"intelligence is giving the bad news to the person as fast as possible.. wisdom is to give time for that person to accept it" One wants things to work out quickly and have progress, the other takes its time cause it knows that this might affect future events of that person badly
You reminded me of what Theodore Roosevelt said about thieves. He said, "A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad".
“Unintelligent people are more easily mislead by other people, while intelligent people are more easily mislead by themselves.” The fact that I didn’t realize this earlier is eye opening. Wow
I don't think there is much truth to this because it doesn't really fit the evidence, so it makes sense that you would not have realized it. People are social and tend to form groups. These groups use identity markers including speech patterns, specific beliefs, and actions to try to weed out people who aren't truly part of their group. This used to be a matter of survival, but now it just means people pick a social group, then change their beliefs based on their group. This is true for everyone. People who have practiced critical thinking skill in a wide variety of scenarios and who understand how to read statistics and studies, and are wiling to go to the effort of trying to prove themselves wrong will have some ability to escape this. These will almost always be intelligent people who value knowing the truth.
@@LEgregius It's not regular intellectuals who are prone to this, but rather those who get fame and clout. For example Jordan Peterson, he used to be scientific and humble, but then it spiraled down straight to science denial with fame and ego boosts.
@@LEgregius it's strange because I personally can't relate to any one social group a hundred percent but have picked up certain thoughts and behaviors from various groups, which makes me paradoxically able to talk to almost anyone
I love admitting I was wrong about something. It's very powerful, because what can you be accused of? Let someone know when you were wrong about something, or if they were right about something. Not being able to do so is weak.
I don’t think ‘love being wrong’ is the correct approach. Stand by what you believe in and if people are trying to persuade you then you counter with facts rather than rhetoric. Enjoy talking to people with varying points and trying to find middle ground is probably what the logical people should be focused on. Regrettably it’ll be the logical people that have to do this - if we are successful we can begin to turn the tide.
Being capable of assuming a mistake and even thanking the one for pointing out requires another type of intelligence. Emotional and social intelligence. Because the Ego can get hurt and people on average do not want to feel pain. Including the emotional realization they made a mistake
I don't know, look at politics. Why don't anyone ever admit mistakes no matter how obvious it is that they made one? Probably because history tells us they are punished harder at the ballot when they do than when they don't. So is it weakness to deny mistakes? Is it intelligence? Or it simply a case of cause and effect? I don't know. But i suspect that If we started rewarding leaders for admitting to and correcting mistakes instead of punishing them, then maybe, just maybe, we would start to see more of them do it. Smart or dumb, one thing you can always trust them to do is to act in their own self interest, so if you make their interests your interests, everybody should win, in theory.
Makes sense why colleges are the hotspots for the ideology I can't name cause my comment will be deleted. College/university is the biggest scam of the past 50 years. Anybody who is college educated will have a very hard time believing they're only smart in the subject they got their education in, while in other subjects they're not any smarter than a truck driver. I'm using truck drivers as an example because they are pretty much the punching bag for intellectuals.
Makes sense why colleges are the hotspots for the ideology I can't name cause my comment will be deleted. College/university is the biggest sham of the past 50 years. Anybody who is college educated will have a very hard time believing they're only smart in the subject they got their education in, while in other subjects they're not any smarter than a truck driver. I'm using truck drivers as an example because they are pretty much the "example" intellectuals keep using when describing lesser people.
"Without the right personal qualities, more education won't make you a master of your biases, it will only make you a better servant of them." Wow! That is so well said!
Yet sadly so many on here are too blinkered, too obsessed with buzzwords they hear their peers saying, but don't seriously care to enlighten themselves or question any thing they believe in, change is never easy in the beginning but we adapt.
So glad to see that you think of yourself as so well-spoken. (You did, however, put it in quotes, so, are we to assume it's not YOUR quote?) If so, who's is it, then?
Intelligence it's only measured with IQ. Wich it's problem solving focused. Howrever there are types of intelligence. Social. Phyloaophical and emotional intelligence. This if underdeveloped can create this paradoxx where a high IQ person it's dumb enough to think hks opinion it's better because he knows he has a high IQ
I guess it depends on the definition of humble, but if humble is the opposite of arrogant (downplaying your capability) it is equally wrong as arrogance, and the right way is simply sticking to reality and the truth to the best of your abilities.
Nobody was conflating the two, and you have not provided a definition for either, so this statement is as meaningless and stupid as I presume you to be
For about 5 years, I fell for everything one party would say… and then I studied both sides and fell for what both believed. The only difference now, I go find why propaganda wants us to believe and who funds it.
I grew up Republican In SoCal... flipped when I saw folks losing their life savings and increase of biases. I've been a centrist for better part of 20 years. Voting in the best interest of the community I live in... my military life taught me that most folks want the same things regardless of where they live... the major issue with extreme left or right is the lack of critical thinking and self-interest vs. communal needs. Individualism failed to teach people to work on and love themselves (EQ), and instead, egoism has taken over. People who argue, only want to be right to assert their individuality (ei. Belong to a group) instead of learning to find common ground and truth. People lie to themselves a lot, unfortunately (cognitive dissonance).
Intelligence Quotient needs to be separated into 3 categories. 1. Potential Intelligence Quotient (tested) 2. Applied Intelligence Quotient 3. Disabled Pattern Recognition (as applied to specific topics) In other words, pattern recognition is the most prominent factor in a high IQ. Various buzzwords and their psychology are designed to disable pattern recognition about certain topics: Ray SIs. T. Home O. Fobe ANT I SEAM IT ICK! *(most notably) With your pattern recognition *(the highest IQ trait) disabled about these topics, your Applied Intelligence Quotient goes down. You will be unable to consider Krym stats of one people, bad touch rates of the next concerning children, and Mah Phia movements of the last, who are the brains of this Horde.
That's the THE DIVINE LAW OF PRECLUSION in action.. but most of you are too closed off/blocked and/or arrogant to have ever EVEN HEARD of this immutable law.
I once had a huge s..t storm in my company, just because I asked a cutomer some really normal questions (at least normal for me). But then I was stormed by my superior, that I was wrong, because I did it so openly and showed everyone that a helpdesk doesn't know the subject... Yeah... It is difficult in the beginning to admit you don't know something. It needs to be trained, especially after being schooled all the time to "look like you are correct". It's hard, and just like After School stated - you have to remind yourself to be curious, no matter how others will think about it.
Sadly for many humans ego, vanity and fear of the unknown gets in the way. Hence faith in the unproven, for the things we don't yet comprehend, or some will never be capable of understanding there is faith based on delusion for comfort.
@@timhallas4275While you are right.. that's not how it works. I teach the universe. Free-will specifically means you are allowed to feel FALSEHOOD and TRAUMA and other ERROR in your subconscious/half-soul as TRUTH. That is literally what free-will is. - The Earth experience in general is VALID-BUT-FALSE. The experience consists of emotions so has validity.. but they are not true so that experience will be degraded over time.. just as you yourself will kill your own physical body over time by being ignorant and out of alignment with divine forces of LOVE and TRUTH. All things TRUE/LOVING (from divine perspective not mans) do not degrade and such worlds exist multiple spheres above where Earth collective consciousness resides
i was arguing with someone awhile back. he asked, " If you were wrong, would you want to know? if you're honest, explain to me what it would take to change your mind?". broke me as a young man. Now I ask myself that all the time, when examining my own beliefs. I also use those same two questions anytime someone wants to argue or debate. if they can't answer those questions sincerely, i just shake my head and say, " i understand." That has saved me a lot of time and frustration. 👍
ohhhhh good questions.. I had to put a comma in the second one to understand but my first thought was to pose them to my daughter since our beliefs are very different but then I had to stop and put them to myself.. this is going to take some thought.
@@planetvegan7843 bleh if you mean me, I tried not eating meat after a traumatic death but I'm a carnivore. My niece said I eat steak like an alligator =))
Me too my grandpa used to say if u were completely wrong would u want to know? and I always try really hard to understand the other sides opinions and views I really do. And I'm not afraid to admit there are some things I'm on the fence about. We're all still learning we never stop learning and who knows something could happen in one of our lives that could change our whole outlooks, ya know
I watched a vid the other day with Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens and others. Someone from the audience was challenging them, kind of poorly. He was essentially being ridiculed because "facts are unfair". At the end I figured out Kirk, Owens and the others were interested in "winning debate", while the audience member was interested in learning the (whole) truth.
I don't know the video you mentioned but I'm not a fan of Owens because she comes across as very arrogant. She loves to say how right she is etc. That's not to say she's wrong about anything, I agree with much of what I've heard her say but she doesn't need to be constantly saying how great she is.
I think it's, "Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it." ~ Andre Gide. He won the Nobel Prize in literature in 1947. I liked your quote enough to seek the truth about it. True story. Trust me!
@@mcfarvo 😄 I knew I'd heard that quote or something close, but couldn't remember anything else about it. DuckDuckGo claimed to know that Bookbrowse>quotes knew all about it. I'm just a humble messenger of those claims. 👼
Our modern education system stifles curiosity. When I was in school, in the 1970's, we were taught to question everything, if not by our teachers, by our peers. This was an off-shoot of the 1960's, where "question authority" was a mantra. I find that young people now have little curiosity to question what they are taught. This is a credit, and I mean that negatively, to our educational system, where they have learned to prey on young people's naivety and idealism. As a result, maturity and common sense has been delayed and sometimes completely shut down in millions of people.
In college you are taught to memorize and to give back the answers that your teachers want. Except within very strict parameters you are penalized for wondering if something is really true, for questioning revealed truths or for independent thinking.
@@ankhpom9296 modern public schooling was originally for producing workers for industry - "purpose of school turned more toward economic development " (Industrial Revolution) -- dumbing down isn't a recent thing. The methods and masks used are the only real change.
Yup.. agree.. learn to take the L.. i think is the best thing.. we don’t always have to be right… and we should question everything its how we get better as a whole.. and if you’re right all the time.. mmmm you’re starting to resemble a certain moustache man
I had a client who was born in the late 1920's and grew up in depression and ww2 as a child. She grew up in hardship and after the war she went into nursing. When I asked her why, she replied ; during the war we saw pow's marched through the town. They built roads and bridges and were welcoming to chat with residents. They talked about family back home and how they were only doing what they were told. She could see ( she left school with no qualifications) that nursing was a benefit to humanity and such we are no different. She became the first woman in the SW of England to be promoted to a managerial career in the nhs as top dog of nursing . She was wise, level headed and sharp as a tack even when she died a few years ago. She put it down to the fact that as a child she was hungry all the time. Christmas was just another day. And once you realise that only you can change the situation you are in, you only have yourself to blame if you stay that way. She landed up marrying a German pow. It's strange, she had seen life not from tv but lived it, her stories were like straight to the point, no BS and not filtered. She was brought up to hate Germans, but married one and she was the first person to tell me the propaganda was despicable during WW2 that she could see through it. For the record, her garden was exceptional and she knew the common and botanical names of every plant in her garden. She died in 2022 and her memory lives on by me talking about her. My point is, she was wise, called a spade a spade and had critical thinking. She had no " qualifications " but saw the world differently.
Carl Sagan's message was spot on. Question everything. Encourage children to question all they are taught. It's not about right and wrong. It's about the process of asking why something is the way it is. Ignore those that ridicule you for asking "stupid" questions. Question every part of your reality, and do the legwork to find your own answers. Everything else is a distraction to keep you complacent.
The signature on my email said Play Fair, Play Nice, and Question Everything. I didn't know I was quoting Sagan... I'm still not sure, I should check. Na, it fits my bias. 🙂
And even better regarding ecouraging kids to wonder: a parent having to explain everything gets another chance to analyse their own biases and reasons.
“You may not win many arguments, but it won’t matter. For even losing arguments will become a victory that moves you towards the far grander prize of truth.” 🔥🔥🔥
@bunk95 I think it means to justify their actions taken that were initiated by their delusion. 🤷♀️ I could be wrong. Since I'm not sure what you meant 😅
A lot of people forget that the original conception of a liberal arts education primarily involved the development of one’s character through education. This goes all the way back to figures like Plato. The expectation was not just increased knowledge and proficiency in academic skill sets, but the development of a person as a person. The omission of this educational purpose today is one of the biggest problems with modern western academia.
Being taught how to think critically, and apply multiple sets of ideas to a problem doesn't create "docile competent workers" which is what education has been for the last hundred years.
Something I noticed several years ago and have tried to actively apply ever since is, if I hear a piece of information and I have strong emotional reaction to it that's the signal to take a step back and look at all the facts and other information before forming an opinion or "taking a side." Also, life is too short to die on every hill.
Yes, exactly. I've noticed this too, it's also a good idea to understand why it emotionally triggers you. That's at least what I do along with what you mentioned.
Some random thoughts: The univariate fallacy at 7:11 is different from the continuum fallacy. In the case of the cat and the monkey, there are no cat-monkeys just cats or monkeys. The two endpoints are well defined but no spectrum exists. For red and blue, there is a spectrum of colours between them but in terms of human perception the majority of people would be able to distinguish between red objects and blue objects. Despite the existence of a spectrum, we can still distinguish the end points. Many things in nature can be distinguished using so called multivariate analysis, for example principal component analysis (PCA). No one thing distinguishes a healthy river from an unhealthy one but once many different properties of a river are measured, PCA will show a strong difference between healthy and unhealthy. The same sort of analysis shows a strong sexual dimorphism in humans but any one property, for example hair length or height will not.
If people were honest about their inteligence, 99% of humanity would be classed as knuckle draggers. It's not what you know its who you know and nepotism reigns supreme in todays world!! Some of the most wealthy people on this planet are some of the most inbred dumb fuckers known, but being born into money and employing bright people has always dug them hugh riches!! And greedy people work for them!! Humanity is bizarre and absurd!!
Intelligence is just one of many tools. For a boxer, it's like being fast or strong or agile. None of those attributes individually guarantee success for a boxer. Intelligence is the same thing.
Determined people appear sexy. Thoughtful people appear insecure. That's why control is handed over to stubborn people in our society. Is there any way out?
Finding the way out of this might be the cure for most issues holding us down. Problem is, that the majority of al humans seem to be more concerned with whatever clothes some kardashians or other loudmouthed morons wear.
Smart is understanding and/or picking up a given set of rules taken at face value quickly and intuitively. Wise is slowly but surely extracting a sense of perspective and an internal auditing service from every formative experience you've ever had, and learning to apply the axioms thereof universally. They have very little to do with each other on balance.
On top of that, leading with facts and not predefined biases. Someone can always question something sound and find something wrong with it because nothing in the world is absolute, or someone can always go in with an agenda (this happens not just in politics but also in science). But if someone can let the conclusion be data-driven, then the conclusion from the challenge will be more sound as well.
What is real? How do you define 'real'? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain. Couldn't resist quoting Morpheus 😁
Sadly this video isn't very humble itself. Maybe ask someone who is left leaning about what being woke is about instead of just taking this video's word for it, preferably someone who is actually knowledgeable on the subject. This video is heavily biased and the whole point of it is to setup the strawman at the end.
@@VodShod it appears you know some stuff about woke, could you explain to me like I'm five? (actually a subreddit name, It's not an insult it just means you need to do... um... in-depth explanation I guess)
@@chaomatic5328 For people on the left woke is just a term referring to actually paying attention to injustices done to others which you were previously oblivious to. Currently republicans use woke to refer to any situation where a minority is in a position of success, they claim that any minority has to have only succeeded due to "diversity hire", and that any minority that has a job which requires high level of skill must be only there due to "woke ideology". Maybe you can figure out why yourself, it is rather obvious in many cases, in other cases people just are parroting what they heard from other republicans. this is a situation where a group of people with a lot of money and a social network arm create a narrative using a strawman to attempt to muddy the waters and demonize their opponents. An clear example of something like this is: like factory owners from the 1870s spreading propaganda that the push to have emergency escape doors was just an effort to support greedy workers in their organized attempt to steal from the righteous business owners. This video is along the same lines, although it does have the Prager U style of obfuscation which gives half truths and makes leaps of logic to push a certain argument, all while giving a veil that it is discussing something that isn't controversial, they also use round about methods of describing what they are talking about. For instance instead of saying outright that you shouldn't trust experts in their fields you start with how intelligent people have been found to have bias then conflate bias with delusion. Claim that intelligent people are as susceptible to it as ignorant people, then slowly twist that into making it look like intelligent people are much more delusional than any other group, then demonize education and make claims that education is all about supporting delusions, then as a guise of "examples" make strawman arguments towards groups you want to demonize while claiming both sides have issues and never giving any example from a side the maker supports. Then use self help statements about curiosity and being humble and a disclaimer of trying to avoid bias to complete the veil of innocence.
