I took subs for 16 years. I tapered off last November. I really dodged a bullet. Iihaven't been arrested, my credit score is now 821. 4 more years and I'll be retired. I'm free.
@rick p, you’re the only person I’ve ever seen or heard of that’s admitted long term use. I’m quite up there too. Wish I could talk to somebody like you.
@@rickp3753Hey Rick! Was Suboxone an effective treatment for you over those 16 years? Did you just feel comfortable enough to quit after that time? Thanks!
Uuh, coming from a 12 year addict who got clean in 2016, who cares if you're not considered clean and sober on Subs. The fact of the matter is, is that you're an addict. The drugs you were doing were going to kill you. Suboxone will not. The whole point of an addict being on Suboxone is to quit taking other opiates and to be able to live a happy, manageable life. It doesn't matter if you're on subs for a month or for the rest of your life. You're an addict, plain and simple. At least being addicted to Suboxone are going to survive being an addict, be able to live a normal, healthy, happy life.
As someone who was on subs for a while, always felt like I was cheating. And i swear people can sense it. People that knew me before the drugs just know that I’m not 100% clean.
Have you ever tried detoxing in a hospital for alcohol? I know it can be very dangerous and even life threatening,if your consumption is abundant and is an everyday occurrence if you just try to stop cold turkey but they do have a medicine that helps with the cravings and withdrawals of the alcohol! God bless you and I pray you find peace and healing in your life! #NeverGiveUp
@JenkemOD not anymore. Almost all the way weaned off. Went from 24mgs a day down to 2mg a day and soon to be off that too. Hate all you want satan, Jesus saved this sinner and praise God im free
@@ErikWoods-v1j that’s awesome!!! Screw what everyone else says to you!!! “Oh but you’re still addicted” blah blah blah. I’m just now starting my Suboxone. Reading comments like yours lifts my spirits even higher. I posted my comment to the video too, I consider not spending $7000 or more a month sober. &they consider taking any other opioid during treatment a relapse. So yes… suboxone is Sobriety. Don’t know if you’re a man or a woman! But you go buddy!!! 🙂
@@ErikWoods-v1j awesome!!! I love testimonys like this! U got this, put your fear and your doubts in Jesus's hand. Mat God bless you and your loved ones. So Sub is used to help people quit real stuff ? Is sub hard to get off? Is it as Bad as the Fent****l things that everyone keeps talking?
I know personally several hundred peoples who’s life this med saved. If anyone is watching this and reading wondering if it works it will work and free you from your chains.
@@luismagana9784 just be honest with them they don’t care and no worry of police n stuff just come clean and devote yourself to doing this the first few weeks you will have fun cause the freedom and then you’ll learn to work with yourself and loose the bad groups of people and move on and enjoy your life as you once was. I did it anyone can . Good luck
@@TalksWithRyan thank you Ryan. Z. I appreciate the kind words… it’s almost 3 am here and it’s my first sober night man I knew it was going to be hard. . Z. Thank you Ryan
im currently in the process of trying to get suboxone, question, what does it feel like? does it take long to kick in? im also struggling with kratom abuse specifically OPMS Black. i cant go a day without the body aches kill me.
@@AlmightyLoud im just use suboxone only 2 week..just using using 2mg then then after 2 week im cut slow2 suboxone from 2mg - 1mg and cut more until 0.25mg after 0.025 im stop using suboxone
@@AlmightyLoudit kicks in pretty fast. I dunno what opiates ur trying to recover from, but u need to have not used for about a day before taking suboxone since it has some naxolone in it as well. I obviously as an addict did not take that advice and it put me into immeidate withdrawls, but the within about an hour so they went a way. Soboxone dowant rwally get u high, but it takes away all the major withdrawls and u can pretty much take a couple days get a good measure of what u need ur beginning dose to be and ur good to go. It saved my life and the amount of hate it gets from people is crazy. Ya obviously no one wants to take something long term, but at this point i dont understand why anyone would pressure someone to get off of it just cus they seem to think its just another addiction. Its like would u tell a diabetic relative to stop taking insulan since they dont actually need it. They just need to fix their diet and exercise more lol.
@@AlmightyLoud your first year of taking it you get high AF but eventually when your body gets used to it you will totally not feel anything. Now I'm talking about if you take 8 mg or more. And please never take suboxone if you're not already addicted to opiates. Buprenorphine is the second most powerful opiate other than fentanyl
According to the law I was sober when the police were testing for DUI (drive under the influence). I passed the horizontal gaze plus behavior mode to be released from the police station and go my way.
That’s great. Do you really want to be on the Subs for the rest of ur life tho?? I’ve been on them for like 4 years now and the side effects are horrible. I dunno. Some people who are/were into HEAVY heroin or other opiate use might just be better off taking it forever, but the side effects mess with me man. They were GREAT for the first year or 2, but now I just feel like a zombie.
