Prequel-era Jedi was, I think it's likely that Luke was just looking for an excuse to be a coward rather than actually analyzing the Jedi in a meaningful way.
Logic ''So you've been feeling drawn to the dark side? Ok, I think you are old enough for the Skywalker 'talk', my boy''. Rian Johnson ''...and then Luke whips out his laser sword to kill his underage nephew, who he's been watching sleeping several times'' Luke ''Why would the Jedi Order do this?''
@Super JLK NO! In Attack of the Clone, Yoda offensively throws a light saber at enemies. Granted, they are facing mainly robots. But the Jedi do kill - Mace re Jango. The Jedi didn't forget. Lucas just threw out canon and now the Jedi kill first negating the OT.
@Super JLK No. There tons of those fly creatures and other organic beings with the Trade Federation. Admittedly, they were being shot at but Yoda clearly said Jedi NEVER attack and only DEFENSIVELY use violence. In Attack they are clearly doing on the offense
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 _"Protection_ and defense. Never for attack." You realize the Trade Federation had two Jedi and a Galactic Senator tied up and about to be killed by wild animals when the Jedi arrived to _protect_ them.
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 By your logic, A New Hope negates the OT since we're explicitly told that Obi-Wan was a GENERAL in the Clone Wars, and that he and Luke's father fought together. It is true that Yoda believed a Jedi should only use violence defensively, but that just isn't practical when you're in a war. The Prequels touch on the idea of the Jedi being pressed into a more militant role despite it going against their core philosophy, though I would agree that it isn't nearly explored as much as it could've been.
Me and a friend discussed TLJ about a month before the premiere and we discussed Rey's parents being nobodies, as a worst case scenario. We agreed it would be one of the worst, but possibe ideas. So I guess TLJ is predictable.
Like, even HISHE dunked on this film, and they didn’t even go that hard. They simply said “Hey, remember when Kylo made the force keep laser blasts in mid-air in the last film? Why can’t Luke do that, but better, since he’s clearly more experienced? And that would be the awsome, logical, COOL scene to end TLJ on.
Oddly the guys behind HISHE stated they really liked the film. Guess they either put their opinions aside to get more views or they liked it in spite of their greviences
Looking at this after Rise of Skywalker makes it all the funnier given that while Major Lee complained about the various theories about Rays heritage, one of them is that she's Emperor Palpatine's granddaughter.
I love how this guy makes fun of somebody for liking Kylo's mask but argues that the heart of Star Wars are explosions and pretty colors. Unbelievable.
Bridge trolls are actually useful members of society, making sure that tolls are collected, repairing the bridge, taking care of unsavoury elements, enforcing a healthy curfew and instilling the good habit of traveling in groups in people...
Gotta love how "Fantheories bad. If you predict it bad. Stop theorising!" keeps going to THE SLAVE KIDS ARE THE NEW RESISTANCE. With literally nothing but his headcanon for that. It's far from the only hypocrisy but he pointed it out SO much I wonder if he even realises that there's nothing in the movie that even remotely colaborates that theory. (And his fantheories get weirder and weirder and weirder as the vid goes on)
IF The sequels were a well-constructed story, Finn would have slowly developed more rebel stormtroopers over the three movies and that could have been the base of his subplot's "everyone has the power to change the world" theme. As it is... They spend one movie introducing a rebel Stormtrooper. The second having him go off on a random pointless mission that vaguely alludes to the idea that anyone could be force sensitive without committing to it and having a conclusion. And then a third movie that instantaneously connects him with rebel Stormtroopers with absolutely no buildup, something he didn't earn. What an absolute waste of a character.
@@joeyn985 post rise of skywalker his video is even more insulting turns out those "stupid theories" from the fans were right because JJ thought "wow rian this is shitte storywise youve left me with" the ONLY thing this arrogant douchcanoe got right was his reylo theories.
I've been waiting a long time for you guys to cover this video. There are a lot of videos defending The Last Jedi but none of them are quite as contentious as this one.
Robert Boucher Jr. that's not true. he also spends a portion of it criticising people who didn't like the film. that means the film is good after all somehow.
I checked his IMDB page and it seems "Major" Lee Lustig mostly works in the editorial department on reality tv shows. So, I guess it makes sense that he wouldn't know quality if it sucked his nuts dry.
Wait, so can't the argument of "You didn't like it cause it went against what you expected" be turned against him to. "You only liked it cause its something you wanted to happen."
Anakins line about sand has been ridiculed to hell and back but he is actually totally justified. if you have not experienced African desert sand on your skin you have no frame of reference. having it blown onto your skin with any kind of force is like getting grinded and YES that sand is so fine it absolutely gets EVERYWHERE. not to mention that sand storms would be a serious lethal threat for any life on a desert planet.
not quite the point but let's talk about it. the romance is necessary to set up Luke's and Leia's origin and if that was outsourced into a book people would have rightfully criticized the films for Anakin's relationship with Padme coming out of left field. AOTC spend too much time with it though and of course it could have been done a lot better. On the other hand Han and Leia is hardly a masterfully crafted romance plot in the OT either, but it is more focused and shorter overall which is undoubtedly in its favor
Rey's parents were already nobody in TFA. It makes no sense that Rey was affected by the "they're nobody" reveal in TLJ. Mauler said it himself in the critique series, even if they were new characters not previously famous, they still were Rey's parents, two individuals with personality that Rey would want to get to know. WHY IN THE FUCK WAS SHE SAD THAT THEY WEREN'T SOMEONE FAMOUS?!?!??! The reveal only makes sense outside of the movie, it's a middle finger to the audience, it's terrible writing that doesn't care about what the characters would act like in-universe. Rian wrote a shitty fan-fiction.
What Kylo meant by “nobodies” is that they didn’t care about her. Rey didn’t care about bloodlines, she just wanted to know that her parents loved her and there was a reason for them leaving her. When Kylo told her the truth she was devastated because out of all the possible outcomes, the one thing she couldn’t stand to hear was the fact that they didn’t care about her
Has this dude ever seen star wars? Yoda was not from a big well known family. Mace Windo. Along with others going by the movies as far as we know. They had countless jedi and sith in the old expanded eu that fell into this theme. Yeah they still needed training to become who they are. They were just not handed the gifts like Rey was. The idea anyone could possibly train to become a jedi or sith was already there. Yes anyone could with enough training.
@@SolarDragon007 The whole idea is a strawman fallacy. It's something that they say another person has just to easily knock it down. The real argument is more of why Rey is so powerful she doesn't need any teammates, always has the convenient skill for the situation, never has any challenging or at least elusive villain, and shows none of the team chemistry the original films had because they just give Rey all the skills. The entire strawman of Rey is just some random person is merely avoiding talking about all of the legit criticisms I just mentioned.
Maj0r Lee predicted that Rey's parents will be nobodies. The Last Jedi revealed that Rey's parents were nobodies. Pfft, how predictable. Rian Johnson is such a hack!
So Luke trying to kill Kylo Ren is him following the Jedi teachings to the letter, which is supposed to be in-character for him, despite the fact that he knows that the only reason why the universe was saved to begin with was because he went against said teachings to redeem his father from the dark path he took? I'm sorry, and I don't mean to be disrespectful, but is this guy high? He has to be, right? If he isn't, then he must be a massive troll.
Last Jedi fans really have to jump through hoops to explain the sparing Vader but wanting to kill Kylo plot hole. I had an argument with someone about it and he said, he just didn't kill Vader because he'd be doing the Emperor's work. THE EMPEROR WANTED HIM TO TURN TO THE DARKSIDE DUMBASS! Did you not watch the fucking movie I have no other choice, but to declare the vast majority of Last Jedi Fans are people who grew up with the prequels appreciated the action, but couldn't like them enough because the bad acting and boring cringy romance segments and have only watched the Originals once or twice and can't get into them because they're dated. Can't say 100% of them fall into this category, but it feels like the only way you can like these high budgeted, but story/character dumpster fires is if this is how you've seen Star Wars prior to the Disney series
Watch Jenny Nicholson vid. She actually arguments that Luke is a sociapath all along, but he couldn't beat Vader, so he tried turning him instead cause that's the way to beat Vader. If he could beat him, obviously he would have murdered him (kinda contradicts their battle in VI, but never said these TLJ defenders are the brightest). Of course since Kylo is weaker, it was TOTALLY in character for Luke to murder him in his sleep like the Sociopath he is. I mean... seriously, WHAT Original Saga trilogy did these people watch to come to these insane conclusions?
@@hassathunter2464 let me get this straight. Jenny thinks that Luke, a man who mourned the death of his family, who went out of his way to save his friend and sister from Jabba the Hut, who destroyed a planet destroying weapon to save the galaxy, if not the entire universe, and who explicitly told Yoda that he didn't want to kill Darth Vader because he could still see the light inside of him, thinks he is a Sociopath? I'm sorry, but what in the ever loving fuck is she talking about? How is any of that sociopathic? Seriously, did these people watch a different Star Wars, like some horrid Chinese knock-off or something?
@@alexkennard2422 Yup, she tries to paint him off as someone who is a murderer who'll try anything in his repertoire to go and murder the person opposing him. *Obviously* he tried to do the murder-by-emperor route in ROTJ so him murdering his nephew in cold blood is totally in character of this wicked evil person from the OT. It's not even the only take that makes you question just exactly what Star Wars movies did she watch. "Yeah, actually fighting wouldn't be what the good guy does. Killing in his sleep, yeah, that's good guy stuff" (paraphrasing but she literally said that).
1:56:00 The thing about Goblin Slayer is that it is a hard M-rated dark fantasy story about the reality of a D&D like setting where there are Always Chaotic Evil creatures like goblins running around, that can completely fuck up (more often than not quite literally) entire villages and small towns, but the "adventurers" don't really do anything about them, because killing goblins doesn't bring them the same fame and fortune as slaying dragons. In other words, it's a crapsack world where the ones without power are ravaged by monsters, and the ones with power do not care, because they consider doing so beneath them, leading to a cycle of suffering. Now, the real reason why it got infamous is because Crunchyroll fucked up big time, presuming that it was just another cutesy saccharine Isekai based on the art direction, and then gave it a TV-PG rating, advertising it alongside said fluffy isekai stories. To say that the whiplash was intense once the decoy-protagonists were murdered and raped by goblins would be a bit of an understatement.
Oh yes some of the videos about it were classic. As in i do believe some failed to understand what supernatural evil is or have no idea what dungeons and dragons is. That showing bad guys to be bad. Somehow hypersexually a moment that could be missed if you bloody blink. As in people have moment that famous moment out to be all drooling with tongues out. Eyes looking happy and bright. Enjoying it and asking for more. When in reality the show tells a different story, as in dread, crying out of fear and pain. Suffering. Making it out to be a very bad thing. With Goblin Slayer punishing the creatures for their evil deeds. Oh yeah and mother's basement one issue he took with it. Is some people might get off to it and that is why it's bad as a moment in the show. Even someone talking about how goblins are like jews. I am not even joking. ua-cam.com/video/WCwCOMJBJR0/v-deo.html
@@forestelfranger aw padanetic romantic if I remember correctly he claimed anime have a sexual harrasement problem and speaking of padantic romantic before he got rid of the goblin slayer video he actually disabled the comments and after his claim on that video im surprised his sexual harrasement video wasn't downvoated to oblivion
Don't the golbins come from a fucking moon full of fuckers with somehow human bones powering some machines? Yeah,I've play D&D usually there is a reason monsters come up rather then "Poof we need a monster" usually connected to a long term plot.. Does,every evil being have a moon full of them or just the buttseck goblins? If It is like D&D exp and gold would be about the same no matter what you kill..Why is no one garbing these kids and saying "The goblins like the rape everyones buttholes..don't go in there" I mean for a D&D setting It runs on MMO logic.
