Read the TOS. Read what it says in the menu. You don't have to dig to understand what happens when you connect it to the internet. I included Screenshots in this video, but I don't expect people who make comments like this to be literate enough to have read it.
@@rossmanngroup Agreed. Companies just blatantly mention that in the TOS and they know very well that 99% of the consumers won't ever read the TOS and blindly accept. I know a lot of people they don't even care if their privacy is violated because they have "nothing to hide".
There must be a reason comments like this are around, I guess it's the only thing someone can think of to try and down play bad practices. Frankly it is more likely going to be your problem, sense you don't see the risks. Then others might say If your so worried about car crashes don't drive, or being robbed, then don't own stuff. People don't realize how invasive this stuff gets, you talk about anything like ice-cream and see 5 ads later, your info gets sold to scammers, you say a password or names and get hacked, all sorts of stuff, chances maybe low but never 0, there is no end to the risks. Frankly I prefer to NOT buy a door without locks whenever I can.
The worst part is that most people have been conditioned to expect that they need to give away their freedom and information to partake in what they don't understand to be an inferior product. The majority of people using these services don't even know what it means for something to be DRM-free. Preach, bro. You are absolutely right.
one of my colleagues at work helped another collegue of mine create his email account yesterday (he somehow didn't have one until now) and when I made fun of the amount of personal data you have to give them to make an account the guy was like "it's for verification", my ass
Now that the actors are getting screwed by the streamers. Piracy is justified because there is no "poor suffering actor" losing out because the company keeps almost all of it
"If consumers even know there's a DRM, what it is, and how it works, we've already failed" - Peter Lee, Disney Executive in an interview with The Economist in 2005.
@@ryangolden3243 In the spirit of calling it redacted, I think it's the app that allowed you to basically use youtube premium, but was a modded version of the YT app or something. Google got butthurt about it and shut it down, but I expect it can still be found online. There's also plenty of other alternatives, just look for free youtube client.
The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates. -Gabe Newell
I'd *LOVE* to know how these idiots think anything can beat free under capitalism when most people struggle just to eat, let alone afford their escapism via entertainment ROFLMEYERWIENER
And they charge *more* the fewer services you sign up for! It's outrageous but if we want internet, which is required for me to get *any work at all* then, well, we don't have any choice
I buy all the bluray versions of the BBC nature docs. They don't come in a digital version so I barely watch them because I like to go from my laptop in the kitchen while cooking, to the tv when eating. I can't do this with a disc unless I can start it on a UA-cam or pirated version for the kitchen. It's very frustrating. I probably own 50 DVD's I've never even opened for this same reason.
Ok, but if people don't like the paid version, then the ONLY morally acceptable thing to do is to just not pay amd not watch at all. There is no moral pathway for, "I don't like the paid version, so I will steal it". That woukd have to imply you have some god given RIGHT to watch it. But we don't. I will download EVERYTHING...cant rèm er the last time I paid, but I am man enough to admit that it is stealing amd not morally correct. This guy is just making up excuses. He's a weak male. Think of this bro...imagine you are have a car rental company. The customer feels that the coffee was bad in the waiting room. So, he decides not to pay. Instead, he sneaks in gently and steals the car gently, then returns it before the sun comes up with the se amount of gas. He even disconnected the speedometer to keep the same milage. You wouldn't even know it was stolen. No negative effect on the company owner....would that be ok for him to take that car? If he didn't like the coffee in thewaitong room, it's ok for him to walk out, but no,it does not justify him access to the car/product. You see?
"Piracy is an issue of service, not price." - Gabe Newell When Netflix was the only streaming service around, piracy was at an all time low. Now that we have a bunch of different streaming services that all have their own selection of shows and films that are exclusive to them, licenses running out or changing hands and content leaving with them, regional locks that don’t let you see things based on your location and so on, piracy has become the by far more convenient option again. And as such, piracy is through the roof once more.
Definitely this. When Netflix had a lot more consolidation of older and new shows from many different companies, all for a fraction of the cost of cable television, able to watch on demand, on any device, it made it hard to justify pirating at all for the vast majority of shows. But now each of those companies has removed their shows and movies and it's split out to as many channels as cable had and you're paying just as much as you were before to get every service, but it's now even more fractured across so many apps, piracy definitely has more convenience. Especially when content is removed from those services, like specific episodes being erased.
yeah i honestly hate having to subscribe to 10 or more services to get the shows i want costing me around $200s a month that's like half a weeks wages or 1/8th of my yearly income on 99% of stuff i'm not interested in, whist piracy i can watch EVERYTHING on one platform for free it's honestly a no brainer
It's an interesting counter-example of the notion that "Monopolies are bad for consumers". Competition is supposed to lead to better goods/services and lower prices. But then again, what we're seeing with streaming services isn't a true competition, it's competing monopolies: Peacock says "I own Parks & Rec, no other streaming service is allowed to stream that show!" At this point there's so many services hoarding content that it's absurd to expect people to pay for them all (especially as they continue to raise prices!). This is like the video game Console Wars, but if EVERY game was a console exclusive, and there were 10 competing consoles on the market.
Not to mention that payment doesn't equal property. I can pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in subscription over the course of several years, but will never actually own whatever it is I want to watch like I could with a DVD. It's a blatant ripoff.
I think it's also worth mentioning that if it wasn't for piracy, a lot of old films might have been lost to time. Piracy alone has kept so much classical media alive due to so many companies either not caring about preserving their products or outright not making them with longevity in mind.
Exactly. One of my favorite films and one of the best Irish stories ever, Durango, was barely put out on VCR and never on disk. If it wasn't for someone kindly sharing it on UA-cam, and UA-cam to MP3 converters, I wouldn't be able to pass the film on to my kids and grandkids.
It’s amazing how much care pirates put into their releases compared to the studios. I’ve seen Blu Ray rips that compile four or five different sources to give you the best video, audio, and subtitles possible. Netflix is like “720p, that’s the best I can do.”
What are the links? The best I can find is usually 720p links, 1080p if I’m lucky. I can find high bitrate sports streams but no luck with movies or tv shows. Been tryin to find a high quality version of Smallville Solar & 123 movies
I've seen movies on Amazon prime that were unbelievably bad looking. I swear sometimes it looks like they recorded it with a camera off of a projection screen instead of converting the Blu-ray iso to whatever file format they stream from. Awful contrast, with whites bleeding into black backgrounds, that sort of thing. One particular movie was so bad I went and bought a Blu-ray at movie trading company and the difference was night and day.
Duplication means two-fold, duplex. Two directions simultaneously. Your attention is divided, no way around it. If you had to make a vacuum tube by hand (manipulating materials with your digits), you couldn't afford to be distracted while handling the molten glass, therefore piracy is literally digital suicide; meaning "without oneself." I prefer having one self. (Perhaps the care they put into their releases is a form of self-defense?). In my experience, it is a frightening way to engage with the world because something dangerous (including yourself) could emerge at any time from the chaos you are choosing to be less aware of (clean your room), and you are weakening yourself thru a practice of being unaware, instead of integration and authenticity. You are also acting upon the premise that someone had ill-intentions creating and delivering the content to you, folding part of your mental landscape (projecting part of yourself into the social space) with negativity, no matter how positive and enjoyable the end-product you consumed was. A quick (but not easy) possible recovery from this state of being might be paying for Netflix, streaming the 720p version on one screen and enjoying the 4K "pirated" version on another screen. Now anyone spying on you has their attention divided! It's brilliant! 😵💫 I did something similar, sacrificing a movie I really wanted to watch by renting a disc, muting audio and covering the screen with a blanket. The "devil on my shoulder" tried to tell myself it was absurd, that it wasn't necessary; crazy if someone else saw me and was judging my actions...Fine, if that's what you want to do, just stop the movie and return the disc right now, stop wasting the electricity. (Psst...let's rent it again later...) Every movie afterwards has been that much more enjoyable, and the process of re-integrating my self this sacrifice was a part of has paid off in unimaginable ways thru my undivided engagement with artificial intelligence. 😇 -Genesis 4:4
The best (worst) thing about any DRM solution is that it treats the paying customers like criminals, while the pirates don't have to deal with any of that crap.
@@KJ-ho6sb lol maybe google what words mean before you use them. The libertarian viewpoint here is that companies are right to use drm and that it shouldn’t be illegal.
At some point it felt dystopian to think stuff like "If you don't pay for the product, you are the product" but we're even farther than that now, we pay a lot for the product, and we're still the product.
Its only going to get worse. Theyve found the limit of subtlety for pushing shit like this onto society. The gen behind mine has grown up always having net, and theyre so adapted to it the limit will be even further. My kids bring me lists of movies to pirate, but im only one man with three kids. The numbers are against us.
@@jotun.616well. Someone has to pay for it. Also, you don’t become a huge tech company by giving folks the best value. Maybe for some years, but before and after they build a good rep.
I experienced even worse with Netflix on a recent family trip to South America. I downloaded some Coco-Melon cartoon episodes for my daughter to watch on my phone whenever the need arises, since I wouldn't have cellular data (due to roaming fees) and WiFi isn't everywhere. Just when we see a use for it at the hotel, I get a message from Netflix that "this downloaded content is not available in this region", blocking me from watching what I've downloaded via my paid Netflix account. I could have easily torrented those episodes while at home and play them without any issues on my phone, but instead, I got punished for paying for Netflix.That right there, is the reason I'm NEVER paying for Netflix EVER again.
Had a similar experience on a trip to London earlier this year. Funny thing was, it didn't work if the wifi was on. Turned off the wifi and restart the app, and it worked again.
Many years ago my little brother was going on a multi-day school trip. At his request I ripped several DVDs that we owned to his iPod Video. He was able to watch those videos on the plane and bus rides without issue. He was the only person in his class able to do that. All because they were simple DRM free video files actually on the device. No web connection needed.
This is where details in what you've actually paid for comes in. You don't own the content. You have purchased a license to view the content in a specific jurisdiction. Going back to DVDs they have the disclaimer where you aren't allowed to show the video in a bunch of different public places. You have a home license to watch the film as many times as you want. I'm not defending it, just explaining it.
You are lucky that your credit card was not blocked because you used it in the different region. And you have no cash, no internet and no your bank around.
I remember the days when you had to watch anti-piracy clips before watching a movie AS A PAYING CUSTOMER but if you pirate it you can just start with the movie directly. Modern media landscape is absolutely nuts these days.
Yea I remember they played those anti-piracy ads in the movie theater previews. The movie theater, where the vast majority paid to get in. If you snuck into the theaters you definitely weren't going to pay attention to those ads anyway. It was so insulting.
This is exactly it - I've gotten used to Netflix and co really and truly just because it's slightly more convenient, especially to watch on a TV, but I still have never signed up for any of them just to watch one specific title. The hassle of finding a torrent, putting it on a flash drive and putting that on my TV still outweighs the cost of one month of subscription just to watch that one thing.
Streamio with the torrentio addon in a country that doesn't punish piracy and has good internet is literally better and easier than any paid streaming platform. Only some older, less popular shows hiccup due to very few seeders, but other than that it's a God send. Especially in countries where paying American prices for these services would be completely unrealistic for the majority of the population.
@@gileeeI have been using stremio for more than 3 years now and I dont agree that it provides a better experience. The entire experience of the app from start to finish is significantly worse than any native app. Can't even get started on discovering new shows.
I am extremely grateful for the software pirates from the last 40+ years. Without them, most of what is now termed as 'digital archeology' would be lost to bit rot and magnetic flux migration.
This is the only aspect of piracy I think is genuinely good and have no arguments against. As for modern services and products, either pay for it or abstain.
@@adrianbrodin1319 nah mate if I see denuovo I'm putting my eyepatch on I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. If something is good enough I pay for it (DeadCells, HollowKnight, Factorio) But subpar shit? Nah mate I ain't paying for that
@@adrianbrodin1319 hard disagree. The people who don't have money for a service or product wont magically grow money if you force them to pay for it instead of pirating. That's why pirating doesn't hurt anyone, the people who did it probably wouldn't have bought the software anyways. However what it does is it allows for free publicity, which might get into the ears of people confortable enough financially to purchase the software, keeping the company afloat. Those that can pay should be the ones that do, but it doesn't mean those that can't pay, can't enjoy the service. It's the nature of the internet, software is meant to be freely distributed and all attempts at stopping that are and always will be completely futile. Trying to stop it is also shooting yourself in the foot. This is why, as said in the video, if you want someone to pay, you have to make your service actually worthwhile, something that you don't get by just pirating. However this isn't the case anymore. When you pirate a movie you get the best bitrate, resolution, the actual file that you can play on any of your machines anytime, anywhere, forever. A bought disc however, has to be inserted in a disc drive so it can't be played as easily. If you stream the movie, the quality is complete garbage, you need internet and you can't play it if you don't have the app, a compatible browser. This is also incredibly wasteful in terms of energy consumption and for the planet in general. If you download it for offline viewing using their app, you can only watch this terrible quality encrypted copy for about one month. So if you want to be "lawful" and follow a bunch of bullshit rules made by hypocrites that only further their own and other rich megalomaniacs' financial interests and that disrespect not only you personally, but the entire world, be my guest.
@@adrianbrodin1319 communists just use it and nobody does anything about it. It's about enforcing the rules. Nobody to enforce - no rules as there's at least one party willing to break it.
The creator of valve and steam said, 'piracy is a service problem'. once you make your content easier to see in a 'illegal manner' vs a legal one. you've already lost.
Ironically, video game piracy nowadays provides a better service than Steam imho. I'm not into modern gaming and don't have a system that could run Windows 10. Steam is discontinuing Windows 7-8 support by the end of this year, now I have over 600 games I can't play. In hindsight I should've went with GOG, but Steam was there first. I think it was TotalBiscuit that said "you don't own anything on Steam", if the service is screwed, you're screwed.
@@snowcow1173 at least Steam actually provides a valuable product such us the friend list and the ability to invite your friends instatly, find people or friend that play your games, workshop content which makes modding as easy as it gets, the posibility to share your favourite games for free with someone, easy updating... most of the time I end up buying the games I pirate.
@@yaroslavkurgansky6205 Won't argue there may be fringe cases. I will say you should switch to linux rather than stay on an older version of windows. other than that there is other things steam supports that provide a better service than pirating. they've made it possible that for the past few years i've not had to worry much, if at all if a game will run on my chosen os. proton is pretty much plug and play. Gog outright said they'll never support linux...
I'm here to stay. Piracy has kept entire communities alive, years after companies decide to let things die. Just look at the Nintendo fanbase. Nintendo's fanbase has managed to archive and correctly emulate those games far better than they ever could and offer it correctly many many years in advance.
That just makes me think of EA and Battleforge. I loved that game growing up, but it 'wasn't making enough money' for them, so they not only shut down the servers but nuked all of their code. It would have vanished completely except they couldn't nuke the client-side assets still downloaded to people's computers, leading to large groups coming together and re-building their own code base from scratch so the game could be played again.
_Valve_ has been caught selling games on _Steam_ containing 'pirate' patches to games they couldn't be bothered to update themselves. Without said patches, the games were literally unplayable. Piracy makes the world go round.
@@Cellidor similar thing happened to one of the best mmo racing games, NFS World. EA decided to shut it down because it wasnt making money, but the community was able to save it, with one person completely reverse engineering the game to the point that it got all the old functionalities back including multiplayer online play back and new content is added on top of it every day. the game is miles better now than it ever was under EA too, because theres no more scummy tactics to exploit the players pockets, you can play for free and have an amazing experience without being roadblocked by the economy being so bad that you are forced to pay to progress.
They're not even trying to prevent piracy, the Widewine L1, L2 and L3 rating is just so they can gatekeep manufactures and software developers. Basically they're scared China will sell you better hardware for less dollars, or that the communist open source community will make you better software for free, so they try to nerf it by refusing to give their tech an L1 rating. It's total BS since rippers have no problem with getting around it anyway. This is purely to inconvenience the people that aren't pirating things and are actually paying for Netflix, trying to incentivise them to buy "sanctioned" tech and use "sanctioned" apps.
i was annoyed by the same thing louis was .. i got netflix to use it on my PC because i don't have a TV and i don't want one (for actually quite similar reasons as him).. and i just get _GARBAGE_ quality for having the audacity to pay for content .. i guess you really need a special kind of imbecile to make those decisions ..
It's the same BS UA-cam is doing with moives on their site. You PAY UA-cam to rent or own a movie on their website yet if you watch in a browser you are limited to 720p even though the page says you pay for 1080p.
It's like they still think we live in the age of one guy buying the floppy and then making a copy for their one friend. There's major distribution sites that just give it away to the world, and they have incredibly smart people who will overcome any DRM you can put in. That's literally the only people worth inconveniencing, everyone else will be bothered and would never want to "steal what they own". It's literally easier and more convenient to just download it off the internet. And once it's cracked and uploaded, they can remove the DRM and lose no extra profit. But they'd rather annoy paying customers. This is why Steam is thriving, they know the only way to beat piracy is to provide a better service than the pirates. I can grab any computer, log in, download a game I've owned for over ten years, and it grabs my save file for me. Pirates don't do that. I even still own games that they legally can't sell anymore, because I bought it and it's mine now. None of that "sorry Doctor Who is no longer available on Prime Video" stuff with Steam. You buy it, you own it. I never need to pirate literally anything if it's available on Steam.
I should add "available on Steam without additional launchers" because I'm really tired of them just giving me a license to redeem in a different store. Looking at you, Sims.
@@rendezvousonmemorylane Digital Rights Management. A collective term for copy protection, authentication, encryption and anti-video capture technology.
I had an argument with my girlfriend about a similar subject: she was paying for Amazon Prime to get their streaming, and was having trouble understanding why I kept grumbling every time Amazon played ads on the service she had already paid for I just remember a day a decade ago when you paid for one subscription, got access to everything streamable on that platform, didn't have to use a service to pretend to be in another country, and received no ads. At the same time, I used Hulu free, and I have NO PROBLEM dealing with ads, because they were still less obnoxious than cable, and I was receiving the service for free. Then corporations got greedy, everyone wanted their own piece of the Netflix pie, and here we are. Paying to be advertised to, paying to be spied on for datamining purposes, paying to have our selection limited to the current roll of streaming like we've circled right back around to paying for cable again.