We define cats and monkeys by their genetics and taxonomy. •Gender/sex may be defined by chromosomes, reproductive functions, behavior and hormones, present organs, etc. •Generally people believe if your cells have XX chromosomes, you're female. If you have XY chromosomes, you're male. •This excludes those with monosomies, trisomies, tetrasomies, etc. of the 23rd pair, such as those with X, XXY, XYY, XXXYY, etc. chromosomes. Chimeras also exist, where some cells are XX and others are XY. •Some say organs are what define a male or female. A penis, testes, etc. for a man, and a vagina, ovaries, etc. on a woman. •This excludes those who were born with parts of both or are missing parts. •With this idea comes the belief that surgery to replace your reproductive system can change your gender. •Some believe hormones and behavior defines gender. Things like a gentle nurturing nature being seen as female, and an aggressive protective nature being male. Estrogen, progesterone, etc. being female, whilst testosterone and adrenaline being male. •This idea suggests that you view all hunters, lumberjacks, etc. as male, and nurses, bakers, etc. as female. •With this idea comes the belief that if you can change your hormones, you can change your gender. One who believes gender is defined by all of the above simultaneously must also believe in a spectrum, as someone may be born with all of the characteristics of a man, but also have a pair of ovaries and XXY chromosomes. Whether by culture or by science, gender/sex is reasonable to define as a spectrum. Cats are born from cats and may either birth cats or not birth at all. Monkeys are birthed from monkeys and may birth monkeys or not birth at all. Cats and monkeys may never reproduce together, making their difference clear beyond reasonable doubt.
The problem with being humble and curious is that most everyone else is not. You will be an outcast and misunderstood. You must be strong to carry your own convictions. The world does not have to be close minded and selfish, but those in power pump out that nonsense. And the heard, fearing being cast out, will go along with debauchery. "You have to understand, most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."
10:27 “Teaching about misinformation will make people dismiss facts as disinformation while teaching them logic will make them use it selectively for what they want to believe.” The video is so deep and insightful but finished with simple and practical conclusions. Amazing stuff.
UA-camr is utterly clueless - you cant argue with the fact Sociaists have videos literally named 'Top 10 Misconceptions dull dimwits think about Equity' and this video is literally quorting them. Nice dunning kruger effect, extra funny if they talk about 'Smart And Dumb'
@@legokirbymanchannel My reply is literallly refering the 'objective fact' that Conservatives and Right-Wingers have such a blatant War-on-science they literally gotta pretend in a 'rerally transparent, easy-to-deubnk way' that "THE LEFT HATES SCIENCE AN HAS A WAR ON IT", which even this video lowkey refers You think your snarkyness or bad-manners make this reality go away? Honey, you cant tell most ofyour Beliefs to aS Scientist without them laughing you outta the room; face what that means already. Your so sad and pathetic you cant even LISTEN to Science-UA-camrs talking about EVEN NON-political stuff, righhhhttt? ...Let alone Leftist-Channels exploring Conservative-Fuck-Ups like the aptly-named "The GOP-led House is really embarassing-itself"
@@legokirbymanchannel Conservatives and Right-Wingers have such a blatant War-on-science they literally gotta pretend in a 'rerally transparent, easy-to-deubnk way' that "THE LEFT HATES SCIENCE AN HAS A WAR ON IT", which even this video lowkey refers You think your snarkyness make this reality go away? Honey, you cant tell most ofyour Beliefs to aS Scientist without them laughing you outta the room; face what that means already. Your so sad and pat-etic you cant even LISTEN to Science-UA-camrs talking about EVEN NON-political stuff, righhttt? ...Let alone Leftist-Channels exploring Conservative-F-Ups like the aptly-named "The GOP-led House is really embarassing-itself"
Ah, Climate-Change-Denial and countless massive amounts of science-denial: ALl RIGHT-WIng-Staples but you nod your gullable head to a video that couldnt help but sprinkle-in THEIR OWN DELUSIONS, debunked into oblivion by Professor Dave's video "Science isnt Dogma, your just Stupid" into the video
“One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision.” ― Bertrand Russell
I often find that I want to respond to a comment or statement because I disagree. As I start to write a response, I begin to reason if what I write might be a fallacy or based on false information. Often before I am done with my response, I'll chose not to post. Not because I'm intelligent, but because I don't really know.
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Just because someone is an intellectual it doesn't mean they are not stupid. Some of the most imaginative and understanding people I've known have been of so called "average intelligence".
@@jasonc5413that seems self-contradictory: in order to be an intellectual, you must be intelligent, it's a pre-requisite. and if you have creativity/imagination and understanding then by definition you are intelligent
Thomas Sowell's book "Intellectuals and Society", explains it perfectly. Smart people think they are better than the rest of us, they think they're anointed, so to speak.
On the contrary. Intelligent people wouldn't necessarily do that. People (stupid and intelligent) with big egos do that. Sowell is quite good at times, but often wrong. He also has a big ego.
More than likely, you have confused your beliefs with what narcissists believe, which is that they are better than everyone else, et cetera, et cetera. Interestingly enough, narcissistic people come in the full intelligence spectrum.
Yes. As a kid I was that gifted kid, but so obnoxiously arrogant it makes me cringe. But I was just on the spectrum and my niche obsession was electrical engineering, somehow. Which meant I had to learn advanced concepts at 10 to learn my autistic niche. So I appeared gifted?. Anyway, Because this compound is still hated, or misunderstood by so many. I took LSD when I was 19, it was one of the most important things Ive ever done. It gave me the abilities to be intently self introspective, almost to a fault? I dont think I ever admitted being wrong before this. Im 30 now and still try to work towards my intrinsic being. I not only have no issue admitting being wrong, but I seek it out as an error correcting technique. ITs in the same wavelength as failure. Which ever since I was a child. I knew that failure was nothing more than a tool to learn. It affords you the opportunity to learn, so Ive always embraced it as that. I learned this from electrical engineering as a kid, because you learn more from a failed circuit, than one that works the first time.
"To be intelligent is to have a big engine in the car, to be rational is to have a good brake. If you never brake, you'll hit the wall. And if you have a big car, you'll hit the wall hard. You can be extremely intelligent and extremely biased. So above all, be wary of intelligent people more than others, because when they screw up, they screw up harder [...] So be wary of yourself." This is from a French biologist I have seen on UA-cam some times ago. This video reminds me of this guy and his quote. I find it quite interesting.
UA-camr is utterly clueless - you cant argue with the fact Sociaists have videos literally named 'Top 10 Misconceptions dull dimwits think about Equity' and this video is literally quorting them. Nice dunning kruger effect, extra funny if they talk about 'Smart And Dumb' and hey, hey, hey: whattt a coincidence, this video goes DIRECTLY to state conservative prpagana laughably easy to dbeunk like "WOKE PROFESSORS RULE THE UNIVERSITIESS AND ARE SPREADINGG BAAAD KNOWLEDGE". No, the video has nailed your coffin, firneds and its aptly-named "Science istn Dogma, your just Stupid". Got the spine to finish it? Haha, why am i even asking, of course not. Theres cliamte-change-deniers in the commentsection, attracted by the Narrative here; i rest my case cause that's sooooo obvioussss. This UA-camr i unsubtle bet will say 'Everything wrong ever'. Leftism debunks all this. Science isnt Dogma, your jut Sutpid, fans of this conservative channel. Man, no wonder your Side is going under
As an amateur racer, I'd change it: intelligence is the powertrain, experience is your brake, rationality are your tires and the ground surface is reality. Life is a track, and the single most important upgrade your car needs for a track is appropriate tires. Better brakes fatigue less, higher power accelerates faster, but you are hindered to do anything useful with both without a good grip. We could extend the analogy further with emotional stability (suspension) and personality (aero and chassis dynamics), but it would get too nerdy.
I was with you, right up to when you went off on a rant against "wokism". "Wokism" is just a label that right-wing thinkers use to stick on anyone who has progressive views. Most people who might fit into this category have a wide variety of far more "normal" views than the label would suggest. However, the label dismissively throws them in with people with extreme views. It's a dangerous and divisive "Us v Them" stereotype. On the other end of the political scale, most people who voted for Trump in the US election don't believe Hillary Clinton was a lizard woman who drank baby blood in the basement of a McDonald's restaurant! The use of the word "wokism" is extremely inaccurate and downright dangerous. The world, and the people in it, are far more nuanced. So, if as the video suggests, you are a smart person, be very aware of anyone who use terminology like "wokism"!
Curiosity and humility are the best tools against dogma and self delusion. Winning arguments does not matter. Let go. Seek truth, grow. Too much education, too much knowledge, not enough character. Bang on! This video is a great service to every watcher. Thanks.
It boils down to Wisdom. Data = Knowledge in all its forms Memory = A store of Data Intelligence = The innate ability to acquire, recall, analyse and produce Data Wisdom = Application of intelligence with good judgement, morals, ethics etc.
And wisdom can't be learned in books. It is learned by living. Oh, philosophy will teach you a great deal, but it won't answer all your questions, for that, you need experience.
How incredibly intelligent, you managed to define your premises such that they validated your initial proposition despite demonstrating no rationale or evidence for their definitions and casual chains!
My grandfather dropped out of high school, joined the Navy, got a job working in a nuclear reactor after the Navy, did that for 10 years then became the head of maintenance for a massive corporation and retired nicely. The smartest man I have ever known and he didn't even have a diploma or GED. Dude could fix anything. Fro. Reactor parts to small engines to framing a house to tile work. Just built different.
Some of the smartest people I have ever seen are like your Grandfather. They never got a higher education, but their ability to look at problems, break them down, and fix the issue was amazing. They then learned from the fixing of these problems and that has made them better men. I have this innate thing where I love to learn and do things , even if just one time. Having grown up poor also makes you extremely resourceful, which is something that rich people that go to these elite universities will never learn.
you are blessed to have such a great man for a grandfather. Its too bad he did not run for government. If we had people like him in government, things would not be such a mess.
As a "leftie" that can't stand wokeism I have given up on trying to discuss issues with so many people. Now I'm just interested in understanding how people think and come to the positions they hold. I see so many people say that free speech is under threat and then in the next breath argue someone should be arrested for saying something they disagree with, it's fascinating. Great video, thanks.
People are to caught up in being right that they are not thinking about what is right and what might be harmful. They are not thinking. They confuse emotion for thinking and begin to believe that if they can suppress or limit speech for someone they disagree with, somehow that increases their own power in that right but the truth of it is the moment you become successful in limiting any right for those with whom you disagree with you.. You inadvertently limit and handcuff yourself in that right at the same time in the very same way. So, those in power who are intent on deceiving and manipulation work to cause division and infighting amongst ourselves knowing full well that our unity despite our differences is the very thing that they must dismantle first. When it comes to our rights.. To assume I can take yours because we might disagree in some ways would just take away from me in the very same way. It is not a weapon that serves anyone of us well unless and only when we all have it together equally. When we become proud and divide and seek to use that weapon on one of our own just because they don’t believe and see things exactly like you and I and work to use that weapon to strike at that person or group we strike ourselves to and receive the same wounds and bleed out as well. It’s idiocy
mid-right here, same on both ends of the spectrum. I have friends on the far left and family on the far right, and I just like to observe how their brains work.
There's nothing wrong with being on the left of the political spectrum. I apparently according to a test i did am more soc-democratically inclined but i don't consider myself an ideologue and definitely dont subscribe to the radical social democratic dogmas and believe they borderline on anarchy
Educated only means that you have learned many things that may or may not be true. Wise means you have figured out which ones were true and which ones were not.
@@maythewindblow3734 You just saying that proves nothing but i suppose you dont even know what proof is. Honey, friendly reminder that Conservatism is at War with Science and all sidesk now and admit so except maybe you and this channel here
@@maythewindblow3734 You literally just lied about me. What was that meant to show anyone? That your a dunce who cant defend themselves against ANYTHING? What, i dont watch ANY Science-UA-camrs? LOLLLLL, i literally do, hahahha. Iagine just hailmerying the s-it outta the idea of a reply to me. just randomly shooting in the dark and hoping for the best
This is a beautifully done video. As I often say, "Don't strive to be kind, strive to be humble." Striving to be kind relies on a self righteous perspective on what is right or wrong. Striving to be humble will let you be question your self proclaimed notions of what is right and wrong and is the only way true kindness can reveal itself.
Stay easy and intuitive, try to be tolerant and yes, Kind. Don’t overthink it in your comfy Western paradise. That will harder than you think if you stumble into Real conflict like Horror that is the nightly international news.
One of the important parts of our own education that we have lost is doubt. Doubt is a vital tool we use to find flaws in our thoughts and reinforce truths we know, but our culture hates the idea of doubts. Doubts are to be ignored and avoided so as to not disrupt the beliefs we are to cling to. Doubts are uncomfortable and our culture wants comfort over everything. To our culture, doubting is seen as a negative, that you have underlying biased "-isms" preventing you from blindly accepting the narrative message.
Yes, doubt, shame, modesty, all limit of arrogance which leads to self-rationalization. One thing, however, is, are you looking for the truth or looking to be right? For my own purposes, I don't look for the truth or to be right. I look for what works, and what doesn't work. I have adopted many positions and over time seen that they just don't work. So right wingers think I'm leftist and left wingers think I'm rightist. One thing that makes EVERYONE happy is: the right denies science on climate, and the left, on gender. Took me years to get there.
Doubt must assume that the person has to doubt themselves, admitting that what they know is insufficient. You mean people should entertain their doubts instead of believing their beliefs? Preposterous! How dare you suggest such blasphemy. My beliefs can’t possibly be wrong.
There is a lot of wisdom in this talk. One of the lines that jumped out to me was, "Most goals of thinking are not to reach objective truth, but to justify what we wish to believe." And the solution...."the strongest countermeasure against bias is curiosity."
I have a mini whiteboard of quotes I like, I just took this one from the video: “Why do I really believe what I believe? What other reasons besides reason could I have?”
There is, but there is also a lot of hypocrisy here... Ironically enough it's doing exactly what it describes, connecting things that have nothing to do with each other with half truths to create a narrative... For example, I've never ever seen an academic claim that obesity is healthy neither exists a paper describing such a thing
@@MrChickennugget360 Depends on what you mean by fat acceptance. The only claim that came from educated background was, that a huge chunk of obese people get much worse and more obese if you call them fat and if you insult them, since stress and anxiety from the claim perpetuaes their bad behaviour connected to food, making it much less likely for them to lose weight. *There was never an academic claim that being fat is healthy.* That was just version of few fat americans.
I’ve never heard more projection in an After Skool video. So many of Gurwinder’s arguments are arguing with a bias as he argues against bias. I discount his opinion entirely
Honest question - I know we’ve been lied to about pretty much everything, but at what point does it become dangerous to just accept any conspiracy just because it’s a conspiracy?
This is how Jordan Peterson evolved from being a brilliant analyst using knowledge and logic to an aggressive moron using sophisms and eristic dialectics (and sometimes even worse, simply talking more and louder than his opponents, thus, yelling them down).
@@bestill365 I've seen it in several UA-cam videos. And quite frequently I have seen him cutting other peoples arguments by simply interrupting them and talking louder. That is not how convincing or debunking works.
As a tech CEO I’ve hired hundreds of people directly. 99% of the college graduates thought so highly of themselves and were so set in their own ways, they never took the time to learn how to do things OUR way. It didn’t take long before I started favoring those WITHOUT college degrees.