@@coryjohnson2486 bro it's the same for me I been in them for 7 years and the first 2 where great now they just keep me from being sick for from not taking them and hell no I part every day I wasn't on them. I only take 2mgs a day now I break up one pill into 4 quarters. And yeah when I was taking the Suboxone strips for 1 year straight they f***** my teeth up I have four teeth that are rotted in the back of my mouth because of Suboxone so yeah I have a love-hate relationship with this s*** and yeah I feel like a slave to this medication but if I didn't have it I probably would start getting cravings again
I dont even care whether i am considered sober by others. Im all about quality of life. Nearly 4 years ago I would use rain puddle water to shoot up if it were the only thing available and that wasnt even my lowest bottom. I tried to get clean dozens and dozens of times on every method but suboxone. Never lasted 2 weeks. I finally tried suboxone and here i am 4 years later, feeling like my "old self" from before i ever used. People dont even believe me when i tell them what i did. Yeah, ive been driven out of meetings and called a fraud. Been told ive deluded myself and im still in active addiction. Really? I've got a stable job, decent health, trust of my family, a car, a roof, motivation to pursue my passions, and a serene mind that all say otherwise. Im not going to change something that works to fit inside someone else's narrow mind. Not when the stakes are life and death.
I’m glad to hear this and the same from other people, some of whom are long term opiate addicts and some who are unfortunate new opiate addicts (such as myself). I can personally testify to the fact that Suboxone has given me my life back. I can do everything I used to be completely unable to when hooked on fent. I’ve regained my sense of physical and mental well being, I’m running and swimming and lifting weights again, I sleep normally, and most importantly, it removed the sheer agony of being dope sick, something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. I never considered myself addicted to anything, but my unfortunate adoption of opiate use has made me realize that I am one, and I’ve made peace with that. One valuable thing I’ve gained from my journey is empathy for all people struggling with opiate addiction. I used to wonder why people would utterly decimate their lives to the point of homelessness, overdose, and death. I recreationally dabbled with various things and I am here to preach to anyone who will listen that opiates are the very drug which will cause you to lose everything. Growing up in the Reagan years, I thought the drug most likely to do that was cocaine, and maybe cocaine can derail anyone who becomes addicted, but opiates are an equal opportunity life destroyer. It affects every possible segment of society, and can drive the most accomplished, successful, and educated person to the brink of total destruction just as easily as someone who was raised in poverty and surrounded by illicit drug use, and it does. Rich or poor, college educated or not, opiates affect every segment of society. I hate our puritanical recovery culture which judges someone who recovers with Suboxone so harshly even when that person has clearly regained their former functionality in every way: they aren’t lying or stealing, losing jobs, homes, friends, or family, all because Suboxone has saved them. Why must one be judged for a prescription medicine which helps them regain normalcy? Do I need to seek removing Suboxone use from my life when it literally saved it because some 12 stepper lays a guilt trip on me? Do diabetics who rely on insulin to survive need to wean themselves off of that? No doctor would advise that and Suboxone users should be treated the same way in my opinion.
Do the Subs give you a buzz at all?? They gave me a nice little energy buzz the first year or so I was on them and lifted my mood a LOT. After being on them 3-4 years, it’s nothing but nasty side effects.
Same here with being on Suboxone. No arrests, losing jobs, phones, stealing,etc... I'm recovering from a state of hell from the "H" and I believe as long as im not going back to old habits that I'm in recovery
@@jaynaysay1273 sorry I made a mistake. It's been ELEVEN months since I tapered off. November 4th will be one YEAR off Suboxone and everything else. It helped save my life, but I didn't need it anymore. I'm physically stronger than I've felt in years. Emotionally and mentally I've escaped without a scratch. Thank God I'm free!
Its a lot better than living that junkie lifestyle for sure, but dont get it twisted. You will withdrawal for 2 to 3 weeks when you stop taking buprenorphine. The detox isnt as intense as short acting opioids, but the duration of withdrawal is brutal.
From what I hear it's really not that hard, depending ofc on the amount you take.. But I know it's a lot easier than Methadon, that's the worst thing to come off from what i hear, then we're at least talking about months indeed, maybe even years. Suboxone is lighter & easier to get off from, like Kratom is too, maybe a little harder than Kratom, but not extreme.
@@bekeneel hi friend the truth is ALL synthetic opiates are. Pain in ass to get off. As suboxone and even methadone have a half life that last all the love long day. Making it very tricky and sticky in your system. It can be done with taper and patience
@@bekeneelIt's not too hard! I took 8mg films for 16 years. I tapered off slowly 11 months ago. Insomnia was challenging, but I was NEVER DOPESICK. Don't listen to some of these yahoos. They have no experience. Only an opinion😂
@@bekeneelno no… it is DEFINITELY hard to get off Subs. The only way you can get off them with minimal withdrawals is if you do a slow taper… and it’s difficult to do because you have to be very disciplined and strict the entire time.
No, im bot sober. More so than 2 weeks ago when i was still on methadone but im not sober. I feel way better and have more energy. My bones just hurt but easing off. But sober means intoxicating drug free.