It's often been said "if the service is free, you are the product." Anymore it's more like, "If the service exists and you interact with it in any capacity, you are the product."
Streaming services are following the same path as cable. It used to be that paying meant no ads. Now, there are multiple tiers of subscription, some things ad-free while others shove ads in your face because they can get away with it, and they harvest/sell your data without your permission (the tos probably says they have the right to, but they don't disclose the full extent of their data harvesting until after they get caught with their fingers in the cookie jar and are forced to disclose it). I paid for Hulu, got mad that non-Disney content was locked behind a paywall when I was already paying, and canceled.
I had something similar this week. We were watching a show on Amazon and while I wasn't mad at the ads - they're only at the start of the episode, never interrupting stuff - I got *really* pissed at the fact that they had a button labeled "show all" next to the title of the series we were watching, that didn't show the list of all episodes of the series, it showed a list of all the scenes in the episode (which might be useful if you're watching a movie but is pointless for 20-minute episodes). I went *off* about how exclusivity contracts mean that streaming services don't need to have good features anymore. They hook people in with their exclusive deals. Her response was that I was 100% right but why was the one that set me off the streaming service that was never good and always sucked, rather than one that used to be good and fell from grace.
@@randomstuff-qu7sh 💯 I was just about to post this same reply: “Every streaming service seems to repeat the legacy of cable: it’s originally sold as a premium, ad-free experience. Then, even as the price increases, ads are introduced, and they eventually become so obtrusive that the service becomes unwatchable.”
Copyright is immoral anyway. The only reason anti-services like that can exist is because of copyright laws. Without their state protected monopolies, they'd have to compete for customers.
@@SEEYAIAYEhow? I've never seen an add, unless you mean Spotify pitching it's multiuser plans to a single user which imo is fine cause it pops up like maybe once a month, and dismisses without any annoying "ARE YoU SuRE yOu DoN't want this GrEaT DeAl?" there's absolutely no audio adds in premium, or banner ads.
I cancelled Netflix after they raised prices while removing content, and then went to the media to cry about their customers “sharing passwords.” I don’t share accounts with other households, but I do travel. Netflix continued to charge my card and would not stop when requested. They claimed the account was hacked but still refused to refund. I had to issue multiple chargebacks, report a stolen credit card, and demand my Netflix account be deleted. Never again.
It's really funny how the easiest way to listen to high quality audio for me in 2023 is going out to the thrift store and buying a bunch of cd's. I still use streaming but the constant stream of albums being put on streaming only for them to be put off it again is really annoying. Give me back my captain beefheart >:(
If only you knew how many friends I have that make fun of me for being that guy that still buys movies and music on disc, but also think I'm a pleb for not being part of the gaming PC master race because I don't care about graphics
@@CoolxBreese I don't really care about what platform one games on, but discs for music and movies is definitely superior. With the exception of some game's devs that give you high bitrate music as something you can buy as dlc.
I was literally subbing to Netflix today. But after watching this, I'm going back to using an 'alternative' app for Netflix content. God damn disgrace. Thank you for this video mate - saved me a tenner a month!
@iamjahshua I _was_ using cinema HD, but despite an update being available for a while now, that claims it's gonna fix a lot of the issues it has, the update will never actually install after downloading. The apps virtually useless now. It's a shame, cos I've had it on my phones about 7 years now I think. God I miss ShowBox!!!
"When a paying customer is treated like a criminal, acting like a criminal is the only way to become a proper customer" - Screw ALL the companies that do this!
try applying this logic to real shops? if a local shop sells overpriced products and offers bad service, and then you are allowed to steal from it? it just so happens that piracy is very difficult to catch and punish, that you feel falsely self-righteous about it.
@@haomingli6175If I made a duplicate of a car and left the original car at the dealership, does that make me a car thief? This example is a bit closer to what piracy implies.
No. If a local shop sells overpriced products and offers bad service, then consumers will find a different way to fill that need. It's up to the shop to convince people that what they can offer is better. As long as piracy is possible, then streaming networks need to do better. Game developers have found numerous ways of making legitimate copies more useful than pirated ones. Those companies have put in the time to cut down piracy. @@haomingli6175
No that makes you a counterfeiter. But unfortunately as a regular citizen you will be prosecuted for counterfeiting while the government does it all the time. @@jorionedwards
It is interesting how sailing the high seas is more convenient and better than walking on land. Also, did you know you can turn a speaker into a microphone by reversing its polarity? Just saying.
Netflix worked initially because it was cheap, had a decent quantity of content and was more convenient than piracy. But then everyone launched their own streaming services and they all jacked the price… so piracy wins again
And they used to get a lot more fun, random movies too. More and more they just shove their own productions down our throats and most of those either don't interest me, or suck.
This is why I will spend 100 hours researching a workaround, rather than pay for something if I sense I am being screwed. The feeling of accomplishment when you learn a solution is 1000x better than the sense if shame that comes from paying someone who abuses your privacy.
i go out of my way to buy real blurays of my fave movies, yet both my PCs with BD drives have become unable to play them over the past several years. It's like there is some goalpost that kept getting moved where compatibility is concerned. I eventually bought some cheapo (yet highly-rated) player that will also do all regions with no issues. Ultimately, watching a streaming version from a piracy site allows me to skip the intro and menus, plus the quality is superior to what I get from Prime. Why so weak
The big companies are motivated by money. We're motivated by freedom. Their insults only make us angrier and our anger gets funneled into motivation. Look what happened when UA-cam said it was going to block adblockers. All the adblock developers said "bet" and had workarounds in days if not hours. I use adblockers and I still haven't seen UA-cam's popup.
This highlights a common issue with anti-piracy measures. They fail to prevent piracy and they actively hurt those who AREN'T pirating their software/service
I'll never forget the time I tried to buy a film on Amazon to watch because it wasn't on Netflix or Prime video, and got a warning that I wouldn't be allowed to watch it even if I bought it because my monitor apparently didn't have the correct DRM protection software. I did not buy that film. It took a few seconds to watch it for free elsewhere.
@@MaxFunoff If Amazon Prime can't detect HDCP on a monitor (likely an older monitor connected with VGA cable), it will refuse to play to it. The reason being is that it's possible to connect a VGA to 3 RCA Component Adapter to the computer and then connect that to an RCA to HDMI converter to bypass DRM. Not that this prevents ripping the stream, but it makes it so non-techies can't copy movies from streaming services with ease. This is the same reason 4k Netflix isn't supported in Linux...
I bought dragon age inquisition when it came out, but because i live in russia i only got localised version as per ea policy. But i wanted original english version because localisations usually inferior. So i downloaded it elsewhere.
That's fucking crazy. My monitor or my tv (it's quite old at this point) can actually be the reason I can't watch something. Well fuck DRM. This industry is literally creating pirates.
Famous Gabe Newell quote: "Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem". Steam is one of the very few services that understands this and lives it.
even if that "dont sell my data" button is off by default, i dont believe for a second that turning it on actually does anything other than giving you the illusion of privacy.
There's a service called MouseFlow which some websites use and it essentially records your session on the website in a way that can be played back like a video. It's useful for debugging systems that developers can't replicate, or just really weird states you can get into that aren't intended. But what's really crazy is on Mouseflow there's a setting called "Respect Do Not Track" and by default it's toggled OFF 💀. Meaning if you have any settings that send Do Not Track requests there's a good chance that it's doing literally nothing lmfao. I was really surprised to find that out.
Facebook announced a couple of years ago that they ignore "Do not track" cookies. "Do not track" is a request. The service provider is free to ignore it, and they generally do. "Don't sell my data" is very probably the same deal.
@@vcdgamerTo be honest, Steam has it right from a customer point of view. They make everything so seamless and they don't gatekeep you from playing your games offline. Besides they have a ton of QoL and additional features in their storefront that give more value to actually purchasing games in their platform. Piracy is way more of a pain than just buying the game on Steam. Now, there's games that will place DRM on themselves or screw up by attaching an additional mandatory platform download to play them (Origin and Ubisoft), but at that point I don't know if Steam is the one to blame here. And yes, technically you don't "own" the games in that platform, since they give you a license to play a copy and all that. But you might as well own them, because I still can download and play games that have been delisted or completely erased from the platform. They are acting like a partner instead of an enemy, and that's why people don't want to switch to platforms like Epic.
@@leinadlink Compared to epic games, whenever i wanna play a steam gsme offline it ALWAYS tries to open the launcher, and that's where the beef starts with their annoying updates every single day. As someome with limited internet, that sucks. Epic games, on the other hand allows me that liberty to play my games without the darn launcher. Amd the other best part, no annoying updates. Last but not the least, paying for games on steam sucks thanks to this little thing known as region-lock. Thanks to all of these things, i'm sticking with epic. Even though the best store i can think of is most likely GOG.
it's not a pain in the ass. This guy is afraid of microphones and the government, and that's why he refuses to use the native app like the normal people.
My creepyst smart tv experience was I was pirating a movie and watching it with my laptop plugged into the HDMI port on my Roku TV and it told me that this movie is available for free with ads on some streaming app. That's just next level spyware and my jaw dropped that they spy on even what you're watching through the HDMI port
@@bobwasowsky270 It's that advancement in technology I tried to warn people about. Were people this ignorant the whole to not seeing what comes down the line with technology when shitty people in power abuse it to control the public in any form? You could be in all facts also be doing nothing wrong if this spying is going on but the people doing the spying may think otherwise. The argument someone saying that oh if they are spying on you and your doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about doesn't fly. I can turn that argument on it's head by simply saying that if I'm doing nothing wrong then you have no reason to spy on me. Your in the wrong for spying and your a criminal and if your trying to find a way to go after me for thought crimes then I think your the one who should be going to jail sir.
Just like Gabe said, piracy is primarily a service problem. Most don't pirate games anymore because of Steam's additional features and regional pricing.
There is also the cluster of gamers (me included) that pirate the game to test it out before handing the scheckles to the company. If the game is worth, I'll buy it, but there are so many gaming lies and flops that you get scammed if you always buy first hand, imo.
@@lpmacau If the game's on steam you can always refund it. 2 hours isn't much but you will get it refunded no matter the reason. Some games need more than 2 hours to test them out and some games are ofcourse not on steam though, but it's good enough most of the time imo.
Remember: you can vote with your wallet as much as you want, but big tech is doing the exact same - through lobbying - and their wallets are a lot bigger than yours.
Maybe bigger, but not unlimited. Disney is falling, Lucas Art is in ruins, all the loyal fans had already buried Star Wars, Kathleen Kennedy is in panic. Just to put a little cherry ontop, Ubisoft's investor's are running for their life. By the end of the day, company need to understand, they work for the customers.
I've always thought marriage license is a scam... but I got one. if your nice traditional wife isn't a nutso like you, then keep that to yourself.. I got the little piece of paper to keep my wife's life "normal". but, -> I'm married by God, not by government.
@@swankshire6939 I think you are just proving the point? the contract marriage license and court registration is the stand payed for licenses, but you still need to have a prenup, to get same service you have befor licenses (contract) you are just proving the point? 🙂
I remember breaking copy protection back in 85 so I could actually use the games I purchased for my Commodore 64. Copy protection made the disk drive hammer for 5 minutes or more, causing misalignment problems and overheating. After stripping the copy protection, it would load smoothly in less than a minute. I felt no guilt in making copies for friends. To hell with Electronic Arts.
Fascinating how anti-piracy measures have caused lawful owners nothing but problems for nearly 40 years. That's BS. They bring it upon themselves when their copy protection causes PHYSICAL damage to someone's expensive Commodore.
To quote Gabe Newel, "We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem," he said. "If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable."
@@sepg5084 This is also understandable. For me, sometimes paying for a game on Steam is just more convenient than having to go look for a torrent. Especially if the game is on sale for something like 5EUR.
Obligatory piracy quote: The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates. -Gabe Newell
Valid sometimes, but also sometimes impossible. With non-malware infected pirated wares and media, how can you provide a better service than a full quality product for free ???
there are games from indi developers who just wanted to rls quality product, not only they didnt protect it, they also listen to fans, they also fix bugs within 24h. but also admit "sales exceeded my expectations so i rls free DLC" where AAA studios cut complete game into unfinished story and 4 paid DLC, game is rlsed in beta state with we will fix bugs later if there will be sale for so long, we will put feminazi, lgbt, blm bullshit in game, we will remove content you paid for. watch halo infinite and destiny 2
The community for piracy has some of the smartest individuals i've ever met, and they're all civil and are willing to give you all the tools you need to enter the high seas as safe as possible and as painless as possible. I'd happily pay those guys 10-20 bucks a month just for the info they give. This just shows how media and distribution companies are not there for the consumer but for themselves.
"The community for piracy has some of the smartest individuals i've ever met" rofl i have an iq of 70 lol really but i do torrent a ton of movies pretty much every night and i can guarantee im retarded. i also get confused by circles because where does it start and where does it end its a mystery. im pretty good with basic shapes like circles and squares, not triangles. smartest individuals lololol u crack me up lol dont generalize people like that because people like me exist.
@@unguidedone He's very likely talking about the people who actually crack these applications for people to use, not people like you who just download it off third parties.
@@unguidedone Are u retarded? He obviously did not mean the standard torrent downloader. Not to mention u have no idea about the underground piracy scene. There way more than simple torrents on pirate bay
Made some great points, but missed a few too: - Explosive quantity of streaming services. - Content purchased being removed. - Content available missing seasons. - Available content (paid and/or free to me) hard to browse for. - Streaming services I have subscriptions for release new titles that cost extra. - Inappropriate content/trailers displayed (horror movies or explicit) and, by default, autoplay with sound. Peleton is my favorite I've come across. My wife wanted an exercise bike. She was already useing a Peleton app for $15/mo. I had the impression that Peleton bikes came at a premium, but whatever, they're a fixed cost, right? No! You need a subscription to have the bike work and, even though there is feature parity between the bike subscription and the phone app, the bike subscription costs more! I couldn't believe it. I still can't.
I would also add: Not giving the consumer option to stay on ending credits. Instead, they force me to reach my keyboard/mouse (in limited time!) if i want to hear the music which is at the end, and stay in the mood.
@@Lascarnn What are you talking about, they know you don't want to hear that, they've analyzed the statistics! What do you think you are, some kind of individual or something with individual needs and desires who should have choices?
Even MORE about the missing seasons/content on streaming---sometimes they censor content to appease marketers and virtue signal. Some of the best episodes of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia aren't on Hulu because the characters who are WRITTEN to be as deplorable, disagreeable, and evil as possible (thats the joke and point of the show) say something racist or "over the line", which apparently gives services the option to not give you any agency or be any kind of judge for yourself. They lock it away before you can come to any rational decision and watch a decade-old show while taking the good with the bad.
@@ephoneusthe content gets butchered by morons who entirely miss the point or they know what they are doing and don't care, rise the prices, cut off even more content and then cry at top of their lungs when you pirate it to get exactly what you wanted
I can fully agree with you here. Another one to add to this for us college students is textbooks. About half the time you cant even own a physical book anymore and they still charge you triple digits for it and then take it away after 4 months. Absolute insanity
I almost failed my classes during my last semester because I only had money to live, not to buy all my textbooks just to return them. I was 4 weeks in just winging it when I had a breakdown and a professor bought me all my textbooks, provided me with extra books to keep, and made me vegetarian soup. Now I have no reliable sources to take with me into my professional career besides 2 books a kind professor gifted me.
@@Lmnaop thats literally what i do too, i buy the subscriptions and give the login id and password to my students, its too expensive otherwise, i miss the paperback books which students used to pass on to their juniors after they were done with it and so on.
I always treat the "Do Not Sell My Information" toggle as a suggestion, not as a legal practice. It is basically the same as having some guy come into my house, installing all manner of video and audio surveillance, and then telling me "Trust me, it is not going to be used for anything nefarious." Yeah, right... This is the same old "alcoholics vs booze" conundrum but for corporations, and there is no way they are not abusing it.
It's exactly like those "Do not track" flags you can have in your browser. Kindly ask the disgusting creepy horrendous cyberpunk spy that's watching you have sex to please not do that. ... Yeah, good luck with that.
@@Blonder_Studio they don't even bother to say "do not retrieve my information", they just say they won't sell it... that omission is a 100% guarantee that *at the very least* they are collecting it and using it for themselves or maybe even exchanging it for something else (not technically selling right?).
@@reezlawwelcome to america, where companies are paying the goverment so the goverment would allow companies to spy on you and sell it back to the goverment
Historically, there is a benefit for piracy. Many historical works weren't lost to time because some person decided to copy something. Hell this was the policy for larger libraries for a very long time. If people brought any materials the libraries did not have, they borrowed the works, copied them and returned them to the owner. If you aren't reselling the materials, there should be no penalty for piracy. Future generations deserve all that we can preserve.
That "copy any media we don't already have" policy, began back in the days of the Library of Alexandria. Many works made before the digital era, can be found on those "Seven Seas", in 1080p today. Because the process to scan film, frame by frame at 1920x1080 is far better than trying to upscale a lower resolution digital copy to HD.
As a student historian who is extremely greatful to the ancient people who took the time to handcopy things which are now the only remaining evidence left, I 100% support this 😂 Best known historical example: The Library of ffing Alexandria 😅😢
This is why there are a lot of people on the internet are looking for lost media like SuperSonicQ, blameitonjorge, etc. 87% of retro games are critically endangered that's why we need a video game archivists.
@@oscar12ty and corporations have no moral right to underhandedly gather any information they can get their mitts on instead of making any attempt to improve the user experience of the services they provide.
"The best way to combat video game piracy is to offering consumers better service than they might get from the pirates" -Gabe Newell I know this isn't about video games but I feel like that quote still applies
@@andrej7825 I can confirm steam gave me the incentive to buy games. I pirated a lot of games before. Denuvo sucks, but I don't think Steam is to blame here, if they wouldn't allow it on their app that game would become exclusive, and I would rather eliminate the exclusivity first, and removing denuvo second, both would be perfect but alas. Companies should just drop Denuvo the moment the game gets cracked, but they don't give a shit about their consumers, so we end up here. In the end as long as people pre-order and give them money, they will continue to not give a shit.