I was hired at my tech company for my experience vs my degree. They didn't care I had a degree and never asked me about it. They wanted to know about my experience in the field and how that could bring value to the company. So far, it's one of the best companies I have worked for. I'm seen as an expert in my area and also expected to keep up with the new information emerging in my field. My opinion is valuable, but I also know other people have great ideas and opinions too. Sometimes, another person's idea or opinion is what we go with because it is more sound. That level of thinking doesn't come from degrees, it comes from experience. (Many of us have lots of experience while less than half have degrees)
I've often heard it's better to hire someone w little to no experience so you can train them to do it a specific way. Overcoming old habits is a challenge, especially if they're so set on being right.
Excellent Video! Thank you. Even if someone has the understanding necessary to create this video, it doesn’t guarantee that they have the diction and communication skills to clearly explain these phenomena. PS my favorite line: “an idea so idiotic that only an intellectual could think of it.” :-)
This is so good. I was a builder and would tell the apprenticed to be teachable (humble) and curious. Don’t be afraid to ask questions, the only stupid question is the one you didn’t ask.
I worry that my apprentice is a bit too full of himself sometimes. He's OK for the moment because he's really obviously incompetent at pretty much everything, so he has to listen... You can see that he thinks pretty highly of himself though and I worry he'll become a PIA once he starts to learn a bit and starts to think he knows everything. IDK what you do about it though.
@@stevem815 You can't teach someone who already knows everything. If he thinks he knows something, he won't learn anything new about it. Thing is, it's way too late to teach him a good attitude; his parents were responsible for that. Now you can only hope he decides to learn that on his own. I'd sooner keep around a "dimwit" with a good (teachable) attitude any day of the week. You should too and you already know why. Hope it works out with him.
I think the real problem is social media. Before SM you had to go out and learn what you were interested in. And when you spoke you had an understanding a little deeper than others and we learned from each other. Now days everyone can pretend they know more about a subject than they actually do. But they get upset hoping their frustration will suffice as intelligence. It’s insane. There’s so much more to explain.
On the other hand, internet is the extremely powerful way to gain and spread knowledge. Yes, it could be used both for spreading truth and lies (and I personally had seen a lot of examples when lies too were spreading everywhere until one smart person found out that it's actually not true), but in essence it does make truth spread significantly faster than it was before the internet. It also gives people more opportunities to proof themselves wrong, since a lot of scientific knowledge is open in the internet
@@akeem2983 It's not just the speed: in the internet age, reputation means nothing. Having been wrong a dozen times- a hundred times- before is not impediment to pumping out BS and finding a willing audience. Until the 1990s, politicians had to resign, media figures were sacked, liars were sent to oblivion and remembered by the public for being liars (thus discouraging others). Politicians, news channels, celebrities promoting everything from science to cooking, put great stock in being seen to be honest. The internet has freed us from consequences, from the guiding morality of (the better part of) society.
@@lllordllloyd Thats even the case in real debates today. As soon as they can't defend their arguments, they get into emotional rants and attacks. There is no disciplin and emotional distance in today debate culture.
@@prometheus9096 Very true. A twin of this is personalising a debate about history or philosophy. "I didn't kill those natives, why are you making me feel guilty?"; "Children do better with a parent at home? How dare you undermine our right/need to both work long hours!". Folks, it isn't about you (but feel free to reflect later on a personal level).
This video is remarkable for many reasons. One of the biggest ones are that it is guilty of propagating the same biases, beliefs, and fallacies that it also (rightfully so) warns against. Most people in the comments are unaware of it, but a few have pointed them out, and my guess is that the "herd mentality" will make most people side with the ones that accept all statements in the video as gospel. Ironic, isn't it?
Correct. It's a Spiritual matter. Everyone has a belief of something which determines their understanding of their action, but what belief is true? Examine the beginning of life and death. Truth is known in their understanding.
Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
@@BrettJones-k5u Ah, yes, Climate-Change-Denial and countless massive amounts of science-denial: ALl RIGHT-WIng-Staples but you nod your gullable head to a video that couldnt help but sprinkle-in THEIR OWN DELUSIONS, debunked into oblivion by Professor Dave's video "Science isnt Dogma, your just Stupid" into the video
@@Not_Mussolini_Is it wrong for an artist to paint birds and flowers? Grasshoppers and honeybees? If so, how is it okay for Muslims to make humanoid robots in the image of man? Or Christian societies to do the same?
I find it amazing that some people see sex, which is pretty much binary, as a spectrum - and then some people (such as Robin DiAngelo in her book) see race, which is a spectrum, as binary (white / non-white).
No one sees sex as a spectrum. Gender on the other hand, is seen as a spectrum. Sex has more to do with biological attributes that are associated with physical features. Gender is a social construct that has more to do with neurological characteristics and behaviors than physical attributes.
@@HeraBek I don't think anyone has a motive to fabricate the condition of being transgender. Least of all that Republican politician who was forced to confront it because it was becoming apparent to him that he had a trans daughter.
@@jadedstargazer "No one sees sex as a spectrum" This is patently false. If you disagree wit the position just say that instead of trying to disappear it.
Well done video. I absolutely LOVE that he stressed that if we want to get to objective truth, we don't need more studies and more money, but that we need people who of the right character. Who have the humility to freely admit when they're wrong, and the curiosity to investigate if they are. As my mom and dad used to tell me, "There's no shame in being wrong, your human. The shame is in refusing to adjust your belief in the face of evidence." Or nowadays the refusal to even look at contrary evidence since algorithms are all to happy to keep us in our silos.
As my dad would often say when things went tits up, "you gotta be pretty smart to do something that stupid." Or another of his favorites, "you know just enough to get all the way into trouble but only halfway out."
I remember in the 90s the accusation was always that without religion people would be rational and open-minded. Here we are a few years later as more people have become atheist and those same people have invented the most absurd beliefs and enforce them with fervor upon others. We really are our own worst enemies
I'd argue that wokeism is the new religion of the 21st century, they certainly act like religious fanatics did, like the bigots who burned Beatles albums because John Lennon said The Beatles were more popular than Jesus...the wokes do the same kinda thing, they "cancel" people for doing and saying things they don't like, they look for things to get offended by (think Satanic panic but in reverse)
Religion is not the reason. My country has majority atheist/non-believers, and the current woke AND conservative discourse (USA) is seen as pure nonsense here. On the other hand, most people in my country had enough of societal experiments for a lifetime... Not so in the west. Maybe it's time for forty years of a total shitshow on your part so you can get it out of your system.
You say atheists have invented the most absurd beliefs and enforce them with fervour upon others. Funny, because from my perspective as an atheist, it’s religious people that do this. This cognitive bias is a minefield.
Not realizing the difference between believing, thinking, and knowing is a huge problem. There are only two mistakes that one can make on the path to truth: Not starting and not going all the way.
A place like Harvard is filled with very smart, ambitious and politically careerist folks, so admitting that they might be wrong in a place which is defined by "intelligence" is a heavy pill to swallow. On top of that it is even harder for people to admit their mistakes because they collectively are very good at rationalizing their errors in thought...so a bunch of really smart academics at Harvard cannot possibly be wrong, right?
What has helped me is being on either side of the political spectrum at some point in my life and realizing it's all the same control machine. No politician is your friend, even your favorite one
I remember in grad school that my advisor would admonish me whenever I used the word “believe” when describing data or information. He argued that “belief” requires no evidence so avoid the phrase “I believe …”. This practice made me, through my life, to be more critical in evaluating information and adopt an epistemic philosophy.
an econ professor conditioned us not to use the word "should" when discussing topics. That alone changed my mindset more than anything else in his class.
@@omarclunis2466 Because 'the mind' /intellect uses 'beliefs' like foundation stones to be built on and to be fought over. Most minds HATE being wrong. He was training them to think openly and widely, before blindly believing without the full facts, just because they fit a current convenient desired outcome. Were you born with the knowledge that the sun rose every day? Many humans in times before, believed you had to worship the sun 'so it rose every day'...
Eh. You have to believe in data. There is all sorts of potential faults, if you put a lot of effort into it… “ belief” is required to deem it representative of larger populations.
The next step toward being humble: stop drawing those you disagree with as caricature fools with boxes on their heads and yourself as a sage floating in the sky.
Humble? So if a man tells you he is a woman you say nothing and accept him as a woman? If a man tells you that you must accept his god as being your “savior” or get burned in his hell you say nothing? Be a pushover if you want, I will never allow be silent and accept such DumbFCKRY to be pushed on me.
I don't draw myself. I'm not this nice to look at... But i do this annoying Thing, called THINKING. Well, I know it has fallen out of Favor lately - but I'm old School.
So where do we go next? If a person is curious and lets go of their ego, questions their own beliefs and tries to be humble. Then there is a possibility that this person could come to understand one or more of the problems facing the world. If a second person remains incurious, sticks solidly to the belief they think is correct and disregards humility, then presumably this task becomes much harder. However, only the second person would be thought of as being able to wield power. People will gravitate towards the person who says "The solution to this problem is easy and I know it" over the person who says "The solution to this problem is complex and I don't know if I can solve it, but I will try". Time and again we vote for people who appear strong, determined and sure of their beliefs, even though these are probably the very people who might be least curious and therefore most prone to delusional thinking. So, where do we go next?
Yes, I resonate with what you say - I am reminded of the covid response. None of the political 'leaders' could say, "well, we don't know yet for sure but it looks like....and we will revise as we know more". Instead, they all acted in an authoritarian manner proclaiming "absolute truth" and worked with the media to deplatform anyone who dared to disagree with the official narrative. My whole view of how society functions changed during that time. You are right, we need leaders who are humble and who can change their minds with new evidence.........but that's not how the political sphere seems to work, sadly.
The problems of the world are actually very easy to fix as they stem from corruption on the highest levels. We need to hold them accountable, but you all know they won't step down without a fight. Have you ever wondered about the people who you are not allowed to vote for?
@@Willy_Tepes Sadly, I think it would be a fight that would never end. In the US, you could take the words "Corruption on the highest levels" and apply them to both Biden and Trump (I think they might fit in both cases). And if you did manage - somehow - to dethrone both of them, there would be plenty of others waiting to take their place. The same ambition and determination (read Psychopathy if you prefer) that drives these people to the top of the pile also ensures that the wrong people will always be in charge. Perhaps it is also true that power itself adds to the corruption. I liked Douglas Adams take on this - his quote from a conversation between Zarniwoop and the ruler of the universe went as follows: “You don’t understand that what you decide in this shack of yours affects the lives and fates of millions of people? This is all monstrously wrong!” “I don’t know. I’ve never met all these people you speak of. And neither, I suspect, have you. They only exist in words we hear. It is folly to say you know what is happening to other people. Only they know, if they exist. They have their own Universes of their own eyes and ears.” Our leaders believe they know of the universes of our own eyes and ears. In truth, nobody else knows what we know. And ultimately, anyone who claims to know is going to be lying.
You say "Time and again we vote for people who appear strong, determined and sure of their beliefs" isn't continuing to do the very same thing and expecting a different result the very definition of a fool? And proves the fact that some 80+% of voters, regardless of who they vote for don;t have a clue? A majority will vote for whichever party promises them the most from the public purse.
@@goodtimea6 I can explain the problem. Firstly: We are given approved alternatives to vote for. Some candidates are banned from running or are stopped in other ways because their politics are a threat to the system (usually called a threat to democracy). Secondly: The population has been brainwashed from birth by media and the education system to reject anyone who proposes real solutions, and we have been conditioned to accept that politicians lie and break their promises. Thirdly: Censorship ensures that the alternative is banned from public debate..
“Without the right personal qualities more education will not make you a master of your own personal biases, it will only make you a better servant of them.” That’s a quote. Harvard needs to put THAT over the door.
This is awesome! Curiosity is definitely the driver for me in my epistemology. Just in the last two years my views have changed so much because of that, this video sums it up so well.
It takes a strong person to admit they are wrong. It's easy to blame others or to claim ignorance, but it's much harder to realize you have been improperly educated and to accept your own short comings. Great video, and very well put. Thanks for putting this information out for people to see.
@@jimx45 From Middle English feer, fere, fer, from Old English fǣr, ġefǣr (“calamity, sudden danger, peril, sudden attack, terrible sight”), from Proto-Germanic *fērō, *fērą (“danger”), from Proto-Indo-European *per- (“to attempt, try, research, risk”). Your point exactly? Or are you here to be a perfect example?
The Greeks called it 'sophistry' and the term survives in our language with the same disparaging meaning (although I say 'survives', maybe one person in 100 would know what you mean). It's interesting that as the Greeks formalised in philosophy how to divine truth through dialogue, they so quickly recognised clever dialogue can miss uindamental truth as well.
Indeed. I think it's gotten to the point where the negative consequences have started impacting a critical mass of people. So concerns can't just be waved aside anymore.
@@wabalubadubdubdub The pendulum has been swinging since the beginning. If left alone, it will eventually stop but it is constantly being pushed about.
This is why it’s so important to stop with all this identifying everything and everyone with labels! This practice is sooooo limiting and is everywhere. Why place oneself or anything into a box that end up being a coffin.
My granfather was a veteran of WW2,and a Mayor in the UK. when imparting his wisdom,he said always question the middle word in life and always remember there are no pockets in shrouds, words that stuck. A heartfelt thank you to After Skool for your time and effort for your content. Its very much appreciated.
@@garlic9763 ah OK it's connected to "Life" and pretending that there is another word in the middle of the word life. Strange train of thought to me, I wouldn't have gotten that without explanation, thanks.
Excellent video! Especially on the point about being excellent at winning a debate rather than seeking truth! The thing is that bias isn’t necessarily a bad thing. If one has a biased belief they might want to try to prove that belief using empirical evidence. What is important however, is to test your biased beliefs, arguments and evidence AGAINST those who do not hold those beliefs in peer-reviewed studies. The problem today is that the bias has a consensus status where not holding onto it will lead to being ‘canceled’. Thus, fear has a great hold over the scholarship. If scholars were allowed to take a dissident voice without fear of their careers, then bias might not be a bad thing. It’s when tolerance doesn’t apply to different ideas that we see the dangers of biased beliefs
Two things I tell my kids: 1) A day gone by without learning something, no matter how trivial, is a wasted day. 2) Don't be afraid to be wrong. Allowing ourselves to be wrong can set us on the path to being right.
there is no way u live a full day without learning something, no matter what you do, who u are, etc. YOu always learn something even if u think u do not, you can learn even when sleeping if u know techniques to remember dreams and if u learn to trust ur intuition that excels during sleeping. You learn reflexes or abilities to solve riddles when u play computer games (which a lot of ppl considers wasting time), you even learn something when ur drunkard drinking whole day - yap, drunkards also have some wisdom in them, for example how to deal with hangover or how to creat alcohol out of nothing, or last longer when drinking :) But hey, it is some knowledge right? Even when u watch TV whole day u can learn something, some concepts u see in TV can make u reavaluate your thinking- even if u watch stupid films, something can trigger a thought in ur brain that will change everything. For me, biggest lessons of my live and the biggest wake up calls came from totally trivial activities and not from studying books etc. I find it that brain cannot be working 100% power to learn really important things, I mean like life changing things. For me it almost always happens when I allow brain just to flow whevrever it wants. So I think u stress ur kids too much about this.
The most dangerous thing is when these people try to argue for something that has real world consequences like mass immigration into europe while also arguing these people are totally not from another society that dont value the same standards as we do.
Humility always feels difficult to achieve because it seems like it has been compressed under heavy layers of sediment of narcissism, selfishness, and personal biases accumulated through our lives.
Humble people tend to be exploited and mistreated. Sadly our society rewards and even accommodates arrogance. Seeing humble people getting trampled on makes people not want to be humble.
Humility is there, when the efforts to 'ACHIEVE' humility, come to an end. Trying to achieve humility is an act of self concern. Narcissism, selfishness and personal bias, are all, pretty much, the same thing. The Selfish cannot know humility. If the selfish find it difficult to 'achieve' humility, it is because they have no idea what it is.
@@quinnfletcher3906 It's a defense mechanism of the ego, hence the ending part of the video. You can't feel hurt when losing an argument when you let go of your self-image. Those self defense mechanisms are also what keeps people from standing up for themselves, as some people may think wrong of them if they do.
