Kate Liu - Fantasy in F minor Op. 49 (first stage)

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  • @hitode0832
    @hitode0832 2 місяці тому +10

    何回も聴いてる この曲屈指の名演

  • @ericalapayre722
    @ericalapayre722 4 роки тому +94

    I'm just recovering from a heavy heart surgery. The day of the operation I had this piece in my head and when I woke it was still there, and ever since. Here I'm sitting with IV's everywhere and machines monitoring my body, sweating my ass off trying my best to write something which makes sense. What I really want to say is that this piece served by an outstanding pianist has definitely and will have for ever a special meaning to me. As if Chopin (and the surgeon) saved my life.

    • @marshallartz395
      @marshallartz395 3 роки тому +13

      Erica Lapaya: Lovely comment, and I hope your recovery from heart surgery is going well.

    • @chrisy367
      @chrisy367 2 роки тому +5

      Get well asap!

    • @sltomsik
      @sltomsik 2 роки тому +1

      Been there. Understandable.
      I feel this is the best recording, and truest performance on UA-cam.
      All the others, excepting the old performance by Arturo Benedetti Michelangeli, are disappointments.

    • @sltomsik
      @sltomsik 2 роки тому +1

      There was an ICU patient in VFIB, code Blue, who stopped the crash card and said "can I have 4 minutes to bring this down? Please hand me my guitar in the corner."
      The surgeon nodded OK, the nurse handed the guitar over, and in under 2 minutes, the EKG was normal and stable.
      The music was s Renaissance piece called Siciliana, it's over ,500 years old, and it changes brain waves and calms heart arrhythmia.
      Guitarists at family venues play pieces like this to quiet the fussy toddlers before playing the main recital.

  • @annelysecombitsis7553
    @annelysecombitsis7553 4 роки тому +49

    I can't tell you how many times I've watched this. I will never get tired of her rendition.

    • @JoyAndWhimsy17
      @JoyAndWhimsy17 Рік тому +2

      I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT THAT

  • @sandplus5048
    @sandplus5048 4 роки тому +102

    Kate has finally finished from Juilliard and is now a professional pianist, making her world tour.
    July 12, 2020.

    • @PianistStefanBoetel
      @PianistStefanBoetel 3 роки тому +9

      She was already a professional pianist in 2015. Maybe you can call it an ”accomplished“ pianist. In the end, her artistry matters. Surely she developed it further while attending Julliard. But her professionalism doesn‘t just start with her degree. It developed way before.

    • @pianoplaynight
      @pianoplaynight Рік тому +2

      ​@@PianistStefanBoetel well put. This level of artistiry doesn't need a piece of paper to be validated.

  • @hyramesshiramess1035
    @hyramesshiramess1035 9 років тому +94

    SUBLIME! I have never heard the F-Minor Fantasy played so well and with such tremendous understanding. This young woman is a marvelous artist in every regard.

    • @meredith218461
      @meredith218461 7 років тому +16

      I totally agree! She brings poetry, drama and grandeur to this great work, all without exaggeration.
      Surely we'll hear more of this exceptional young woman.

  • @with_yena
    @with_yena 2 роки тому +10

    chopin fantaisie op49 졸연곡이었던 음대졸업생인데 내기준 케이트가 가장 훌륭하고 아름다움.

  • @blacksmith9338
    @blacksmith9338 Рік тому +3

    Happy Birthday Kate !!! may 23 (2023) .
    we love you so much .
    we will want Kate to play a lot of Chopin music from now on .

  • @Zhinarkos
    @Zhinarkos 12 днів тому +1

    I learned of this piece's existence through a masterclass done by Stephen Kovacevich. The student was Nicolas van Poucke. I fell in love with the piece instantly and it's on my list of pieces I wish to learn some day (in the very distant future, considering my progress).
    I'd personally want maybe a bit more excitement and speed for this piece but it's hard to argue with Liu's execution. Her performance of Chopin's Op 62 no 1 is probably what everyone's obsessed with mostly, given how exquisitely beautifully she plays the piece. That same expression of beauty continues here.
    One of the challenges as a listener and especially as a performer is that - quite ironically - we don't listen all that well. We are not one with the music. A lot of times our focus wanders and we keep thinking about other things, or feeling other things. With playing there's the added challenge of dealing with the technicalities - it's bloody hard to play the piano. All effort goes into just executing the muscular and logical process. One of the amazing qualities of Horowitz, to me, is that he was able to essentially "perk up" people's focus and their natural ability to listen. Because it is natural but we need a certain frame of mind and environment for it to kick in. Horowitz was a master of creating that attention with silence.
    I think Liu shares that same quality. A lot of that has to do with counting: she takes her time, more so than many others but despite of this she doesn't feel slow. If anything, she makes everyone else seem like they are rushing. Another thing is that she respects the breaks - silence is a genuine part of the musical process and is needed in order for the ears to engage. Horowitz knew it and she knows it.

