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@112aas1 It amazes me the extent that your government has gone to restrict the rights of its citizens to own firearms and even pocket knives. Then, during the truckers protest they stopped people from donating money or even food those involved in the completely peaceful protest. Here in the USA, we let Leftist groups burn government building, tear down statues, and take over cities.
Louis, the microphone link above is for the Blue mic. Can you provide a link for the headworn mic you used in the video? I had a warm sound to your voice with minimal echo even though it looks like the room you are in has hard surfaces not to far from you. Thanks.
I think there will be a good sponsor who will understand how impactful advertising on that channel will be
If buying is not owning, then piracy is not stealing.
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WEF's Great Reset is making itself known, hopefully everyone prepared a boat. Things are about to get rocky.
Yep, I also like 'if buying is not owning then I'll own xxxxx by not buying '.
@@stevenyee1055WEF is also steadily losing ground as more and more folks and notable figureheads are speaking out against them.
Tyrants tend to get more abusive when they're losing control.
Imagine buying a house, then the builder shows up 2 years later to knock down the bathroom & put the toilet in the kitchen, and if you don't agree then they take your whole house away.
Mandating a full refund for the full price paid as the alternative to agreeing to things like this should be a good deterrent to companies pulling this BS
Yes but the only reason this is happening is because people keep paying them.If people would stop buying from them it is finished, no matter how much restrictions or EULA's they hang on it. No? To stop being an alcoholic one needs to stop drinking first.
While that would be an improvement, it's still ridiculous that they can change a product you own after the fact and force you to stop using it.
@@Novacification Are you responding to me sir? If so, then i would say, not an improvement, it would end there. if there is no business to make there is no reason to make rules regarding that product. The core problem here is critical thinking before one does or purchase something. No?
OP this is just a HOA!
Do as we say or we will take it away!!
What happened to America!
@@s.muller8688 you're asking for individuals to be the solution to systemic issues. Never happened, never going to happen.
Choice is often a luxury to those with time & energy to invest into researching every damned decision they make, and if the company changes the facts 'after' you purchase, you aren't exactly able to make an informed choice anyway are you?
People as a whole follow the path of least resistance & corporations do whatever they aren't either legally or commercially prevented from doing. This is why legislation with consequences with teeth is the only mechanism to prevent many awful practices in businesses. Do you think companies would do things like issue refunds, disclose warnings for allergens & hazardous materials, give detailed & accurate nutritional information on all their food products .etc if they weren't legally required to do so? If you relied on individual consumers to refuse to buy from companies at point of sale until they did all of these things, none of the results of consumer protection law which exists would've ever come to pass.
TLDR: "Critical thought" from individual people resulting in individual boycott action is never going to change what companies and the market as a whole does.
The SAME people who screamed "omg it's not that big of a deal, calm down" will be screaming "When did this happen?!".
Wait until you find out that most of those people who screamed all that nonsense weren't actually people...
truth. Its easier to be agreeable. Path of least resistance.
@@davidd6660ignorance is bliss, people are distracted and dont want to face the reality that the world is run by evil people who desire control, just keep playing your games and watching mindless entertainment on a black screen
I don't know a single person that says "omg it's not that big of a deal, calm down" will be screaming" to something like this.
@@davidd6660 I choose the harder road. I know what I do is right.
This shouldn't be legal.
In the EU is isn't and Blizzard is in for one hell of a time with a ton of lawsuits waiting for them. A ton of lawsuits they're bound to lose. :3
It is not. If you are forced to sign a contract it is not binding. Duress is a very big legal thing in america.
What thier planning on doing is illegal unless you agree to "wave" your constitutional rights away.
They are banking on people won't sue them, this wouldn't be upheld in court.
This post-purchase bait and switch should be classed as theft and/or fraud.
it is , contract law
This and many other things are theft and fraud but when you, in a matter of speaking, own the legal system, then what will be enforced? Nothing
The foundational issue at hand is that the monetary system is based on theft and fraud. That’s what taxes and inflation (counterfeiting) is.
@@bn880Contract law has devolved into whoever can afford a lawyer the longest wins.
Good luck suing, they put in an arbitration clause that hamstrings your legal recourse options.
Good thing Blizzard caused me to not want to give them money around 3 years ago.
I was there. "Remember the horrible things happening in the not so distant already dystopic past?" I remember. Good times, because it got worse.
they still have a lot of people to give them money tho. So they are living well without you guys
@@athrunmoza8996They won't be living as well without those guys and if those numbers increase it'll get worse and worse.
@@athrunmoza8996 Who cares? Plenty of terrible people and companies that have done worse get to keep living well, nothing new.
how is that any better? 3 years woopiedo you are the problem that got us here, if you stopped paying them money 10 years ago or more than it'll be different but you're literally one of the reasons this shit happens
Boiling frog effect. We will own nothing and be happy is happening right now.
"They're choking us so slowly, we're starting not to notice."
It's been happening since they rolled out property tax, we were too mesmerized by the empty promise of "free" $#!+ to remember that the poliTRICK$ter whose campaigning on the "VOTE FOR ME & YOU'LL NEVER HAVE TO WORK AGAIN!!!" Platform is counting on the fact dead people can't work.
Utterly shameless, dystopian greed.
Time to boycott blizzard, Roku and any of these corporations screwing over the customers 😡
All corporations are Brah
Boycotts don't work. It's time for real activism.
Not hard to boycott blizzard. Their games are pitiful trash compared to the excellent indie stuff that's come out in the last few years.
Sony too. Anti-consumer behavior must be excluded from future purchases.
@@gabe_0xBut it's unfortunately harder to boycott Microsoft products and games made by all their subsidiaries that do stuff like Blizzard did here.
Hackers are more needed now than ever
Which would only result in taking down blizzard's servers or something and it would be punishing the paying customers. This stuff won't stop until lamppost ornaments start showing up.
