I have the 11” M2 cellular iPad Pro and it’s definitely a ‘freeing’ sort of device. You can pop it open ANYWHERE (on the bus, in the middle of a field), work on something with cellular, close it, and go. No wifi to worry about, and phone OSes are apps are built to be interrupted. The small size also makes it super easy to use on the go (I personally think 11” is the sweet spot), and my MacBook is now getting a lot less usage.
I wish I had the new one, it would be so useful with that amazing calculator, man I’m doing Geometry over the summer right now, and get algebra 2 my next school year, that new IOS 18 ipad calculator would be so useeful
All depends on what you want and need in a computer. - No Macbooks have OLED - cheaper Macbooks don’t have promotion or good speakers like the iPad Pro - no pencil and touch input on MacBooks - it’s the only computer you need for non professional work - and for professional work Windows machines are often better iPads are fun, Macbooks are boring
@@Isengardtomwho cares i woud rather use my 2013 MacBook pro than this slab of an iPad a computer is different than a tablet for most computer users oh yeah and it has no cooling fan
- No Macbooks have OLED -- YET, just wait for the ones with OLED - Macbooks usually have better speakers than iPad + The iPad can never take advantage of the full power of the M4 due to iPadOS + For the same price you can get a Macbook Air, that will do much more than this iPad, which is why people say its a nerfed Macbook If you just want to browse netflix or do some light work, you can get a comparable Samsung or Android tablet at or below the same price, which have had OLED screen and Pen Input for a long time already now.
This video is 16 minutes , but Arun's window background started with daylight and ended with darkness. We appreciate the long work you put through the videos.
@@lightningjack27UA-cam viewers when the reviewer actually gets to the point and reviews the product instead of inserting 5 hours of filler between every two relevant sentences that come out of their mouth :- 😭
One big use for iPads: music! The full-size iPad pros with a foot pedal to turn pages are legitimately the best way to store music at this point, basically no matter what. The only issue is that if they freeze during a performance you’re screwed, but they’re still really nice. Plus, paper has the exact same issue, just in different ways (missed or failed page turn, music falls off stand, for some reason your part’s in the wrong order, etc)
Not just sheet music, the new ipad pros can run the mac version of logic so music creation can be done professionally anywhere. It's the perfect way to collab with someone anywhere. (The pro stands for professional use for a reason)
When you realize they changed all the sizes from 12.9 inch to 13 inch or 10.9 to 11inch to "be more clean" when in reality you old magic keyboards are now obsolete and you need to buy some more
The millionth tech UA-camr saying he will replace his laptop, but never ends up doing it because the lack of a cooling fan in the iPad means it runs much slower than the macbook for prolonged work like video editing.
It's not about the fan, which either MacBook Air has it. More about the software side, these "pro apps" they keep calling is the "kiddie" version of the actual pro apps they have on Windows/Mac
It’s because it can do a lot but it’s still technically more inefficient and time consuming to do things on it since it’s limited by the iPad OS. People really want to be able to replace their computer with it because it’s everything in one but the software just makes it not an amazing experience
After few months he and everyone else will make a video why the new apple iPad pro was not what they expected or titles like 3600$ waste bec not upto mark It's the same cycle for all of them
Was great to briefly see you… 😅 but yeah… the points you made at 15 minutes, as someone that’s always been excited about an iPad eventually replacing my Mac, I don’t think this iPad Pro will simply because there’s no ‘pro’ currently in iPadOS unfortunately. Dunno solid hardware but it’s still just an iPad.
I’m ok with my iPad Pro 12.9 m2 256 gb and my Apple Pencil. What I have is such an over kill , if you are just a student who just writes notes and play games. 😅😅
7:36 I don't think Apple will allow the iPad to have 100% software functionality and support of the Mac, regardless of how powerful the M4 chip in the iPad is. This is because they will likely want you to buy both the iPad and the Mac, and offering full compatibility might cannibalize Mac sales.
It’s a shame because that didn’t used to be Apples mentality. When they launched the iPhone, they knew it would cannibalize the iPods but did it because they knew it was innovation and would suit them better in the long run. Why can’t Apple make a Mac/iPad combo? Basically make the Mac Screen an iPad, then have the keyboard attach at the bottom with all the extra chips for added power? When you attach the tablet part, it becomes “MacMode” then when you detach, it goes to “iPad Mode” Honestly that would be an incredible device if they could pull it off and Apple should be able too with all their in house chips.
@@alvinamana1459 typical apple hater...I'm sure you haven't actually used an iPad for it's intended purpose. I still have an M1 iPad Pro, and abolutely love it. And I'm saying this as a PC user with RTX 3070 Ti powered system as well. Just becasue you don't see the purpose doesn't mean it has no merit. I would say that iPad is stagnating and Apple really needs to get the software to compete with Windows, Mac, and Linux in terms of power user tools. But some things work far better on the iPad than any of my desktops
Theres no way the ipad would replace a laptop, same reason why no tablet ever will - if I am apple and I can sell you 2 different devices, I am not going to make one of them obsolete and hurt my own bottom line
I have an 11” iPad Pro 2022 and I use it for just about everything, I use it far more than my Samsung Tab S9 Ultra. They are both basically laptop replacement tablets, the versatility of both devices is incredible!
The biggest downside of the iPad has been the lack of software. We are getting closer. But as a 3D artist, it's not there. If Zbrush is any good on the iPad later this year that would be a game changer. I mean I would still need marvelous and substance but hopefully Zbrush being on iPad encourages everyone else to hop on.
There are a lot of touchscreen laptops or pc tabs. iPad is only thin because it's not supposed to handle those softwares. They wouldn't put pc operating system on it for a reason, it's because the thermals will never work with that form factor, that's why with same specs there is or will be a laptop too to do those things.
@@shizuxowrong 😂 the software is nothing. Apple is withholding. I have an $500 air 5 with M1 chip and there’s nothing available that makes it skip a beat. I honestly don’t know what ole buddy is planning to do with his much more expensive one. The air 5 is also very thin and light
I, too, was very excited to get my M2 12.9" iPad Pro. A year and a half later, I still use my laptop for everything, and use the $1200 ipad for watching netflix on the sofa. It's such a great device, but useless for me when I can just use my computer, or a phone.
Soooo true exactly same here, I’m designer bough iPad on release of m1 though would be a great addition to my work making things on computer then going to iPad to draw somethings over it but men, it always turns into disaster saving files and working then it just doesn’t work, so many times I try it and always lost so much time for nothing now it’s just a website responsive tester for me, and sometimes watch some UA-cam, everything else on my Mac and iPhone thousand times faster, iPad is just a fifth wheel in the work process
I spend 1500 euros on that still feel ashamed about it, I only can imagine using it if they base iPad os on Mac OS it’s the only way, so we have a real desktop space and can have many windows one over another and can adjust them like we want and save files everywhere like on a mac then yess it will be very great decide if not it’s just a gimmick.
You cannot be a power user and do that. I swapped to an IPad Pro when my laptop died and it’s working, but I’m mostly writing with the occasional spreadsheet. For my uses, it’s overpowered. Even then, the laptop it replaced a $500 craptop from Best Buy, and I spent $1200 replacing it with this thing and the Magic Keyboard, so still not good bang for the buck considering I could get a MacBook Air for less.
"This is the first time since like 2013 that it really felt to me like tablets are not just big phones" said while swiping up on the home bar on a 11 inch tablet to show an iPhone home screen
Try Samsung s5e with oled screen that you can buy for £150. Don't fall for the hype and take mortgage to give Tim 300% profit margin for screens sourced from actual manufacturers like Samsung and LG. Apple doesn't own a single factory. They are just a middle man, marketing brand who pray on people's desire to own expensive things to brag about.
@@RobloxianX MacOS then yeah, it would be perfect. What I meant is Arun literally explained that it is in between both Mac and iPhone. "Not just a big phone" yk
Bought one last week for university and editing photos. It's thin, it's light, has a great screen and allows me to take handwritten notes without having to carry around pen and paper. I suck at typing on laptop keyboards so this really is the best thing for my needs. And it's more versatile. I have my desktop PC for anything I can't or don't want to do on the iPad. And since it has a touchscreen I can use it literally anywhere, regardless of what I'm doing. Though I have to admit, it was expensive as hell.
Recently I've stopped watching MRWTB videos... They are flashy, really well made etc... But core reason why I've watched his videos were cause of my decisions should I buy this or that product... Now it's... I run benchmark on mobile. It overheats, it's really bad phone.. (Meanwhile Serbian UA-cam Channel called Benchmark did do pretty professional review of the same phone where they did mention overheat on 3d Mark benchmark I think, they still showed how phone doesn't have any problems with any games, overheating or daily use outside that same benchmark. highly recommended it while MRWTB was sceptical of it by not doing properly something that almost nobody uses and doesn't have any use...) So yeap... Flashing products, money and doing for videos for views and money isn't that cool to look at anymore.
@@ddrfreak4578maybe for you but to the other millions of people that watch his vids it seems they find them entertaining 😂 your just hating on him to try to advertise the other guys yt channel and mrwtb vids are filled with a lot of useful info
Yep. Unless there are some iPad OS fundamental changes his childlike enthusiasm is going to peter off in a few months of purchase and he’ll be making a video entitled “why I went back to my MacBook and dumped my iPad.” I predict it will be a middle ground and he’ll end up using his iPad mostly as a second screen for his MacBook.