  • @carlhopkinson
    @carlhopkinson 9 років тому +50

    Listened to this again and I still can't believe how good this is.....a miraculous performance of transcendant music!!

  • @ww-xe6wv
    @ww-xe6wv 3 роки тому +14

    She had a big mistake in10-2 etude but this opus49 fantasy saved her.A perfect and amazingly perform.KATE is so fantastic and I love her.

  • @stephenaulie2540
    @stephenaulie2540 7 років тому +37

    10:38- 10:51: Romanticism all summed up here played by a MASTER. No need for further elaboration. Kate Liu stands alone.

  • @JoyAndWhimsy17
    @JoyAndWhimsy17 Рік тому +4

    I love how she plays it slower than most renditions! IMO it sounds a lot more natural and expressive when played slow. When it’s faster, it sounds rushed.

  • @blacksmith1699
    @blacksmith1699 6 місяців тому +3

    Happy birthday Kate !! may 23 (2024).
    We love you so much!!.
    we want Kate to play a lot of Chopin music from now on.
    I'm looking forward to it .

  • @liceous
    @liceous 5 років тому +22

    9:24 multiple people wiping tears during the chorale. no one has ever expressed it so deeply and refined as kate did.

  • @堀井彰人
    @堀井彰人 6 років тому +41

    I really like her this piece. her touch on keys looks and sounds so natural, and she didn't show us any strained rough.
    I didn't know about her before she participated in this competition, but she turned to my favorite pianist in a moment.
    She was the best. thank you Kate.

  • @gunjo306
    @gunjo306 3 роки тому +8

    我是个业余音乐爱好者。这首曲子我听了很多遍,刘凯特充满了激情的演奏让我震撼。她是用她的心在弹奏,她把全身心投入到了这首曲子里,加上她的高超的技巧使这首曲子表现得流畅、充满了激情和忘我。我觉得从来没听过这样让我感动的F小调幻想曲。感谢你刘凯特,你让我更加喜欢美好的古典音乐。

  • @silviapavani-devisser1150
    @silviapavani-devisser1150 3 роки тому +8

    wow, so much suspense and mystery and wanting to find out at each step where the music is going. Nothing is taken for granted in this execution.

  • @WarinPartita6
    @WarinPartita6 4 роки тому +8

    Thanks​ for​ this​ sensitive​ rendition​ of​ the​ Chopin​ masterpiece.​ It's​ really​ a​ fantasy in​ your​ hands, Kate.​

  • @Fritz_Maisenbacher
    @Fritz_Maisenbacher 8 місяців тому +4

    9:59 Gold Medal directly at the "first stage" ! What would you expect more ? ..........

  • @alfredoparamo3139
    @alfredoparamo3139 4 роки тому +8

    What a joy it is for me to hear the music of Fryderyk Franciszek Chopin performed by Kate Liu every day. Thank you for this gift.

  • @가을시선-h9y
    @가을시선-h9y 8 років тому +33

    she has a natural feeling of how she progress phrasing from strat to end.

  • @isabellllee
    @isabellllee 3 роки тому +9

    Kate Liu’s and SeongJin Cho’s Fantasies are the two best(favorite) Fantasies in my opinion

  • @gabrielbustos2706
    @gabrielbustos2706 10 місяців тому +3

    4:21 is absolutely magical, feels like I’m flying

  • @sk-fk7om
    @sk-fk7om 2 роки тому +7

    Her performance is dynamic and delicate.
    She is a favorite pianist.

  • @PianistStefanBoetel
    @PianistStefanBoetel 3 роки тому +10

    Kate and Chopin are our channel to the universe.