@icaanul No, it would actually look more like forking off and playing the game on private servers independent of Blizzard's stuff. Similar to a crypto hard fork.
@@duketogo2616 private servers are great. Or atleast they were like 8 years ago. I dunno how they are now. But yeahhhh if blizzards gonna act like that private is the way to go. If theyre gonna break their contract, we'll break it too. (Im assuming playing private servers is against their terms)
@@icaanul Those aren't customers those are hostages.
@@icaanul that is fine tbh. those who keep paying to play Blizzard game green lighting their shady practices should suffer as much. they enable scummy corporate to do many kinds of bull shit practices and then others company will follow suit.
I said this a few times before on this channel, that stuff seems to be largely US-specific. In the EU, you can click “Agree”, but it has zero consequences. Terms of Service cannot be enforced if you purchased a product and you can only learn about the ToS after the fact. Same goes for EULAs. Those are null and void in the EU. In the EU, a subscription service (think Spotify or Netflix) cannot change the ToS without giving you an option to cancel the subscription. This is largely unimportant as those services tend to have a pay-per-month and cancel-any-month policy, but others like telecommunication services usually bind you for 2 years after a contract, and only after those 2 initial years, you can cancel any month. However, if they change ToS, they must either offer to cancel immediately or offer to continue the remainder of the contract under the old ToS.
If you purchased a piece of software off the shelf (I mean literally, a box in a physical store), the only terms and conditions that can apply to you must be printed on the outside of the box.
This is disgusting. Thank you for reporting on this issue.
That's the problem. Money. We're the only species that pays money to live. No money, you starve. Tell me something that doesn't require money to live. Just one. I'll tell you. Everything is made to need money. That's the root of the problem and governments like that. Printing you paper money and making you a slave.
It would also be nice to talk about how we can create a society without money and make people stop wanting financial domination and exploitation of people by people. Those are the main issues.
@@black_dragon274 The reason why we live in a society with money or some form of currency is because there's no better alternative, until there's a better alternative then money then it will become obsolete, there will always be some form of currency weather you accept that or not, the idea of money has been a thing since the beginning of man to say that we need another alternative would probably cause some type of anarchism. Its just the nature of the beast to want said currency and always will be. To say that money makes you a slave is a really bad analogy logically because that would mean that everybody is a slave, just some people have more money then others doesn't make them a slave, most companies give you 30 minute to 1 hour breaks, top it all off anyone has a right to start there own company and be successful in many different ways. The way you are thinking is the main issue, now if you want to tackle a better issue tackle issues like why aren't people susceptible to change?
@@jerkrop We live in a world of scarcity that's why there's exchange .
That is happening to me right now. State Farm jacked up EVERYONES insurance rates and then created this Drive Safe and Save program to lower your insurance back down to what it used to be IF you install their beacon. You turn a corner too hard? It dings you. You slam on brakes to avoid a crash? It dings you. A deer runs out in front of you and you slam the brakes and avoid it and veer off the road? It dings you. Someone pulls out in front of you and you swerve hard to avoid them? It dings YOU. It doesn’t take into account what other people do on the road and punishes YOU for THEIR actions. Your kid calls with an emergency and you answer the phone? It detects you using your phone. It dings you.
Putting a spy device in your car so they can find more excuses to deny coverage, just like a good neighbour.
requiring insurance is a violation of your due process rights because to require insurance is saying sometime in the future you will get in an accident that will be your fault and you will refuse to pay the damages therefor we are going to punish you now when it happens and after it happens
Right to travel! Enforce it or except your slavery. The constitution doesn’t enforce itself and government is dead against it
@@toddshrader8407 Your legally required to have insureance because if you dont have it and cant afford to cover the damages and you smash someones car to bits you have now just fucked that persons life up.
Either you can afford to pay for damages if it happens or your not allowed to drive.
SInce the US has been built around cars for the past century you need one to live a life if your not in the centre of a major city so its pretty important to not fuck over someone elses life.
It differs between countries. From what i understand, in australia your only required to have Compulsory Third Party insurance (paid up front with your cars registration fees) which only covers injury or death to other people. From what i can tell you are not required to have coverage for the vehicles themselves.
@@toddshrader8407 You have zero civil rights when it comes to cars. Congress could ban them tomorrow and SCOTUS could do nothing to stop it.
This is why I love "dumb" devices/appliances. The headache of having every blasted contraption connected to the internet is just not worth it.
This is one of the reasons why I use iPods these days. My iPod 6th gen and my 4th gen do not have any rights over me.
Smart devices make dumb people.
@@ambiarock590
I still have a lot of old tech as well. So far none have taken a crap.
True I still don’t get why u have to connect a oven to wi-fi.
I was looking to buy a television recently - what I actually wanted was a monitor with built-in speakers - but I couldn't identify one that wasn't "smart". I ended up buying nothing at all. Fine by me!
That's what 👉 'you will own NOTHING' means...
And unfortunately seems to include the purchase of EVERYTHING we buy - TV 📺, computer 🖥, appliances, vehicle, home, etc -There is no limit to their greed.
I'm expecting to hear about law suits soon ...
law suits wont help you, hamster.
@UniDeathRaven
It's that or fight...
"You will own nothing" means "Attachment breeds despair". You misunderstand the phrase. And you're only proving it correct when you go "everything".
"You will own nothing" means to lean to "Make something from nothing". That's the trick to it.
It's why I never buy smart TV, s/ monitors, and am driving older cars they have none of these issues.
@@tilburg8683
I agree. But slowly they're forcing these things on us (as our things eventually fail) and the only replacements being sold are the smart ones.
Bloody excellent Louis.
The answer I think, is to be what I call a "neo-Luddite": Just don't buy things you can't fix. Do you really need fancy razzle-dazzle made-to-fail junk? The less you need it, the more it costs and more failure-prone it likely is. Isn't it better to be thinking about how things work, and continuously honing your troubleshooting skills than to while-away your time looking at even jazzier graphics and fondling spiffier hardware?
