You reminded me of what Theodore Roosevelt said about thieves. He said, "A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad".
“Unintelligent people are more easily mislead by other people, while intelligent people are more easily mislead by themselves.” The fact that I didn’t realize this earlier is eye opening. Wow
I don't think there is much truth to this because it doesn't really fit the evidence, so it makes sense that you would not have realized it. People are social and tend to form groups. These groups use identity markers including speech patterns, specific beliefs, and actions to try to weed out people who aren't truly part of their group. This used to be a matter of survival, but now it just means people pick a social group, then change their beliefs based on their group. This is true for everyone. People who have practiced critical thinking skill in a wide variety of scenarios and who understand how to read statistics and studies, and are wiling to go to the effort of trying to prove themselves wrong will have some ability to escape this. These will almost always be intelligent people who value knowing the truth.
@@LEgregius It's not regular intellectuals who are prone to this, but rather those who get fame and clout. For example Jordan Peterson, he used to be scientific and humble, but then it spiraled down straight to science denial with fame and ego boosts.
@@LEgregius it's strange because I personally can't relate to any one social group a hundred percent but have picked up certain thoughts and behaviors from various groups, which makes me paradoxically able to talk to almost anyone
I do this too. I will say, of late I'll debate AI tools like ChatGPT because it can form any argument to a high level. It's really interesting to debate both sides of an argument with it, and see when you find yourself making more leaps in logic or using somewhat irrelevant aspects to argue against it. It won't argue like a person because there is no ideological factor guiding it, but it can make some really solid arguments that make for great food for thought.
Makes sense why colleges are the hotspots for the ideology I can't name cause my comment will be deleted. College/university is the biggest scam of the past 50 years. Anybody who is college educated will have a very hard time believing they're only smart in the subject they got their education in, while in other subjects they're not any smarter than a truck driver. I'm using truck drivers as an example because they are pretty much the punching bag for intellectuals.
Makes sense why colleges are the hotspots for the ideology I can't name cause my comment will be deleted. College/university is the biggest sham of the past 50 years. Anybody who is college educated will have a very hard time believing they're only smart in the subject they got their education in, while in other subjects they're not any smarter than a truck driver. I'm using truck drivers as an example because they are pretty much the "example" intellectuals keep using when describing lesser people.
"Without the right personal qualities, more education won't make you a master of your biases, it will only make you a better servant of them." Wow! That is so well said!
Yet sadly so many on here are too blinkered, too obsessed with buzzwords they hear their peers saying, but don't seriously care to enlighten themselves or question any thing they believe in, change is never easy in the beginning but we adapt.
So glad to see that you think of yourself as so well-spoken. (You did, however, put it in quotes, so, are we to assume it's not YOUR quote?) If so, who's is it, then?
“You may not win many arguments, but it won’t matter. For even losing arguments will become a victory that moves you towards the far grander prize of truth.” 🔥🔥🔥
For about 5 years, I fell for everything one party would say… and then I studied both sides and fell for what both believed. The only difference now, I go find why propaganda wants us to believe and who funds it.
I grew up Republican In SoCal... flipped when I saw folks losing their life savings and increase of biases. I've been a centrist for better part of 20 years. Voting in the best interest of the community I live in... my military life taught me that most folks want the same things regardless of where they live... the major issue with extreme left or right is the lack of critical thinking and self-interest vs. communal needs. Individualism failed to teach people to work on and love themselves (EQ), and instead, egoism has taken over. People who argue, only want to be right to assert their individuality (ei. Belong to a group) instead of learning to find common ground and truth. People lie to themselves a lot, unfortunately (cognitive dissonance).
That's the THE DIVINE LAW OF PRECLUSION in action.. but most of you are too closed off/blocked and/or arrogant to have ever EVEN HEARD of this immutable law.
I once had a huge s..t storm in my company, just because I asked a cutomer some really normal questions (at least normal for me). But then I was stormed by my superior, that I was wrong, because I did it so openly and showed everyone that a helpdesk doesn't know the subject... Yeah... It is difficult in the beginning to admit you don't know something. It needs to be trained, especially after being schooled all the time to "look like you are correct". It's hard, and just like After School stated - you have to remind yourself to be curious, no matter how others will think about it.
Sadly for many humans ego, vanity and fear of the unknown gets in the way. Hence faith in the unproven, for the things we don't yet comprehend, or some will never be capable of understanding there is faith based on delusion for comfort.
@@timhallas4275While you are right.. that's not how it works. I teach the universe. Free-will specifically means you are allowed to feel FALSEHOOD and TRAUMA and other ERROR in your subconscious/half-soul as TRUTH. That is literally what free-will is. - The Earth experience in general is VALID-BUT-FALSE. The experience consists of emotions so has validity.. but they are not true so that experience will be degraded over time.. just as you yourself will kill your own physical body over time by being ignorant and out of alignment with divine forces of LOVE and TRUTH. All things TRUE/LOVING (from divine perspective not mans) do not degrade and such worlds exist multiple spheres above where Earth collective consciousness resides
I have learnt through my own findings to develop an opinion: "there is no shortage of intelligent people who lack common sense". I just never thought i would see this as a subject being spoken about. Thanks for the video and explanation!
i was arguing with someone awhile back. he asked, " If you were wrong, would you want to know? if you're honest, explain to me what it would take to change your mind?". broke me as a young man. Now I ask myself that all the time, when examining my own beliefs. I also use those same two questions anytime someone wants to argue or debate. if they can't answer those questions sincerely, i just shake my head and say, " i understand." That has saved me a lot of time and frustration. 👍
ohhhhh good questions.. I had to put a comma in the second one to understand but my first thought was to pose them to my daughter since our beliefs are very different but then I had to stop and put them to myself.. this is going to take some thought.
@@planetvegan7843 bleh if you mean me, I tried not eating meat after a traumatic death but I'm a carnivore. My niece said I eat steak like an alligator =))
Me too my grandpa used to say if u were completely wrong would u want to know? and I always try really hard to understand the other sides opinions and views I really do. And I'm not afraid to admit there are some things I'm on the fence about. We're all still learning we never stop learning and who knows something could happen in one of our lives that could change our whole outlooks, ya know
Nobody was conflating the two, and you have not provided a definition for either, so this statement is as meaningless and stupid as I presume you to be
I think it's, "Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it." ~ Andre Gide. He won the Nobel Prize in literature in 1947. I liked your quote enough to seek the truth about it. True story. Trust me!
@@mcfarvo 😄 I knew I'd heard that quote or something close, but couldn't remember anything else about it. DuckDuckGo claimed to know that Bookbrowse>quotes knew all about it. I'm just a humble messenger of those claims. 👼
I watched a vid the other day with Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens and others. Someone from the audience was challenging them, kind of poorly. He was essentially being ridiculed because "facts are unfair". At the end I figured out Kirk, Owens and the others were interested in "winning debate", while the audience member was interested in learning the (whole) truth.