It's funny that your experience with Netflix reflects my experience with a browser that doesn't block ads. I've gotten so used to my brave browser that when I was forced to return to using Chrome, because my phone broke and I'm using my old one for a few days until a replacement arrives, I was absolutely shocked at how many ads the average person is being served in a single browsing experience. I thought to myself, is this how the average person experiences the internet? It's slow, frustrating, and you inadvertently click on advertisements for things you never intended to buy. The internet is almost unusable without an ad blocker and that's not hyperbole.
Yeah I despise the idea of a TV I pay a bunch of money for, selling all my personal data/telemetry AND showing me ads in the menus. What a dystopian future we live in.
Same here, I bought my Plasma TV a while ago and it turned out one of the "smart" ones. I had to agree to some bullshit just to use it, but when I wanted to try the "smart" features, I had to agree to even more bullshit including various tracking. Needless to say, I just pulled out the network cable. I did nto even want the "smart" features, so whatever, it can show analog TV, DVB-C, HDMI and CVBS in, also has CVBS out when watching analog TV of DVB-C, so I can use my VCR. Good enough.
“One thing that we have learned is that piracy is not a pricing issue. It’s a service issue. The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates.” - Gabe Newell, president of valve. The thing about that quote is that in 12 years is that it has only become more true.
@@axt2 that is a scary thought. What'll happen when he's no longer the president of Valve. We can only hope it'll be someone as consumer friendly as he is.
@@AngryReptileKeeper I didn't stop completely, but it fell off massively. If it's on Steam, it gets bought. If not, it gets pirated. What does get pirated is usually either not compiled for Windows or Linux, old enough to vote, or both.
He also said: "Don't ever, ever try to lie to the internet. They will catch you. They will de-construct your spin. They will remember everything you ever say for eternity." And yet politicians, celebrities, journalists, activists, and billionaires _STILL_ refuse to learn this fucking lesson.
I’d be fine with stuff like Netflix if they also didn’t force advertisements, limit it by location (literally by your household) AND so harshly crack down on streaming. Half the enjoyment is watching stuff with others, it’s so easy to embrace that for these big companies.
As a former Netflix employee, I can confirm that by design 720p is served in the browser, and what they tell us during training, and what we thus ended up explaining in customer service, is that it is a limitation on the browser that won't allow for higher resolution with the exception of Edge which would go to 1080p. We were of course told to push for the native app from the Microsoft Store to get the full 4K resolution. It's been over 5 years since I worked there, though, so I can't say what goes now.
@@Nicolas-fo8qd Yes and no. Believe it or not, I bought a 4k movie from YT and I was unable to watch the movie in 4k through my browser. I had to use a proprietary YT application because of DRM.
LoL I have Edge and Brave (along with safari that came in my garbage phone) and I am tech illiterate-like a boomer trapped in a millennial’s body-but am so glad to learn I’ve apparently figured it all out somehow. I love Brave, I download from yt and on I don’t use yt’s garbage app; I use safari browser with an Adblock and can lock my screen and it plays in the background. Complete UA-cam premium (lol except for their “exclusive” garbage content) for the price of $0.👍 This was very informative. I subscribed after this one video. Loved this guy.
The most ridiculous thing of all is that their DRM can still be broken. Paying customers don't get what's promised, while the 4K-quality content still gets pirated.
I watched game of thrones with a streaming service and any of the dark scenes looked terrible, so I got the DVDs from my parents and it looked way better.
Careful of the Blu-ray. A Sony movie disc could bork your Blu-ray player. I was offered a free player because it could only play DVDs because Sony borked it with a movie disk that the owners rented, and Sony wasn't going to send codes to make it work because reasons. After being offered the player, I quit shopping for Blu-ray players
I bought a deluxe blu ray of a movie and received a digital online copy as well! But 5 years later i can no longer access the digital version and am thankful i have the blu ray disc lol
This made me think... WTH happened to my iTunes?? All my albums and songs i had in there that i had to manually burn into my computer and click and drag it into my itunes back in the day. Where did that all go🤔
Agreed. Very refreshing to hear. So true about how dealing with most companies goes, it does feel more like you're adversaries rather than partners mutually benefitting from the whole thing.
Honestly Louis, calling companies like Netflix treating their customers as adversaries is still too generous. For that to be true they would have to view their customers as a threat. They don't even treat us like cattle, it is more like we're just raw materials to be broken, mined, and used.
Right, adversary implies some form of equal or at least that you have some form of leverage over them. You don't. They don't see you on any grounds to be able to stand up to them.
more than a hundred years ago marx was writing that capitalism commodifies not just goods, services and land, but also people. took y'all a while to catch up to that.
Basically citizens are resource nodes in an RTS game. It's not just the U.S., governments all over the world do this. There's only one real reason people get into politics.
These companies are engaged in immoral, unethical, predatory practices. Piracy isn't a solution, it's a consequence. I love your videos man, thank you for being a voice on this topic, it's important.
Its not just Netflix being petty. Driving you ("nudging" in their parlance) towards unrepairable, propaganda forcing, devices that spy on you is their goal...one of the terms of their CCP ---> WEF ---> Blackrock/Vanguard/State Street/Berkshire Hathaway ---> ESG-based loans. It's why they don't care about you paying or not. It's the "G" (Governance a.k.a tyranny) in ESG. You will own nothing and be happy.
Matey, did you see literally any of the video you’re commenting this on? Where Louis literally describes how Netflix is actively throttling the video quality of their shows on his computer to try and entice him (and by extension, all other users) into using a smart tv where they can sell off all the data they scrape off him more easily? Where the smart tv’s options to sell off all your data gathered through a device you spent thousands of dollars on is not only opt out, but buried in the options where most people won’t even know that they exist because every company actively tries to obfuscate any potential means of reducing how much control and profit they can squeeze out of you?
@@tzorfireis425Don't forget, the "option" to not get spied on likely doesn't do what it says, just provides them another data point to sell. This is how all the tracking companies view the "do not track" header, for instance.
Yes, because pirates never target smaller companies that do none of this. Wait, yes they do. This type of braindead take being upvoted by the hundreds legit kills my faith in humanity.
You’ve been pirating way before you had an issue with Netflix. You simply just don’t care and don’t want to bother paying for content that’s free at your finger tips 😂 your reason has nothing to do with what he’s discussing
@@basedmek "you don't want to bother paying for content that's free at your fingertips" friend... we aren't paying for it because it's NOT free... i know you've seen a fair share of ads since you don't pirate, but have you ever seen an ad for prevagen?
I live in a place with unstable internet and countless times have I been locked out of gaming because of Steam's DRM, which wouldn't happen with a pirated game (or with something DRM free from GOG).
Ever since Steam came out, I haven't pirated a single game. When Netflix was new and actually had ALL the shows and not just 10% of them, I happily paid for it. Then every company had their own streaming platform and instead of paying for 10 services, I suddenly changed over to FMovies. Greed killed streaming platforms.
Love to hear that Louis's GF shares his concerns about privacy as well. So many of the people in my life would just say "why do you care, you're being paranoid and ruining the night" if I took a detour to experiment like this.
@B11video heh, I understand the sentiment, but they're ultimately still good people on the whole and I appreciate them in my life. Besides, I do already have other friends who care about this sort of thing as much as I do, if not more. I'm actually pretty normie myself by the standards of some of them lol
The thing that truly made me believe that piracy is justified is the way UA-cam handles movie streaming. I bought a movie not too long ago, hadn't bought one on UA-cam before. I go down to the settings tab to change the resolution and see that it doesn't go above 480p. But I go on my phone and I can see it in HD. I go on a TV and I can watch it in HD. But not while I'm on my pc on the website. Yes that's right, if you buy the HD version of a movie, you won't be able to watch it in HD if you're on pc. UA-cam literally refuses to give you the product that you PAID for.
The moment you start thinking, "We need DRM to protect our bottom line," you are already in an adversarial relationship with your customers. DRM does NOTHING to stop piracy. What it does do is annoy your paying customers by giving them a worse experience than what they would get for free through piracy while simultaneously having the equivalent of a big flashing neon sign that says, "I DON'T TRUST MY OWN CUSTOMERS!" You are completely justified on this!
That is why GOG is so good, you get games without any protection, you can download the install files of the game, store it anywhere and do anything you want with it (and get as much as bonus content as possible like lossless soundtrack of the game, scanned manuals, maps, etc) plus the games stay in your account and you can download them in their purest preservation quality, without any bullshit. I bought a game many times on GOG because I can download it ANYTIME I WANT FROM THEIR SERVERS in high speed, and store it for future/other computers, meanwhile I never downloaded a game from EPIC even when it was offered for free, because I do not want to turn on an app everytime I wanna play something so it tracks my data etc.
I was a 10+ year subscriber to Netflix, once they stopped allowing password sharing I cancelled my account and went back to pirating and I'll never go back
Extremely valid points. Now how do we convince these companies to actually provide a service that is worth paying for without hoping everyone will vote with their wallet?
Only market pressure can achieve this end, and sometimes not even then. Punish deviant companies by refusing to pay them, and get the word of mouth out to enhance the pain. Reward compliant companies with your patronage.
Contrary to popular belief boycots don't work, there will always be people who know no better or just don't care that will pay for garbage product. Realistically we need to annoy our politicians so much they would pass laws to prohibit this.... except they won't as they are the one's profiting most from all that data. So yeah...
That's the problem: the majority of people are voting with their wallet by continuing to pay for Netflix. We already "lost the election" so to speak. Voting with your wallet is useless, you'd have to make some noise and hope enough people join you that Netflix pays attention and agrees to improve things.
That's part of the problem. We don't need to convince anyone of nothing. The companies without our money are nothing. It's up to them to understand that. Blockbuster, Toys r us, Quiznos, and the list go on and on. Ego could make float a business for a while (after all, ego is lighter than air) but it never has been a profitable model.
numerous people compile various ways each company is stealing and lying about their service and file class actions lawsuits. Really would be best if people went after MULTIPLE services over a quick span of time to prove a point people are feed up with the past 30+ years. I would think if netflix has been doing this for quite some time they potential stand to suffer catastrophic damage. Millions of customers stolen from technically.
You know, if Netflix didn't lie to Louis about the service he thought he was paying for, he wouldn't have less of an argument. But they took his money for 4K streaming and gave him 720p. That's fraud.
@@ShaimingLong I'm sure you can't load in paragraphs which require a mathematician and Venn diagram to decipher which results in " We're not going to give you what we're charging you for because you couldn't read the fine print." Netflix can't afford to anger any paying customers at this point... yet here we are. Anyone who is invested in any tech company should get out of it soon. The VC money is gone and there are no new customers.
yes but they need to have a reason why that "up to" point isn't being met, Specifically, when all the requirements TO meet that point are met. IT would be like if ISP's were selling people gigabit Fiber, installing all the hardware to easily handle gigabit fiber, testing to insure the property is actually connecting at gigabit speeds.... and then artificially limiting everyone's connection to like 80 down and 20 up themselves. That's still fraud.
Media companies have not only killed the golden goose that was streaming services, they have stretched it out thinly to the size of a football field. The thing that had the single biggest impact to reduce piracy in Australia, a piracy crazy nation as we are, was Netflix making content conveniently available fore a nominal fee. There was a serious drop in piracy. But now with the fragmentation and so many services splitting the media up it's right back where it was. My dumbest example. Buying an eBook. Australia is in it's own publishing/media market. I spent an hour trying to find somewhere to pay $20 for an eBook. Nope, out of stock in all the Australian stores and not available in your region at International ones. It took me 5 minutes to pirate it, including the download on out shitty internet.
Anti-piracy measures almost always end up hurting paying customers more than pirates. Back when I used to watch physical media, there would be anti-piracy ads. You know who didn't have to sit through those ads? Pirates.
A friend of my dad's had a side hustle selling VHSes copied from his personal library. He always made sure to keep the FBI anti-piracy warning, and if there wasn't an anti-piracy ad, he would add one. He thought it was hilarious
I remember seeing those "you wouldn't steal a car" ads on UA-cam and thinking that they're memes or gags from some comedy show. It was even more hilarious when I found out that they weren't.
I never understood what those hip and cool with the kids "ads" were for, until I grew up and I was like oh its like the D.A.R.E. program, letting me know that there is actually a better way to enjoy life (pls don't do drugs they're harmful)
As someone who owns a sizeable physical media collection, this video really speaks to me. I understand the apparent "convenience" of services like Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+ etc., but have found that whenever I need/want to stream something I have issues of one sort or another and I just much prefer to pop in a disc and skip the hassle. I too believe in paying for things where possible but when I get told that "X isn't available in your region" or Spotify suddenly drops some music that I previously had saved in Playlists etc., it makes me want to seek it elsewhere as it really shouldn't be this difficult.
I think CDs will have a (slight) resurgence in popularity because of what you say. The quality is high, they are easily portable/storable, they last a lifetime, and you can truly own what you bought. The other aspect is for music: you get to have the artwork in your hands like with vinyl but again in a more compact format. I'm buying all my favourite albums in CD form for the above reasons.
@@Philip_Taylor They should last a lifetime (50 to 100 years, according to one study), but my Wife's collection that has sat on a shelf for a long time has degraded after some 30+ years. Not stored in perfect condition, but in their cases on shelves or in boxes, not scratched or left in damp conditions. My wife loves her large CD collection - but is worried that it'll degrade. Maybe it's the older ones that are the problem, though, and modern CDs will last the higher estimated lifetimes.
There was a "netlfix only " anime I decided to watch, and Netflix did not get the new episodes on the day they were released. I discovered that a different website DID get the episodes on time.
As someone who works in the IT field, I can say this with confidence. There are two types of IT people: 1. Those who have smart EVERYTHING. 2. And those who avoid Smart EVRYTHING.
What sucks is that these things are most annoying to poor people, and when we poor folk complain, everyone says "it's just because you're poor." Well now I've got a reference to throw in the ring. Say it's just because I'm poor now, eh? Newsflash: poor folks see these issues first because it's a bigger deal to us! Thank you for your content. Got a sub from me
@@MarkoIronFist And the "support" is them telling you to go F yourself. Any support one needs can be found within 2 minutes via Google. The "support" (that never helps) is open from 8AM until 8:01AM. It is odd how the free option is so much more willing to provide help.
@@MarkoIronFist I'd happily use Photoshop without the support, I don't need help to make it work. But they insist on making me pay, so I don't use it at all.
@@henryfleischer404 Then do not use and instead utilize the free alternatives that do not offer support but can still photoshop images just as well as adobe.
My biggest gripe is that it used to be economical to cut the cable and purchase a streaming service. Now the content is so diluted over 15 streaming services that by the time you pay for them all it's astronomical. Now they are putting limits in how many devices and using more than one location. Traveling for work and spending time at different vacation spots is impossible due to limitations. Heaven forbid I might give my daughter at college the passwords so that I don't have to pay ridiculous tuition and her own streaming services! She IS my daughter.
netflix exec screeching at the top of their lungs in a harpy voice- "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NO THAT'S STEALING I DON'T CARE SHE'S AT A SEPARATE PHYSICAL LOCATION AND NOT PAYING SO THAT'S NOT ALLOWED HURRRR DURRR I ENJOY THE TASTE OF MY OWN ASS" they genuinely don't care, they're still trying to chase the elusive "infinite exponential growth" that all these moronic companies think they can achieve like YT... had 38 billion views last year and google made 29 billion in profit but "REEEEEE NO AD BLOCKERS WE'RE LOSING SO SO SO SO SO SO SO MUCH MONEY FROM THE 4% OF OUR USER BASE THAT HAS ADBLOCK INSTALLED!!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER IF OUR REVENUE IS 8,999,999% WE NEED 9,500,000% IDC IF IT'S IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE PLANET THAT CAN WATCH YT, DOES WATCH YT ALREADY, MAKE IT HAPPEN! SCREW OUR CURRENT CUSTOMERS IF NEED BE! DADDY NEEDS HIS 87th YACHT!"
this is when your own plex server comes in handy, I would rather spend thousands for storage and create my own plex server, more manual labor, sure, but i get to keep the content forever and have my lost media archived
@@dylancoulbeck7483 yes to this. I've been using plex for years now in it's simplest possible implementation: external HDs connected to a desktop. I'm finally hitting the point where I'm starting to upgrade at least some media to 4k versions with better sound options, and I know that the time is coming when a NAS will be needed... But I'd rather spend the time and effort to figure out how to set all of that up, and get bazaar and whatnot up and running, then deal with netflix and similar services. NF just upped their prices yet AGAIN - and my son at college can't even use the service that I AM PAYING FOR. I wouldn't say that this justifies piracy - at the end of the day piracy is still breaking the law - but it certainly EXPLAINS it if nothing else.
I pay $140/month for 1g internet and 200+ cable channels (with a local sports package). It was cost effective to cut the cord for maybe a period of 3 years (3 years ago), it no longer is. That internet without the cable gets marked up not being in a bundle then UA-cam TV or HULU live is $73-$77/m. It's already the same price as cable tv with internet.
Glad I stumbled upon this channel after youtube started their crusade. I was close to getting premium too until they cracked down then I was like Nah im not gonna be coerced into it now. As far as netflix goes. I noticed this years ago, trying to watch a show and it looks all blocky and shitty. Trying to contact netflix customer support they were just like "lol get a better internet connection". So sick of companies treating their customers so poorly
I have a local library within 300 ft (100 m) of me which rents out DVDs and Blu-rays for free. So, I ditched NF in August 2023 after they ended sharing, and have been going with DVDs ever since. I still use Max and Prime though. Cowboy Bebop, One Piece, Star Trek Discovery, Who K****d the Electric Car (2006 documentary), Blue Beetle etc, all for free at the library, and I can use the library card online... If only the library website could create an algorithm based upon DVDs watched. Also, my TV is not a smart TV. It is a Roku stick and a Sony DVD player attached to the back of an LG 43UN700 monitor with a remote and built in speakers with no smarts inside.