Pride your self on what you know, not the recentcy and priciness of what you own.
We need legislation which mandates that any type of post-sale agreement that cannot be bypassed or declined(thus continuing the agreement that was made at time of sale) require the alternative of a full refund by the manufacturer, as well as a full-blown end to forced arbitration.
That would be nice, but the Congress is mostly corrupt and owned by big corporate money, so... not gonna happen.
I think that ship has sailed more than a decade ago. It would require an incredible shift in US policy & way more backbone in politics that seems possible in the near future.
If I can't play your game with ample hardware. Give me my money back.
That’s True.
@@acmhfmggru glad to hear it. They're fucked in other ways, but at least they have consumer protection.
“But the plans were on display…”
“On display? I eventually had to go down to the cellar to find them.”
“That’s the display department.”
“With a flashlight.”
“Ah, well, the lights had probably gone.”
“So had the stairs.”
“But look, you found the notice, didn’t you?”
“Yes,” said Arthur, “yes I did. It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”
DO NOT TRUST YOUR LOCAL POLICE!
They were displayed inside the wrapping inside the box inside the safe inside the locked room.
Upvote if you recognise where this is from. Love for Douglas Addams. RIP
Hahaha, I basically made a similar joke about how hard Customer Service pages are to find on websites during the web3 hype, imagine having to walk an avatar to the very boiler room of a web3 "website" just so you can find a weathered decal on a wall that specifies their contact info
Could have been worse, they could have been on of the 0.000000001% raid drops in WoW - SO glad I stopped playing Blizzard or ActiBlizzard games years ago.
Face it, in the USA consumer protections are rapidly disappearing.
in California, there's more and more every year.
welcome to feudal corporate world , you've been warned for decades .
"Face it, in the world consumer protections are rapidly disappearing."
You're absolutely right, and I wish more people would bring attention to these things. It's not just consumer rights that are disappearing. It's ALL of them. Even constitutional rights.
Blizzard. We know what you want. You don't. You think you do, but you dont.
Is this some kind of early April fools prank?
Are you sure? Or could it be the Owners of Blizzard's problem? Blizzard hasn't been their own captain for a while.
@@quantumleaper
It applies all the way up the chain. Right up into the WEFs butthole.
@@SvendleBerries wef conspiracytard
“Do you guys not have private servers!?
Imagine a world where businesses can just say "I've altered the deal, pray I don't alter it further" and it's completely legal.
Oh wait...
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"Legal" and "enforceable" are different. Whether this is enforceable is an open question. In the past, as far as I'm aware, you have not been able to force people into arbitration; there's always been an "opt out" option that was usually a pain in the ass to use but it was there. As far as legal, it's legal to put nearly whatever you want into a contract, it's just that it might be invalid and unenforceable.
@@twocows360 except, with some exceptions, if you sign the agreement with mandatory arbitration the courts will enforce the terms in almost every state and always if the clause properly invokes the Federal Arbitration Act. having an opt-out isn't common.
This is spot on. It made me think, alot. That line was put in the movie to kinda shock people and reveal just how evil and corrupt Darth Vader and the Empire were. I bet back in 1980, when that movie was in the theaters, that line sparked a feeling of outrage and resentment toward the Empire in everyone that saw the movie. How does it hold up today? Do people today just think "ah, what can you do?" Do people still breathe a sigh of relief when Lando tells his cyborg security chief to stop what is happening. That line and the events surrounding it seem to be reflected in many things happening today. It's almost like Star Wars is a cautionary tale...
*Deep breathing*
These scumbag companies have no shame at all.
In Poland we actually have an article in civil law (art. 383(1) Kodeks Cywilny) prohibiting just that. Should be pretty easy to win in court.
I've looked at translations of both 383(1) and 383 and neither of them say this. Could you provide a translation?
Lawyer here from another country: Here in our office we literally have a suit where there's a forced arbitration in a renting contract. We are simply treating such clause as a abusive, one sided, adesive clause that holds no water.
Of course, our courts are very consumer friendly, but forcing arbitration is a abusive clause, and since EULAs are not legally binding, they can write whatever they want, it won't hold water.
Are you from EU?
Where u from? We need to know the escape country..
@@eafesaf6934 Mongolia
America is corp first money 2nd consumer never
If it makes the court it probably wouldn't hold water in the United States either, the problem is in the United States and most place involving lawyers the law of favors whoever can afford a lawyer the longest. Companies who sell directly to end-users like game companies have realized that most consumers cannot afford a lawyer or even court fees therefore by making any abuse a legal matter they can get a default win.
So I spent 15k on a EDL11000 generator and 8k on an EDL 8000 (CAD). Both developed injector issues before they ticked over 1000 hours of runtime. (one is at 500 hours, the other is at 250 hours).
Take em into the repair shop, and they find out that only yamaha can get access to the new injectors. They won't ship them, sell them, or send a tech. These generators are essentially unrepairable now as I am VERY far from their certified place. Indeed that's the whole reason I needed a large diesel generator anyway.
I hate our brave new world.
Just take the injector out and clean it. You might even be able to disassemble it.
DO NOT TRUST YOUR LOCAL POLICE!
@@SoberHighDrunkwrong vid n channel but yeah...
i would recommend buying a military surplus generator if possible, much more reliable and easier to repair yourself if need be
@@jamesp7760 thanks for the suggestion. It was attempted to no avail on the smaller of the two. I'm working on getting some from another engine that uses the same injectors.
I demanded a refund from Blizzard for each game that I ever paid for, and for my ill-considered pre-purchase of the latest WoW expansion pack. They came back and just said that none of my purchases are eligible for a refund, including the expansion that isn't even out yet. They literally stole the products that I bought from them years and years ago, including Warcraft 3 which was not an online-only licensed game when I bought it, and now they just refuse to do anything related to giving me my money back for it. How is this not theft?? How can they legally take back a product that a consumer purchased over 20 years after the purchase and then not give you anything in return, then (also post-purchase) change the EULA to remove your ability to take legal action against them? That's like if a car manufacturer repossessed your car after you paid it off and then just said you can't sue them because they decided that your continued ownership of the car somehow constituted an agreement to forfeit your ownership when it became convenient for them. If that was in the agreement when you purchased the car, then that's legally fine. But how can they change the agreement after your purchase was finalized and then somehow hold you to it?