I don't know the video you mentioned but I'm not a fan of Owens because she comes across as very arrogant. She loves to say how right she is etc. That's not to say she's wrong about anything, I agree with much of what I've heard her say but she doesn't need to be constantly saying how great she is.
Our modern education system stifles curiosity. When I was in school, in the 1970's, we were taught to question everything, if not by our teachers, by our peers. This was an off-shoot of the 1960's, where "question authority" was a mantra. I find that young people now have little curiosity to question what they are taught. This is a credit, and I mean that negatively, to our educational system, where they have learned to prey on young people's naivety and idealism. As a result, maturity and common sense has been delayed and sometimes completely shut down in millions of people.
In college you are taught to memorize and to give back the answers that your teachers want. Except within very strict parameters you are penalized for wondering if something is really true, for questioning revealed truths or for independent thinking.
@@ankhpom9296 modern public schooling was originally for producing workers for industry - "purpose of school turned more toward economic development " (Industrial Revolution) -- dumbing down isn't a recent thing. The methods and masks used are the only real change.
This is awesome! Curiosity is definitely the driver for me in my epistemology. Just in the last two years my views have changed so much because of that, this video sums it up so well.
Something I noticed several years ago and have tried to actively apply ever since is, if I hear a piece of information and I have strong emotional reaction to it that's the signal to take a step back and look at all the facts and other information before forming an opinion or "taking a side." Also, life is too short to die on every hill.
Yes, exactly. I've noticed this too, it's also a good idea to understand why it emotionally triggers you. That's at least what I do along with what you mentioned.
Yup.. agree.. learn to take the L.. i think is the best thing.. we don’t always have to be right… and we should question everything its how we get better as a whole.. and if you’re right all the time.. mmmm you’re starting to resemble a certain moustache man
A lot of people forget that the original conception of a liberal arts education primarily involved the development of one’s character through education. This goes all the way back to figures like Plato. The expectation was not just increased knowledge and proficiency in academic skill sets, but the development of a person as a person. The omission of this educational purpose today is one of the biggest problems with modern western academia.
Being taught how to think critically, and apply multiple sets of ideas to a problem doesn't create "docile competent workers" which is what education has been for the last hundred years.
this is a really cool video! One thing I’m very grateful for is my dad teaching me to always keep an open mind ever since I can remember, it is probably one of the biggest things has helped me with reasoning and keeping a cool head in situations as well as better understand and relate to people around me no matter what they think and or believe. Also, I found this a little funny, but the video reminded me of another video out there of people trying to figure out who had the highest IQ and almost all of them got it wrong when they lined up compared to the actual scores, A few who had some lengthy degrees, ended up having the lowest IQ compared to one who didn’t even have any college education
I love admitting I was wrong about something. It's very powerful, because what can you be accused of? Let someone know when you were wrong about something, or if they were right about something. Not being able to do so is weak.
I don’t think ‘love being wrong’ is the correct approach. Stand by what you believe in and if people are trying to persuade you then you counter with facts rather than rhetoric. Enjoy talking to people with varying points and trying to find middle ground is probably what the logical people should be focused on. Regrettably it’ll be the logical people that have to do this - if we are successful we can begin to turn the tide.
Being capable of assuming a mistake and even thanking the one for pointing out requires another type of intelligence. Emotional and social intelligence. Because the Ego can get hurt and people on average do not want to feel pain. Including the emotional realization they made a mistake
I don't know, look at politics. Why don't anyone ever admit mistakes no matter how obvious it is that they made one? Probably because history tells us they are punished harder at the ballot when they do than when they don't. So is it weakness to deny mistakes? Is it intelligence? Or it simply a case of cause and effect? I don't know. But i suspect that If we started rewarding leaders for admitting to and correcting mistakes instead of punishing them, then maybe, just maybe, we would start to see more of them do it. Smart or dumb, one thing you can always trust them to do is to act in their own self interest, so if you make their interests your interests, everybody should win, in theory.
I had a client who was born in the late 1920's and grew up in depression and ww2 as a child. She grew up in hardship and after the war she went into nursing. When I asked her why, she replied ; during the war we saw pow's marched through the town. They built roads and bridges and were welcoming to chat with residents. They talked about family back home and how they were only doing what they were told. She could see ( she left school with no qualifications) that nursing was a benefit to humanity and such we are no different. She became the first woman in the SW of England to be promoted to a managerial career in the nhs as top dog of nursing . She was wise, level headed and sharp as a tack even when she died a few years ago. She put it down to the fact that as a child she was hungry all the time. Christmas was just another day. And once you realise that only you can change the situation you are in, you only have yourself to blame if you stay that way. She landed up marrying a German pow. It's strange, she had seen life not from tv but lived it, her stories were like straight to the point, no BS and not filtered. She was brought up to hate Germans, but married one and she was the first person to tell me the propaganda was despicable during WW2 that she could see through it. For the record, her garden was exceptional and she knew the common and botanical names of every plant in her garden. She died in 2022 and her memory lives on by me talking about her. My point is, she was wise, called a spade a spade and had critical thinking. She had no " qualifications " but saw the world differently.
@bunk95 I think it means to justify their actions taken that were initiated by their delusion. 🤷♀️ I could be wrong. Since I'm not sure what you meant 😅
Well done video. I absolutely LOVE that he stressed that if we want to get to objective truth, we don't need more studies and more money, but that we need people who of the right character. Who have the humility to freely admit when they're wrong, and the curiosity to investigate if they are. As my mom and dad used to tell me, "There's no shame in being wrong, your human. The shame is in refusing to adjust your belief in the face of evidence." Or nowadays the refusal to even look at contrary evidence since algorithms are all to happy to keep us in our silos.
10:27 “Teaching about misinformation will make people dismiss facts as disinformation while teaching them logic will make them use it selectively for what they want to believe.” The video is so deep and insightful but finished with simple and practical conclusions. Amazing stuff.
UA-camr is utterly clueless - you cant argue with the fact Sociaists have videos literally named 'Top 10 Misconceptions dull dimwits think about Equity' and this video is literally quorting them. Nice dunning kruger effect, extra funny if they talk about 'Smart And Dumb'
@@legokirbymanchannel My reply is literallly refering the 'objective fact' that Conservatives and Right-Wingers have such a blatant War-on-science they literally gotta pretend in a 'rerally transparent, easy-to-deubnk way' that "THE LEFT HATES SCIENCE AN HAS A WAR ON IT", which even this video lowkey refers You think your snarkyness or bad-manners make this reality go away? Honey, you cant tell most ofyour Beliefs to aS Scientist without them laughing you outta the room; face what that means already. Your so sad and pathetic you cant even LISTEN to Science-UA-camrs talking about EVEN NON-political stuff, righhhhttt? ...Let alone Leftist-Channels exploring Conservative-Fuck-Ups like the aptly-named "The GOP-led House is really embarassing-itself"
@@legokirbymanchannel Conservatives and Right-Wingers have such a blatant War-on-science they literally gotta pretend in a 'rerally transparent, easy-to-deubnk way' that "THE LEFT HATES SCIENCE AN HAS A WAR ON IT", which even this video lowkey refers You think your snarkyness make this reality go away? Honey, you cant tell most ofyour Beliefs to aS Scientist without them laughing you outta the room; face what that means already. Your so sad and pat-etic you cant even LISTEN to Science-UA-camrs talking about EVEN NON-political stuff, righhttt? ...Let alone Leftist-Channels exploring Conservative-F-Ups like the aptly-named "The GOP-led House is really embarassing-itself"
Ah, Climate-Change-Denial and countless massive amounts of science-denial: ALl RIGHT-WIng-Staples but you nod your gullable head to a video that couldnt help but sprinkle-in THEIR OWN DELUSIONS, debunked into oblivion by Professor Dave's video "Science isnt Dogma, your just Stupid" into the video
Determined people appear sexy. Thoughtful people appear insecure. That's why control is handed over to stubborn people in our society. Is there any way out?