To quote the apostle Paul, "Knowledge puffs up...love builds up..." And "Without love I am nothing." It is not humility that sets is straight, but love. And a particular kind of love: that demonstrated at the cross of Christ. What you justify as a "natural evolutionary impulse" is merely the symptom of this underlying nature. That is why we can never escape bias unless God performs a miraculous transformation of the heart to incline it to himself. You're almost there. Consider these things. And finally, "Ask and it will be given to you. Seek and you will find. Knock and the door will be opened to you". God's salvation from sin / bias is a free gift for anyone who will believe.
@@DanielGrimm-gm4ud Yes. I agree. But God first loved us by sending his son and choosing us in him before creation. God's love enables our love, which enables humility. You are right, they go hand-in-hand. But no amount of human effort without grace from God can muster even a shred of humility. "Trying to be humble" without humbling yourself before God as the ultimate Truth, is no humility at all. All good gifts come from God, including humility, so that none can boast in thier accomplishments. The narrator of the video does allude to this in part, by not claiming to be humble. Perhaps there is a kind of humility in trying to be humble and admitting that you're only trying. I'm just saying that there is true humility seen in, and attainable only through, the gospel of Jesus Christ. The crucifixion defined humility as we know it today. For the skeptic, that's worth noting and investigating further.
I've built a significant potion of my adult identity on the label of "integrity". I espouse it as unique and the most important part of who I am. A little over a year ago, I made a mistake at work, and I had an opportunity to lie about it when confronted by that mistake. As I was known as honest and trustworthy, I could have gotten away with it. However, in that moment the words slipped out of me as easy as water, and I admitted to my fault. It is a very strange feeling to knowingly admitting to your mistakes and faults when there is real loss on the line. I'd lost the confidence of a person I considered a friend through my carelessness. All that to say that I understand the need for people to lie. They lie to other people, and then they lie to themselves to mask the guilt of the initial lie to avoid pain and fear. The West is full of liars, and they are so wrapped up in the lies they tell the world that they believe them and live a in a world built on very shaky ground. They get violent when someone shakes those foundations because of the fear of it all crumbling around them.
It's actually horrifying how much of human interaction and society is based on lying. It then becomes entierly comical how many people want "honesty" in their relationships, while at the same time honesty is pretty much unviersally punished and carries negative consequences for the truth teller. Most basic example is if you simply don't feel like attending and how if you DON'T make up a white lie for why you won't be attending a social gathering will be seen as disrespectful and instead of rewarding you for clearly communicating you are punished by being excluded the next time around due to others being unable to handle rejection and taking it personally.
It's a cultural thing. Us germans are, in comparison, not only to americans but to many neighbouring european countries, brutally honest, as you would probably experience it. Our "how do you do" is a little more honest, therefor not used that often, and you can tell a little about your normal daily struggles without breaking the social codes already.
Being able to confront your social group with inconveniences is key to productivity. You need those personalities in any given society. People like you (and me, btw) are important additions to any social group.
I tried criticising details of this video and noticed a dilemma, so I deleted the original comment in favor of this one. For a message to spread effectively on this platform, it needs to be optimized for easy, emotional recognition. The top comments here are almost all fuzzy one-liners, emotional stories, or well-known statements people already agree with. Mass voting and algorithms quickly hide content that requires attention or has a slow dopamine response. On top of this comes the culture that is subject of the video. As a result, deeper criticism is so extremely suppressed that its uttering is a waste of time. My own stupidity showed when I once again had the impulse to disagree and debate in this comment section. I should really know better. For decades, I have used various forums, "social media" platforms, and the likes, and seen how too much quality of argument is inversely correlated with success. Invalid means to dumb down and deceive are rewarded, while harsh truth is punished. But yesterday, I still hadn't learned and started typing objections, forgetting the overriding meta-argument that devalues the entire approach. For the odd one who might read to this point, there should be an unsettling implication here. If this is correct and people like me eventually learn it, the result is that we stop objecting if the context fails to reward it. Thereby, the suppression of related opinions is even more effective, exascerbating the groupthink you are subjected to if you do not adapt yourself.
You do speak of the terrible truth. A possible solution is to see the fallacy of the interent. To not view the user and the human be the same. We are void of empathy and get the worst of Paranoia in here. Intellectual discussions are more better suited with real people in real places. Most people tend to watch about rather than read off of the words of authors as well.
@@TrulyAtrocious Truly terrifying, but only the first of at least four strategies: 1) The naive: to not care about truth that much and use the nonsense to feed the own ego. 2) The repulsed: to embrace becoming grumpy, resentful, and habitually disagreeable. 3) The contrarian influencer: to find a like-minded niche that rewards going against the grain. 4) The two-faced: to seemingly go along with the irrational dynamics, but think differently. The two-faced have the option of becoming an anointed authority, which is a moral catastrophe as they are incentivized to manipulate and outplay other people. Many politicians come to mind.
@Vandroiyll, What disagreements did you have with the video? Seeing as though you formed your ideas so well, I am quite curious to find out your thoughts. Interestingly, you can use this video’s end psychology of being curious and humble to possibly critique the video.
@ominousvirus5278 There is a lot to unpack here. For starters, I do not agree that being humble is a general virtue. Doubting one's own, fallible knowledge in the search for truth is an optimization problem. Both sides are essential: confidence and restraint, balanced with one's own fallibility in mind. Humbleness is no doubt useful to get people to like you, but if truth is the goal, more is not always better and going too far leaves you with an ugly choice: either beccome manipulative, merely pretending to be humble to get social benefits, or a doormat, yielding valuable attention to garbage claims. To be clear, the problem which the video describes is extremely important and largely well-put. But when it comes to drawing conclusions, I suspect that the social dynamics of making a successful video are taking precedence over examining scathing realities and trade-offs. Mainly, questions of attributing vice and adjusting moral imperatives. This whole take is avoiding the question of the limiting factor. The advice around the end concerns *how* to make yourself curious and humble. But let's do a reality check. *Why* do we have any confidence that the lack of these traits is an ultimate cause? By the sound of it, the advice would allow to straightforwardly obtain ever more of the most powerful human skill: predicting reality. If there really is a simple, smooth, gradual path to get this... then why have all our processes failed to find it? Why would we need some semi-fringe video to lead the way... and to explain the answer in just a few common opinions? After seeing the video, are we now enlightened, ready to move on a path of reason? Can the threshold to a convergent solution to human bias be even remotely that low? In short, something is deeply wrong here. This is not plausible at all; why is it even normal to smooth over this glaring issue? There must be a systemic obstacle that is blocking gradual paths to advancing reason. And from this very video, we should already suspect what it is: a cultural context that incentivizes optimization for goals that are in conflict with objectivity. It is not just *your* ego that gets in the way. It is what Sowell (who not so incidentally gets quoted on this channel) calls the Vision of the Anointed, the prevailing vision of our culture, the standards by which we interact. It is the interplay of ego-games between many people of varying rationality. If you simply ignore the incentives and aim for truth, there will be resistance. If you let go of your ego's whims while readily accepting those of others, you need to cope with the negative consequences to stabilize the approach. The result is duplicity. Such approaches can be read about in Robert Greene's works: devaluation of honesty and the use of social dynamics for personal gain, often with no moral regards. This is technically a path to more objective truth, but ignores the question of a cooperative solution, implying that those smart enough to see the implications shall start deceiving less objective people around them, while communicating in implicit codes and protocols. Explicit description of such things is then shunned and manipulative adjustments of public messaging are regarded as normal. As should be obvious, this background of deception is then a massive hindrance to the furthering of reason. All that said, playing soothing music while telling people to just be honestly curious and humble... and advising to "lose arguments" which is really code for accepting unreasonable social punishment... and assuring that the resulting negativity won't matter... well, it makes me want to punch through the screen. This is, in essence, just another anointed strategy, great for an influencer with an audience of millions, someone whose opinions are obviously lucrative to share. This strategy is not so likely to scale to the larger audience, which still bears the cost of naively going along, usually without the rewards in approval and paycheck. This criticism is not very specific to this video. If anything, this one is more honest than most, by naming conflicting goals at all, rather than presupposing good intentions. But the threshold to cracking the root underlying dynamic has not been reached.
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.”
― Philip K. Dick
Hate is the answer.
@@theq6797 I hate you for saying nothing and typing shit anyway. I hope it helps. Can you go away when I stop thinking about you?
@@stylis666 Who cares what you feel or think?
"intelligence is giving the bad news to the person as fast as possible.. wisdom is to give time for that person to accept it"
One wants things to work out quickly and have progress, the other takes its time cause it knows that this might affect future events of that person badly
I don't like that statement. So I'm gonna saying he's smart but biased.
You reminded me of what Theodore Roosevelt said about thieves. He said, "A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad".
Must have been talking about, Andrew Carnegie.
I'm sure Roosevelt knows all too well about this subject. He graduated with honorable mentions!!
Wow, thanks for sharing that.
Can’t do that without a education.
@@wrestlingPCwell said,you lefty brainiac ,but you forget how many benefited from his " thievery"
“Unintelligent people are more easily mislead by other people, while intelligent people are more easily mislead by themselves.” The fact that I didn’t realize this earlier is eye opening. Wow
I don't think there is much truth to this because it doesn't really fit the evidence, so it makes sense that you would not have realized it. People are social and tend to form groups. These groups use identity markers including speech patterns, specific beliefs, and actions to try to weed out people who aren't truly part of their group. This used to be a matter of survival, but now it just means people pick a social group, then change their beliefs based on their group. This is true for everyone. People who have practiced critical thinking skill in a wide variety of scenarios and who understand how to read statistics and studies, and are wiling to go to the effort of trying to prove themselves wrong will have some ability to escape this. These will almost always be intelligent people who value knowing the truth.
@@LEgregius It's not regular intellectuals who are prone to this, but rather those who get fame and clout.
For example Jordan Peterson, he used to be scientific and humble, but then it spiraled down straight to science denial with fame and ego boosts.
We don't mislead ourselves. We are actively being brainwashed.
👑💯
@@LEgregius it's strange because I personally can't relate to any one social group a hundred percent but have picked up certain thoughts and behaviors from various groups, which makes me paradoxically able to talk to almost anyone
I love admitting I was wrong about something. It's very powerful, because what can you be accused of? Let someone know when you were wrong about something, or if they were right about something. Not being able to do so is weak.
Same. And you end up in a better class of people. I want to see all facets of the diamond.
I don’t think ‘love being wrong’ is the correct approach. Stand by what you believe in and if people are trying to persuade you then you counter with facts rather than rhetoric.
Enjoy talking to people with varying points and trying to find middle ground is probably what the logical people should be focused on. Regrettably it’ll be the logical people that have to do this - if we are successful we can begin to turn the tide.
Being capable of assuming a mistake and even thanking the one for pointing out requires another type of intelligence. Emotional and social intelligence. Because the Ego can get hurt and people on average do not want to feel pain. Including the emotional realization they made a mistake
@@crispytendies1433 I think you just hallucinated the "love being wrong" thing. That was never said or implied.
I don't know, look at politics. Why don't anyone ever admit mistakes no matter how obvious it is that they made one? Probably because history tells us they are punished harder at the ballot when they do than when they don't. So is it weakness to deny mistakes? Is it intelligence? Or it simply a case of cause and effect? I don't know. But i suspect that
If we started rewarding leaders for admitting to and correcting mistakes instead of punishing them, then maybe, just maybe, we would start to see more of them do it.
Smart or dumb, one thing you can always trust them to do is to act in their own self interest, so if you make their interests your interests, everybody should win, in theory.
We need to stop conflating educated with smart
"Educated" in modern terms basically just means "well-trained" according to the most annoyingly passive-aggressive HR-based curriculum imaginable.
Actually I've noticed that collage graduates are often dumbest as it requires being a yes man
@@Snickers18827100% it makes u docile and take less risks.
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
Street smarts vs studied intellectuals; I'll take street smarts any day.
George Orwell said "Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual would believe them."
Makes sense why colleges are the hotspots for the ideology I can't name cause my comment will be deleted. College/university is the biggest scam of the past 50 years. Anybody who is college educated will have a very hard time believing they're only smart in the subject they got their education in, while in other subjects they're not any smarter than a truck driver. I'm using truck drivers as an example because they are pretty much the punching bag for intellectuals.
Makes sense why colleges are the hotspots for the ideology I can't name cause my comment will be deleted. College/university is the biggest sham of the past 50 years. Anybody who is college educated will have a very hard time believing they're only smart in the subject they got their education in, while in other subjects they're not any smarter than a truck driver. I'm using truck drivers as an example because they are pretty much the "example" intellectuals keep using when describing lesser people.
@@DesertStateInEUHitler used schools to indoctrinate his future followers.
Orwell was a prophet.
I always think of that quote when someone tries to tell me a woman can have a penis etc.
"Without the right personal qualities, more education won't make you a master of your biases, it will only make you a better servant of them." Wow! That is so well said!
Perfectly describes modern medicine!
@@daughterofTheLionGood stuff one more free hospital bed for someone who is thankful for modern medicine.
Yet sadly so many on here are too blinkered, too obsessed with buzzwords they hear their peers saying, but don't seriously care to enlighten themselves or question any thing they believe in, change is never easy in the beginning but we adapt.
@@sophiepooks2174 "more free hospital bed"
please take them. I'll go on living a healthy natural life not pupped full of chemicals 24/7
So glad to see that you think of yourself as so well-spoken. (You did, however, put it in quotes, so, are we to assume it's not YOUR quote?) If so, who's is it, then?
You can't be truly intelligent without being humble.
Got that right
These videos are just a circlejerk for people that overestimate their cognitive capabilities. If you believe in stupid, chances are you are stupid
Intelligence it's only measured with IQ. Wich it's problem solving focused. Howrever there are types of intelligence. Social. Phyloaophical and emotional intelligence. This if underdeveloped can create this paradoxx where a high IQ person it's dumb enough to think hks opinion it's better because he knows he has a high IQ
"I know that I know nothing", as a wise man from Athens put it, circa 400 BC.
I guess it depends on the definition of humble, but if humble is the opposite of arrogant (downplaying your capability) it is equally wrong as arrogance, and the right way is simply sticking to reality and the truth to the best of your abilities.
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing Not to put it in a fruit salad." - Brian O'Driscoll
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is eating your tomato as you ponder the meaningless categorization of various foodstuffs.
@@The13thRonin do you think is this meaningless? It often helps to think which category i have to put in my diet
Maybe I like tomatoes in my fruit salad.
Good PoinT
you are very alone in this matter@@JHavoc-rt2fe
Just because someone is smart, it doesn't mean they are wise.
Elaborate
And just because someone is wise, it doesn't mean they are smart.
Nobody was conflating the two, and you have not provided a definition for either, so this statement is as meaningless and stupid as I presume you to be
Smart people believe in stupid things because they don't know this 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🌳
@@colinjohnrudd @kikilicious your comments appear as you're offended by the original post
For about 5 years, I fell for everything one party would say… and then I studied both sides and fell for what both believed. The only difference now, I go find why propaganda wants us to believe and who funds it.
They give us our heroes and villans. Funding & fueling each side. Imagine how it will be when we realize that we are all one.
Exactly. It’s a divide and conquer scheme.
🌍 any sides?
@@jjhoughton2812
All sides are an illusion.
Anything to divide us.
Anything & everything.
I grew up Republican In SoCal... flipped when I saw folks losing their life savings and increase of biases. I've been a centrist for better part of 20 years. Voting in the best interest of the community I live in... my military life taught me that most folks want the same things regardless of where they live... the major issue with extreme left or right is the lack of critical thinking and self-interest vs. communal needs. Individualism failed to teach people to work on and love themselves (EQ), and instead, egoism has taken over. People who argue, only want to be right to assert their individuality (ei. Belong to a group) instead of learning to find common ground and truth. People lie to themselves a lot, unfortunately (cognitive dissonance).
The ability to accept information from a supposed authority figure, and regurgitate it upon command, does not imply intelligence.
Intelligence Quotient needs to be separated into 3 categories.
1. Potential Intelligence Quotient (tested)
2. Applied Intelligence Quotient
3. Disabled Pattern Recognition (as applied to specific topics)
In other words, pattern recognition is the most prominent factor in a high IQ. Various buzzwords and their psychology are designed to disable pattern recognition about certain topics:
Ray SIs. T.