When he mentioned the movie with the samurai with the thousand year war, I just imagined a couple of samurai playing chess talking about the war, and various moves represent turning points in the war and trigger flashbacks of said moments. I think that'd be pretty cool.
If Snoke could send force visions to Luke to convince him that Ben was turning to the dark side, why did he need the McMuffin to find him on the hidden planet? Wouldn't he be able to find him already through the force?
These TLJ apologist videos age so well over time. Now that we know the leaks and what is probably going to happen to Rey's heritage this is just pure gold xD
I would call this a case of self-justification and The Last Jedi was merely a stepping stone for it. He basically says it himself: he liked the movie just because it pissed people off. That's something he can use to stand out and make himself out to be more important than he really is. I suspect it comes from a deep-seeded insecurity. His video's title may be "The Last Jedi is amazing and you're all insane." But, what he really means is: "I am amazing and you're all insane." That's what I get out of it, anyway. Based on the evidence presented, that's what I'm guessing. When it was asked, "Who's this guy trying to convince?" I think the answer is "Himself."
100%. I think many sequel defenders (like many SJWs) couldn't care less about the movie. This is just an opportunity for them to virtue signal their moral superiority (or their superior artistic knowledge), get glowing praise from the mainstream media/creators, and call all their critics bigots without ever having to justify, defend, or argue anything. Accomplishment and praise for zero effort type thing... just pretend you like and care about a movie. Reminds me of these comic defenders who *dont even read comics* and games "journalists" that barely play games. It's just to get their social dopamine hit.
27:41 Ryan Johnson: "And Rey did it without your precious gifts, your oh-so-special Luke. I'll give them heroics. I'll give them the most spectacular heroics anyone's ever seen! And when I'm old and I've had my fun, I'll give the Force to everyone so that everyone can be Force users. *Everyone* can be Jedi! And when everyone's Jedi... *no one* will be."
@@sirquaffler542 LOL I'd really like to know where people get this training nonsense or why it matters. Did Superman "train" to be Superman? No. He just is - doesn't make him a bad character. The force like Jedi are just myths so saying they have rules, etc is absurd. I know Mauler needs to lie to his fanboys to make cash but he's still a complete hack and doesn't know SW. But hey gotta make money you know.
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 We get this "training nonsense" because it completely breaks our suspension of disbelief. I can accept Superman being the way he is because it is reasonable to deduce that there is a significant amount of time after he is first made aware of his powers where he trains and practices his powers to become a superhero. We don't get that with Rey. Within a matter of days - yes, days - she goes from being completely unaware of her abilities to mind-controlling people, beating a well-trained and highly-skilled Dark Side user in lightsaber combat, nailing several storm troopers from hundreds of feet away with a pistol she had no idea how to use beforehand, pulling off incredibly hard aerial maneuvers with a ship she had never used before, triple-shotting TIE fighters the first time she fires a cannon from that same ship - do I need to go on? That is all ABSURD. It's obvious to anyone with eyes that she's a Mary Sue.
44:00 If we assume that within the world of Star Wars, being force sensitive is simply another character trait that someone can possess, like being good with a blaster, being a skilled swordsman, wielding influence, being strong willed, etc. Then what Major Lee is advocating for is that all characters should adopt the same trait. This is immediately comparable to saying "every character in Star Wars should have father issues" or "Every character in Star Wars should have a quick-temper", by giving every character the same character trait, the trait means nothing going forward. This is a whole other discussion regarding what a character trait even means, but touching on it briefly, I would go so far as to say that a character trait in storytelling is only relevant if it is restricted. The fact that everybody is not the best pilot in the resistance, or the fact that everyone is not an ex-stormtrooper, means that when we encounter characters that ARE the best pilot or an ex-stormtrooper it is inherently interesting. To cite an example, take Thor from the MCU. One of the defining characteristics about Thor is that he is an asgardian. Their culture is very different to earth, and so his outlook on things is rather different to that of Tony Stark. If every character in the MCU was also an asgardian, then the fact that Thor was an asgardian would become irrelevant as it would cease to be something which differentiates Thor from other characters.
I just go back to this quote from The Incredibles: *And when everyone's super, no one will be.* - Syndrome By making everyone Force-sensitive, the Force is no longer a gift you work hard to unlock and control. Now, it's just a normal part of society. That's not what the Force is established to be.
The lightsaber gave Rey visions, visions made Rey run into the forest, running into the forest led to her getting captured, her getting captured was the reason Finn helped in the attack of death star 3, Finn's inside knowledge of death star 3 is the reason they were able to destroy it. Take the lightsaber out and everything changes so how it got from Bespin to that cantina is very important.
That read like one of those old direct TV commercials. “Your cable went out, since your cable went out you drove to the bar to watch the game, since you drove to the bar to watch the game you got drunk at the bar, since you got drunk at the bar, you drove drunk, since you drive drunk you got a DUI. Don’t get a DUI, don’t get cable.”
@@davidcriff Not with EFAP directly, no (apart from Doomcock's schedule which famously excludes any appearance of him on Saturdays, which is the usual day EFAP gathers for their main show). The issue is MauLer drifted fully into FNT orbit since and as you probably know - FNT and DVD burnt all the bridges between them. That includes their respective satellite content creators I'd imagine.
22:43 how can her parents be nobodies that sold her to get drunk.......... if we see them leaving on a spaceship? That's the one thing that EVERYONE forgets about😂
lol. From a serious standpoint, maybe they used the spaceship to get to the place to get drunk, like, Canto Blight, I guess? Eeeeehhhhhhh mmaaaaaayyyybbbbeeeeee? idk
@@temporaneo617 Something I just realized was that it didn't even have to be her parents. It could have been a friend of her parents selling her off, it could have been a sibling of her parents, hell it could have a kidnapper that, well, kidnapped her and sold her off. Just because she yells "come back!" or something like that, it doesn't mean that the ones in the spaceship were her parents.
According to major lee Luke doesn’t beat Rey because he’s a nice guy, then says Kylo will kick Luke’s ass but Rey has proven to be better than kylo? This guys “logic” is unbelievable.
Considering the vitriol in their video it's unlikely to be satire. obviously could be wrong but I doubt it. On a slightly more satisfying note it's brilliant how badly the Rey is nobody thing backfired and hating on all the fans throries backfired so spectacularly within the 1.25 of Major lees video. I hope they've realised how badly they screwed up and how wrong they really were. one piece of advice he probably won't learn but really should is never go after the fans of anything because you never know when it will come back to bite you in the arse.
I love the argumentation in this video. "It was good, yay" And the way he destroyed arguments against it. We should have all debates be like that. "I didn't like this" "I did" So much is achieved!
I know it's late to post this, but I LOVE his point on predictability regarding Rei's parents, while showing several theories. One of them is her being Palpatine's granddaughter. GO FIGURE!
It just suddenly dawned on me... The Cantino scene... Wasn't Finn wearing a clearly identifiable "resistance" jacket? Most of the people effected by Rose and Finns little stunt probably saw the resistance attack them, a neutral group. If they spread word to other planets about the resistance attacking defenseless people, they likely wouldn't have come to their aid at the end of the film. Also, I doubt the "evil" rich people who developed weapons and ships for the resistance, would consider doing that again. Perhaps they would consider at the triple the cost. The heart came before the mind, and what did it cost to most of the film? Holdo denying her crew critical information, Finn and Rose potentially aggravating the only remaining allies the resistance had left, Rey trying and failing to tempt Kylo to the lightside (leaving alive a horrible monster who will kill everyone she knows and loves), Luke's entire character rework which ruined a classic character. But, in the end, Finn Rose Holdo and Rey caused the most issues in TLJ, I only hope Rose dies in her sleep, as so her character isn't allowed to cause any more damage. I won't be seeing episode 9 regardless.
I hope you changed your mind about seeing episode 9. It's a masterpiece in corporate stupidity. A triumph in desperate backtracking. A unforgettable comedy of errors. It genuinely is worth watching if only to see the beginning of the end of Disney Star Wars. lol
Wow......this guy is _deluded_ . _Commenting while watching..._ It's interesting to me that Disney Star Wars has been very clear that the new rebels are "the Resistance" not "the Rebellion". They've been equally clear that the First Order is _not_ the Empire. The FO has a different symbol to visually note the difference. The Resistance, however, uses the decades-old symbol of the Rebellion. Also...why would a 9-year-old kid (a slave) even know what that symbol is or what it represents? As a die-hard fan of the Expanded Universe novels, Disney's decision was heartbreaking, because there was a lot of good material there that could be adapted. MauLer, you say that fans of the EU were hoping for a copy and paste of some of the good elements, but imply that's not what we got. One of my many frustrations with the Disney universe is that they _have_ borrowed things from the EU, but they've bastardized those things. It was frustrating enough that Disney said they wouldn't give us any of the EU. It's so much worse to then do it anyway, but with a twist. All that does is tell us EU fans that you _could have_ given us what we wanted, but you flipped us off instead and claimed you were being "original". Liars.
@@bigrabii9470 The simple cynical answer is that they didn't want to give any credit or money to the EU authors. So they tried to replace and rebrand it enough to be exclusively Disney IP.
One of the first arguments is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. "If you predict it that is the definition of predicatable." Some people are better at figuring things out than others. Not to mention, many people came up with the theory she came from nothing thus DISPROVING HIS WHOLE STUPID POINT. This guy sure is convincing. I now see the light that TLJ is not only the greatest Star Wars movie, but it is also the greatest version of itself and could not possibly be any better!!!!
I saw that as a likely possiblity as well, I just thought "Wait a minute, that'd be an idiotic and anticlimactic reveal, no way they'd do that, nevermind." The movie comes out, I see it as soon as possible, *Thursday at 10:00 PM, in 3D,* wondering how that would go down, in that moment when I saw it, no possibilities came to mind, believe it or not, refrained from watching theory videos for months upon months on end, and the movie was still boring and disappointing. Hell, I would've been okay with the parents being nobodies, as long as they provided a logical explanation for why Rey is so powerful, after the movie I started thinking about explanations, my best one is that she is the reincarnation of the Daughter, Morai I think was her name, and I also suspected that Snoke could've been the Son, surviving Anakin's attempt on his life, explaining his fixation on the Skywalkers and tie pretty much everything together wonderfully.
Pinocchio saying: My nose will grow... Now!", isn't a prediction if he's wrong, or possibly right, since that's going to make it a lie and make his nose grow... That is a paradoxical concept. Yolo!
“Who cares if he tried to commit mutiny?! It’s not like it went anywhere!”
This video is going to give me an aneurysm.
who cares if it gave you an aneurysm, it didn’t go anywhere
David Mendez dang you got me there lol
who cares if I got you, it didn’t go anywhere
@@davidmendez3899 The funny thing is we make the argument for Canto Blight, but noooooo, we can't use that, since that is perfect cinematography or whatever and having 30 minutes of pointless plot is gooooood.
But it's perfect for Snoke, since the movies wasted his potential so we should just stop caring already!
Pretty much a case definition of "good if I say so, bad if you say so". *facepalm*
Kylo Ren was being pretty unreasonable when he turned to the Dark Side. Who cares if Luke tried to murder him in his sleep? It's not like it went anywhere!
