Destiny Talks About (Buying a Porsche, Nathan Moving in, Single Dad Rizz)
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[00:00] Buying a new car fr this time
- 02:43 Dan joins, Lotus Emira
- 06:01 Porsche 911, Ferrari f430
- 10:25 Buying a car for status
- 14:32 Nathan moving in, single dad rizz
- 17:45 Bedtime, parenting
►Date: 17 May, 2024
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13 is def old enough to be left in a house alone
I was going to say unless I'm just completely out of touch my mom would actually have me babysit my siblings when she went out and I got allowance that way. Made me good with kids while also being attentive to my job knowing I'd get 12 dollars for it to spend on videogames lol
I was walking home form school alone with my sister where we'd be alone for a few hours before my mom got home at 10 even.
Give him a laptop and some tissues, he'll keep himself busy.
@Kuroganemk2 what a disgusting way to view a child.
Sure 13 is old enough to be left alone for a like the day but definitely not if he's traveling to like Cali for a weekend. I mean maybe he cam be alone if Steve knows the neighbour's and the neighbors can check up on him.
Steven “I live below my means” bonelli the II
Maybe buying a Porsche is living below his means
@@WileyBoxx Steven “I don’t spend money on expensive unnecessary shit” bonelli the II
@@robbiesarris9072poor 🤢🤮
@robbiesarris9072 I think your missing the critical part of that statement I.e. expensive neccessary and UNAFFORDABLE.....if he is able to afford it and he doesn't preach some ideology that buying this goes against he should go for it
To be fair, a porsche is probably below his means
About Nathan, this was all stuff that Destiny should have spoken to Nathan and Nathan's mom about.
I'm pretty sure he's going to talk to them about too
Having this discussion on stream is... Sometimes I forget Destiny's true antisocial levels man. You have my sympathy Nathan.
how do you know he hasn't
@Raian_The_Demon I might be crazy here, but I think it's pretty obvious her point isn't that he only spoke about it on stream. She obviously has no idea about what they talk about in private. Why would she say that.
She's saying that he shouldn't have had the discussion on stream at all and kept it between him and his family.
Don't know how you guys interpreted her comment as anything else tbh.
@@anbuhyuga8299 I’ll address all points one he can have the conversation with both Dan and Nathan’s mom no problem. Second i dont see the problem talking about how your going to spend time or how you’ll treat your son for the month he’s going to be staying on a live stream it seems pretty harmless. Unless you can demonstrate some harm being committed from his convo with Dan their is no problem
Dan is living vicariously through destiny.
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
@@danoco6385 not sure if you know this but you don't have to idolize every person you watch. Hope this helps 🙏.
@@danoco6385 How do you know much Nathan sees him? 🤨
@@TheRedHaze3 destiny said it last stream when speaking with dan about how Nathan is going to visit and how destiny hasn’t watched Nathan for more than a night Max since he was 7 😂😂
@@TheRedHaze3 lmao that was a pathetic attempt 😂
Dan is just yapping fr
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
@@danoco6385 he split with his sons mother long before Melina. Moron.
@@danoco6385lmfao i couldnt imagine wasting my life so much to hatewatch him for this long 😂 get a life
@@danoco6385huh? You’re saying if you like someone you have to like every aspect of them? Destiny seems cool and is pretty smart but I think most people especially his community recognize that bros got problems just like everyone else
@@capinin2333 no I’ve just seen them cope and defend his relationships endlessly
Dan is such a fucking killjoy. Poor Nathan
Dan sounded stupid lol at 13 I'd love to just relax and play games. He wants to send him to camp with other random kids? Just ask him what he wants to do lol
dan had crazy childhood trauma, ignore everything he says
of course deadbeat dad destiny doesn't know what to do lmao
Honestly hate Dan he's like controlled opposition the stuff he disagrees on is either silly or like "who tf cares about this change the subject plz"
@extralife220 😂Say you've never met anyone who knows someone with a dead beat dad, without saying you have no concept of a dead beat dad.😂
I'm so glad America has reached this stage of privilege. 👌
Lmao your single dad taking you with on a date is wild
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
@@danoco6385hey dick head, he moved for work related reasons and from all the interactions I’ve seen of destiny with his so he seems like a pretty cool decent parent, sure it sucks he had to move because of work reasons but coming from someone that had a dad whom I lived with but did very little with me ever, Destiny seems like a decent father
of course deadbeat dad destiny doesn't know what to do lmao
@@extralife220oh so you’re bots
I see
lmao fr
like who wants to accompany their dad on a date
Destiny figuring out how to be a father now that his kids a teenager 😂😂😂
of course deadbeat dad destiny doesn't know what to do lmao
@@extralife220 Father shouldn't be involved in their child's life. It's the mother's duty. A father ideally should have 20 children, how could he even have time to "care" for them, that would be gay.