Home O. Fobe
ANT I SEAM IT ICK! *(most notably)
With your pattern recognition *(the highest IQ trait) disabled about these topics, your Applied Intelligence Quotient goes down. You will be unable to consider Krym stats of one people, bad touch rates of the next concerning children, and Mah Phia movements of the last, who are the brains of this Horde.
Explains why so many proudly wore their face diapers throughout the irrational fear narrative.
I never believe anything comes out from a jewish mouth, dan kahan for example!!
“Once you can sincerely say, ‘I don’t know’ then it becomes possible to get at the truth.” (Robert A. Heinlein)
That's the THE DIVINE LAW OF PRECLUSION in action.. but most of you are too closed off/blocked and/or arrogant to have ever EVEN HEARD of this immutable law.
I once had a huge s..t storm in my company, just because I asked a cutomer some really normal questions (at least normal for me). But then I was stormed by my superior, that I was wrong, because I did it so openly and showed everyone that a helpdesk doesn't know the subject... Yeah... It is difficult in the beginning to admit you don't know something. It needs to be trained, especially after being schooled all the time to "look like you are correct". It's hard, and just like After School stated - you have to remind yourself to be curious, no matter how others will think about it.
Sadly for many humans ego, vanity and fear of the unknown gets in the way. Hence faith in the unproven, for the things we don't yet comprehend, or some will never be capable of understanding there is faith based on delusion for comfort.
The question is, can you be satisfied living life without knowing what is true. Believe it or not, the majority of people you know probably are.
@@timhallas4275While you are right.. that's not how it works. I teach the universe. Free-will specifically means you are allowed to feel FALSEHOOD and TRAUMA and other ERROR in your subconscious/half-soul as TRUTH. That is literally what free-will is. - The Earth experience in general is VALID-BUT-FALSE. The experience consists of emotions so has validity.. but they are not true so that experience will be degraded over time.. just as you yourself will kill your own physical body over time by being ignorant and out of alignment with divine forces of LOVE and TRUTH. All things TRUE/LOVING (from divine perspective not mans) do not degrade and such worlds exist multiple spheres above where Earth collective consciousness resides
i was arguing with someone awhile back. he asked, " If you were wrong, would you want to know? if you're honest, explain to me what it would take to change your mind?". broke me as a young man. Now I ask myself that all the time, when examining my own beliefs. I also use those same two questions anytime someone wants to argue or debate. if they can't answer those questions sincerely, i just shake my head and say, " i understand." That has saved me a lot of time and frustration. 👍
ohhhhh good questions.. I had to put a comma in the second one to understand but my first thought was to pose them to my daughter since our beliefs are very different but then I had to stop and put them to myself.. this is going to take some thought.
You sound like you are ready to become vegan.
@@planetvegan7843 lol no. I actually raise buffalo. hopefully ostrich soon.
@@planetvegan7843 bleh if you mean me, I tried not eating meat after a traumatic death but I'm a carnivore. My niece said I eat steak like an alligator =))
Me too my grandpa used to say if u were completely wrong would u want to know? and I always try really hard to understand the other sides opinions and views I really do. And I'm not afraid to admit there are some things I'm on the fence about. We're all still learning we never stop learning and who knows something could happen in one of our lives that could change our whole outlooks, ya know
"Winning arguments" versus "discerning truth". Well said.
Great statement yes
I watched a vid the other day with Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens and others. Someone from the audience was challenging them, kind of poorly. He was essentially being ridiculed because "facts are unfair". At the end I figured out Kirk, Owens and the others were interested in "winning debate", while the audience member was interested in learning the (whole) truth.
Jim Jones won arguments with 913 people one day.
He said trying to win an argument against "wokeism"
I don't know the video you mentioned but I'm not a fan of Owens because she comes across as very arrogant. She loves to say how right she is etc. That's not to say she's wrong about anything, I agree with much of what I've heard her say but she doesn't need to be constantly saying how great she is.
This video is an excellent example of bias. It’s brilliant to both describe it and show it in the same video. Clever!
Well put
my thoughts too
Yup. I don't know this content creator. Is he self aware or is the whole thing just oozing irony?
I had the same thought.
It was really biased lol😂 one good part was that some intelligent people are trained to argue… after that it was just biased
"Trust those who seek truth. Doubt those who claim they've found it."
I heard this about twenty years ago, don't remember who gets the credit.
Kind of like men who say they've, 'figured women out'!
I think it's, "Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it." ~ Andre Gide. He won the Nobel Prize in literature in 1947.
I liked your quote enough to seek the truth about it. True story. Trust me!
@@samr.england613I've figured them out, and my analysis shows... they're all crazy!!
@@jimmyyounger618uh oh, are you claiming to have found the truth about the source of that quote?! 🤔
@@mcfarvo 😄 I knew I'd heard that quote or something close, but couldn't remember anything else about it. DuckDuckGo claimed to know that Bookbrowse>quotes knew all about it. I'm just a humble messenger of those claims. 👼
"I'm suspicious of all agendas, especially my own."
I have an agenda. If you don't like it, I have others.
I never believe anything comes out from a jewish mouth, dan kahan for example!!
Our modern education system stifles curiosity. When I was in school, in the 1970's, we were taught to question everything, if not by our teachers, by our peers. This was an off-shoot of the 1960's, where "question authority" was a mantra. I find that young people now have little curiosity to question what they are taught. This is a credit, and I mean that negatively, to our educational system, where they have learned to prey on young people's naivety and idealism. As a result, maturity and common sense has been delayed and sometimes completely shut down in millions of people.
Public schooling has been dumbed down.
We need workers, not thinkers.
In college you are taught to memorize and to give back the answers that your teachers want. Except within very strict parameters you are penalized for wondering if something is really true, for questioning revealed truths or for independent thinking.
@@ankhpom9296 There's no longer much need for workers, only servants.
There’s a free PDF online titled “The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America” that is an absolutely fascinating read, yet also horrifying.
@@ankhpom9296 modern public schooling was originally for producing workers for industry - "purpose of school turned more toward economic development " (Industrial Revolution) -- dumbing down isn't a recent thing. The methods and masks used are the only real change.
This video is actually a good example of bias
In what way?
@@catherinecastle8576 one could say towards "wokeism"
@@TheBrickWhisperer In what way? Define wokeism.
@@catherinecastle8576 exactly
@TheBrickWhispereryou seem to be biased my man
I try living by the mantra: Stay humble, stay teachable, seek the truth and always keep learning.
I like this 👍 💯
A very good outlook for life.
Yup.. agree.. learn to take the L.. i think is the best thing.. we don’t always have to be right… and we should question everything its how we get better as a whole..
and if you’re right all the time.. mmmm you’re starting to resemble a certain moustache man
Can't believe I'm defending Indiana Jones 4 here but there's a moment where he says "If you want to be an archaeologist, get out of the library."
Amen Brother- Thumb up ... Prof Allright
I had a client who was born in the late 1920's and grew up in depression and ww2 as a child. She grew up in hardship and after the war she went into nursing.
When I asked her why, she replied ; during the war we saw pow's marched through the town. They built roads and bridges and were welcoming to chat with residents. They talked about family back home and how they were only doing what they were told.
She could see ( she left school with no qualifications) that nursing was a benefit to humanity and such we are no different.
She became the first woman in the SW of England to be promoted to a managerial career in the nhs as top dog of nursing .
She was wise, level headed and sharp as a tack even when she died a few years ago.
She put it down to the fact that as a child she was hungry all the time. Christmas was just another day. And once you realise that only you can change the situation you are in, you only have yourself to blame if you stay that way.
She landed up marrying a German pow.
It's strange, she had seen life not from tv but lived it, her stories were like straight to the point, no BS and not filtered. She was brought up to hate Germans, but married one and she was the first person to tell me the propaganda was despicable during WW2 that she could see through it.
For the record, her garden was exceptional and she knew the common and botanical names of every plant in her garden. She died in 2022 and her memory lives on by me talking about her.
My point is, she was wise, called a spade a spade and had critical thinking.
She had no " qualifications " but saw the world differently.
She sounds like a remarkable woman.
@@robertkeyes258 indeed, like someone that would make you think about just how lucky you are to have known someone like them.
the brother on brother wars are despicable and only happen through lies, i love that you put effort in writing the story.
Corny
@@berserker5551 do your homework, stinky
Carl Sagan's message was spot on. Question everything. Encourage children to question all they are taught. It's not about right and wrong. It's about the process of asking why something is the way it is. Ignore those that ridicule you for asking "stupid" questions. Question every part of your reality, and do the legwork to find your own answers. Everything else is a distraction to keep you complacent.
The signature on my email said Play Fair, Play Nice, and Question Everything.
I didn't know I was quoting Sagan... I'm still not sure, I should check.
Na, it fits my bias. 🙂
I read somewhere a long time ago that the earth was created for the instruction of the soul. Basically it's a school.
A distraction from what to make you compliant with what?
Thats a decent start. Considering public schools and universities are now modern day indoctrination factories of approved narratives and thought.
And even better regarding ecouraging kids to wonder: a parent having to explain everything gets another chance to analyse their own biases and reasons.
“You may not win many arguments, but it won’t matter. For even losing arguments will become a victory that moves you towards the far grander prize of truth.” 🔥🔥🔥
" Who lack the capacity for the mental gymnastics required to justify such intricate delusions".
Suddenly I don't feel so bad.
That's a keeper.
Delusions are fictional. Justify in place of?
@bunk95 I think it means to justify their actions taken that were initiated by their delusion. 🤷♀️ I could be wrong. Since I'm not sure what you meant 😅
@@samlafontaine8552 thats not justify. The thought delusion?
I dispute the term "lack of capacity", there are those of us who have plenty of capacity but refuse to join in the bs games so many play.
That phrase caught my attention too. Perhaps replace “justify” with “rationalize”?
A lot of people forget that the original conception of a liberal arts education primarily involved the development of one’s character through education. This goes all the way back to figures like Plato. The expectation was not just increased knowledge and proficiency in academic skill sets, but the development of a person as a person. The omission of this educational purpose today is one of the biggest problems with modern western academia.
The humanities have been academia's biggest loss. It's purpose was also to teach students how to think for themselves.
Well said.
@@echopeakbicycling85 And now it teaches them to not think at all.
Being taught how to think critically, and apply multiple sets of ideas to a problem doesn't create "docile competent workers" which is what education has been for the last hundred years.
Let there be Light.
Something I noticed several years ago and have tried to actively apply ever since is, if I hear a piece of information and I have strong emotional reaction to it that's the signal to take a step back and look at all the facts and other information before forming an opinion or "taking a side." Also, life is too short to die on every hill.
Yes, exactly. I've noticed this too, it's also a good idea to understand why it emotionally triggers you. That's at least what I do along with what you mentioned.
I think this is a key to peace. Good for you.
This is fabulous advice!!!
@Azathoth43 -- "Also, life is too short to die on every...." Why is this comment cut off???? Pls add the rest of your comment.
Life is too short to die on every hill. Sometimes it's good just to let things go.@@myggggeneration
Some random thoughts: The univariate fallacy at 7:11 is different from the continuum fallacy. In the case of the cat and the monkey, there are no cat-monkeys just cats or monkeys. The two endpoints are well defined but no spectrum exists. For red and blue, there is a spectrum of colours between them but in terms of human perception the majority of people would be able to distinguish between red objects and blue objects. Despite the existence of a spectrum, we can still distinguish the end points. Many things in nature can be distinguished using so called multivariate analysis, for example principal component analysis (PCA). No one thing distinguishes a healthy river from an unhealthy one but once many different properties of a river are measured, PCA will show a strong difference between healthy and unhealthy. The same sort of analysis shows a strong sexual dimorphism in humans but any one property, for example hair length or height will not.
If you have a Y chromosome, you are a male.
I never believe anything comes out from a jewish mouth, dan kahan for example!!
Intelligence is overrated, while honesty is underrated.
truth is underrated, really
Orienting yourself toward the pursuit of truth no matter where it leads you is the most intelligent way to live.
Omg the truth of this statement, but if you also add ignorance it is more encompassing of reality despite sounding contradictory
If people were honest about their inteligence, 99% of humanity would be classed as knuckle draggers. It's not what you know its who you know and nepotism reigns supreme in todays world!! Some of the most wealthy people on this planet are some of the most inbred dumb fuckers known, but being born into money and employing bright people has always dug them hugh riches!! And greedy people work for them!! Humanity is bizarre and absurd!!
Intelligence is just one of many tools.
For a boxer, it's like being fast or strong or agile.
None of those attributes individually guarantee success for a boxer.
Intelligence is the same thing.
Determined people appear sexy. Thoughtful people appear insecure. That's why control is handed over to stubborn people in our society.
Is there any way out?
Finding the way out of this might be the cure for most issues holding us down. Problem is, that the majority of al humans seem to be more concerned with whatever clothes some kardashians or other loudmouthed morons wear.
I think that thoughtful people seem insecure because they will think about it instead of just making a stubborn decision first.
No, the most qualified was never found in politics, ever.
@@bestill365you are not immune
Certain industries like media or politics are somewhat inherently image focused though
We live in a world that is drowning in information, but starving for wisdom.
Perfect
information isn't the same as knowledge but yeah
@@altrag3748exactly the point
So much information about this and that, but what do we truly know? Chances are, not much
You live in a world where sounding dramatic for likes should be considered a profitable job.
...I think that's also called "The news".
@@DeleteMyas not about being dramatic. It’s just reality. This has nothing to do with propaganda media.
I used to work in a bank. The amount of doctor and professors falling for scam is alarming.
If you ask me what truly makes someone smart is always questioning and challenging what is real.
Smart is understanding and/or picking up a given set of rules taken at face value quickly and intuitively.
Wise is slowly but surely extracting a sense of perspective and an internal auditing service from every formative experience you've ever had, and learning to apply the axioms thereof universally.
They have very little to do with each other on balance.
Like how Jaden Smith wonders if our eyes are real?
On top of that, leading with facts and not predefined biases. Someone can always question something sound and find something wrong with it because nothing in the world is absolute, or someone can always go in with an agenda (this happens not just in politics but also in science). But if someone can let the conclusion be data-driven, then the conclusion from the challenge will be more sound as well.
What is real? How do you define 'real'? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
Couldn't resist quoting Morpheus 😁
“Each of us lives dependent, and bound by our individual knowledge, and our awareness. All that, is what we call reality.”
-Itachi Uchiha
“A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open.”
Some people's minds are so open that their brains fall out
Smart people believe in stupid things because they don't know this 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🌳
An open parachute is not much use on ground level. Indeed, becomes just a burden.
And you'll never know if it works until you deploy it and use it
@@jarbear7000😁 what I was about to write 👌.
"Being curious makes us humble" that's a great line.
I agree because I know I'm both curious and humble.
Sadly this video isn't very humble itself. Maybe ask someone who is left leaning about what being woke is about instead of just taking this video's word for it, preferably someone who is actually knowledgeable on the subject. This video is heavily biased and the whole point of it is to setup the strawman at the end.
and being humble makes us curious too!
@@VodShod it appears you know some stuff about woke, could you explain to me like I'm five? (actually a subreddit name, It's not an insult it just means you need to do... um... in-depth explanation I guess)
@@chaomatic5328 For people on the left woke is just a term referring to actually paying attention to injustices done to others which you were previously oblivious to.
Currently republicans use woke to refer to any situation where a minority is in a position of success, they claim that any minority has to have only succeeded due to "diversity hire", and that any minority that has a job which requires high level of skill must be only there due to "woke ideology". Maybe you can figure out why yourself, it is rather obvious in many cases, in other cases people just are parroting what they heard from other republicans.
this is a situation where a group of people with a lot of money and a social network arm create a narrative using a strawman to attempt to muddy the waters and demonize their opponents. An clear example of something like this is: like factory owners from the 1870s spreading propaganda that the push to have emergency escape doors was just an effort to support greedy workers in their organized attempt to steal from the righteous business owners.
This video is along the same lines, although it does have the Prager U style of obfuscation which gives half truths and makes leaps of logic to push a certain argument, all while giving a veil that it is discussing something that isn't controversial, they also use round about methods of describing what they are talking about. For instance instead of saying outright that you shouldn't trust experts in their fields you start with how intelligent people have been found to have bias then conflate bias with delusion. Claim that intelligent people are as susceptible to it as ignorant people, then slowly twist that into making it look like intelligent people are much more delusional than any other group, then demonize education and make claims that education is all about supporting delusions, then as a guise of "examples" make strawman arguments towards groups you want to demonize while claiming both sides have issues and never giving any example from a side the maker supports. Then use self help statements about curiosity and being humble and a disclaimer of trying to avoid bias to complete the veil of innocence.