Suboxone saved my life ❤ if it wasn’t for the stigma - I would’ve gotten sober and on suboxone years sooner and saved myself a lot of unnecessary pain and agony
Yes you are still an addict and not fully sober if you are on Suboxone. And I'm tired of hearing doctor say you cannot get addicted to Suboxone! Suboxone withdrawal is worse than herion. Smh i wish i would have never got on this shit i cant wait to get off. Now instead of just spending money on the streets I'm paying a doctor a $180/month just for his signature saying that I can have the prescription Plus close to $600 in total for all the strips smh
Addiction and dependence are different. Theres a goal to get off of opiates completely. Subs are a tool to get to that goal. I will be off Suboxone in 6 months after 3 years of heroin and fent addiction. You can tapper off any opiate but who really has power to use less and less fent for sobriety. Suboxone helped me.
I hate to say this cus i hope u get better, but it almost sounds like ur trying to justify going back to opiates. I get the frustration, but u should maybe look at other drs near ypu if they are charging that much. Hopefully it works out for u
Dang that is a lot of money, i pay a $10 copay for my script and then another $10 copay for my medicine. Even when i didnt have insurace it wasnt that much. I paid 250 for the doctor visit and 60 bucks for 90 a month. Your getting screwed my friend.
You’re exactly right. The people who say they feel amazing now and everything is fantastic have NOT been on the subs long enough to feel the real side effects from them. For the first year or so on them, I felt GREAT- it lifted my mood and made me happy… because I’m pretty sure I was getting a buzz from the Subs!! If you’re on Subs long-term, you eventually just feel like a zombie and get nothing but NASTY side effects. I don’t care what anybody says. It’s a GREAT treatment for SHORT TERM to get off opiates… but it’s NOT healthy to take for life.
Everyone has their opinion. Suboxone is sobriety for LOTS of people that try it. If you haven’t taken a street opioid, spend $7000 that month, or overdosed… then I believe you have the ball in your court. I believe you consider yourself sober. When you’re on suboxone, they consider taking any other opioid during treatment a relapse. So yes, Suboxone is Sobriety and piece of mind for most.
I know it does, but if you can get a normal life back under the care of a physician, get your family back, get off the street, stop spending every cent you have on pills, get a job, and start being f*****g human again,…. What do you call it?
@@brettsharpe7305lol exactly. Subs give most people a GREAT little energy buzz. They think they’re sober because they only have to take a small amount once or twice a day, but it has has a super long half-life. It gives the ILLUSION of being clean because you don’t have to fiend for it every couple hours and spend all your money on them. I’m NOT saying that Subs are horrible for everyone. It really does help big-time opiate addicts get their life together… but to act like Subs aren’t a drug themself is a lie. I know because I’m on them 😂. That little energy buzz u get from subs eventually goes away eventually.
@@Skypvblonah bro if u barely used yeah but if u been smoking for more than a year then u will have to wait at least 4 days n fent 5 or 6 days before u take subs or you’ll go thru percipated withdrawl
Ok so after reading some of the comments, I need clarification . So a person who takes a medication to help control their disease is a bad person and should be made to feel bad for chosing to take meds?
@@brettsharpe7305 How so? Bc it blocks your receptors? You aren't high on it.. I'm assuming you've never in your life taken it while dependent on opiates? Having to taper off of it isn't a bad thing. You have to do that with anti-depressants too. So are they not"sober" Lmao
TRUE DR TRADING ONE DRUG FOR ANOTHER! I TOOK THIS 20 YRS NOW !! I WANT OFF IT ASAP! ANY SUGGESTIONS GO HELP ME ? IM ON 14MG A DAY ! TY GOD BLESS YOU DR❤
This doctor works for Suboxen. Almost every video he makes ties in to him pitching this- it is gross. Subs are almost inpossible to get off. 1000x harder to get off then heroine.
Cutting back slowly is what general consensus is so I’ve found from professionals with least side affects and easiest on your mind and body and I see you posted 9 months ago and hope you’re Dr has helped wean you down slowly to prepare you for without and best wishes on your journey 🙏😊
I really want to get off suboxone. It helped me alot. Havnt touched opioids or any kind of drug or med sense being on suboxone. However. I feel like iv gotten what i need to from suboxone. Getting off of them though is basically the exact withdrawal as opioids. Which sucks. I feel like it lasts way longer too
so your not sober. You can't be taking something to replace what took before and say your sober. It's like if I quit smoking and vaping and was chewing nicorette instead.
You are sober though. It doesn’t get you high, it just blocks withdraw symptoms from taking fetty, heroin, pain pills, etc. I would consider you sober for sure since it has no effect on your cognitive function or anything like that.
Can you get high on Suboxone? I've never gotten high and I started on a high dose in the beginning. It's a tool to get sober. So you can feel normal and not be panicking because your dope sick. You have the ability to work on getting off dope and then Suboxone. Like to stop smoking and risking lung deterioration so you would switch to nicorette.