Finding the way out of this might be the cure for most issues holding us down. Problem is, that the majority of al humans seem to be more concerned with whatever clothes some kardashians or other loudmouthed morons wear.
Carl Sagan's message was spot on. Question everything. Encourage children to question all they are taught. It's not about right and wrong. It's about the process of asking why something is the way it is. Ignore those that ridicule you for asking "stupid" questions. Question every part of your reality, and do the legwork to find your own answers. Everything else is a distraction to keep you complacent.
The signature on my email said Play Fair, Play Nice, and Question Everything. I didn't know I was quoting Sagan... I'm still not sure, I should check. Na, it fits my bias. 🙂
And even better regarding ecouraging kids to wonder: a parent having to explain everything gets another chance to analyse their own biases and reasons.
I’ve always felt that if I assume I’m wrong, or possibly don’t know all the answers, I’m more likely to see things I would have missed. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
The problem with being humble and curious is that most everyone else is not. You will be an outcast and misunderstood. You must be strong to carry your own convictions. The world does not have to be close minded and selfish, but those in power pump out that nonsense. And the heard, fearing being cast out, will go along with debauchery. "You have to understand, most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."
If people were honest about their inteligence, 99% of humanity would be classed as knuckle draggers. It's not what you know its who you know and nepotism reigns supreme in todays world!! Some of the most wealthy people on this planet are some of the most inbred dumb fuckers known, but being born into money and employing bright people has always dug them hugh riches!! And greedy people work for them!! Humanity is bizarre and absurd!!
Intelligence is just one of many tools. For a boxer, it's like being fast or strong or agile. None of those attributes individually guarantee success for a boxer. Intelligence is the same thing.
Excellent Video! Thank you. Even if someone has the understanding necessary to create this video, it doesn’t guarantee that they have the diction and communication skills to clearly explain these phenomena. PS my favorite line: “an idea so idiotic that only an intellectual could think of it.” :-)
Sadly this video isn't very humble itself. Maybe ask someone who is left leaning about what being woke is about instead of just taking this video's word for it, preferably someone who is actually knowledgeable on the subject. This video is heavily biased and the whole point of it is to setup the strawman at the end.
@@VodShod it appears you know some stuff about woke, could you explain to me like I'm five? (actually a subreddit name, It's not an insult it just means you need to do... um... in-depth explanation I guess)
@@chaomatic5328 For people on the left woke is just a term referring to actually paying attention to injustices done to others which you were previously oblivious to. Currently republicans use woke to refer to any situation where a minority is in a position of success, they claim that any minority has to have only succeeded due to "diversity hire", and that any minority that has a job which requires high level of skill must be only there due to "woke ideology". Maybe you can figure out why yourself, it is rather obvious in many cases, in other cases people just are parroting what they heard from other republicans. this is a situation where a group of people with a lot of money and a social network arm create a narrative using a strawman to attempt to muddy the waters and demonize their opponents. An clear example of something like this is: like factory owners from the 1870s spreading propaganda that the push to have emergency escape doors was just an effort to support greedy workers in their organized attempt to steal from the righteous business owners. This video is along the same lines, although it does have the Prager U style of obfuscation which gives half truths and makes leaps of logic to push a certain argument, all while giving a veil that it is discussing something that isn't controversial, they also use round about methods of describing what they are talking about. For instance instead of saying outright that you shouldn't trust experts in their fields you start with how intelligent people have been found to have bias then conflate bias with delusion. Claim that intelligent people are as susceptible to it as ignorant people, then slowly twist that into making it look like intelligent people are much more delusional than any other group, then demonize education and make claims that education is all about supporting delusions, then as a guise of "examples" make strawman arguments towards groups you want to demonize while claiming both sides have issues and never giving any example from a side the maker supports. Then use self help statements about curiosity and being humble and a disclaimer of trying to avoid bias to complete the veil of innocence.
Smart is understanding and/or picking up a given set of rules taken at face value quickly and intuitively. Wise is slowly but surely extracting a sense of perspective and an internal auditing service from every formative experience you've ever had, and learning to apply the axioms thereof universally. They have very little to do with each other on balance.
On top of that, leading with facts and not predefined biases. Someone can always question something sound and find something wrong with it because nothing in the world is absolute, or someone can always go in with an agenda (this happens not just in politics but also in science). But if someone can let the conclusion be data-driven, then the conclusion from the challenge will be more sound as well.
What is real? How do you define 'real'? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain. Couldn't resist quoting Morpheus 😁
Curiosity and humility are the best tools against dogma and self delusion. Winning arguments does not matter. Let go. Seek truth, grow. Too much education, too much knowledge, not enough character. Bang on! This video is a great service to every watcher. Thanks.
"To be intelligent is to have a big engine in the car, to be rational is to have a good brake. If you never brake, you'll hit the wall. And if you have a big car, you'll hit the wall hard. You can be extremely intelligent and extremely biased. So above all, be wary of intelligent people more than others, because when they screw up, they screw up harder [...] So be wary of yourself." This is from a French biologist I have seen on UA-cam some times ago. This video reminds me of this guy and his quote. I find it quite interesting.
UA-camr is utterly clueless - you cant argue with the fact Sociaists have videos literally named 'Top 10 Misconceptions dull dimwits think about Equity' and this video is literally quorting them. Nice dunning kruger effect, extra funny if they talk about 'Smart And Dumb' and hey, hey, hey: whattt a coincidence, this video goes DIRECTLY to state conservative prpagana laughably easy to dbeunk like "WOKE PROFESSORS RULE THE UNIVERSITIESS AND ARE SPREADINGG BAAAD KNOWLEDGE". No, the video has nailed your coffin, firneds and its aptly-named "Science istn Dogma, your just Stupid". Got the spine to finish it? Haha, why am i even asking, of course not. Theres cliamte-change-deniers in the commentsection, attracted by the Narrative here; i rest my case cause that's sooooo obvioussss. This UA-camr i unsubtle bet will say 'Everything wrong ever'. Leftism debunks all this. Science isnt Dogma, your jut Sutpid, fans of this conservative channel. Man, no wonder your Side is going under
As an amateur racer, I'd change it: intelligence is the powertrain, experience is your brake, rationality are your tires and the ground surface is reality. Life is a track, and the single most important upgrade your car needs for a track is appropriate tires. Better brakes fatigue less, higher power accelerates faster, but you are hindered to do anything useful with both without a good grip. We could extend the analogy further with emotional stability (suspension) and personality (aero and chassis dynamics), but it would get too nerdy.