My girl purchased the 2nd gen pro years ago and paid a lot for it including years of insurance she never used and the only thing she ever does it watch youtube check her email. She could have gotten something a quarter of the price that does the same thing Plus this was all on credit so took a couple years to pay off while I was doing the same thing and more on a much cheaper tablet.
Yes, especially because every feature mentioned I already know about because my Samsung tablet (Galaxy Tab S9 +) can already do. And it's just as thin.
@@VeederRootI don’t think apple has ever sponsored anyone ever. I think he just doesn’t know that as powerful as the iPad is there are no applications that take advantage of its speed. He’ll probably figure that out soon.
@@averydee5328 apple sends free tech to everybody all the timeso they use it in their vids for exposure, this also leads to people saying good things abt the products becasue they didnt have to pay for them
Yes true, you have nailed the points... Portability, Apps over websites, music, photos, steaming, ebooks, pen, games, maps, detachable keyboard, touch, its modern, and laptop feels boring. Also its easy to connect and interact with smart home / devices ..
Arun definitely has not known about the Magic Keyboard for decades last like 4 years. He was so impressed by the new one yet talking mostly about things that are not new 😂
Once you notice it, he does this a lot. I don't know if it's in case the person watching doesn't know about the products or to stretch the runtime. But he does it a lot.
Because I have 18m subscribers, because I can , so I create content on it and not feel a dent in my bank account. That’s why. No hate though good for him 😂
Even is today's world where the majority of web traffic is on mobile/tablet devices... the web just still doesn't feel at all designed for it, to me. The amount of times I'll abandon a checkout on my phone to pick back up on my computer because I was frustrated and having issues is astronomical.
That's what the tablet does best, better than phone and portable and almost as good as computer experience if not as good or better. I don't enjoy searching for flights km phones but do on tablet and laptop
This is why people are gravitating to going iPad only. So many ppl object by saying “why not just get a MacBook”. They don’t understand the appeal of having one device that does it all. A tablet when you want it, a laptop when you need it. I’m glad you’re starting to see the light!
you need a phone and a pc. tablet can't replace neither one of those completely, so it's just a niche. If anything, Surface Book is much more useful, being actual laptop with powerful graphics while still having option to disconnect screen and use as tablet.
@@blasiankxng🧢 It’s way more than enough to download all the audiobooks I ever listened to, no way it wouldn’t be enough for all the music you listen to
Despite the iPad pro getting the M4 chip & OLED screen, removing the ultra wide camera and bumping the price up by $200-300 still feels like a little too much. And considering you would have to buy more Apple hardware and software to fully utilize the product, I dont feel like this should be recommended to the average consumer under any circumstances anymore...
@@whitemilkcocoYou’re forgetting about the actual differences between iOS and android, where a Samsung needs 16gb of ram an Apple product can match it with 4gb of ram due to its system being precisely optimized for it. Android on the other hand is open source and is not optimized for any phone in particular. Also with the hardware part: Did you watch the complete video? Samsung still uses PHONE chips which are much worse than a m4 chip. Therefore your comment doesn’t make much sense. (I don’t mean this in an offensive way, I’m just correcting you)
@@slayyer2nd170 dude saying Apple 4GB = Samsung 16GB is the most Apple Fanboy copium thing I've ever heard. Apple *is* better at RAM management and optimization, but realistically it's more like Apple 8GB = Samsung 12GB. My 2017 iPad Pro with 4GB of RAM definitely can *NOT* keep up with my Samsung N20U with 12GB of RAM.
I honestly prefer going to a website on my mobile devices compared to an app because storage management is something I really struggle with and websites barely take up any storage compared to the app.
Believe me, no tablet deserve this price tag. All the things he mentioned are justification that every tech company provide at the launch, which to be honest never provide value for money.
I see the appeal, I’m in art school in graphic design and I have a friend who categorically refuses to use a mac, he’s fine with ipads tho. He specialises in illustration and for him an ipad was game changing, he drew like 3 times more and better. The crazy expensive ipad from the video is the crazy maxed out one, nobody needs that i agree, but a 1500-2000€ ipad is completely acceptable. Why ? just look at the premium graphic tablets prices, it is outrageous for just a “screened trackpad” and ipad is very similar in drawing capabilities, does way more than juste being a graphic tablet, and is cheaper.
its come to the point where apple is just like designer clothes. people just buy it for the apple tag and to look rich. there are so many tablets that are even better and below 1k dolalrs
@@dada.yoshiki Dont forget after 5 years when the battery is degraded you cant use the ipad work outside. Unlike the macbook pro once the battery is dead you can still plugged it and use it as a worksation at home with multiple screens. Not to mention most apps in ipad os are subscription base.
There are artists, especially in the comics industry, that only use iPads pro for their work. And in their case, the iPad is cheaper and better than professional drawing tablets.
@@leonardo3689 Nah Im an professinal artist as well. I can tell for sure there are many professional artist have an ipad pro but they still prefer mac or pc because of photoshop. you can observer your favorite artist such as loish they use ipad but not their primary tool because its limited
$3600 for half of the performance and less capabilities of an already pricey MacBook. I've never seen a video of you that felt like grasping for straws like this one. This really felt like an ad, but i know it isn't. However, i'm happy you found a product you're excited about.
If he thinks this can be a MacBook he should try running an IT business from just a iPad… GLHF with that… Apple just makes up an excuse for stupidity rich to spend money on, and “bought” it - most influential people get it as a freebie or have amounts of cash laying around it doesn’t matter how much it costs. I can afford buying one but for this amount of money I rather buy a MacBook Pro then an iPad in it’s current OS state. It’s in no way comparable to macOS at its current design state and Apple never will do that because otherwise MacBooks would get an touch screen upgrade… they want customers to get both- that’s why iPad OS doesn’t support multi profile users. If you got 4 kids you better get 4 iPad littles and 2 airs or better… but for the birds and bees we won’t add stickers to the new iPads… Apple only cares about more money - not their customers.
He makes some really good points tho, I.e. most online services now have apps as their main portal. I am definitely on the same boat where I prefer all my banking, e-commerce, internet and phone payment gateways etc are all done on an app as opposed to a website portal. Some e-commerce companies give better incentives/discounts on their mobile apps than on their website. I’m just waiting that those apps to run on macOS as well, since all modern Macs are now running on ARM M-series chips. Then we’re back to square one. It’s definitely not a true 1:1 replacement yet but for Arun’s use cases, he seemed to be convinced that it’s possible for him. His use cases and ours aren’t the same. But it’s probably true, the future is definitely app-based and the iPad does that better than any Macs.
It depends on your use case man. If for him it is a MacBook replacement than that means whatever he was doing on the macbook, he can do on the iPad with little to no drawback. It isn't necessary a MacBook replacement for everyone, neither is he implying that.
I feel like he dropped the ball on this one. Sadly absolutely nothing had changed in terms of the software with this new iPad lineup. Metal finish magic keyboard still loses to Macbook because the angle is still limited. Even the M1 iPad can do so much but Is neutered at the software level and has been for a lot of years now, I don't see that changing either.
I have a Samsung tablet and I gotta say, that thing gets so much use. I used to not really care about tablets in more recent years, but I can call, text, watch media and use it for laptop stuff. I do think tablets can be very useful.
I have a gazillion laptops and tablets. I initially got tablets because I thought it was ridiculous that I should be "forced" by companies and governments to do important stuff on the phone's 6 inches (and forced we are, as phones are deemed safer than laptops from viruses etc by many higher powers). There's so little you can comfortably do on the tablet versus a laptop, and, for sanity's sake, if we limit the discussion to Apple devices, there's so little that can detract from the nice package that the M1 Air was, or the 15 inch M3 Air. Got to be said, if you can afford one you can probably afford the other, so over the long run you'll either end up with a wardrobe full of shoes like many females, or boxes full of semi-expired electronics :)
Begging for clicks. Not matter where you go on UA-cam. Everybody begging for clicks. I hate it. He is even very smartly cross referencing to other products trying to push his clicks even more. This guy is nothing but a big billboard for companies, just like most UA-camrs.
@@smallego8068and there's nothing wrong with that. He started young, at a time of a young UA-cam. And he had the advantage of starting a channel of very few at the time. He's grown big. Congrats to him. If you could do the same, as far making money, you probably would too. It's his job. And he's fortunate to have started his channel when he did, because it's very hard for new tech channels to come to an uprise, since there are now to many known super channels.
Because you're smart! You bought the transitioning markets in the tech world with the new M4 chipset. And M4 is the beast so far... this model will transfer into Ai seamlessly and get you into what's coming. The entire computer world is changing as fast as Ai tech can transform. Thats why they jumped over the M3.❤
bro, seems like you were sitting at the same desk the whole day starting from a bright sunny day till probably midnight (as seen through a really beautiful hotel window). Really shows how big of a decision it is for you...
I get this kind of stuff due to being an artist. Sure procreate released procreate pocket, a miniature version of the main app for iPhone users so they don’t have to carry around a tablet to use it. And that’s amazing for sketches and little drawings and gifs but to comfortably make professional art you need a larger surface. And the iPad does that.
"Introducing the iPad Pro M4 we have spent years improving the iPad pro here are the new features! Better charger! Better camera! So much new features you cannot comprehend!
I bet you their charger still only charges one device at a time and is therefore manufactured e-waste. I wish they'd stop doing that and switch to multiport - Samsung too.
