World Leading Physician View On ADHD: Gabor Mate
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- Опубліковано 6 лис 2022
- Gabor Mate is an expert physician who specialises in neurology. He has ADHD himself and in this clip explains the truth about the condition.
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Very misleading title, it is not the truth about ADHD, its Gabor Mate's opinion of ADHD. Get someone like Ned Hallowell or Russell Barkley on to discuss ADHD, they are experts in this field.
Gabor does tend to focus on trauma, but I think the modes of learning might also be involved. Some people are kinesthetic learners who are going to have trouble reading (visual learner) or listening to a lecture (audio learner). Sitting in the normal classroom would be very hard for them, so we give them Adderall, which is amphetamine ("speed").
@@NicolaMulholland Gabor Mate wrote a book on ADHD and he was diagnosed as well, I don't think anyone would write a book without knowing what they talk about. Even then, I think his view is important to be shared because it is comprehensive. He takes into account the person's history, past trauma, and environment which actually if it was changed the world would be a better place. "Experts" tell you how to deal with ADHD with medication and habits. I think Gabor tries to go deeper and he makes you THINK about your life and the world we live in. Maybe ADHD wouldn't be a problem if the world we lived in didn't expect us to be sitting at a workplace or school for 8+ hours I mean...it's crazy! but we got to do what we got to do to fit in and GET THINGS DONE. In my case, I just want to be "normal" so I take Gabor's advice: take your medicine if it helps you but don't stop working on the stuff that really matters.
You should have Dr. Russell Barkley on. He's an ADHD expert.
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I got diagnosed with ADHD years ago. I could remember several years ago after divorce with my husband which brought me into my disastrous journey on Alcohol and cigarettes. I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Got diagnosed with ADHD. Not until a friend recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Much respect to mother nature the great magic shrooms.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
Can you help me with the reliable source 🙏. I'm 56 and have suffered for years with addiction, anxiety and severe ptsd, I got my panic attacks under control myself years ago and they have come back with a vengeance, I'm constantly trying to take full breaths but can't get the full satisfying breath out, it's absolutely crippling me, i live in Australia. I don't know much about these mushrooms. Really need a reliable source!! Can't wait to get them
YES very sure of Dr.benfungi. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
100% agree I used to have Psychosis and paranoid thoughts like "people thinking about me talking about me etc. Very odd behavior after getting off Adderall from 7-16. Antidepressants at 18-29. 31 now. I took way to much, but took about 20g of Gold caps (Psilocybin containing mushroom) I analyzed my entire life. The emotions that came out helped me understand behavior etc more. Wont ever need to do it again because I'm happy and contempt forever, but I wish more people did this to alter their perception of reality. Would help with healing much trauma
How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
As someone with ADHD, who just completed a masters and my dissertation topic was research on parents with ADHD, with a daughter with ADHD and autism, who respects Dr Gabor Mate and who is a huge fan of the Diary of a CEO you really should have Dr Russell Barkley on to talk about ADHD. As much as I like Gabor, he is not a specialist in this field. So it would be ethical journalism to ensure you have someone who specialises on this topic to provide solid facts on ADHD.
this 100%. Iove Dr. Mate, but he's off-base here. Yes, there are people who have ADHD like smptoms that are trauma adapted. But to say it's all or nearly all is irresponsible.
I second this. Dr Barkley is incredible. He’s a great speaker and he is hands down the most knowledgeable person to speak on this topic.
facts.
The opening statement:
"There is no proof whatsoever that any medications help people heal from ADHD"
is just stupid.
Healing ADHD isn't the point of the medication, it is to manage symptoms.
It's like saying painkillers are stupid because they don't heal the broken bone causing the pain.
Thank you. Love Mate’s compassion and contribution, and still can hear some very important pieces of info missing from this. But I’ll salute his recognition that ADHD indeed includes exquisite sensitivity - a gift, ultimately, but only after one has learned to carry the burden. It’s not that ADHD isn’t real, it’s that it isn’t simple. So it’s not just genetics, nor just brain chemistry, true, but neither is it just a response to stress and trauma. It’s a complex topic and journey, so I appreciate this call for more guests to talk about what’s happening here. 🙏🏼
I wholeheartedly agree. I love Gabor, but he is out of his element and spreading disinformation. It would be to Gabor's credit if he publically dialogues with Russell Barkley, Thomas Brown, and Russell Barkley. ua-cam.com/video/bO19LWJ0ZnM/v-deo.html
Someone with ADHD isn't "broken", our society is.
I don't think the term is appropriate for either. Which is why to invest in literary, philosophy, and education.
Both an organism which requires care, guidance, and heartfelt treatment.
Utopia belongs in the realm of ideas, not reality. But it's *directionally* desirable. Not at the blind assumption that it is necessary an attainable endpoint. But a direction for improvement and net reduction of mass suffering.
There are many wordy ways that we can say society is 'broken', if we assume that morality disposition, but that is as much to fail the patient as it is to say that about an individual.
I understand your intent is good, but your statement requires many biases that hinder as well as help.
"Gabor is worse than wrong about ADHD"
I think he meant broken = got adhd but the act of having doesn’t make you broken we just function differently but not at the baseline
I grew up in an abusive household, lots of stress, and family history of alcoholism and poverty that goes back generations. I used to daydream a lot as a child, as a coping mechanism, and I still do. I'm 48 now and just got dx for ADHD and autistic tenancy. I've got autoimmune disease, fibro, and osteoarthritis. I'm also a veteran and DV survivor. I'm working on breaking generational trauma with my child.
You can do it!! ❤
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You can do it mate.
What is autistic tenancy? Is the word tenancy wrong?
Same
We can’t have a serious conversation regarding the spectrum of ADHD - Anxiety - Depression without getting honest about the physiological impact of watching screens. From the first TVs in the mid 20th century; to the Nintendo explosion, to present day smartphones. The human eye and it’s primary role of FOCUS in translating external environment into internal information and meaning needs to be deeply examined. What happens to our brainwaves when shift this focus from natural world to digital screens with a flicker rate in the billions per second ? What happens to your breathing ? Is your body stationary and locked in an unnatural (sitting) position ? The new smartphone technology has out paced our biology. Very few are ready to acknowledge and discuss these easily verified observations.
You have made the observations.
You have shared the observations.
Thank you for that.
What you have put forward is fundamentally needed for a real discussion.
ADHD has been documented in medical literature since the 1800’s. Depression and anxiety has been documented since.. well, as long as the oldest recorded history is. You somewhat have a point, but you don’t seem to realize smartphones have only been around since 2007. Video games and TV are just as stimulating gambling, drug use, eating, sex, etc. All of which have been around since antiquity.
@@wilhelmvg9978 someone with sense, thank you.
My grandmother has ADHD, so does mother, myself and my siblings. we suspect my father has it but he refuses to get tested.
All in all this has been around well before tech became a thing
Please share the link to ADHD being documented in the medical literature in the 1800s. Back up your claim with evidence. Thank you in advance.
So what happened to your grandmother’s brainwaves, breathing pattern and bodily nervous system when she was watching movies and black and white TV back in the day? Did it fire and wire new neurons in her brain and impact her nervous system?
A lot of gifted people have ADHD, they have a heightened sensitivity and they do get overwhelmed by their environment. It’s not necessarily a bad or traumatic environment. I don’t believe that every child who has ADHD has been traumatised.
It’s not always about trauma, it included stress such as parental or financial stress that occurs during critical developmental year
Neither do I believe that, but stating that "a lot of gifted people have adhd" is simply not true. There's pretty valid research out there suggesting a small negativ correlation with adhd and iq
@@lukejk6382 that’s not what I said. I didn’t say those who have adhd are gifted, in fact, it could be the opposite. But those who are gifted, many of them have ADHD. And gifted people are super sensitive to their environment.
@@izzy4575 it is still not true: there is no scientific evidence for gifted people being more like to have adhd. They seem to have it as often as other people do. In fact research suggests that adhd is often not as severe in those who are gifted and have it. It isn't even plausible why Individuals who are gifted should have a higher rate of adhd.
@@lukejk6382 agree to disagree. It is very common for gifted to have other neuro atypical differences like ADHD, which is one of the most common ones among gifted. In fact, it’s rare to just be gifted and not have anything else atypical going. Also, the symptoms of giftedness and ADHD overlap, that’s how close the correlation is. There’s even a term for it- when giftedness comes with challenges- twice exceptional.
Not every person with ADHD is gifted though.
I have no childhood trauma and I have extreme adhd. Its highly genetic and I see patterns of it all over my family. Because I am self employed, have no structure in my life, and am slightly obsessed with the internet it effects me more than them. Its an issue with dopamine dysregulation, maybe trauma can make it worse but it definitely doesn’t cause it. Trauma can cause borderline personality disorder which has some symptom overlap with adhd but it also has a genetic component. Lots of studies that show stimulant medication helps almost immediately in 85% of ADHD patients. It doesnt come without side effects but those can be regulated & fine tuned with different formulations & other supplements
Trauma can cause PTSD and depression, which is oftentimes misdiagnosed as ADHD.