Excellent video! Especially on the point about being excellent at winning a debate rather than seeking truth! The thing is that bias isn’t necessarily a bad thing. If one has a biased belief they might want to try to prove that belief using empirical evidence. What is important however, is to test your biased beliefs, arguments and evidence AGAINST those who do not hold those beliefs in peer-reviewed studies. The problem today is that the bias has a consensus status where not holding onto it will lead to being ‘canceled’. Thus, fear has a great hold over the scholarship. If scholars were allowed to take a dissident voice without fear of their careers, then bias might not be a bad thing. It’s when tolerance doesn’t apply to different ideas that we see the dangers of biased beliefs
Yes. As a kid I was that gifted kid, but so obnoxiously arrogant it makes me cringe. But I was just on the spectrum and my niche obsession was electrical engineering, somehow. Which meant I had to learn advanced concepts at 10 to learn my autistic niche. So I appeared gifted?. Anyway, Because this compound is still hated, or misunderstood by so many. I took LSD when I was 19, it was one of the most important things Ive ever done. It gave me the abilities to be intently self introspective, almost to a fault? I dont think I ever admitted being wrong before this. Im 30 now and still try to work towards my intrinsic being. I not only have no issue admitting being wrong, but I seek it out as an error correcting technique. ITs in the same wavelength as failure. Which ever since I was a child. I knew that failure was nothing more than a tool to learn. It affords you the opportunity to learn, so Ive always embraced it as that. I learned this from electrical engineering as a kid, because you learn more from a failed circuit, than one that works the first time.
Educated only means that you have learned many things that may or may not be true. Wise means you have figured out which ones were true and which ones were not.
@@maythewindblow3734 You just saying that proves nothing but i suppose you dont even know what proof is. Honey, friendly reminder that Conservatism is at War with Science and all sidesk now and admit so except maybe you and this channel here
@@maythewindblow3734 You literally just lied about me. What was that meant to show anyone? That your a dunce who cant defend themselves against ANYTHING? What, i dont watch ANY Science-UA-camrs? LOLLLLL, i literally do, hahahha. Iagine just hailmerying the s-it outta the idea of a reply to me. just randomly shooting in the dark and hoping for the best
Thomas Sowell's book "Intellectuals and Society", explains it perfectly. Smart people think they are better than the rest of us, they think they're anointed, so to speak.
On the contrary. Intelligent people wouldn't necessarily do that. People (stupid and intelligent) with big egos do that. Sowell is quite good at times, but often wrong. He also has a big ego.
More than likely, you have confused your beliefs with what narcissists believe, which is that they are better than everyone else, et cetera, et cetera. Interestingly enough, narcissistic people come in the full intelligence spectrum.
1:38 there is a leap in logic here that mutually contradictory biases cannot be the result of greater understanding. For example, any intellectual disagreement about abortion stems from one side believing that a fetus is a living person and that abortion is akin to killing that person which is almost if not always murderous, versus the other side believing that a fetus has not developed enough to possess any degree of person hood and is there for simply a portion of the mother’s body. Most often this divide is created because one side believes in the concept of a soul and the other does not. Both sides can be perfectly logical and have complete understanding about the topic of abortion, however, no matter how much each side understands about the human birthing process and abortion there will still be some kind of divide as long as one side holds the world view that person hood is decided by a God given soul and the other believes person hood is a socially beneficial intellectual construct. Both beliefs are dependent on a world view that is separate from the topic they hold biases on.
Claiming a distinct human life at any point of development is merely a part of the woman's body is completely ignorant, though. From conception it is a unique human life with unique dna. And personhood is of no help here, because it is just a restatement of the question, "should we care about unborn humans? If so, when?"
A fetus is a growing organism with its own distint DNA. If such a thing was found on Mars, what would it be called? It is also hilarious that this isn't the only argument where conservatives base their stance in science and liberals in belief. Another area where they do this is on the topic of transgender individuals. Conservatives believe that biology determines what you are, where as liberals believe that the individual is more than just biology.
This is a false dichotomy, there are *several* secular utilitarian arguments against abortion on every level of the gradient of allowance - be it concerns on time-preference and societal degeneration therefrom, concerns related to psychological damage to the mother in lieu of the degenerate apathy and lack of self-accountability that comes from the total-right approach mixed with a hedonistic world-view, whether it is of a localities, states, or federal jurisdiction, as well as secular deontological arguments for both sides within the Libertarian sphere; notably evictionism vs departurism vs private associative jurisdiction - concerned only with Natural Law as derived by Rothbard in his athesitic Aristotelian/Quasi-Objectivist tradition, and rebuttals from those who note his slight contradiction in ethics regarding intent and potentiality and seeming disregard or omission of how such considerations interact with a totally privatized societal order. In your attempt here you have only seemingly confirmed the very statement you attacked.
I will also note, though it may be pedantic given the limited and unofficial enviroment, you have also taken for granted as a presupposition a specific definition of personhood without noting even the possibility of any objections to it, and used this to bolster your favored side of the philisophical dichotomy you created - and on a more substantial note I will add such definition of personhood as a "socially beneficial *construction"* is epistemologically *absurd* and self-defeating - collectives do *not* exist, individual existence is an axiomatic prerequisite to any attempt at ethics as applied to individuals - any ethic that starts with a collectivistic notion, then tries to apply it to individual action as formulated and informed by action which is always individual - though individuals themselves can act in concert - is no logical ethic at all, but rather the whimsical apologia of a budding authoritarian who "definitely knows what is right this time". Social constructivism is nothing but the societally murderous death-throws of Neo-Marxism and Post-modernism desperately racing to see who can upend civilization first.
This is so good. I was a builder and would tell the apprenticed to be teachable (humble) and curious. Don’t be afraid to ask questions, the only stupid question is the one you didn’t ask.
I worry that my apprentice is a bit too full of himself sometimes. He's OK for the moment because he's really obviously incompetent at pretty much everything, so he has to listen... You can see that he thinks pretty highly of himself though and I worry he'll become a PIA once he starts to learn a bit and starts to think he knows everything. IDK what you do about it though.
@@stevem815 You can't teach someone who already knows everything. If he thinks he knows something, he won't learn anything new about it. Thing is, it's way too late to teach him a good attitude; his parents were responsible for that. Now you can only hope he decides to learn that on his own. I'd sooner keep around a "dimwit" with a good (teachable) attitude any day of the week. You should too and you already know why. Hope it works out with him.