We define cats and monkeys by their genetics and taxonomy.
•Gender/sex may be defined by chromosomes, reproductive functions, behavior and hormones, present organs, etc.
•Generally people believe if your cells have XX chromosomes, you're female. If you have XY chromosomes, you're male.
•This excludes those with monosomies, trisomies, tetrasomies, etc. of the 23rd pair, such as those with X, XXY, XYY, XXXYY, etc. chromosomes. Chimeras also exist, where some cells are XX and others are XY.
•Some say organs are what define a male or female. A penis, testes, etc. for a man, and a vagina, ovaries, etc. on a woman.
•This excludes those who were born with parts of both or are missing parts.
•With this idea comes the belief that surgery to replace your reproductive system can change your gender.
•Some believe hormones and behavior defines gender. Things like a gentle nurturing nature being seen as female, and an aggressive protective nature being male. Estrogen, progesterone, etc. being female, whilst testosterone and adrenaline being male.
•This idea suggests that you view all hunters, lumberjacks, etc. as male, and nurses, bakers, etc. as female.
•With this idea comes the belief that if you can change your hormones, you can change your gender.
One who believes gender is defined by all of the above simultaneously must also believe in a spectrum, as someone may be born with all of the characteristics of a man, but also have a pair of ovaries and XXY chromosomes.
Whether by culture or by science, gender/sex is reasonable to define as a spectrum. Cats are born from cats and may either birth cats or not birth at all. Monkeys are birthed from monkeys and may birth monkeys or not birth at all. Cats and monkeys may never reproduce together, making their difference clear beyond reasonable doubt.
The problem with being humble and curious is that most everyone else is not. You will be an outcast and misunderstood. You must be strong to carry your own convictions. The world does not have to be close minded and selfish, but those in power pump out that nonsense. And the heard, fearing being cast out, will go along with debauchery. "You have to understand, most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."
Begin humble means keeping for yourself.
10:27 “Teaching about misinformation will make people dismiss facts as disinformation while teaching them logic will make them use it selectively for what they want to believe.”
The video is so deep and insightful but finished with simple and practical conclusions. Amazing stuff.
UA-camr is utterly clueless - you cant argue with the fact Sociaists have videos literally named 'Top 10 Misconceptions dull dimwits think about Equity' and this video is literally quorting them. Nice dunning kruger effect, extra funny if they talk about 'Smart And Dumb'
@@slevinchannel7589 This response is an example of irony.
@@legokirbymanchannel My reply is literallly refering the 'objective fact' that Conservatives and Right-Wingers have such a blatant War-on-science they literally gotta pretend in a 'rerally transparent, easy-to-deubnk way' that "THE LEFT HATES SCIENCE AN HAS A WAR ON IT",
which even this video lowkey refers
You think your snarkyness or bad-manners make this reality go away? Honey, you cant tell most ofyour Beliefs to aS Scientist without them laughing you outta the room; face what that means already. Your so sad and pathetic you cant even LISTEN to Science-UA-camrs talking about EVEN NON-political stuff, righhhhttt?
...Let alone Leftist-Channels exploring Conservative-Fuck-Ups like the aptly-named "The GOP-led House is really embarassing-itself"
@@legokirbymanchannel Conservatives and Right-Wingers have such a blatant War-on-science they literally gotta pretend in a 'rerally transparent, easy-to-deubnk way' that "THE LEFT HATES SCIENCE AN HAS A WAR ON IT",
which even this video lowkey refers
You think your snarkyness make this reality go away? Honey, you cant tell most ofyour Beliefs to aS Scientist without them laughing you outta the room; face what that means already. Your so sad and pat-etic you cant even LISTEN to Science-UA-camrs talking about EVEN NON-political stuff, righhttt?
...Let alone Leftist-Channels exploring Conservative-F-Ups like the aptly-named "The GOP-led House is really embarassing-itself"
Ah, Climate-Change-Denial and countless massive amounts of science-denial: ALl RIGHT-WIng-Staples but you nod your gullable head to a video that couldnt help but sprinkle-in THEIR OWN DELUSIONS, debunked into oblivion by Professor Dave's video "Science isnt Dogma, your just Stupid" into the video
“One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision.”
― Bertrand Russell
that's a good quote, but it speaks about the opposite phenomenon from this video
That sucks for me because I feel both at all times in varying ratios.
I often find that I want to respond to a comment or statement because I disagree. As I start to write a response, I begin to reason if what I write might be a fallacy or based on false information. Often before I am done with my response, I'll chose not to post.
Not because I'm intelligent, but because I don't really know.
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Just because someone is an intellectual it doesn't mean they are not stupid. Some of the most imaginative and understanding people I've known have been of so called "average intelligence".
@@jasonc5413that seems self-contradictory: in order to be an intellectual, you must be intelligent, it's a pre-requisite. and if you have creativity/imagination and understanding then by definition you are intelligent
Thomas Sowell's book "Intellectuals and Society", explains it perfectly.
Smart people think they are better than the rest of us, they think they're anointed, so to speak.
spot on! good mention of his book, thanks! :))
A bunch of charlatans who self appoint themselves as the way of shaping the lives of others and all of society, that’s what they are
On the contrary. Intelligent people wouldn't necessarily do that. People (stupid and intelligent) with big egos do that.
Sowell is quite good at times, but often wrong. He also has a big ego.
But see, in my mind being that way means you are "not smart". If that makes any sense; I currently lack the right words to fully express it.
More than likely, you have confused your beliefs with what narcissists believe, which is that they are better than everyone else, et cetera, et cetera.
Interestingly enough, narcissistic people come in the full intelligence spectrum.
The ego has much to do with intellectual misperceptions.
Humble and self aware are key to wisdom.
Yes. As a kid I was that gifted kid, but so obnoxiously arrogant it makes me cringe. But I was just on the spectrum and my niche obsession was electrical engineering, somehow. Which meant I had to learn advanced concepts at 10 to learn my autistic niche. So I appeared gifted?.
Anyway, Because this compound is still hated, or misunderstood by so many. I took LSD when I was 19, it was one of the most important things Ive ever done. It gave me the abilities to be intently self introspective, almost to a fault? I dont think I ever admitted being wrong before this.
Im 30 now and still try to work towards my intrinsic being.
I not only have no issue admitting being wrong, but I seek it out as an error correcting technique. ITs in the same wavelength as failure. Which ever since I was a child. I knew that failure was nothing more than a tool to learn. It affords you the opportunity to learn, so Ive always embraced it as that. I learned this from electrical engineering as a kid, because you learn more from a failed circuit, than one that works the first time.
@@TheMookie1590 ~~ Your statement of, " you learn more from a failed circuit, than one that works the first time. ", is spot on !
Don’t forget curiosity 💜
Something americans lack
not really,ego is about selpreservation;superegis he culprit;using that terminilogy.
"To be intelligent is to have a big engine in the car, to be rational is to have a good brake. If you never brake, you'll hit the wall. And if you have a big car, you'll hit the wall hard. You can be extremely intelligent and extremely biased. So above all, be wary of intelligent people more than others, because when they screw up, they screw up harder [...] So be wary of yourself."
This is from a French biologist I have seen on UA-cam some times ago. This video reminds me of this guy and his quote. I find it quite interesting.
UA-camr is utterly clueless - you cant argue with the fact Sociaists have videos literally named 'Top 10 Misconceptions dull dimwits think about Equity' and this video is literally quorting them. Nice dunning kruger effect, extra funny if they talk about 'Smart And Dumb'
and hey, hey, hey: whattt a coincidence, this video goes DIRECTLY to state conservative prpagana laughably easy to dbeunk like "WOKE PROFESSORS RULE THE UNIVERSITIESS AND ARE SPREADINGG BAAAD KNOWLEDGE".
No, the video has nailed your coffin, firneds and its aptly-named "Science istn Dogma, your just Stupid". Got the
spine to finish it? Haha, why am i even asking, of course not. Theres cliamte-change-deniers in the commentsection,
attracted by the Narrative here; i rest my case cause that's sooooo obvioussss.
This UA-camr i unsubtle bet will say 'Everything wrong ever'. Leftism debunks all this. Science isnt Dogma,
your jut Sutpid, fans of this conservative channel. Man, no wonder your Side is going under
As an amateur racer, I'd change it: intelligence is the powertrain, experience is your brake, rationality are your tires and the ground surface is reality.
Life is a track, and the single most important upgrade your car needs for a track is appropriate tires. Better brakes fatigue less, higher power accelerates faster, but you are hindered to do anything useful with both without a good grip.
We could extend the analogy further with emotional stability (suspension) and personality (aero and chassis dynamics), but it would get too nerdy.
I was with you, right up to when you went off on a rant against "wokism".
"Wokism" is just a label that right-wing thinkers use to stick on anyone who has progressive views. Most people who might fit into this category have a wide variety of far more "normal" views than the label would suggest. However, the label dismissively throws them in with people with extreme views. It's a dangerous and divisive "Us v Them" stereotype. On the other end of the political scale, most people who voted for Trump in the US election don't believe Hillary Clinton was a lizard woman who drank baby blood in the basement of a McDonald's restaurant! The use of the word "wokism" is extremely inaccurate and downright dangerous. The world, and the people in it, are far more nuanced. So, if as the video suggests, you are a smart person, be very aware of anyone who use terminology like "wokism"!
There's also the "fallacy fallacy", where people use their own knowledge of cognitive biases to dismiss legitimate arguments
Do you mean like this video?
@@alvinmiller9038 Exactly my thoughts.
Basically just because something is poorly argued doesn't mean it's wrong.
could you give an argumented example?
grass is green because dwarfs paint it at night. wrong argumentation but grass is still green regardless.
Curiosity and humility are the best tools against dogma and self delusion.
Winning arguments does not matter. Let go. Seek truth, grow.
Too much education, too much knowledge, not enough character. Bang on!
This video is a great service to every watcher.
Thanks.
Spot on Summary!
Are you slaves being marketed to you as arguing while theyre being tortured and killed?
Awesome comment! 99% agree 😉
It boils down to Wisdom.
Data = Knowledge in all its forms
Memory = A store of Data
Intelligence = The innate ability to acquire, recall, analyse and produce Data
Wisdom = Application of intelligence with good judgement, morals, ethics etc.
Knowledge is owning a book
Intelligence is being able to read it.
Wisdom is understanding what you read.
And wisdom can't be learned in books. It is learned by living. Oh, philosophy will teach you a great deal, but it won't answer all your questions, for that, you need experience.
How incredibly intelligent, you managed to define your premises such that they validated your initial proposition despite demonstrating no rationale or evidence for their definitions and casual chains!
9:36 "It is an explanation so idiotic that only an intellectual could think of it". Best quote ever.
That was a quote coined by - I believe - Thomas Sowell. A brilliant economist.
My grandfather dropped out of high school, joined the Navy, got a job working in a nuclear reactor after the Navy, did that for 10 years then became the head of maintenance for a massive corporation and retired nicely. The smartest man I have ever known and he didn't even have a diploma or GED. Dude could fix anything. Fro. Reactor parts to small engines to framing a house to tile work. Just built different.
Good for your grandfather. One must admit, luck & privilege were certainly on his side.
Some of the smartest people I have ever seen are like your Grandfather. They never got a higher education, but their ability to look at problems, break them down, and fix the issue was amazing. They then learned from the fixing of these problems and that has made them better men. I have this innate thing where I love to learn and do things , even if just one time. Having grown up poor also makes you extremely resourceful, which is something that rich people that go to these elite universities will never learn.
you are blessed to have such a great man for a grandfather. Its too bad he did not run for government. If we had people like him in government, things would not be such a mess.
So either you didn’t understand the video, or you’re just yapping.
People now a days will not give you a change, either you have a diploma and expercience or its there is the door. Regardless of skill.
As a "leftie" that can't stand wokeism I have given up on trying to discuss issues with so many people. Now I'm just interested in understanding how people think and come to the positions they hold.
I see so many people say that free speech is under threat and then in the next breath argue someone should be arrested for saying something they disagree with, it's fascinating.
Great video, thanks.
Damn, that resonated hard. Have you been asked how are you left and not aligned to woke nonsense?
People are to caught up in being right that they are not thinking about what is right and what might be harmful. They are not thinking. They confuse emotion for thinking and begin to believe that if they can suppress or limit speech for someone they disagree with, somehow that increases their own power in that right but the truth of it is the moment you become successful in limiting any right for those with whom you disagree with you.. You inadvertently limit and handcuff yourself in that right at the same time in the very same way.
So, those in power who are intent on deceiving and manipulation work to cause division and infighting amongst ourselves knowing full well that our unity despite our differences is the very thing that they must dismantle first. When it comes to our rights.. To assume I can take yours because we might disagree in some ways would just take away from me in the very same way. It is not a weapon that serves anyone of us well unless and only when we all have it together equally. When we become proud and divide and seek to use that weapon on one of our own just because they don’t believe and see things exactly like you and I and work to use that weapon to strike at that person or group we strike ourselves to and receive the same wounds and bleed out as well. It’s idiocy
mid-right here, same on both ends of the spectrum. I have friends on the far left and family on the far right, and I just like to observe how their brains work.
@@asdlom sounds like nothing is really at stake for you
There's nothing wrong with being on the left of the political spectrum. I apparently according to a test i did am more soc-democratically inclined but i don't consider myself an ideologue and definitely dont subscribe to the radical social democratic dogmas and believe they borderline on anarchy
Long, long ago now my mom warned me about educated fools. Best advice EVER.
@@loturzelrestaurant and you are the same. :)
Educated only means that you have learned many things that may or may not be true.
Wise means you have figured out which ones were true and which ones were not.
Intelligence and wisdom don’t always ride in the same cart unfortunately intelligence and education don’t either.
@@maythewindblow3734 You just saying that proves nothing but i suppose you dont even know what proof is. Honey, friendly reminder that Conservatism is at War with Science and all sidesk now and admit so except maybe you and this channel here
@@maythewindblow3734 You literally just lied about me. What was that meant to show anyone? That your a dunce who cant defend themselves against ANYTHING? What, i dont watch ANY Science-UA-camrs? LOLLLLL, i literally do, hahahha. Iagine just hailmerying the s-it outta the idea of a reply to me. just randomly shooting in the dark and hoping for the best
This is a beautifully done video. As I often say, "Don't strive to be kind, strive to be humble." Striving to be kind relies on a self righteous perspective on what is right or wrong. Striving to be humble will let you be question your self proclaimed notions of what is right and wrong and is the only way true kindness can reveal itself.
Stay easy and intuitive, try to be tolerant and yes, Kind. Don’t overthink it in your comfy Western paradise. That will harder than you think if you stumble into Real conflict like Horror that is the nightly international news.
Kindness is overrated. Being honest and brave matter more.
One of the important parts of our own education that we have lost is doubt. Doubt is a vital tool we use to find flaws in our thoughts and reinforce truths we know, but our culture hates the idea of doubts. Doubts are to be ignored and avoided so as to not disrupt the beliefs we are to cling to. Doubts are uncomfortable and our culture wants comfort over everything. To our culture, doubting is seen as a negative, that you have underlying biased "-isms" preventing you from blindly accepting the narrative message.
Doubt is one thing lost, I'll go one even more out there: shame. Or modesty, even.
Yes, doubt, shame, modesty, all limit of arrogance which leads to self-rationalization. One thing, however, is, are you looking for the truth or looking to be right? For my own purposes, I don't look for the truth or to be right. I look for what works, and what doesn't work. I have adopted many positions and over time seen that they just don't work. So right wingers think I'm leftist and left wingers think I'm rightist. One thing that makes EVERYONE happy is: the right denies science on climate, and the left, on gender. Took me years to get there.
@@Marci124
shame is seriously lacking in our societies
Doubt must assume that the person has to doubt themselves, admitting that what they know is insufficient. You mean people should entertain their doubts instead of believing their beliefs? Preposterous! How dare you suggest such blasphemy. My beliefs can’t possibly be wrong.