@@bigsoda4276Idk about other countries but here in Brazil they started blocking the video player if you have adblocker on. If anything, this made me not want to get the premium even more out of pure pettiness
Dude, same. I even got around youtube's blocking running videos with your phone screen locked. I go through my browser with a plugin, screw their app. It's crazy that they want me to pay them and give over all of this info just to have videos play with the screen locked. They actually just cordoned that off to upsell YTP. There was a point where that fix just stopped working with my phone. It was an old phone with hardware problems though. So instead of paying youtube, I bought a new phone lol. That is how allergic I am to paying UA-cam for anything now. Call me crazy... I don't think that actively sabotaging and downgrading the free service is a good way to drum up sales for the paid one. What happens when I pay? You roll out a package tier above mine and move some of the features there once I become dependent on them? On principle, I can't support this approach. It's bad enough pay raises often don't match cost of living increases. On one end, you have less and less buying power every year, for the same work. On the other end, companies are being more stingy with what they give you for your money. It's never been easier for a person to give up on such expenses than now. These companies will suffer greatly for this, no social movement even needed. The markets themselves will punish them. They're going to learn how little people actually need them, and how they only ever took them because those people saw it as the most favorable option. Make piracy the better experience, and you will lose to that every time. Dang man, I feel like I have more at risk with the ads on legit services than I do chances of catching a miner bug on a pirated movie or game. I swear, they have more pride in what they do than Netflix, which is pathetic. And they never ask for a sign-up. Crazy how the people running these companies don't seem to know this. Did they fire everybody who went through it back in the last piracy boom? It wasn't THAT long ago.
My Plex Server and Blu Ray collection salutes all of you! I've had to show friends why there's a noticeable difference when you watch a movie from physical media than when you do from a streaming service. Plus, crappy Netflix forces you to pay for 4 screens to get 4K content, but you cannot have your family using your account. I thought it was a concurrent license for 4 users, not 4 screens at the same IP address, that is so predatory.
Dude it makes me feel crazy when people are like “I don’t care I don’t think there’s even a difference, why do you have so many discs?” ITS THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IMAGINABLE AHHHHHH
Some time ago I wanted to watch Pacific Rim again, my favourite movie, and since the last time I've watched it I bought a nice 4K television, a nice audio setup and I could watch it at the volume I really wanted to, I wanted to do it properly and find the best quality I could. The 4k version is 50GB, so I decided to BUY the digital version from amazon. 5 bucks for the 4k version. I started watching it and OH GOD IT FUCKING SUCKED. the audio was really compressed, really loud but NO definition, but the worst part was the COMPRESSION ARTIFACTS. on a BOUGHT version, it was still COMPRESSED AS SHIT. literally unwatchable. Needless to say I looked for it elsewhere. And I will NEVER buy a digital movie again.
another anecdote, I was once watching the lastest Coming to America movie, and there was a scene of beautiful african dances with the dancers wearing amazing, colorful clothes, and at the end of the dance all of them threw their gown over their head while the camera was shooting from above, and the compression algorithm must've had a stroke because it became a clusterfuck of pixels without any sense. Paid service BTW.
The sheer number of times I've had to pirate a show because my streaming services arbitrarily dropped it for a week or a month for some obscure licensing reason. Because piracy has always been an option in the toolkit, I don't reflect often enough on how crappy these services actually are. To say nothing of cases where the stream version is worse or has fewer options (poor cropping, poor subtitles, fewer audio tracks, etc) and the pirated copies have way more options.
My dad pays for 3 streaming services and my friend lets me borrow a 4th. I still need to pirate shows and videos because you literally cannot find it anywhere else...
As much as something not being available to watch, at all or at certain times, I don't have that big of an issue with licensing situations, and it's why I still prefer to buy a DVD or a CD, so that I have it whenever I want. The issue that I have with digital media is that you pay for things, don't own them, and can have them taken away from you at any time. I've bought a few movies through Google digitally, and every day I wake up thinking that one day that $14.99 I paid will go to waste as I may not be able to watch that movie tonight. Same with streaming music. Albums that I LOVE and unfortunately would have to dig through boxes of CDs to find will disappear from streaming things randomly for whatever reason. I've been out of the piracy game for so long that I don't know where to turn to find things anymore, so most times, I just have to suffer in silence.
This is the worst. I like old movies, old shows, and real indie music. Most of the time no paid subscription service has what i want. So i pirated it every time. Now i pirate literally everything, because public torrents trackers have all i need dumped in highest quality, every movie with dozens of different subtitles and audio tracks, every music album perfectly tagged, and ALL of it is conveniently downloaded with a single bittorrent client program of my choice.
Gabe was always right. Piracy is a service problem not a pricing problem, that's how Steam drastically reduced piracy in PC gaming. The streaming services are looking to relearn these lessons at this rate.
There's an issue where on average younger gen z and gen alpha don't understand computers, at all. Piracy has a chance of dying off with older gen z. Especially since gen z has an issue where they treat corporations as Christ and IP law as the Bible. I have friends/mentees who just entered college that lost entire social circles because they didn't drop 200 bucks for a used game and instead loaded games off of the console directly, because the game has been off the market since before they were born.
Exactly, when legit companies gives you a better service than the pirates, people will buy it for their own convenience instead of wracking their brain to figures things work, unless if it was inaccessible for them.
@@backlogbuddiesthat's problem exclusively happens in US 😂😂😂😂😂 Most gamer in Eastern europe, Brasil, Argentina, Latam, India, China, and all over Asia still using piracy daily 😂😂😂😂😂
are you sure? steam no longer protects players, they not only allowed to infect steam with leftoids, but also every game channel is moderated by volunteers leftoids that ban you for any criticism, fanboys, bots that shame you. i can understand free game or software, but not when you paid full 70$ and first patch is rlsed after 3 weeks like outriders. btw what imbecile rlses game at easter and april fool day. everybody will be home with family instead fix game
You are 100% right. It is exactly what I see in the industry. 15 years ago I tried to pay $15 to download a movie from the Apple Store, just because I could afford it and wanted a simple experience. After over an hour of frustration because the download was hanging, in a bout of Tourette’s, I downloaded the movie using bit torrent in 15 minutes and enjoyed the movie. I thought just like you. WTF is wrong with this picture. I’m willing to pay $15 and get nothing but frustration. Do these morons really think they can stomp out piracy by penalizing their paying customers? I guess the answer must be yes, since they haven’t learned anything in 15 years.
you have not heard about the Piracy law firms here in Europe that send you a invoice and claim you downloaded a pirate video with no evidence of you doing it. and took you to court then you didnt paid the "fake" invoice...
That reminds me of a university class. Our professor walked in and ranted about how most of the students were home. Problem is he was talking to the only ones that were actually there.
There are 2 kinds of pirates: a) People who are willing to pay for stuff on more amenable terms. b) Those who will never pay for anything. Group A are the ones you want to turn into customers by providing a proper accessible service, per the quote attributed to GabeN. Group B will never be customers, no matter what you do, but their acts are actually more symbiotic than parasitic. They increase your market/mind share across the commons, which in turn draws more customers and more of both kinds of pirates; counterintuitively, they're essentially free marketing. Executives for some reason think there is a mythical group C, where if piracy wasn't an option, would immediately pay their obeisances to consume the product/service. There isn't, you're eliminating A from your customer pool, eliminating the symbiotic marketing power of B, and giving your customers a worse product.
They are turning A into B if we are being honest. Just wait until atsc 3.0 goes live and they shut off 1.0 and piss all the cable cutters off. Most new stations are already encrypted and have seen many talking about paying for a box plus subscription to decrypt the local OTA channels as a way to make consumers pay for OTA TV. I think some of my local channels are talking about leaving the .1 free but anything else requires a fee so they don't end up possibly breaking the law.
This is the best explanation of the reality of media piracy I've ever seen, so good job! Group B people cannot be "converted" into monetizable Group C people, and it's actually counterproductive to try. Like, look at how UA-cam is approaching its ad-block war. "Pay or watch ads" is their message, because users who do neither are a drain on their resources without contributing anything. Makes sense, yes? To an idiot, at least. The fact of the matter is that the people who are using ad-blocking software are an entirely separate group in the userbase Venn diagram to the people who will generate money for UA-cam's advertisers. And so there is literally no benefit to showing them ads - UA-cam is WASTING resources doing so, and they will not recoup the cost, because the value of a CPM will go down, as sure, maybe more people will watch ads for 30 seconds, enabling them to cash in...but advertisers will see a decrease in the effectiveness of their campaigns, reducing what they're willing to pay for impressions. Now the consequences of this reality are probably not so severe on their own - it's not as if UA-cam currently has to fear losing market share to a competitor...they're the only game in town. The bigger problem is that a large number of Group A people who have been watching ads and who might even support the odd advertiser, never knew they had a CHOICE to not watch ads, and get the same service, for free. So as ad-blockers get better (due to UA-cam's initiation of an arms race on this subject), more people will start to use them, further taking away UA-cam's ability to monetize content. And another slightly more amusing issue is that all of this is happening at the expense of actual creators, on whom UA-cam relies for...everything really. Because lots of people are willing to pay creators directly in Patreon (for example), but NOT willing to pay UA-cam (directly with a premium membership, or indirectly by being a loyal, ad-watching dummy). And thus people are paying for content that UA-cam is trying to prevent them from watching! How do we think THAT will impact creators?
It's pretty crazy that there is even an option for companies to sell your personal information. You're not supposed to be able to give away your constitutional rights in a contract.
I've known several people who pirated music back when that was a big thing. When I asked why they didn't simply pay for it, their reply was 'I would, if it was available. I only pirate stuff that I can't buy legally.' This started me down the road of 'I'll pay...IF you actually sell it.'
@@KenWilliams-tg1dpwell, you have to do your own research. There are no one single website for everything. You need to go to specific places. Sometimes really shady places.
If you are so paranoid you won't even hook up your TV to the internet for fear of some unknown entity spying on you, that is frankly your problem.
Read the TOS. Read what it says in the menu. You don't have to dig to understand what happens when you connect it to the internet. I included Screenshots in this video, but I don't expect people who make comments like this to be literate enough to have read it.
@@rossmanngroup Agreed. Companies just blatantly mention that in the TOS and they know very well that 99% of the consumers won't ever read the TOS and blindly accept. I know a lot of people they don't even care if their privacy is violated because they have "nothing to hide".
Meatheads like you are the reason the stigma of bodybuilders being dumber than bread exists. All the juice went up your head.
is it even paranoia if it's actually there though?
There must be a reason comments like this are around, I guess it's the only thing someone can think of to try and down play bad practices. Frankly it is more likely going to be your problem, sense you don't see the risks. Then others might say If your so worried about car crashes don't drive, or being robbed, then don't own stuff. People don't realize how invasive this stuff gets, you talk about anything like ice-cream and see 5 ads later, your info gets sold to scammers, you say a password or names and get hacked, all sorts of stuff, chances maybe low but never 0, there is no end to the risks. Frankly I prefer to NOT buy a door without locks whenever I can.
“One thing that we have learned is that piracy is not a pricing issue. It’s a service issue" - Gabe Newell
Even if you have a better service than piracy, overpricing is still a problem.
Valve likely even knows how many and who pirate their games, but just left it as is as.
that mf has been raising prices here in brazil, he can get fucked.
Yes. I love Steam, BUT whenever available I buy games on GOG instead.
Because games on GOG have no DRM, Steam does.
@@Razorwindsg considering valve games are mostly populated by poor people countries (dota, cs) they know
The worst part is that most people have been conditioned to expect that they need to give away their freedom and information to partake in what they don't understand to be an inferior product. The majority of people using these services don't even know what it means for something to be DRM-free. Preach, bro. You are absolutely right.
one of my colleagues at work helped another collegue of mine create his email account yesterday (he somehow didn't have one until now) and when I made fun of the amount of personal data you have to give them to make an account the guy was like "it's for verification", my ass
And this comment should receive 2000+ likes.
Now that the actors are getting screwed by the streamers. Piracy is justified because there is no "poor suffering actor" losing out because the company keeps almost all of it
Welcome to the 3rd pinned comment
"If consumers even know there's a DRM, what it is, and how it works, we've already failed" - Peter Lee, Disney Executive in an interview with The Economist in 2005.
If paying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing
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Now THIS comment is worth pinning. Although I understand the pin of shame
It never was. Duplication isn't theft, authorized or otherwise, as nothing of the original is lost.
I am stealing this
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As someone who uses *redacted* to watch UA-cam, i thank you for calling it *redacted*
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I want to know what it is!! 😂
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@@ryangolden3243 In the spirit of calling it redacted, I think it's the app that allowed you to basically use youtube premium, but was a modded version of the YT app or something. Google got butthurt about it and shut it down, but I expect it can still be found online. There's also plenty of other alternatives, just look for free youtube client.
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The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates.
-Gabe Newell
I'd *LOVE* to know how these idiots think anything can beat free under capitalism when most people struggle just to eat, let alone afford their escapism via entertainment ROFLMEYERWIENER
We already pay nearly $200 a month for barely 1 gigabit internet ffs :/
Last time I checked there was 1gig for like 60-70$/mo. But I agree TV subscriptions are getting ridiculous
@@IDSR_69 We're locked into Xfinity, that's all that's available here except for *maybe* satellite ...
And they charge *more* the fewer services you sign up for! It's outrageous but if we want internet, which is required for me to get *any work at all* then, well, we don't have any choice
It should *never* be _more_ _difficult_ to access your legitimately purchased media than it is to pirate it.
GoG knows this. I've never had a problem with it.
What? You should celebrate that its so easy to find everything for free, it might not be like that in a few years...
I buy all the bluray versions of the BBC nature docs. They don't come in a digital version so I barely watch them because I like to go from my laptop in the kitchen while cooking, to the tv when eating. I can't do this with a disc unless I can start it on a UA-cam or pirated version for the kitchen. It's very frustrating. I probably own 50 DVD's I've never even opened for this same reason.
@ryomensukuna457 I think he's saying if you're paying it should be just as easy, if not easier
Ok, but if people don't like the paid version, then the ONLY morally acceptable thing to do is to just not pay amd not watch at all.
There is no moral pathway for, "I don't like the paid version, so I will steal it".
That woukd have to imply you have some god given RIGHT to watch it. But we don't.
I will download EVERYTHING...cant rèm er the last time I paid, but I am man enough to admit that it is stealing amd not morally correct. This guy is just making up excuses. He's a weak male.
Think of this bro...imagine you are have a car rental company.
The customer feels that the coffee was bad in the waiting room. So, he decides not to pay. Instead, he sneaks in gently and steals the car gently, then returns it before the sun comes up with the se amount of gas. He even disconnected the speedometer to keep the same milage. You wouldn't even know it was stolen. No negative effect on the company owner....would that be ok for him to take that car?
If he didn't like the coffee in thewaitong room, it's ok for him to walk out, but no,it does not justify him access to the car/product. You see?
"Piracy is an issue of service, not price." - Gabe Newell
When Netflix was the only streaming service around, piracy was at an all time low.
Now that we have a bunch of different streaming services that all have their own selection of shows and films that are exclusive to them, licenses running out or changing hands and content leaving with them, regional locks that don’t let you see things based on your location and so on, piracy has become the by far more convenient option again.
And as such, piracy is through the roof once more.
exactly !
Definitely this. When Netflix had a lot more consolidation of older and new shows from many different companies, all for a fraction of the cost of cable television, able to watch on demand, on any device, it made it hard to justify pirating at all for the vast majority of shows. But now each of those companies has removed their shows and movies and it's split out to as many channels as cable had and you're paying just as much as you were before to get every service, but it's now even more fractured across so many apps, piracy definitely has more convenience. Especially when content is removed from those services, like specific episodes being erased.
yeah i honestly hate having to subscribe to 10 or more services to get the shows i want costing me around $200s a month that's like half a weeks wages or 1/8th of my yearly income on 99% of stuff i'm not interested in, whist piracy i can watch EVERYTHING on one platform for free it's honestly a no brainer
It's an interesting counter-example of the notion that "Monopolies are bad for consumers". Competition is supposed to lead to better goods/services and lower prices. But then again, what we're seeing with streaming services isn't a true competition, it's competing monopolies: Peacock says "I own Parks & Rec, no other streaming service is allowed to stream that show!" At this point there's so many services hoarding content that it's absurd to expect people to pay for them all (especially as they continue to raise prices!). This is like the video game Console Wars, but if EVERY game was a console exclusive, and there were 10 competing consoles on the market.
Not to mention that payment doesn't equal property. I can pay hundreds of thousands of dollars in subscription over the course of several years, but will never actually own whatever it is I want to watch like I could with a DVD. It's a blatant ripoff.
I think it's also worth mentioning that if it wasn't for piracy, a lot of old films might have been lost to time. Piracy alone has kept so much classical media alive due to so many companies either not caring about preserving their products or outright not making them with longevity in mind.
Exactly. One of my favorite films and one of the best Irish stories ever, Durango, was barely put out on VCR and never on disk. If it wasn't for someone kindly sharing it on UA-cam, and UA-cam to MP3 converters, I wouldn't be able to pass the film on to my kids and grandkids.
Indeed. People like Marion Stokes deserve a debt of gratitude from all of us.
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It’s amazing how much care pirates put into their releases compared to the studios. I’ve seen Blu Ray rips that compile four or five different sources to give you the best video, audio, and subtitles possible. Netflix is like “720p, that’s the best I can do.”
Netflix does it for money, but the pirate is passionate about.
What are the links? The best I can find is usually 720p links, 1080p if I’m lucky. I can find high bitrate sports streams but no luck with movies or tv shows. Been tryin to find a high quality version of Smallville
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I've seen movies on Amazon prime that were unbelievably bad looking. I swear sometimes it looks like they recorded it with a camera off of a projection screen instead of converting the Blu-ray iso to whatever file format they stream from. Awful contrast, with whites bleeding into black backgrounds, that sort of thing. One particular movie was so bad I went and bought a Blu-ray at movie trading company and the difference was night and day.