Same here no trauma
@@WMBCS But they say you can inherebt your mother's traumas that she herself inherited from her mother,they call generational trauma,plus you can experience trauma when you're in your mothers' womb ,and brain can erase a harsh experience from your memory and you'll think you have never experienced it..
@@imen8254 That is some stupid statements!
@@Maowdiggenerational trauma has been proven, look it up..
You say “no trauma”, but everyone has some. Your childhood was no unicorns and butterfly’s trust me. You might remember it that way, but for sure there were bad moments and days.
Diagnosed at 32. Always knew something was different about me and struggled to relate and had a lot of depression. it was so validating to me to know im not alone and not just lazy and depressed
28 here, just got diagnosed 2 weeks ago. Haven't started on any meds yet.
@@Phykexyou should start as soon as possible. Its life changing
I had ADHD which manifested in lifelong workaholism and depression, since a very early age. Through listening to Dr Maté these past years, I now understand the connection of my depression, ADHD and workaholism with my own childhood traumas. Now when I am triggered, I am able to breathe through the familiar reactions to let them go and find real inner peace.
I was an elementary school teacher for decades, and saw many children with similar challenges. I always tried to create the learning atmosphere and safe environment, especially for boys with ADHD, that I didn’t have as a child.
Thanks for helping me find my real self, Dr Maté!
This is so beautiful! Well said and ty for sharing
Workaholism and adhd!!! 😂😂😂 You have no clue!
@@Hugo-dc9ndI first thought the same thing.. however he found his passion
I personally think it is a problem with low dompamine , hence why adhd suffers are more likely to become alcoholics in order to feel normal for a short period,and why the chosen medication speed is the best drug to boost dompamine and give a temporary fix.I have done alot of childhood therapy but still feel like a space cadet and unable to concentrate yet give me a strong coffee and lots of sugar and I feel focused for a while.
The only way I found is to boast domamine naturally by eating well ,exercise and sleeping well.
That is awesome ❤🙏
Diagnosed with ADHD last year at 41. Its funny because I was doing everything Gabor says to do to correct it before I even knew what ADHD was. My lifestyle was 95% coping mechanisms for something I didn't know I needed coping mechanisms for.
The only thing I had never done was Therapy, which I begun last month. And its helping. I also use the medication but I only take it 4 days a week with a 3 day break at the weekends. I'm hypersensitive and a partial responder to the medication so it doesn't even help me that much in terms of focus, internal hyperactivity and distractibility but it does help my executive dysfunction a bit which is my worst ADHD trait. I would like to come off the medication completely one day but for now i'm finding it has some utility while I find my way.
Try microdosing psilocybin
@@No-nl8jn Doesn't work as well as stimulants for executive dysfunction. I have extensive experience with microdosing psychedelics.
there are very good books on the highly sensitive person try deep breathing when you get anxious and meditation to lower blood pressure and help calm you down in order to grasp your environment without panic
@@ariesred777 Hi. I've been practicing meditation for 21 years. I have had problems with anxiety, never with panic.
@@Stoitism It is a general suggestion I hope the meditation has helped you
I was misdiagnosed with ADHD for 20 years until I had a brain scan done, which showed that I actually have severe PTSD and depression. The symptoms of ADHD were being caused by my mood, not from low blood flow or damage to my prefrontal cortex. Willing to bet this may be the case in many other ADHD diagnoses.
Where did you have a brain scan done?
@@marissangephart Amen Clinic
@@marissangephart- no brain scan shows that lol
I took my daughter to many medical Dr and I decided to take her to holistic Dr. They did blood work and it showed up on that her brain. I always knew she had the ADHD which was the least of her problems
But they did see she didn't have much melatonin in her brain which caused her depression. I was pretty desperate because she has alot of mental disorders. Has been in therapy since the age 7 and now is 26 years and she still goes every week.
PTSD can definitely cause similar symptoms
He is so right on. I know from my own life experience. Drugs alone won't solve trauma. Trauma must be uncoved, felt, grieved and create meaningful understanding. The truth can set one free.
Can't argue with that per se.
But some "doctors" refuse to provide life saving medication regardless of the fact that people have came to terms with and have understood their trauma intricately for decades. And to withhold an easily available treatment to a desperate dying soul with a neurological disorder is a crime against humanity.
ADHD is not trauma, it's neurological.
i am 51 and in school in 80s no one in school even mentioned adhd . i thought my whole life i was just lazy . In my 40s after researching on the internet that i have the symptoms . Now i am aware and my life has improved knowing why i act like i do .
One of my psychologist thinks I gave ADHD also
The book that changed my life by the title alone, “You Mean I’m Not Lazy, Crazy or Stupid?” Is fantastic. I felt less like an alien and much less alone in the world. The 2 authors have ADD as well. Excellent read and very reassuring!
I’m 48 and we didn’t know about dyslexia let alone ADHD. You were either clever, or sporty or hyper and naughty. I’m glad things have moved on in terms of what we know about behaviour, trauma, coping mechanisms, masking etc.
But do you actually know why you act the way that you do? Or are you simply familiar with the label those actions are given? That's the crux of the problem being discussed in this video. ADHD is not a *cause* of anything. It's a term used to describe a pattern of behavior for which the cause(s) are largely not agreed upon.
@@BluishNomad yes I do. early childhood trauma plus social conditioning plus physical ill health
I have ADHD and I am NOT broken!
So glad to hear you say that. This video made me really angry. I was diagnosed a couple of years ago, and having access to ADHD meds and an ADHD coach has absolutely changed my life.
I had to have a heart-breaking conversation with a woman I work with whose child has just been diagnosed with ADHD. She has really fought for him to be treated better at school and to get an assessment on the NHS and I've been talking to her a lot as she knows I have ADHD as well. She came to me nearly in tears one day and told me that she had been watching Gabor Mate talking about ADHD, and she was now worried that she had done something to her son to cause him severe trauma, and that's why he has ADHD. Awful. I felt so bad for her.
@@susannalarsson1525 Exactly this. It's extremely damaging rhetoric that's not founded in any reliable research.
Agreed. But I'm glad he said that because that's a perspective many people have, so they are more likely to listen to this whole clip. If it started as 'we are going to explain why ADHD is real.. or why ADHD doesn't mean you're broken..', people might draw assumptions and double down on their preconceived notions, deciding that everything about to be said is stupid, and then conclude it's not worth hearing.
Same.
@@melberlin89his team did research on 65k children and noticed the common denominators were 'stressful environments' that doesn't immediately mean bad parenting
Have ADHD. Not broken, simply more aware than most about what occurs around me. I can divide my focus. My teachers never let me see a downside to it, they just gave me more to do.
Dyslexia, and ADHD, but a ASD diagnosis. It's all bullcrap. Science to be honest. It's not even testable.
He is brilliant. 😮. What a guy. I was diagnosed with ADHD and autism both by different psychologists.
My mum even after my diagnostic reports came back positive, refused to believe I had ADHD. When I tried to confront her about my autism, she snubbed me and sniggered and snared and told me to stop giving myself things....😢 . I decided we have nothing in common and we don't see eachother any more.
I’m sorry to hear that, she seems like a loving mother , that wanted to protect you from labels , I hope you forgive her and talk to her again ❤
@@ghadaeid.BalanceRevivalwow, someone is trying to have boundaries that work for them and you tell them to not listen to themselves and prioritize mom who makes hurtful comments?? A healthy mom would apologize and try to do better
Can I ask how you were diagnosed? And what test did you take? I’m trying to see if I’m autistic because there’s a lot of social cues that I miss
@@ellenbrown579 putting boundaries is great and it comes hand in hand with forgiveness, love and forgiveness heals ❤️ it’s not either this or that . Ultimately it’s up to her to decide if and when to forgive.
Snickered *
1. You're not doing any of your friends any good by suggesting that ADHD means broken! That's insulting and sad. We're not broken, we're different.
The term is NEURODIVERGENT, and we work hard to adapt to neurotypical formats.
2. No, there's no proof that anything can "heal" ADHD because it's not a temporary illness, it is a condition of how our brains are wired.
3. Maybe one of the reasons we feel more stress is because we are structured more like square pegs and society wants us to fit into round holes!
4. ADHD is not an accurate label. Most of us don't have a deficit of attention we have an abundance of attention and it is harder to filter things out.
5. Please don't limit your focus or interviews with one person who disagrees with the inherited factor or choose only those who support your limited preconceived notions.
Look up Jessica McCabe's TedTalk.
5. ADHD has a large spectrum! Think of any neurodivergent spectrum as a pie shape not a line. There are many, many, overlapping factors with as well.
6. Best wishes for learning about the vastness of neurodivergent people and someday supporting the understanding rather than where you currently sit.
You don't want to live with cancer, Think of long Term medication, medication damages alot in the body
@@lauradegregorio5005 you missed the point of the op. Please read it again, slowly.
Number four 👌
Or check out russell barkley
Thank you for your post! Please could you expand on number 4
Some children are also naturally been very sensitive to their environment and pick up stress more easily. Also the school environment can be stressful with its competitive nature & lack of creativity.
and the increasing amount of unnecessary vaccines!