@@extralife220bro is seething in the comments 😭
@@paco1022and you’re coping
I knew that Destiny was rich but hearing him say his budget was up to $400k for his car really put that in perspective.
Truly does. I remember a few years ago he said he made 500k a year. But he's more popular now so that might be closer to a million.
Also remember about being a bit more practical and said maybe "200k". Hehe
Every other streamer is richer like ad in, xqc
@@williamwayne4043 Every other streamer is richer like ad in, xqc
Destiny doesn’t understand what the average worker makes… again this guy claimed that trades are bad career choices. The dude is only slightly less spoiled than Hasan piker… just more humble in comparison hasan is a dipshit
Portal 2 with destiny and nathan would be elite
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
@@danoco6385Why all the copy and paste?
@@malluk3065 because dgg thinks destiny is like someone to idolize and he chose a 18 year old girl over his son and she ended up divorcing him hahah. Dgg can never honestly say he’s a good dad so yall just go quite on this topic
Breh we don’t idolize him. It’s entertainment 🤦♂️ sorry that you’re so inept at life that you require a UA-camr to idolize 😂🤡
@@danoco6385 pretty sure he pays for most expenses for his son and ex and talks to him pretty frequently. It’s not the greatest/closest relationship but he’s involved and a lot more then most.
Dan has the 100% correct take you should try make it an event that he looks forward to and gets excited for
Talk to dr k about this. He’ll set you up on the right path for sure.
Could swear he said "Faster than the IRS"
Destiny asking Dan instead of his kid's Mom 💀
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
of course deadbeat dad destiny doesn't know what to do lmao
@danoco6385 when character assassination and ad hominem is your last resort, average assan enjoyers.
@@Zacharysmith-xr1xq I hate hasan more than destiny
@@danoco6385 Why the fuck are you here?
Funniest part about this stream was people so passionate about this that they were donating to a millionaire their car suggestions. He knows none of us can afford these cars he’s not gonna care what we say lmao.
The car community is filled with people who have a deathvow to defend and propagate their brand of choice. It's the worst part about the car community imo
@spaceghosttoast It's the best part of the community, what you mean?
Nothing beats talking about a vehicle that is objectively shit and some dude coming from a random corner just to say it was one of the best and most fun vehicles he ever had even though he worked on it ALL the time.
There is something admirable yet so beautifully naive about the car community. I love and hate it 🥲
I want to see an irl Destiny and Nathan stream at like Disney World or something, that would be awesome!
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
@@danoco6385 we gotta pressure him to do better!
@@schwifty148 you replied to a bot
Just bite the bullet and get an M5
Haha mechanic special
Porche taycan gts or a rivian r1s
Destiny and an mx5 are made for eachother tbh
I would of ran away from home if Dan was my parent
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
@@danoco63851. you can think someone is smart and has good ideas about politics without thinking they have good ideas on relationships
2. This is something him and his ex worked out together for what they thought was best for his kid (destiny providing a massive income)
3. Destiny seems to be in pretty close contact with his kid. He also has about as much contact as a deployed military dad or an oil rig dad and more than a lot of divorced dads so 🤷♂️
You gonna use the same reply for every single comment? 💀💀@danoco6385
@@danoco6385cringe
@@danoco6385 All this copy and paste is pretty sad man. You must feel pretty strongly about this.
Is this Dan fella always sarcastic/satirical or is he being serious?
nah he's just on edge on stream because both destiny and the chat want him to be like that.
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
@@danoco6385I never understood that word 'dgg' what does it mean
@@danoco6385what does dgg mean
@@danoco6385 100
Bedtime enforcement is a hundred perthhent, Dan?