Duplication means two-fold, duplex. Two directions simultaneously. Your attention is divided, no way around it. If you had to make a vacuum tube by hand (manipulating materials with your digits), you couldn't afford to be distracted while handling the molten glass, therefore piracy is literally digital suicide; meaning "without oneself." I prefer having one self. (Perhaps the care they put into their releases is a form of self-defense?). In my experience, it is a frightening way to engage with the world because something dangerous (including yourself) could emerge at any time from the chaos you are choosing to be less aware of (clean your room), and you are weakening yourself thru a practice of being unaware, instead of integration and authenticity. You are also acting upon the premise that someone had ill-intentions creating and delivering the content to you, folding part of your mental landscape (projecting part of yourself into the social space) with negativity, no matter how positive and enjoyable the end-product you consumed was. A quick (but not easy) possible recovery from this state of being might be paying for Netflix, streaming the 720p version on one screen and enjoying the 4K "pirated" version on another screen. Now anyone spying on you has their attention divided! It's brilliant! 😵💫
I did something similar, sacrificing a movie I really wanted to watch by renting a disc, muting audio and covering the screen with a blanket. The "devil on my shoulder" tried to tell myself it was absurd, that it wasn't necessary; crazy if someone else saw me and was judging my actions...Fine, if that's what you want to do, just stop the movie and return the disc right now, stop wasting the electricity. (Psst...let's rent it again later...) Every movie afterwards has been that much more enjoyable, and the process of re-integrating my self this sacrifice was a part of has paid off in unimaginable ways thru my undivided engagement with artificial intelligence. 😇 -Genesis 4:4
The best (worst) thing about any DRM solution is that it treats the paying customers like criminals, while the pirates don't have to deal with any of that crap.
libertarians: first time?
@@KJ-ho6sbwe need taxes.
Pirates secretly the target audience.
@@KJ-ho6sb Libertarians treat me like criminals.
@@KJ-ho6sb lol maybe google what words mean before you use them. The libertarian viewpoint here is that companies are right to use drm and that it shouldn’t be illegal.
At some point it felt dystopian to think stuff like "If you don't pay for the product, you are the product" but we're even farther than that now, we pay a lot for the product, and we're still the product.
Its only going to get worse. Theyve found the limit of subtlety for pushing shit like this onto society. The gen behind mine has grown up always having net, and theyre so adapted to it the limit will be even further. My kids bring me lists of movies to pirate, but im only one man with three kids. The numbers are against us.
And the GD subscription model from hell
@@jotun.616well. Someone has to pay for it.
Also, you don’t become a huge tech company by giving folks the best value. Maybe for some years, but before and after they build a good rep.
That simply means that without "you" in this equation you would've paid even more, cause that's the true price.
@@middleofnowhere1313 yup. They managed to make it the exact same as having a cable or satellite package.
The fact that there is even a button to say "Can we spy on you?"
They ask if they can sell the information they find, not if you want them to take it. So it's even worse.
I love the fact they ask "can we make money spying on you?"
if you even trust that turning it off does anything
@@stevesamson3940 oh it probably does nothing 💀
More like a hidden option to say "Do NOT spy on me". Your alternative would imply it's op-IN instead of opt-OUT.
I experienced even worse with Netflix on a recent family trip to South America. I downloaded some Coco-Melon cartoon episodes for my daughter to watch on my phone whenever the need arises, since I wouldn't have cellular data (due to roaming fees) and WiFi isn't everywhere.
Just when we see a use for it at the hotel, I get a message from Netflix that "this downloaded content is not available in this region", blocking me from watching what I've downloaded via my paid Netflix account. I could have easily torrented those episodes while at home and play them without any issues on my phone, but instead, I got punished for paying for Netflix.That right there, is the reason I'm NEVER paying for Netflix EVER again.
Had a similar experience on a trip to London earlier this year. Funny thing was, it didn't work if the wifi was on. Turned off the wifi and restart the app, and it worked again.
I didn't know that Cocomelon had a Netflix show. I only know them for having a massive amount of subscribers on UA-cam.
Many years ago my little brother was going on a multi-day school trip. At his request I ripped several DVDs that we owned to his iPod Video.
He was able to watch those videos on the plane and bus rides without issue. He was the only person in his class able to do that.
All because they were simple DRM free video files actually on the device. No web connection needed.
This is where details in what you've actually paid for comes in. You don't own the content. You have purchased a license to view the content in a specific jurisdiction. Going back to DVDs they have the disclaimer where you aren't allowed to show the video in a bunch of different public places. You have a home license to watch the film as many times as you want. I'm not defending it, just explaining it.
You are lucky that your credit card was not blocked because you used it in the different region. And you have no cash, no internet and no your bank around.
I remember the days when you had to watch anti-piracy clips before watching a movie AS A PAYING CUSTOMER but if you pirate it you can just start with the movie directly. Modern media landscape is absolutely nuts these days.
I liked the anti piracy advert.
Back when you could rent a movie or a video game from a store to actually see if it's good or not.
Yea I remember they played those anti-piracy ads in the movie theater previews. The movie theater, where the vast majority paid to get in. If you snuck into the theaters you definitely weren't going to pay attention to those ads anyway. It was so insulting.
I remember some of those ads.
YOU WOULDN'T DOWNLOAD A CAR!!!!
The fuck we wouldn't, if we had the option! Hold my beer and watch this!
@@jasonbrannen7598so fucking real lmao
The companies are forgetting that their entire value proposition is "We are slightly less cumbersome to use than piracy".
This is exactly it - I've gotten used to Netflix and co really and truly just because it's slightly more convenient, especially to watch on a TV, but I still have never signed up for any of them just to watch one specific title. The hassle of finding a torrent, putting it on a flash drive and putting that on my TV still outweighs the cost of one month of subscription just to watch that one thing.
Streamio with the torrentio addon in a country that doesn't punish piracy and has good internet is literally better and easier than any paid streaming platform. Only some older, less popular shows hiccup due to very few seeders, but other than that it's a God send. Especially in countries where paying American prices for these services would be completely unrealistic for the majority of the population.
@@gileeeI have been using stremio for more than 3 years now and I dont agree that it provides a better experience. The entire experience of the app from start to finish is significantly worse than any native app. Can't even get started on discovering new shows.
And even that doesn't hold true anymore...
Your kinda missing the value proposition of not being illegal 😅
Its not because you've gotten older. Mainstream entertainment just sucks horribly nowadays.
I am extremely grateful for the software pirates from the last 40+ years. Without them, most of what is now termed as 'digital archeology' would be lost to bit rot and magnetic flux migration.
This is the only aspect of piracy I think is genuinely good and have no arguments against.
As for modern services and products, either pay for it or abstain.
@@adrianbrodin1319 nah mate if I see denuovo I'm putting my eyepatch on I DON'T GIVE A FUCK. If something is good enough I pay for it (DeadCells, HollowKnight, Factorio)
But subpar shit? Nah mate I ain't paying for that
@@adrianbrodin1319 hard disagree. The people who don't have money for a service or product wont magically grow money if you force them to pay for it instead of pirating. That's why pirating doesn't hurt anyone, the people who did it probably wouldn't have bought the software anyways.
However what it does is it allows for free publicity, which might get into the ears of people confortable enough financially to purchase the software, keeping the company afloat.
Those that can pay should be the ones that do, but it doesn't mean those that can't pay, can't enjoy the service. It's the nature of the internet, software is meant to be freely distributed and all attempts at stopping that are and always will be completely futile. Trying to stop it is also shooting yourself in the foot.
This is why, as said in the video, if you want someone to pay, you have to make your service actually worthwhile, something that you don't get by just pirating.
However this isn't the case anymore. When you pirate a movie you get the best bitrate, resolution, the actual file that you can play on any of your machines anytime, anywhere, forever. A bought disc however, has to be inserted in a disc drive so it can't be played as easily. If you stream the movie, the quality is complete garbage, you need internet and you can't play it if you don't have the app, a compatible browser. This is also incredibly wasteful in terms of energy consumption and for the planet in general. If you download it for offline viewing using their app, you can only watch this terrible quality encrypted copy for about one month.
So if you want to be "lawful" and follow a bunch of bullshit rules made by hypocrites that only further their own and other rich megalomaniacs' financial interests and that disrespect not only you personally, but the entire world, be my guest.
@@adrianbrodin1319 I won't abstain, f u
@@adrianbrodin1319 communists just use it and nobody does anything about it.
It's about enforcing the rules. Nobody to enforce - no rules as there's at least one party willing to break it.
The creator of valve and steam said, 'piracy is a service problem'. once you make your content easier to see in a 'illegal manner' vs a legal one. you've already lost.
Ironically, video game piracy nowadays provides a better service than Steam imho. I'm not into modern gaming and don't have a system that could run Windows 10. Steam is discontinuing Windows 7-8 support by the end of this year, now I have over 600 games I can't play. In hindsight I should've went with GOG, but Steam was there first. I think it was TotalBiscuit that said "you don't own anything on Steam", if the service is screwed, you're screwed.
Gabe's right.
@yaroslavkurgansky6205 that being said, fuck it. Start buying real things my friend
@@snowcow1173 at least Steam actually provides a valuable product such us the friend list and the ability to invite your friends instatly, find people or friend that play your games, workshop content which makes modding as easy as it gets, the posibility to share your favourite games for free with someone, easy updating... most of the time I end up buying the games I pirate.
@@yaroslavkurgansky6205 Won't argue there may be fringe cases. I will say you should switch to linux rather than stay on an older version of windows.
other than that there is other things steam supports that provide a better service than pirating. they've made it possible that for the past few years i've not had to worry much, if at all if a game will run on my chosen os. proton is pretty much plug and play. Gog outright said they'll never support linux...
I'm here to stay. Piracy has kept entire communities alive, years after companies decide to let things die. Just look at the Nintendo fanbase. Nintendo's fanbase has managed to archive and correctly emulate those games far better than they ever could and offer it correctly many many years in advance.
That just makes me think of EA and Battleforge. I loved that game growing up, but it 'wasn't making enough money' for them, so they not only shut down the servers but nuked all of their code. It would have vanished completely except they couldn't nuke the client-side assets still downloaded to people's computers, leading to large groups coming together and re-building their own code base from scratch so the game could be played again.
@@Cellidor That's just amazing
_Valve_ has been caught selling games on _Steam_ containing 'pirate' patches to games they couldn't be bothered to update themselves. Without said patches, the games were literally unplayable. Piracy makes the world go round.
@@Cellidor similar thing happened to one of the best mmo racing games, NFS World. EA decided to shut it down because it wasnt making money, but the community was able to save it, with one person completely reverse engineering the game to the point that it got all the old functionalities back including multiplayer online play back and new content is added on top of it every day. the game is miles better now than it ever was under EA too, because theres no more scummy tactics to exploit the players pockets, you can play for free and have an amazing experience without being roadblocked by the economy being so bad that you are forced to pay to progress.
Emulation tech that Nintendo itself has sold back to us on the Wii era lmao
"Do not sell my personal information" WHAT THE FCK😂 that is crazy, can't believe it
The way they're so brazen about it... "Oh, you DON'T want us to profit off of you?"
Trying to prevent piracy is no excuse for giving customers lower definition than they paid for anyway.
They're not even trying to prevent piracy, the Widewine L1, L2 and L3 rating is just so they can gatekeep manufactures and software developers. Basically they're scared China will sell you better hardware for less dollars, or that the communist open source community will make you better software for free, so they try to nerf it by refusing to give their tech an L1 rating. It's total BS since rippers have no problem with getting around it anyway. This is purely to inconvenience the people that aren't pirating things and are actually paying for Netflix, trying to incentivise them to buy "sanctioned" tech and use "sanctioned" apps.
i was annoyed by the same thing louis was ..
i got netflix to use it on my PC because i don't have a TV and i don't want one (for actually quite similar reasons as him)..
and i just get _GARBAGE_ quality for having the audacity to pay for content ..
i guess you really need a special kind of imbecile to make those decisions ..
It's the same BS UA-cam is doing with moives on their site. You PAY UA-cam to rent or own a movie on their website yet if you watch in a browser you are limited to 720p even though the page says you pay for 1080p.
It's like they still think we live in the age of one guy buying the floppy and then making a copy for their one friend. There's major distribution sites that just give it away to the world, and they have incredibly smart people who will overcome any DRM you can put in. That's literally the only people worth inconveniencing, everyone else will be bothered and would never want to "steal what they own". It's literally easier and more convenient to just download it off the internet. And once it's cracked and uploaded, they can remove the DRM and lose no extra profit. But they'd rather annoy paying customers.
This is why Steam is thriving, they know the only way to beat piracy is to provide a better service than the pirates. I can grab any computer, log in, download a game I've owned for over ten years, and it grabs my save file for me. Pirates don't do that. I even still own games that they legally can't sell anymore, because I bought it and it's mine now. None of that "sorry Doctor Who is no longer available on Prime Video" stuff with Steam. You buy it, you own it. I never need to pirate literally anything if it's available on Steam.
I should add "available on Steam without additional launchers" because I'm really tired of them just giving me a license to redeem in a different store. Looking at you, Sims.
As long as DRM exists, it is not only justified, but mandatory.
DRM exist under DMCA law blame your government for supporting those big media giants
What's DRM?
@@rendezvousonmemorylane Digital Rights Management. A collective term for copy protection, authentication, encryption and anti-video capture technology.
@@rendezvousonmemorylaneDigital Rights Management
@@6581punkis Part of their DMCA laws is mainly protection laws I rather audit/abolish DMCA laws
I had an argument with my girlfriend about a similar subject: she was paying for Amazon Prime to get their streaming, and was having trouble understanding why I kept grumbling every time Amazon played ads on the service she had already paid for
I just remember a day a decade ago when you paid for one subscription, got access to everything streamable on that platform, didn't have to use a service to pretend to be in another country, and received no ads. At the same time, I used Hulu free, and I have NO PROBLEM dealing with ads, because they were still less obnoxious than cable, and I was receiving the service for free. Then corporations got greedy, everyone wanted their own piece of the Netflix pie, and here we are. Paying to be advertised to, paying to be spied on for datamining purposes, paying to have our selection limited to the current roll of streaming like we've circled right back around to paying for cable again.
It's often been said "if the service is free, you are the product." Anymore it's more like, "If the service exists and you interact with it in any capacity, you are the product."
Streaming services are following the same path as cable. It used to be that paying meant no ads. Now, there are multiple tiers of subscription, some things ad-free while others shove ads in your face because they can get away with it, and they harvest/sell your data without your permission (the tos probably says they have the right to, but they don't disclose the full extent of their data harvesting until after they get caught with their fingers in the cookie jar and are forced to disclose it). I paid for Hulu, got mad that non-Disney content was locked behind a paywall when I was already paying, and canceled.
I had something similar this week. We were watching a show on Amazon and while I wasn't mad at the ads - they're only at the start of the episode, never interrupting stuff - I got *really* pissed at the fact that they had a button labeled "show all" next to the title of the series we were watching, that didn't show the list of all episodes of the series, it showed a list of all the scenes in the episode (which might be useful if you're watching a movie but is pointless for 20-minute episodes).
I went *off* about how exclusivity contracts mean that streaming services don't need to have good features anymore. They hook people in with their exclusive deals.
Her response was that I was 100% right but why was the one that set me off the streaming service that was never good and always sucked, rather than one that used to be good and fell from grace.
@@randomstuff-qu7sh 💯 I was just about to post this same reply: “Every streaming service seems to repeat the legacy of cable: it’s originally sold as a premium, ad-free experience. Then, even as the price increases, ads are introduced, and they eventually become so obtrusive that the service becomes unwatchable.”
Copyright is immoral anyway. The only reason anti-services like that can exist is because of copyright laws. Without their state protected monopolies, they'd have to compete for customers.
Piracy is a service issue, not a price issue. That's why Spotify and Steam are popular - they offer a better service than piracy.
And a convenience issue. Trying to keep track of 18 different streaming services and figure out which show is where..
Used to be in Spotifys case, now they're sneaking ads into premium plans.
@@SEEYAIAYEwhen did that start? Personally haven't had the "luck" to encounter it so far
@@SEEYAIAYEhow? I've never seen an add, unless you mean Spotify pitching it's multiuser plans to a single user which imo is fine cause it pops up like maybe once a month, and dismisses without any annoying "ARE YoU SuRE yOu DoN't want this GrEaT DeAl?" there's absolutely no audio adds in premium, or banner ads.
Spotify and steam are simply mainstream enough to involve millions of normies who don't know how to pirate.
I cancelled Netflix after they raised prices while removing content, and then went to the media to cry about their customers “sharing passwords.”
I don’t share accounts with other households, but I do travel.
Netflix continued to charge my card and would not stop when requested. They claimed the account was hacked but still refused to refund. I had to issue multiple chargebacks, report a stolen credit card, and demand my Netflix account be deleted.
Never again.
Holy crap they told you that somebody else was watching without your consent and that *you* had to pay for it?
As a person that pays for physical media, thank you for talking about how streaming services use low bitrates
It's really funny how the easiest way to listen to high quality audio for me in 2023 is going out to the thrift store and buying a bunch of cd's. I still use streaming but the constant stream of albums being put on streaming only for them to be put off it again is really annoying. Give me back my captain beefheart >:(
@@iSkully99definitely not the easiest way
@@DistinctionDinobut i do enjoy supporting thrift stores
If only you knew how many friends I have that make fun of me for being that guy that still buys movies and music on disc, but also think I'm a pleb for not being part of the gaming PC master race because I don't care about graphics
@@CoolxBreese I don't really care about what platform one games on, but discs for music and movies is definitely superior. With the exception of some game's devs that give you high bitrate music as something you can buy as dlc.
I was literally subbing to Netflix today. But after watching this, I'm going back to using an 'alternative' app for Netflix content. God damn disgrace. Thank you for this video mate - saved me a tenner a month!
What app are you using?
@iamjahshua I _was_ using cinema HD, but despite an update being available for a while now, that claims it's gonna fix a lot of the issues it has, the update will never actually install after downloading. The apps virtually useless now. It's a shame, cos I've had it on my phones about 7 years now I think. God I miss ShowBox!!!