@@djaaron2426 I don't think so, I never tried it so I can't say. I'm lucky as a former polydrug user that I was never addicted to anything or did anything hard. I'm just saying that in my honest opinion sobriety to me means not taking anything regardless of if it gets you high. I guess subjective in what you consider sobriety to be. Hopefully the therapy works for you and one day you can stop taking that too. I quit doing all drugs a few years ago and hanging around with people who are into that, even quit smoking weed. I'm still working on alcohol and nicotine but it's tough. The only thing I would exclude from my definition of real sobriety would be mushrooms once every few years because they are natural and really help with mental health.
I love when doctors speak on this issue when they have no idea what the hell they’re talking about. They’ve never been through it themselves, so what the hell do they know about it. Being on Suboxone is the same shit as taking the pills every single day. You are physically dependent upon this drug. If you don’t take it, you get sick just as if you weren’t taking the pills that you want this work. It is true you trade one addiction for the other. It’s the same goddamn thing. I know this because I am stuck on it! And if I don’t have enough, I physically get sick just like when I was doing pills. And if I don’t take it on time, I start going through with drawls just as if I was withdrawing from the pills. It’s the same goddamn thing same exact symptoms same exact feeling same exact shit going through my head.
Maybe your dose isn't high enough for maintenance. I personally don't get a high feeling from it like you would with methadone but everyone is different. I can also go a day or two before feeling sick. So I'm able to have some on standby in case I can't make it to dose.
One that will kill you for one that won't sounds better than death. Had my brother listened he would still be alive today. Suboxone has saved millions of lives
Thank you!! Sober for almost 2 years. Suboxone was my bridge across the pit that I needed to cross to get to the other side where I now enjoy sobriety. If you work for it and truly have psychological sobriety then Suboxone is NOT hard you get off of. You just have to taper off, usually with a doctor's help, to avoid physical withdrawals. It's only hard up get off of if you're substituting it for working a program and working on yourself.
You either are an addict who don't want to get clean or you have never experienced addiction either yourself or close family or friend. Taking medication for a disease is not a bad thing. Are you going to make a diabetic feel bad for taking medication to help control his/her disease? Bet you wouldn't. A disease is a disease regardless. STOP MAKING PEOPLE FEEL GUILTY OR FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BAD FOR TAKING A MEDICATION THAT HELPS CONTROL THEIR DISEASE.
I took subs for 16 years. I tapered off last November. I really dodged a bullet. Iihaven't been arrested, my credit score is now 821. 4 more years and I'll be retired. I'm free.
@rick p, you’re the only person I’ve ever seen or heard of that’s admitted long term use. I’m quite up there too. Wish I could talk to somebody like you.
@@dearestdennis I'm here for ya. People exaggerate the symptoms. The insomnia was challenging. Are you thinking about tapering off?
@@rickp3753does subs help get rid of brain fog and detachment? I have subs but it’s so hard going 3 days to take them.
@@rickp3753Hey Rick! Was Suboxone an effective treatment for you over those 16 years? Did you just feel comfortable enough to quit after that time? Thanks!
@@dearestdennisbeen on i10 yearsm
Uuh, coming from a 12 year addict who got clean in 2016, who cares if you're not considered clean and sober on Subs. The fact of the matter is, is that you're an addict. The drugs you were doing were going to kill you. Suboxone will not. The whole point of an addict being on Suboxone is to quit taking other opiates and to be able to live a happy, manageable life. It doesn't matter if you're on subs for a month or for the rest of your life. You're an addict, plain and simple. At least being addicted to Suboxone are going to survive being an addict, be able to live a normal, healthy, happy life.
Exactly
All true except lots of folks lose their liver or kidneys to years of suboxone so you can’t really say living a healthy life.
@@jakepadgett5569 But again, they would much faster lose organs when being on oxy or other shit as well
Thank you👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
As someone who was on subs for a while, always felt like I was cheating. And i swear people can sense it. People that knew me before the drugs just know that I’m not 100% clean.
I finally got sober from opioids but picked up alcohol 🤦🏽♀️ I’m trying I really Im 🥹
Same, Alcohol can be a messy drug sometimes.
Done the same too and then back to drugs so I went back to subs I knew what was coming .