Public school kills the child. Homeschool or send your kids to Steiner and Montessori schools.
He says ‘the genes don’t determine, they make you more sensitive to the environment…the more you feel the stress of the environment’
Yeah, are you repeating what he said or did you not watch the video?
@@jacobroberts411I’m adding my experience as a parent if you didn’t understand my comment.
My partner was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult, I have some similar symptoms though an ASD diagnose and was certainly the "dreamy girl that tunes out in the background", our toddler started exhibit ADHD symptoms early and I chose to get educational help as well as psychological support for us, parents, because my partner needed help to understand our sensitive boy, and I had to work on my childhood PTSD. Our boy healed quickly and his behovior returned to normal, despite his "genes" and without medication. So I have experienced what Gabor MAte describes in this clip.
THANK YOU doc ;)
Could you elaborate on how you achieved that please?..
We're not broken, we're born in to a world that is broken. There are brain differences that have clearly been shown in neuroimaging research. We're not coping with the systems and structures in place because there is no value in these differences. 'Success' and respect is only earned through greed, wealth, capital and 'production'/'productivity.
Glad someone said this!!🎉
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This was almost healing to hear as someone diagnosed in their 20s- thank you for this conversation
@ROBERT MICHAEL you had to ruin it
Mate is a crank who lied about his credentials and pushes long debunked nonsense theories.
ADHD was first described in 1798. It's one of the most longest known, longest studied and best understood conditions in all of neurology. It's also one of the most treatable, which makes it all the more a shame that someone with the status of Dr Mate can appear so inconsistent, vaguely dismissing medication while taking it himself, seemingly suggesting it's not a 'real' medical condition, whilst at the same time acknowledging that stress & trauma in the young affects brain development. ADHD is a neuro-developmental condition - a significant delay in brain development, which can have a number of causes. He's too focussed here on his own specialisms and confusing the issues. He states medication can't 'heal' adhd, but suggests that dealing with underlying trauma will. You simply can't 'heal' brain development. Of course medication doesn't 'heal' it. You can manage it with medication, in the same way you would manage diabetes with medication. ADHD is a lifelong condition - and it's real enough to be clearly visible on an MRI scan.
Problem also with this is why not have a follow up video from ADCA.
It is becoming clearer and clearer each day that ADHD (which only defines a few of the neurological components) is a far reaching and complex neurological-developmental brain type and the attention deficit hyperactive component title needs to be re-branded.
For those who go through life undiagnosed it can pose real issues.
Understanding it’s effect in the pre-frontal Cortex and how to manipulate dopamine responses can have a profound beneficial effect on individuals who have been diagnosed.
I think we are at a paradigm shift where neurodiverse brain types become accepted. We are really just looking a varied brain types.
I'm in the undecided camp so using diabetes as an example isn't going to fly because diabetes can reversed with a proper healthy diet. This is also why I remain skeptical that ADD can only be treated with medication.
Also, just because something has been studied for many decades does not mean that it's understood, especially these days when there're always big money behind the treatments.
Lastly, regarding Dr Mate being inconsistent, he only said that he used to take the medication but now his brain has changed and he doesn't need it anymore.
Exactly what I was thinking..... my daughter aged 4 years has ADHD and she's the most happiest child she is loved very much and has never gone through any trauma. It does really make me question these doctors that come on UA-cam and give health advice without even realising the facts it's very confusing. ❤
@@Lukearthwalker
Only type 2 diabetes can be healed. If you talk about type 1 then lifelong medication is absolutely necessary
Don't dismiss this doctor's advice. It's very wise. Because medication works while it works, but what happens when you don't treat the underlying psychological disorder? Answer: the medication becomes less effective over time, because the brain chemistry changes. Only leaving you with the mounting and debilitating side effects, the medication gives you. So now you're prescribed new medications to deal with the side-effects of the old.
Spoken as someone who has treated type 1 diabetes successfully for 34 years. The crux of the problem is a broken endocrine system. It's role is to communicate to every organ, cell & electrical impulse for optimal hormone release. Enter chronically elevated cortisol levels. The only hormone capable of switching the endocrine system off for long periods of time, when at chronic levels. This is why there's an increase in all mental health and chronic disease.
Without an endocrine system, hormone production has no moderating system. At maximum saturation, the immune system steps up do deal with conflicts - caused by cells now full to capacity and dying off in large numbers. This is caused by a broken endocrine system, but also pumping the body full of synthetic hormones.
Enter chronic inflammation, and a new list of medications considered non related to your initial treatment plan.
I could bore you with what I know after 34 years in a medical system, that medicates you into palliative care. But I'd rather tell you it's possible to treat all underlying issues in the body, by eliminating cortisol. Which is how I got off the raft of growing medications and "inexplicable" (not at all related) side-effects. 😉
I take only insulin now, and I can virtually eliminate it with the right diet. That's not what they'll tell you though. You'll die without insulin. When insulin is merely a hormone response to food and stress. Manage those and you don't need as much, if at all, the synthetic supplement.
It’s really true. I feel so much better and do so much better since I am gone out of my stressed parents home.
I’m one of four children all with issues from childhood bereavement’s but this clip has really made me understand my child self & why I always felt I didn’t fit in. Insight is amazing!
I hereditated a neurodegenerative disease from my dad, I also developed refractory celiac disease and IBS.
In my childhood I have seen my brother struggling with epilepsy and my mom with Chron s disease.
These emotions are still haunting me and the physical pain that I have suffered with my intestine, killed my balance.
For me zooming out were: hyperactivity, compulsion, addiction and self doubt.
If you haven't already, you might try daily meditation to bring your body back into homeostasis.
You can try the carnivore diet and maybe your IBS will heal, there are a lot of testimonies of people who got cured.
Have you tried a juice feast?
Sometimes i just think ADHD is looked at as a disease because the world is built around people who function “normally”. I wonder if ADHD was treated simply as another way humans function, and have systems that makes an environment that enhances their performance, all the negative aspects such as trauma, feeling of worthlessness, then all the anxiety and depression that comes with it just might not have to exist. Maybe we’re just built different, not wrong. And maybe society could make rooms and systems that fit our way of functioning. Then maybe we could thrive as healthy, creative individuals.
The anxiety and depression that CAN come with ADHD doesn’t necessarily come from not functioning in society. Most people with the condition do function somewhat well because they’ve learned to live with it.
This is the fundamental underpinning of many issues, to be honest. People are highly irregular, or variable, yet society wants to have a single standard of "normal". Any deviation is seen and treated as strictly a problem, and often a moral/character failure, instead of simply naturally occurring variation.
It's a wholly unrealistic expectation that's built into the foundation of the culture... that's a serious problem.
Precisely, it's the same thing when it comes to the concept of time for me. I've tried countless methods and maneuvers to try to be a more timely and time conscious person, yet while I'm occasionally on time for things, in general, I fail miserably and feel so ashamed bc every one always seems so disappointed in me for it. Our society seems to think that people who are chronically late are selfish and inconsiderate of other people's time. However, it's like a blindness to the concept of time for me and it's never been my intention to disrespect anyone else's time. I'm far from a selfish person, I've been perceived more so as a people pleaser than anything else (to which I mostly disagree about anyway), but I'm a truly loving, caring and considerate person. I just don't think this society is built to allow for people like me who just cannot grasp the concept of time like everyone else seems to. I often feel like I've been doing a task for about 5 minutes or so, when it's actually been 15-30+ minutes. It happens constantly. It's miserable feeling attacked by people for something I never intentionally do!!!
I also have wondered if we were born during a time with tough work on a farm years ago if that would have been thought of as a society positive.
Absolutely 👏
I'm a fan of Gabor and I think his efforts to bring the role of trauma to the forefront and to remind adults about important considerations when raising children, is excellent. I think he misconstrues the gaps in our understanding of ADHD causes and he over reaches when drawing conclusions.
Yes he has ADHD. Yes his traumatic early years had a lifelong impact on him. His evidence to link the two, in him and others is shaky
He should keep up his good work, even though he gets it not quite right on the adhd topic
And yes...there is a group of genes that it interlinked with ADHD, BPD and ASS. It's just not clear to what effect and why but it's there. You'll find seriuos studies with one search attempt,
He's no expert on this and simplifying near to painting a romantic picture of it.
What are the gaps missing where you’re saying he’s not correct?
@@DanniBby As I understand it, foremost it is not a 'mental illness' but rather a biochemical imbalance in the brain caused by the receptors who are supposed to receive dopamine, serotonin and nor-adrenalin does not fully receive...I heard it describes as a car (this case the mentioned neuro transmitters) who drives in to a carport only to have the door stop midway, so only some of the neurotransmitters 'hit home'. So it is not that the body lacks the ability to produce the neurotransmitters, but the receptors are somewhat blocked...and this of course has a huge impact on executive brain functions etc. I hope a neuroscientist or someone with up to date research reads this and correct me, if I am wrong (but I also find that Mr. Mate goes over a very complex matter too smooth)
@@DanniBby::: We are all being poisoned by what we consume - air, food, water, and especially, what is injected directly into our bloodstream. The epigenetic pressure is mounting, sensitive or not.