15:25 LOOOOL
Nah dan makes summer sound broing asf
Dan is a monster. lol.
The new M5 BMW fully stock all-wheel drive you can switch it from a manual to automatic and you can turn off the all-wheel drive as well
Having a Miata as a second car isnt gratuitous at all. Everyone knows a Miata is a great little second budget sports car. You dont even have to be rich to do it, they're very affordable.
If you are looking into a new 911 in manual the Carrera 4 GTS would be your best option as it’s awd… probably around 220k with options. You won’t get a turbo in manual awd
Best advice is to leave the kid alone, let him do his own thing creatively. As long as they are respecting you as your parent, not much parenting needs to be done. So many parents over do it these days and some don’t do enough. You have to have a balance.
Get a Mazda CX5 or CX50 for a decent size higher suspension mini suv. Great value cars and even the base models have a nice interior. Obviously you should get the highest model though (platinum I think?)
The learning how to code/computer science stuff is a great idea! But Destiny should set some time aside daily to help teach him and help him understand. He himself was talking about the importance or routines, and teaching something to your kid that they are interested in is such a fantastic way to bond with them!
Please give us another Nathan debate!
destiny finally arriving at porsche. little late, but we knew he'd come around.
Bmw 550i 500hp, awd, 4 doors twin turbo v8.
The thumbnail with the gigachad kid 😭😭😭
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
@@danoco6385 Ehhm, we don't.
@@bennymountain1 maybe not you but majority of his fans defend his parenting hahahaha
@@bennymountain1 god you guys pathetic following and idolizing. Destiny
@danoco6385 bro you’re under every fucking comment chill out, no one here idolized him ever when it came to relationships
13 is old enough to have a computer alone, but you just have to keep an eye on it, and actually keep an eye on it.
Honestly a 911 turbo or gt3 is an amazing driving car and you can get manual. Also another porshce option that is amazing is the 718 Cayman gt4 . R8 is great. Once you are at the point of spending 250k on a car you can choose anything and it will be a great driving experience. Also they will all be faster than a focus RS. The only issue is the manual point cause there’s not many newer cars that come manual. It’s disappointing but modern paddles are a whole new experience that I’ve found to be great.
Kids are not that hard, figure out what they like to do and try to spend time doing that activity with them. Make sure they are eating well, sleeping well, and getting occasional socialization from other people besides you. That can be from online friends if its just for a month, but it could be a good idea to do a once a week or once every other week outside activity that requires some sort of skill to learn and grow from, be that a social one, physical one, or whatever.
Play games if that's what he likes to do, go paly tennis or whatever sport he might enjoy, literally just spending time engaged with the kid and caring about whatever they are interested in is all you have to do. I don't know why people make it more complicated than it is
Honda Prelude ❤
The rs6 avant
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
Gym Stream with Nathan would be amazin'
As long as Nathan is down ofc
Dan might be goat dad
You need an M3 or M4 comp 😎
A new Porsche 911 turbo is a very nice car to drive, has awd, and is fast as fuck.
Destiny wants a GT2RS and literally nothing would be better
gigachad nathan in the thumbnail lol
GTR or LC500
Audi R8👍👍
Steve: what should I do with Nathan while he sober for a month?
Dan: ship him off to summer camp every day
How do you not register your car for seven years? How is that legal?
You just can't drive it on the road. With certain exceptions. (If you recently bought it, if you do a steve jobs type loophole... Stuff like that.)
Porsche is the best handling vehicle on the market
That’s not a vehicle, that’s a car maker
Not gonna lie man at 13 all I wanted to do was play call of duty 😭 no extreme activities needed
Please drop Dan man what an absolute weirdo, dude sounds insane
Destiny get a GTR or BMW M340i
Both of them are glued to the road, and are much faster than your Focus RS now. Both of them are AWD.
You could get a BMW M4 Competition xDrive, BMW M5, or Audi RS5.
All of these are AWD, fast af compared to a Focus RS, and much better.
I'm actually a mechanic Destiny, I can help with this.