One of the important parts of our own education that we have lost is doubt. Doubt is a vital tool we use to find flaws in our thoughts and reinforce truths we know, but our culture hates the idea of doubts. Doubts are to be ignored and avoided so as to not disrupt the beliefs we are to cling to. Doubts are uncomfortable and our culture wants comfort over everything. To our culture, doubting is seen as a negative, that you have underlying biased "-isms" preventing you from blindly accepting the narrative message.
Yes, doubt, shame, modesty, all limit of arrogance which leads to self-rationalization. One thing, however, is, are you looking for the truth or looking to be right? For my own purposes, I don't look for the truth or to be right. I look for what works, and what doesn't work. I have adopted many positions and over time seen that they just don't work. So right wingers think I'm leftist and left wingers think I'm rightist. One thing that makes EVERYONE happy is: the right denies science on climate, and the left, on gender. Took me years to get there.
Doubt must assume that the person has to doubt themselves, admitting that what they know is insufficient. You mean people should entertain their doubts instead of believing their beliefs? Preposterous! How dare you suggest such blasphemy. My beliefs can’t possibly be wrong.
I think the real problem is social media. Before SM you had to go out and learn what you were interested in. And when you spoke you had an understanding a little deeper than others and we learned from each other. Now days everyone can pretend they know more about a subject than they actually do. But they get upset hoping their frustration will suffice as intelligence. It’s insane. There’s so much more to explain.
On the other hand, internet is the extremely powerful way to gain and spread knowledge. Yes, it could be used both for spreading truth and lies (and I personally had seen a lot of examples when lies too were spreading everywhere until one smart person found out that it's actually not true), but in essence it does make truth spread significantly faster than it was before the internet. It also gives people more opportunities to proof themselves wrong, since a lot of scientific knowledge is open in the internet
@@akeem2983 It's not just the speed: in the internet age, reputation means nothing. Having been wrong a dozen times- a hundred times- before is not impediment to pumping out BS and finding a willing audience. Until the 1990s, politicians had to resign, media figures were sacked, liars were sent to oblivion and remembered by the public for being liars (thus discouraging others). Politicians, news channels, celebrities promoting everything from science to cooking, put great stock in being seen to be honest. The internet has freed us from consequences, from the guiding morality of (the better part of) society.
@@lllordllloyd Thats even the case in real debates today. As soon as they can't defend their arguments, they get into emotional rants and attacks. There is no disciplin and emotional distance in today debate culture.
@@prometheus9096 Very true. A twin of this is personalising a debate about history or philosophy. "I didn't kill those natives, why are you making me feel guilty?"; "Children do better with a parent at home? How dare you undermine our right/need to both work long hours!". Folks, it isn't about you (but feel free to reflect later on a personal level).
It boils down to Wisdom. Data = Knowledge in all its forms Memory = A store of Data Intelligence = The innate ability to acquire, recall, analyse and produce Data Wisdom = Application of intelligence with good judgement, morals, ethics etc.
And wisdom can't be learned in books. It is learned by living. Oh, philosophy will teach you a great deal, but it won't answer all your questions, for that, you need experience.
How incredibly intelligent, you managed to define your premises such that they validated your initial proposition despite demonstrating no rationale or evidence for their definitions and casual chains!
The next step toward being humble: stop drawing those you disagree with as caricature fools with boxes on their heads and yourself as a sage floating in the sky.
Humble? So if a man tells you he is a woman you say nothing and accept him as a woman? If a man tells you that you must accept his god as being your “savior” or get burned in his hell you say nothing? Be a pushover if you want, I will never allow be silent and accept such DumbFCKRY to be pushed on me.
I don't draw myself. I'm not this nice to look at... But i do this annoying Thing, called THINKING. Well, I know it has fallen out of Favor lately - but I'm old School.
What? This comment is absurd. He is not showing himself and the people he disagrees with, he's showing people without bias and people with bias, no matter what they ultimately believe.
“One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision.” ― Bertrand Russell
I often find that I want to respond to a comment or statement because I disagree. As I start to write a response, I begin to reason if what I write might be a fallacy or based on false information. Often before I am done with my response, I'll chose not to post. Not because I'm intelligent, but because I don't really know.
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Just because someone is an intellectual it doesn't mean they are not stupid. Some of the most imaginative and understanding people I've known have been of so called "average intelligence".
@@jasonc5413that seems self-contradictory: in order to be an intellectual, you must be intelligent, it's a pre-requisite. and if you have creativity/imagination and understanding then by definition you are intelligent
My grandfather dropped out of high school, joined the Navy, got a job working in a nuclear reactor after the Navy, did that for 10 years then became the head of maintenance for a massive corporation and retired nicely. The smartest man I have ever known and he didn't even have a diploma or GED. Dude could fix anything. Fro. Reactor parts to small engines to framing a house to tile work. Just built different.
Some of the smartest people I have ever seen are like your Grandfather. They never got a higher education, but their ability to look at problems, break them down, and fix the issue was amazing. They then learned from the fixing of these problems and that has made them better men. I have this innate thing where I love to learn and do things , even if just one time. Having grown up poor also makes you extremely resourceful, which is something that rich people that go to these elite universities will never learn.
you are blessed to have such a great man for a grandfather. Its too bad he did not run for government. If we had people like him in government, things would not be such a mess.
There is a lot of wisdom in this talk. One of the lines that jumped out to me was, "Most goals of thinking are not to reach objective truth, but to justify what we wish to believe." And the solution...."the strongest countermeasure against bias is curiosity."
I have a mini whiteboard of quotes I like, I just took this one from the video: “Why do I really believe what I believe? What other reasons besides reason could I have?”
There is, but there is also a lot of hypocrisy here... Ironically enough it's doing exactly what it describes, connecting things that have nothing to do with each other with half truths to create a narrative... For example, I've never ever seen an academic claim that obesity is healthy neither exists a paper describing such a thing
@@MrChickennugget360 Depends on what you mean by fat acceptance. The only claim that came from educated background was, that a huge chunk of obese people get much worse and more obese if you call them fat and if you insult them, since stress and anxiety from the claim perpetuaes their bad behaviour connected to food, making it much less likely for them to lose weight. *There was never an academic claim that being fat is healthy.* That was just version of few fat americans.
As my dad would often say when things went tits up, "you gotta be pretty smart to do something that stupid." Or another of his favorites, "you know just enough to get all the way into trouble but only halfway out."
Intelligence Quotient needs to be separated into 3 categories. 1. Potential Intelligence Quotient (tested) 2. Applied Intelligence Quotient 3. Disabled Pattern Recognition (as applied to specific topics) In other words, pattern recognition is the most prominent factor in a high IQ. Various buzzwords and their psychology are designed to disable pattern recognition about certain topics: Ray SIs. T. Home O. Fobe ANT I SEAM IT ICK! *(most notably) With your pattern recognition *(the highest IQ trait) disabled about these topics, your Applied Intelligence Quotient goes down. You will be unable to consider Krym stats of one people, bad touch rates of the next concerning children, and Mah Phia movements of the last, who are the brains of this Horde.