Then sue them and drag their asses to court.
@@LexGoyle I wish I could, but that forced arbitration clause makes it a lot harder.
For the expansion that isn't even out yet?
Did you pre order?
@@taramaforhaikido7272 Yes to both. It was definitely ill-considered. I've had three different support people tell me that they can't refund it because I've played it too much, and every time I tell them that I can't have played it because it's not even out yet, they just send me to a new support person who says the same thing...
No one in their right mind would refund you games you bought 10 years ago and played for 1000s of hours. When you bought TWW you got DF that you played (and you didnt play it for only a few hours). Half the people here have half a brain cell. You cant get a refund anywhere after you have used the product/played the game you bought for long enough. You have 0 grounds for refund or a court case.
Thank you for the good fight Louis. We need more people like you online calling this out.
"People only care about something when it affects them, but by the time it eventually does affect them, it's too late to do anything about it" - This is very sound logic and I wish more people thought this way.
The worst part is when you try to explain it to them and they just dismiss you as crazy.
Because of course it is crazy to assume that a multi-billion dollar corporation will do whatever it can to squeeze money out of its consumers as long as it can legally get away with it?
Martin Niemöller agrees.
@@TheTwinkelminkelsonEven illegally. After all, they have more money than anyone and barring really bad cases where they are objectively and definitely in the wrong, if there's a grey area, THEY will win because they simply can go on for longer.
First They Came, by Pastor Martin Niemöller
And that’s why America made life saving procedures illegal.
"people aren't going to care until it personally effects them." Man I've been feeling this for years.
Like women being all about the wokeness until it started to cost them athletics medals.
I'm tired of people who have this attitude. People better start caring about things that don't effect them directly or personally, because one day it can and will. Even if it does not, they can prevent it from harming others, and that's a good thing.
Exactly! I wish more people would take action for the greater good. But most people just won’t till something threatens them personally. I’ve been a privacy advocate for years and getting people to act on things like this can feel just about impossible.
@@XoaGray I agree, people are selfish and lazy, and won't go out of their way for anything. People need to stand up for their rights and freedoms or it can go away.
So when it affects someone else that's when people stop caring?
Not very good logic there. Which is the logic others seem to go with at least. NEITHER side helps then.
First ad I've watched in half a decade, thanks for warning me about it so I could avoid if I wished.
It's true what you say about them pushing a limit an inch at a time and I've tried to warn people about micro transactions for years and leasing in general. When so many people are just opening a subscription here, and another there and just leasing things, they won't know what is happening to things you could own instead simply because they do not have to.
We live in a time where it is promoted to be careless and sadly most people fall for it.
Someone in Congress needs to make a bill making forced arbitration illegal.
Here is a doozy, covid pretty much shut down my business, so I went and got a job driving at a car dealership, well as the terms of hiring me I had to sign forced arbitration or guess what no job, this sucks so the company can screw you over and you cannot take them to court. There needs to be a law that says you have 2 options arbitration OR you can go to court, this one sided crap sucks.
did you try to go through the arbitration?:@@markcab2055
What's forced arbitration exactly? They choose an internal arbitrator?
Lol nice one.
sure, just pay them more than the companies do and maybe they will...
*You will own everything and they will be mad as hell*
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Thank you for all of your work Louis! Really important stuff.
It's Activision-Blizzard, now owned by Microsoft. Of course it's gonna be even more anti-consumer.
Right from Billy G’s playbook.
Hiel the New World Order@@Rovr0
I think regulators blocked that ownership deal
Edit: I searched and it seems that they completed the deal
@@zrizzy6958 they did not. it eventually went through.
And people claimed Microsoft was going to make things better .... haha.
I can tell how deflated Louis is by trying to fight the good fight.
The fact that this stuff is already happening and people aren’t waking up, I think it’s already too late.
You literally touch the brakes on your car. Too hard in a 10 minute drive cycle and three months later your insurance premiums go up. Please read that last sentence again, does this make sense to anyone? This is what’s happening
Sad :(
I found out aboutvthis last week, coincidentally. Do you know how far back yu need to go to find car that doesn't do this?
The problem is people don't have the time or energy to fight this good fight. this has been the premise of why so many things go the corrupt way. Lawyers are paid to do this night and day to f--- the common man, working class people don't have time or energy to do this. It's not as simple as it seems. This is also psychological warfare.
@@missKiki2012 I don't know. But I have a 1979 Trans am, a 1985 CB125s and a 1999 Van. My van is incapable of this... but cell phone is linked to my insurance company!
I think my cell phone might be ratting me out to the insurance company. It knows I drive 70mph with traffic on a 55mph highway.
10 years ago my fathers cell phone recommended to him that he drive to work, on his day off. That freaked him out.
My car is too old to have any trackers and “I don’t own a mobile device”
"Sale is Final" became
"Item may last until next alleged Update"
Blizzard deleted my games due to inactivity. When I saw the emails I thought they were scammers and ignored them.
The problem is that the government doesn't pass basic consumer protections to prevent this.
the government doesn't care about u dude, just look at recent events and policies
If America had good consumer protection laws than no corporations would exist. This country is built off of screwing over the consumer whenever possible. It'll never change
The problem is that the government enforces IP laws, without which these companies would have to actually provide a valuable service.
Do you remember what administration started dismantling the CFPB?
That is because there is no governments only corporations that rules all.
If buying isn't owning than piracy is not theft.