Let me know
Have Doug demuro on bridges, he can help decide
That would be fire actually
and whenever destiny talks abt his son it's clear that he has a lot of trauma to decompress from his childhood, absolutely not aware of how things are and ought to be for children in regularly functioning households
I can’t believe these 2 are dads…
Maserati mc20 of you want something a bit more original
23:48
Wait, did he said he has an "Alien"? Has Destiny really got Laugo Alien the meme gun?
Destiny just gotta make sure his car is more expensive than Hasans LMAO
Porsche is a standard divorced dad vibe 😂
C6 ZR1 PLEASE STEVEN
Can we get a drop Dan rally
Just upgrade your RS, get a bigger turbo
Miata, perfect size for him
Manuel transmissions are so fun but you’re always going to be slower than an auto especially in that price range. Destiny shouldn’t worry about 1/4 mile, 0-60 or any of that and just go test drive a handful of cars and see which one he likes. No Lotus or Aston M, for the love of god don’t get a Miata and don’t listen to Dan. Cayenne, gt3 rs, taycan
Nissan gtr
When Dan snapped slightly and said "Can we look at designs now?" And Destiny was meekishly saying "Okay"
Lmao wtf was that. Please tell me Dan was playing the attitude up for chat
Title to thumbnail pictures with Destiny's face sends wrong message, I thought Nathan was a new boyfriend. Buying Porsche/picture of car, makes sense. Destiny's kid moving in/very suggestive photo of a silhouette(that i thought was a fit, bald black man)
young nate is cooked
Ever since Dan came back I keep wishing he would leave again
Unique would be the Honda/Acura NSX Hybrid which is really fucking fun driving, amazing drive, back when I bought my Type R GT back in 2016 I also test drove the NSX, fell in love with it, Japanese cars are just something else.
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
@@danoco6385Worst bot I’ve ever seen…
@@malluk3065 why doesn’t dgg ever defend their idol destiny when it comes to his parenting hahahaah. Yall always go super quiet hahahahahahaha. Stay mad, destiny himself can’t defend himself because he knows he a terrible dad hahahahaha
@@danoco6385 nice bait, totally unrelated to what I wrote though.
@@strajkz well destiny fans never explain to me why they think destiny is a good father. He failed at the most important thing in life, he Jerks off 15 times a day and left his son for a 18 year old who enddd up cheating on him HAHAHAHAHAJAJAJ
destiny should get a good motorcycle instead of car, there are so many cars everywhere, i think especially in the us motorcycles are pretty op right now, yea theres 2/3 person limit but you can zip through traffic supa fast and not many people have motorcycles compared to cars so its definitely more unique
GET A BMW M5 CS & CALL IT A DAY 😎
he should get a audi rs6
Just make Nathan do dishes and let him stay up til midnight. He’ll be okay
"Destiny deserves a 911"
Gt4rs more torquey than the gt3
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
“Too busy” to be a father to his son btw
I wouldn’t necessarily take Dans advice about parenting if I where destiny. His situation is totally different than Dan’s and Dan sounds a little to strict and not trusting of his kids(not judging). I don’t think taking an adversarial approach towards your kid who visiting on vacation when you’re basically the interesting absentee parent is a good move. His mom got him this far and now that Nathans a teenager It’s time for Destiny to take the lead and develop him into a good man, which is kind of ironic him being a strong,independent woman and all.
I just wanna pay rent 😂😂
Fr!
dan is so wrong on the nathan part
Soooo, is Dan trolling on the whole parenting thing? Thank god his kids have a mother.
Just get a Acura NSX and call it a day
Audi rs6
If he had balls he'd get an NB Miata ls swap
Destiny should introduce nathan to the gym!
Jesus Dan’s advice has been so cringe lately. It’s like he’s constantly performing for the audience.
That’s just Dan. He’s paving the way for any one of us to get on stream by consuming all the cringe. A man for the people
Destiny is such a bad dad hahaha, none of dgg have anything to say when I say that. Nathan sees him like 6 times a year because he chose a 18 year old Melina over being a dad hahaha. And yall idolize this man 😂
@@danoco6385 I mean everything you said is wrong lol.
He didn't choose Melina over his son.
Melina wasn't 18 when they got together.
And I don't think most ppl here idolize him.