  • @tadl.4196
    @tadl.4196 5 років тому +11

    The best performance of the Fantasy at this Competition

  • @blacksmith9338
    @blacksmith9338 Рік тому +4

    Kate is the person whom my life cannot lack in.

  • @natevizzi2901
    @natevizzi2901 3 роки тому +7

    This is the best performance I’ve ever seen

  • @jefflin21
    @jefflin21 6 років тому +43

    Can't imagine a better performance of Chopin's Fantasy! Kate left it all out there. Bravo!!

  • @AnnaSzarek-FDD
    @AnnaSzarek-FDD 2 роки тому +4

    Niezmiennie od Konkursu mnie zachwyca... ❤️🌷🌷🌷

  • @angelinema4330
    @angelinema4330 6 років тому +16

    best rendition of this piece i have ever heard. marvelously executed, as expected. brava kate!

  • @gil-evens
    @gil-evens 7 років тому +32

    One of the pianist with the most soulful touch in this competition.
    Elle possède cette douceur de toucher dans le pianissimo qui frôle l'extase divin et a la capacité de restituer une velléité certaine dans les passages les plus dynamiques sans tomber dans l'agressivité. Bravo.

    • @竹田則子-v9t
      @竹田則子-v9t 6 років тому +1

      Acid God ななななななははななな

  • @solbriller1
    @solbriller1 9 років тому +31

    In few weeks since i heard you the first time, you have turned to be my favourite pianist.

  • @alfredocastaneda1474
    @alfredocastaneda1474 7 років тому +10

    Kate's performances have fill my soul and heart. She is a great musician!

  • @vivonili
    @vivonili 6 років тому +17

    Kate is an impersonation of the Divine , makes me tear with gratitude:))

  • @blacksmith1699
    @blacksmith1699 2 роки тому +4

    This performancce is the best. !!!
    Kate Liu is the world no 1 .!!!

  • @mwk6489
    @mwk6489 9 років тому +29

    Kate Liu!!!!!!!
    She is amazing!

  • @noemipataky3465
    @noemipataky3465 4 роки тому +11

    Best performance of this piece I've ever heard!

  • @carlhopkinson
    @carlhopkinson 9 років тому +64

    Epic performance!!!! I have never heard someone who could control such a soft
    pianissississimo (pppp) like she does. She definitely deserves to move on to later rounds!!!!

    • @samuelmusic4836
      @samuelmusic4836 4 роки тому +1

      Carl Hopkinson
      Martha Argerich ruined the show. She thinks she is all mighty. She once expressed that she hates Asians who is better than her. Not much of a human being.

    • @benjaminhopff4089
      @benjaminhopff4089 4 роки тому +3

      @@samuelmusic4836 Doesn't sound like Martha Argerich at all. Where did you get this from?

    • @rtel123
      @rtel123 3 роки тому +3

      Yes, love her extraordinary Pianissississimo. Some credit goes to the new Yamaha/Boesendorfer collaboration in this magnificent new CFX piano.

    • @marshallartz395
      @marshallartz395 3 роки тому +6

      @@samuelmusic4836: I would avoid attributing controversial statements to famous artists like Martha Argerich unless you can site sources that can be verified by others.

    • @Fritz_Maisenbacher
      @Fritz_Maisenbacher Рік тому

      "Deserves to move on to later rounds" ...................... Haha .... what ? the girl stays already in History.
      Her unique touch, the supra elegance of her inspiration, sudden beauty, softness, delicacy and utter deep drama, this all together .... she sits near Lipatti, Hofmann, Tamarkina, Hambourg, Lhevinne, von Sauer ............

  • @suzyyu7179
    @suzyyu7179 6 років тому +10

    Your love for music is far beyond than any judges can understand! Competition never perfect because it was set up by human…

  • @samuelmusic4836
    @samuelmusic4836 4 роки тому +15

    As far as I am concerned, Kate is the BEST pianist currently. Most other pianist can play perfectly according to the music scores, Kate has that technique perfectly horned. We are hearing music here, not some one is practicing to play a piece.
    Even my old faithful Arthur Rubinstein does not devote emotion to his favorite Chopin.
    On the other hand, since technique is out of the way, she is free to express Chopin.
    IMHO

    • @dorianmearns7407
      @dorianmearns7407 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah I agree I think her and Daniil Trifonov are the best

    • @themoroccanpianist8953
      @themoroccanpianist8953 3 роки тому

      how do you define or describe someone who is playing music ?