Have you ever tried detoxing in a hospital for alcohol? I know it can be very dangerous and even life threatening,if your consumption is abundant and is an everyday occurrence if you just try to stop cold turkey but they do have a medicine that helps with the cravings and withdrawals of the alcohol! God bless you and I pray you find peace and healing in your life! #NeverGiveUp
Wishing you all the strength & happiness
Hope you are doing well today
Always been an alcoholic since 19 but functional unt
I agree I'm on suboxone and I can attest that it is helping me heal in all these areas
Me too brother
@JenkemOD not anymore. Almost all the way weaned off. Went from 24mgs a day down to 2mg a day and soon to be off that too. Hate all you want satan, Jesus saved this sinner and praise God im free
@@ErikWoods-v1jI just started my taper process
@@ErikWoods-v1j that’s awesome!!! Screw what everyone else says to you!!! “Oh but you’re still addicted” blah blah blah. I’m just now starting my Suboxone. Reading comments like yours lifts my spirits even higher. I posted my comment to the video too, I consider not spending $7000 or more a month sober. &they consider taking any other opioid during treatment a relapse. So yes… suboxone is Sobriety. Don’t know if you’re a man or a woman! But you go buddy!!! 🙂
@@ErikWoods-v1j awesome!!! I love testimonys like this! U got this, put your fear and your doubts in Jesus's hand. Mat God bless you and your loved ones.
So Sub is used to help people quit real stuff ? Is sub hard to get off? Is it as Bad as the Fent****l things that everyone keeps talking?
I know personally several hundred peoples who’s life this med saved. If anyone is watching this and reading wondering if it works it will work and free you from your chains.
I hope so I’m seeing a doctor to tomorrow
@@luismagana9784 just be honest with them they don’t care and no worry of police n stuff just come clean and devote yourself to doing this the first few weeks you will have fun cause the freedom and then you’ll learn to work with yourself and loose the bad groups of people and move on and enjoy your life as you once was. I did it anyone can . Good luck
@@TalksWithRyan thank you Ryan. Z. I appreciate the kind words… it’s almost 3 am here and it’s my first sober night man I knew it was going to be hard. . Z. Thank you Ryan
@@luismagana9784 How did it go? I'm on suboxones myself. I been sober for a couple of months now.
@@luismagana9784 hope you’re doing better bro ❤
Im sober using suboxone to stop kratom..now im clean suboxone and kratom...thank suboxone help me sober all drug
im currently in the process of trying to get suboxone, question, what does it feel like? does it take long to kick in? im also struggling with kratom abuse specifically OPMS Black. i cant go a day without the body aches kill me.
also congrats on getting help.
@@AlmightyLoud im just use suboxone only 2 week..just using using 2mg then then after 2 week im cut slow2 suboxone from 2mg - 1mg and cut more until 0.25mg after 0.025 im stop using suboxone
@@AlmightyLoudit kicks in pretty fast. I dunno what opiates ur trying to recover from, but u need to have not used for about a day before taking suboxone since it has some naxolone in it as well. I obviously as an addict did not take that advice and it put me into immeidate withdrawls, but the within about an hour so they went a way. Soboxone dowant rwally get u high, but it takes away all the major withdrawls and u can pretty much take a couple days get a good measure of what u need ur beginning dose to be and ur good to go. It saved my life and the amount of hate it gets from people is crazy. Ya obviously no one wants to take something long term, but at this point i dont understand why anyone would pressure someone to get off of it just cus they seem to think its just another addiction. Its like would u tell a diabetic relative to stop taking insulan since they dont actually need it. They just need to fix their diet and exercise more lol.
@@AlmightyLoud your first year of taking it you get high AF but eventually when your body gets used to it you will totally not feel anything. Now I'm talking about if you take 8 mg or more. And please never take suboxone if you're not already addicted to opiates. Buprenorphine is the second most powerful opiate other than fentanyl
According to the law I was sober when the police were testing for DUI (drive under the influence). I passed the horizontal gaze plus behavior mode to be released from the police station and go my way.
Before Suboxone sleeping on couches after Suboxone makes $100,000 a year owns his own business
That’s great. Do you really want to be on the Subs for the rest of ur life tho?? I’ve been on them for like 4 years now and the side effects are horrible.
I dunno. Some people who are/were into HEAVY heroin or other opiate use might just be better off taking it forever, but the side effects mess with me man. They were GREAT for the first year or 2, but now I just feel like a zombie.
@@coryjohnson2486 bro it's the same for me I been in them for 7 years and the first 2 where great now they just keep me from being sick for from not taking them and hell no I part every day I wasn't on them. I only take 2mgs a day now I break up one pill into 4 quarters. And yeah when I was taking the Suboxone strips for 1 year straight they f***** my teeth up I have four teeth that are rotted in the back of my mouth because of Suboxone so yeah I have a love-hate relationship with this s*** and yeah I feel like a slave to this medication but if I didn't have it I probably would start getting cravings again
I dont even care whether i am considered sober by others. Im all about quality of life. Nearly 4 years ago I would use rain puddle water to shoot up if it were the only thing available and that wasnt even my lowest bottom. I tried to get clean dozens and dozens of times on every method but suboxone. Never lasted 2 weeks. I finally tried suboxone and here i am 4 years later, feeling like my "old self" from before i ever used. People dont even believe me when i tell them what i did. Yeah, ive been driven out of meetings and called a fraud. Been told ive deluded myself and im still in active addiction. Really? I've got a stable job, decent health, trust of my family, a car, a roof, motivation to pursue my passions, and a serene mind that all say otherwise. Im not going to change something that works to fit inside someone else's narrow mind. Not when the stakes are life and death.