It feels good when the "truth" is simple. But the real truth never is.
There is a lot of wisdom in this talk. One of the lines that jumped out to me was, "Most goals of thinking are not to reach objective truth, but to justify what we wish to believe." And the solution...."the strongest countermeasure against bias is curiosity."
I have a mini whiteboard of quotes I like, I just took this one from the video: “Why do I really believe what I believe? What other reasons besides reason could I have?”
There is, but there is also a lot of hypocrisy here...
Ironically enough it's doing exactly what it describes, connecting things that have nothing to do with each other with half truths to create a narrative...
For example, I've never ever seen an academic claim that obesity is healthy neither exists a paper describing such a thing
@@milansvancara but their is a fat acceptance movement. a very slow movement but it exists.
@@MrChickennugget360 Depends on what you mean by fat acceptance. The only claim that came from educated background was, that a huge chunk of obese people get much worse and more obese if you call them fat and if you insult them, since stress and anxiety from the claim perpetuaes their bad behaviour connected to food, making it much less likely for them to lose weight.
*There was never an academic claim that being fat is healthy.* That was just version of few fat americans.
@@justinbuddy56 I've been wanting to ask that question many times during discussions... Usually remembering it afterwards only.
"For the eye sees not itself." Shakespeare, Julius Cesar
It's important to have friends you can disagree with and listen when they disagree with you.
I’ve never heard more projection in an After Skool video. So many of Gurwinder’s arguments are arguing with a bias as he argues against bias. I discount his opinion entirely
What's the difference between "conspiracy theories" and reality? Now it's just two months.
Historical data has shown the conspiracy theories are not conspiracy. They are reality as they have slowly unfolded
Change the wording around and it doesn't seem so crazy. "He has a theory of a conspiracy" .. interesting isn't it.
Hey... That's QUOTABLE!!
Can’t be a theory if you have evidence, wether factual or circumstantial.. that more than one person is plotting…
Honest question - I know we’ve been lied to about pretty much everything, but at what point does it become dangerous to just accept any conspiracy just because it’s a conspiracy?
So, in short: "If you master debate too much, you could go blind."
Lol. Underrated comment.
It's 1am the whole house is asleep, I burst out laughing when I came across this. Cheers
This is how Jordan Peterson evolved from being a brilliant analyst using knowledge and logic to an aggressive moron using sophisms and eristic dialectics (and sometimes even worse, simply talking more and louder than his opponents, thus, yelling them down).
@@bestill365 I've seen it in several UA-cam videos. And quite frequently I have seen him cutting other peoples arguments by simply interrupting them and talking louder. That is not how convincing or debunking works.
Brilliant, Bill... I was wrestling with what to do with the 'master debater' thing as well. You nailed it.
As a tech CEO I’ve hired hundreds of people directly. 99% of the college graduates thought so highly of themselves and were so set in their own ways, they never took the time to learn how to do things OUR way. It didn’t take long before I started favoring those WITHOUT college degrees.
Certifications + Work Ethic > 4 years of sitting in lectures
As a person who only has a an Associates degree and yet works for one of the world’s largest tech companies, I wholeheartedly agree.
I was hired at my tech company for my experience vs my degree. They didn't care I had a degree and never asked me about it. They wanted to know about my experience in the field and how that could bring value to the company.
So far, it's one of the best companies I have worked for. I'm seen as an expert in my area and also expected to keep up with the new information emerging in my field. My opinion is valuable, but I also know other people have great ideas and opinions too. Sometimes, another person's idea or opinion is what we go with because it is more sound. That level of thinking doesn't come from degrees, it comes from experience. (Many of us have lots of experience while less than half have degrees)
I've often heard it's better to hire someone w little to no experience so you can train them to do it a specific way. Overcoming old habits is a challenge, especially if they're so set on being right.
CEOs are fictional. You think you hired a slave?
Excellent Video! Thank you. Even if someone has the understanding necessary to create this video, it doesn’t guarantee that they have the diction and communication skills to clearly explain these phenomena. PS my favorite line: “an idea so idiotic that only an intellectual could think of it.” :-)
"master debater" was unexpected term in what I had assumed would be a serious discussion. nice touch of levity.
Masterbater
It's pretty childish, And undermines the essay.
@@kevdaag2523Then what term should be used to distinguish them from noob debaters?
This is so good. I was a builder and would tell the apprenticed to be teachable (humble) and curious. Don’t be afraid to ask questions, the only stupid question is the one you didn’t ask.
I worry that my apprentice is a bit too full of himself sometimes. He's OK for the moment because he's really obviously incompetent at pretty much everything, so he has to listen... You can see that he thinks pretty highly of himself though and I worry he'll become a PIA once he starts to learn a bit and starts to think he knows everything.
IDK what you do about it though.
@@stevem815
You can't teach someone who already knows everything.
If he thinks he knows something, he won't learn anything new about it.
Thing is, it's way too late to teach him a good attitude; his parents were responsible for that. Now you can only hope he decides to learn that on his own.
I'd sooner keep around a "dimwit" with a good (teachable) attitude any day of the week. You should too and you already know why.
Hope it works out with him.
I think the real problem is social media. Before SM you had to go out and learn what you were interested in. And when you spoke you had an understanding a little deeper than others and we learned from each other. Now days everyone can pretend they know more about a subject than they actually do. But they get upset hoping their frustration will suffice as intelligence. It’s insane. There’s so much more to explain.
... and every online 'debate' descends almost immediately into personal attack.
On the other hand, internet is the extremely powerful way to gain and spread knowledge. Yes, it could be used both for spreading truth and lies (and I personally had seen a lot of examples when lies too were spreading everywhere until one smart person found out that it's actually not true), but in essence it does make truth spread significantly faster than it was before the internet. It also gives people more opportunities to proof themselves wrong, since a lot of scientific knowledge is open in the internet
@@akeem2983 It's not just the speed: in the internet age, reputation means nothing. Having been wrong a dozen times- a hundred times- before is not impediment to pumping out BS and finding a willing audience.
Until the 1990s, politicians had to resign, media figures were sacked, liars were sent to oblivion and remembered by the public for being liars (thus discouraging others).
Politicians, news channels, celebrities promoting everything from science to cooking, put great stock in being seen to be honest.
The internet has freed us from consequences, from the guiding morality of (the better part of) society.
@@lllordllloyd Thats even the case in real debates today. As soon as they can't defend their arguments, they get into emotional rants and attacks. There is no disciplin and emotional distance in today debate culture.
@@prometheus9096 Very true. A twin of this is personalising a debate about history or philosophy. "I didn't kill those natives, why are you making me feel guilty?"; "Children do better with a parent at home? How dare you undermine our right/need to both work long hours!". Folks, it isn't about you (but feel free to reflect later on a personal level).
This video is remarkable for many reasons. One of the biggest ones are that it is guilty of propagating the same biases, beliefs, and fallacies that it also (rightfully so) warns against. Most people in the comments are unaware of it, but a few have pointed them out, and my guess is that the "herd mentality" will make most people side with the ones that accept all statements in the video as gospel. Ironic, isn't it?
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."
Correct.
It's a Spiritual matter. Everyone has a belief of something which determines their understanding of their action, but what belief is true?
Examine the beginning of life and death. Truth is known in their understanding.
Finish it
Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
@@BrettJones-k5u Ah, yes, Climate-Change-Denial and countless massive amounts of science-denial: ALl RIGHT-WIng-Staples but you nod your gullable head to a video that couldnt help but sprinkle-in THEIR OWN DELUSIONS, debunked into oblivion by Professor Dave's video "Science isnt Dogma, your just Stupid" into the video
@@Not_Mussolini_Is it wrong for an artist to paint birds and flowers? Grasshoppers and honeybees? If so, how is it okay for Muslims to make humanoid robots in the image of man? Or Christian societies to do the same?
Bro this video is so real, he's talking about everybody but me!
pfp matches the comment
"Other people are so wrong. Couldn't be me."
I’m kinda glad I’m not smart and very curious
so true frfr 😭
Lol, nice one
I find it amazing that some people see sex, which is pretty much binary, as a spectrum - and then some people (such as Robin DiAngelo in her book) see race, which is a spectrum, as binary (white / non-white).
No one sees sex as a spectrum. Gender on the other hand, is seen as a spectrum. Sex has more to do with biological attributes that are associated with physical features. Gender is a social construct that has more to do with neurological characteristics and behaviors than physical attributes.
@@jadedstargazerthat distinction was fabricated whole cloth and did not gain popularity even within academia untill the 80s.
@@HeraBek I don't think anyone has a motive to fabricate the condition of being transgender. Least of all that Republican politician who was forced to confront it because it was becoming apparent to him that he had a trans daughter.
thinking a bit categorizing people in white/non white sounds pretty racist
@@jadedstargazer "No one sees sex as a spectrum"
This is patently false. If you disagree wit the position just say that instead of trying to disappear it.
Well done video. I absolutely LOVE that he stressed that if we want to get to objective truth, we don't need more studies and more money, but that we need people who of the right character. Who have the humility to freely admit when they're wrong, and the curiosity to investigate if they are.
As my mom and dad used to tell me, "There's no shame in being wrong, your human. The shame is in refusing to adjust your belief in the face of evidence." Or nowadays the refusal to even look at contrary evidence since algorithms are all to happy to keep us in our silos.
As my dad would often say when things went tits up, "you gotta be pretty smart to do something that stupid." Or another of his favorites, "you know just enough to get all the way into trouble but only halfway out."
Likewise, "Nothing can be made foolproof, because fools are so ingenious."
I remember in the 90s the accusation was always that without religion people would be rational and open-minded. Here we are a few years later as more people have become atheist and those same people have invented the most absurd beliefs and enforce them with fervor upon others.
We really are our own worst enemies
The waste humans marketed as enemies?
I'd argue that wokeism is the new religion of the 21st century, they certainly act like religious fanatics did, like the bigots who burned Beatles albums because John Lennon said The Beatles were more popular than Jesus...the wokes do the same kinda thing, they "cancel" people for doing and saying things they don't like, they look for things to get offended by (think Satanic panic but in reverse)
Religion is not the reason. My country has majority atheist/non-believers, and the current woke AND conservative discourse (USA) is seen as pure nonsense here. On the other hand, most people in my country had enough of societal experiments for a lifetime... Not so in the west. Maybe it's time for forty years of a total shitshow on your part so you can get it out of your system.
You say atheists have invented the most absurd beliefs and enforce them with fervour upon others. Funny, because from my perspective as an atheist, it’s religious people that do this. This cognitive bias is a minefield.
It’s a common lie people believe that your philosophical/religious beliefs determine your intelligence.
Not realizing the difference between believing, thinking, and knowing is a huge problem.
There are only two mistakes that one can make on the path to truth: Not starting and not going all the way.
This is great, the 2 mistakes. Well stated
Don't forget humility, although arguably is included with going all the way
I found this very thought provoking. Thank you.
A place like Harvard is filled with very smart, ambitious and politically careerist folks, so admitting that they might be wrong in a place which is defined by "intelligence" is a heavy pill to swallow. On top of that it is even harder for people to admit their mistakes because they collectively are very good at rationalizing their errors in thought...so a bunch of really smart academics at Harvard cannot possibly be wrong, right?
Many people from such places like Harvard have been proven to be wrong by others.
What has helped me is being on either side of the political spectrum at some point in my life and realizing it's all the same control machine. No politician is your friend, even your favorite one
the lesser of the evil's is still evil
But the 'lesser' is STILL less.
But which evil is indeed lesser?
I remember in grad school that my advisor would admonish me whenever I used the word “believe” when describing data or information. He argued that “belief” requires no evidence so avoid the phrase “I believe …”. This practice made me, through my life, to be more critical in evaluating information and adopt an epistemic philosophy.
an econ professor conditioned us not to use the word "should" when discussing topics. That alone changed my mindset more than anything else in his class.
I use "I think" a lot because only fools speak in absolutes and a true intellectual understands that nothing is as simple as "black and white"
How is your advisor so bone headed? Regardless of our epistemic system we all believe in things like the sun consistently rising aka induction
@@omarclunis2466 Because 'the mind' /intellect uses 'beliefs' like foundation stones to be built on and to be fought over. Most minds HATE being wrong. He was training them to think openly and widely, before blindly believing without the full facts, just because they fit a current convenient desired outcome. Were you born with the knowledge that the sun rose every day? Many humans in times before, believed you had to worship the sun 'so it rose every day'...
Eh.
You have to believe in data. There is all sorts of potential faults, if you put a lot of effort into it… “ belief” is required to deem it representative of larger populations.
The next step toward being humble: stop drawing those you disagree with as caricature fools with boxes on their heads and yourself as a sage floating in the sky.
Humble? So if a man tells you he is a woman you say nothing and accept him as a woman? If a man tells you that you must accept his god as being your “savior” or get burned in his hell you say nothing? Be a pushover if you want, I will never allow be silent and accept such DumbFCKRY to be pushed on me.
He’s young. Deep, inescapable humility hasn’t found him yet.
I don't draw myself. I'm not this nice to look at... But i do this annoying Thing, called THINKING. Well, I know it has fallen out of Favor lately - but I'm old School.
God is a 3 foot tall maleGoatFCKR.
So where do we go next?
If a person is curious and lets go of their ego, questions their own beliefs and tries to be humble. Then there is a possibility that this person could come to understand one or more of the problems facing the world.
If a second person remains incurious, sticks solidly to the belief they think is correct and disregards humility, then presumably this task becomes much harder.
However, only the second person would be thought of as being able to wield power. People will gravitate towards the person who says "The solution to this problem is easy and I know it" over the person who says "The solution to this problem is complex and I don't know if I can solve it, but I will try".
Time and again we vote for people who appear strong, determined and sure of their beliefs, even though these are probably the very people who might be least curious and therefore most prone to delusional thinking.
So, where do we go next?
Yes, I resonate with what you say - I am reminded of the covid response. None of the political 'leaders' could say, "well, we don't know yet for sure but it looks like....and we will revise as we know more". Instead, they all acted in an authoritarian manner proclaiming "absolute truth" and worked with the media to deplatform anyone who dared to disagree with the official narrative. My whole view of how society functions changed during that time. You are right, we need leaders who are humble and who can change their minds with new evidence.........but that's not how the political sphere seems to work, sadly.
The problems of the world are actually very easy to fix as they stem from corruption on the highest levels. We need to hold them accountable, but you all know they won't step down without a fight. Have you ever wondered about the people who you are not allowed to vote for?
@@Willy_Tepes Sadly, I think it would be a fight that would never end. In the US, you could take the words "Corruption on the highest levels" and apply them to both Biden and Trump (I think they might fit in both cases). And if you did manage - somehow - to dethrone both of them, there would be plenty of others waiting to take their place.
The same ambition and determination (read Psychopathy if you prefer) that drives these people to the top of the pile also ensures that the wrong people will always be in charge. Perhaps it is also true that power itself adds to the corruption.
I liked Douglas Adams take on this - his quote from a conversation between Zarniwoop and the ruler of the universe went as follows:
“You don’t understand that what you decide in this shack of yours affects the lives and fates of millions of people? This is all monstrously wrong!”
“I don’t know. I’ve never met all these people you speak of. And neither, I suspect, have you. They only exist in words we hear. It is folly to say you know what is happening to other people. Only they know, if they exist. They have their own Universes of their own eyes and ears.”
Our leaders believe they know of the universes of our own eyes and ears. In truth, nobody else knows what we know. And ultimately, anyone who claims to know is going to be lying.
You say "Time and again we vote for people who appear strong, determined and sure of their beliefs" isn't continuing to do the very same thing and expecting a different result the very definition of a fool? And proves the fact that some 80+% of voters, regardless of who they vote for don;t have a clue? A majority will vote for whichever party promises them the most from the public purse.
@@goodtimea6 I can explain the problem. Firstly: We are given approved alternatives to vote for. Some candidates are banned from running or are stopped in other ways because their politics are a threat to the system (usually called a threat to democracy).
Secondly: The population has been brainwashed from birth by media and the education system to reject anyone who proposes real solutions, and we have been conditioned to accept that politicians lie and break their promises.
