RISE OF NU METAL

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  • Опубліковано 30 жов 2024

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  • @billyboy7374
    @billyboy7374 7 місяців тому +9

    Great video, and what an underrated channel this is. You and this guy named Joe Nose are my favorite music documentary type channels on youtube 👍

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому +2

      Glad you enjoyed it! I appreciate it a lot! Thank you!

    • @BenjaminMichaelNedland-H-nx8ml
      @BenjaminMichaelNedland-H-nx8ml 7 місяців тому

      Damn bro why dissed Flaw like that 0:46 compering them to primer and coal chamer and they debut in 1996 even colder than limpbizkit

    • @BenjaminMichaelNedland-H-nx8ml
      @BenjaminMichaelNedland-H-nx8ml 7 місяців тому

      Albums not on Spotify tho

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому

      Hmm… honestly it’s not that it’s a diss. It’s just not an A Tier Nu Metal band. There can only be so many at the top. I didn’t listen to entire discographies of every band but I can see in hind sight that a lot of these bands just did not introduce much new in terms of sound and jumped on the band wagon. They weren’t there coming up with cool new things like Korn and Deftones did. Even Bizkit brought their own flavour by adding a Dj, rapping a lot more and Wes obviously sounded super unique. So yuh no offense really

    • @BenjaminMichaelNedland-H-nx8ml
      @BenjaminMichaelNedland-H-nx8ml 7 місяців тому

      @@saysthemanbehindthemaskalleast i can give them cred for doing some of the butt rock. nu metal before bands like disturbed, godsmack and sevendust came out

  • @sleepycatz101
    @sleepycatz101 7 місяців тому +3

    It's only thanks to my parents that i fell in love with Nu Metal. My mom owned a copy of Linkin Park's Hybrid Theory and my dad would play their songs on the car radio. It was because of them that i started to branch out and by sharing music with friends I discovered more great bands like Deftones and Korn. It's my favorite genre and that's not gonna change anytime soon.

  • @TrapToise
    @TrapToise 7 місяців тому +5

    Thank you so much for creating this series, and alongside the rise and fall of nu metal series. It’s so nice to hear such a unbiased and objectively factual perspective on this era in metal music without someone having snarky or sarcastically hateful replies taking jabs at the genre or bands while discussing this topic. It’s refreshing to hear someone research this style of music without some fueled negativity towards it on top but instead showing it’s true impacts and significance that is deserved towards it. For me it’s without a doubt one of my favorite sounds in music period, there’s so many bands with such styles and aspects they offer to the table all individually, even those that are not the biggest name within the genre. There’s so many more names that were so good and talented in their own right outside the big 6 as well, which I highly encourage those out there to explore. What a turnaround this sound has had between generations and its reputation it’s certainly a welcomed one and I’m glad to see it finally getting recognition positively! Thank you so much for your work on these research videos, as far as I’m concerned some of the best pieces of content online available for Nu Metal’s history.

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому +1

      Thank you very much for such a detailed description of your pov towards my content. This direction for the Rise and fall series and my general view of Nu Metal on this channel felt quite natural even when I started to post back in 2016. First 2 videos were on Chino and Jonathan Davis with Rise of Nu Metal starting in 2017. As I mentioned several times in my videos Nu Metal is where it started for me and it did have a significant impact in my formative years as well as on my life in general. It would have been different without music that's for sure. I appreciate the support always. Thank you for watching!

  • @marceloguerra1421
    @marceloguerra1421 7 місяців тому +4

    thanks youtube for recommending me this stuff, huge! +1 subscriber

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому +1

      No thank YOU for watching and especially for subscribing. I appreciate it a lot!

  • @brucanthwood
    @brucanthwood 7 місяців тому +5

    Good stuff!

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому +2

      Thank you very much! I appreciate it. Thanks for watching for so many years.

  • @ccomega929
    @ccomega929 3 місяці тому +1

    one nu metal i recently came back around to is Limp Bizkit, i love that band, also woodstock wasn't their fault

  • @ArkaeaFCL3
    @ArkaeaFCL3 7 місяців тому +3

    Dude! You're back! Where have you been?!

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому +1

      Hey! Yuh, kind of lol. I was dealing with life basically while doing this video on the side. This one took a long time to make because I couldn't dedicate as much time as I would have liked to and some rewrites of the script were in order. You doing well?

    • @ArkaeaFCL3
      @ArkaeaFCL3 7 місяців тому

      @@saysthemanbehindthemask I definitely feel ya, there man. I'm hanging in there. Life has it's ups and downs, ya know? But, I'm glad you were able to release this! Very well done video! 🤘🤘❤

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому +1

      Yuh it's just how life goes I guess. I appreciate the support and am glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you for watching as always!