    • @BRNRDNCK
      @BRNRDNCK 3 роки тому

      @@dorianmearns7407 Also check out Charles Richard-Hamelin

  • @excelsior999
    @excelsior999 3 роки тому +3

    Brava to the max. Besides being an extraordinary pianist, Ms. Liu is living proof that (out of respect for the composer, the audience, and most of all, herself) a young lady (or a not-so-young-anymore female) does not have to dress like a pianist in a cocktail bar located in a 3rd rate hotel miles off of the Las Vegas Strip in order to impress the audience (or in this case, the judges).

  • @liceous
    @liceous 6 років тому +15

    10:46 can i just say the clarity and dynamics of such a technically challenging octave run are astounding

    • @orlandocfi
      @orlandocfi 3 роки тому +3

      Her interpretation is very similar to Zimerman’s….and, dare I say, better!

  • @TheRegina78
    @TheRegina78 6 років тому +7

    you' re absolutely my favorite......great great Kate,....whit you I hear Chopin

  • @orlandocfi
    @orlandocfi 3 роки тому +4

    I think this might be the definitive interpretation of this work. It’s pure artistry. I love the Zimerman studio recording, but it doesn’t tug at the heart the way Ms Liu does in this performance.

  • @jimc1466
    @jimc1466 3 роки тому +4

    Bravo and I wish you a long and successful career, thank you for your talent, the world needs you

  • @retrocules
    @retrocules 3 роки тому +4

    This deserves a million views!

  • @akitoh8329
    @akitoh8329 9 років тому +45

    I love her sound come from soul.

  • @pauld8156
    @pauld8156 7 років тому +8

    Anyone can play music. She plays music with her heart, And the hearth of others.

  • @BryanHo
    @BryanHo 3 роки тому +5

    It's as if she channels the spirit of Chopin into her fingers. Spellbinding.

  • @中嶋きよみ
    @中嶋きよみ 3 місяці тому +5

    ちょっと聞いたところ、日本の雪の降る道をに聞こえます。一度弾いてみたくて、楽譜を申し込みました。

  • @dryades1
    @dryades1 Рік тому +3

    와 이 곡이 이렇게 좋은 곡이였나….ㅠㅠ

  • @WitoldBanasik
    @WitoldBanasik 9 років тому +19

    Kate had made me speechless and motionlIess. I was turned myself into the keyboard, the stool, and the pedals under her divine feet.

  • @with_yena
    @with_yena 2 роки тому +4

    피아노 페달링도 너무 계산이 잘되어있고 너무 아름다운데...케이트리우 빠져든다

  • @rodolfo0506
    @rodolfo0506 3 роки тому +4

    Kate Liu, the integral beauty of the Aeternal Women at her best

  • @stephenaulie2540
    @stephenaulie2540 6 років тому +81

    When she finally decides to go on tour, she will play to full houses.

    • @sandplus5048
      @sandplus5048 4 роки тому +1

      Stephen Aulie
      She is now on tour, check out what time and where.

    • @marshallartz395
      @marshallartz395 4 роки тому +2

      Sandro Lee:
      As of August 19, 2020, I found only one upcoming recital for Kate Liu, and it is not yet listed on her website.
      It is tentatively scheduled for February 21, 2021 at the Mairs Concert Hall at Macalester College in St. Paul, Minnesota.
      Her recital at the Helsingborg Piano Festival in Sweden is postponed until 2021. All of these cancellations are due to the Corona virus pandemic, and her website has yet to be updated to reflect these changes.
      If you can confirm any other scheduled performances, please let us know. 😎🎹

  • @Rx-mn5fv
    @Rx-mn5fv 8 років тому +9

    Simply good sense and a feel for touch. Plus an abundance of talent Bravo!

  • @pauld8156
    @pauld8156 7 років тому +20

    l Like when God winks at us with the talent of humans who have with such beauty.

  • @jeremychoe2608
    @jeremychoe2608 8 років тому +15

    Great interpretation

  • @sandplus5048
    @sandplus5048 4 роки тому +4

    This is like God looks down upon us, and have pity on our suffering from COVID-19. God said, as he always does, let us have some comfort in our souls and peace. He said here goes Kate, go and enjoy.

  • @PieInTheSky9
    @PieInTheSky9 2 роки тому +5

    I'm in love.