As far as public information goes we know he has shared custody of Nathan with his mom. He lives in Miami for work and they live in Nebraska. Calling him a bad dad cause of this is so out of touch. Do you also think any divorced father is a bad dad? He is divorced and had to move states for work. That doesn't make someone a bad dad.
@@ArthurMartins-jw8fq I think someone who claims they don’t know how to baby sit there own child and claims “I haven’t watched Nathan since he was 7” HAHAHAHAHAH, oh sorry Melina was almost 20 hahahahahahahahah. Also why didn’t you say destiny didn’t claim he jerks off 15 times a day auahhahahahahahahahaah. Y’all keep taking L after L
@@ArthurMartins-jw8fq when he was in LA he never watched him either. He doesn’t like taking care of his son or else he would. Last time they played video games on stream destiny was asking Nathan about regular things that HIM AS A FATHER shouldn’t have to ask his son hahahahahah, your really trying to defend your idol, it’s funny most dgg don’t try to defend this cause they know he’s terrible dad hahahahahaj
Dudes been publicly shamed into actually being a dad for his son… pretty sad.
Alfa Romeo quadrifoglio
Wow, even the name of that thing is gay european 😂
Poor kid…
Honestly the only thing I feel bad for Nathan is the constant hate online calling his father a dead beat (even though Nathan clearly likes him) and people constantly talking about him in contexts. I mean have you seen the comments destiny gets when he posts a pic with Nathan, calling him inbred and other terrible shit, it's deplorable.
@@uuw_ do you have children?
@@slaxxx Yes, 2
@@uuw_ and you don’t feel bad about Nathan not being raised by his father? Are you aware of the research on this?
@@slaxxxHe's present in his sons life. I don't think it's a big deal if you don't live with both parents, the problem comes from them not being an active part in the childs life.
As a car guy the lexus is the best choice actually reliable car but also a luxury sports car
What a joke of a father.
Hes actually gonna copy Hasan’s car 😂
Hasan shouldn't have got a nice car
Hasan should just give to him if he stands by his values. Socialism = no car, remember?
Gt3rs
Bro let him do what he wants
Nah, kids need structure, or they become unstructured adults.
@@vectormatrix8799 It's literally for one month in summer, it ain't that serious
of course deadbeat dad destiny doesn't know what to do lmao
Dan has no idea what he is talking about
Get a Kia stinger 💀
Dont buy an old ferrari like dan wants itll spend most of its time in a shop
How are you a father for 13 years and think the best idea is to keep your son in room playing video games for 4 weeks straight? I mean wtf?
There are so many other options: go to the beach, bowling, to Disney World since you’re in Florida, eat out something he likes, play video games together, go biking, teach him about something you enjoy and maybe she’s curious about and if he’s shy or something ASK HIM (or his mother who knows him better) what he likes!
For how smart Steven is, this is a unhinged level of stupidity
you guys are mad at dan, but your reasonings are exactly why so many young people in society are undersocialized. i don't think you're even viewing him as a child if you think summer should just be spent relaxing and playing games, nor do i think you even know what those camp programs offer.
consider the following:
-Wakes up at whatever time and dad makes him clean his room and do routine; but they don't down for breakfast and have that comfortable space to get to know each other, and they do need to get to know each other because just having the labels"dad" and "son" do are not, have never been, and never will be suffiecient enough to have a strong bond to where the both of them are excited to just be in each others' presence the way a father and son ought to be.
- Dad goes to work "10 hours a day streaming in the next room" and rather than being in the *house*, he spends all of his time in his bedroom. cannot understate how negative that is for healthy development, child or adult. he should want to enjoy being in the full living space, and enjoy stepping outside of it even if only for 10 minutes a day to talk a walk with steven.