Glad to hear it. Keep it up
I’m glad to hear this and the same from other people, some of whom are long term opiate addicts and some who are unfortunate new opiate addicts (such as myself). I can personally testify to the fact that Suboxone has given me my life back. I can do everything I used to be completely unable to when hooked on fent. I’ve regained my sense of physical and mental well being, I’m running and swimming and lifting weights again, I sleep normally, and most importantly, it removed the sheer agony of being dope sick, something I wouldn’t wish on my worst enemy. I never considered myself addicted to anything, but my unfortunate adoption of opiate use has made me realize that I am one, and I’ve made peace with that. One valuable thing I’ve gained from my journey is empathy for all people struggling with opiate addiction. I used to wonder why people would utterly decimate their lives to the point of homelessness, overdose, and death. I recreationally dabbled with various things and I am here to preach to anyone who will listen that opiates are the very drug which will cause you to lose everything. Growing up in the Reagan years, I thought the drug most likely to do that was cocaine, and maybe cocaine can derail anyone who becomes addicted, but opiates are an equal opportunity life destroyer. It affects every possible segment of society, and can drive the most accomplished, successful, and educated person to the brink of total destruction just as easily as someone who was raised in poverty and surrounded by illicit drug use, and it does. Rich or poor, college educated or not, opiates affect every segment of society. I hate our puritanical recovery culture which judges someone who recovers with Suboxone so harshly even when that person has clearly regained their former functionality in every way: they aren’t lying or stealing, losing jobs, homes, friends, or family, all because Suboxone has saved them. Why must one be judged for a prescription medicine which helps them regain normalcy? Do I need to seek removing Suboxone use from my life when it literally saved it because some 12 stepper lays a guilt trip on me? Do diabetics who rely on insulin to survive need to wean themselves off of that? No doctor would advise that and Suboxone users should be treated the same way in my opinion.
Do the Subs give you a buzz at all?? They gave me a nice little energy buzz the first year or so I was on them and lifted my mood a LOT. After being on them 3-4 years, it’s nothing but nasty side effects.
Same here with being on Suboxone. No arrests, losing jobs, phones, stealing,etc... I'm recovering from a state of hell from the "H" and I believe as long as im not going back to old habits that I'm in recovery
Really well said thx
And suboxone said “Wahahaha, You’re not going anywhere, you’re my b!+
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If you ever actually heard dr b he says that it’s better than overdosing and dying of fentanyl. Fuck it if it’s the only option out of the madness
I took it for 16 years and tapered off 10 months ago. Bitch my ass
YESSSS. Was put on at 18, now 28 and still trying to come off. Was never earned about how hard it is to escape!
@@jaynaysay1273 sorry I made a mistake. It's been ELEVEN months since I tapered off. November 4th will be one YEAR off Suboxone and everything else. It helped save my life, but I didn't need it anymore. I'm physically stronger than I've felt in years. Emotionally and mentally I've escaped without a scratch. Thank God I'm free!
Glad you explained this for everyone Dr B
If you are on MAT you are still using!
Its a lot better than living that junkie lifestyle for sure, but dont get it twisted. You will withdrawal for 2 to 3 weeks when you stop taking buprenorphine. The detox isnt as intense as short acting opioids, but the duration of withdrawal is brutal.
2-6months
But long term suboxone requires long term
Detox. Depending on dosage a taper off suboxone can be 6++ months.
From what I hear it's really not that hard, depending ofc on the amount you take.. But I know it's a lot easier than Methadon, that's the worst thing to come off from what i hear, then we're at least talking about months indeed, maybe even years. Suboxone is lighter & easier to get off from, like Kratom is too, maybe a little harder than Kratom, but not extreme.
@@bekeneel hi friend the truth is ALL synthetic opiates are. Pain in ass to get off. As suboxone and even methadone have a half life that last all the love long day. Making it very tricky and sticky in your system. It can be done with taper and patience
@@bekeneelIt's not too hard! I took 8mg films for 16 years. I tapered off slowly 11 months ago. Insomnia was challenging, but I was NEVER DOPESICK. Don't listen to some of these yahoos. They have no experience. Only an opinion😂
@@bekeneelno no… it is DEFINITELY hard to get off Subs. The only way you can get off them with minimal withdrawals is if you do a slow taper… and it’s difficult to do because you have to be very disciplined and strict the entire time.
I wish you weren’t so far away I would love to have you as my Dr!!!
No, im bot sober. More so than 2 weeks ago when i was still on methadone but im not sober. I feel way better and have more energy. My bones just hurt but easing off. But sober means intoxicating drug free.