  • @pauld8156
    @pauld8156 7 років тому +10

    i think the the word is ethereal. Yep that is her.

  • @liceous
    @liceous 7 років тому +11

    6:28 - 6:32 masterclass in dynamics right here

    • @angelinemapiano2543
      @angelinemapiano2543 5 років тому +4

      i get goosebumps and tears in my eyes. she is so amazing

  • @joycelee2568
    @joycelee2568 9 років тому +19

    Fantastic.

  • @WilfriedBerk
    @WilfriedBerk Рік тому +3

    Great rendition!

  • @helenavondrakenstein4969
    @helenavondrakenstein4969 6 років тому +8

    The pianos in Chopin's time never sounded quite like this...they didn't have the boom and bang of todays instruments.....I wonder if Chopin would enjoy the modern pianos?

  • @VooBag
    @VooBag 3 роки тому +5

    I love you, Kate.

  • @user_sijfjg23o8edi
    @user_sijfjg23o8edi 4 роки тому +8

    어떤곡을 쳐도 달라..~~ 👍👍
    I love you Kate Liu From S.Korea

  • @junepark5715
    @junepark5715 6 років тому +11

    it heals my ears♡♡

  • @mingshiwu5765
    @mingshiwu5765 Рік тому +2

    Best version of op49

  • @JA-zs7fw
    @JA-zs7fw 9 років тому +18

    love this !!! this is great!!!

  • @samuelmusic4836
    @samuelmusic4836 4 роки тому +9

    The judges are not fair or racially biased. Never since Rubinstein has such good Chopin. They should set up a special honor prize for Kate. I don’t know how can they vote such a rare gem in third. This is a big insult to us, to our world 🌎 !!!!
    Love you Kate ❤️❤️🌹

    • @zacksima8333
      @zacksima8333 4 роки тому +2

      nah look at Li Yundi he got first back in 2000 and he's Chinese

    • @marshallartz395
      @marshallartz395 3 роки тому +4

      Samuel Music: Please remember that Kate Liu was a major prize winner in this very prestigious, and highly competitive, competition. And she also received a special award for her Mazurka performances.
      I think it is unfair to suggest racial bias among the jury. After all, Seong-Jin Cho, 1st prize winner, and Kate Liu, 3rd prize winner are both Asian (Cho, from South Korea, and Liu, originally from Singapore).
      Kate Liu would have been my choice for 1st prize, too; but there is no denying that Seong -Jin Cho is an outstanding pianist. And while I may not agree with the jury’s choice, I think they tried their best to be reasonable and fair.
      I expect her career to blossom, with major recordings and videos to look forward to in the future.
      Go Kate! 😎🎹

  • @arlpoon6423
    @arlpoon6423 7 років тому +10

    so beautiful!

  • @Thiago-px9ev
    @Thiago-px9ev 2 роки тому +2

    Those "Liu" pianists are amazing, aren't they? My two very favorites from 2015 and 2020 edition!

  • @zuinfinitiv
    @zuinfinitiv 9 років тому +10

    very beautiful~!!

  • @aalb1970
    @aalb1970 4 роки тому +5

    What a great talent!

  • @mariaceciliamaringonidecar904
    @mariaceciliamaringonidecar904 6 років тому +3

    Maravilhosa interpretação! Muito Obrigada! Parabéns, você é esplêndida!!!

  • @vindhielin
    @vindhielin 8 років тому +32

    I have to admit that her performance for this fantasy was better than cho. She played it very tidy, clean and with very touching emotion. I can feel the flow of her playing so smooth and beautiful. Whereas cho playing is a bit too much rubato and not flowing hence lack of emotion. Still, both of them are very great pianist ! It's just everyone has their own strenghts and weaknesses in playing different pieces.

    • @vindhielin
      @vindhielin 8 років тому +3

      Yap. It's a pity that her op 10 no 2 had some slips, she must be nervous in such big competition. But luckily the fantasy save her :) and not to forget her op 10 no 5 was also great !

    • @堀井彰人
      @堀井彰人 7 років тому +3

      Exactly!!!

    • @hjhseo1114
      @hjhseo1114 6 років тому +2

      I believe its a matter of preference. Some people like this "too much rubato".