@@iamjahshua I second this
"When a paying customer is treated like a criminal, acting like a criminal is the only way to become a proper customer" - Screw ALL the companies that do this!
try applying this logic to real shops? if a local shop sells overpriced products and offers bad service, and then you are allowed to steal from it? it just so happens that piracy is very difficult to catch and punish, that you feel falsely self-righteous about it.
@@haomingli6175If I made a duplicate of a car and left the original car at the dealership, does that make me a car thief? This example is a bit closer to what piracy implies.
No. If a local shop sells overpriced products and offers bad service, then consumers will find a different way to fill that need. It's up to the shop to convince people that what they can offer is better. As long as piracy is possible, then streaming networks need to do better. Game developers have found numerous ways of making legitimate copies more useful than pirated ones. Those companies have put in the time to cut down piracy. @@haomingli6175
No that makes you a counterfeiter. But unfortunately as a regular citizen you will be prosecuted for counterfeiting while the government does it all the time. @@jorionedwards
It is interesting how sailing the high seas is more convenient and better than walking on land. Also, did you know you can turn a speaker into a microphone by reversing its polarity? Just saying.
Netflix worked initially because it was cheap, had a decent quantity of content and was more convenient than piracy. But then everyone launched their own streaming services and they all jacked the price… so piracy wins again
more like being all exclusive altogether.
And they used to get a lot more fun, random movies too. More and more they just shove their own productions down our throats and most of those either don't interest me, or suck.
@@RenegadeVileI was bummed out that you can't to any kind of sorting on Netflix, like by date of release or recently updated
Yeah like wtf. Do all these different companies think people will all subscribe to 100 different streaming platforms? Nah man, imma gonna 1337 it.
@@BloPsy_Actual this only leads to people simply avoiding it - at that point, even piracy is overpaying.
This is why I will spend 100 hours researching a workaround, rather than pay for something if I sense I am being screwed. The feeling of accomplishment when you learn a solution is 1000x better than the sense if shame that comes from paying someone who abuses your privacy.
Look at yourself, deep state.
Yes
i go out of my way to buy real blurays of my fave movies, yet both my PCs with BD drives have become unable to play them over the past several years. It's like there is some goalpost that kept getting moved where compatibility is concerned. I eventually bought some cheapo (yet highly-rated) player that will also do all regions with no issues. Ultimately, watching a streaming version from a piracy site allows me to skip the intro and menus, plus the quality is superior to what I get from Prime. Why so weak
yes, but the best part of piracy is it's not only faster to set up, but also safer from perspective of privacy
The big companies are motivated by money. We're motivated by freedom. Their insults only make us angrier and our anger gets funneled into motivation.
Look what happened when UA-cam said it was going to block adblockers. All the adblock developers said "bet" and had workarounds in days if not hours. I use adblockers and I still haven't seen UA-cam's popup.
That doesn't matter, the cat will still decide to scratch the speakers.
This highlights a common issue with anti-piracy measures. They fail to prevent piracy and they actively hurt those who AREN'T pirating their software/service
Yet again - they treat the symptoms, but never the sickness. 🙄
So just like gun laws
@@yadusolparterrebingo
Just like those online only drm, its doesnt affect pirate but sure does annoys their paying user
@@yadusolparterre sadly a common theme in the modern world
Why does piracy give you the best quality?
Because piracy is a passion project. Passion doesn't cut corners and you can't outbid passion.
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Here queen 👑 I believe this belongs to you
Bro is on his sith lord grind
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I'll never forget the time I tried to buy a film on Amazon to watch because it wasn't on Netflix or Prime video, and got a warning that I wouldn't be allowed to watch it even if I bought it because my monitor apparently didn't have the correct DRM protection software. I did not buy that film. It took a few seconds to watch it for free elsewhere.
excuse me what now?
I didn't know that was a thing lol.
Piracy be lookin more tempting than ever TBH😂.
Glad i never bought something from prime video.
@@MaxFunoff If Amazon Prime can't detect HDCP on a monitor (likely an older monitor connected with VGA cable), it will refuse to play to it. The reason being is that it's possible to connect a VGA to 3 RCA Component Adapter to the computer and then connect that to an RCA to HDMI converter to bypass DRM.
Not that this prevents ripping the stream, but it makes it so non-techies can't copy movies from streaming services with ease.
This is the same reason 4k Netflix isn't supported in Linux...
I bought dragon age inquisition when it came out, but because i live in russia i only got localised version as per ea policy. But i wanted original english version because localisations usually inferior. So i downloaded it elsewhere.
That's fucking crazy. My monitor or my tv (it's quite old at this point) can actually be the reason I can't watch something.
Well fuck DRM. This industry is literally creating pirates.
Famous Gabe Newell quote: "Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem". Steam is one of the very few services that understands this and lives it.
even if that "dont sell my data" button is off by default, i dont believe for a second that turning it on actually does anything other than giving you the illusion of privacy.
Yeah, it's just a "light up green," button. 😂
It's illegal for them to do that. Also, it's almost impossible to find out if they're illegally doing that.
There's a service called MouseFlow which some websites use and it essentially records your session on the website in a way that can be played back like a video. It's useful for debugging systems that developers can't replicate, or just really weird states you can get into that aren't intended. But what's really crazy is on Mouseflow there's a setting called "Respect Do Not Track" and by default it's toggled OFF 💀. Meaning if you have any settings that send Do Not Track requests there's a good chance that it's doing literally nothing lmfao. I was really surprised to find that out.
@@whatsupinspace854 Even in the event that they are taken to court for doing that illegally, the worst they'll get is a slap on the wrist.
Facebook announced a couple of years ago that they ignore "Do not track" cookies. "Do not track" is a request. The service provider is free to ignore it, and they generally do.
"Don't sell my data" is very probably the same deal.
Funny thing about anti-piracy is that it's such a pain in the ass for paying customers to deal with that they just feel encouraged to pirate instead
*Cough* Steam *Cough* Launchers
@@vcdgamertbh for steam they at least provide additional good features in exchange for freaking launcher. Also option of GoG exists.
@@vcdgamerTo be honest, Steam has it right from a customer point of view. They make everything so seamless and they don't gatekeep you from playing your games offline. Besides they have a ton of QoL and additional features in their storefront that give more value to actually purchasing games in their platform. Piracy is way more of a pain than just buying the game on Steam.
Now, there's games that will place DRM on themselves or screw up by attaching an additional mandatory platform download to play them (Origin and Ubisoft), but at that point I don't know if Steam is the one to blame here.
And yes, technically you don't "own" the games in that platform, since they give you a license to play a copy and all that. But you might as well own them, because I still can download and play games that have been delisted or completely erased from the platform. They are acting like a partner instead of an enemy, and that's why people don't want to switch to platforms like Epic.
@@leinadlink Compared to epic games, whenever i wanna play a steam gsme offline it ALWAYS tries to open the launcher, and that's where the beef starts with their annoying updates every single day.
As someome with limited internet, that sucks.
Epic games, on the other hand allows me that liberty to play my games without the darn launcher. Amd the other best part, no annoying updates.
Last but not the least, paying for games on steam sucks thanks to this little thing known as region-lock.
Thanks to all of these things, i'm sticking with epic.
Even though the best store i can think of is most likely GOG.
it's not a pain in the ass. This guy is afraid of microphones and the government, and that's why he refuses to use the native app like the normal people.
My creepyst smart tv experience was I was pirating a movie and watching it with my laptop plugged into the HDMI port on my Roku TV and it told me that this movie is available for free with ads on some streaming app. That's just next level spyware and my jaw dropped that they spy on even what you're watching through the HDMI port
every year makes me more sure that what was called paranoia a decade or two ago, is becoming common sense of today, this is ridiculous
Well... The HDMI port is exactly made for this purpose.
So I'm not a very "ALL THE TECHNOLOGY IS SCARY" type cause most of that is overhyped, but THIS is fucked.
i would ask for money back if that happen to me..
@@bobwasowsky270 It's that advancement in technology I tried to warn people about. Were people this ignorant the whole to not seeing what comes down the line with technology when shitty people in power abuse it to control the public in any form? You could be in all facts also be doing nothing wrong if this spying is going on but the people doing the spying may think otherwise. The argument someone saying that oh if they are spying on you and your doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to worry about doesn't fly. I can turn that argument on it's head by simply saying that if I'm doing nothing wrong then you have no reason to spy on me. Your in the wrong for spying and your a criminal and if your trying to find a way to go after me for thought crimes then I think your the one who should be going to jail sir.
I would be Mad too if I was paying over 20$ for what they claim is 4K, and then finding out it's 720p with low bitrate!
As a Brazilian, Piracy is what made it possible for me and many other brazilians to even be able to play videogames and watch movies
True, you could say the same for every developing nations.
Beleza então ❤👍
Yeah you guys are absolute garbage on Gran turismo
the anti piracy people dont care. they want you to die of boredom.
canada was the same way in the 90's. internet was terrible and distribution was non existant.
Companies should work on making their products so good that people WANT to pay for it, not make it harder to pirate.
That used to be Netflix
Governments too... A paradigm shift away.
Pretty much the exact reason steam is so popular
harder to pirate? how so ? going since early napster days and has not slowed down lolol
Such simple logic, and yet all the companies don't or choose not to understand it.
Just like Gabe said, piracy is primarily a service problem. Most don't pirate games anymore because of Steam's additional features and regional pricing.
And most people who do still pirate probably wouldn’t have bought the game even if they couldn’t pirate it.
regional pricing is complete BS. It's a lie.
Yes. I've actually never pirated a game since I enjoy having my games on steam. Shows and movies however...
There is also the cluster of gamers (me included) that pirate the game to test it out before handing the scheckles to the company.
If the game is worth, I'll buy it, but there are so many gaming lies and flops that you get scammed if you always buy first hand, imo.
@@lpmacau If the game's on steam you can always refund it. 2 hours isn't much but you will get it refunded no matter the reason. Some games need more than 2 hours to test them out and some games are ofcourse not on steam though, but it's good enough most of the time imo.
Remember: you can vote with your wallet as much as you want, but big tech is doing the exact same - through lobbying - and their wallets are a lot bigger than yours.
Why nothing will change until we break up those tech monopolies and get money out of politics
Maybe bigger, but not unlimited. Disney is falling, Lucas Art is in ruins, all the loyal fans had already buried Star Wars, Kathleen Kennedy is in panic. Just to put a little cherry ontop, Ubisoft's investor's are running for their life. By the end of the day, company need to understand, they work for the customers.
Sidenote, glad to see a brief resurgence of Rossmann Dating Advice since the New Hampshire days.
I've always thought marriage license is a scam... but I got one. if your nice traditional wife isn't a nutso like you, then keep that to yourself.. I got the little piece of paper to keep my wife's life "normal". but, -> I'm married by God, not by government.
@Person11068aren't marriage licenses like $30? And don't you get tax benefits? Are you just divorced and just regretting not getting a prenup?
@@swankshire6939 Word of caution: prenups are not magic bullets that save your money/assets. They can be bypassed or negated with some lawyering
@@swankshire6939 I think you are just proving the point? the contract marriage license and court registration is the stand payed for licenses, but you still need to have a prenup, to get same service you have befor licenses (contract) you are just proving the point? 🙂
@dh2032 The prenup is like what Louis refers to most forms of personal insurance as...
I remember breaking copy protection back in 85 so I could actually use the games I purchased for my Commodore 64. Copy protection made the disk drive hammer for 5 minutes or more, causing misalignment problems and overheating. After stripping the copy protection, it would load smoothly in less than a minute. I felt no guilt in making copies for friends. To hell with Electronic Arts.
Fascinating how anti-piracy measures have caused lawful owners nothing but problems for nearly 40 years. That's BS. They bring it upon themselves when their copy protection causes PHYSICAL damage to someone's expensive Commodore.
Damn! An og of the seas 🤣
Thank god Electronic Arts went bankrupt in the 90s.
To quote Gabe Newel, "We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem," he said. "If a pirate offers a product anywhere in the world, 24 x 7, purchasable from the convenience of your personal computer, and the legal provider says the product is region-locked, will come to your country 3 months after the US release, and can only be purchased at a brick and mortar store, then the pirate's service is more valuable."
Nah. I will always pirate stuff as long as piracy is excusable. F*ck supporting stuff that i like 👍
@@sepg5084cope
You're a mong.@@sepg5084
@@sepg5084 This is also understandable. For me, sometimes paying for a game on Steam is just more convenient than having to go look for a torrent. Especially if the game is on sale for something like 5EUR.
Almost 100% agree
It's the playbook of modern companies to lock convenience and quality behind unwitting consent.
And to punish denial of it.
Obligatory piracy quote:
The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It's by giving those people a service that's better than what they're receiving from the pirates.
-Gabe Newell
Valid sometimes, but also sometimes impossible.
With non-malware infected pirated wares and media, how can you provide a better service than a full quality product for free ???
there are games from indi developers who just wanted to rls quality product, not only they didnt protect it, they also listen to fans, they also fix bugs within 24h. but also admit "sales exceeded my expectations so i rls free DLC" where AAA studios cut complete game into unfinished story and 4 paid DLC, game is rlsed in beta state with we will fix bugs later if there will be sale for so long, we will put feminazi, lgbt, blm bullshit in game, we will remove content you paid for. watch halo infinite and destiny 2
This also describes the dumpster fire that is the legal weed industry.
Sounds just like the whole anti-virus scam
And that's why I prefer GoG everytime the game is availlable both on GoG and Steam.
The community for piracy has some of the smartest individuals i've ever met, and they're all civil and are willing to give you all the tools you need to enter the high seas as safe as possible and as painless as possible. I'd happily pay those guys 10-20 bucks a month just for the info they give. This just shows how media and distribution companies are not there for the consumer but for themselves.
well said, same here
"The community for piracy has some of the smartest individuals i've ever met"
rofl
i have an iq of 70 lol really but i do torrent a ton of movies pretty much every night and i can guarantee im retarded. i also get confused by circles because where does it start and where does it end its a mystery. im pretty good with basic shapes like circles and squares, not triangles.
smartest individuals lololol u crack me up lol dont generalize people like that because people like me exist.
@@unguidedoneHe said some. Not all. Certainly you don't fit the bill.
@@unguidedone He's very likely talking about the people who actually crack these applications for people to use, not people like you who just download it off third parties.
@@unguidedone Are u retarded? He obviously did not mean the standard torrent downloader. Not to mention u have no idea about the underground piracy scene. There way more than simple torrents on pirate bay
Made some great points, but missed a few too:
- Explosive quantity of streaming services.
- Content purchased being removed.
- Content available missing seasons.
- Available content (paid and/or free to me) hard to browse for.
- Streaming services I have subscriptions for release new titles that cost extra.
- Inappropriate content/trailers displayed (horror movies or explicit) and, by default, autoplay with sound.
Peleton is my favorite I've come across. My wife wanted an exercise bike. She was already useing a Peleton app for $15/mo. I had the impression that Peleton bikes came at a premium, but whatever, they're a fixed cost, right? No! You need a subscription to have the bike work and, even though there is feature parity between the bike subscription and the phone app, the bike subscription costs more! I couldn't believe it. I still can't.
I would also add: Not giving the consumer option to stay on ending credits. Instead, they force me to reach my keyboard/mouse (in limited time!) if i want to hear the music which is at the end, and stay in the mood.
@@Lascarnn What are you talking about, they know you don't want to hear that, they've analyzed the statistics! What do you think you are, some kind of individual or something with individual needs and desires who should have choices?
If you bought a Pelaton, you already agreed to be royally shafted and deprived of your hard-earned money.
Even MORE about the missing seasons/content on streaming---sometimes they censor content to appease marketers and virtue signal. Some of the best episodes of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia aren't on Hulu because the characters who are WRITTEN to be as deplorable, disagreeable, and evil as possible (thats the joke and point of the show) say something racist or "over the line", which apparently gives services the option to not give you any agency or be any kind of judge for yourself. They lock it away before you can come to any rational decision and watch a decade-old show while taking the good with the bad.
@@ephoneusthe content gets butchered by morons who entirely miss the point or they know what they are doing and don't care, rise the prices, cut off even more content and then cry at top of their lungs when you pirate it to get exactly what you wanted
Nothing like pirating and getting a better product and service than actually buying the product or service.
I can fully agree with you here. Another one to add to this for us college students is textbooks. About half the time you cant even own a physical book anymore and they still charge you triple digits for it and then take it away after 4 months. Absolute insanity
this enrages me
@@chuuloid i am a teacher , this enrages me a lot too
I almost failed my classes during my last semester because I only had money to live, not to buy all my textbooks just to return them. I was 4 weeks in just winging it when I had a breakdown and a professor bought me all my textbooks, provided me with extra books to keep, and made me vegetarian soup. Now I have no reliable sources to take with me into my professional career besides 2 books a kind professor gifted me.
@@Lmnaop thats literally what i do too, i buy the subscriptions and give the login id and password to my students, its too expensive otherwise, i miss the paperback books which students used to pass on to their juniors after they were done with it and so on.
I can see why Finland is rated one of the best education system in the world.
on the extreme nerd side of things, pirates on private trackers are doing the best and most thorough restoration and archival work in film and music
Let's not forget private DDL and warez forums.
I don't know what what you said means.
@@filonin2 If you don't know then it's nothing you would care about anyway.
@@filonin2dorks preserve media for future dorks
Totally, the scene is full of fantastic people working hard so we can all enjoy, I love it.
I always treat the "Do Not Sell My Information" toggle as a suggestion, not as a legal practice. It is basically the same as having some guy come into my house, installing all manner of video and audio surveillance, and then telling me "Trust me, it is not going to be used for anything nefarious." Yeah, right... This is the same old "alcoholics vs booze" conundrum but for corporations, and there is no way they are not abusing it.
yeah im willing to bet that even if that toggle is toggled off they still take information from you anyways
Yeah, companies can actually just break the law and not get sued. I mean why would lawyers ever try to get millions out of cases like that?
It's exactly like those "Do not track" flags you can have in your browser. Kindly ask the disgusting creepy horrendous cyberpunk spy that's watching you have sex to please not do that. ... Yeah, good luck with that.