Polly want a cracker?
its not buying its renting - thats what theyve always said and its why they quit selling cds for the most part because buying cds I MEAN Dvds whatever gave people the impression they were buying the game but thats not really the case all people were really buying was software cds that loaded initial files onto the computer to DOWNLOAD necessary game files that were all blizzard property - that's the argument theyve always presented anyway. Sure it pissed off a lotta people because it certainly did make them feel very ripped off because the way the dvds were marketed was to make the buyer believe they were BUYING THE GAME when in fact they werent.
DO NOT TRUST YOUR LOCAL POLICE!
i don't think you understand that you have not bought anything
what you can trust your local cops (trust em to phuck you up if ya look at em funny)@@SoberHighDrunk
Thank you for what you are doing here!
Thank you, Louis, for doing these videos.
Wtf can we not own anything anymore?
That seems to be the goal. Hmm reminds me of what that wef thing said "you will own nothing and be happy"
Own nothing be happy eat ze bugs
you never owned anything in your accounts in the first place. When you play mmorpgs it says in the agreements you sign that you are BORROWING the accounts, you dont own them, the items on them, the gold, nothing.
no u cant..and there coming for private property next!
People are finally understanding
Unfortunately companies are following the exact same pattern as our politicians....One right taken away at a time. Sad really.
it's almost like they're on the same side, eh?
@@sunbleachedangelyeah almost just like that! It’s like the companies just buy both “sides”
I love when you tell me stories in your awesome voice and I walk away frustrated by these companies, but not surprised, and always more educated. You rock.
You shouldn't own anything anymore and be happy with it! In the future, everything will only be available for rent and nothing will be available for purchase. Look at Microsoft, almost everything is only available as a subscription. Some car manufacturers only offer seat heating for a SUBSCRIPTION fee! You can't buy it anymore, no you should rent EVERYTHING! This way they can cash in on you 1 million times instead of once. Disgusting.
If the phrases "I'm going to treat you the way you are treating me" or "Let me return that favor your way" come across as a threat to someone...that means they know they are doing wrong and are ok with it. Somehow I think if I said those phrases to Blizzard they would take that as a threat.
Including death threats?
@@karlaboerger3619 "even a fool who keeps silent is considered wise, and when they close their lips, they are regarded as discerning and a man of understanding" - Proverbs
Nah, they’ll just melt because summer is coming 😅
@@shikyokira3065 Only a coward hides behind silence.
It's about communication. No excuses.
Today, I opened up my xbox 360 guitar so I could replace all the innards with a single Pi Pico and convert it to a Bluetooth controller to play Clone Hero. But, when i noticed that the issue was due to a mechanical failure, I decided to make a model and print my own replacement. I don't know how some people could even begin to defend a company like Microsoft from calling patent infringement on such a thing. A repair is a service, not a counterfeiting scheme.
This is the reason why I do not have a subscription to a bookkeeping program and Microsoft office. I'm glad I'm driving an old car with none of those high-tech stuff.
From my favorite artists I still have Cd's. In the past programs like Spotify have proven themselves to be unreliable partners in safekeeping your songs library. Same goes for movies I really really like.
“Think about the things 30 years ago that wpuld have been insane”
I was just thinking the other day about how all these things that ship in Windows today, were considered malware back in the 90s. Pop up nags, forced ads, tracking, taking over your browser. This was all stuff that would only happen to you if your computer was infected with something most likely because you downloaded something from somewhere shady. This was considered by Microsoft and by all users to be a serious issue that meant your computer was in bad shape.
It would seem unbelievable to me in the 90s that Microsoft would build and ship its OS with this stuff intentionally integrated.
This is more or less exactly what we all said when games went digital and put in DRM.
yep... and yet we were told we are "overreacting" or "paranoid", I remember back in the day trying to explain why I wanted to get discs not just download it through steam when that was becoming more popular. Mind you I like steam, even at that time. But who knows how a company will be tomorrow and if they will just take everything from you.
Buy your games at GOG. No DRM and 30 day money back no questions asked.
Yeah, also more or less exactly what we've said when games went with "disc protection" drm bullshit. Securom anyone?
@@nekohexmachinasecurom has broken parts of my games on modern OSes to this day. It’s ridiculous
So? The only option then would be to not buy any games from any platform. Or you could pirate them, but piracy does screw over normal consumers. It's like a bad feedback loop.
I've been getting numerous "We've updated our TOS" e-mails the past few weeks from so many companies I've lost count.
Companies nowadays update their ToS more often than they update their shitty software. That's where modern day innovation's at.
To be fair many of those are probably for EU consumer rights compliance... and there will be more as time goes on. Frankly the US has become a cesspool for consumer protection and has ceded almost everyone's rights to corporations (WHO ARE NOT PEOPLE). It is the EU that is slowly taking on these things... like universal charging ports and data privacy disclosures and maybe even right to repair. I believe those efforts in the US have been stalled by Lobbying and Lawfare for too long. People like Louis and Cory Doctorow and others will keep fighting the good fight, but I believe ultimately it will be the EU that legislates and the US will follow and benefit from the EU hard work.
Same for me, never had this many updates like last few weeks and im tired of clicking agree let alone reading that crap
That makes sense for services that constantly change like notion or something, doesn't make sense for a game that doesn't change after you buy it.
@@Boz1211111 I just got another one this morning from PayPal saying they're changing their TOS
I'm glad there are still people like you out there who will say things as they are without embellishing the ugly reality. Thanks for this!
Thank you for being you man.
Where are the litigation lawyers?
Where are the class action lawsuits?
Consumers are pussies, so no one does anything about it.
Even before they were bought by Microsoft they were a money printing machine that was on the top of the food chain until Fortnite came around. And now with Microsoft behind them it would require a class action lawsuits from entire countries to make sure that it would go to trial and not have them outspend you in lawyer fees.
We need a cap on how much courts can cost or something. It's always been a problem but now that so many companies have more free cash than the GDP of most countries we're entering into dangerous territory
In Texas there are not Good medical lawyers...check out the "statute of limitations" to protect hospitals...more than even doctors
class action lawsuits are usually waived in the arbitration clause you agreed to. file a small claims suit if you want.