Well tbf, shoving the M4 (which at it's base is a VERY good CPU, especially for a tablet), making it fairly efficient, then somehow making it as thin as it is is a feat
Well, if you still not noticed, it's already a M4 inside of it, i mean even their best competitor still wasn't able to copy and release their answer to the M1.. so the work what they did with it, is way more like your think (or what you can understand..)
@@ChemzborgorDepends on your use case, many artist and creators don’t use a PC at all and are able to get by with a tablet just fine, using a PC can actually be a bit of a work flow bottleneck. Windows is not a very good touch interface OS. As far as hardware goes it’s not even close. The iPad’s have vastly better displays, far more responsive and computer, much lighter for the size and better battery. There isn’t really and objectively best product, it all comes down to use case and personal preference.
ecosystem lock in it is.... Apple makes each product, the best to fit in their specific ecosystem once you start, it will just feel better To buy another apple product to get that integration...
I bought a refurbished iPad Pro 12.9 M2. I think if you have a Mac and an iPhone, an iPad is not so useful. But if you don’t have an iPhone, like me, it makes more sense. There are more and more pro app optimised for iPad, like da Vinci, Final Cut, affinity, etc. So you can do some work only on iPad. The usability with a second display is good but not perfect. So it can’t substitute a MacBook, but could be a portable working machine for medium works (I work in film industry). I my workflow I use it as a second display for my camera, viewfinder tool for location scouting, taking notes on set, create fast 3d scan of locations. So very good for pre-production!
This whole video is you convincing yourself to push the buy button - I have this exact same conversation with friends and family before I buy a tech toy I don't need - but "totally need" :P Love your videos
I have an M1 MacBook Pro, with an M1 iPad Pro, and I use both for work and the reason I have both is the ability to use my iPad as a second screen. It has become such a useful feature for me if I am not at home where I have a full desk/twin monitors setup, being able to travel with my MacBook & iPad means I can be just as productive anywhere I am. I could not do this before with my MacBook only because I always need a second screen for the type of work I do. iPad's are not essential in any sense, but they are an amazing tool and definitely the best tablet money can buy.
I know why: Because you are one of the leading tech reviewers on UA-cam, and NOT buying one would mean losing out on millions of views and potential subscriptions this video will generate for you. You have to buy this to be able to long-term test it to create this video, to stay relevant. You can also write off this iPad to boot. Simple.
Sure since he is a tech UA-camr he needs to buy everything Apple puts out.. but you gotta listen to him and understand his points too. The point of replacing his current daily-use tech, the progression of tablet technology and its relevance in today's world etc etc. Those points are something which are key to the video
He really doesn’t need to write it off for #1 he can return it and get his money back after he does some reviews and get the cheaper one if he really wants to keep one after but mostly with the amount of views he creates that video more than probably paid for
@@usamashehab8138 yep, this was my main takeaway, all of this has been possible from the moment iPads started using Mac chips, now it's just a tiny bit faster, and as long as iPad OS doesn't get better, like a normal pc, most of the speed improvement is pointless, unless you do a lot of hardware intensive work, just get an older M1 chip iPad
@@da4127 I was definitely using the standard definition of "irony"! The irony being that this video is promoting a new tablet which is supposedly so amazing that it might replace Arun's MacBook AND his ReMarkable tablet, yet the result of the whole pitch was making me want to buy the ReMarkable tablet instead.
Zack will snap the iPad in half And break Tim’s heart in half Apple, stop making thin gadgets. New MacBooks were actually going in the right direction in this regard.
I'm really with you. I'm so close to making my iPad my primary computer, and I LOVE my MacBook. I produce music as well, but the new Logic Pro for iPad is honestly really good. Just feels a bit shitty to suddenly have to pay a subscription for something I spent more than 200 on on the Mac. The other thing is coding. I'm a programmer and coding on the iPad is just not possible. That's something I can look past with a work laptop though, because I don't really code much privately anymore anyway. Still sticking to my laptop for now, but I've definitely considered it many times.
Yeah, the new iPad slots right into your workflow, mainly because you're into jotting things down with a pen, you're more into mobile games than the big ones, and you enjoy catching Netflix and UA-cam while you're out and about. But when it comes down to serious work and playing PC games on the go, I still reckon the laptop plus phone combo takes the cake.
It's definitely mind-blowing how technology continues to evolve, making everything more compact yet more powerful. As a MacBook user, shifting to an iPad as a main device sounds like a bold move. However, with the potential to do better in terms of gaming, photo editing, and even video editing, it could be worth the risk.
I love your enthusiasm, it reminds me of the early days of the iPad and iPad Pro where lots of folks in the Apple community were excited by the promise and potential of the iPad, but as the years went on and Apple seemed unwilling or unable to help iPadOS become more powerful and fully-featured, gradually lost that excitement and switched back to using Macs. I suspect you're going to go on that same journey yourself.
If they make iPads any better it will start competing with their own lower end MacBooks or maybe even iMacs. I doubt they wanna risk that. The same reason MacBooks don't open 360°, probably.
The premise of the video is wrong: 1) changing only makes sense if the product you are going to buy (the iPad) is cheaper than buying a MacBook, which is not the case 2) If you complain about the weight of the MacBook Pro but you are willing to go to a tablet that has limited software and that is at most half the performance, you could go directly to a MacBook Air that is much lighter and we fall back to the first point: it is much cheaper $3600 allows you: 1) buy a macbook air that is useful for productivity, if you need more power, buy a second-hand Macbook pro M1 2) buy a PS4 + TV or a $700 PC to play 3) Samsung tablet / iPad Air to consume content and if you know how to search, you can keep 1/3 of the remaining money, have 3 products that will do each of the functions much better than that iPad Pro would do, they will be easier to resell in the future and I repeat, cheaper.
@@ascended1924which is why people shouldn't buy iPad pros... it has an M4 in it for nothing more than an inferior Macbook experience. For the pro teir it should have a a full Mac OS, then the cost could be justified..
This isn't even a full review, but you've covered this iPad so well from a variety of viewpoints that really raise questions for users, not tied to one particular review format. The way you look at every aspect of the advantages and disadvantages compared to the iPhone and Macbook is very interesting, and it's all presented so neatly and easily understood. Extraordinary.
I noticed that Samsung Ultra phones have Samsung DEX mode - this is when you connect your phone to a screen and a keyboard with mouse - and you got a desktop experience from a mobile phone! I gave it a try and my conclusion is: it can replace my work laptop used mostly for zoom and teams meetings. The only thing I find annoying is that in DEX mode the phone cannot make use of an external webcamera that I use with Zoom. Otherwise all the other apps - are nearly identical to Windows PC experience: powerpoint, outlook, teams, zoom, etc. It is incredible how close the mobile devices came cto replace laptops.
I have used my my s22 ultra for about year as a laptop. I only had problem at campus, now I am using tab s9+ and s22 ulta together and never wanted to go laptop
in all honesty, neither an ipad nor a phone with desktop mode can replace an actual working computer. sure they all can watch youtube but at the end of the day if you're gonna use productivity apps you're better off with a pc.
You’re the first tech reviewer who has pointed out the advantages of the iPad running iPadOS rather than MacOS whilst still considering it as a viable laptop replacement. I now understand why Apple still keeps making the iPad Pro
I shook my head and laughed when Steve Jobs first said it, and I'm still shaking my head and laughing. I could never consider an iPad as a computer replacement because what makes a computer a computer is the file system. I guess for the people who don't care about a file system, then yes, an iPad can replace a computer. But for me, a file system is essential.
You are now feeling exactly how i felt three years ago when I got the M1 pro and spent $2,300 USD hoping it would be a one stop replacement for all my devices. unfortunately i still have a desktop, laptop, WACOM, and the IPAD is sitting on a shelf doing nothing. Apple needs to unlock the capabilities of the IPAD to run desktop applications. Holding it back so that consumers buy both a MacBook and a IPAD is frustrating.
I’ve bough an iPad pro in 2019 and I haven’t had the need for a laptop since. I can do everything I need on it just easier and faster than on a laptop. I understand is not for everyone but for 90% of population who doesn’t use it with an specific purpose is going to have a better screen, better battery, better speakers, better performance and is going to last longer than an average laptop.
I love this style of video. This is literally what I do in my head every time I want to buy a new tech product, so it's kind of nice to see someone else go through the same motions. Very relatable and gives a lot of good points. As a side note: When I was choosing a laptop a few years ago, I made a pros and cons list. I feel like that helped me get my thoughts together, and I would recommend trying it if you are crippled with indecision like I always am XD
As long as the iPad has a good “writing”/matte screen protector it’s pretty sweet to use the Apple Pencil with. I like to use extra fine nibs as well. Just don’t skimp out on them, if you drop your pen they will break, stay in the 8-12 dollar price range and they tend to last longer.
I had this exact epiphany as well, I brought and sold tablets thinking that it would replace the laptop but it never really did but this year I did go ahead and give it a shot and then it really worked out well and I was actually quite surprised that we had such similar ideas on this. But yeah it's been a great experience it actually recommend using Android as well
10:02 i do not feel the same. I hate when every website keeps pushing you to download the app. Downloading an app is a different contractual agreement than visiting your website. When u download an app, you are part of a product without realizing it.
I have that toothbrush and it's not really that smart. It recognizes when you're applying too much pressure to your teeth but that's it. Everything else is poorly optimized.
As someone who works in app and web dev industry. I for one hate downloading apps for everything. Web is overall just better and will usually not hoard resources of your device as long as you have good hygiene whereas apps can get access to all sorts of weird local hardware level access and I don’t trust that with every rando app out there.