Well, his whole point in this video is that an intelligent person is better at rationalizing into an idea, authority figure or no. When talking about 2020, it's a great example of how many people have made their minds up one way or another, and the smartest among them likely spent more time rationalizing whichever viewpoint they support, feeding into your own beliefs further.
As a "leftie" that can't stand wokeism I have given up on trying to discuss issues with so many people. Now I'm just interested in understanding how people think and come to the positions they hold. I see so many people say that free speech is under threat and then in the next breath argue someone should be arrested for saying something they disagree with, it's fascinating. Great video, thanks.
People are to caught up in being right that they are not thinking about what is right and what might be harmful. They are not thinking. They confuse emotion for thinking and begin to believe that if they can suppress or limit speech for someone they disagree with, somehow that increases their own power in that right but the truth of it is the moment you become successful in limiting any right for those with whom you disagree with you.. You inadvertently limit and handcuff yourself in that right at the same time in the very same way. So, those in power who are intent on deceiving and manipulation work to cause division and infighting amongst ourselves knowing full well that our unity despite our differences is the very thing that they must dismantle first. When it comes to our rights.. To assume I can take yours because we might disagree in some ways would just take away from me in the very same way. It is not a weapon that serves anyone of us well unless and only when we all have it together equally. When we become proud and divide and seek to use that weapon on one of our own just because they don’t believe and see things exactly like you and I and work to use that weapon to strike at that person or group we strike ourselves to and receive the same wounds and bleed out as well. It’s idiocy
mid-right here, same on both ends of the spectrum. I have friends on the far left and family on the far right, and I just like to observe how their brains work.
There's nothing wrong with being on the left of the political spectrum. I apparently according to a test i did am more soc-democratically inclined but i don't consider myself an ideologue and definitely dont subscribe to the radical social democratic dogmas and believe they borderline on anarchy
Intelligence it's only measured with IQ. Wich it's problem solving focused. Howrever there are types of intelligence. Social. Phyloaophical and emotional intelligence. This if underdeveloped can create this paradoxx where a high IQ person it's dumb enough to think hks opinion it's better because he knows he has a high IQ
I guess it depends on the definition of humble, but if humble is the opposite of arrogant (downplaying your capability) it is equally wrong as arrogance, and the right way is simply sticking to reality and the truth to the best of your abilities.
My granfather was a veteran of WW2,and a Mayor in the UK. when imparting his wisdom,he said always question the middle word in life and always remember there are no pockets in shrouds, words that stuck. A heartfelt thank you to After Skool for your time and effort for your content. Its very much appreciated.
@@garlic9763 ah OK it's connected to "Life" and pretending that there is another word in the middle of the word life. Strange train of thought to me, I wouldn't have gotten that without explanation, thanks.
Honest question - I know we’ve been lied to about pretty much everything, but at what point does it become dangerous to just accept any conspiracy just because it’s a conspiracy?
I try to stop myself if I hear an argument that I can't counter and say "That's a good point, I don't know, I'll look into that." Of course it doesn't always work and I sometimes continue with the argument without enough information but it has helped tremendously with the biases.
As a tech CEO I’ve hired hundreds of people directly. 99% of the college graduates thought so highly of themselves and were so set in their own ways, they never took the time to learn how to do things OUR way. It didn’t take long before I started favoring those WITHOUT college degrees.
I was hired at my tech company for my experience vs my degree. They didn't care I had a degree and never asked me about it. They wanted to know about my experience in the field and how that could bring value to the company. So far, it's one of the best companies I have worked for. I'm seen as an expert in my area and also expected to keep up with the new information emerging in my field. My opinion is valuable, but I also know other people have great ideas and opinions too. Sometimes, another person's idea or opinion is what we go with because it is more sound. That level of thinking doesn't come from degrees, it comes from experience. (Many of us have lots of experience while less than half have degrees)
I've often heard it's better to hire someone w little to no experience so you can train them to do it a specific way. Overcoming old habits is a challenge, especially if they're so set on being right.
I remember in the 90s the accusation was always that without religion people would be rational and open-minded. Here we are a few years later as more people have become atheist and those same people have invented the most absurd beliefs and enforce them with fervor upon others. We really are our own worst enemies
I'd argue that wokeism is the new religion of the 21st century, they certainly act like religious fanatics did, like the bigots who burned Beatles albums because John Lennon said The Beatles were more popular than Jesus...the wokes do the same kinda thing, they "cancel" people for doing and saying things they don't like, they look for things to get offended by (think Satanic panic but in reverse)
Religion is not the reason. My country has majority atheist/non-believers, and the current woke AND conservative discourse (USA) is seen as pure nonsense here. On the other hand, most people in my country had enough of societal experiments for a lifetime... Not so in the west. Maybe it's time for forty years of a total shitshow on your part so you can get it out of your system.
You say atheists have invented the most absurd beliefs and enforce them with fervour upon others. Funny, because from my perspective as an atheist, it’s religious people that do this. This cognitive bias is a minefield.
This is how Jordan Peterson evolved from being a brilliant analyst using knowledge and logic to an aggressive moron using sophisms and eristic dialectics (and sometimes even worse, simply talking more and louder than his opponents, thus, yelling them down).
@@bestill365 I've seen it in several UA-cam videos. And quite frequently I have seen him cutting other peoples arguments by simply interrupting them and talking louder. That is not how convincing or debunking works.
“Without the right personal qualities more education will not make you a master of your own personal biases, it will only make you a better servant of them.” That’s a quote. Harvard needs to put THAT over the door.
Correct. It's a Spiritual matter. Everyone has a belief of something which determines their understanding of their action, but what belief is true? Examine the beginning of life and death. Truth is known in their understanding.
Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
@@BrettJones-k5u Ah, yes, Climate-Change-Denial and countless massive amounts of science-denial: ALl RIGHT-WIng-Staples but you nod your gullable head to a video that couldnt help but sprinkle-in THEIR OWN DELUSIONS, debunked into oblivion by Professor Dave's video "Science isnt Dogma, your just Stupid" into the video
@@Not_Mussolini_Is it wrong for an artist to paint birds and flowers? Grasshoppers and honeybees? If so, how is it okay for Muslims to make humanoid robots in the image of man? Or Christian societies to do the same?
I find it amazing that some people see sex, which is pretty much binary, as a spectrum - and then some people (such as Robin DiAngelo in her book) see race, which is a spectrum, as binary (white / non-white).
No one sees sex as a spectrum. Gender on the other hand, is seen as a spectrum. Sex has more to do with biological attributes that are associated with physical features. Gender is a social construct that has more to do with neurological characteristics and behaviors than physical attributes.
@@HeraBek I don't think anyone has a motive to fabricate the condition of being transgender. Least of all that Republican politician who was forced to confront it because it was becoming apparent to him that he had a trans daughter.