I totally agree with you. I personally have CPTSD (from childhood trauma) and ADHD-C (ADHD and Autism are common in my family). I see the two as distinct conditions. Of course they affect each other (the same as any co-morbidity) because they both exist in my body.
I find Gabor's insights into trauma very useful but I prefer Dr Russel Barkley for a better understanding of ADHD (Barkley's information is more scientific and sobering.... no fluffy sound bites, just robust research findings).
Having ADHD does NOT mean you're broken. We're neurodivergent. We KNOW that neurodiversity exists, some brains exhibit similar structures/neural patterns which can be categorised broadly into a label such as autism or ADHD.
This means ADHD expresses itself differently and affects everyone who has it differently. Some people have low support needs and others have very high support needs, for example, their mental health might be severely affected by ADHD and they need to constantly manage it. I suggest you look up the stats on people with ADHD who attempt suicide and suffer severely with their mental health before you make sweeping statements which are really NOT helping us with ADHD AT ALL.
Thank you.
What does the specific label matter? You're just trying to dodge the associations attached to them without any actual difference between the terms. And he's not at all denying that there are different sorts of structures (or more precise, tendency for structures to form, due to higher 'sensitivity-settings') which could be given some arbitrary label because this happens to quite a lot of people with roughly shared symptoms.
The rest of your comment is just you repeating the claims of the current narrative as if they were established facts and not loosely created and held hypotheses. Know how science works.
As someone with ADHD I want to prevent the same suffering I have gone through, which is exactly as Gabor Mate's hypothesis, and to do that we need understanding of what causes the negative symptoms.
ADHD is not neurodiversity it is a stress response. I have both ADHD and ASD. ADHD is curable and ASD is just how my brain works naturally. ADHD is cured by healing trauma and regulating your nervous system. Stop trying to seem special by making yourself out to be neurodiverse.
@@queengoblin Utter tripe! Show me one peer reviewed research paper that back your claim?
@@queengoblin I'd find your comment less objectionable if you'd just started with "I personally believe..."
The “Nurtured Heart approach”, by Howard Glasser is THE best source for this information!
He guides families how to respond differently ADHD and ADD diagnosed children.
And just in general, a GREAT parenting guide!!!
No one thing works for all. For me it’s to stay open to many sources incl Dr Mate. I don’t follow. This way I rec’v info from diff views. We all need to find what works best and right for us. I’m glad you did. You may also like quotes by Jiddu Krishnamurti and his books like Happy is the one who is nothing, or The book of life. Peace and health.
Gabor Mate has useful insights on trauma but I think he is making quite sweeping assertions regarding ADHD and overlooks what we have learned about it from longitudinal studies and research. As regards ADHD, I'm afraid I'm with the science. Also, ADHD medications don't claim to cure ADHD, just manage some of the symptoms on a day-to-day basis. Occupational therapy is also needed alongside to manage executive functions.
Let's talk about the breakdown of families and being a part of community a and/or village for a collection of support so that it's not just all on the parents. The more individualistic and isolated the more pressure there is on the individual. As a family with multiple ADHD brains, I don't believe we are broken, but I do believe that it's harder for us to find a place and acceptance in our differences in the way that Society is structured right now, especially in City living. I think our expectations of one another have change, I think we have less Grace for uniqueness and when we have the privilege of being a part of community we can press into one another strength. This is understood in business but not really Community or families. We're all just kind of expected to function as a perfect individual whole without acknowledging a need for one another. ADHD brains have strengths to offer, but more often than not the way that our society has been restructured, there's less opportunity to utilize those strengths and more focus on the weaknesses. Everybody has two sides of the coin. Everybody has strengths and weaknesses. What are we willing to notice and give attention to? That boy in the class whose fidgety probably just needs to be in a better environment that utilizes his energy and creativity and strengths!
One of the most sensible posts I have read in a long time. It's true that city living makes family life more isolated and forget about extended families. The pressure is mostly borne by the parents
::: If possible, plant a community garden. The one crucial issue not mentioned, is that our diet is whacked out, and, we are what we eat.
“Several of the genes were associated with ADHD, including SLC6A3, DBH (609312), DRD4 (126452), DRD5 (126453), and 5HT1B (182131). In studies of individual genes, what appeared to be a consistent pattern of preferential paternal transmission of risk alleles to affected children with ADHD was observed.”
I guess Gabor doesn’t have Google 🤷🏻♂️
Yes the key word here would be “Associated” with ADHD. Meanwhile, this dude is explicitly saying “there is no gene or group of genes that *implicitly guarantee* you have ADHD” which is true.
I guess Rod has selective hearing when he wants to make a biased point 🤷♂️
According to ground-breaking biologist Dr Bruce Lipton, you can have a gene that might be related to a particular disease (i.e. cancer gene) but that does not cause the disease. It is correlation but not causation. It is 100% the environment that activates it. As would be the case if a grandmother, mother and daughter all got cancer (same environement). According to him, only 1% of all diseases are actually inherited. Schools are still teaching the old hypothosis that disease is inheritable, even though it has been disproven.
@@wilhelmvg9978 what a counter😊👏👏👏clapping from South Africa...
@@omphemetsechake2839 thank you 😊❤️
Yes. There is a huge amount of research showing ADD is largely genetic ie inherited and then ALSO shaped by environmental and family factors. I find it bizarre he doesn't address this scientific research directly. Have been discussing with neuroscience specialist.
Gabor mate is such a game changer
Blessed to have him everywhere now
Amazing entreview!!
I’m 65 and have had ADHD (as described) my whole life. We used to call it scatter brained. It made certain things more difficult but at the same time I can excel at some things. I think my brain was always looking for anything that would give me a Dopamine rush. You can’t focus because your brain is saying it wants more Dopamine than you feel right now. Anyone that is scatter brained knows how incredibly difficult it is to listen to a person when they are talking directly to you. But it’s common and doesn’t make people diseased, just different. I sometimes wonder if modern Psychology is getting too aggressive on labeling or categorizing behavior types. Especially if they are saying that 10 % of the people have it. Imagine if ten percent of people had ANY other disorder, syndrome or disease of any kind. It would be horrific right. That tells me that someone went too far in categorizing ADHD as not normal. Trust me my “ADHD” has allowed me to do things other “normal “ people can’t. People are different. Yes if you are Dopamine starved it’s a wild ride for sure. Don’t give people a new syndrome as an excuse for irresponsibility. But it sure sells a lot of meds.
I see people giving people an life line of reasons why they are the way hey are and people live in that narrative if it suits them. A blessing and a curse.
10% of us are living with endometriosis and 12% are living with migraine disease. Both illnesses are becoming increasingly debilitating and disabling. Over a 1/3 to 1/2 of us are living with chronic illness of some kind. Cancer is 1 in 2. As a society we are becoming more sick and unwell. At the same time we are under more stress and pressure in all areas of our lives than ever before. To me, it’s all bringing us back to the fact we are human beings, here to live a human experience. But instead we are trying to keep up with the demands of modern day living and technology. All of which are illusions of our own creation. Imagine what else we can create? As someone who is living proof of it, I believe health is one of the things we can now go on to create.
@@amberhorrox but there’s no money to be made with cures. But there is with making up diseases. My sister lived with terrible migraines for years. It was awful. I feel bad for you. She found out she was depressed, got treatment and her migraines stopped.
@@SlipMahoneyBowery your bang on there. I do believe illness and disease in the majority (if not all) is man made, in that we have created it. But I do also believe we have the power to move away from it and create wellness
Interesting
Our thinking creates … chemistry and it is through this chemistry we record understanding through our senses and eventually into memories etc.
in effect we are all chemical factories. Our “chemistry set”feeds the all the systems of the body and wellbeing… or not.
Hence we are to be careful what we put into our systems for they are vulnerable to toxic thinking and chemicals…
We think fear into reality and then make ourselves triggerable… by our own thinking or others … and we all know we are auto-suggestive.
All this is said to set a scene… what we create, we can dis-assemble …
I mention this as the subject matter touched on dopamine and this “high” introduces our predisposition to addiction.
Dismantling the chemistry involved in addiction is the process of cracking the driver which is holding us ransom.
Mindfulness beats medicine as we can create our own well-being and with it self-confidence in our ability to assert self-control. Not something promoted much these days in the world of consumerism. But it can be done and our over-wrought senses can be gently recalibrated if we are kind and patient with ourselves as we gently explore reversing things. No easy when the message of this era has become convenience… which comes at a price.
And the world’s addiction appears to be speed … and still pushing for ever faster … so the answer?? … is to slow down
Many cultures have positive modelling for wellbeing based on how we think and behave towards our mind/body/spirit… for good reason.
I suffered severe anxiety and mental disorder for over 24 years. It's just amazing how psilocybin mushrooms treatment actually saved my life. 6 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.
they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here. and mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on this planet i wish people would all realize.
I've been looking to try shrooms, it's just very difficult to get a reliable source here in Orlando. Really need!
@@darlingtonegeonu1110 florida? just go outside after it rains lol
Do I think that mushrooms will help my son it's be a wild ride with him!