- Nothing wrong with spending those afternoon hours playing fnaf or whatever it is he enjoys, but if he does that for a full evening during the summer and his electronics are in the room... how do you expect him to sleep well. think abt that fully in the most honest ways possible because (assuing you're an adult or at least college-aged), there's no chance you aren't fully aware about the blue light thing and how spaces can blend innappropriately when your mind and body feel like the bedroom is a place for entertainment instead of personal time and rest.
this *is* what steven is talking abt when he says discipline btw which for some reason it seems like a lot of ddg is surprisingly too immature to understand. you are absolutely doing your child a disservice by taking them out of an environment where basic and appropriate routines are set in place, and allowing those routines to be broken in your space. an extended bed time is more than fine for summer, but for the same reasons he has a morning routine, he *needs* to have a night time routine which should include more than just brushing your teeth. aka making sure you are sufficiently filled with whatever your supper was so you're not getting up in the middle of the night for snacks, putting your electronics away in a place where you won't be tempted to reach them in the middle of the night, and reading (which i would encourage them to do together) for at the bare minimum 15 minutes because that's how the fuck you develop your brain. take advtange of diffuse learning to make sure he's not taking a "break" from education during the summer and returns to school with a lower baseline than his peers who had proper routines. effective learning is continous. not to mention that we all know that just the act of reading before bed can literally make you sleepy, x100000000 times more effective for a child, yet you'd rather him have his brain being stimulated by horror games on roblox minutes before jumping into bed, and expect him to have a full night's sleep...?
idk there's so much to say abt it that's kind of frustrating to even think abt cause i assumed dgg wouldn't be the type of community that struggles to understand this, but children are not adults and just should not be treated as adults. point blank. meet them where they are and be entirely concious that with every action or inaction you take, you are directly developing them into the people they'll be as adults. a kid who spent summers doing camp activies OUTSIDE WITH OTHER KIDS instead of just playing games and interacting with other kids virtually will fair infinitely better in spaces where they'll need to self-motivate themselves to do shit like oh i don't know, having a drive to seek extracurriculurs, take advtange of school programs, and have meaningful experiences and a genuine want to do outdoor volunteering? not as if any of those things will ever matter in a couple of years when he's in high school because obviously we shouldn't ever strive to raise our children to be top performers in their high schools. not as if that stuff will ever matter when it comes to the opportunities you will be presented by simply having a variety of accredited colleges to go to. not as if that stuff will ever matter when they're gaining their first work based experience as an intern in a corporate company where they will be competing against the dozens of other interns hoping to get rolled into full time employement from the company you work at. not as if when you start working full time that you will be expected to stand out by actively seeking responsiblility, networking effectively, and showing off your well-developed soft skills that will make you a worthy candidate for managerial positions. who gives a fuck about upwards mobility? not as you won't be expected to prove yourself at the higher standards associated with the higher expectations of your new title; which means doing things like taking courses or enrolling part time in school to demonstrate your uncapped potential and ambition to the company, along with a healthy personal curiosity about the world and long term goal of continous education. not as if any of those things will set nathan up to be a person compotent, capable, and confident enough to strive to make a man of himself in a world where his father already casts a huge shadow. why should a rich and famous person's kid ever want to forge their own path, obviously they'll be just as meaningful members of society if they coast on their laurels behind their father, living with no purpose other than to be "successful" through nepotism without any achievements that will give them a positive outlook on life so that they will further pour back into the world that made them. give a fuck abt any of that though, i'm sure a kid like nathan totally won't develop any sort of complex relating to the type of man he is in comparison to the legacy of his father. especially given the looooong time of 10 whole years before he's 23, or 5 years for those who'd kick your 18 year old "adults" out the house.
his future is so far away that obviously something as insignifcant as the way he spends the only (to my knowledge) time he has to live with his father in those core developmental years that he'd need his father the most to avoid the common pitfalls many teenagers with lazy parents experience during those those far away 2 years of 15 onwards.
if anything steven is the retarded one for caring at all about being intentional about the way he spends time with his teenage boy, and he's even more retarded for asking a friend of his who actively parents his teenage boys for more than one month in a year (no diss), and in case i forgot to mention- dan is the retarded one for suggesting summer camp cause all we (dgg) know abt summer is from but i'm a cheerleader and friday the 13th (never went outside and too clueless to even fathom the amazing opportunities they missed out on life), in miami beach fucking florida where my more than affluent father can put me in spaces where i experience things that "normal people" (dggers) don't even fucking know exist because they think the type of summer camps dan suggested are akin to what they didn't even bother to experience in their lower middle class communities (too terminally online to ever have any substantive value to add to the topic of raising your child for the single non-school month of the year where they're living with you).