Thirdly: Censorship ensures that the alternative is banned from public debate..
“Without the right personal qualities more education will not make you a master of your own personal biases, it will only make you a better servant of them.”
That’s a quote. Harvard needs to put THAT over the door.
Harvard is fictional. A place lied about as Harvard should do what?
As someone who envies creatives, I just want to give a lot of credit to the artist of this channel for such original and expressive depictions.
absolutely brilliant stuff, but should we heap praise on natural talent?
Artists from fiction that includes UA-cam outside of fiction?
This is awesome! Curiosity is definitely the driver for me in my epistemology. Just in the last two years my views have changed so much because of that, this video sums it up so well.
It takes a strong person to admit they are wrong. It's easy to blame others or to claim ignorance, but it's much harder to realize you have been improperly educated and to accept your own short comings.
Great video, and very well put. Thanks for putting this information out for people to see.
Absolutely!
Fear. It requires a complete removal of fear.
Not aggression. Fear.
Fear root meaning was "to perform, try, risk, experiment."
@@jimx45 From Middle English feer, fere, fer, from Old English fǣr, ġefǣr (“calamity, sudden danger, peril, sudden attack, terrible sight”), from Proto-Germanic *fērō, *fērą (“danger”), from Proto-Indo-European *per- (“to attempt, try, research, risk”).
Your point exactly?
Or are you here to be a perfect example?
@@Lee-ed9wv I am God
@@jimx45 🤣
Educated to win an argument not look at subjects rationally. That shook me.
The Greeks called it 'sophistry' and the term survives in our language with the same disparaging meaning (although I say 'survives', maybe one person in 100 would know what you mean). It's interesting that as the Greeks formalised in philosophy how to divine truth through dialogue, they so quickly recognised clever dialogue can miss uindamental truth as well.
A false and cynical dichotomy.
good points , but using "wokeism" as an example rang alarm bells , then in the end this is the guy that wrote "in defence of isreal"
I'm happy that it's finally becoming "safe" to push back against this madness.
For real the tide is shifting, it better not shift too far
Is this channel demonetized? I don't recall ads running.
Indeed. I think it's gotten to the point where the negative consequences have started impacting a critical mass of people. So concerns can't just be waved aside anymore.
It’s ironic that the people that claimed to stand for compassion and inclusiveness made people scared to talk
@@wabalubadubdubdub The pendulum has been swinging since the beginning. If left alone, it will eventually stop but it is constantly being pushed about.
Wow... "In an effort to protect our chosen identity, we stay wrong." 🤯 This video is so high value, I hope many "intelligent" people find it.
I would rather have the less enlightened watch
WE TWO DID, AND THAT MOVES US FORWARD!
This is why it’s so important to stop with all this identifying everything and everyone with labels!
This practice is sooooo limiting and is everywhere.
Why place oneself or anything into a box that end up being a coffin.
Sync!
My granfather was a veteran of WW2,and a Mayor in the UK.
when imparting his wisdom,he said always question the middle word in life and always remember there are no pockets in shrouds, words that stuck.
A heartfelt thank you to After Skool for your time and effort for your content.
Its very much appreciated.
Such a great comment to an equal video. Cheers all
I have no clue what "the middle word" refers to and why one should focus scrutiny on that. Do other words get a pass on scrutiny or what?
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@@thulyblu5486 the middle two letters are i and f, if.
@@garlic9763 ah OK it's connected to "Life" and pretending that there is another word in the middle of the word life. Strange train of thought to me, I wouldn't have gotten that without explanation, thanks.
Excellent video! Especially on the point about being excellent at winning a debate rather than seeking truth!
The thing is that bias isn’t necessarily a bad thing. If one has a biased belief they might want to try to prove that belief using empirical evidence. What is important however, is to test your biased beliefs, arguments and evidence AGAINST those who do not hold those beliefs in peer-reviewed studies. The problem today is that the bias has a consensus status where not holding onto it will lead to being ‘canceled’. Thus, fear has a great hold over the scholarship.
If scholars were allowed to take a dissident voice without fear of their careers, then bias might not be a bad thing. It’s when tolerance doesn’t apply to different ideas that we see the dangers of biased beliefs
Great video. There is definitely a lack of curiosity and humility. We hold our opinions too strongly, afraid to be wrong.
Two things I tell my kids:
1) A day gone by without learning something, no matter how trivial, is a wasted day.
2) Don't be afraid to be wrong. Allowing ourselves to be wrong can set us on the path to being right.
We often learn more by our mistakes that our successes.
@stevejacobs9320
Absolutely. If we never mess up, never make a mistake, then we never grow or improve.
there is no way u live a full day without learning something, no matter what you do, who u are, etc. YOu always learn something even if u think u do not, you can learn even when sleeping if u know techniques to remember dreams and if u learn to trust ur intuition that excels during sleeping. You learn reflexes or abilities to solve riddles when u play computer games (which a lot of ppl considers wasting time), you even learn something when ur drunkard drinking whole day - yap, drunkards also have some wisdom in them, for example how to deal with hangover or how to creat alcohol out of nothing, or last longer when drinking :) But hey, it is some knowledge right? Even when u watch TV whole day u can learn something, some concepts u see in TV can make u reavaluate your thinking- even if u watch stupid films, something can trigger a thought in ur brain that will change everything.
For me, biggest lessons of my live and the biggest wake up calls came from totally trivial activities and not from studying books etc. I find it that brain cannot be working 100% power to learn really important things, I mean like life changing things. For me it almost always happens when I allow brain just to flow whevrever it wants.
So I think u stress ur kids too much about this.
it is impossible to learn if you are always right because being always right means you already "know everything".
Every moment of every day, every action, we are either growing towards God or we are becoming more degenerate.
Memorizing things does not make you smart or intelligent.
Making good choices and learning the truth does.
KNOWING SELF
"life.. is Roblo- wisdom"
-Tolkien
And actually learning from your mistakes not just repeating them.
@@NoQualmsTheArtist Please define what you mean by "LEARN," so I understand how to *not* make those pesky mistakes that I seem to make every day. :D
@@youbetyourwrasse pretty easy, don't make the same mistake again 😉👈🏾
The most dangerous thing is when these people try to argue for something that has real world consequences like mass immigration into europe while also arguing these people are totally not from another society that dont value the same standards as we do.
Humility always feels difficult to achieve because it seems like it has been compressed under heavy layers of sediment of narcissism, selfishness, and personal biases accumulated through our lives.
Humble people tend to be exploited and mistreated. Sadly our society rewards and even accommodates arrogance. Seeing humble people getting trampled on makes people not want to be humble.
Humility is there, when the efforts to 'ACHIEVE' humility, come to an end.
Trying to achieve humility is an act of self concern.
Narcissism, selfishness and personal bias, are all, pretty much, the same thing.
The Selfish cannot know humility.
If the selfish find it difficult to 'achieve' humility, it is because they have no idea what it is.
@@quinnfletcher3906 It's a defense mechanism of the ego, hence the ending part of the video. You can't feel hurt when losing an argument when you let go of your self-image. Those self defense mechanisms are also what keeps people from standing up for themselves, as some people may think wrong of them if they do.
virtue does not know it is virtuous @@bh_486
Man, do you sound humble! Well done!
To quote the apostle Paul, "Knowledge puffs up...love builds up..." And "Without love I am nothing." It is not humility that sets is straight, but love. And a particular kind of love: that demonstrated at the cross of Christ. What you justify as a "natural evolutionary impulse" is merely the symptom of this underlying nature. That is why we can never escape bias unless God performs a miraculous transformation of the heart to incline it to himself. You're almost there. Consider these things. And finally, "Ask and it will be given to you. Seek and you will find. Knock and the door will be opened to you". God's salvation from sin / bias is a free gift for anyone who will believe.
Love of Christ ain't possible without humility though.
@@DanielGrimm-gm4ud Yes. I agree. But God first loved us by sending his son and choosing us in him before creation. God's love enables our love, which enables humility. You are right, they go hand-in-hand. But no amount of human effort without grace from God can muster even a shred of humility. "Trying to be humble" without humbling yourself before God as the ultimate Truth, is no humility at all. All good gifts come from God, including humility, so that none can boast in thier accomplishments. The narrator of the video does allude to this in part, by not claiming to be humble. Perhaps there is a kind of humility in trying to be humble and admitting that you're only trying. I'm just saying that there is true humility seen in, and attainable only through, the gospel of Jesus Christ. The crucifixion defined humility as we know it today. For the skeptic, that's worth noting and investigating further.
Paul was a “false apostle”. Do your research…the truth is out there 💡
@@dalebattaglia Be careful of getting caught up in conspiracies. That's just not true. I have done my research and found the scriptures to be true.
You are correct. WISE words.
Thank god were not too afraid to have this conversation anymore
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@user-zv8md9xv8c wanna know my secret? *im always afraid*
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"We should stop dehumanizing fat people"
"Erm, glorifying obesity much?"
I've built a significant potion of my adult identity on the label of "integrity". I espouse it as unique and the most important part of who I am. A little over a year ago, I made a mistake at work, and I had an opportunity to lie about it when confronted by that mistake. As I was known as honest and trustworthy, I could have gotten away with it. However, in that moment the words slipped out of me as easy as water, and I admitted to my fault. It is a very strange feeling to knowingly admitting to your mistakes and faults when there is real loss on the line. I'd lost the confidence of a person I considered a friend through my carelessness.
All that to say that I understand the need for people to lie. They lie to other people, and then they lie to themselves to mask the guilt of the initial lie to avoid pain and fear. The West is full of liars, and they are so wrapped up in the lies they tell the world that they believe them and live a in a world built on very shaky ground. They get violent when someone shakes those foundations because of the fear of it all crumbling around them.
At least you didn't loose the trust from yourself by knowing you're not a liar who sells out thruth.
I create my own reality and it's fantastic. My only rule is "be nice to people"
It's actually horrifying how much of human interaction and society is based on lying. It then becomes entierly comical how many people want "honesty" in their relationships, while at the same time honesty is pretty much unviersally punished and carries negative consequences for the truth teller. Most basic example is if you simply don't feel like attending and how if you DON'T make up a white lie for why you won't be attending a social gathering will be seen as disrespectful and instead of rewarding you for clearly communicating you are punished by being excluded the next time around due to others being unable to handle rejection and taking it personally.
It's a cultural thing. Us germans are, in comparison, not only to americans but to many neighbouring european countries, brutally honest, as you would probably experience it. Our "how do you do" is a little more honest, therefor not used that often, and you can tell a little about your normal daily struggles without breaking the social codes already.
Being able to confront your social group with inconveniences is key to productivity. You need those personalities in any given society. People like you (and me, btw) are important additions to any social group.
“I may not be a smart man, but I know what love is” - Forrest Gump
lol!
I tried criticising details of this video and noticed a dilemma, so I deleted the original comment in favor of this one.
For a message to spread effectively on this platform, it needs to be optimized for easy, emotional recognition. The top comments here are almost all fuzzy one-liners, emotional stories, or well-known statements people already agree with. Mass voting and algorithms quickly hide content that requires attention or has a slow dopamine response. On top of this comes the culture that is subject of the video. As a result, deeper criticism is so extremely suppressed that its uttering is a waste of time.
My own stupidity showed when I once again had the impulse to disagree and debate in this comment section. I should really know better. For decades, I have used various forums, "social media" platforms, and the likes, and seen how too much quality of argument is inversely correlated with success. Invalid means to dumb down and deceive are rewarded, while harsh truth is punished. But yesterday, I still hadn't learned and started typing objections, forgetting the overriding meta-argument that devalues the entire approach.
For the odd one who might read to this point, there should be an unsettling implication here. If this is correct and people like me eventually learn it, the result is that we stop objecting if the context fails to reward it. Thereby, the suppression of related opinions is even more effective, exascerbating the groupthink you are subjected to if you do not adapt yourself.
You do speak of the terrible truth. A possible solution is to see the fallacy of the interent. To not view the user and the human be the same. We are void of empathy and get the worst of Paranoia in here. Intellectual discussions are more better suited with real people in real places. Most people tend to watch about rather than read off of the words of authors as well.
Truth does not lead to reward and therefore people will stop seeking it...
That's terrifying...
@@TrulyAtrocious Truly terrifying, but only the first of at least four strategies:
1) The naive: to not care about truth that much and use the nonsense to feed the own ego.
2) The repulsed: to embrace becoming grumpy, resentful, and habitually disagreeable.
3) The contrarian influencer: to find a like-minded niche that rewards going against the grain.
4) The two-faced: to seemingly go along with the irrational dynamics, but think differently.
The two-faced have the option of becoming an anointed authority, which is a moral catastrophe as they are incentivized to manipulate and outplay other people. Many politicians come to mind.
@Vandroiyll, What disagreements did you have with the video? Seeing as though you formed your ideas so well, I am quite curious to find out your thoughts. Interestingly, you can use this video’s end psychology of being curious and humble to possibly critique the video.
@ominousvirus5278 There is a lot to unpack here. For starters, I do not agree that being humble is a general virtue. Doubting one's own, fallible knowledge in the search for truth is an optimization problem. Both sides are essential: confidence and restraint, balanced with one's own fallibility in mind. Humbleness is no doubt useful to get people to like you, but if truth is the goal, more is not always better and going too far leaves you with an ugly choice: either beccome manipulative, merely pretending to be humble to get social benefits, or a doormat, yielding valuable attention to garbage claims.
To be clear, the problem which the video describes is extremely important and largely well-put. But when it comes to drawing conclusions, I suspect that the social dynamics of making a successful video are taking precedence over examining scathing realities and trade-offs. Mainly, questions of attributing vice and adjusting moral imperatives.
This whole take is avoiding the question of the limiting factor. The advice around the end concerns *how* to make yourself curious and humble. But let's do a reality check. *Why* do we have any confidence that the lack of these traits is an ultimate cause? By the sound of it, the advice would allow to straightforwardly obtain ever more of the most powerful human skill: predicting reality. If there really is a simple, smooth, gradual path to get this... then why have all our processes failed to find it? Why would we need some semi-fringe video to lead the way... and to explain the answer in just a few common opinions? After seeing the video, are we now enlightened, ready to move on a path of reason? Can the threshold to a convergent solution to human bias be even remotely that low? In short, something is deeply wrong here. This is not plausible at all; why is it even normal to smooth over this glaring issue?
There must be a systemic obstacle that is blocking gradual paths to advancing reason. And from this very video, we should already suspect what it is: a cultural context that incentivizes optimization for goals that are in conflict with objectivity. It is not just *your* ego that gets in the way. It is what Sowell (who not so incidentally gets quoted on this channel) calls the Vision of the Anointed, the prevailing vision of our culture, the standards by which we interact. It is the interplay of ego-games between many people of varying rationality. If you simply ignore the incentives and aim for truth, there will be resistance. If you let go of your ego's whims while readily accepting those of others, you need to cope with the negative consequences to stabilize the approach. The result is duplicity. Such approaches can be read about in Robert Greene's works: devaluation of honesty and the use of social dynamics for personal gain, often with no moral regards. This is technically a path to more objective truth, but ignores the question of a cooperative solution, implying that those smart enough to see the implications shall start deceiving less objective people around them, while communicating in implicit codes and protocols. Explicit description of such things is then shunned and manipulative adjustments of public messaging are regarded as normal. As should be obvious, this background of deception is then a massive hindrance to the furthering of reason.
All that said, playing soothing music while telling people to just be honestly curious and humble... and advising to "lose arguments" which is really code for accepting unreasonable social punishment... and assuring that the resulting negativity won't matter... well, it makes me want to punch through the screen. This is, in essence, just another anointed strategy, great for an influencer with an audience of millions, someone whose opinions are obviously lucrative to share. This strategy is not so likely to scale to the larger audience, which still bears the cost of naively going along, usually without the rewards in approval and paycheck.
This criticism is not very specific to this video. If anything, this one is more honest than most, by naming conflicting goals at all, rather than presupposing good intentions. But the threshold to cracking the root underlying dynamic has not been reached.
Started off interesting, then became irrational. Proving the first part.
Fools aren’t willing to learn from anyone - not even from the wise, while the wise are willing to learn from everyone - even from fools.
After Skool did a great video on stupid people :)