These companies are going to be shocked when Australia and/or the EU flattens them for breaching existing laws.
Yeah Australian consumer protection law was the reason Valve even had to implement its Steam refund policy. As much as you have had people big-up Valve in the years since for their refund policy, they didn't do it out of the goodness of their hearts. They just aren't so psychotically resistant to doing the right thing like some companies are apparently determined to be.
Unfortunately I'm not sure sufficient legislation or precedent exists in the EU or Australia to specifically address the issue of products accessed via a service like this.
@@InnuendoXP when companies are run by psychopaths it doesnt suprise me
"You will own nothing and be happy!"
Maybe even ourselves soon?
...and this is precisely, PRECISELY, why me and my colleague exclusively drive old cars, use analogue and older non-smart digital equipment as far as possible, buy physical media, deny any and all "ad-hoc" services on devices, use a DNS on all phones and tablets, unsubscribe from BS mailing lists immediately after getting what we need etc etc. We don't even use UA-cam except to upload content, fornviewing we use NewPipe, so their adverts never reach us. We refuse to by subjugated by greedy and self-interested corporations.
My company recently added an arbitration agreement which is automatically agreed to if you dont opt out. They send an email to confirm you read the document and stated there would be a follow-up email for the opt out, but that one never came. I had to send an email to a ghost person, whose email I would not have known without my boss sending us their contact info, in order to opt out. Basically makes it impossible for you to sue anyone in the company, because an arbiter from the company will handle the case.
Best Buy doesn't even have an opt-out. I remember they did back in 2016 and we had no choice but to accept it or no job. Left them a couple of years later.
You should be building a case then… record all that info the hand it over to your attorney general/labor department. That’s cut and dry illegal.
@@1betterthanyou1 Them and what money? Lawsuits and legal fees are expensive and people just don't have the money to attempt to out-wallet a corporation, sadly
@@xzscvbnmMay want to read past the first seven words. The Attorney general and labor department have money.
@@MyReviews_karkanthat’s 100% egregious!!
Whenever possible, we need to stop giving money to people that hate us.
yeah, that's why I rather play Ninten.... oh
(impossible)
Emulators are a thing :)
I respect you so much, dude. Absolutely everything you say and do on this channel is spot on!
Thank you for fighting the GREAT FIGHT! I was thinking about your "death by a thousand cuts" reference and it is so friggin TRUE.
It’s crazy how often you hear or see people say “who cares”, or “that’s just how it is now”.
Until the car they are using won't start because the subscription service server is down and has forgotten their last payment.
traitors use to say this, the are not people they are expendable sheep.
that is the worst. not only they dont plan to do anything when companies are scamming people like themselves, but actually go out of their way to berate the ones that try on their behalf. like my god dude, is already bad that you are apathetic towards something that affects you directly, but please, stop at apathy, if you are going to do something, dont let that something actually be a defense towards the company itself.
“JuSt DoNt BuY ThEiR PrODUcTs!!!” screamed the knuckledragger as he choked on the boot.
These are BS artists who roll onto their backs to get f'd because they never take a stance and therefore are ALWAYS the "innocent victim". These sorts just cannot accept any sort of personal responsibility and want others to make the call then they whinge...
Louis needs to start a series called "Reading Fine Print is fun".
Wasn't even that fine of a print this time
Mozilla has a thing like that, Privacy Not Included
or it's what adults do.
Reminds me of the South Park episode "Human Centipad"
I really appreciate that you keep us informed of this important info ...
Thanks for the info brother!
I cannot believe that a forced agreement to new terms would stand up in court.
Have you seen recent court rulings? It's not justice anymore, it's political.
@EmperorTalpa I'm glad I'm not the only one who's noticed this. I never realized how much I overestimated humanity 'til the last few years. It gives me hope when I still find decent people. Most people seem fine with the bar lowering every few days. Or act as if it's always been this way. It really creeps me out.
Thank you. 😊
'Murica. F__k Yeah!
Anywhere with actual customer protections nope.
The other problem is the Law is the US generally belongs to those with the deepest pockets, not Justice.
If it will not stand in court they will Lawfare it and then payoff the case with a settlement to avoid a precedental judgement.
Louis, there's a similar topic you might want to look into.
- Riot Games, devs for League of Legenda are adding their proprietary Vanguard anti-cheating system originally used for Valorant to League of Legends.
- it's kernel level and this was announced mere months after a massive hack/data breach. Kernel level access for hackers would make hacks even worse.
- Due to its nature, Vanguard runs on boot and is always running in the background, regardless if you're playing their game or not.
- The main League of Legends subreddit which is under Riot's thumb was heavily censoring all dissent. All independant subreddits had a majority of negative opinions about this.
- Players who may have played the game for years and/or spent money will not be able to access the game unless they install the intrusive spyware/anti-cheat
- League of Legends has at no point ever had any issues with hackers/cheaters and the measure is unnecessary
- Vanguard also breaks modded clients (for content creators to have better camera controls) and minor mods like custom skins.
- Riot is owned by Tencent
- Vanguard also means that a game that previously was widely accessible on a global scale will now lose a decent chunk of its users due to requiring TPS 2.0 from what I recall. Many people have no financial stability due to place of residence to even purchase a Win10/11 ready machine. Lots of people were running the game on decade old laptops.
grandfather clause. we jsut need someone to sue
When I was a kid I had one of those snack lunch kits that I'd take to school almost every day and one exploded in my lunch box. My mom ended up calling their questions and concerns number. Next thing I knew, we got a big gift basket with stuff from all kinds of brands, Koolaid and life savers being two I remember, and it was great. I still have the koolaid spoon that was in that basket. You will never see that out of these big corporations ever again with the way things are moving now.
Usually when relationships are this one sided all your buddies are in your ear telling you that you need to leave him/her, but I don't know what any of us can do against these sorts of problems in this age.