TLJ bombers are great; they are capable of decimating a dreadnaught with a single payload. They only sacrifice speed, long distance payload delivery, durability, maneuverability, and the capacity to survive the destruction of their target. Just every aspect of a bomber that allows it to survive to deliver the bombs and then get out alive...
They are amazing! They don't even need landing gear; they just sit on their bomb bays, giving ground maintenance crews cancer, and get toppled after a single burst of wind and explode. Also, if they crash land, they land on the bomb bay, and because the bombs are built to explode under literally any physical trauma, it explodes. Also, a Battlefield 1 Kolibri has taken down an entire squadron of these bombers with only one shot. Also, a Battlefield 1 Gas Mask has taken down an entire fleet of these bombers simply by putting the Gas Mask on. Also, an entire armada of these bombers was taken down by simply existing and spontaneously exploding. No faulty electronics, no fire, no explosions, no bullets no trauma. They just died by existing.
BEST BOMBERS EVAH!
Not bombers just kamikaze transports.
@@isaiahlee2902 Awesome. 😊
Kinda reminds me of Hellsing Abridged:
"Father Maxwell! America has fallen into chaos and Anarchy!"
"So Millenium infiltrated them too...."
"No sir."
"Huh"
Love the sarcasm, however to take this am additional notch, using those Bombers would require a heavy duty escort fighter, as opposed to the X-wing (high speed attack fighter) and A-wing (high speed interceptors, of which they only have one?). Something like the old E-wing or a modernized ARc-170. But that would require understanding the things they stuff in the series.
@Super JLK or just upgrade the old Y-wing
Also note: Thor Skywalker, a UA-camr who didn't like The Last Jedi did predict that Rey's parents would be nobodies. So he isn't even the only one who had that prediction as he claimed.
He just makes no salient arguments. I don't understand how people think it's a good critique of the critics or defense of the film.
TheAdarkerglow I remember that too. Good point. Out of the SWs UA-camrs he's by far my favorite. Very laid back and mellow who acknowledges TLJ's shortcomings and has a really cool voice. His fan-fiction writings of TLJ and other stuff are great.
@@Avarn388 Eckharts Ladder is good too.
Plenty of people guessed it, it really wasnt that hard to see.
honestly...complaing Rey is a nobody...isn'y much in terms of criticism...really
Jayden C it’s more of the build up that was never executed on. People would be fine with Rey’s parents being nobodies if she wasn’t as powerful as she was. I mean, she could do tons of things Luke couldn’t do, even when he had training. If she had actually trained to receive her powers, then people would also understand why she’s so powerful. It appears that people don’t often take kindly to overpowered individuals who don’t have explanations for their “unearned” powers.
Luke: "I won't kill my father because I still see good in him."
Also Luke: "I will kill Kylo because I see the darkside in him."
If you actually watched the ot, you will know that Luke was moments away from killing his father just like he was moments away from killing Kylo before he stopped and realized what he did. It’s possible for people to make the same mistake twice
@@xxraddude3621 Kylo was in bed
Vader was actively attacking
*NOT THE SAME.*
Project Redfoot Luke didn’t need to go full on when fighting his father but he did.
@@xxraddude3621 Because Vader said he was gonna target Leia which provoked Luke into striking in anger.
@@xxraddude3621 Bro. It is a heck of a lot different to have Luke lose his cool during the fight after vader GOADED him about his sister than to sense the dark side in Kylo and fuckin go march down to his hut and stand over him with his blade ignited ready to kill his ass.
I love how he mocks people for thinking Rey is special, and then the 9th movie goes and literally makes her a Palpatine.
Yeah it's weird it's like JJ watched all the videos in defense of the last jedi and then made Rise of Skywalker tobmake them all shit like Rey not being a nobody and holdo being a traitor and coward who tried to run away
How is that his fault?
So predictable lol
@@Wackaz bro you see how hard he goes in? he's insulting people and shit so to see the movie he loved get shit on puts a smile on my face at least
4:23:00 yoda jumping around is silly, yoda telekinetically using his light sabers is not??? They haven't seen that in action before, it's fucking awkward as fuck... I don't even know what's silly in it...
Plus this is why i said the people who don't like yoda jumping around or using lightsaber and want him to use the foece to fight know nothing about yoda... Yoda literally said in the OT, the force is never used for attack, only for defence... What destroys the character of yoda more than him using the force to attack??? These people don't know about star wars... I hate this idea of going into a review blind... You're just trying to shock yourselves rather than add information... These people are just stammering,trying to remember things from the prequels and even the OT... Wow... I just assumed westerners had collective brain tumor when the prequels were released and they were told to hate by plinkett using an abysmal review... He was literally making points from thin air... He only got 3 criticisms right in the phantom menace and they were nitpicks... Go watch icy the fire mage destroy his videos mauler style...
Luke died because he drank unpasteurized manatee milk
Sounds like we need a trilogy on food standards in the galaxy!
Raw milk is better for you lol
We need a galaxy wide FDA
@@Si_Mondo Its not though. People used to get sick from raw milk hence why you can't get raw milk at the grocery store.
You realize he was a farmer right?
1:11:39 "I could analyze this scene forever, it's just so deeply layered". Ok.....are we SURE this guys video isn't satire?
I thought the point of satire was to be exaggerated while making a point
No evidence whatsoever.
"I could analyze this scene for hours, that's why my video is only 47 minutes with no focus on evidence of how deeply layered this scene is against people's criticisms."
All he means is that it's incredibly vague. We have no idea what characters are going to do or where they stand on anything because literally nothing was established properly.
They do debate this guy in another EFAP so guess it isn't
How come every "Guardian of TLJ" sounds like a smug, pseudo intellectual, that his argument is: _"TLJ is Great! You don't understand the movie because you're not smart enough"._
If there was an actual single good argument to why TLJ is good, it wouldn't get that much of flak from the fans.
But there isn't... because TLJ was 100% shit.
You need high iq to understand tlj
Eh, I wouldn't go that far. It's more like 20% shit, 50% wasted potential and 30% decent movie. It has its moments, the cinematography is pretty good, there are some pretty neat ideas here and there... but it's the same thing as with food. Let's say you go into a restaurant and order a pizza. After a while the waiter returns, and brings out one of the tastiest looking pizzas you have ever seen. Then you cut it up, and realize that while the toppings look fantastic, the dough underneath is uncooked, and between the two there is a thin layer of shit. Then you turn to the waiter, and he tells you "well, it's only 20% shit, the rest are not, so please give me a tip".
The funniest part? Apparently there are people out there who are so in love with the toppings that they eat the pizza and tip the waiter anyway, and then just blame everyone else for being snobs with "sophisticated palates" for not being able to enjoy raw dough and shit as a spice.
I'd say it's 10% shit 20% crap 15% Rian Johnson wanted it in 5% titty milk 50% merch and 100% wasted potential.
@@TrajGreekFire insert rick and Morty copy pasta
@@Horvath_Gabor You pretty much nailed that description, However I find it very hard to enjoy the cinematography and visuals if you hate the characters and bored out of your mind, I get why people enjoy it though and it's fine for them, but when someone says the movie is "Good" or "Amazing and you don't get it" they give WAY too much credit for an overall rushed, poorly written film, that had LOTS of potential thrown to the trash.
"not murdering his nephew was Luke taking a stand against the Jedi ways."
literally from ROTS when Anakin was turning to the dark side: "he was an unarmed prisoner. I shouldn't have done that, it's not the Jedi way."
Yeah, but according to all these Disney-loving retards: "pReQuElS bAd, SeQuElS mAsTeRpIeCeS!"
@Chandler Spitsworth he's to powerful to be left alive
Chandler Spitsworth how about the countless times obi wan and Yoda tried convincing Luke to kill his own father
@@xxraddude3621 not exactly accurate - Yoda never tries to convince Luke to kill Vader specifically - he just tells him to confront him... he wants Luke to help topple the Empire. You could infer Obi-Wan telling him to in the sense that Luke says "I can't kill my own father" and Obi-Wan says "then the emperor has already won" - so this isn't really countless... it's 1, maybe - but I also think you are missing the point. The Jedi aren't against killing "under any circumstances" - they are specifically against 1. killing out of passion/anger/fear or for your own selfish gain, and 2. killing unarmed opponents who have surrendered, are incapacitated, or are not a current threat. The Obi-Wan implication could simply be chalked up to the fact that he couldn't envision a scenario where Vader and the Emperor surrendered or were beaten without being killed.
The Jedi are not against violence/killing in scenarios of defending others, self defense, or in the midst of ongoing combat. Luke considering killing his nephew out of fear, preemptively because of a vision (always in motion is the future), against a sleeping, unarmed, and not currently hostile "opponent" is directly against the Jedi ways. This seems to me fairly consistent with what we see from Jedi in episodes 1 through 6...
@@xxraddude3621 I think you could make a better argument from episode 3 when Yoda and Obi-Wan seem to have the pretty clear goal of killing the Emperor and Anakin... although I do think part of that movie is meant to show how the Jedi are not perfectly following their own code.
"They were nobody" - MajorLee`s favourite phrase. Boy, that didn`t age well, did it?
Yeah. This idiot must've *really* hated The Rise of Skywalker for ruining his oh-so-perfect Last Jedi.
Nah, he still enjoys Rise of Skywalker over "I recognize dat so I clapped!" reasons.
DeepEye1994 Oh yay.
@@DeepEye1994 Damn, i was hoping his world was crushed lol.
@@thefollowing8127 You should’ve known from the debate that no matter what they did, he was gonna love it.
If he can call us all insane, invite him on and debate him on it. If he can call us insane, then he should have no problem defending himself.
There's no way he would come on because he knows he'd get shredded. If his arguments were good, he'd do it.
Based on what interactions he and Mauler have had, I think he hates Mauler too much to come and debate him.
Mauler actually did invite him by the end of EFFAPing his video
He doesn't have the balls.
Or the intellect, for that matter.
I thought the theme of Canto Bight was don't park illegally. Imagine if they just docked at proper space port or whatever. Rian Johnson is clearly an advocate of obeying parking laws.
well that subverts my expectations!
If they hadn't acted like total idiots, the plan might've worked. Sure it was still risky, but Holdo's plan was just as if not more risky despite what the film tells you.
He's a big fan of gamera vs. guiron.
The only good message in the movie. Park properly, people!
I've actually seen a video essay where that was genuinely presented as the point and theme of Canto Bight
Not even thirty minutes in... "If it was a theory you came up with (as far as Snoke), it was a bad theory" Well, joke's on you, pal, someone out there WROTE a theory about Snoke being nobody.
So Snoke is Rey's father then.
@@soyekinthehideaway6763 Was it Hbbomberguy or Sargon in disguise?
@@Superschokokeks Depend on how you see those two I suppose. I personally think he's far worse.
Worse yet is it appears Rian Johnson, a guy that admits he hates and isn't good at writing, JUST SO HAPPENED to borrow almost verbatim someone's Star Wars fanfiction for the plot of The Last Jedi right around the time where the script writing could have been taking place chronologically. Whoops!
matchesburn It’s obviously a coincidence.
Why do people ALWAYS assume the worst when assuming the best is better?
"It has to be about something bigger"
He says, about a movie that devoted 30 minutes to a sub plot about the evils of capitalism (from the biggest company on Earth) and the greys of war profiteering morality (in a space wizard movie for kids), that somehow still managed to spend 2 HOURS AVOIDING ANY AND ALL MEANINGFUL WORLD BUILDING.