  • @jobananas3052
    @jobananas3052 7 місяців тому +1

    I think a big part of it was those 2 Woodstock 99 doc's and people being like "damn that looks lit" lmao.

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому

      Yuh it looked pretty impressive needles to say. But being there was not so fun for each individual. As the Documentaries addressed.

  • @SubArchitectDJ
    @SubArchitectDJ 7 місяців тому +1

    Welcome back dude

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому

      Hey! Well thank you very much! Good to be back! How have you been?

    • @SubArchitectDJ
      @SubArchitectDJ 7 місяців тому

      @@saysthemanbehindthemask Eh, up and down. Life is complicated. Been wondering when your next video would appear

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому

      Yuh, same same. Been some tough times for the past 2 years which is kinda long… thus the upload schedule is basically nonexistent. But thanks for not giving up on this channel!

    • @SubArchitectDJ
      @SubArchitectDJ 7 місяців тому

      @@saysthemanbehindthemask ah it's all good man. I'll be patiently waiting for more stuff from you

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for the support as always. And hopefully things will be looking up for you

  • @stonerro
    @stonerro 7 місяців тому +1

    numetal is the biggest of metal!!

  • @metalmike6668
    @metalmike6668 7 місяців тому +2

    (hed) p.e. was the first nu metal rap metal band. way before limp bizkit

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому

      Okay. I never said Limp Bizkit was the first. Just to clarify I decided to speak about the biggest Nu Metal bands not who was first at anything

    • @metalmike6668
      @metalmike6668 7 місяців тому

      @@saysthemanbehindthemask biggest nu-metal bands ? easy
      linkin park
      korn
      limp bizkit
      system of a down
      slipknot
      deftones
      disturbed
      best 5:
      (hed) p.e.
      korn
      linkin park
      system of a down
      limp bizkit

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому

      Biggest. Agreed. With me talking about 6 in this video out of seven you mentioned. Best is very much a matter of preference. (Hed) p.e. I personally never found very appealing

  • @josamaroo
    @josamaroo 7 місяців тому +2

    Whoever says that Nu-Metal isn't really metal is just plain stupid. Hair Metal and even New Wave of British Heavy Metal aren't nearly as much metal as Nu-Metal because Nu-Metal has screaming and growling vocals, double kick bass drums, and tuned-down guitars which are all part of being a modern metal band. Think of the biggest metal bands of the 90's before Nu-Metal, trust me there's not very many legitimate metal bands, and then think about Korn's self-titled debut and that album is heavier than 95% of all the metal being produced around 1994. Bands that are considered metal but not Nu-Metal and were formed or popular around 94 include Pantera, Alice In Chains, Tool, NIN, Slayer, Danzig, Rage Against The Machine, Soundgarden, Faith No More and of course Metallica are the main bands that come to mind and half of them I wouldn't even consider as being Metal. My point is Nu-Metal is way more metal than a large portion of bands that are considered metal. It's probably the turntables and/or rap vocals that make people question the legitimacy of Nu-Metal but maybe half of the big bands included those things and they used them to try to stand out or enhance the music. They still include all of the other main necessities that are needed in order to be a Nu-Metal band so they are still considered metal.
    Lastly, I just want to say that in my opinion, and I've been listening and following Nu-Metal since the beginning, that Disturbed should be in the Top 6 and unfortunately Deftones shouldn't be included. Disturbed has had longevity and has out-sold Deftones so I don't think there's really an argument there. Also they are probably the most relevant and popular Nu-Metal band that is still going strong despite gaining popularity 25 years ago. Disturbed rose to fame right at the turn of the new millennium and during the 2nd huge wave of Nu-Metal bands that included Slipknot, System of a Down, Linkin Park, Papa Roach, P.O.D., Drowning Pool, MuDvAyNe, and Evanescence just to name a few so I feel like they got overshadowed a bit but unlike most of their counterparts they've been able to maintain and adapt over the years so much so that they just had one of their most successful tours in 2023. Deftones on the other hand have steered clear of the Nu-Metal spectrum since White Pony which means at this point they have more non-Nu-Metal albums so there's really no point in including them in the Top 6. I really enjoy these videos because Nu-Metal has been the soundtrack of my life, especially my youth, and Family Values Tour 98 was my first concert when I was 15 years old so I love Nu-Metal and I will always defend it.