@@jadedstargazer "No one sees sex as a spectrum" This is patently false. If you disagree wit the position just say that instead of trying to disappear it.
A place like Harvard is filled with very smart, ambitious and politically careerist folks, so admitting that they might be wrong in a place which is defined by "intelligence" is a heavy pill to swallow. On top of that it is even harder for people to admit their mistakes because they collectively are very good at rationalizing their errors in thought...so a bunch of really smart academics at Harvard cannot possibly be wrong, right?
Not realizing the difference between believing, thinking, and knowing is a huge problem. There are only two mistakes that one can make on the path to truth: Not starting and not going all the way.
What has helped me is being on either side of the political spectrum at some point in my life and realizing it's all the same control machine. No politician is your friend, even your favorite one
I remember in grad school that my advisor would admonish me whenever I used the word “believe” when describing data or information. He argued that “belief” requires no evidence so avoid the phrase “I believe …”. This practice made me, through my life, to be more critical in evaluating information and adopt an epistemic philosophy.
an econ professor conditioned us not to use the word "should" when discussing topics. That alone changed my mindset more than anything else in his class.
@@omarclunis2466 Because 'the mind' /intellect uses 'beliefs' like foundation stones to be built on and to be fought over. Most minds HATE being wrong. He was training them to think openly and widely, before blindly believing without the full facts, just because they fit a current convenient desired outcome. Were you born with the knowledge that the sun rose every day? Many humans in times before, believed you had to worship the sun 'so it rose every day'...
Eh. You have to believe in data. There is all sorts of potential faults, if you put a lot of effort into it… “ belief” is required to deem it representative of larger populations.
This video is remarkable for many reasons. One of the biggest ones are that it is guilty of propagating the same biases, beliefs, and fallacies that it also (rightfully so) warns against. Most people in the comments are unaware of it, but a few have pointed them out, and my guess is that the "herd mentality" will make most people side with the ones that accept all statements in the video as gospel. Ironic, isn't it?
Very ironic indeed, and you can tell alot of these people instead of trying to look at their own bias, are using this video as proof as to why the political parties they oppose are biased, the point flew over so many peoples head
It was one of the more interesting videos I have seen from this channel (2, so not a bunch of competition). I dont fully understand why the herd mentality leads people to uniformly agree or disagree with a topic with various different points. I thought there were some…questionable points for sure (cat v. monkey for one 😬) but that doesn’t mean that you should disregard the whole video. His comments on curiosity made sense and are, what I think, genuinely beneficial to some. I dont agree with there being an objective truth to everything but his point about seeking that instead of winning arguments is certainly useful in objective subjects (what is objective could be subjective but idk).
It takes a strong person to admit they are wrong. It's easy to blame others or to claim ignorance, but it's much harder to realize you have been improperly educated and to accept your own short comings. Great video, and very well put. Thanks for putting this information out for people to see.
The dude hanging precariously into the chasm, desperately clutching the 'ego', is An EXCELLENT Example, of what blocks one's Path, to Objectivity. Very nicely demonstrated!
I just think it's hard. There's unconstructive undertones in this video, that just wisp in the nuance layers. People are dumb because they appeal more to lying authority than they do people who tell the truth. They're also told not to trust the best sources and basically reinvent the wheel with that shoddy knowledge.
I can’t remember where I heard this, but I loved it so much I remembered the quote itself: Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to use it in a fruit salad. I feel that the more knowledgeable ppl these days become, the less wise they are. Maybe it’s bc we literally have the world in the palms of our hands, that there’s SO much information that we can no longer pick and choose what’s most important. Sort of like how digital media “prints” everything. It used to be that paper and ink were expensive, therefore the editors and publishers of, say, medical and scientific journals were far more discriminatory in what they printed. Now, it costs nothing to print “everything”, ideas and concepts no longer have to meet certain standards before being permitted to take up precious space. This is a problem, and for obvious reasons.
I know that I use that analogy to help try to explain the difference between wisdom and intelligence for people learning D&D and Pathfinder (as well as other TTRPGs with those attributes). No idea where it originates from though, haha.
Your argument doesn't hold water.The tomato thing being a fruit thing was not decides by botanists but was a tax thing.Vegatables weren't taxed but fruit was so some idiot put it in a category to make money!So you can't claim it's a scientific explanation!
The gist of contemporary science (critical rationalism) offers a very helpful foundation against biases: Science is about trying to prove that you're wrong - not that you're right. Strictly speaking, there should be no such thing as defending an idea. We should all mercilessly attack ideas. When it seems we may be defending them, we should be merely clarifying them.
Man, this video verbalises the thing that has probably bothered me the most about society for years. There's nothing that makes me more depressed than an obviously irrational belief becoming "truth" for many people (myself not excluded) because it can be useful to be wrong at times. If I could change one thing about human nature, it would be the tendency for this to happen. This would've almost immediately transformed our society into something much better.
Or not. Humans display these behaviours for a good reason. They helped early Humans and their ancestors to survive and adapt. If Kahan's theory is correct and these behaviours do indeed exist (and that is not a given, there is no scientific consensus over this), then they would have evolved and been selected for because they contributed to the success of early hominids and humans. So without these behaviours, our society might not have existed at all. I'd be very careful about wanting to change anything about human nature, since human nature usually has very good reasons for being the way it is.
@@jodofe4879 - a lot of what I will be saying now will be just my interpretation of reality and it may be not backed up by scientific research but this is how I believe things are. So, yes, humans display their behaviours for a reason but that reason is what helped them to survive and reproduce thousands of years ago, not what helps build us a better society today. For example, hurting other people may actually help you to reproduce because you get rid of competition. Such behaviours will be evolutionary promoted to some extent, even though they make our lives a worse experience. But I digress. I believe that our way of living as human beings has transformed so much over the past 10 000 years that we are almost like walking evolutionary anachronisms. A lot of our behaviours that were useful when we were living in small hunter-gatherer tribes makes us a pain in the butt in a globalised, industrialised society. Our brains have failed to catch up with the extraordinary rate at which we’ve been changing as a society. One example I’ve been able to observe in everyday life is that how humans will often argue like their life depends on it instead of admitting mistakes. They’ll sometimes defend such absurd positions, outright deny things you’ve seen them doing etc. Why do I think it is so? Because back in the day, arguments were often indeed life and death situations. While nowadays, your chance of dying because of murder is below 0.1% in most developed countries (yearly homicide rates below 0.002%), it was well over 10% in some acient hunter-gatherer societies (and it was during times when it was much easier to die of something else, otherwise the disproportion would’ve been even higher). Being assigned blame for something could’ve literally get you killed back in the day, so it was a survival instinct to outright deny any wrongdoing, but what it does nowadays is make people act silly, being unpleasant to others, refuse to admit mistakes, learn from them and move on. The problems we’re dealing with nowadays are much more complex than those of ancient, primitive tribes. Truth is more important to bettering our lives that it was thousands of years ago and out brains haven’t caught up with that. Of course there may be unforseen consequences if we change something that was built a certain way by nature but I would still take a chance given how depressed I am to live in the current society. I frickin’ hate it so much that I would prefer to have never been born.
oft times i am glad i was proven wrong, we must always be open to the correct way and the way that will help others as a whole, not for control but for enlightenment.