I have ADHD and a lot of what he said I agree with. Medication does help but for me I used meditation and counseling and systems that keep me on track. I would say what I have found is medication alone isn’t enough you need to bring in other modalities to help you figure out what you can do to manage it. My opinion is it’s not a disease but a different way of thinking and all of us have challenges of different types mine just happens to be ADHD it’s ok. That’s what makes me extra unique.
Well said - I agree that it’s more a way of thinking or being… The ‘hunters or gatherers theory’ is interesting.
Someone should have a adhd group discussion with Dr Andrew Huberman, Dr Gabor Mate, and Dr Amen. Id like to see where they each draw points
Resonates , i had a hard childhood due to my mums terrible mental health and my dads harshness and i was an extremely sensitive young boy .. i also suffered from a 10 year drug addiction , im 28 now and clean but by god do i not enjoy life , i am constantly battling myself and i dont think ill ever find peace , i have been diagnosed and decided to not take medication
I do gym 3 times a week, 5 litres of water a day, and i stick to a protein rich and Mediterranean based diet. Still cant hold a job down or motivate myself, self regulate or control my emotions. I have my assessment finally next month and cannot wait to get on the meds to straighten me out and start making the most of my potential
How are you doing?
The interview is life changing! It helps me make sense of some symptoms that I have struggled with for decades! It makes perfect sense that they are not so much symptoms but responses. I thought i would need medication for life to manage these symptoms and i hated the thought. I now have a hope that I did not have before this. I am grateful for both the interviewer and the interviewee for changing my life 🎯🏆🙏🏾👍🏾
gotta say this is the most pathologizing explanation of ADHD I've heard to date and ignores entire bodies of research better explaining the phenomena discussed (like the increases in diagnoses, the overlap or misdiagnosis of ADHD and trauma, the problems that arise from "complex trauma" not yet being a legitimized diagnosis, and why kids in lower SES households are more likely to present having ADHD). ADHD is a pervasive wiring that isn't just tuning out or avoiding uncomfortable realities or reacting to stress.
Parenting interventions ARE super important and in general helping adults respond positively to kids who do have ADHD (or other adults), but if it's actually ADHD, changing these things do not fix the adhd - if it's actually the correct diagnosis, then ADHD will be present for the person's whole life, though some symptoms naturally resolve or are lessened with age. I totally agree with that the environmental and behavioral parts of
ADHD treatment are just as if not more important than medication depending on the severity, but this "origin story" for ADHD is rather discouraging.
ADHD and wiring from complex traumatic experiences are different (though they do impact each other).
You don't "heal" from ADHD - you definitely do "heal" from trauma. By using that language, it suggests that ADHD is some kind of wound - there are many joyful parts of ADHD and it isn't something to fix but something to manage and learn how to work with, like a powerful horse.
There are other explanations out there folks that aren't quite so pathologizing and don't center on intergenerational trauma or the necessity of "healing" ADHD. Healing trauma? yes. "Healing" ADHD? nope.
Scienctific - changes ALL the time from left to right . Do't put yourself in a box cuz "science" said so .Everything is a "theory" . I had identity disorder that then developped to sexuality disorder and have heard all these lies about "born with it" that some still push , it's wrong . I think people should take the lesson from the triangle of food and SO MANY labled "scientific facts" . Don't push yourself into the wall , you never know if it can be healed or not , no doctor or an scientific should make you think they know facts , cuz that's a lie . They know just based on the tools they have , and let us not add the fact of agenda that get pushed in a lot of the research field .
Thank you. I completely agree! Some valid points were made throughout, but overall I was left disappointed. And, especially with his stance on the matter, there seems to be an avoidance to an even larger issue at hand. And that is that we live in a broken system that is invoking unnecessary stress. But considering he and so many others have benefited substantially off of this system, it's probably best that he not bite the hand that feeds him so to speak.
Totally agree. As a parent of a much loved little girl with very serious ADHD, I very much disagree with this doctors opinion on the ADHD cause. And the impact of medication is utterly life-changing for our daughter.
I have ADHD, just diagnosed, I’m 55, I’m not broken. Im a creative and very successful. ADHD is my superpower. But not everyone sees it that way sadly
The numbers are increasing in diagnosis because first of all worldwide more and more people start to understand what this disorder is, more of us are identifying it as present under a form or other in our lives affecting us and impacting our mental health.
Exactly this is essentially gobbledygook. The only reason diagnosis are going up is because we let so many people down. Even older generations, they have it in their brains that they are okay. Many of the older people learn to cope because they had no knowledge and no tools available to them to help them with the struggles they have. It wasn't until recently we started understanding how much complexity there is with this developmental disorder.
Those of us who actually have it can attest as life with ADHD is not fun. It's not about getting freaking stimulant medication. Stimulate medication makes me chill, it allows my brain 8 hours or so a day to actually focus instead of running through endless loops of random shit. This stuff may work for some people but even with mindfulness tools and breathing techniques and behavioral techniques that I've learned throughout the years and CBT. They're tools, none of it is a cure-all and people can come on and off medication at any time and have different effects because everybody's biochemistry is different. But labeling it as there's no such thing that it doesn't exist it's just way overreaching.
This dude is literally the "I had ADHD all my life but I managed to struggle through the struggle and pull myself up by the proverbial bootstraps to learn really awful coping mechanisms and to condition myself in a way that doesn't actually change anything about my diagnosis It's just a product of it..." (🫠)
They're too old to care to change. And most likely they are so ashamed that they are different that would never dare utter the fact that they were damaged or broken or however they see themselves. You don't have to take stimulant medication if your diagnosed. You just get the tools that actually help instead of really bad coping to mechanisms and twisted way of thanking about it. It's cuz you think you don't have it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist
I find it very interesting how he said he did take medication for his ADD but now doesn't as his brain chemistry has changed and the medication stopped working. It's the first time I've heard someone speak of this! I was diagnosed with ADD at 16 years old and im now 42. I too have noticed the medication doesn't work as it used to since I had my son 10 years ago and I'm needing to use a lot of other helpful strategies that help my ADD instead of medication. There needs to be more info out there about this.
I find exercise really helps
Look up pre/post menopause and increase in adhd symptoms.
I’m a psychotherapist with adhd I was on meds for years they made me worse! Med free and enjoy life far more now
Amazing! I love how ADHD & PTSD are being studied so much more now. Wish it had been much sooner, but at least it’s happening now! 🙏🏽🙏🏽 God bless! 🦋
This interview helped me so much to understand better the right way to handle stress and medication. Thank you very much!
Omg I can’t believe you think people with ADHD or other mental differences are broken. People are different, we’re more aware of it now, and it is beautiful!!
Great conversation! Packed full of nuggets and insight that has helped me! I am a retired housekeeper turned somewhat caregiver to seniors and young families struggling with ADHD, early onset dementia and mild depression. I will get the book mentioned here!
Thank you✌🏾
I’m a massive fan of both Gabor and Steven! Just slightly disappointed in this video as I’m someone who has been diagnosed Adhd at a very young age, and really worked extremely hard through adapting myself to function well in a routined society. The snippet is way too short to explain Adhd and how to treat it - so the “rationalized” intro triggered me to comment. The video is top level surface info and require a lot more in dept conversation. Specially as Steven mentioned 1/9 people are diagnosed. That’s insane!
Interesting to hear an episode about the dark side of ADHD. Concern how easily people get diagnosed with ADHD, dive into the people who abuse ADHD medication (just google Ritalin and the first search that comes up is “what happens if a person without adhd takes Ritalin), understanding why well diagnosed ADHD people feel ashamed of it (like I used to), the psychological Pro’s and con’s of constantly masking adhd and behavior. Contradictory the way it feels to a diagnosed person when ADHD is a “trendy word people throw around when they self diagnose themselves. Lastly, why people are so against medication for ADHD compared to other “brain conditions” as I struggled until my husband helped me taking my medication routinely - which I wasn’t able to do myself.
Adhd is not a choice, it’s a differently wired brain. Some brain parts will never have the ability to master skills “normal” brains have.
In my case, medication was a necessity to got me to where I am today, and prevented me from having a life in which I can not function in society. (Having a job, starting a business, having a family. Etc)
Not everyone has the daily guidance how to mask, adapt or learn how to deal with adhd. It’s a wonderful brain we have, but definitely a love hate relationship. Issues like time blindness or severe forgetfulness or “being skilled to spot distractions”😆 are just the longest journey to tackle. Learning a skill requires routine, and routine is the enemy of an adhd brain.. 😅 I’ve gotten so much better over the years but I’m still terrible at it. Apps, clocks, reminders, organizing programs, a PA, Apple Watch with reminders list goes on. It’s the toughest job to have a brain that constantly needs to work differently - it’s like throwing a stick to a cat and expecting it to fetch. The brain just errors 😂
Whatever my opinion is, thanks for creating this video and opening the conversation. I’m looking forward reading Gabor’s book and hopefully learn something meaningful like I usually do in both of your amazingly valuable content! Meanwhile - typing this comment I’m 46 minutes late for my business meeting, thanks adhd. 😅
We are not wired for the world as it presently exists. While we have to survive and adapt because here we are, who’s to say that the world in its present state is functioning naturally or correctly?