Companies still do this. I got a huge chunk of rubber in a hamburger helper packet last year and they sent us a ton of coupons for heavy discount on their products. I also got an oatmeal cream cookie that was missing the cream and they sent us a bunch of random snack boxes. They're just bribing you so you don't sue them in the end its a gross practice.
@@Fine_i_set_the_handle " its a gross practice." At the end of the day, I'd rather have the gift basket treatment, than what Blizzard and other modern corps are doing to us.
@@Fine_i_set_the_handle I mean I rather the "were sorry, heres some stuff to make you happy" try to fix it method than the "you are using it wrong, go fuck yourself" method like in this video or apple XD (iphone 4)
Saving the ad for last. Gotta love this guy!
That's just unacceptable. Someone needs to sue them for this BS.
I bought an American brand Vinyl turntable here in the UK. It's high end true Hi-Fi and still for sale on many websites. Unfortunately, the drive belt got damaged and looked for a replacement. It was shocking to find that the company (Fluance) do not provide any spare parts for the player, and it proved impossible to source one from the UK. I went to their U.S. site and saw a belt for about $13. When I went through to pay, they were asking for over £100 postage, basically for a rubber band. I contacted them and they said it was due to customs etc., which is ridiculous. So my expensive vinyl player is currently driven by a drive belt, cut to size and super glued together.
That’s wild!!
duct-tape is your best friend....it fixes everything....
Shipping costs between US and UK now are EXORBITANT. A few years ago I bought British model trains and had them sent to the US. I wanted to send them back to the UK last month, but the shipping cost now exceeds the original shipping costs plus purchase costs combined.
That‘s Brexit for you. You‘d think your government would have at least tried to secure advantages in trading with the USA, but apparently not. Or they were unsuccessful due to Britain being so tiny. You guys really got screwed over. Remember that next time EU membership comes up.
Lol it is true though
We need a law that states that if a change of service is implemented, a full refund must be offered to anyone not agreeing to the terms of the software that was already purchased.
The games were products. Battle net is the service.
Um then the product needs to be able to be played off line without the service in that case. One should not be able to brick it. If I were in congress that is a law I would push for and I suggest we also push for that. @@nathanelfamy4190
Also if you buy something under a certain agreement, then it needs to be honored. You buy something under a certain agreement people should not be able to change those terms on you, period, without refunding the product.
It will not happen. You pay for law makers' salaries, corporations pay for their bonuses.
Your attitude is why it is this way. @@kokorochacarero8003
This is why there should be International Consumer Rights Legislation for products sold internationally!
I appreciate you being straight about when it is time to insert video ad. That is super helpful. I would never use an ad block if it were like this normally or if companies didn't spam every home page of everything I use everywhere with ads.
"you agreed to the terms" No sir I didnt, you force me to agree to it. This BS should be illegal..
Consent under duress is not consent. If you force me to agree to the new terms by using the thing I paid for as a ransom I didn't agree to shit.
Based comments... ❤🎉
@@ambiarock590this right here. Actually true. You can sue them to hell for forcing you/coercing you into agreeing their unlawful changes just for you to be able to use PREVIOUSLY PURCHASED products.
I hate the triple A gaming sector and I'm tickled pink with its ongoing implosion.
As a game dev that has been in the AAA sector for over 10 years, and recently laid off.... I agree. Now I just need to start my own studio that mocks the alphabet people, and have fun game play. So sick of walking on egg shells at work. Well use to anyways.
@@travzero113 god speed
reality is the actual pain is only going to the most powerless employees. the actual decision makers get off scott free while programmers and artists get kicked to the curb
@@travzero113Damn bro I think we could form a group pretty easy.
Modern AAA games are *Crap* there's tons of indie games out there that are way beter.
Thank you for pointing this out. Please continue to make these videos. It seems the more people love a product, the more the product maker gets to exploit thier fans. I've tried telling people of these risks, but it's like talking to a wall.
"You will own nothing and be happy"
Sounds like blizzard
Blizzard is owned by Microsoft
Blizzard where the first to do this shit
@@OSVTubers Recently but they've been this way for about a decade or so now so it's not a microsoft influence.
Actually feels a lot more Ubisoft, but hey. Nobody has "Blizzard gets less slimy" on their bingo card in 2024.
@@icaanul It started when Blizzard merged with Activision about 15 years ago.
Great video, It's a serious problem and few people talk about it.
Keep up the good work!!
The number of businesses that will never get my money is getting larger and larger by the day!
good, it means more money for you.
Then eventually there won't be anywhere to buy anything because most of these companies are assholes. :(
Yeah! It's almost to the point that I can count on one hand the companies with which I will even consider doing business.
unfortunatey it looks like you will have all the money and nothing to buy.
My wallet is growing too. The seeds of freedom is a healthy one to plant
Sounds like a massive lawsuit is required.
Doubt this will work. Terms of service is allowed to be altered after the fact.
That being said, going outside is free.
@@irritatingtruth9121 Then they are not really "terms", they're a lie.
@@irritatingtruth9121 EU does not recognize ToS as valid contract.
Afraid before that massive lawsuit - a change to the laws is required, and good luck with that... :\
@@irritatingtruth9121you are very wrong and you should touch grass first before telling others to do so in a random youtube comment section. Consent under Duress is not legal. At least do some research before looking like an idiot.
I dont drive an electric, I drive a diesel.
I dont pay Apple TV, Netflix or any other crap yet I watch all the top shows and movies the moment they are available.
I never payed for any game, just for hardware.
Software is free for me, well actually I use to buy empty DVDs to burn stuff or memory sticks ectr.. But again just hardware.
I watch all the content, played all the top games and never payed a cent for it.
I am serbian, so it comes natural for me. It is not about the money itself, I can afford to pay but I decide not to because there is another way.
Long live the free World
F Blizzard & companies that do this..If we keep allowing for it, we only have ourselves to blame with the future outcome.