I prefer apps as they feel more ‘solid’ to me. I hate having to pan around, zoom in and out, and even browse to websites. Particularly when shopping in a store. If there is an app I will always use that. I tend to only install apps I trust anyway. I seldom have issues with an app hogging resources (even when I have several open) though my iPad isn’t the latest.
MK did say it best. Its still a Ipad no matter whats under the hood. You boot it up and you have Ipad OS. I have a M2 12.9 and Newest Pencil before the Pro was announced. So Im good for a replacement for a couple generations. Word of advise. if you can afford the Ipad he just bought. Get the macbook pro M3 with all the bells and whistles.
@@richdollars8337 This is true. But just from these 2 products. You’ll get more bang for your buck getting a MBpro. It may be a Mac but it’s still a computer as opposed to a tablet pretending to be. That’s all I meant.
@@richdollars8337 Around half the people in my university cohort use a MacBook, including me. This is also the case for most of the universities in the UK.
Yeah I hate when people say this the same argument can be said about the MacBooks they are useless because you can’t play any of the good games and your spending the same price. What do you really need from the MacBook that can’t be done with a iPad if you’re not an editor or UA-camr.
Haha creator finding one good comment and liking it among the pile of negative yet true comments 😂😂 Ignoring the opinion of poor and peasant , that is true privilege roght there😂😂
For your future smart home you should use home assistant to control everything. Do some research and please make a video showing how it works and what you think of it.
You should do a review of 15 products that are older than 5 years but still are perfectly usable today and call it "OLD BUT GOLD"!
YES PLEASE!
I second this
...along with 15 ai devices called "NEW BUT POO"!
Yes
iPad Pro MX1
Imagine spending a pc worth of money on a tablet just to find a kid watching yt kids on it
imagine😂
You can literally buy a pc with a 4080 super for around the same price as the iPads pro 2tb configuration 😂
exactly thats double the price of my pc
Which is sad and how crap apple is
Kids already play on a pc worth of money tablets and devices though?
Most powerful UA-cam and Netflix machine.
overmade joke
For real 😂
@@brobiv2452That is still funny. Especially the reactions from all the apple sheep.
Not to mention Candy Crush.
copy paste comment no.1069
I have the 11” M2 cellular iPad Pro and it’s definitely a ‘freeing’ sort of device. You can pop it open ANYWHERE (on the bus, in the middle of a field), work on something with cellular, close it, and go. No wifi to worry about, and phone OSes are apps are built to be interrupted. The small size also makes it super easy to use on the go (I personally think 11” is the sweet spot), and my MacBook is now getting a lot less usage.
I wish I had the new one, it would be so useful with that amazing calculator, man I’m doing Geometry over the summer right now, and get algebra 2 my next school year, that new IOS 18 ipad calculator would be so useeful
@@Carlos284O.Odepending on how new your old one is it might be good for a trade in for a newer one.
100% right
@@Carlos284O.Othe new iPad calculator is available for everyone who uses iPad OS 18
Bro have you heard of mobile hotspot
Jerry rig is gonna enjoy himself with the bend test .😅
1 min video 😂
its gonna be able to fit in a short
That's what I thought when you mentioned just how thin it is 😅
The déjà vu of the iPhone 6 Bendgate is coming soon.
Yupppppppp
As a wise man in the mkbhd comment section said:-
"It's just a nerfed MacBook"
I saw that comment:D
All depends on what you want and need in a computer.
- No Macbooks have OLED
- cheaper Macbooks don’t have promotion or good speakers like the iPad Pro
- no pencil and touch input on MacBooks
- it’s the only computer you need for non professional work - and for professional work Windows machines are often better
iPads are fun, Macbooks are boring
@@Isengardtomwho cares i woud rather use my 2013 MacBook pro than this slab of an iPad a computer is different than a tablet for most computer users oh yeah and it has no cooling fan
Kid lacks imagination and/or ability experiences where an iPad makes more sense than a MacBook
- No Macbooks have OLED -- YET, just wait for the ones with OLED
- Macbooks usually have better speakers than iPad
+ The iPad can never take advantage of the full power of the M4 due to iPadOS
+ For the same price you can get a Macbook Air, that will do much more than this iPad, which is why people say its a nerfed Macbook
If you just want to browse netflix or do some light work, you can get a comparable Samsung or Android tablet at or below the same price, which have had OLED screen and Pen Input for a long time already now.
This video is 16 minutes , but Arun's window background started with daylight and ended with darkness. We appreciate the long work you put through the videos.
And he never seems to stop talking, Great editing too!
@@lightningjack27well, he has to take care of retention too.
Also that's some next level camera he is using there great HDR and sharpness without looking overprocessed
@@lightningjack27UA-cam viewers when the reviewer actually gets to the point and reviews the product instead of inserting 5 hours of filler between every two relevant sentences that come out of their mouth :- 😭
5
One big use for iPads: music! The full-size iPad pros with a foot pedal to turn pages are legitimately the best way to store music at this point, basically no matter what. The only issue is that if they freeze during a performance you’re screwed, but they’re still really nice. Plus, paper has the exact same issue, just in different ways (missed or failed page turn, music falls off stand, for some reason your part’s in the wrong order, etc)
Not just sheet music, the new ipad pros can run the mac version of logic so music creation can be done professionally anywhere. It's the perfect way to collab with someone anywhere. (The pro stands for professional use for a reason)
When you realize they changed all the sizes from 12.9 inch to 13 inch or 10.9 to 11inch to "be more clean" when in reality you old magic keyboards are now obsolete and you need to buy some more
😢 exactly
Didn’t you comment this on MKBHD’s video or was that someone else because this is word for word
Sell your old one buy the new one problem solved why do people struggle to do this?
They even made their pencil obsolete.
Apple means business 💲💲
The millionth tech UA-camr saying he will replace his laptop, but never ends up doing it because the lack of a cooling fan in the iPad means it runs much slower than the macbook for prolonged work like video editing.
It's not about the fan, which either MacBook Air has it. More about the software side, these "pro apps" they keep calling is the "kiddie" version of the actual pro apps they have on Windows/Mac
It’s because it can do a lot but it’s still technically more inefficient and time consuming to do things on it since it’s limited by the iPad OS. People really want to be able to replace their computer with it because it’s everything in one but the software just makes it not an amazing experience
The mac doesn't have a cooling fan
WDYM? macbook air m1, m2 and m3 has no cooling fan
After few months he and everyone else will make a video why the new apple iPad pro was not what they expected or titles like 3600$ waste bec not upto mark
It's the same cycle for all of them
I love how, when discussing doing work on a device, literally all youtubers talk about video and photo editing, as if that is what we all work on. 😂
Right?? That's what I was thinking lol
that's because that's the workflow they're most familiar with
@jaydenleckpa8381 iPad 10 be like
Exactly 💯. UA-camrs think the pro use case is photo and video editing mostly.
Agreed. They even run benchmarks on how quickly a bit of kit will export video...a use case for a tiny minority of users
Was great to briefly see you… 😅 but yeah… the points you made at 15 minutes, as someone that’s always been excited about an iPad eventually replacing my Mac, I don’t think this iPad Pro will simply because there’s no ‘pro’ currently in iPadOS unfortunately. Dunno solid hardware but it’s still just an iPad.
I am one of 99% of watchers who will never buy ipad but will watch every single one of your review
Mee tooo
Same lol I'm a Samsung user
Me too
Same
I’m ok with my iPad Pro 12.9 m2 256 gb and my Apple Pencil. What I have is such an over kill , if you are just a student who just writes notes and play games. 😅😅
7:36
I don't think Apple will allow the iPad to have 100% software functionality and support of the Mac, regardless of how powerful the M4 chip in the iPad is. This is because they will likely want you to buy both the iPad and the Mac, and offering full compatibility might cannibalize Mac sales.
There is already iMac which is basically a big iPad with a keyboard.
If there's a "guess" of greedy option, then Apple will do it 100%
@@proudbacteria1373 Its weaker and not portable, totally different market
Much like why Macbooks are not getting touchscreens.
It’s a shame because that didn’t used to be Apples mentality. When they launched the iPhone, they knew it would cannibalize the iPods but did it because they knew it was innovation and would suit them better in the long run.
Why can’t Apple make a Mac/iPad combo? Basically make the Mac Screen an iPad, then have the keyboard attach at the bottom with all the extra chips for added power? When you attach the tablet part, it becomes “MacMode” then when you detach, it goes to “iPad Mode”
Honestly that would be an incredible device if they could pull it off and Apple should be able too with all their in house chips.
You're getting the tablet because a) you can afford it, and b) you're a top tech reviewer and can't be left out.
And c) the revenue from this video is what will pay for the Ipad.
Top not h reviewer would not buy this lmfao they would already know it's made by apple so it's over priced 😂😂😂
@@alvinamana1459 typical apple hater...I'm sure you haven't actually used an iPad for it's intended purpose. I still have an M1 iPad Pro, and abolutely love it. And I'm saying this as a PC user with RTX 3070 Ti powered system as well. Just becasue you don't see the purpose doesn't mean it has no merit. I would say that iPad is stagnating and Apple really needs to get the software to compete with Windows, Mac, and Linux in terms of power user tools. But some things work far better on the iPad than any of my desktops
Theres no way the ipad would replace a laptop, same reason why no tablet ever will - if I am apple and I can sell you 2 different devices, I am not going to make one of them obsolete and hurt my own bottom line
@@grantschilb8019 Calm down, fanboy.