You got to understand, it’s not bad when Disney’s a capitalist company, it’s just bad when others are doing what Disney does. Jk I agree with you.
not to mention, that this sub plot turned out to be completely pointless, course it became a dead end and the other party hat a "better" plan to begin with, lol
4:23:00 yoda jumping around is silly, yoda telekinetically using his light sabers is not??? They haven't seen that in action before, it's fucking awkward as fuck... I don't even know what's silly in it...
Plus this is why i said the people who don't like yoda jumping around or using lightsaber and want him to use the foece to fight know nothing about yoda... Yoda literally said in the OT, the force is never used for attack, only for defence... What destroys the character of yoda more than him using the force to attack??? These people don't know about star wars... I hate this idea of going into a review blind... You're just trying to shock yourselves rather than add information... These people are just stammering,trying to remember things from the prequels and even the OT... Wow... I just assumed westerners had collective brain tumor when the prequels were released and they were told to hate by plinkett using an abysmal review... He was literally making points from thin air... He only got 3 criticisms right in the phantom menace and they were nitpicks... Go watch icy the fire mage destroy his videos mauler style...
Director: Comes up with idea - Genius
Fan: Comes up with the same idea - Predictable
Yeah it bs
this is literally his thoughts by the way he LOVED rise of skywalker yet never mentioned the movie confirmed the same f ing fan theories he spent nearly half a hour insultin and shitteing on.
@@wilmagregg3131 The Rise of Skywalker is hollow and all but it isn't the worst thing ever made. He preferred the Last Jedi's outcome with Rey and stated that explicitly.
@@uhhowen8 exactly
@@wilmagregg3131 you are lying, he did mention it and he said he didn't like it, but also said he enjoyed the movie despite thinking it lacked in many areas
I think this is _objectively_ the absolute worst video you've covered
_...in my opinion._
genuinely objectively
@@Superschokokeks subjectively objective
I don't know that moviebob vid made me retarded
WHAT?!?!?!?!?!
According to reader response theory
I rewatched the canto bight scene, and Rose and Finn are terrible people. They ride those poor animals into heavy objects, through walls, and more. They abused those animals, broke their legs, left internal injuries. It was horrible to watch. Any animal lover should be aghast.
I guess you could tell them to "STOP ENJOYING THIS! STOP ENJOYING THIS!"
Nah disney were the terrible people, canto bight was filmed in dubrovnik and for a month the whole old town was blocked off and noone was allowed in (in comparison game of thrones only blocks off streets) that scene is not only crap in the movie but disney treated the croatians who lived there like shit.
Croatian lives matter, Rian Johnson!
That's an excellent point. My dog would go nuts in a casino full of noise & lights.
All while leaving the slave kids in captivity.
Backwards logic in this film.
The theme of the Last Jedi is to do nothing. Seriously!
If Luke didn’t check on Ben Solo, then Ben wouldn’t be Kylo Ren
Snoke worked really hard to make the First Order, but he’s the bad guy for it. He’s also pointless
Holdo did nothing, then died, and she is a hero
Poe tried to take action and that was a mistake
Finn tried to take action by crashing into the laser and Rose had to save him
Rose and Finn went on a mission that they shouldn’t have gone on. They should’ve waited with Holdo
Leia advocates Poe to stop acting, and he is demoted for doing stuff
Rey does nothing really but she is extremely powerful
Chewbacca does nothing at all except fly the Millennium Falcon for Rey
Yoda doesn’t act until Luke tries to burn the jedi temple, in which he effortless destroys it so Luke can continue to do nothing.
Luke tries to fight, but does technically nothing by just sitting on a rock. Since this is hypothetically an action to take, he dies from the effort
These are themes that will last beyond our own lifetime. This movie is a masterpiece!
AND WHO THE FUCK WAS SNOKE
@@Dgero who cares apparently
He was probably a ghoul
Don't do things: a star wars story
All hail the Magic Conch.
I laughed my ass off at “who cares if he started a mutiny, it didn’t go anywhere.”
Dude, if a super important plot driven moment leads to absolutely nothing, that isn’t a good thing.
I don't think it's necessarily bad. Isn't that badically what red herrings are? Those have an out of universe purpose i suppose, but within a movie having a seemingly important plot be unimportant can be done well is my point. TLJ eid not do it well obviously.
@@theraven268let's underline and emphasize that last thing you said. The Last Jedi did not write their poe mutiny plot point very well at all.
What really pisses me off is that, by "killing" the expanded universe, they denied the new trilogy from having SO MUCH MORE material to bring and support this message of "ending the jedi monopoly over the force". When in first watched the trailer and heard Luke to say "The Jedi need to end" I first thought that he would later mention the existence of other organizations aside from the Jedi and the Sith that use the force: the Aing'tii monks, the Baran Do, the matukai and Alpheridies, the Kro Var, the Black Guard and even the witches from Dathomir. But NOOOO, let's just END the old canon and start a new one, smaller, dumber and just...dead, canon. Fuck you, Disney!
this lee guy might be smuggest person i've ever heard. yuck.
he hated that the cake was a lie so he's calling everything a lie
Gotta be safe with gum and if you just have to risk it, then go for the fruits instead! "Waka-waka!"
@@amanibob1416 eh
Ain't no Iron Man here, that's fo' sure!
Nah hellogreedo is the most smug person to be covered on efap.
I want them to subvert our expectations in XI by having the Millenium Falcon blow up with everyone inside, and a completely new cast of characters has to finish the trilogy.
It would likely enacted by the Porgs, then they create their new Porg Wars trilogy. Still better than Roundhead Dumbass and JJ Rehash.
No wait, get Bill Pullman to kill Kylo Ren and Mel Brooks to do a voice part, we can tie it into Spaceballs and finally make Spaceballs 2: The Searchfor more Money! Too bad John Candy's dead, I guess they could do a CGI John Candy and piss us off some more.
@@goufr3540 the porgs would turn out to be behind the first order and the true villains of the galaxy
The silly part with that is that now, according to the Solo movie, the Falcon is ALSO an actual sentient being. And it used to have sex with Lando on the regular...so that's cool.....
The part where he defends the leia poppins scene is hilarious
I saw a great gif that would've made greater sense & impact that started with her flying in space and cut to the zoom when holdo smashed into the star destroyer. Why did a rando have a better idea than rian johnson?
At What minute in the video does he talk about that scene?
@@sadywootten7668 That's leia shooting stars mah boi.
I’M MARY POPPINS, Y’ALL!
The only way I'd be shocked is if she's the daughter of Starkiller.
Here is how you know you can't take this guy seriously. I've listened to half of his SW8 video and by the hope he places on it, he should logically hate SW9, seeing as Abrams and Johnson completely disagreed on every subject in this story. Nope. Lee likes SW9, too. He concedes that he needed to watch it three times to love it, but he calls it just as amazing as SW8.
... That's just not possible. You can't fight this hard supporting Rey being "the child of nobodies" and then turn around and enjoy her being Palpatine's granddaughter. You can't hope this hard that Ray and Finn will inspire a new generation of force users and rebels, and then when that doesn't happen, not be disappointed. You can't wish for Star Wars to be new and different and then have this trilogy end fighting Palpatine and not be dismayed.
Mahler needs to react to his SW9 review.
It is just as amazing, though since sw8 was crap and by no means amazing, Sw9 is on the same level
Sometimes people give most unpopular takes just to stand out. Trying to be infamous will get clicks on youtube.
He also likes TLOU2 and has a weird fetish for Abby. He also thinks The Witcher 3 is garbage.
@@TheoTungsten Mother of God...
"Why Cannibalism is Underrated" and "Top 10 Reasons Why Daisy Ridley Should Date Me"? God do I hope that this Lee guy is on some sort of list and is being watched at all times.
DiZ Maybe those two are related
I refuse to believe this guy is anything but a satire character that people are falling for. I just refuse to believe someone like this really exists.
@@justincider8892 With the way the world's been, I don't think it would surprise me either way.
I really can’t relate with an orphan that wanted famous parents while also being perfect
I also can't relate to someone who grew up fending for herself on a desert planet, yet is also nice to everyone and is motivated solely by doing the right thing. Much like with Finn, Rey's backstory is at a HUGE disconnect with the characterization, and I'm just not able to latch onto her as a real person.
@@SolarDragon007
_Thank you_ for bringing up Finn's characterization as well.
Why the hell isn't there a tiny bit more humanity shown in the First Order? We have kids who were taken by effectively what amounts to Space Wizard Cult, and made to participate in massacres or be shot for insubordination.
Finn had friends in the First Order. One of them died in his arms. But as soon as he becomes a turncoat, he's blasting away happily at his former squadmates.
*"DID YOU SEE THAT!?* *_DID YOU SEE THAT!?"_*
We're shown that he's not an exception to troopers with no free will. Others think for themselves. ("Traitor!" Sounded like real anger from that faceless mook.)
So that at least gives him some ground in not being a borderline lobotomized human droid, but I find it difficult to believe that he'd be the "Quirky comic relief goofball boi" So soon after escaping from the only thing he's ever known after witnessing one of his friends and dozens of innocent people die, along with his new friend presumed KIA in his eyes for most of the movie.
Nope, he gets starry-eyed for a random girl he meets (and tries to defend her from some thugs, despite probably being raised to see rats in the dust like her as below him) and they go off on an adventure together.
He has _no_ qualms with working with Han Solo. Instead of saying "Wasn't he a war hero?" He should have been the one pointing out that he's a scummy smuggler, considering he would have been raised to see him, the Alliance, and The Jedi as evil.
Sure, he'd get over it. But it'd take time. Spouting hateful rhetoric, then correcting himself.
"We're going to be _working with-!?"_
*Dirty look from Rey*
"...Sorry. Out of options, I know. Fine."
I _wanted_ to see a Stormtrooper character, dammit! You know, since that is what he was _advertised as?_ I didn't get one with Iden Versio either and I'm still pissed about that.
No one can!
@@eras1066 Damn, everything in your comment is exactly how I feel about Finn.
And I too am still pissed about Iden Versio. If you don't know about it already, go pick up the Inferno Squad book. It's Iden as a loyal Imperial from start to finish, and it's a fantastic book.
"Who cares?? It's not like that plotline went anywhere!"
As much as i hate TLJ, it's worth it for all the good Mauler and co content
The one saving grace. God knows I've enjoyed myslef more watching these vids than TLJ.
For this is the reason Hollywood need to make a sequel for the raiders of the lost ark.
10 hour EFAP
I like your positivity.
4:23:00 yoda jumping around is silly, yoda telekinetically using his light sabers is not??? They haven't seen that in action before, it's fucking awkward as fuck... I don't even know what's silly in it...
Plus this is why i said the people who don't like yoda jumping around or using lightsaber and want him to use the foece to fight know nothing about yoda... Yoda literally said in the OT, the force is never used for attack, only for defence... What destroys the character of yoda more than him using the force to attack??? These people don't know about star wars... I hate this idea of going into a review blind... You're just trying to shock yourselves rather than add information... These people are just stammering,trying to remember things from the prequels and even the OT... Wow... I just assumed westerners had collective brain tumor when the prequels were released and they were told to hate by plinkett using an abysmal review... He was literally making points from thin air... He only got 3 criticisms right in the phantom menace and they were nitpicks... Go watch icy the fire mage destroy his videos mauler style...
Anyone who thinks that MauLer’s channel is nothing but negativity needs to understand that the point to EFAP is to critical analyze and point out flaws in narrative construction and arguments propping up the flaws.
It’s never about saying other people are simply wrong, but it is to point out inconsistencies and issues for further discussion.