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому

      Nu metal is definitely metal I agree with that. As for Disturbed they would make the top 10 and in this case probably number 7. But you’d be hard pressed to find them in any top list publication above any band I chose for the big 6. And I personally never found them appealing, unique or that influential. David has a distinct voice, yes. but their music is not that original or influential. You will struggle to find a modern metal band that would say that Disturbed influenced them. While the same could be said about SOAD, they have a very unique sound. And every other band heavily influenced modern metal scene. From Korn to Slipknot and LP. While LB’s influence is not heard that much they were unique and were on top of the scene along with Korn at the peak of Nu Metal’s popularity. The were more mainstream than anyone else on the scene before LP came along. While Deftones’ influence is heard all over in modern metal with Sleep Token being referred to as modern day Deftones in sense of their groove and for a lack of better words “sexy vocals”. Deftones has not been Nu Metal for a while yes, but they cannot be ignored because as I spoke in the video they are very much leading the recent rise of Nu metal’s popularity. And the rest of the bands that garner the attention by extension are all the other more obvious Nu Metal bands. This is not by chance because the fan bases of all these bands overlap a lot and they have shared the same stages for many years and that’s also for a reason. As well as their appearance on the top bill of Sick New World along with Korn and SOAD. Their popularity has grown the most among these 6 bands. All the other bands have mostly doubled in streams on Spotify over the past 5 years while Deftones did 5x. That’s huge for a relatively niche band. So I’d find it rather neglectful not to mention them in the context of this video. To be fair the only two bands that truly stuck with the Nu Metal sound is LB and Korn. Everyone else including Disturbed mentioned several times in interviews that they don’t consider themselves as Nu Metal. LP, Slipknot and Deftones all drifted away from the Nu Metal sound over the years but their biggest records to this day are still the ones that are considered Nu Metal records. With Deftones’ White Pony being an exception but even then their record label forced them to re-release the album with Back To School on the album which is very much a Nu Metal song. So Nu Metal’s influence is still in their discography in 2000. SOAD has not released any records for ages so it’s hard to discuss them in this context. But they would be even less Nu Metal than Deftones imho. I have dedicated series on my channel where I talk all about that moment when most Nu Metal bands started to drift away from the Nu Metal sound consciously. The period I mainly focused on in THIS video was the peak of Nu Metal’s popularity of late 90’s and early 00’s I believe I mentioned that in the video. If I would go into how Nu Metal bands stopped being Nu Metal that would make the video title Rise and fall and Rise of Nu Metal. I skipped that fall off period and focused on 2 periods peak of Nu Metal and its recent return to fame. This was my thought process when making this video. Thanks for a thoughtful comment.

  • @Rusli1659LPSoldier
    @Rusli1659LPSoldier 7 місяців тому

    22:24 by any chance making the UA-cam playlist in order on the music video you just listed on the left? i would like to find it.

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому

      This is the link to the playlist of videos I consider to be the best on my channel >> ua-cam.com/play/PLJtA5BUS28OO5IpKX0BvT1Ug4XCZavkMA.html&si=yND64Dns9vWJfxtH
      There’s also an end screen at the end of this video where you can find 4 videos I was talking about. Judging by your avatar LP content should be interesting for you. I have covered their Hybrid Theory album in depth when anniversary edition was released. I as well made several videos on Chester’s voice and a video on the Queen of the Damned ost which Chester was also a part of. There’s more older videos which you can find on my channel in the videos section. Thank you for showing interest in my content

    • @Rusli1659LPSoldier
      @Rusli1659LPSoldier 7 місяців тому

      @@saysthemanbehindthemask ok thanks. like Dude, Meteora was timeless, Lost was a great song but reminds me basically Numb and In The End combined.

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому

      Yuh, Meteora was great. Unfortunately at this point I had no chance to talk about that album. Hopefully will do in the near future. Lost was great. Old school Linkin Park

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  7 місяців тому

      Oh damn! I read your comment again and just realised what you were talking about. No I don't have that music video playlist. Your best bet is to take that screenshot and find them on YT. These days smartphones can actually copy text from a picture. So that might be the fastest way to find them all. Good luck

    • @Rusli1659LPSoldier
      @Rusli1659LPSoldier 7 місяців тому

      @@saysthemanbehindthemask it's all good man, no worries. I hope someone should create the playlist with the exact same list at the end in chronological order of these bands.

  • @yourfriend9048
    @yourfriend9048 5 місяців тому

    deftones is not nu-metal.
    just a coincidence of the time.
    everyone gets this wrong.

    • @saysthemanbehindthemask
      @saysthemanbehindthemask  5 місяців тому

      Of course EVERYONE gets it wrong except you. Been making these videos for a while now and by now I’ve realised that majority have come to a consensus that Adrenaline and ATF are very much Nu metal with White Pony having back to school can be included into this category as well… but that’s when they stepped away from the sound. The reason Chino is on the thumbnail is that Deftones’s popularity grew a lot (their numbers on Spotify did a 5x in the past 5 years if I recall correctly) and as mentioned in the video they are THE band that gets Gen z into Nu Metal. Anyway the point of this video is not about Deftones being Nu Metal or not

    • @yourfriend9048
      @yourfriend9048 5 місяців тому +1

      @@saysthemanbehindthemask Touche.