@@Blonder_Studio they don't even bother to say "do not retrieve my information", they just say they won't sell it... that omission is a 100% guarantee that *at the very least* they are collecting it and using it for themselves or maybe even exchanging it for something else (not technically selling right?).
@@reezlawwelcome to america, where companies are paying the goverment so the goverment would allow companies to spy on you and sell it back to the goverment
Anyone else want to quote Gabe again?? Surely he has a quote about piracy that applies here…………
Historically, there is a benefit for piracy. Many historical works weren't lost to time because some person decided to copy something. Hell this was the policy for larger libraries for a very long time. If people brought any materials the libraries did not have, they borrowed the works, copied them and returned them to the owner. If you aren't reselling the materials, there should be no penalty for piracy. Future generations deserve all that we can preserve.
That "copy any media we don't already have" policy, began back in the days of the Library of Alexandria. Many works made before the digital era, can be found on those "Seven Seas", in 1080p today. Because the process to scan film, frame by frame at 1920x1080 is far better than trying to upscale a lower resolution digital copy to HD.
As a student historian who is extremely greatful to the ancient people who took the time to handcopy things which are now the only remaining evidence left, I 100% support this 😂 Best known historical example: The Library of ffing Alexandria 😅😢
plex server and VPN 👀
Never thought of it this way, thank you for sharing!
This is why there are a lot of people on the internet are looking for lost media like SuperSonicQ, blameitonjorge, etc. 87% of retro games are critically endangered that's why we need a video game archivists.
"We think there is a fundamental misconception about piracy. Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem." -Gabe Newell
While that is true that does not give you a moral right to pirate
@@oscar12ty If you have no intention of buying the product, it does.
@@oscar12ty and corporations have no moral right to underhandedly gather any information they can get their mitts on instead of making any attempt to improve the user experience of the services they provide.
@@oscar12ty moral rights don't enter into the picture. The better product wins, and often the pirate way is the better way. This is the real world.
Also an availability problem.
Not available where I live? Then I'm a gonna pirate
"The best way to combat video game piracy is to offering consumers better service than they might get from the pirates"
-Gabe Newell
I know this isn't about video games but I feel like that quote still applies
Lord Gaben..
Gabe is truly ahead of his time.
how about zero malware
Remove video games and it applies to everything,
@@andrej7825 I can confirm steam gave me the incentive to buy games. I pirated a lot of games before. Denuvo sucks, but I don't think Steam is to blame here, if they wouldn't allow it on their app that game would become exclusive, and I would rather eliminate the exclusivity first, and removing denuvo second, both would be perfect but alas.
Companies should just drop Denuvo the moment the game gets cracked, but they don't give a shit about their consumers, so we end up here. In the end as long as people pre-order and give them money, they will continue to not give a shit.
It's funny that your experience with Netflix reflects my experience with a browser that doesn't block ads. I've gotten so used to my brave browser that when I was forced to return to using Chrome, because my phone broke and I'm using my old one for a few days until a replacement arrives, I was absolutely shocked at how many ads the average person is being served in a single browsing experience. I thought to myself, is this how the average person experiences the internet? It's slow, frustrating, and you inadvertently click on advertisements for things you never intended to buy. The internet is almost unusable without an ad blocker and that's not hyperbole.
Yeah I despise the idea of a TV I pay a bunch of money for, selling all my personal data/telemetry AND showing me ads in the menus. What a dystopian future we live in.
I was hell pissed off when I spent thousands on my 65” QD-OLED Samsung and saw the menu riddled with ads.
Same here, I bought my Plasma TV a while ago and it turned out one of the "smart" ones. I had to agree to some bullshit just to use it, but when I wanted to try the "smart" features, I had to agree to even more bullshit including various tracking. Needless to say, I just pulled out the network cable. I did nto even want the "smart" features, so whatever, it can show analog TV, DVB-C, HDMI and CVBS in, also has CVBS out when watching analog TV of DVB-C, so I can use my VCR. Good enough.
@@N3G4T3that’s why I buy lg
“One thing that we have learned is that piracy is not a pricing issue. It’s a service issue. The easiest way to stop piracy is not by putting antipiracy technology to work. It’s by giving those people a service that’s better than what they’re receiving from the pirates.”
- Gabe Newell, president of valve.
The thing about that quote is that in 12 years is that it has only become more true.
It's true. I completely stopped pirating games when Steam became a thing.
Gabe is flat out a visionary and I legit worry what will happen when he is gone from this world
@@axt2 that is a scary thought. What'll happen when he's no longer the president of Valve. We can only hope it'll be someone as consumer friendly as he is.
@@AngryReptileKeeper I didn't stop completely, but it fell off massively. If it's on Steam, it gets bought. If not, it gets pirated. What does get pirated is usually either not compiled for Windows or Linux, old enough to vote, or both.
He also said: "Don't ever, ever try to lie to the internet. They will catch you. They will de-construct your spin. They will remember everything you ever say for eternity."
And yet politicians, celebrities, journalists, activists, and billionaires _STILL_ refuse to learn this fucking lesson.
I’d be fine with stuff like Netflix if they also didn’t force advertisements, limit it by location (literally by your household) AND so harshly crack down on streaming. Half the enjoyment is watching stuff with others, it’s so easy to embrace that for these big companies.
As a former Netflix employee, I can confirm that by design 720p is served in the browser, and what they tell us during training, and what we thus ended up explaining in customer service, is that it is a limitation on the browser that won't allow for higher resolution with the exception of Edge which would go to 1080p. We were of course told to push for the native app from the Microsoft Store to get the full 4K resolution. It's been over 5 years since I worked there, though, so I can't say what goes now.
Ye the edge thing was/is real back in the days.
Can't you watch 4k youtube videos though natively in your browser?
@@Nicolas-fo8qd Yes and no. Believe it or not, I bought a 4k movie from YT and I was unable to watch the movie in 4k through my browser. I had to use a proprietary YT application because of DRM.
LoL I have Edge and Brave (along with safari that came in my garbage phone) and I am tech illiterate-like a boomer trapped in a millennial’s body-but am so glad to learn I’ve apparently figured it all out somehow. I love Brave, I download from yt and on I don’t use yt’s garbage app; I use safari browser with an Adblock and can lock my screen and it plays in the background. Complete UA-cam premium (lol except for their “exclusive” garbage content) for the price of $0.👍 This was very informative. I subscribed after this one video. Loved this guy.
If they market it as 4k then they should be sued for being a false actor in the content they claim is better than it is. False advertising.
The most ridiculous thing of all is that their DRM can still be broken. Paying customers don't get what's promised, while the 4K-quality content still gets pirated.
This is why I still buy physical media. Love my 4K and Blu-ray Discs. Can’t be taken away, they sit on my shelf, no subscriptions needed.
This is one of the main reasons I have a stack of CDs on my shelf behind me. No company can take my music away, and I supported my favorite artists.
I watched game of thrones with a streaming service and any of the dark scenes looked terrible, so I got the DVDs from my parents and it looked way better.
Careful of the Blu-ray. A Sony movie disc could bork your Blu-ray player. I was offered a free player because it could only play DVDs because Sony borked it with a movie disk that the owners rented, and Sony wasn't going to send codes to make it work because reasons. After being offered the player, I quit shopping for Blu-ray players
I bought a deluxe blu ray of a movie and received a digital online copy as well! But 5 years later i can no longer access the digital version and am thankful i have the blu ray disc lol
@@ambiarock590 CD becomes unreadable after a while.
Vinyl is pretty much the only physical media that lasts.
This made me think... WTH happened to my iTunes?? All my albums and songs i had in there that i had to manually burn into my computer and click and drag it into my itunes back in the day. Where did that all go🤔
having faith in humanity is easy when you have people like Louis around adding companies and businesses to the grill.
*is hard when you have so very few people like Louis around…
Agreed. Very refreshing to hear. So true about how dealing with most companies goes, it does feel more like you're adversaries rather than partners mutually benefitting from the whole thing.
Honestly Louis, calling companies like Netflix treating their customers as adversaries is still too generous. For that to be true they would have to view their customers as a threat. They don't even treat us like cattle, it is more like we're just raw materials to be broken, mined, and used.
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This is how it feels just being a citizen of the United States.
Right, adversary implies some form of equal or at least that you have some form of leverage over them. You don't. They don't see you on any grounds to be able to stand up to them.
more than a hundred years ago marx was writing that capitalism commodifies not just goods, services and land, but also people.
took y'all a while to catch up to that.
Basically citizens are resource nodes in an RTS game.
It's not just the U.S., governments all over the world do this. There's only one real reason people get into politics.
These companies are engaged in immoral, unethical, predatory practices. Piracy isn't a solution, it's a consequence. I love your videos man, thank you for being a voice on this topic, it's important.
Its not just Netflix being petty. Driving you ("nudging" in their parlance) towards unrepairable, propaganda forcing, devices that spy on you is their goal...one of the terms of their CCP ---> WEF ---> Blackrock/Vanguard/State Street/Berkshire Hathaway ---> ESG-based loans. It's why they don't care about you paying or not. It's the "G" (Governance a.k.a tyranny) in ESG. You will own nothing and be happy.
Immoral? Unethical? Predatory? Please explain. Your agreement to pay for the service is completely voluntary, right?
Matey, did you see literally any of the video you’re commenting this on? Where Louis literally describes how Netflix is actively throttling the video quality of their shows on his computer to try and entice him (and by extension, all other users) into using a smart tv where they can sell off all the data they scrape off him more easily? Where the smart tv’s options to sell off all your data gathered through a device you spent thousands of dollars on is not only opt out, but buried in the options where most people won’t even know that they exist because every company actively tries to obfuscate any potential means of reducing how much control and profit they can squeeze out of you?
@@tzorfireis425Don't forget, the "option" to not get spied on likely doesn't do what it says, just provides them another data point to sell. This is how all the tracking companies view the "do not track" header, for instance.
Yes, because pirates never target smaller companies that do none of this. Wait, yes they do.
This type of braindead take being upvoted by the hundreds legit kills my faith in humanity.
You didn't even get to the end, where Netflix abruptly cuts before the credits to suggest you something to watch next (an ad).
That's why I've been a sailor for almost 40 years and still going strong sailing the high seas today!!
You are a poet sailor. Funny statement.
ahoyy there mateyss!
You’ve been pirating way before you had an issue with Netflix. You simply just don’t care and don’t want to bother paying for content that’s free at your finger tips 😂 your reason has nothing to do with what he’s discussing
@@basedmek anti-consumer practices existed before the internet you know...
@@basedmek "you don't want to bother paying for content that's free at your fingertips" friend... we aren't paying for it because it's NOT free... i know you've seen a fair share of ads since you don't pirate, but have you ever seen an ad for prevagen?
I mean, Gabe Newell really hit the nail on the head like fifteen years ago when he said ”Piracy is an issue of service, not price”
All the stuff I pirate is stuff I can't buy on Steam, and it's usually stuff that needs an emulator, is really old, or both.
I live in a place with unstable internet and countless times have I been locked out of gaming because of Steam's DRM, which wouldn't happen with a pirated game (or with something DRM free from GOG).
Ever since Steam came out, I haven't pirated a single game. When Netflix was new and actually had ALL the shows and not just 10% of them, I happily paid for it. Then every company had their own streaming platform and instead of paying for 10 services, I suddenly changed over to FMovies. Greed killed streaming platforms.
Steam and the games on it have DRM all over. GOG is where its at if you want to actually own the games you buy
Not going to pay $300 for a service even if it beats piracy.
Love to hear that Louis's GF shares his concerns about privacy as well. So many of the people in my life would just say "why do you care, you're being paranoid and ruining the night" if I took a detour to experiment like this.
You need new people.
@B11video heh, I understand the sentiment, but they're ultimately still good people on the whole and I appreciate them in my life. Besides, I do already have other friends who care about this sort of thing as much as I do, if not more. I'm actually pretty normie myself by the standards of some of them lol
I also live this life. It has reached the point I don't bring it up because I feel weird. Like the flat earther in the room. 😅
I dated girls, having Alexa listening the whole time at home. Once I find out, I'm gone 😂
The thing that truly made me believe that piracy is justified is the way UA-cam handles movie streaming. I bought a movie not too long ago, hadn't bought one on UA-cam before. I go down to the settings tab to change the resolution and see that it doesn't go above 480p. But I go on my phone and I can see it in HD. I go on a TV and I can watch it in HD. But not while I'm on my pc on the website.
Yes that's right, if you buy the HD version of a movie, you won't be able to watch it in HD if you're on pc. UA-cam literally refuses to give you the product that you PAID for.
The moment you start thinking, "We need DRM to protect our bottom line," you are already in an adversarial relationship with your customers. DRM does NOTHING to stop piracy. What it does do is annoy your paying customers by giving them a worse experience than what they would get for free through piracy while simultaneously having the equivalent of a big flashing neon sign that says, "I DON'T TRUST MY OWN CUSTOMERS!" You are completely justified on this!
That is why GOG is so good, you get games without any protection, you can download the install files of the game, store it anywhere and do anything you want with it (and get as much as bonus content as possible like lossless soundtrack of the game, scanned manuals, maps, etc) plus the games stay in your account and you can download them in their purest preservation quality, without any bullshit. I bought a game many times on GOG because I can download it ANYTIME I WANT FROM THEIR SERVERS in high speed, and store it for future/other computers, meanwhile I never downloaded a game from EPIC even when it was offered for free, because I do not want to turn on an app everytime I wanna play something so it tracks my data etc.
You nailed it. Preach.
they use DRM because it takes a while and a lot of effort to crack so people who would crack it buy it because they dont want to wait but yeah
I was a 10+ year subscriber to Netflix, once they stopped allowing password sharing I cancelled my account and went back to pirating and I'll never go back
Same. I already paid for 5 screens, no way in hell i'm letting netflix double dip.
Since KAT is gone, what do you use?
They allowed it if you use VPN in my case. Under one account you can create multiple users.
Piracy makes me feel so much better every time I download something. Just knowing that I am making these garbage companies lose out on that money
But just imagine how many people signed up for Netflix after they stopped allowing password sharing just for that feature!
Extremely valid points. Now how do we convince these companies to actually provide a service that is worth paying for without hoping everyone will vote with their wallet?
Only market pressure can achieve this end, and sometimes not even then. Punish deviant companies by refusing to pay them, and get the word of mouth out to enhance the pain. Reward compliant companies with your patronage.
Contrary to popular belief boycots don't work, there will always be people who know no better or just don't care that will pay for garbage product. Realistically we need to annoy our politicians so much they would pass laws to prohibit this.... except they won't as they are the one's profiting most from all that data. So yeah...
That's the problem: the majority of people are voting with their wallet by continuing to pay for Netflix. We already "lost the election" so to speak. Voting with your wallet is useless, you'd have to make some noise and hope enough people join you that Netflix pays attention and agrees to improve things.
That's part of the problem. We don't need to convince anyone of nothing. The companies without our money are nothing. It's up to them to understand that. Blockbuster, Toys r us, Quiznos, and the list go on and on. Ego could make float a business for a while (after all, ego is lighter than air) but it never has been a profitable model.
numerous people compile various ways each company is stealing and lying about their service and file class actions lawsuits. Really would be best if people went after MULTIPLE services over a quick span of time to prove a point people are feed up with the past 30+ years.
I would think if netflix has been doing this for quite some time they potential stand to suffer catastrophic damage. Millions of customers stolen from technically.
Netflix has been charging me $35/mon for like 6 months!
You know, if Netflix didn't lie to Louis about the service he thought he was paying for, he wouldn't have less of an argument. But they took his money for 4K streaming and gave him 720p. That's fraud.
I think they charge you the highest tier just to be able to use multiple devices.
They'll say "up to 4K" in their legal agreement to cover their asses on that front.
@@ShaimingLong I'm sure you can't load in paragraphs which require a mathematician and Venn diagram to decipher which results in " We're not going to give you what we're charging you for because you couldn't read the fine print."
Netflix can't afford to anger any paying customers at this point... yet here we are.
Anyone who is invested in any tech company should get out of it soon. The VC money is gone and there are no new customers.
That's OK then as Louis is paying up to the amount they are asking to watch their videos.
yes but they need to have a reason why that "up to" point isn't being met, Specifically, when all the requirements TO meet that point are met.
IT would be like if ISP's were selling people gigabit Fiber, installing all the hardware to easily handle gigabit fiber, testing to insure the property is actually connecting at gigabit speeds.... and then artificially limiting everyone's connection to like 80 down and 20 up themselves.
That's still fraud.
Media companies have not only killed the golden goose that was streaming services, they have stretched it out thinly to the size of a football field. The thing that had the single biggest impact to reduce piracy in Australia, a piracy crazy nation as we are, was Netflix making content conveniently available fore a nominal fee. There was a serious drop in piracy. But now with the fragmentation and so many services splitting the media up it's right back where it was.
My dumbest example. Buying an eBook. Australia is in it's own publishing/media market. I spent an hour trying to find somewhere to pay $20 for an eBook. Nope, out of stock in all the Australian stores and not available in your region at International ones. It took me 5 minutes to pirate it, including the download on out shitty internet.
How the hell is a digital ebook out of stock?
@@justicedemocrat9357licensing agreements can get very convoluted very fast
@@justicedemocrat9357as he said Australia is in it’s own market. No publisher there actually released the book
An ebook out of stock? o.o
Did I miss something?
/edit: Never mind. I read the other comments.
Netflix never had everything.
What did you do when something you want wasn't on netflix?
Anti-piracy measures almost always end up hurting paying customers more than pirates. Back when I used to watch physical media, there would be anti-piracy ads. You know who didn't have to sit through those ads? Pirates.
The one in The Simpsons movie was actually funny, though.
A friend of my dad's had a side hustle selling VHSes copied from his personal library. He always made sure to keep the FBI anti-piracy warning, and if there wasn't an anti-piracy ad, he would add one. He thought it was hilarious
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I remember seeing those "you wouldn't steal a car" ads on UA-cam and thinking that they're memes or gags from some comedy show. It was even more hilarious when I found out that they weren't.