There are also quite a few moments when they agree with the video they're criticizing. They don't just shit on everything. They do agree with the points made if they're reasonable.
Plus, they must have never seen his video series on Yuka-Laylee.
Only simple minded fools would think this is all negetive
Ok so if his channel is not about negativity then why are there people in his comments are always being negative.
Let's not go saying something like that. Yeah, MauLer does a lot of negative videos, but it is not the entirety of his content. It just so happens that he feels strongly about the shortcomings of a lot of recent films. It may make up a large portion of his content, but no one is denying that, only the claim that he is entirely negative all the time
In response to Mauler at 3:53:05, The Phantom Menace did have densely packed scenes. Just by watching Qui-Gon, Padme and Jar Jar walking into Mos Eisley, or looking at the audience in the pod racing arena, or examining the underwater city of the Gungans, you'll see more creative designs and locations than all three parts of the Disney Trilogy combined. Fun fact, The Phantom Menace ALONE used more practical effects than the entire Original Trilogy put together so those who complain about too much CGI are talking out of their arses, especially since they often mistake the practical effects for CGI.
Small gripe Mos Espa is tpm Mos Eisley is anh
Whoa you outnerded him@@MrDdeded
@@debroofgreen didn’t mean to I agree with everything he said 😂
TPM had lots of practical effects AND too much CGI. Two things can be true at the same time
"I'll have you know she downloaded her powers from Kylo Ren."
"It was Kylo Ren's destiny to become evil" ~later~ "And here we have Kylo Ren deciding to be evil"
I would like a high school sophomore to dissect that guy's logic.
Destiny is well known for being optional in stories. Just ask the Greeks!
And then he became good and died 🤣
Yeah then he was like AHH I'm bad and dies just to be revived to turn good then die again. You couldn't have written it worse if you tried.
@blackrave404 Uh-uh. Wrong Skywalker. The one you were emulating is Jake Skywalker, Luke's illegitimate clone created by a dysfunctional device and faulty materials (most of which are Rian Johnson's brain semen).
I know part of why Maj0r Lee might dislike MauLer, based on the beginning tweet.
Thanks to “A Critique of Star Wars: The Last Jedi” MauLer has reached nearly 125K subscribers and has over 10 million views on his channel. Maj0r Lee has had his channel for nearly 10 years now, and he only has 20K subscribers and 1.6 million views. With his critique, MauLer gained 5 times the subscribers and 6 times the views compared to Maj0r Lee. And it was a Critique of a movie Lee likes.
Tbh, I would be bitter too if someone got that much more popular by showing that something I liked was crap.
The guy should try delivering his lines in his video without sounding like a 60 Minutes interview preview clip.
I can't imagine people who are like that considering Mauler's work is a five hour breakdown that represents at least a month or several's work.
Deep thoughts.
This applies to most of his haters, as well. They aren't trash, all of their critics are just nazis.
Did show that?? Put your money where your mouth is. I am going to thoroughly rebut each and every point Mauler makes.
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@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 How's that working out for you?
For 2 god damn years, every time I argued that TFA was bad because Rey was a Mary Sue, everyone was just like “Trust me, the next movie will explain why she’s overpowered, she’s probably Obi-Wan’s daughter. Trust me, it’ll make sense in the next movie.” And then they won’t listen to me when I say that, that’s no excuse, because the explanation should have been in TFA, and they just wouldn’t let me speak.
Now, after TLJ came out, all of those same people were like “No, it’s SO brilliant that her parents were nobodies, you CAN’T sit here and pretend like you don’t like it!” And then they ignored the rest of my criticisms.
TLJ was so awful, that it proved me right from over those two years, but it blue balled me, preventing me from rubbing it in a bunch of asshole’s faces.
@Revan One of the most textbook ideas of courage is facing up to something that frightens or has hurt you, and doing so even acknowledging that. Luke was on edge during the Death Star infiltration and assault, and Vader was clearly a villain he feared on some level and was scarred by.
Comparatively, what does Rey honestly have to fear and what does she walk into of her own volition? Almost every conflict in TFA is something she's roped into: The TiEs on Jakku, the First Order attacking Maz, Kylo kidnapping her, being cornered in the Snow Woods. TLJ meanwhile has her walk into the enemy base because she's just so damn sure Kylo will protect her (pretty baselessly given the films) and with essentially no fear or concern for her life. Even in RotJ, Luke was shaken by the Emperor's goadings and ultimately walked into the confrontation assuming they'd all be dead in the scenario he envisioned.
Meanwhile, Rey has basically nothing to fear or be intimidated by. She wins against the mooks, shoots out the Stormtroopers, and succeeds at using mythical Jedi Mind Tricks within hours of learning they exist and trying them. She hands herself to the Supremacy because she's beaten Kylo before, she has basically no reason to be afraid of him with the movie info presented (compare Finn who could be intimidated since he got soundly beaten and nearly crippled for it). Rey is like that video game character who over levels before critical boss fights but then only gets into trouble because of scripted cutscenes, the kind of scenarios fans joke (good natured or otherwise) about as segregation between gameplay and story, except this is a movie in which that disconnect shouldn't exist.
I dislike when people do that with any series. "It's okay, it gets better in book three." "They're just getting started. These first 10 episodes don't set the tone for the show. Wait until season 2." A strong competently made thing should be able to stand on it's own. It should be good without saying "well its better than x" or "its not supposed to be special because it builds up to y". It shouldnt need outside sources to "help it look good". That's like saying "Keep your hand on the stove. Eventually your nerves will burn away and the pain will stop".
William Shelton Shme became pregnant as a result of the force rebelling against Plageous and Sidious using a dark side ritual to dampen the senses of the Jedi.
@@RangerRobin0404 cough Stein's Gates cough
You should have known better than to expect reason and logic from SJWs
Rey’s parents being nobody is a distinction without a difference. Sure, her ancestry doesn’t matter… but that doesn’t show that a hero can come from anywhere. It shows us that some people are just randomly born *better* than others, for no reason. They’re more moral, more powerful.
There’s no point in working to improve, because some Rey out there was just born better than you’ll ever be. Great theme, Rian.
21:02 _She’s the granddaughter of Palpatine_
Funny how this “shit” theory, as he says, is the one that his sacred cow uses in episode IX...
Please, for the sake of the success of this series, have Overlord DVD on more. His mini rants are legendary and he is so verbose when he does it. It's almost like poetry.
He was a bit loud alright but I liked him
But does it rhyme?
He's got a great voice for it, too. So I was disappointed to check out his channel and find that he alters it.
@@MetaKaios That's his inside (mask) voice.
"Luke's decision to leave the Resistance to die was perfect because it led to the scene of Rey lifting boulders."
- The Quarry King
Do you remember when Obi-Wan made Anakin kill his mother because having no attachments means murdering your family? No? Well that's just your opinion...
But did Obi -Wan not kill his Mother through inactivity? They knew where she was and they knew what kinda live a SLAVE on Tattoine lives. Obi and Anakin did nothing until she died. I think you could make a case, that this falls under "having a weird stance on attachment"
@@mittelz5976 I agree. Why the fuck didn't bring her with him later, when he was already kind of good as a jedi?
If the Jedi didn't let him, I would've wanted to see a scene about it.
MittelZ bc in The Phantom Menace Anakin and Shmi tell Qui Gon, Padme, and Jar Jar that all slaves have a microscopic bomb embedded in them and if they escape they’ll get blown up. Anakin had to be freed on conditions. Shmi didn’t just stay bc she wanted to.
@@stupendous7848
To be fair, he could have freed his mother as well. They have the resources, and if they really wanted to have a not-fucked-up apprentice, they should have.
But oh well, they didn't, and the events played out how they did.
@@stupendous7848 couldnt a jedi just mind controll the slaver and get him to defuse the bomb?
I love how broom kid had nothing to do with anything.
I like to think he got utterly battered by his master due to Rose screwing everything up with the animals.
I like to think it went something like “Oh, so you think you’re funny letting all the animals go!? Y’know what!? Duck it! We’re eating you and all your little friends now, now get to the kitchen!”
Imagine if TFA was your first Star Wars movie. How would you comprehend Rey? Luke learned about the force, started to believe it, and was able to achieve this small, but somewhat miraculous feat by the end of a new hope. Rey literally didn't believe in the force, but she still starts out with a whole suite of force powers. When Obi wan uses the Jedi mind trick, it's really clear that he's a well-trained and old wizard using a mysterious power. When Rey does it, it's just time so matter-of-factly. You would have to be so confused if you as a viewer didn't see Obi-wan do it first.
especially since the existence of the mind trick isn't mentioned in TFA, she can only get away with it thanks to an earlier movie setting it up. If TFA had been the first star wars movie people would have called bullshit on the mind trick immediately
That first guy has to be a parody right? He is exactly how I imagined a parody TLJ fanboy to be.
Solardragon007 FUCKING WHAT?!?!? What is he a character?!? T thats like what i make for a hatable character
I wasn't certain at first, but then he started shit-talking Silent Bob over his opinion of Star Wars. Not that I'm offended on his behalf or anything, but somebody trying to really make a point would consider how that looked and passed on that.
You want to change people's opinions on a movie then don't insult them in the title
Insulting your viewers will make them disagree with you more if anything
Cinemtic venom: hmmmm this commebt meand nothing. FOR NOUGH REASON
@Nate Gates thats the point but. Yeah. Sadly most youtubers will go down insulting. Even me(though i don’t actually make those vids) like thats why i foundanti sjws unhelpful. No one would listen to you insult them(i get that theor idiots but if we dont try to be calm woth them their just gonna yell louder)
Is this is the power of Patrick Willems's Stand?
"Through the power of「Don't Stop Believin'」, I can deflect any and all criticism that I personally see as subjective."
“I am the progenitor of everything right and you are all wrong! Always!”
REMEMBER STAR WARS?
>MauLer, Rags, and Wolf doing the torture dance as Patrick Willems’ detached-but-living Head is hanging nearby
This must be the work of an enemy stand!
I always took the Syndrome quote to be the epitome of objectivism, in that if we treat everybody, regardless of competence, as if they are worth as much as someone who is objectively more competent, then we are truly saying that nobody is truly worth anything. It always felt like a family friendly, super hero "Atlas Shrugged".
Every sentence that comes out of doomcock’s mouth is an absolute banger
He's a funny guy
He’s clickbait trash
He's fucking annoying. Sounds like he's written a script for this video, so it's like he's barely part of the actual conversation
Well he did write them in advance lol.
Only realized on my third pass myself
@@SgtKOnyx that makes sense actually xd
Do you know what I absolutely hate about avid The Last Jedi defenders? Nearly all of them reference that stupid "let the past die, kill it if you have to" scene in the movie, but then go on to praise a scene that they say is a better version of another scene from the original trilogy.
That's not exactly "killing the past," now is it? If anything, the past is the only reason why that "new" scene even exists, because they stole it.
Edit: Do you know what else I hate about these Last Jedi defenders? They keep linking the Jedi with general force users, as if they think that if the Jedi are wiped out, all force users in the universe will be wiped out, which is stupid to think because the Sith will still exist. What are the Sith? They're evil force users. Whether the Sith or the Jedi die doesn't matter, because force users will always exist. If the Jedi and Sith's "ancient religion" dies, then another force will take it's place. Whether it is religious, political, or social, so long as there is one group opposing the other, then war is inevitable, and you can damn well be sure that the Jedi and the Sith will be a part of it.