    • @helenavondrakenstein4969
      @helenavondrakenstein4969 6 років тому

      well said

    • @PieInTheSky9
      @PieInTheSky9 5 років тому +4

      Cho is overrated imo, Kate is way more musical

  • @안창살
    @안창살 5 років тому +16

    이곡은 전세계 다 털어도 리우처럼 칠수있는사람 없을듯

    • @Vega2525
      @Vega2525 5 років тому

      학교에서 교수님께 렛슨 받을 때 딱 그 분위기로 치니 넘나 좋으네요(곡 분위기만요ㅎㅎ)조성진은 뭔가 우리 배울때와는 또 다른 분위기로 치더라구요. 케이트 휠링이 저도 좋아요❤💛💜

    • @MagicTemplar
      @MagicTemplar 3 роки тому

      터치가 뭉게지는거 하나없이 깔끔하네요. 판타지 원탑을 찾아서 기쁩니다

  • @bomikim798
    @bomikim798 3 роки тому +4

    I just supposed to Ovations to her brilliant chopin interpretation.

  • @Fritz_Maisenbacher
    @Fritz_Maisenbacher 2 місяці тому +2

    10:13 the incredible purity by the touch of the right hand
    (only a women can achieve this)

  • @isaksigurdssnnhungnes624
    @isaksigurdssnnhungnes624 5 років тому +3

    Chorale begins at 7:48

  • @hernciszfilm
    @hernciszfilm 9 років тому +7

    Wspaniałe wykonanie!

  • @jenskluge7188
    @jenskluge7188 2 роки тому +4

    That's another inspiring performance! Btw I found that despite the bombastic wartime battle sound effects it's one of the easier pieces, not nearly as hard to play as Chopin's sonatas. In fact, I would encourage everyone to have a go at this who is interested, if you only try seriously you will find out that the outcome is beautiful and unique in its own way and different from the interpretation of anyone else.

    • @clleung8007
      @clleung8007 2 роки тому +1

      But for those who want to try this, keep in mind that this piece is still difficult. More difficult than fantasy impromptu, about the same difficulty as ballade no.3.

  • @gabormezofi6667
    @gabormezofi6667 2 роки тому +5

    More than fantastic ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @jbingo1
    @jbingo1 8 років тому +9

    Amazing

  • @themoroccanpianist8953
    @themoroccanpianist8953 4 роки тому +4

    what an ending !

  • @helenavondrakenstein4969
    @helenavondrakenstein4969 6 років тому +10

    A poetess wandering thru the keys like in the tall summer grass......

  • @pauld8156
    @pauld8156 7 років тому +3

    She is madness made great.

  • @isaksigurdssnnhungnes624
    @isaksigurdssnnhungnes624 5 років тому +8

    7:49 Chorale

  • @alexandrebasto8491
    @alexandrebasto8491 8 років тому +5

    the best,

  • @humanyou7233
    @humanyou7233 4 роки тому +4

    many good feeling from your touching
    anyway it's body or spirit,
    you repairouor mind from corona19.
    thank you so much
    we pray for the colona19friend Att listening , I got from new power new leaves from brench of the tree in the good morning
    see and listen
    The bird fly on the sky rhe plant on the earth
    thank you so much Kate liu

  • @DarwinTongYuHim._wXz_
    @DarwinTongYuHim._wXz_ 6 років тому +4

    Bravo!

  • @user-bo8vq6oj3e
    @user-bo8vq6oj3e Рік тому +2

    와 ..

  • @geni_us
    @geni_us 6 років тому +5

    12:15~ goodddddd

  • @dd-bw9pk
    @dd-bw9pk 4 роки тому +4

    미스가 좀 있지만 넘아름답다 ㅜ

  • @humanyou7233
    @humanyou7233 4 роки тому +1

    I am very proud kate riuu
    Iam many suffered who sicked in corona19 in the world
    I don't reason why we suffered new birus spread all over the world d a by dayy more sick friend .add the number
    anotherland many new friend come cot that makes more reduce sicked
    oh lord

  • @pauld8156
    @pauld8156 7 років тому +9

    Is ok that I am clapping at my computer for Kate liu.

  • @tomerpianist
    @tomerpianist 7 років тому +18

    so much better than cho in my opinion

  • @pablorubin9638
    @pablorubin9638 7 років тому +4

    is very difficult

    • @堀井彰人
      @堀井彰人 6 років тому +2

      I understand what you mean