I never understood what those hip and cool with the kids "ads" were for, until I grew up and I was like oh its like the D.A.R.E. program, letting me know that there is actually a better way to enjoy life (pls don't do drugs they're harmful)
Hey.. compatibility can’t be understated!
As someone who owns a sizeable physical media collection, this video really speaks to me. I understand the apparent "convenience" of services like Netflix, Amazon Prime, Disney+ etc., but have found that whenever I need/want to stream something I have issues of one sort or another and I just much prefer to pop in a disc and skip the hassle.
I too believe in paying for things where possible but when I get told that "X isn't available in your region" or Spotify suddenly drops some music that I previously had saved in Playlists etc., it makes me want to seek it elsewhere as it really shouldn't be this difficult.
I think CDs will have a (slight) resurgence in popularity because of what you say.
The quality is high, they are easily portable/storable, they last a lifetime, and you can truly own what you bought. The other aspect is for music: you get to have the artwork in your hands like with vinyl but again in a more compact format.
I'm buying all my favourite albums in CD form for the above reasons.
What's the site he keeps trying to tell us with 'Fish and net'?
@@SavNout01 He's referring to pirating things when he says that.
@@Philip_Taylor They should last a lifetime (50 to 100 years, according to one study), but my Wife's collection that has sat on a shelf for a long time has degraded after some 30+ years. Not stored in perfect condition, but in their cases on shelves or in boxes, not scratched or left in damp conditions. My wife loves her large CD collection - but is worried that it'll degrade. Maybe it's the older ones that are the problem, though, and modern CDs will last the higher estimated lifetimes.
@@SavNout01 not a specific one, the fish is the content, the net is the internet.
What’s really messed up is that quite a lot of piracy sites offer better and more reliable video quality than actual streaming services.
There was a "netlfix only " anime I decided to watch, and Netflix did not get the new episodes on the day they were released. I discovered that a different website DID get the episodes on time.
People swear that Prime is good for them, but it looks like shite to me
and more subtitles and a better searching function
@@paulc5389If it has better services than the pirates, they will pay for it.
Especially the aniwave manga fire flixwave etc group, everything you could ever want plus a good UI and UE
As someone who works in the IT field, I can say this with confidence. There are two types of IT people:
1. Those who have smart EVERYTHING.
2. And those who avoid Smart EVRYTHING.
There are 10 kinds of people in the world: Those who understand binary code and those who don't understand binary code.
I'm the second kind mainly because I'm poor, but even if I had the means, I would still avoid smart devices out of principle.
1. the something with IT people
2. the actual IT people
I'm in the second camp.
I lounge bond
What sucks is that these things are most annoying to poor people, and when we poor folk complain, everyone says "it's just because you're poor." Well now I've got a reference to throw in the ring. Say it's just because I'm poor now, eh? Newsflash: poor folks see these issues first because it's a bigger deal to us! Thank you for your content. Got a sub from me
Yes, piracy is justified.
And so is using Open Source Software over Closed Sourced "Services".
You are paying for the support, not the service.
@@MarkoIronFist And the "support" is them telling you to go F yourself. Any support one needs can be found within 2 minutes via Google. The "support" (that never helps) is open from 8AM until 8:01AM. It is odd how the free option is so much more willing to provide help.
@@MarkoIronFist I'd happily use Photoshop without the support, I don't need help to make it work. But they insist on making me pay, so I don't use it at all.
@@henryfleischer404 Then do not use and instead utilize the free alternatives that do not offer support but can still photoshop images just as well as adobe.
@@henryfleischer404 Then use GIMP
Classic DRM, hurting the paying customers and not stopping piracy.
My biggest gripe is that it used to be economical to cut the cable and purchase a streaming service. Now the content is so diluted over 15 streaming services that by the time you pay for them all it's astronomical. Now they are putting limits in how many devices and using more than one location. Traveling for work and spending time at different vacation spots is impossible due to limitations. Heaven forbid I might give my daughter at college the passwords so that I don't have to pay ridiculous tuition and her own streaming services! She IS my daughter.
netflix exec screeching at the top of their lungs in a harpy voice- "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE NO THAT'S STEALING I DON'T CARE SHE'S AT A SEPARATE PHYSICAL LOCATION AND NOT PAYING SO THAT'S NOT ALLOWED HURRRR DURRR I ENJOY THE TASTE OF MY OWN ASS"
they genuinely don't care, they're still trying to chase the elusive "infinite exponential growth" that all these moronic companies think they can achieve like YT... had 38 billion views last year and google made 29 billion in profit but "REEEEEE NO AD BLOCKERS WE'RE LOSING SO SO SO SO SO SO SO MUCH MONEY FROM THE 4% OF OUR USER BASE THAT HAS ADBLOCK INSTALLED!!!! IT DOESN'T MATTER IF OUR REVENUE IS 8,999,999% WE NEED 9,500,000% IDC IF IT'S IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE PLANET THAT CAN WATCH YT, DOES WATCH YT ALREADY, MAKE IT HAPPEN! SCREW OUR CURRENT CUSTOMERS IF NEED BE! DADDY NEEDS HIS 87th YACHT!"
this is when your own plex server comes in handy, I would rather spend thousands for storage and create my own plex server, more manual labor, sure, but i get to keep the content forever and have my lost media archived
Not to mention of how broken so many systems are in the world
@@dylancoulbeck7483 yes to this. I've been using plex for years now in it's simplest possible implementation: external HDs connected to a desktop. I'm finally hitting the point where I'm starting to upgrade at least some media to 4k versions with better sound options, and I know that the time is coming when a NAS will be needed...
But I'd rather spend the time and effort to figure out how to set all of that up, and get bazaar and whatnot up and running, then deal with netflix and similar services. NF just upped their prices yet AGAIN - and my son at college can't even use the service that I AM PAYING FOR.
I wouldn't say that this justifies piracy - at the end of the day piracy is still breaking the law - but it certainly EXPLAINS it if nothing else.
I pay $140/month for 1g internet and 200+ cable channels (with a local sports package). It was cost effective to cut the cord for maybe a period of 3 years (3 years ago), it no longer is. That internet without the cable gets marked up not being in a bundle then UA-cam TV or HULU live is $73-$77/m. It's already the same price as cable tv with internet.
It's crazy to think that the majority of consumers paying aren't getting what they paid for..
Glad I stumbled upon this channel after youtube started their crusade. I was close to getting premium too until they cracked down then I was like Nah im not gonna be coerced into it now. As far as netflix goes. I noticed this years ago, trying to watch a show and it looks all blocky and shitty. Trying to contact netflix customer support they were just like "lol get a better internet connection". So sick of companies treating their customers so poorly
Yea don't get premium. If u have android u can use revanced extended
Fr I was entertaining the thought of premium until I learned that you need to give them your address and all that. Now it's adblock all the way.
I have a local library within 300 ft (100 m) of me which rents out DVDs and Blu-rays for free. So, I ditched NF in August 2023 after they ended sharing, and have been going with DVDs ever since. I still use Max and Prime though. Cowboy Bebop, One Piece, Star Trek Discovery, Who K****d the Electric Car (2006 documentary), Blue Beetle etc, all for free at the library, and I can use the library card online... If only the library website could create an algorithm based upon DVDs watched.
Also, my TV is not a smart TV. It is a Roku stick and a Sony DVD player attached to the back of an LG 43UN700 monitor with a remote and built in speakers with no smarts inside.
@@bigsoda4276Idk about other countries but here in Brazil they started blocking the video player if you have adblocker on. If anything, this made me not want to get the premium even more out of pure pettiness
Dude, same.
I even got around youtube's blocking running videos with your phone screen locked. I go through my browser with a plugin, screw their app. It's crazy that they want me to pay them and give over all of this info just to have videos play with the screen locked. They actually just cordoned that off to upsell YTP.
There was a point where that fix just stopped working with my phone. It was an old phone with hardware problems though. So instead of paying youtube, I bought a new phone lol. That is how allergic I am to paying UA-cam for anything now.
Call me crazy... I don't think that actively sabotaging and downgrading the free service is a good way to drum up sales for the paid one. What happens when I pay? You roll out a package tier above mine and move some of the features there once I become dependent on them? On principle, I can't support this approach.
It's bad enough pay raises often don't match cost of living increases. On one end, you have less and less buying power every year, for the same work. On the other end, companies are being more stingy with what they give you for your money. It's never been easier for a person to give up on such expenses than now. These companies will suffer greatly for this, no social movement even needed. The markets themselves will punish them. They're going to learn how little people actually need them, and how they only ever took them because those people saw it as the most favorable option. Make piracy the better experience, and you will lose to that every time.
Dang man, I feel like I have more at risk with the ads on legit services than I do chances of catching a miner bug on a pirated movie or game. I swear, they have more pride in what they do than Netflix, which is pathetic. And they never ask for a sign-up.
Crazy how the people running these companies don't seem to know this. Did they fire everybody who went through it back in the last piracy boom? It wasn't THAT long ago.
My Plex Server and Blu Ray collection salutes all of you! I've had to show friends why there's a noticeable difference when you watch a movie from physical media than when you do from a streaming service. Plus, crappy Netflix forces you to pay for 4 screens to get 4K content, but you cannot have your family using your account. I thought it was a concurrent license for 4 users, not 4 screens at the same IP address, that is so predatory.
Dude it makes me feel crazy when people are like “I don’t care I don’t think there’s even a difference, why do you have so many discs?” ITS THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IMAGINABLE AHHHHHH
Some time ago I wanted to watch Pacific Rim again, my favourite movie, and since the last time I've watched it I bought a nice 4K television, a nice audio setup and I could watch it at the volume I really wanted to, I wanted to do it properly and find the best quality I could.
The 4k version is 50GB, so I decided to BUY the digital version from amazon. 5 bucks for the 4k version.
I started watching it and OH GOD IT FUCKING SUCKED. the audio was really compressed, really loud but NO definition, but the worst part was the COMPRESSION ARTIFACTS. on a BOUGHT version, it was still COMPRESSED AS SHIT. literally unwatchable.
Needless to say I looked for it elsewhere. And I will NEVER buy a digital movie again.
another anecdote, I was once watching the lastest Coming to America movie, and there was a scene of beautiful african dances with the dancers wearing amazing, colorful clothes, and at the end of the dance all of them threw their gown over their head while the camera was shooting from above, and the compression algorithm must've had a stroke because it became a clusterfuck of pixels without any sense.
Paid service BTW.
@@Nomad_Balwhere do you find 50gb BD files? asking for a friend
@@ForeverHobbit
Private trackers. Good luck getting access into a good one.
The sheer number of times I've had to pirate a show because my streaming services arbitrarily dropped it for a week or a month for some obscure licensing reason. Because piracy has always been an option in the toolkit, I don't reflect often enough on how crappy these services actually are. To say nothing of cases where the stream version is worse or has fewer options (poor cropping, poor subtitles, fewer audio tracks, etc) and the pirated copies have way more options.
My dad pays for 3 streaming services and my friend lets me borrow a 4th. I still need to pirate shows and videos because you literally cannot find it anywhere else...
@@Ari.K99that’s why a computer nice hard drive and plex is all you need
As much as something not being available to watch, at all or at certain times, I don't have that big of an issue with licensing situations, and it's why I still prefer to buy a DVD or a CD, so that I have it whenever I want. The issue that I have with digital media is that you pay for things, don't own them, and can have them taken away from you at any time. I've bought a few movies through Google digitally, and every day I wake up thinking that one day that $14.99 I paid will go to waste as I may not be able to watch that movie tonight. Same with streaming music. Albums that I LOVE and unfortunately would have to dig through boxes of CDs to find will disappear from streaming things randomly for whatever reason. I've been out of the piracy game for so long that I don't know where to turn to find things anymore, so most times, I just have to suffer in silence.
This is the worst. I like old movies, old shows, and real indie music. Most of the time no paid subscription service has what i want. So i pirated it every time. Now i pirate literally everything, because public torrents trackers have all i need dumped in highest quality, every movie with dozens of different subtitles and audio tracks, every music album perfectly tagged, and ALL of it is conveniently downloaded with a single bittorrent client program of my choice.
@@Ari.K99where the hell do you even pirate shows today i cant find any sides that look legit and dosent want to steal everyhing
Gabe was always right. Piracy is a service problem not a pricing problem, that's how Steam drastically reduced piracy in PC gaming. The streaming services are looking to relearn these lessons at this rate.
There's an issue where on average younger gen z and gen alpha don't understand computers, at all. Piracy has a chance of dying off with older gen z. Especially since gen z has an issue where they treat corporations as Christ and IP law as the Bible.
I have friends/mentees who just entered college that lost entire social circles because they didn't drop 200 bucks for a used game and instead loaded games off of the console directly, because the game has been off the market since before they were born.
Exactly, when legit companies gives you a better service than the pirates, people will buy it for their own convenience instead of wracking their brain to figures things work, unless if it was inaccessible for them.
@@backlogbuddiesnah mate it's only in western countries outside the US and Western Europe piracy is very well alive and healthy.
@@backlogbuddiesthat's problem exclusively happens in US 😂😂😂😂😂 Most gamer in Eastern europe, Brasil, Argentina, Latam, India, China, and all over Asia still using piracy daily 😂😂😂😂😂
are you sure? steam no longer protects players, they not only allowed to infect steam with leftoids, but also every game channel is moderated by volunteers leftoids that ban you for any criticism, fanboys, bots that shame you. i can understand free game or software, but not when you paid full 70$ and first patch is rlsed after 3 weeks like outriders. btw what imbecile rlses game at easter and april fool day. everybody will be home with family instead fix game
You are 100% right. It is exactly what I see in the industry.
15 years ago I tried to pay $15 to download a movie from the Apple Store, just because I could afford it and wanted a simple experience.
After over an hour of frustration because the download was hanging, in a bout of Tourette’s, I downloaded the movie using bit torrent in 15 minutes and enjoyed the movie. I thought just like you.
WTF is wrong with this picture. I’m willing to pay $15 and get nothing but frustration. Do these morons really think they can stomp out piracy by penalizing their paying customers?
I guess the answer must be yes, since they haven’t learned anything in 15 years.
that's just how capitalism works.
profits over people.
I still have BitTorrent what torrent site do you useasking for my dog 🐕
you have not heard about the Piracy law firms here in Europe that send you a invoice and claim you downloaded a pirate video with no evidence of you doing it. and took you to court then you didnt paid the "fake" invoice...
That reminds me of a university class. Our professor walked in and ranted about how most of the students were home. Problem is he was talking to the only ones that were actually there.
@@SchmidtDrums 🤣
There are 2 kinds of pirates:
a) People who are willing to pay for stuff on more amenable terms.
b) Those who will never pay for anything.
Group A are the ones you want to turn into customers by providing a proper accessible service, per the quote attributed to GabeN.
Group B will never be customers, no matter what you do, but their acts are actually more symbiotic than parasitic. They increase your market/mind share across the commons, which in turn draws more customers and more of both kinds of pirates; counterintuitively, they're essentially free marketing.
Executives for some reason think there is a mythical group C, where if piracy wasn't an option, would immediately pay their obeisances to consume the product/service.
There isn't, you're eliminating A from your customer pool, eliminating the symbiotic marketing power of B, and giving your customers a worse product.
Free marketing makes people recognize your product and basically free advertisement on itself.
I belong to Group B and I can attest to that!
They are turning A into B if we are being honest. Just wait until atsc 3.0 goes live and they shut off 1.0 and piss all the cable cutters off. Most new stations are already encrypted and have seen many talking about paying for a box plus subscription to decrypt the local OTA channels as a way to make consumers pay for OTA TV. I think some of my local channels are talking about leaving the .1 free but anything else requires a fee so they don't end up possibly breaking the law.
This is the best explanation of the reality of media piracy I've ever seen, so good job!
Group B people cannot be "converted" into monetizable Group C people, and it's actually counterproductive to try. Like, look at how UA-cam is approaching its ad-block war. "Pay or watch ads" is their message, because users who do neither are a drain on their resources without contributing anything. Makes sense, yes? To an idiot, at least. The fact of the matter is that the people who are using ad-blocking software are an entirely separate group in the userbase Venn diagram to the people who will generate money for UA-cam's advertisers. And so there is literally no benefit to showing them ads - UA-cam is WASTING resources doing so, and they will not recoup the cost, because the value of a CPM will go down, as sure, maybe more people will watch ads for 30 seconds, enabling them to cash in...but advertisers will see a decrease in the effectiveness of their campaigns, reducing what they're willing to pay for impressions.
Now the consequences of this reality are probably not so severe on their own - it's not as if UA-cam currently has to fear losing market share to a competitor...they're the only game in town. The bigger problem is that a large number of Group A people who have been watching ads and who might even support the odd advertiser, never knew they had a CHOICE to not watch ads, and get the same service, for free. So as ad-blockers get better (due to UA-cam's initiation of an arms race on this subject), more people will start to use them, further taking away UA-cam's ability to monetize content. And another slightly more amusing issue is that all of this is happening at the expense of actual creators, on whom UA-cam relies for...everything really. Because lots of people are willing to pay creators directly in Patreon (for example), but NOT willing to pay UA-cam (directly with a premium membership, or indirectly by being a loyal, ad-watching dummy). And thus people are paying for content that UA-cam is trying to prevent them from watching! How do we think THAT will impact creators?
It's pretty crazy that there is even an option for companies to sell your personal information. You're not supposed to be able to give away your constitutional rights in a contract.
I've known several people who pirated music back when that was a big thing. When I asked why they didn't simply pay for it, their reply was 'I would, if it was available. I only pirate stuff that I can't buy legally.' This started me down the road of 'I'll pay...IF you actually sell it.'
Yeah. Louis would pay for a good service, but you get shitty service from Netflix and very good fron pirates.
whihc sites and osurces do you use to pirate stuff perhaps a guied tutorial on odysee etc ??
Based mp3 enjoyer vs cringe Spotify subscriber.
@@KenWilliams-tg1dpwell, you have to do your own research. There are no one single website for everything. You need to go to specific places. Sometimes really shady places.
@@DonVetto-vx9dd is vpn mandatory or just tor browser would suffice ??