I'm sure that after the Battle of Russan, legends, there were still wars. And I'm sure that the Sith had little to no involvement in some of them. Speaking of Legends Thrawn wasn't a Force user but he still waged war on the new Republic.
Alex Kennard
“I agree with the thing Kylo said about letting the past die, you Star Wars fans could learn a lot from him.”
“Oh man, you hypersensitive Star Wars fans are just like Kylo Rey, with obsessing over everything to the point of insanity, he’s clearly a parody of you.”
''Milk the past, copy it if you have to''
Uh ... Kylo says to kill the past. Now some TLJ people may mistakenly cite this. But I think Rian is clear Kylo says this and we shouldn't trust everything Kylo says. As for sometimes TLJ being better than the "original" scene - I think this is "objectively" true. The throneroom fight was epic. The one in ROTJ was dumb and made no sense. Also you do know it is widely acknowledge ROTJ essentially is a remake of the 1977 film so Lucas was already trying to "improve" on the originals before Disney.
Chan Thorpe What are you talking about the throne room fight in TLJ has some god awful choreography. Power rangers looks more convincing
"Joseph Gordong Levitt wrote a 2000 letter essay..."
Mark Hammil hated the direction they took Luke in. Yeah, let's see who is more relevant to the conversation.
Plus I’ve seen Don Juan. I think I trust someone without any writing credits to know good from bad writing more than Joseph Gordon Levitt.
@ Oh yeah, whip out that Tweet Mark was made to post and ignore the words he spoke with his own lips, I see how that is.
Question: how did canto bight get away with selling weapons to the first order? Wouldn’t that be like at the end of WWI some company is selling weapons to Germany and Britain? Wouldn’t this be super illegal and be something the Republic should know about?
Where is my world building?
Maybe J.J. had some ideas. We will never know because he needs to keep face for the company. Otherwise he will never make another Star Wars movie again. At least not with Lucasfilm/Disney behind him.
The new republic seems pretty stupid and invited the first order almost.
The galaxy is greedy, rich and too big for us. Perhaps Snoke will do a better job ruling our people. 😉
I don't blame everything on Rian Johnson. Chuck Wendig's set up in the Aftermath books was not the best as well. In Legend it took 20 years and in the new canon it takes 2 years before the Empire is totally defeted.
Books don't count, of course.
I'd like too see a screenwriter called Timothy Zahn for any SW movie/tv-show in the future.
His new Thrawn book blew me away after the first pages.
Where is James Luceno by the way?
I never tried before to compare real life history and some sci-fi fantasty story.
Of course, it is very bad. War is not a nice and sweet thing.
Lucasfilm try, try again. 🤔🙄
The only assumption to be made is the New Republic is incompetent and paid no attention to the criminal underworld or the fall of the new Jedi Temple. They didn't bother to reinforce the Resistance after they got to Crait either. Somehow, the Empire was a better, more stable regime than the New Republic, proving Palpatine was right to control the galaxy.
*sigh* When The Phantom Menace makes more sense than the sequel trilogy...
There is no worldbuilding in the Sequel Trilogy. Don't even expect hack frauds from nuLucasArt to give you one.
I think the republic was run by the force ghost of Neville Chamberlain.
I don’t know why the production of military equipment is left completely up to some party independent from the first order and the new republic. It seems like they would have either started producing their own weapons or just taken over the factories supplying weapons already.
The real lesson to learn from Rey's origin: Some people are just born explicitly better than everyone else and they will always be better than them.
Problem is that The Force isn't just magic powers.
It's an energy that goes through all things and has a mind of it's own.
She has vegan powers like Todd
Except for the sky-walkers 😇
Luke saw much dark, but a hint of good in his father and he was willing to lay down his blade to treat with him. New Luke sees good but a hint of dark in his nephew and tried to murder him in his sleep. Makes sense.
according to the tlj defenders kylos darkness was as strong maybe even stronger than vaders and it wasn't just a hint. i don't believe that at all though because i don't even believe that kylo in the present is as dark as vader was, why would i believe he was in the past.
the line "i get to look at women" is the single most dumbest response and most memeable thing that he said lmao.
It's now a regular part of the EFAP line of memes. Pretty good.
*MOST DUMBEST HAHAHA*
This man wild
It's like something Zapp Brannigan would say
"Did you like The Last Jedi, Kif?"
"No, sir"
"But there's women on screen! What are you? Gay?"
The only woman in those movies that looked decent was Daisy Ridley (and she's probably a 5-6)
Lee is probably the worst Last Jedi apologist I’ve ever seen hands down.
Amen. This was absurd!
The fucks an apologist, sounds more like your constantly saying sorry for liking it not insulting others
Shut up and look at the women! 😲
Dimitri Koukoulas
1) apologist is someone who will defend something from any criticism no matter how valid
2) you don’t have to apologize for liking it, just stop denying there are good criticisms of it. Stop crying that people don’t like something you do
The Lax worse than Patrick?
This guy must love Indiana Jones 4. It was unexpected, it took risks, the wildlife served a dramatic purpose...
It does all those wild aliens inside the aztec tempel, just gorgeous.
It's always a risk to make a garbage movie.
I think that something else stupid about "they sell to the rebels and the empire uwu" is that, in universe, the companies that make TIE fighters and X-Wings are different. (TIEs are built by Sienar Fleet Systems and X-wings are built by Incom) so nobody who is selling X-wings is also selling TIE fighters, unless they're dealing in second-hand fighter craft, in which case they're probably not selling to either of the big factions because those would probably be buying brand new ships or, in the case of the First Order, making their own with their GIANT FACTORY SHIP.
This is so much more fun to watch post E IX, knowing now that Rey is not a "nobody" after all. Wonder how our reviewer felt about Episode IX, and learning he was wrong all along.
One of the biggest problems with Luke in Last Jedi is that he blames the Jedi for a mistake that HE made in opposition to what he was taught. Yoda was trying to teach Luke NOT to act impulsively based on premonition in Empire Strikes Back, so for Luke to lose faith in the Jedi over what he did is absurd. Luke considering killing Kylo was entirely on him, NOT the beliefs of the Jedi. If anything, Luke should feel like he isn't worthy to be a Jedi and that he failed those that came before him. Then again, considering how simplistic and childish his criticism of the Prequel-era Jedi was, I think it's likely that Luke was just looking for an excuse to be a coward rather than actually analyzing the Jedi in a meaningful way.
Logic ''So you've been feeling drawn to the dark side? Ok, I think you are old enough for the Skywalker 'talk', my boy''.
Rian Johnson ''...and then Luke whips out his laser sword to kill his underage nephew, who he's been watching sleeping several times''
Luke ''Why would the Jedi Order do this?''
@Super JLK NO! In Attack of the Clone, Yoda offensively throws a light saber at enemies. Granted, they are facing mainly robots. But the Jedi do kill - Mace re Jango. The Jedi didn't forget. Lucas just threw out canon and now the Jedi kill first negating the OT.
@Super JLK No. There tons of those fly creatures and other organic beings with the Trade Federation. Admittedly, they were being shot at but Yoda clearly said Jedi NEVER attack and only DEFENSIVELY use violence. In Attack they are clearly doing on the offense
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891
_"Protection_ and defense. Never for attack."
You realize the Trade Federation had two Jedi and a Galactic Senator tied up and about to be killed by wild animals when the Jedi arrived to _protect_ them.
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 By your logic, A New Hope negates the OT since we're explicitly told that Obi-Wan was a GENERAL in the Clone Wars, and that he and Luke's father fought together. It is true that Yoda believed a Jedi should only use violence defensively, but that just isn't practical when you're in a war. The Prequels touch on the idea of the Jedi being pressed into a more militant role despite it going against their core philosophy, though I would agree that it isn't nearly explored as much as it could've been.
Me and a friend discussed TLJ about a month before the premiere and we discussed Rey's parents being nobodies, as a worst case scenario. We agreed it would be one of the worst, but possibe ideas.
So I guess TLJ is predictable.
but what about the DEEPLY LAYERED DRAMATIC THEMES ?
Yeah the themes what about these deep themes about non skuwalker? Btw I hate Last jedi
You must be really happy now
Like, even HISHE dunked on this film, and they didn’t even go that hard.
They simply said “Hey, remember when Kylo made the force keep laser blasts in mid-air in the last film? Why can’t Luke do that, but better, since he’s clearly more experienced? And that would be the awsome, logical, COOL scene to end TLJ on.
Spencer Whiteway And their ackbar “it’s a trap” change instead of commander gender studies death run was the best part
Oddly the guys behind HISHE stated they really liked the film. Guess they either put their opinions aside to get more views or they liked it in spite of their greviences
Kyle Campbell That last part might be the case, you can still like something but see the errors in it. Massive or not.
Looking at this after Rise of Skywalker makes it all the funnier given that while Major Lee complained about the various theories about Rays heritage, one of them is that she's Emperor Palpatine's granddaughter.
So much for all that patting himself on the back. 😂
I love how this guy makes fun of somebody for liking Kylo's mask but argues that the heart of Star Wars are explosions and pretty colors. Unbelievable.
There is no way this guy is not a troll. Like a literal troll who loves under a bridge and steals goats from farmers...
Bridge trolls are actually useful members of society, making sure that tolls are collected, repairing the bridge, taking care of unsavoury elements, enforcing a healthy curfew and instilling the good habit of traveling in groups in people...
Gotta love how "Fantheories bad. If you predict it bad. Stop theorising!" keeps going to THE SLAVE KIDS ARE THE NEW RESISTANCE.
With literally nothing but his headcanon for that.
It's far from the only hypocrisy but he pointed it out SO much I wonder if he even realises that there's nothing in the movie that even remotely colaborates that theory.
(And his fantheories get weirder and weirder and weirder as the vid goes on)
IF The sequels were a well-constructed story, Finn would have slowly developed more rebel stormtroopers over the three movies and that could have been the base of his subplot's "everyone has the power to change the world" theme.
As it is... They spend one movie introducing a rebel Stormtrooper. The second having him go off on a random pointless mission that vaguely alludes to the idea that anyone could be force sensitive without committing to it and having a conclusion. And then a third movie that instantaneously connects him with rebel Stormtroopers with absolutely no buildup, something he didn't earn. What an absolute waste of a character.
@@Cityweaver No disagreements there. He wasn't the only wasted char though either :(
Katherine Lott they should’ve let him die in TLJ.. if only they had balls
He also gets off to the reylo fan theories and claims that they're real and true and that it's a key part of rey and kylos story.
@@joeyn985 post rise of skywalker his video is even more insulting turns out those "stupid theories" from the fans were right because JJ thought "wow rian this is shitte storywise youve left me with" the ONLY thing this arrogant douchcanoe got right was his reylo theories.
I've been waiting a long time for you guys to cover this video. There are a lot of videos defending The Last Jedi but none of them are quite as contentious as this one.
Someone genuinely sent me this video insisting it will change my mind but I must promise to watch it all. I watched it all and it was hilariously bad.
He literally does not make a single point the entire time. Just keeps calling it "amazing"
Robert Boucher Jr. that's not true. he also spends a portion of it criticising people who didn't like the film. that means the film is good after all somehow.
@@tobytombs8815 Crticize is a stretch. Id say insult, demean, belittle, "roast". Criticize would mean he had to think for more than 2 minutes.
I checked his IMDB page and it seems "Major" Lee Lustig mostly works in the editorial department on reality tv shows. So, I guess it makes sense that he wouldn't know quality if it sucked his nuts dry.
Wait, so can't the argument of "You didn't like it cause it went against what you expected" be turned against him to. "You only liked it cause its something you wanted to happen."