I have an 11” iPad Pro 2022 and I use it for just about everything, I use it far more than my Samsung Tab S9 Ultra. They are both basically laptop replacement tablets, the versatility of both devices is incredible!
why do u use it more than the tab s9 ultra?
The biggest downside of the iPad has been the lack of software. We are getting closer. But as a 3D artist, it's not there. If Zbrush is any good on the iPad later this year that would be a game changer. I mean I would still need marvelous and substance but hopefully Zbrush being on iPad encourages everyone else to hop on.
and development
There are a lot of touchscreen laptops or pc tabs. iPad is only thin because it's not supposed to handle those softwares. They wouldn't put pc operating system on it for a reason, it's because the thermals will never work with that form factor, that's why with same specs there is or will be a laptop too to do those things.
@@shizuxowrong 😂 the software is nothing. Apple is withholding. I have an $500 air 5 with M1 chip and there’s nothing available that makes it skip a beat. I honestly don’t know what ole buddy is planning to do with his much more expensive one. The air 5 is also very thin and light
I, too, was very excited to get my M2 12.9" iPad Pro. A year and a half later, I still use my laptop for everything, and use the $1200 ipad for watching netflix on the sofa. It's such a great device, but useless for me when I can just use my computer, or a phone.
the problem I have is laptop screens arent as good as this ipad is suppose to be they dont make laptops with good displays or they cost more than 2000
Soooo true exactly same here, I’m designer bough iPad on release of m1 though would be a great addition to my work making things on computer then going to iPad to draw somethings over it but men, it always turns into disaster saving files and working then it just doesn’t work, so many times I try it and always lost so much time for nothing now it’s just a website responsive tester for me, and sometimes watch some UA-cam, everything else on my Mac and iPhone thousand times faster, iPad is just a fifth wheel in the work process
I spend 1500 euros on that still feel ashamed about it, I only can imagine using it if they base iPad os on Mac OS it’s the only way, so we have a real desktop space and can have many windows one over another and can adjust them like we want and save files everywhere like on a mac then yess it will be very great decide if not it’s just a gimmick.
You cannot be a power user and do that. I swapped to an IPad Pro when my laptop died and it’s working, but I’m mostly writing with the occasional spreadsheet. For my uses, it’s overpowered. Even then, the laptop it replaced a $500 craptop from Best Buy, and I spent $1200 replacing it with this thing and the Magic Keyboard, so still not good bang for the buck considering I could get a MacBook Air for less.
@@epbrown01Can you gift me a cheapest ipad air? I have a dream to illustrate there through procreate. 🥹
"This is the first time since like 2013 that it really felt to me like tablets are not just big phones" said while swiping up on the home bar on a 11 inch tablet to show an iPhone home screen
Try Samsung s5e with oled screen that you can buy for £150. Don't fall for the hype and take mortgage to give Tim 300% profit margin for screens sourced from actual manufacturers like Samsung and LG. Apple doesn't own a single factory. They are just a middle man, marketing brand who pray on people's desire to own expensive things to brag about.
You're empty inside, huh.
@@1wasbornlikethis He's right though. If these things ran MacOS, then people would get excited.
LOL he even says while pointing out at macbook "if i even need this"
Yes arun, you need it, trying doing actual work on ipad
@@RobloxianX MacOS then yeah, it would be perfect.
What I meant is Arun literally explained that it is in between both Mac and iPhone.
"Not just a big phone" yk
Bought one last week for university and editing photos. It's thin, it's light, has a great screen and allows me to take handwritten notes without having to carry around pen and paper. I suck at typing on laptop keyboards so this really is the best thing for my needs. And it's more versatile. I have my desktop PC for anything I can't or don't want to do on the iPad.
And since it has a touchscreen I can use it literally anywhere, regardless of what I'm doing.
Though I have to admit, it was expensive as hell.
Bros funding the iPad purchase with this video😂👏
Hes already made $4500 from the video 😂
@@therelaxingwonders stonks
He makes at least 200K -300K PER VIDEO
@@therelaxingwondershe def has made more then that
Title: Why I spent $3600 on ipad Pro m4.
Me: Because you need to make a review video
did he really order it?
And because he'll make more then that off the video. The title is disingenuous.
I think it’s more like I’m rich and can make videos of this xD. Not just one review
Recently I've stopped watching MRWTB videos... They are flashy, really well made etc... But core reason why I've watched his videos were cause of my decisions should I buy this or that product... Now it's... I run benchmark on mobile. It overheats, it's really bad phone.. (Meanwhile Serbian UA-cam Channel called Benchmark did do pretty professional review of the same phone where they did mention overheat on 3d Mark benchmark I think, they still showed how phone doesn't have any problems with any games, overheating or daily use outside that same benchmark. highly recommended it while MRWTB was sceptical of it by not doing properly something that almost nobody uses and doesn't have any use...)
So yeap... Flashing products, money and doing for videos for views and money isn't that cool to look at anymore.
@@ddrfreak4578maybe for you but to the other millions of people that watch his vids it seems they find them entertaining 😂 your just hating on him to try to advertise the other guys yt channel and mrwtb vids are filled with a lot of useful info
When something feels like its at a tipping point it usually means its a generation or two away from the actual tipping point.
Deffo
My thoughts exactly. It's exciting, but I doubt we're there quiteeee yet
Yep. Unless there are some iPad OS fundamental changes his childlike enthusiasm is going to peter off in a few months of purchase and he’ll be making a video entitled “why I went back to my MacBook and dumped my iPad.”
I predict it will be a middle ground and he’ll end up using his iPad mostly as a second screen for his MacBook.
Not with Apple. They want to sell all three expensive devices: iPhone, iPad and Macbook.
@@graxxorAll youtubers make those steps.
They gotta make the content in order to get the money from ads. 😂
I’ve just bought the m4 iPad Pro (I go for newer devices so I get the security updates for longer) and I’m loving it so far 😊
Sadly A very powerful machine the average consumer will never really take advantage of but still pay premium for.
This is for professional use and I see parents buying this for their 3 year olds, $1000 phones for their kids who aren’t even teens
Games will
My girl purchased the 2nd gen pro years ago and paid a lot for it including years of insurance she never used and the only thing she ever does it watch youtube check her email. She could have gotten something a quarter of the price that does the same thing Plus this was all on credit so took a couple years to pay off while I was doing the same thing and more on a much cheaper tablet.
@@DembegBoodeswhat professional use this m4 iPad is for thst can't be done on the m1 or even previous generation from it?
@@MrDragonorpOh absolutely nothing except a couple small quality of life improvements
This feels like the most pro Apple video you’ve ever made
Fr this feels sponsored
Yes, especially because every feature mentioned I already know about because my Samsung tablet (Galaxy Tab S9 +) can already do. And it's just as thin.
@@VeederRootI don’t think apple has ever sponsored anyone ever. I think he just doesn’t know that as powerful as the iPad is there are no applications that take advantage of its speed. He’ll probably figure that out soon.
@@averydee5328yeah,and the Biden administration has never pressured socal media companies 😂. He knows what he has to do
@@averydee5328 apple sends free tech to everybody all the timeso they use it in their vids for exposure, this also leads to people saying good things abt the products becasue they didnt have to pay for them
I like the fact that in the start of the video it's daytime and in the end it's nighttime 😂
@DontReadMyPicture93 piss of bot
@DontReadMyPicture93 How do we expect not to read your name if we already read it?
@@anime012-4he's a bot
@@thegreatone426 .
Yes true, you have nailed the points... Portability, Apps over websites, music, photos, steaming, ebooks, pen, games, maps, detachable keyboard, touch, its modern, and laptop feels boring. Also its easy to connect and interact with smart home / devices ..
Arun definitely has not known about the Magic Keyboard for decades last like 4 years. He was so impressed by the new one yet talking mostly about things that are not new 😂
😂😂😂😂
Perhaps the fact that they've eliminated better options cuz apple keyboard was always the worst yet the most expensive
Once you notice it, he does this a lot. I don't know if it's in case the person watching doesn't know about the products or to stretch the runtime. But he does it a lot.
@@lirfrank i just think he didn’t know about it at all since he’s saying that he never stepped foot in the tabler world let alone iPads
The title should have been "I spent 3600$ on the iPad Pro M4 so you don't have to"
Because I have 18m subscribers, because I can , so I create content on it and not feel a dent in my bank account. That’s why. No hate though good for him 😂
@JamieAyling subscribers mean nothing. views matter more.
'Hi, hipeotech here. I wasted 4k on a ipad pro silver balls, no chicklet keyboard edition. Why? so you don't have to'
Well it isnt for the average consumer
ouht
Even is today's world where the majority of web traffic is on mobile/tablet devices... the web just still doesn't feel at all designed for it, to me. The amount of times I'll abandon a checkout on my phone to pick back up on my computer because I was frustrated and having issues is astronomical.
That's what the tablet does best, better than phone and portable and almost as good as computer experience if not as good or better. I don't enjoy searching for flights km phones but do on tablet and laptop
It’s because websites are built using laptops, not phones. Mobile will always be an afterthought that isn’t tested as often.