Corporations do this sort of thing, pretty reliably, whenever they feel they can get away with it. The only effective way people can fight back is by regulating corporations, and passing laws to take power from the powerful and give it back to the people.
The problem is, you really don't have much of a choice. Nothing we as consumers can do is going to impact those companies, and people basically too stupid in mass to vote for the right politicians who would pass proper regulations and laws so we're kinda boned as individuals.
100% Blizzard and Activision are all now owned and controlled by Microsoft so if anyone want's to moan at a company it should be Microsoft.
I plan to blame the other 70% of the human population who simply don't care to stop this.
It's not the companies, fuck the USA that allows them to act that way
Pirates out there.... Continue your work. we appreciate you. If I can't own my own bought products, then I am allowed to steal it back.
COPY it back
@@ConceptNull Roger that! I’m doing my part! For democracy!!
he got it right the first time, stealing. Word games thieves play are pathetic@@ConceptNull
@@shizmoo5536 It's not a word game, it's just knowing English.
greetings from switzerland, big fan of yours and long time viewer :)
Louis, I love your rants.
It’s time to boycott everything.
EVERYTHING!
I have not purchased anything name brand at the supermarket in a few years. My only exception is when they are bogo, and I am sticking it to the man by making the purchase. A 2 liter of name brand soda is almost $4.00 here. They think we are gullible idiots.
im boycotting you
@@CaffeinatedFrostbite
Here here!
I’m boycotting me too.
And saying so on youtube LOL
There are good developers out there yet. I promise you can find them if you look.
As Temple Granden put it years ago, "when bad becomes normal". As time goes by, people are no longer taught why they stand up for their rights. Corporations have always been scumbags until the courts forced them to work within the confines of the law. The problem today is we are back to something similar to the turn of the last century and lawmakers are letting it happen since they are as corrupt as they come as well. Lawsuits are the only answer to this and I hope some class actions start taking place. Thank you for the updates.
The real answer is for new companies with a new ethos to form. I'd pay more for a reliable truck, that I could fix myself, and I'd never buy another one from anyone else after that.
Well if you hit agree lawsuits are no longer an option.
Luckily I don't give a single microscopic f==k about any company at this point. (10 years or so)
I got locked out of Steam few years ago and it was the best day ever, the 1st day it felt like the world fell apart more because I wasted time trying to get back into it through different means so I can play some s==t with one person online but the next day or two later when I overcame the fact I am wasting my life, I had an awakening and realization that I got rid of one of the horrible addi==ions and burden in my life and I have no more excuses to come back to PC games whatsoever.
Years ago I had to make up long stories why I don't play some games anymore and why I avoid "friends" who still play them, ever since I lost access to Steam I simply say it doesn't work on my old PC and I wont buy a new PC so that is all.
Additionally I add "I dealt with the facts you should too".
My suggestion is deal with it and move on ... Never repeat the same mistake. From one of which is support idi=tic corporates who f==k you over daily, stop funding this pointless trash and rather do something useful with your money and more importantly with your time of life since life is too short!
Even calling it trash is way too generous because I tend to find good things in trash ... but that is a story for another day ...
I am now broke too, but even if I would not be, I am honestly done wasting time and money on these things.
When ever I had extra money I donated it to someone who actually is struggling.
On a related note I even got banned from gaming groups and official pages etc whenever I said that I don't buy games or support "gamers" and instead donate the money to charity and people in ACTUAL NEED ... they kicked me out with nasty messages as a follow up ... yeah you have to realize who these "people" are and what they do ... they are parasites and most of them run fake charities too so be careful who you donate too!
almost 100% certain that when you agreed to arbitrate you agreed to not file a class action. they're way ahead of you because you're TLDNR.
@@greenflagracing7067 People challange laws and regulations all the time. Slavery would still be legal were that not so. Child labor laws would have never been written, hell, labor laws - you get the idea. Maybe you've never studied law so you don't know. That said, there are many elements that can, and should be challenged in court and will be. Of that there is no doubt.
I am proud to say I don't even know what "Blizzard" is.
Even more proud after watching this video.
Yep I had to double check it's been a few weeks since I signed into blizzard, this is the last straw I'm done with blizzard I un-installed everything blizzard I have. Thanks for the heads up, appreciate your content.
Lol, I paid $60 for a copy of Overwatch back in 2016, but I can't play that game today.
(OW2 isn't the same product. I 'bought' a $60 team-based shooter, not a free-to-play battle pass simulator)
Agreed!
I paid $60 for the game, and at least 3 times spent the highest tier on loot boxes, $40 each time? Or was it 50. Same it’s not the same game
@@nixel5695 when you give money to a company that does lootboxes, you get what you deserve.
@@Nick-zp8wkthey were a company that did lootboxes very well until recently, stop villianifying peoples purchasing habits
Same with CS:GO.
Blizzard locked me out of my account when I refused to change my name. So I locked Blizzard out of my bank account.
I can live without their games. They can't live without my money.
Exactly. Boycott is the answer
I'm curious. What was the name?
@@bbrainstormer2036 I'm going to guess "Baby, Nopants". Obviously an ethnic name that means "free Taiwan".
Edited to try and be funnier and to stick it to the CCP
They can definitely and will live without YOUR money.
Amazed to see people who take the time to reply just to defend a greedy company that has contempt for them. :') Cucked.
We will own nothing. All we have to do is wait for the "happiness".
“I am altering the deal. Pray that I don’t alter it any further.”
You are absolutely correct, Louis. To quote Heath Ledger's Joker from the 2008 movie The Dark Knight, "I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve". And I hate that I have to repeatedly reference this to the point of becoming cliché but the analogy is so apt that it would be a disservice not to. The future is the Nosedive episode in Black Mirror and youre just warning us about it before it inevitability becomes modern day reality.
If paying doesn't mean owning - piracy isn't theft.
if you're going to copypaste memes pick ones that aren't really stupid