"We had good guys fighting each other for a change!"
Obi wan and Anakin: "are we a joke to you?"
The guy they are responding to is Quinton with a voice changer. Search your hearts, you know it to be true.
"Hodor?"
The third time I watched this stream I wasn’t bored...
@The Lax The third time I read your comment I wasn't bored...
The Lax you deserved like a thousand likes tbh
Anakins line about sand has been ridiculed to hell and back but he is actually totally justified. if you have not experienced African desert sand on your skin you have no frame of reference. having it blown onto your skin with any kind of force is like getting grinded and YES that sand is so fine it absolutely gets EVERYWHERE. not to mention that sand storms would be a serious lethal threat for any life on a desert planet.
Well the thing is Anakin is right about the sand, it is irritating, its just the scene the scene in episode 2 that's very very cringe
yeah just as could be expected from a teeny romance ;)
@@fl4shblade who wants a teeny romance in star wars tho? Like maybe in a novel or something but keep that cringe out of the movies
not quite the point but let's talk about it. the romance is necessary to set up Luke's and Leia's origin and if that was outsourced into a book people would have rightfully criticized the films for Anakin's relationship with Padme coming out of left field. AOTC spend too much time with it though and of course it could have been done a lot better. On the other hand Han and Leia is hardly a masterfully crafted romance plot in the OT either, but it is more focused and shorter overall which is undoubtedly in its favor
fl4shblade
It was a very poorly written romance, for something so necessary.
Rey's parents were already nobody in TFA. It makes no sense that Rey was affected by the "they're nobody" reveal in TLJ. Mauler said it himself in the critique series, even if they were new characters not previously famous, they still were Rey's parents, two individuals with personality that Rey would want to get to know. WHY IN THE FUCK WAS SHE SAD THAT THEY WEREN'T SOMEONE FAMOUS?!?!??! The reveal only makes sense outside of the movie, it's a middle finger to the audience, it's terrible writing that doesn't care about what the characters would act like in-universe. Rian wrote a shitty fan-fiction.
Francisco Rendón
Agreed
What Kylo meant by “nobodies” is that they didn’t care about her. Rey didn’t care about bloodlines, she just wanted to know that her parents loved her and there was a reason for them leaving her. When Kylo told her the truth she was devastated because out of all the possible outcomes, the one thing she couldn’t stand to hear was the fact that they didn’t care about her
@@xxraddude3621 Well... It seems they cared for her very much, so much that they died for her...
I *Splat* gotta agree with you on this, ROS was asinine
Predictably great storoes >>>>>>>> suberverse crwp made to piss off fans
Has this dude ever seen star wars?
Yoda was not from a big well known family. Mace Windo. Along with others going by the movies as far as we know.
They had countless jedi and sith in the old expanded eu that fell into this theme.
Yeah they still needed training to become who they are.
They were just not handed the gifts like Rey was.
The idea anyone could possibly train to become a jedi or sith was already there.
Yes anyone could with enough training.
@Revan Luke was the son of a powerful Jedi even in ANH.
It's a common talking point among TLJ defenders that leads me to believe that many of them have no understanding of Star Wars.
@@SolarDragon007 The whole idea is a strawman fallacy. It's something that they say another person has just to easily knock it down. The real argument is more of why Rey is so powerful she doesn't need any teammates, always has the convenient skill for the situation, never has any challenging or at least elusive villain, and shows none of the team chemistry the original films had because they just give Rey all the skills. The entire strawman of Rey is just some random person is merely avoiding talking about all of the legit criticisms I just mentioned.
@Revan I heard this argument from Honest Trailers, it's pretty much saying that Star Wars should no longer focus on the Skywalker and Solo family.
@@SolarDragon007 NO! They retconned Vaderr in Empire he was a nobody in 1977.
Maj0r Lee predicted that Rey's parents will be nobodies.
The Last Jedi revealed that Rey's parents were nobodies.
Pfft, how predictable. Rian Johnson is such a hack!
Thor Skywalker also predicted this as well, and he is for sure not a shill.
Zaku Htet now her granddaddy is fucking emperor palpatine.
@@harlannguyen4048 Right? I love Thor Skywalker, and not just because of his awesome avatar image.
So Luke trying to kill Kylo Ren is him following the Jedi teachings to the letter, which is supposed to be in-character for him, despite the fact that he knows that the only reason why the universe was saved to begin with was because he went against said teachings to redeem his father from the dark path he took?
I'm sorry, and I don't mean to be disrespectful, but is this guy high? He has to be, right? If he isn't, then he must be a massive troll.
Last Jedi fans really have to jump through hoops to explain the sparing Vader but wanting to kill Kylo plot hole. I had an argument with someone about it and he said, he just didn't kill Vader because he'd be doing the Emperor's work. THE EMPEROR WANTED HIM TO TURN TO THE DARKSIDE DUMBASS! Did you not watch the fucking movie
I have no other choice, but to declare the vast majority of Last Jedi Fans are people who grew up with the prequels appreciated the action, but couldn't like them enough because the bad acting and boring cringy romance segments and have only watched the Originals once or twice and can't get into them because they're dated. Can't say 100% of them fall into this category, but it feels like the only way you can like these high budgeted, but story/character dumpster fires is if this is how you've seen Star Wars prior to the Disney series
Watch Jenny Nicholson vid. She actually arguments that Luke is a sociapath all along, but he couldn't beat Vader, so he tried turning him instead cause that's the way to beat Vader. If he could beat him, obviously he would have murdered him (kinda contradicts their battle in VI, but never said these TLJ defenders are the brightest). Of course since Kylo is weaker, it was TOTALLY in character for Luke to murder him in his sleep like the Sociopath he is.
I mean... seriously, WHAT Original Saga trilogy did these people watch to come to these insane conclusions?
@@hassathunter2464 let me get this straight. Jenny thinks that Luke, a man who mourned the death of his family, who went out of his way to save his friend and sister from Jabba the Hut, who destroyed a planet destroying weapon to save the galaxy, if not the entire universe, and who explicitly told Yoda that he didn't want to kill Darth Vader because he could still see the light inside of him, thinks he is a Sociopath?
I'm sorry, but what in the ever loving fuck is she talking about? How is any of that sociopathic? Seriously, did these people watch a different Star Wars, like some horrid Chinese knock-off or something?
@@alexkennard2422 Yup, she tries to paint him off as someone who is a murderer who'll try anything in his repertoire to go and murder the person opposing him. *Obviously* he tried to do the murder-by-emperor route in ROTJ so him murdering his nephew in cold blood is totally in character of this wicked evil person from the OT.
It's not even the only take that makes you question just exactly what Star Wars movies did she watch.
"Yeah, actually fighting wouldn't be what the good guy does. Killing in his sleep, yeah, that's good guy stuff" (paraphrasing but she literally said that).
@@hassathunter2464 I can just imagine George Lucas watching that and saying. "What the fuck?"
"I get chills when people jangle keys in front of my face and play the Star Wars theme on their phone."
-Ma0r Lee
I love watching this in a post episode 9 era... every single argument made null and void. Beautiful.
1:56:00 The thing about Goblin Slayer is that it is a hard M-rated dark fantasy story about the reality of a D&D like setting where there are Always Chaotic Evil creatures like goblins running around, that can completely fuck up (more often than not quite literally) entire villages and small towns, but the "adventurers" don't really do anything about them, because killing goblins doesn't bring them the same fame and fortune as slaying dragons. In other words, it's a crapsack world where the ones without power are ravaged by monsters, and the ones with power do not care, because they consider doing so beneath them, leading to a cycle of suffering.
Now, the real reason why it got infamous is because Crunchyroll fucked up big time, presuming that it was just another cutesy saccharine Isekai based on the art direction, and then gave it a TV-PG rating, advertising it alongside said fluffy isekai stories. To say that the whiplash was intense once the decoy-protagonists were murdered and raped by goblins would be a bit of an understatement.
Oh yes some of the videos about it were classic. As in i do believe some failed to understand what supernatural evil is or have no idea what dungeons and dragons is.
That showing bad guys to be bad. Somehow hypersexually a moment that could be missed if you bloody blink. As in people have moment that famous moment out to be all drooling with tongues out. Eyes looking happy and bright. Enjoying it and asking for more. When in reality the show tells a different story, as in dread, crying out of fear and pain. Suffering. Making it out to be a very bad thing. With Goblin Slayer punishing the creatures for their evil deeds. Oh yeah and mother's basement one issue he took with it. Is some people might get off to it and that is why it's bad as a moment in the show.
Even someone talking about how goblins are like jews. I am not even joking. ua-cam.com/video/WCwCOMJBJR0/v-deo.html
@@forestelfranger aw padanetic romantic if I remember correctly he claimed anime have a sexual harrasement problem and speaking of padantic romantic before he got rid of the goblin slayer video he actually disabled the comments and after his claim on that video im surprised his sexual harrasement video wasn't downvoated to oblivion
Don't the golbins come from a fucking moon full of fuckers with somehow human bones powering some machines?
Yeah,I've play D&D usually there is a reason monsters come up rather then "Poof we need a monster" usually connected to a long term plot..
Does,every evil being have a moon full of them or just the buttseck goblins?
If It is like D&D exp and gold would be about the same no matter what you kill..Why is no one garbing these kids and saying "The goblins like the rape everyones buttholes..don't go in there"
I mean for a D&D setting It runs on MMO logic.
When he mentioned the movie with the samurai with the thousand year war, I just imagined a couple of samurai playing chess talking about the war, and various moves represent turning points in the war and trigger flashbacks of said moments. I think that'd be pretty cool.
When a throwaway joke becomes the idea for a better movie than The Last Jedi.
It does seem cool
Clever Comment I’d watch it....
It does sound really cool actually.
Wasn't there a movie about a knight playing a game of chess with death over his soul?
*Major's voice*
"Don't you guys get it? Rey's parents are the force, the dark and the light. Hence, no bodies. Gahh!"
*Hugs Rian Johnson body pillow*
That would actually make a modicum of sense. But it's definitely not what Rian Johnson was going for.
@@TheNthMouse subvert expectations
@@cheeseburgersuperior1874 Subvert Rian Johnson's expectations
*Major’s voice turns to Plinkett’s:*
“I’M CUMMMMMMMING OHHHHHHH NOOOOOO!”
If Snoke could send force visions to Luke to convince him that Ben was turning to the dark side, why did he need the McMuffin to find him on the hidden planet? Wouldn't he be able to find him already through the force?
These TLJ apologist videos age so well over time. Now that we know the leaks and what is probably going to happen to Rey's heritage this is just pure gold xD
I would call this a case of self-justification and The Last Jedi was merely a stepping stone for it. He basically says it himself: he liked the movie just because it pissed people off. That's something he can use to stand out and make himself out to be more important than he really is. I suspect it comes from a deep-seeded insecurity. His video's title may be "The Last Jedi is amazing and you're all insane." But, what he really means is: "I am amazing and you're all insane." That's what I get out of it, anyway. Based on the evidence presented, that's what I'm guessing. When it was asked, "Who's this guy trying to convince?" I think the answer is "Himself."
100%. I think many sequel defenders (like many SJWs) couldn't care less about the movie. This is just an opportunity for them to virtue signal their moral superiority (or their superior artistic knowledge), get glowing praise from the mainstream media/creators, and call all their critics bigots without ever having to justify, defend, or argue anything.
Accomplishment and praise for zero effort type thing... just pretend you like and care about a movie.