Never really have an issue with websites on a mobile device, I almost never have to use my laptop…
good for Aaron that Apple made a device with a price/specs which can only be justified by his needs
@@jamesalexduranyeah what is OP buying? 99% of my checkouts don’t have any issues
This is why people are gravitating to going iPad only. So many ppl object by saying “why not just get a MacBook”. They don’t understand the appeal of having one device that does it all. A tablet when you want it, a laptop when you need it. I’m glad you’re starting to see the light!
you need a phone and a pc. tablet can't replace neither one of those completely, so it's just a niche.
If anything, Surface Book is much more useful, being actual laptop with powerful graphics while still having option to disconnect screen and use as tablet.
iPadOS is not suitable for computer use, so the iPad is no more than a niche device
It's like a software bottleneck in a sense
That’s what the surface pro is actually successful at
I have all three. The iPhone’s screen is too small for yt videos. The laptop is too big and cumbersome to move around, so my iPad comes in handy.
I’m an iPad fan but we need more software options. Until then, how could it replace a laptop
This iPad is my wedding budget 😊
Yep
WHAHAHA
Then maybe you should opt for the Ipad...
@@unicornharry7995 you must be have a spending problem.
iPads don’t argue back.
Marques nonchalantly doing his own review across the table 😊
That's not him...
@@twalkz30Yeah..... Isnt that also kinda ra**st?
@@Nothing-rd9zh We all thought it was him until the last clip lets be honest
I almost thought it is him, i wont be surprised if Apple invited both of them together to an event.
@@Nothing-rd9zhwhy are you censoring the word racist
He almost convinced me to buy new iPad until I checked my bank account
Same lol
🤣😂🤣😂🤣👍🏽👌🏾
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Same😢
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Watching this on my m4 iPad Pro hits different , always love the quality of your videos 🔥
Me: Bruh, 256GB is so much
Arun: "Imma 8TB kinda guy"
4k/8k recording takes crazy space and that too unedited once so it should be obvious
256gb isnt enough to download all the music I listen to 👎
Do you even realize how much cache gets built up while editing a video?
Bro needs a NAS
@@blasiankxng🧢
It’s way more than enough to download all the audiobooks I ever listened to, no way it wouldn’t be enough for all the music you listen to
"Taking the Pencil experience to a whole new level" is classic Apple.
Just added 2 boring gestures u already get in Samsung but for free
@@Noname12........641 bro went straight
to the point!
Despite the iPad pro getting the M4 chip & OLED screen, removing the ultra wide camera and bumping the price up by $200-300 still feels like a little too much. And considering you would have to buy more Apple hardware and software to fully utilize the product, I dont feel like this should be recommended to the average consumer under any circumstances anymore...
Almost nobody actually needs the M4 iPad pro. It's ridiculously overpowered but can't run a proper OS. Very weird product
@@whitemilkcocoYou’re forgetting about the actual differences between iOS and android, where a Samsung needs 16gb of ram an Apple product can match it with 4gb of ram due to its system being precisely optimized for it. Android on the other hand is open source and is not optimized for any phone in particular. Also with the hardware part: Did you watch the complete video? Samsung still uses PHONE chips which are much worse than a m4 chip. Therefore your comment doesn’t make much sense. (I don’t mean this in an offensive way, I’m just correcting you)
and uses less material so it's cheaper for Apple to produce
@@slayyer2nd170 It's much more closer to 12gb of ram on Android and 8gb on iphone
@@slayyer2nd170 dude saying Apple 4GB = Samsung 16GB is the most Apple Fanboy copium thing I've ever heard.
Apple *is* better at RAM management and optimization, but realistically it's more like Apple 8GB = Samsung 12GB.
My 2017 iPad Pro with 4GB of RAM definitely can *NOT* keep up with my Samsung N20U with 12GB of RAM.
I honestly prefer going to a website on my mobile devices compared to an app because storage management is something I really struggle with and websites barely take up any storage compared to the app.
Dude the fact you can buy a good laptop for the price of this iPad is insane
Close to a vision pro to!
Not just a laptop, 3k can get you such a good desktop.
@@Capense-q9m close to all the best parts available as a build
@@Capense-q9m yeah go carry your desktop and draw on your laptop
The keyboard alone is $500, I would rather spend this on a gaming pc or a steam deck
Believe me, no tablet deserve this price tag. All the things he mentioned are justification that every tech company provide at the launch, which to be honest never provide value for money.
I see the appeal, I’m in art school in graphic design and I have a friend who categorically refuses to use a mac, he’s fine with ipads tho. He specialises in illustration and for him an ipad was game changing, he drew like 3 times more and better. The crazy expensive ipad from the video is the crazy maxed out one, nobody needs that i agree, but a 1500-2000€ ipad is completely acceptable. Why ? just look at the premium graphic tablets prices, it is outrageous for just a “screened trackpad” and ipad is very similar in drawing capabilities, does way more than juste being a graphic tablet, and is cheaper.
its come to the point where apple is just like designer clothes. people just buy it for the apple tag and to look rich. there are so many tablets that are even better and below 1k dolalrs
@@dada.yoshiki Dont forget after 5 years when the battery is degraded you cant use the ipad work outside. Unlike the macbook pro once the battery is dead you can still plugged it and use it as a worksation at home with multiple screens. Not to mention most apps in ipad os are subscription base.
There are artists, especially in the comics industry, that only use iPads pro for their work. And in their case, the iPad is cheaper and better than professional drawing tablets.
@@leonardo3689 Nah Im an professinal artist as well. I can tell for sure there are many professional artist have an ipad pro but they still prefer mac or pc because of photoshop. you can observer your favorite artist such as loish they use ipad but not their primary tool because its limited
$3600 for half of the performance and less capabilities of an already pricey MacBook. I've never seen a video of you that felt like grasping for straws like this one. This really felt like an ad, but i know it isn't. However, i'm happy you found a product you're excited about.
Pricer than Vision Pro
I didn't see it that way, I saw it as he finally found a tablet that actually fits in his life.
How is it half the performance?
What about Microsoft surface?
of a macbook pro* it exceeds the capabilities of the most recent macbook air.
I picked up the Xiaomi Pad 6 and it's peripherals for the same reasons you're picking up the ipad.
Its improved my productivity and entertainment.
arun has gone off the rails saying the iPad in its current form could be a Macbook replacement. it’s literally a nerfed Macbook
If he thinks this can be a MacBook he should try running an IT business from just a iPad… GLHF with that… Apple just makes up an excuse for stupidity rich to spend money on, and “bought” it - most influential people get it as a freebie or have amounts of cash laying around it doesn’t matter how much it costs. I can afford buying one but for this amount of money I rather buy a MacBook Pro then an iPad in it’s current OS state. It’s in no way comparable to macOS at its current design state and Apple never will do that because otherwise MacBooks would get an touch screen upgrade… they want customers to get both- that’s why iPad OS doesn’t support multi profile users. If you got 4 kids you better get 4 iPad littles and 2 airs or better… but for the birds and bees we won’t add stickers to the new iPads… Apple only cares about more money - not their customers.
He makes some really good points tho, I.e. most online services now have apps as their main portal. I am definitely on the same boat where I prefer all my banking, e-commerce, internet and phone payment gateways etc are all done on an app as opposed to a website portal. Some e-commerce companies give better incentives/discounts on their mobile apps than on their website. I’m just waiting that those apps to run on macOS as well, since all modern Macs are now running on ARM M-series chips. Then we’re back to square one.
It’s definitely not a true 1:1 replacement yet but for Arun’s use cases, he seemed to be convinced that it’s possible for him. His use cases and ours aren’t the same. But it’s probably true, the future is definitely app-based and the iPad does that better than any Macs.
Guy is just lying to his audience
It depends on your use case man.
If for him it is a MacBook replacement than that means whatever he was doing on the macbook, he can do on the iPad with little to no drawback. It isn't necessary a MacBook replacement for everyone, neither is he implying that.
I feel like he dropped the ball on this one. Sadly absolutely nothing had changed in terms of the software with this new iPad lineup. Metal finish magic keyboard still loses to Macbook because the angle is still limited. Even the M1 iPad can do so much but Is neutered at the software level and has been for a lot of years now, I don't see that changing either.
I have a Samsung tablet and I gotta say, that thing gets so much use. I used to not really care about tablets in more recent years, but I can call, text, watch media and use it for laptop stuff. I do think tablets can be very useful.
but should they cost so much?
Would you pay $3000 for one?
I have a gazillion laptops and tablets. I initially got tablets because I thought it was ridiculous that I should be "forced" by companies and governments to do important stuff on the phone's 6 inches (and forced we are, as phones are deemed safer than laptops from viruses etc by many higher powers). There's so little you can comfortably do on the tablet versus a laptop, and, for sanity's sake, if we limit the discussion to Apple devices, there's so little that can detract from the nice package that the M1 Air was, or the 15 inch M3 Air. Got to be said, if you can afford one you can probably afford the other, so over the long run you'll either end up with a wardrobe full of shoes like many females, or boxes full of semi-expired electronics :)
@@DavidFrankland No, that's why he has a Samsung, which already comes with the pen included
The real reason he spent $3600 on the ipad is because he wanted to make this video
100% lol
He’s already made over 10k from ads from this video
Facts
Begging for clicks. Not matter where you go on UA-cam. Everybody begging for clicks. I hate it.
He is even very smartly cross referencing to other products trying to push his clicks even more.
This guy is nothing but a big billboard for companies, just like most UA-camrs.