I recommend reading his book Scattered Minds... it is thorough
Jeez write a novel. At your age you still have no self awareness.n
Eye opening. The most helpful thing I have EVER heard about ADHD! Thank you!
I have done a lot of therapy and self-help, meditate, eat well, learn about supplements, did yoga, go out in nature, work out. Now I do all that and take ny ADD meds. I wish I had startes taking them 20-30 years ago.
I was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult 6 years ago, and both my kids have it as well.
My parents had traumas from their childhood, and passed it on to me, leading to me taking my traumas into my parenting.
In the last couple of years I have done a lot of inner work, and I totally agree with Gabor Maté.
We need to see that the diagnosis is not the cause of the symptoms, but that the traumas we endured caused us to have these symptoms.
We still have ADHD, with all its negative and positive sides, but this way of looking at it makes a huge difference in how we look at our selves and how we can manage life.
Meditation helps
Mate is completely wrong though. ADHD is genetic. It is not caused by trauma. His theories have been proven wrong and completely discarded by actual ADHD specialists for good reason. Mate is a fraud. He lies about his credentials. He has zero background in neurology, his specialization was in general medicine and pediatrics.
@@mandolinistry3207 do you have any documentation on these statements to back it up?
I'm just curious 😊
Some hundred years ago it was believed that oar releasing was the cure for a number of illnesses. They even found evidence for it. Thankfully they changed view point around 1900...
Does thinking like this still help every day all day?
Gabor Mate is oversimplifying ADHD...
All models, methods and reliefs, work 75%, 50% of the time when it comes to ADHD.
Ironically, when it comes to not passing it on and being rational about good parenting, I'm at my best after the kids are lying in bed, and I'm 5 minutes away from sleeping myself.....
I have to see a psychiatrist, and I do think that I might have ADHD. I’ve seen videos, and I’ve seen what they have gone through meaning, the people that are making the videos some thing I finally realized is not to fight against ADHD, but know how to use it to your advantage. One of the things that I’ve heard the people with this disorder is that they work so hard and get fail. Now I’m looking at those things and realizing I’m not going to fight against it, but know how to use it.
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Yes, dr.sporessss. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac.
He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is. dr.sporessss
I respect Dr. Mate for his experience and expertise, but I'm sure that he knows how his statement that "there's no medication that can cure ADHD" might take away hope from some people.
ADHD is a chronic condition. Research scientists who study the condition and methods to treat it, and clinicians who specialize in treating it, are clear that it is a condition that ADHD patients will have for life. Treatments can help reduce the impact of the condition. Medication is one such treatment, and a very effective one.
I, for one, prefer to put focus on what can be done to help people... not imply that they cannot be helped.
True, there is no cure. There are many medical conditions which have no cure, but for which treatment can be given in order to improve quality of life for the patient and the people who are close to them.
Dr. Mate has done a great thing to increase awareness that childhood family stress can contribute to the development of ADHD... but not everyone who goes through the same childhood stressors develops ADHD. (e.g. I have ADHD, but my older brother does not...and we are about a year different in age.) So, there are factors other than childhood stress or trauma... that is why it's very important to recognize the genetic factor that Dr. Mate seems to downplay when he acknowledges it.
As for medication as treatment... I'm very grateful that it's available, because it has changed my life for the better. Besides the diagnosis itself pointing me towards understanding myself and how to accommodate my ADHD traits, medication has been the biggest factor in improving the quality of life for me and for my family. I will gladly take a medication for the rest of my life, in order to live better than I did prior to my ADHD diagnosis. (I don't expect a cure to a condition that is hardwired into my neuroanatomy. That just seems highly implausible.)
So, i saw my GP today. I asked him what he knows about ADHD..."not much, he said..."we dont diagnose it." I wish GM had that kind of honesty.
I'd be changing doctors immediately. Never heard something so out of touch.
@@crankin77 no, he is really a good Dr, and honest Dr. who spoke the truth.
@@robynhope219 Sorry I may have misunderstood your first msg. Are you suggesting your Dr knows about ADHD but doesn't diagnose as he doesn't see it?
@@crankin77 EVERYONE knows about ADHD...but GPs don't diagnose it...will refer to specialist.
People with adhd are not broken but we definitely inherit it from parents as I have it my dad definitely had it and both my kids have it, the best way to put it would be people with adhd are more active and less focused on tasks unless we enjoy or feel we must complete the task. We are also very emotionally in tact
I think Gabor Mate needs to do more research on the genetic makeup and mutations found in those with ADHD. Multiple studies have shown evidence.
Completely agree! I'm so glad to read your comment. Gabor Mate has no evidence to back his claims. Whereas there is an ever-growing body of peer reviewed evidence that disproves him!
He actually says that ADHD is a brain adaptation to an stressful environment in early brain development which it can originate as early as in the womb if I recall correctly. I suppose the right question here could perhaps be "what came first? The chicken or the egg?" meaning: What came first? The genetic adaptation or the stressful conditions?
I've personally met Gabor Maté few years ago and watched him in action dealing with someone who needed help and so I can tell you a couple of things about this phenomenal individual. For one, what you see is what you get. He is the same off camera. Selfless and compassionate. Secondly, he is so highly attuned to people and instantly pick up on who needs the most help out of a crowd of people. And last, he knows how to attend to them. I would highly recommend reading up on his work before before making any sort of judgment on it. His research has changed my life as well as my ability to better understand not just myself but my children as well. I'm a better person, friend, partner, and parent thanks to him.
@Tonje N I'm glad you have got so much from him. It by no means is an attack on him as a man. Im sure he is caring, compassionate, and charismatic! He has also made good progress in the field of addiction and trauma. However, my comment still stands. I'm a clinical psychologist, so I'm up to date on the peer reviewed literature on the possible origins of ADHD. He has absolutely no evidence (as in peer reviewed published journal papers) to back his theory. Therefore, it becomes his opinion only. Ps, just for the record, my comment was based on reading his material.
@@Scoobysue1977 So, by now, in 2023, i may hope it is well known carrying certain genes does not mean they will surely come to expression. We are walking epigenetic control cabinets. Mutations occur during life, not death; gee, i wonder why.
Also your "I'm a clinical psychologist, so I'm up to date on the peer reviewed literature on the possible origins of ADHD" gave me a good laugh, thank you for that.
@L v R you're welcome I'm glad it gave you a good laugh. It's good for the soul, especially in these times 😃 i did not mean to mention my profession in a condescending way, but you seemed to have taken it that way which was not my intention, it was to illustrate that I wasn't pulling ideas out of thin air. So, what are your thoughts on the origins then? I'm genuinely interested since my comment prompted you to call me out.
I always have to tell others, I don't take ADHD medication everyday because I don't require the focused push, but some days I do. The variability in not taking the medication helps me to to focus on building skillsets, to learn from how I was able to find ways to accomplish tasks I otherwise thought was impossible while on medication. While its so much more difficult without, I do believe I can complete more without medication because of how I take my medication. To each their own and communicate with your Doctor, but I also focus on improving my health, get into nature and keeps a more routine life, and keep working to improve sleep (VITAL). My ADHD I believe is family related and not all nurture, however I have had several Trauma and losses that I believe exacerbated the sensitivity I already possessed as a child. I still believe it is more genetic, but the environment has been worse (stress and trauma, poverty, increasing wealth gap, etc.) and detection has improved so hence more diagnoses. I also believe it's just a divergent characteristic in humans anyway as we are finding more across a spectrum with diagnosable traits and symptoms.
This makes a lot of sense about the extra sensitivity. Bullying through the years at school with no way to get away from it causes trauma, even if the home environment isn't causing it, especially with the amount of hours a child is at school now. Many spend more waking hours at school than at home.
I very much enjoyed this episode, as this is what I have been doing with my daughter making sure she exercises, eats well etc… Gratitude to you Dr Gabor Mate✨🙏🏾
nature calms the mind, I love that, because I had really been struggling with my adhd, I just went on a surf trip working remotely and I have never felt more at peace. I realise not everyone has the privilege or resources to travel, but such a mindful sport, combined with a peaceful environment were better then any of the medication I ever had.
Somebody once said " when you have a hammer in the hand, you begin to look at your environment as some nails to pin."
Dr Mate make a big work on child trauma, then every problems look like related to child trauma.
Same bias when you begin to look through the acknowledgement of ADD symptoms.
This is an amazing talk ..thank you ❤
I can’t agree more! Thank you so much for this beautiful explanation.
I got diagnosed with adhd when I was 16 kicked out of school was never good with education I am only good at things I 100% enjoy learning about also got diagnosed with ptsd my life is a massive struggle there needs to be more help for adults with adhd as it effects your life dramatically
I am now 23
I’ve watched a lot of carnivore lifestyle videos where they describe their mental clarity improved. Removing processed food from my diet at this time, hoping this helps me improve my life. Prayers for you!
ADHD almost ruined my life before I started taking my meds
Exactly. I hear you.
That's a shame. Ritalin was way worse on me than changing my lifestyle ever was. I even love my adhd tbh
Hard same. Saved my career
Try keto
@@mialeroux2943 you sure it’s adhd ?
love the last section where you overall lifestyle plus the inner work for psychological healing!