Suboxone saved my life ❤ if it wasn’t for the stigma - I would’ve gotten sober and on suboxone years sooner and saved myself a lot of unnecessary pain and agony
Yes you are still an addict and not fully sober if you are on Suboxone. And I'm tired of hearing doctor say you cannot get addicted to Suboxone! Suboxone withdrawal is worse than herion. Smh i wish i would have never got on this shit i cant wait to get off. Now instead of just spending money on the streets I'm paying a doctor a $180/month just for his signature saying that I can have the prescription Plus close to $600 in total for all the strips smh
Addiction and dependence are different. Theres a goal to get off of opiates completely. Subs are a tool to get to that goal. I will be off Suboxone in 6 months after 3 years of heroin and fent addiction. You can tapper off any opiate but who really has power to use less and less fent for sobriety. Suboxone helped me.
I hate to say this cus i hope u get better, but it almost sounds like ur trying to justify going back to opiates. I get the frustration, but u should maybe look at other drs near ypu if they are charging that much. Hopefully it works out for u
Dang that is a lot of money, i pay a $10 copay for my script and then another $10 copay for my medicine. Even when i didnt have insurace it wasnt that much. I paid 250 for the doctor visit and 60 bucks for 90 a month. Your getting screwed my friend.
You’re exactly right. The people who say they feel amazing now and everything is fantastic have NOT been on the subs long enough to feel the real side effects from them. For the first year or so on them, I felt GREAT- it lifted my mood and made me happy… because I’m pretty sure I was getting a buzz from the Subs!!
If you’re on Subs long-term, you eventually just feel like a zombie and get nothing but NASTY side effects. I don’t care what anybody says. It’s a GREAT treatment for SHORT TERM to get off opiates… but it’s NOT healthy to take for life.
Subs isn't a addiction I don't take it because I enjoy it because I get zero enjoyment from taking it
Everyone has their opinion. Suboxone is sobriety for LOTS of people that try it. If you haven’t taken a street opioid, spend $7000 that month, or overdosed… then I believe you have the ball in your court. I believe you consider yourself sober. When you’re on suboxone, they consider taking any other opioid during treatment a relapse. So yes, Suboxone is Sobriety and piece of mind for most.
No its not sobriety, that shit makes you feel good as hell.
@@brettsharpe7305 Maybe if you don't take opiates.. to those of us dependent on large amounts it doesn't do ANYTHING except block receptors.
I know it does, but if you can get a normal life back under the care of a physician, get your family back, get off the street, stop spending every cent you have on pills, get a job, and start being f*****g human again,…. What do you call it?
@@brettsharpe7305lol exactly. Subs give most people a GREAT little energy buzz. They think they’re sober because they only have to take a small amount once or twice a day, but it has has a super long half-life. It gives the ILLUSION of being clean because you don’t have to fiend for it every couple hours and spend all your money on them.
I’m NOT saying that Subs are horrible for everyone. It really does help big-time opiate addicts get their life together… but to act like Subs aren’t a drug themself is a lie. I know because I’m on them 😂. That little energy buzz u get from subs eventually goes away eventually.
Just took my sub after 11 days of detox definitely helps tf
U can take it 2 days after u use
And it takes all your symptoms away immediately
@@Skypvblonah bro if u barely used yeah but if u been smoking for more than a year then u will have to wait at least 4 days n fent 5 or 6 days before u take subs or you’ll go thru percipated withdrawl
If you got thru 11 days bro don’t take suboxone just muscle through it you’ll regret that
Thank you for this .. 😢 .. hardest thing to overcome ..
Ok so after reading some of the comments, I need clarification .
So a person who takes a medication to help control their disease is a bad person and should be made to feel bad for chosing to take meds?
Suboxsone is a drug and switching one addiction/ crutch for another
Clean from illicit drugs
My brothers been HOOKED on suboxone for 7 years. He was getting back to normal before he started taking this. At least you get paid right doc.
So how is it affecting his life negatively?
Have you ever thought maybe it’s your brother ? I’ve had to come to that realization about people I love .
The medicine works if the person wants to stay sober. Period!!!
@@DTA-me3kvyou’re not sober if you’re taking it though…
@@brettsharpe7305 How so? Bc it blocks your receptors? You aren't high on it.. I'm assuming you've never in your life taken it while dependent on opiates? Having to taper off of it isn't a bad thing. You have to do that with anti-depressants too. So are they not"sober" Lmao
Dont go to doctor A, go to doctor A
So, what's the answer?
This!!! 🫶🏽
thanks for what you do. recovering addict myself
Soooooo….?
TRUE DR TRADING ONE DRUG FOR ANOTHER! I TOOK THIS 20 YRS NOW !! I WANT OFF IT ASAP! ANY SUGGESTIONS GO HELP ME ? IM ON 14MG A DAY ! TY GOD BLESS YOU DR❤
If you’ve been on 14 mg daily for 20 years that’s to much I’m on 8 mg daily for 8 years now I was a daily heroin user
This doctor works for Suboxen. Almost every video he makes ties in to him pitching this- it is gross. Subs are almost inpossible to get off. 1000x harder to get off then heroine.