@@smallego8068and there's nothing wrong with that. He started young, at a time of a young UA-cam. And he had the advantage of starting a channel of very few at the time. He's grown big. Congrats to him. If you could do the same, as far making money, you probably would too. It's his job. And he's fortunate to have started his channel when he did, because it's very hard for new tech channels to come to an uprise, since there are now to many known super channels.
Because you're smart! You bought the transitioning markets in the tech world with the new M4 chipset. And M4 is the beast so far... this model will transfer into Ai seamlessly and get you into what's coming. The entire computer world is changing as fast as Ai tech can transform. Thats why they jumped over the M3.❤
Love how the sun goes down outside. I know a few tech UA-camrs who would have waited until it’s dark before recording to have a consistent background.
Title: Why I spent $3600 on ipad Pro m4.
Me: Because you can afford it
@@vga19he needs content man
@@vga19feel more like a sponsored video.
@@Roadside121by who? why would apple want you to get an iPad over a MacBook?
@@SoosRamirez1because they want them to buy both.
cos the money generated from this clickbaity horseshit is greater than the cost to purchase the overpriced tablet
My guy just re-i vented advertising
Apple owes you a big bag
He probably received a check
Yep
Samsung tablet is almost as thin and has had a pen forever 😂. They're acting like this is new. Plus Samsung has Oled display
Seriously, I thought 4 minutes in, "does this guy even get the Ipad in this video?"
Skipped ahead and saw nope. Turned it off.
@@limbeboy7hahaha true bias much. And about the magnetic keyboard huawei already had it
that toothbrush scene was fascinating 😂
Non apple user watching 😂
Same
Same
Same
Android users always have to brag about their devices to make themselves feel better for buying shit, you won't see any Apple user complaining
I will never by Apple products even if i get a massive discount 😂
bro, seems like you were sitting at the same desk the whole day starting from a bright sunny day till probably midnight (as seen through a really beautiful hotel window). Really shows how big of a decision it is for you...
lmao
0:42 editor did Arun dirty ☠️☠️😵💫
🤣
👀☠️😲💀
NAH
I get this kind of stuff due to being an artist. Sure procreate released procreate pocket, a miniature version of the main app for iPhone users so they don’t have to carry around a tablet to use it. And that’s amazing for sketches and little drawings and gifs but to comfortably make professional art you need a larger surface. And the iPad does that.
As an architect, this iPad has been very useful. Having a full 3D model of an office park in your hand is amazing during construction.
You got this already??
Don't confuse iPad and Vision Pro.
the M1 iPad does everything you would need as an architect, even an iPad air would do great
@@jokered1133 He obviously misspoke. The M4 iPad Pro has not been released yet. It goes on sale May 15.
"Introducing the iPad Pro M4 we have spent years improving the iPad pro here are the new features!
Better charger!
Better camera!
So much new features you cannot comprehend!
I bet you their charger still only charges one device at a time and is therefore manufactured e-waste. I wish they'd stop doing that and switch to multiport - Samsung too.
Well tbf, shoving the M4 (which at it's base is a VERY good CPU, especially for a tablet), making it fairly efficient, then somehow making it as thin as it is is a feat
Better Camera??? Where?
Well, if you still not noticed, it's already a M4 inside of it, i mean even their best competitor still wasn't able to copy and release their answer to the M1.. so the work what they did with it, is way more like your think (or what you can understand..)
"better camera" lol this time the camera got worse
Now we need a comparison of Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra and iPad Pro M4
iPad Pro win
Surface pro more usable bc it's an actual PC just no keyboard
@@ChemzborgorDepends on your use case, many artist and creators don’t use a PC at all and are able to get by with a tablet just fine, using a PC can actually be a bit of a work flow bottleneck. Windows is not a very good touch interface OS. As far as hardware goes it’s not even close. The iPad’s have vastly better displays, far more responsive and computer, much lighter for the size and better battery. There isn’t really and objectively best product, it all comes down to use case and personal preference.
iPad pro m1 beat tab s9 ultra in performance 😂
@@rd3munna812accept in every other way 😂 apple
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I am very much Happy with my Ipad pro 2021 M1. I see myself using it 7 more years without any problems. Thank you very much.
I love the fact that at the start of the video the sun is setting and in the end it is like midnight
Arun is slowly but surely becoming a full on apple guy. From the iPhone to never being a watch guy to now using an Apple watch to now an iPad lol.
I love how when ppl say this when they see someone using an Apple product for a brief time while 99% of the content is just the opposite.
He uses the S24U more tho but I get what you mean
ecosystem lock in it is.... Apple makes each product, the best to fit in their specific ecosystem
once you start, it will just feel better To buy another apple product to get that integration...
That’s how Apple converted me. One product at a time.😅
Because they make good products
Very convincing video. Already working on getting one. Im just 3600$ short rn
The video would make sense if it cost $500.
@@ronald3836 You CAN buy an iPad for $500 or even less.
Lowkey
I bought a refurbished iPad Pro 12.9 M2. I think if you have a Mac and an iPhone, an iPad is not so useful. But if you don’t have an iPhone, like me, it makes more sense. There are more and more pro app optimised for iPad, like da Vinci, Final Cut, affinity, etc. So you can do some work only on iPad. The usability with a second display is good but not perfect. So it can’t substitute a MacBook, but could be a portable working machine for medium works (I work in film industry). I my workflow I use it as a second display for my camera, viewfinder tool for location scouting, taking notes on set, create fast 3d scan of locations. So very good for pre-production!
This whole video is you convincing yourself to push the buy button - I have this exact same conversation with friends and family before I buy a tech toy I don't need - but "totally need" :P Love your videos
I have an M1 MacBook Pro, with an M1 iPad Pro, and I use both for work and the reason I have both is the ability to use my iPad as a second screen. It has become such a useful feature for me if I am not at home where I have a full desk/twin monitors setup, being able to travel with my MacBook & iPad means I can be just as productive anywhere I am. I could not do this before with my MacBook only because I always need a second screen for the type of work I do. iPad's are not essential in any sense, but they are an amazing tool and definitely the best tablet money can buy.
Same. I love having that second screen on the go.
Can you gift a cheapest ipad air? I have a dream to illustrate there through procreate 🥹
I know why: Because you are one of the leading tech reviewers on UA-cam, and NOT buying one would mean losing out on millions of views and potential subscriptions this video will generate for you.
You have to buy this to be able to long-term test it to create this video, to stay relevant.
You can also write off this iPad to boot. Simple.
I don't understand this sentence: "You can also write off this iPad to boot."
what do you mean by this?
Tax write off since it’s used for work
Mane mane mane
Sure since he is a tech UA-camr he needs to buy everything Apple puts out.. but you gotta listen to him and understand his points too. The point of replacing his current daily-use tech, the progression of tablet technology and its relevance in today's world etc etc. Those points are something which are key to the video
He really doesn’t need to write it off for #1 he can return it and get his money back after he does some reviews and get the cheaper one if he really wants to keep one after but mostly with the amount of views he creates that video more than probably paid for
I ordered my remarkable paper pro a week ago and I can’t wait for it to arrive. Long live e-ink!
the irony of this amazing, exciting review is that my main takeaway is how much I want one of those remarkable tablets
Same here
all the specs are useless as u can use the capabilities of the ipad to the fullest get an ipad with an M1 chip and u wont notice the diffrence
@@usamashehab8138 yep, this was my main takeaway, all of this has been possible from the moment iPads started using Mac chips, now it's just a tiny bit faster, and as long as iPad OS doesn't get better, like a normal pc, most of the speed improvement is pointless, unless you do a lot of hardware intensive work, just get an older M1 chip iPad
I don't get where the "irony" is, is my brain not working properly or are people just saying "irony" with a new meaning now?
@@da4127 I was definitely using the standard definition of "irony"! The irony being that this video is promoting a new tablet which is supposedly so amazing that it might replace Arun's MacBook AND his ReMarkable tablet, yet the result of the whole pitch was making me want to buy the ReMarkable tablet instead.
2 months later: I was wrong - iPad cannot replace my MacBook
And cracked screen will cost arm and leg
@@dragm2123Screen will be fine I bet, but in the Apple event you can already see people holding new iPads, and they are bent.
once jerry rig gets a hold of it the ipad will call sos
This is the video I am most waiting for 😂
Zack will snap the iPad in half
And break Tim’s heart in half
Apple, stop making thin gadgets. New MacBooks were actually going in the right direction in this regard.
@@drill_fiend1097make it fat and put MIDI ports on it!
I'm really with you. I'm so close to making my iPad my primary computer, and I LOVE my MacBook. I produce music as well, but the new Logic Pro for iPad is honestly really good. Just feels a bit shitty to suddenly have to pay a subscription for something I spent more than 200 on on the Mac. The other thing is coding. I'm a programmer and coding on the iPad is just not possible. That's something I can look past with a work laptop though, because I don't really code much privately anymore anyway. Still sticking to my laptop for now, but I've definitely considered it many times.
Yeah, the new iPad slots right into your workflow, mainly because you're into jotting things down with a pen, you're more into mobile games than the big ones, and you enjoy catching Netflix and UA-cam while you're out and about. But when it comes down to serious work and playing PC games on the go, I still reckon the laptop plus phone combo takes the cake.
I still own a 2016 iPad, and just pulled the trigger on the 11in. These tablets last long, and will stay with you a long time.
i still have a 2013 ipad
I'm just over here watching the progression from day to night.
Lol 😂
With 19.2 million subscribers, you can buy whatever you want. You did it right my friend. Yes, I'm very envious of your success.