I agree with Andrew. The understanding of ADHD has evolved significantly since it was first described in 1798. Over the years, it has become one of the longest-known and extensively studied conditions in neurology. While the field has made substantial progress, ADHD remains a complex and nuanced neurodevelopmental condition, not without controversy.
It's important to acknowledge that ADHD is indeed a real and well-documented neurodevelopmental condition, with clear evidence of its impact visible on MRI scans. However, debates persist regarding the most effective approaches to its treatment and management.
Dr. Mate's perspective, while valuable in some aspects, may appear inconsistent to some. His emphasis on the role of stress and trauma in young individuals affecting brain development is grounded in scientific literature, highlighting the multifaceted nature of ADHD. However, it's crucial to note that ADHD is a neurodevelopmental condition with a genetic component, and brain development delay is just one facet of its etiology.
While Dr. Mate contends that medication cannot "heal" ADHD, it's essential to clarify that medication, such as stimulants or non-stimulants, is a recognized and effective method for managing symptoms, much like medication for other chronic conditions such as diabetes. Medication helps individuals with ADHD lead more functional lives by mitigating the impact of symptoms on daily functioning.
In summary, ADHD is a complex and lifelong neurodevelopmental condition, rooted in both genetic and environmental factors. While Dr. Mate's focus on the role of stress and trauma is valid, it's crucial to recognize the multifaceted nature of ADHD and the importance of various treatment modalities, including medication, in managing the condition and improving quality of life.
Just listening to the back catalogue 2020 of SB CEO now I have these youtube clips. Really enjoying the content. Great team behind this. I was diagnosed with ADHD at 39yrs old, I have to laugh though! Reading Johan Harri book about medication i feel meds help but then environmental factors massively play their part. Again Steve love the content thank you to you and the team 😊
IT'S THE environment you're in and the people around you that makes you a genius or go to prison, I love being happy but when around toxic behavior its worse, everyone thought I was crazy 🤪 I just thought I was naughty and had lots of guts, I got diagnosed in prison age 30 ,I cried my eyes out that finally I felt sort of normal and there was a reason I feel the way I do rather than not knowing, people think I have a personality disorder and maybe more but its what makes me me so sod it ,embrace it enjoy it. While you are on your hi, and sleep it off when on your low , have a great day , sorry for my grammar also dyslexia ffs 😆
Excellent self help mate good on you!
@@ariesred777 I'm still not there yet lol
Wow!!
I’m 62 & full on adhd had an an amazing but frustrating journey / career
So thankful I did not watch this 45 years ago
Your negative low vibe disturbs me I’m not hearing your words
For everyone else find your thing stop overanalysing & kick ass you really can 👍🏻x
I agree with you. I acknowledge what he says but once I had my ovaries removed and this took away dopamine my brain could not do executives functikna for 3 years. I took 1 dos of Dex and my brain was back.
So I think he js generalizing way way too much.
I have lived the way he speaks of. But loose estrogen!- executibe fx disorder
This explains me to a tee!!! I have even now in my 40s been able to bring out the super creative and high IQ (153) I was said to have in elementary school. I was super sensitive growing up and had a lot of trouble with social interactions because I was always so overwhelmed and emotional during confrontations. That I developed a coping
Mechanism of burying my emotions and didn't realize till started getting healthy in mY 30s. In my 40s I learned alot about the positive effects of psychedelics. I gotna routine of nootrooics and supplements and an organic Keto diet along with moving to a life that got me out doors every day I was able to fix a lot of my issues and now think clearer than I have my whole life at 46! This channel has been a game-changer for me. One of my favorites.
What are the nootropics that helped you
“Born broken?” Rank ableism in plain view.
Maté conveniently ignores the existence of genetically-linked disorders that also require an environmental trigger such as IBD.
Neurological differences like ADHD, autism and dyslexia are not mental illness, and they’re not caused by childhood trauma.
People with genetic differences don’t need to be “fixed,” but we do need support to function in a world that is not built for us. Shaming us by calling us “broken” is not doing anyone any favors.
Yeah the born broken bit really annoyed me, would he say that about a child born with physical disabilities then? It also narrates ADHD as being a purely negative condition which it is not, its just hard to have it and live in a world that requires us to be switched on to schedule all the time.
I'm not broken. A lot of my stuff is, but I'm not!
So what about people with C-PTSD that have the same symptoms as autism and adhd people?
I’ve been saying this for years! I was told I had adhd and knew intuitively after practicing deep long periods of meditation 20 years ago, my mind became clear and organized when residing in stillness. It’s like a layer of anxiety and a head filled with noise talking fast. I know it’s a direct result from the childhood trauma I endured . It’s like removing all the negative conditioning to see your beauty. I went to college right after in 2016 that could not keep up w my meditation practice and it’s back all the thoughts felt scattered and have issue w moving forward expressing my gifts feeling blocked. The only way back is doing deep inner work.
Hi, how long did it take you to become almost as effective as a normal person in day to day tasks after meditating?
Relaxing voice Gabor has
i am one of them, highly emotional child when i was young.. high energy family.. stress from everything.. still today i deal with it.. now i am 54.. and have read and learned.. and most of my kids are fine..
I was diagnosed in the 70's as a Hyperactive child. My mother controlled my behaviour with sugar....NONE. To this day, I continue to restrict sugar in my diet. I cannot drink a soft drink, lollies.....It all tastes tooooooo sweet for me...BONUS MUM...THANK YOU...X
I had a traumatic birth, and also suffered a head injury at 18 months of age. I dont think that helped me...lol I have never taken one drug prescribed by doctors. Thank you Mum...xxx
Focus, or brain activity is supported by the food you eat, meditation practises, and sleep.
Finally someone who links diet to health issues. Get off of sugar and grains and see if you don't make great strides towards optimal health including brain health.
Wow… this is eye opening, I can relate to everything Gabor has said. I was diagnosed at 32, one of my parents had a very stressful childhood (physical and mental abuse) I witnessed their breakdown as a child. I have inattentive type, this makes sense to me 😮.
My children appear to have issues surrounding sensory needs, the sensitivity thing just makes sense… I wonder has anyone else just seen this and can relate like I can?
I’m medicated as an adult but I have recently found I’m struggling with the everyday stresses again, the dose goes up but it is just temporary. Surely it would be better for clinicians to focus on treating the route cause rather than numbing the sensitivities with expensive medication that can have awful side effects. Notably no.1 on the list of side effects sudden death and heart problems.
Get off medication and look up IOPT trauma therapy pioneered by franz Rupert - connect with the body daily and release the trauma
Sudden death and heart attacks for unresolved mental heath issues? Diabetes and obesity for unresolved issues seem to be the result of underyling, core, mental health issues.
Quick...more meds! Our Medical System is BROKEN . COVID is telling us this reality!
The problem with this very good idea is that clinicians are psychiatrists, and are not trained in much other than pharmacology. They are not trained in healing emotional problems.
@@truerosie i completely agree with this. They just throw meds at you and expect the rest to be ok.
Mate is a fraud though. He lies about his credentials, he never specialized in neurology or mental health. His theories are all garbage and have been repeatedly debunked. He's just a grifter preying on people like us.
Without taking away anything from the doctor’s insights, the main causes of ADHD can be seen in the main differences in the way children are brought up now versus 40 years ago: 1) lack of exercise / roughhousing (necessary to for proper brain development and body development - which need these), 2) non-stop engagement with computers / smart phones and the whole on-line social environment, which works against point 1, and 3) single parent mothers unable to create a non-stressful environment for their children. Lower economic bracket is not the reason; generations around the world grew up poor, but without these problems - because they had solid family life growing up. You can’t get to a resolution to this problem if you are unable to look squarely at it and understand the actual causes.
If I have to write a book or articulate myself, there will be no difference from how he's illustrated on the matter - in this video. He's absolutely spot on. No one can hit the nail on the head harder than this.
I don't get it. He's not saying anything new that you wouldn't find formulated in other's authoritative presentations like Dr. Russel. The stress adaptation can be true but it's also true that it will manifest in the genes thru epigenetics. Those are known to potentially be multigenerational environmental stress induced adaptations. Therefore, ADHD can be genetically acquired. We know that TBI amongst other things can induce ADHD to adults.
This is why I hate it when people of a huge influence talk about things they're not really familiar with. "Big Gabor Mate said so" will be the conclusion but he even contradicted himself... He says "they didn't inherit anything" and then he says "they inherited sensitivity"... All right mister, call it however you want, it has the wrong name already anyway!
He said they didn't inherit genes.
@@SunnyGirlFlorida How could they not inherit genes? That's what we inherit and everything is in it. If we inherited sensitivity, that sensitivity is also in our genes.
@@Hugo-dc9nd Huge you midwit, he implied the inheretance was through nurture, not nature. Intergenerational trauma.
I was diagnosed at about 20. $400 for the first and only session with the psychiatrist. Waiting room was packed. I doubt anyone walked out without a diagnosis. We all wanted to be prescribed stimulants, and Doctor probably doubled his salary that year. He could not have given a shit about our long term health or wellbeing. He was obviously at a point in his career where he saw the opportunity to cash in and took it. Can’t even blame the guy really.