Cutting back slowly is what general consensus is so I’ve found from professionals with least side affects and easiest on your mind and body and I see you posted 9 months ago and hope you’re Dr has helped wean you down slowly to prepare you for without and best wishes on your journey 🙏😊
I really want to get off suboxone. It helped me alot. Havnt touched opioids or any kind of drug or med sense being on suboxone. However. I feel like iv gotten what i need to from suboxone. Getting off of them though is basically the exact withdrawal as opioids. Which sucks. I feel like it lasts way longer too
Do you press your tongue down on the medication?
I feel hopeless from this medicine 8 mths on it. thank god for mondafil my doctor gave this to me
DR. B Is there any place you can be diagnosed with FASD?
Thank you Dr.B for explaining❤
I'm on Suboxone
eso mero G preach about that shit dawg💯💯, them pills n powder ain’t nothing to mess w, if it ain’t no natural herb don’t touch it🗣️
The only natural herb u get is the one u grow yourself cuz if u think the clinic selling natural herb ur wrong
But what if I started on suboxone? Never touched a pain pill in my life.
That means you’re just dependent on Suboxone just like any other recovering addict is. And it’s really hard to get off. As I’m sure you know by now.
What a rockstarr...😊
False
Thank you dr
Love this guy!
so your not sober. You can't be taking something to replace what took before and say your sober. It's like if I quit smoking and vaping and was chewing nicorette instead.
You are sober though. It doesn’t get you high, it just blocks withdraw symptoms from taking fetty, heroin, pain pills, etc. I would consider you sober for sure since it has no effect on your cognitive function or anything like that.
Can you get high on Suboxone? I've never gotten high and I started on a high dose in the beginning. It's a tool to get sober. So you can feel normal and not be panicking because your dope sick. You have the ability to work on getting off dope and then Suboxone. Like to stop smoking and risking lung deterioration so you would switch to nicorette.
@@djaaron2426 I don't think so, I never tried it so I can't say. I'm lucky as a former polydrug user that I was never addicted to anything or did anything hard. I'm just saying that in my honest opinion sobriety to me means not taking anything regardless of if it gets you high. I guess subjective in what you consider sobriety to be. Hopefully the therapy works for you and one day you can stop taking that too. I quit doing all drugs a few years ago and hanging around with people who are into that, even quit smoking weed. I'm still working on alcohol and nicotine but it's tough. The only thing I would exclude from my definition of real sobriety would be mushrooms once every few years because they are natural and really help with mental health.
@@XCI5IONthat’s a slippery slope but each its own
Love this
@JenkemOD believe it or not, you’re not in charge of how anyone else defines their sobriety
Is 2 milgram of Suboxone a lot to take
Depends on your tolerance to your doc
I personally wouldn't benefit from such a low dose. I take 24 mgs daily one 8 mg strip 3×daily.
i dont agree, i think being on a psychoactive drug everyday means you arent sober
I love when doctors speak on this issue when they have no idea what the hell they’re talking about. They’ve never been through it themselves, so what the hell do they know about it. Being on Suboxone is the same shit as taking the pills every single day. You are physically dependent upon this drug. If you don’t take it, you get sick just as if you weren’t taking the pills that you want this work. It is true you trade one addiction for the other. It’s the same goddamn thing. I know this because I am stuck on it! And if I don’t have enough, I physically get sick just like when I was doing pills. And if I don’t take it on time, I start going through with drawls just as if I was withdrawing from the pills. It’s the same goddamn thing same exact symptoms same exact feeling same exact shit going through my head.
Maybe your dose isn't high enough for maintenance. I personally don't get a high feeling from it like you would with methadone but everyone is different. I can also go a day or two before feeling sick. So I'm able to have some on standby in case I can't make it to dose.
And it's supposed to help with the cravings which will reduce the mental agony.
YES SR.B IT IS TRADING ONE FOR ANOTHER! I MADE MANY PPL MAD AT ME, SO SAYING THIS!
One that will kill you for one that won't sounds better than death. Had my brother listened he would still be alive today. Suboxone has saved millions of lives
Thank you!!
Sober for almost 2 years. Suboxone was my bridge across the pit that I needed to cross to get to the other side where I now enjoy sobriety.
If you work for it and truly have psychological sobriety then Suboxone is NOT hard you get off of. You just have to taper off, usually with a doctor's help, to avoid physical withdrawals. It's only hard up get off of if you're substituting it for working a program and working on yourself.
Does suboxone help with brain fog & detachment?
This dr is doing his job keeping g people on the drug $$$$$$$$$$ 🦆 🦆
You either are an addict who don't want to get clean or you have never experienced addiction either yourself or close family or friend.
Taking medication for a disease is not a bad thing. Are you going to make a diabetic feel bad for taking medication to help control his/her disease? Bet you wouldn't. A disease is a disease regardless. STOP MAKING PEOPLE FEEL GUILTY OR FEEL LIKE THEY ARE BAD FOR TAKING A MEDICATION THAT HELPS CONTROL THEIR DISEASE.
lol, stop lying to urselfes.