It's definitely mind-blowing how technology continues to evolve, making everything more compact yet more powerful. As a MacBook user, shifting to an iPad as a main device sounds like a bold move. However, with the potential to do better in terms of gaming, photo editing, and even video editing, it could be worth the risk.
video editing won't be good lol imagine 50% slower render 💀
@@KenScepterNah, is not render Speed, Literally there is no other editing video program on iPad than LumaFusion, and FCP 💀💀
I still like a big screen. It’s just nice.
lesser powerful, dolt
Everyone knows an iPad won't be better at ANY of them
I love your enthusiasm, it reminds me of the early days of the iPad and iPad Pro where lots of folks in the Apple community were excited by the promise and potential of the iPad, but as the years went on and Apple seemed unwilling or unable to help iPadOS become more powerful and fully-featured, gradually lost that excitement and switched back to using Macs. I suspect you're going to go on that same journey yourself.
If they make iPads any better it will start competing with their own lower end MacBooks or maybe even iMacs. I doubt they wanna risk that. The same reason MacBooks don't open 360°, probably.
The premise of the video is wrong:
1) changing only makes sense if the product you are going to buy (the iPad) is cheaper than buying a MacBook, which is not the case
2) If you complain about the weight of the MacBook Pro but you are willing to go to a tablet that has limited software and that is at most half the performance, you could go directly to a MacBook Air that is much lighter and we fall back to the first point: it is much cheaper
$3600 allows you:
1) buy a macbook air that is useful for productivity, if you need more power, buy a second-hand Macbook pro M1
2) buy a PS4 + TV or a $700 PC to play
3) Samsung tablet / iPad Air to consume content
and if you know how to search, you can keep 1/3 of the remaining money, have 3 products that will do each of the functions much better than that iPad Pro would do, they will be easier to resell in the future and I repeat, cheaper.
@@ascended1924which is why people shouldn't buy iPad pros... it has an M4 in it for nothing more than an inferior Macbook experience. For the pro teir it should have a a full Mac OS, then the cost could be justified..
it's for the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ you wouldn't watch a review if it was boring to watch, so he has to act
I really like this style of videos from you! It's good background listening material while doing other things, like a short podcast :)
Looks like the iPad is going to compete the laptop market too
For the multiuser specific experience (use it as a laptop or as an iPad device)
This isn't even a full review, but you've covered this iPad so well from a variety of viewpoints that really raise questions for users, not tied to one particular review format. The way you look at every aspect of the advantages and disadvantages compared to the iPhone and Macbook is very interesting, and it's all presented so neatly and easily understood. Extraordinary.
I noticed that Samsung Ultra phones have Samsung DEX mode - this is when you connect your phone to a screen and a keyboard with mouse - and you got a desktop experience from a mobile phone!
I gave it a try and my conclusion is: it can replace my work laptop used mostly for zoom and teams meetings. The only thing I find annoying is that in DEX mode the phone cannot make use of an external webcamera that I use with Zoom.
Otherwise all the other apps - are nearly identical to Windows PC experience: powerpoint, outlook, teams, zoom, etc.
It is incredible how close the mobile devices came cto replace laptops.
I have used my my s22 ultra for about year as a laptop. I only had problem at campus, now I am using tab s9+ and s22 ulta together and never wanted to go laptop
in all honesty, neither an ipad nor a phone with desktop mode can replace an actual working computer. sure they all can watch youtube but at the end of the day if you're gonna use productivity apps you're better off with a pc.
@@adorableredfox if you define productivity apps as office 365, teams and zoom - yes, DEX mode can do that just fine.
@@adorableredfox you are right bro. Laptop has no use for me. So tablet is just fine
Laptops stayed relevant because if OS
You’re the first tech reviewer who has pointed out the advantages of the iPad running iPadOS rather than MacOS whilst still considering it as a viable laptop replacement. I now understand why Apple still keeps making the iPad Pro
I shook my head and laughed when Steve Jobs first said it, and I'm still shaking my head and laughing. I could never consider an iPad as a computer replacement because what makes a computer a computer is the file system. I guess for the people who don't care about a file system, then yes, an iPad can replace a computer. But for me, a file system is essential.
@@mikemccormick6128Also if you’re a coder, tablets serve no purpose.
Android phones have file system apps😅@@mikemccormick6128
@@mikemccormick6128 iPad has a file system. Has had one for a while now.
@@EyePodXcan be usable when combined with a cloud dev environment like code-server
You are now feeling exactly how i felt three years ago when I got the M1 pro and spent $2,300 USD hoping it would be a one stop replacement for all my devices. unfortunately i still have a desktop, laptop, WACOM, and the IPAD is sitting on a shelf doing nothing. Apple needs to unlock the capabilities of the IPAD to run desktop applications. Holding it back so that consumers buy both a MacBook and a IPAD is frustrating.
I’ve bough an iPad pro in 2019 and I haven’t had the need for a laptop since. I can do everything I need on it just easier and faster than on a laptop. I understand is not for everyone but for 90% of population who doesn’t use it with an specific purpose is going to have a better screen, better battery, better speakers, better performance and is going to last longer than an average laptop.
I love this style of video. This is literally what I do in my head every time I want to buy a new tech product, so it's kind of nice to see someone else go through the same motions. Very relatable and gives a lot of good points.
As a side note: When I was choosing a laptop a few years ago, I made a pros and cons list. I feel like that helped me get my thoughts together, and I would recommend trying it if you are crippled with indecision like I always am XD
I love how it got progressively darker as the video went on
It's almost as if the sun was going down.
@@GeeEee75 Thanks captain obvious lol
@@elliottrogozinski You too!
As long as the iPad has a good “writing”/matte screen protector it’s pretty sweet to use the Apple Pencil with.
I like to use extra fine nibs as well. Just don’t skimp out on them, if you drop your pen they will break, stay in the 8-12 dollar price range and they tend to last longer.
Jerry is getting ready to zig-zag that screen and back.
Most POWERFUL UA-cam and Netflix machine🔥
Can surf the web exactly like any other iPad 😂
@@volvo09 Yes😂
Nobody is gonna spend 3000 dollars on an ipad, at this point I'll just buy an s9+
@@vaultyn 😂
@@Canmallu The new apple pencil does exactly what my free additional s pen can do 😂
I had this exact epiphany as well, I brought and sold tablets thinking that it would replace the laptop but it never really did but this year I did go ahead and give it a shot and then it really worked out well and I was actually quite surprised that we had such similar ideas on this. But yeah it's been a great experience it actually recommend using Android as well
Heh, I don’t.
10:02 i do not feel the same. I hate when every website keeps pushing you to download the app. Downloading an app is a different contractual agreement than visiting your website. When u download an app, you are part of a product without realizing it.
Straight up violating that toothbrush. 0:43
Lmaoo
My non-existent gf fr
Facts, I was hoping someone else noticed
The ad for the tablet in their live made me question things 😂
that smart toothbrush scene caught me off-guard hahaha damn near choked on my coffee!!
I have that toothbrush and it's not really that smart. It recognizes when you're applying too much pressure to your teeth but that's it. Everything else is poorly optimized.
You don’t know about the oral b IO line up?
As someone who works in app and web dev industry. I for one hate downloading apps for everything. Web is overall just better and will usually not hoard resources of your device as long as you have good hygiene whereas apps can get access to all sorts of weird local hardware level access and I don’t trust that with every rando app out there.
I prefer apps as they feel more ‘solid’ to me. I hate having to pan around, zoom in and out, and even browse to websites. Particularly when shopping in a store. If there is an app I will always use that. I tend to only install apps I trust anyway. I seldom have issues with an app hogging resources (even when I have several open) though my iPad isn’t the latest.
MK did say it best. Its still a Ipad no matter whats under the hood. You boot it up and you have Ipad OS. I have a M2 12.9 and Newest Pencil before the Pro was announced. So Im good for a replacement for a couple generations. Word of advise. if you can afford the Ipad he just bought. Get the macbook pro M3 with all the bells and whistles.
Nobody uses MacBook unless your a youtuber
@@richdollars8337 This is true. But just from these 2 products. You’ll get more bang for your buck getting a MBpro. It may be a Mac but it’s still a computer as opposed to a tablet pretending to be. That’s all I meant.
@@richdollars8337 Around half the people in my university cohort use a MacBook, including me. This is also the case for most of the universities in the UK.
Yeah I hate when people say this the same argument can be said about the MacBooks they are useless because you can’t play any of the good games and your spending the same price. What do you really need from the MacBook that can’t be done with a iPad if you’re not an editor or UA-camr.
Not even 24 hours since release and hes already dropped the review
Marques came 3hrs earlier
Just saying
But I can’t wait for Aruns pixel 8a first impressions and then review
@@DabigJK yeah that seems properly phrased.
this isn't a review
40k views in 20 minutes should pay for it eventually.
*paid promotion
Not seen the video yet, but I know this is gonna be amazing.
That’s the thing with his videos
@@Pototo201 u are RIGHT
@@Darksouls131u are right about him being right
Haha creator finding one good comment and liking it among the pile of negative yet true comments 😂😂
Ignoring the opinion of poor and peasant , that is true privilege roght there😂😂
@@kINg_Of_yOuTuBe__there is no negative comments. Just complains against apple products that's all.
Anyone complaining Arun, probably are dumb.
For your future smart home you should use home assistant to control everything. Do some research and please make a video showing how it works and what you think of it.