I really appreciate this convsation! I will definitely be reading the book!
Excellence all around: excellent interviewer, excellent interviewere.
Microdosing psilocybin was my way to health. Blessings from Danmark, 47 year old socoalworker, woman.
im glad i helped
seriously tho i wish i could do this legally and easily in my country
has this cured your adhd?
Are you also impulsive and swearing and interrupting others, not able to listen?
my parents didnt have childhood trauma
my parents werent stressed financially in any way
i had a supportive, healthy enviroment around me growing up
i dont have childhood trauma
im not stressed
i have adhd
wat now?
Not dopamine-addiction caused?
@@mouwersor wat in the world?
@yawn...dig deeper
i was diagnosed at 8 because i was hyperactivie and couldn’t sit still like how he described most young boys does, at 12 i took medicine but for some reason i stopped taking it as my parents say i felt emotionless. I have memory loss so i don’t remember many things from my childhood. all i can remember is i was an unwanted child around my cirlcle wherever i go. with high school i learned how to mask and could create an environment that i could have friends. still at the end of the day i had a rough childhood. today im trying to find who i was before i learned to mask the little girl i used to be. i’m fighting with high level of anxiety with a professional help.
Why position adhd as being broken?
Girls also are socialized to be quiet, sweet and respectful. It is normalized for boys to be a bit more destructive but kids with adhd have more issues with impulsivity and hyperactivity and will therefore be more disruptive
I’m a fan of Gabor but I do not agree with him here at all. Sure, there is no evidence that taking medication cures ADHD. But there is also no evidence that wearing reading glasses cures your eyesight problems either, but I still need to wear them to read!
Taking adderall absolutely helps my brain focus. I was diagnosed with ADHD at 49. The very first time I took my medication, I felt the difference. And my first reaction was that I got angry… because for the first time I became aware of how much extra effort it took me to do EVERYTHING compared to more neurotypical people.
Now, is it possible that my brain could form new neural pathways that make it easier to focus, eventually allowing me to stop taking medication? Sure. But if taking the medication is what allows me to act in such a way that causes those new neural pathways to form, than even though the medication didn’t “heal” the ADHD, it still will have contributed to the improvements.
Amen! 😊
I was "diagnosed" with adhd in 1999 when i was 6 and my parents were divorcing and fighting all the time. Then my mom left me with my drug addicted father for a year (first grade). And they wondered why i couldn't focus on useless school crap? I was on survival mode. My mother was prideful and wouldn't allow me to be medicated but i wasn't helped either. I'd often be berated about how i was such an awful student. Even as an adult out of school she'd love to tell people about how i was the worst student ever🙄🙄🙄for the record i wasn't. I'm an artist.
As a teacher in the US I am scared of my working colleagues recommending parents to medicate students that they cannot control. How easy we can change the life of a kid. In my conferences with parents I always speak about what this expert says at the end: good food, take the kid outside more, practice sports…don’t take the easy way so fast.
I live in NJ I’m the US. I work as a paraprofessional. I am working with the special-needs children. But I can tell you 100% and there are strict with it in my town and all the towns around me. And they really get so anal about it and then you’re scared to say anything. But the teachers are not allowed to say anything even if they think your child is ADHD or autistic or on the spectrum etc. They would get fired, which is ridiculous because certain things I don’t like ADHD or OCD, which I also have a teacher would be the one to notice more. She’s with the kids 10 months out of the year old are you in her classroom. And then the child study comes in maybe once a week but I’m not even sure if they’re allowed to tell the parents it’s very strict here with that. So at the conferences they just saying with the kids doing and all that I am showing what she needs help with. I know when
I totally get why a teacher wouldn’t be allowed or want to tell somebody they think their child is autistic or something kind of a serious disease, so where this kid is going to be nonverbal his whole life. A lot of more I have to say living with their parents and I can’t live on their own. Of course some Cana depends on what the diagnosis is. OK bye I’m babbling on 😂
@@Chippy88it is very hard to read and understand your comment. Could you fix the grammar? And restructure your sentences so we know what you're talking about. Thank you kindly
@@mareezy
I am sorry you know what I did. I spoke into the phone and I didn’t check it before I sent it. So yes, I will edit it
@@mareezy
I went through some and found a couple of misspelled words or things that did not make sense. That’s why I have to sometimes turn off my talk to text because even my friends want to kill me. And there you go because of my ADHD it’s just easier and quicker to talk into the phone. I don’t check it before I send it most of the time because I don’t want to take the time to look it over. As you know with ADHD, you act before your mind processes what you’re gonna say or do or you just simply ask before you think. So I’ve been writing so much in this, and I actually appreciate you letting me know that. I fix some that I saw, but if you could kindly let me know which ones good use correction that would be great! But I can tell you don’t expect i Reconstructed perfect sentences. Lol not just because I can care less about any of that in school and of course I do know how to have a good grammar etc. when needed. But talking about this and seeing different comments, things I say, are going to be all over the place . Thank you
Sometimes there are no other options. We’re non GMO, no dyes, no high fructose corn syrup and extremely moderate sugar household. We grow our own vegetables and avoid fast food. My kids do sports and have near endless time outdoors and very little screen time. All of this and one of my kids is still exceptionally difficult to maintain. He absolutely cannot sit still, even as a baby. He struggles to stay on fast for more than 2-3 minutes, he immediately shuts down if he’s told to do anything. For example, He can be excited to take a bubble bath all day and as soon as I tell him to take a bath, it’s immediate expressionless shut down. No moving, no talking, just essentially glaring at you as if to dare you to make him do it. We can work around it at home by phrasing it as a choice, but at school it has been awful. I was getting notes home daily. Always the same thing, he’s bright but won’t do his work, he knows what is expected, but won’t sit in his desk and is constantly distracted and disruptive. He talks constantly and is negatively influencing others to talk during inappropriate times. He is capable of doing his work and does it correctly, but he will only do it if I sit with him and essentially force him to do it.
I tried everything I could before resorting to medication, but medicating him has made a huge difference for him. He can focus, he stays on task, he’s less argumentative, he’s no longer disrupting class. Most importantly, he’s happier. He’s less frustrated and more confident in himself because now he’s making good grades and excelling at sports. He discovered a love of reading Bebe can sit still long enough to finish a chapter.
I don’t and have never expected perfection, but seeing him struggle less and feel better about himself is worth everything to me.
62 years old, labelled the naughty girl in school and by my mother, insulted because my lack of concentration span on any academic subject wasnt expected as normal. Give me something that i like to do and you cannot break me away from it until satisfied, hence im an artist. Im not into labels, but having done research on ADHD and being able to relate to most of the symptoms has made me feel all of a sudden acceptable in society, so, i wear the label in order to finally be acepted for being me. What if being me is already normal, just was never channeled with the right support and encouragement just because of an old fashioned system.
Diagnosed with ADHD at 35. Waited to see if medication was the route. It hasn't been, and I'm glad and relieved. This was probably the best podcast and approaches for this process and understanding about the route to take in this sphere of ADD/ADHD and trauma that I've heard. Thank you.
So what are you saying,how can we help ourself instead of medicine?
medication for ADHD is not the route, you might as well be taking crack. its the same. and the inability to relieve the symptoms of ADHD is the same
@@vz7742 Yeah, don't see it as the only avenue. Take your time in understanding what the pros and cons are for you. This is my way of handling what I was diagnosed with. And I don't think the diagnosis alone was all I fit the criteria for. But I decided against looking further.
@@pujatelicreative So what do you do,to help yourself ease problems with ADHD. Do you meditate? Im having problems with reading one page,or listening to people talk to me,i cant follow what are they saying :x
@@vz7742 I started yoga recently, and am an avid walker. I look after my food ensuring I get my protein in. I ensure I eat first thing. You have to listen to your own body and work out how it works, and not fight it. I read daily. I put on noise cancelling headphones and brown noise so it helps focus. If I struggle reading, I will accept it's not happening. Telling people also matters, because then they are aware at least. Just don't be a victim of it. It's your normal. It helped me decide I am much more suited to project work and makes sense why in my career I always burnt out, and couldn't do a 9-5. Overall, just take the time to understand what works for you.
Iv always had a feeling there are environmental factors at play when it comes to adhd but i think to say its solely down to childhood trauma seems wrong to me.
::: It’s a modern disease. Look into epigenetics, how our bodies respond and cope with environmental stress, like pollution. We are all being poisoned by what we consume - air, food, water, and what is injected into our bloodstream; where normal filters can’t protect us from harm. We are what we eat.
Also, please find videos from Dr. Russell Blaylock, who coined the term, “excitotoxins”.
thank you for the great content!
Women and girls are hugely under diagnosed. I was diagnosed at 46 and so much makes sense now.
what an excuse for life failure
I disagree, perhaps for your generation. But in this current generation it’s the opposite. Currently overdiagnosed particularly in women.
I have ADHD and yes I am broken. I’ve been failed by my family and school
Thank you for this!❤❤❤