Reminds me of these comic defenders who *dont even read comics* and games "journalists" that barely play games.
It's just to get their social dopamine hit.
This guy makes Patrick Willem’s and Quintons takes on TLJ look godly.
27:41
Ryan Johnson: "And Rey did it without your precious gifts, your oh-so-special Luke. I'll give them heroics. I'll give them the most spectacular heroics anyone's ever seen! And when I'm old and I've had my fun, I'll give the Force to everyone so that everyone can be Force users. *Everyone* can be Jedi! And when everyone's Jedi... *no one* will be."
Ummmm did you see SW 1977. Obi says just that. Anyone can be a Jedi because the force is in all living things. ITS RIGHT THERE!!
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891
The force flows through all things, but that doesn't mean any living being can use it the way Jedi do.
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 Uh, just because a great cook can come from anywhere doesn't meant that literally EVERYONE can be a great cook.
@@sirquaffler542 LOL I'd really like to know where people get this training nonsense or why it matters. Did Superman "train" to be Superman? No. He just is - doesn't make him a bad character.
The force like Jedi are just myths so saying they have rules, etc is absurd. I know Mauler needs to lie to his fanboys to make cash but he's still a complete hack and doesn't know SW. But hey gotta make money you know.
@@darkthorpocomicknight7891 We get this "training nonsense" because it completely breaks our suspension of disbelief. I can accept Superman being the way he is because it is reasonable to deduce that there is a significant amount of time after he is first made aware of his powers where he trains and practices his powers to become a superhero.
We don't get that with Rey. Within a matter of days - yes, days - she goes from being completely unaware of her abilities to mind-controlling people, beating a well-trained and highly-skilled Dark Side user in lightsaber combat, nailing several storm troopers from hundreds of feet away with a pistol she had no idea how to use beforehand, pulling off incredibly hard aerial maneuvers with a ship she had never used before, triple-shotting TIE fighters the first time she fires a cannon from that same ship - do I need to go on? That is all ABSURD. It's obvious to anyone with eyes that she's a Mary Sue.
This aged SO great EVERYTHING that guy predicted and claimed turned out wrong
"The movie is great because is not predictable, except I predicted who Rey's parents are because I'm brilliant"
44:00
If we assume that within the world of Star Wars, being force sensitive is simply another character trait that someone can possess, like being good with a blaster, being a skilled swordsman, wielding influence, being strong willed, etc. Then what Major Lee is advocating for is that all characters should adopt the same trait.
This is immediately comparable to saying "every character in Star Wars should have father issues" or "Every character in Star Wars should have a quick-temper", by giving every character the same character trait, the trait means nothing going forward.
This is a whole other discussion regarding what a character trait even means, but touching on it briefly, I would go so far as to say that a character trait in storytelling is only relevant if it is restricted. The fact that everybody is not the best pilot in the resistance, or the fact that everyone is not an ex-stormtrooper, means that when we encounter characters that ARE the best pilot or an ex-stormtrooper it is inherently interesting.
To cite an example, take Thor from the MCU. One of the defining characteristics about Thor is that he is an asgardian. Their culture is very different to earth, and so his outlook on things is rather different to that of Tony Stark. If every character in the MCU was also an asgardian, then the fact that Thor was an asgardian would become irrelevant as it would cease to be something which differentiates Thor from other characters.
I just go back to this quote from The Incredibles:
*And when everyone's super, no one will be.* - Syndrome
By making everyone Force-sensitive, the Force is no longer a gift you work hard to unlock and control. Now, it's just a normal part of society. That's not what the Force is established to be.
>Complain Mauler has pride
>Be the smuggest SOB on the .planet
>Make a terrible video
>???
>Weep / Profit ???
The lightsaber gave Rey visions, visions made Rey run into the forest, running into the forest led to her getting captured, her getting captured was the reason Finn helped in the attack of death star 3, Finn's inside knowledge of death star 3 is the reason they were able to destroy it. Take the lightsaber out and everything changes so how it got from Bespin to that cantina is very important.
That read like one of those old direct TV commercials. “Your cable went out, since your cable went out you drove to the bar to watch the game, since you drove to the bar to watch the game you got drunk at the bar, since you got drunk at the bar, you drove drunk, since you drive drunk you got a DUI. Don’t get a DUI, don’t get cable.”
I have lived and worked on a dairy farm all my life and have never felt the need to suckle on a cow's teat nor have I ever heard such of a thing
It's November of 2022 and reminiscencing Doomcock and EFAP team-up is all kinds of surreal.
I'm out of the loop here, did something happen between them?
@@davidcriff Not with EFAP directly, no (apart from Doomcock's schedule which famously excludes any appearance of him on Saturdays, which is the usual day EFAP gathers for their main show).
The issue is MauLer drifted fully into FNT orbit since and as you probably know - FNT and DVD burnt all the bridges between them. That includes their respective satellite content creators I'd imagine.
@@kreese-yi2nbAnd ironically, vito is on the one when Lee actually came on, and he’s even worse, especially with the news today.
@@kreese-yi2nb Nine months late, but can I ask for some clarification? I have no bloody idea what FNT or DVD means in this context...
@@Horvath_Gabor Members of Friday Night Tights and Doomcock had some sort of falling out due to them accusing Doomcock of making stuff up.
22:43 how can her parents be nobodies that sold her to get drunk.......... if we see them leaving on a spaceship?
That's the one thing that EVERYONE forgets about😂
They got drunk on space, star dust and hyperspace fuel, deathsticks are nothing compare to that.
@@AkosKovacs.Author.Musician of course............ it all makes sense now. Thank you, for enlightening me!
And then they turned INTO the spaceship!
lol. From a serious standpoint, maybe they used the spaceship to get to the place to get drunk, like, Canto Blight, I guess?
Eeeeehhhhhhh mmaaaaaayyyybbbbeeeeee?
idk
Spaceships are pretty commonplace in this universe.
@@temporaneo617 Something I just realized was that it didn't even have to be her parents. It could have been a friend of her parents selling her off, it could have been a sibling of her parents, hell it could have a kidnapper that, well, kidnapped her and sold her off. Just because she yells "come back!" or something like that, it doesn't mean that the ones in the spaceship were her parents.
According to major lee Luke doesn’t beat Rey because he’s a nice guy, then says Kylo will kick Luke’s ass but Rey has proven to be better than kylo? This guys “logic” is unbelievable.
Shoot arrow, then paint target
Kylo would beat Luke
Whilst simultaneously choke slamming vader
And drop kicking palpatine
@@lavish263team5 nice joke
Are we SURE this vid wasn't meant to be satire? This guy can't be serious.
Considering the vitriol in their video it's unlikely to be satire. obviously could be wrong but I doubt it. On a slightly more satisfying note it's brilliant how badly the Rey is nobody thing backfired and hating on all the fans throries backfired so spectacularly within the 1.25 of Major lees video.
I hope they've realised how badly they screwed up and how wrong they really were. one piece of advice he probably won't learn but really should is never go after the fans of anything because you never know when it will come back to bite you in the arse.
I love the argumentation in this video.
"It was good, yay"
And the way he destroyed arguments against it.
We should have all debates be like that.
"I didn't like this"
"I did"
So much is achieved!
I know it's late to post this, but I LOVE his point on predictability regarding Rei's parents, while showing several theories. One of them is her being Palpatine's granddaughter.
GO FIGURE!
It just suddenly dawned on me... The Cantino scene... Wasn't Finn wearing a clearly identifiable "resistance" jacket? Most of the people effected by Rose and Finns little stunt probably saw the resistance attack them, a neutral group. If they spread word to other planets about the resistance attacking defenseless people, they likely wouldn't have come to their aid at the end of the film.
Also, I doubt the "evil" rich people who developed weapons and ships for the resistance, would consider doing that again. Perhaps they would consider at the triple the cost.
The heart came before the mind, and what did it cost to most of the film? Holdo denying her crew critical information, Finn and Rose potentially aggravating the only remaining allies the resistance had left, Rey trying and failing to tempt Kylo to the lightside (leaving alive a horrible monster who will kill everyone she knows and loves), Luke's entire character rework which ruined a classic character.
But, in the end, Finn Rose Holdo and Rey caused the most issues in TLJ, I only hope Rose dies in her sleep, as so her character isn't allowed to cause any more damage. I won't be seeing episode 9 regardless.
I hope you changed your mind about seeing episode 9. It's a masterpiece in corporate stupidity. A triumph in desperate backtracking. A unforgettable comedy of errors. It genuinely is worth watching if only to see the beginning of the end of Disney Star Wars. lol
Even Jared was smarter than this
Jared is actually funny
I really wonder how many times lee got his a** kicked as a kid.
Wow......this guy is _deluded_ .
_Commenting while watching..._
It's interesting to me that Disney Star Wars has been very clear that the new rebels are "the Resistance" not "the Rebellion". They've been equally clear that the First Order is _not_ the Empire. The FO has a different symbol to visually note the difference. The Resistance, however, uses the decades-old symbol of the Rebellion. Also...why would a 9-year-old kid (a slave) even know what that symbol is or what it represents?
As a die-hard fan of the Expanded Universe novels, Disney's decision was heartbreaking, because there was a lot of good material there that could be adapted. MauLer, you say that fans of the EU were hoping for a copy and paste of some of the good elements, but imply that's not what we got. One of my many frustrations with the Disney universe is that they _have_ borrowed things from the EU, but they've bastardized those things. It was frustrating enough that Disney said they wouldn't give us any of the EU. It's so much worse to then do it anyway, but with a twist. All that does is tell us EU fans that you _could have_ given us what we wanted, but you flipped us off instead and claimed you were being "original". Liars.
I still want to know why they didn't just straight copy any of the well liked EU books. It just doesn't make sense. Don't they like money?
@@bigrabii9470 The simple cynical answer is that they didn't want to give any credit or money to the EU authors. So they tried to replace and rebrand it enough to be exclusively Disney IP.
Darwin Xavier Andddd it ended up not working that well, funny how that works huh?
"Wouldn't it be cooler if Rey wasn't related to anyone?" hits different post-RoS
This is so much funnier after Rise of Skywalker.
One of the first arguments is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. "If you predict it that is the definition of predicatable." Some people are better at figuring things out than others. Not to mention, many people came up with the theory she came from nothing thus DISPROVING HIS WHOLE STUPID POINT. This guy sure is convincing. I now see the light that TLJ is not only the greatest Star Wars movie, but it is also the greatest version of itself and could not possibly be any better!!!!
I saw that as a likely possiblity as well, I just thought "Wait a minute, that'd be an idiotic and anticlimactic reveal, no way they'd do that, nevermind." The movie comes out, I see it as soon as possible,
*Thursday at 10:00 PM, in 3D,*
wondering how that would go down, in that moment when I saw it, no possibilities came to mind, believe it or not, refrained from watching theory videos for months upon months on end, and the movie was still boring and disappointing. Hell, I would've been okay with the parents being nobodies, as long as they provided a logical explanation for why Rey is so powerful, after the movie I started thinking about explanations, my best one is that she is the reincarnation of the Daughter, Morai I think was her name, and I also suspected that Snoke could've been the Son, surviving Anakin's attempt on his life, explaining his fixation on the Skywalkers and tie pretty much everything together wonderfully.
So to him Avengers Infinity War is the worst movie of 2018 because people predicted Spiderman and Vision dies?
Pinocchio saying: My nose will grow... Now!", isn't a prediction if he's wrong, or possibly right, since that's going to make it a lie and make his nose grow... That is a paradoxical concept. Yolo!