6:02 I was listening at 2x speed and "master" and "debaters" got slurred together in my hearing into one VERY different word. I was quite flabbergasted for a bit. 😊
Humility always feels difficult to achieve because it seems like it has been compressed under heavy layers of sediment of narcissism, selfishness, and personal biases accumulated through our lives.
Humble people tend to be exploited and mistreated. Sadly our society rewards and even accommodates arrogance. Seeing humble people getting trampled on makes people not want to be humble.
Humility is there, when the efforts to 'ACHIEVE' humility, come to an end. Trying to achieve humility is an act of self concern. Narcissism, selfishness and personal bias, are all, pretty much, the same thing. The Selfish cannot know humility. If the selfish find it difficult to 'achieve' humility, it is because they have no idea what it is.
@@quinnfletcher3906 It's a defense mechanism of the ego, hence the ending part of the video. You can't feel hurt when losing an argument when you let go of your self-image. Those self defense mechanisms are also what keeps people from standing up for themselves, as some people may think wrong of them if they do.
I've built a significant potion of my adult identity on the label of "integrity". I espouse it as unique and the most important part of who I am. A little over a year ago, I made a mistake at work, and I had an opportunity to lie about it when confronted by that mistake. As I was known as honest and trustworthy, I could have gotten away with it. However, in that moment the words slipped out of me as easy as water, and I admitted to my fault. It is a very strange feeling to knowingly admitting to your mistakes and faults when there is real loss on the line. I'd lost the confidence of a person I considered a friend through my carelessness. All that to say that I understand the need for people to lie. They lie to other people, and then they lie to themselves to mask the guilt of the initial lie to avoid pain and fear. The West is full of liars, and they are so wrapped up in the lies they tell the world that they believe them and live a in a world built on very shaky ground. They get violent when someone shakes those foundations because of the fear of it all crumbling around them.
It's actually horrifying how much of human interaction and society is based on lying. It then becomes entierly comical how many people want "honesty" in their relationships, while at the same time honesty is pretty much unviersally punished and carries negative consequences for the truth teller. Most basic example is if you simply don't feel like attending and how if you DON'T make up a white lie for why you won't be attending a social gathering will be seen as disrespectful and instead of rewarding you for clearly communicating you are punished by being excluded the next time around due to others being unable to handle rejection and taking it personally.
It's a cultural thing. Us germans are, in comparison, not only to americans but to many neighbouring european countries, brutally honest, as you would probably experience it. Our "how do you do" is a little more honest, therefor not used that often, and you can tell a little about your normal daily struggles without breaking the social codes already.
Being able to confront your social group with inconveniences is key to productivity. You need those personalities in any given society. People like you (and me, btw) are important additions to any social group.
I'm so glad you say all these things straight up, and in a straight face, A lot of people are worried about being cancelled and it only makes the issue you described worse.
@@jimx45 From Middle English feer, fere, fer, from Old English fǣr, ġefǣr (“calamity, sudden danger, peril, sudden attack, terrible sight”), from Proto-Germanic *fērō, *fērą (“danger”), from Proto-Indo-European *per- (“to attempt, try, research, risk”). Your point exactly? Or are you here to be a perfect example?
Indeed. I think it's gotten to the point where the negative consequences have started impacting a critical mass of people. So concerns can't just be waved aside anymore.
@@wabalubadubdubdub The pendulum has been swinging since the beginning. If left alone, it will eventually stop but it is constantly being pushed about.
It is certainly one sided. It isn't attacking the mental gymnastics found in intelligent religious figures or right wing politicians. I don't think it is actually a straw man argument, although I'd like to hear your thoughts on it
I assume you didn’t finish the video. I felt a similar way when he mentioned wokeness. However, the end of the video he talks about how intelligent people on either side of the political bias will be mad about any cognitive idea and mentions his own bias and shortcomings. This video seems far more informative and uses wokeness as a relevant example anybody could look at than an attack as a specific group and it seems being offended or pointing out bias shows the true message going over your head
I was looking for a way to some up my thoughts about this video, and your comment @julianossa3578 is exactly what was I was looking for. My and my wife just watched this and it is compostela riddle with personal bias to the point that it's ironically comical
You reminded me of what Theodore Roosevelt said about thieves. He said, "A man who has never gone to school may steal from a freight car; but if he has a university education, he may steal the whole railroad".
Must have been talking about, Andrew Carnegie.
I'm sure Roosevelt knows all too well about this subject. He graduated with honorable mentions!!
Wow, thanks for sharing that.
Can’t do that without a education.
@@wrestlingPCwell said,you lefty brainiac ,but you forget how many benefited from his " thievery"
“Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away.”
― Philip K. Dick
Hate is the answer.
@@theq6797 I hate you for saying nothing and typing shit anyway. I hope it helps. Can you go away when I stop thinking about you?
@@stylis666 Who cares what you feel or think?
I don't like that statement. So I'm gonna saying he's smart but biased.
@@stylis666lmao I’ve never seen a better reply outside of fictional character’s dialogue
That shit was hilarious to read bruh
“Unintelligent people are more easily mislead by other people, while intelligent people are more easily mislead by themselves.” The fact that I didn’t realize this earlier is eye opening. Wow
I don't think there is much truth to this because it doesn't really fit the evidence, so it makes sense that you would not have realized it. People are social and tend to form groups. These groups use identity markers including speech patterns, specific beliefs, and actions to try to weed out people who aren't truly part of their group. This used to be a matter of survival, but now it just means people pick a social group, then change their beliefs based on their group. This is true for everyone. People who have practiced critical thinking skill in a wide variety of scenarios and who understand how to read statistics and studies, and are wiling to go to the effort of trying to prove themselves wrong will have some ability to escape this. These will almost always be intelligent people who value knowing the truth.
@@LEgregius It's not regular intellectuals who are prone to this, but rather those who get fame and clout.
For example Jordan Peterson, he used to be scientific and humble, but then it spiraled down straight to science denial with fame and ego boosts.
We don't mislead ourselves. We are actively being brainwashed.
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@@LEgregius it's strange because I personally can't relate to any one social group a hundred percent but have picked up certain thoughts and behaviors from various groups, which makes me paradoxically able to talk to almost anyone
This is why I practice admitting when i'm wrong
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constantly debate myself - try to argue against with the toughest counterpoints
I do this too. I will say, of late I'll debate AI tools like ChatGPT because it can form any argument to a high level. It's really interesting to debate both sides of an argument with it, and see when you find yourself making more leaps in logic or using somewhat irrelevant aspects to argue against it. It won't argue like a person because there is no ideological factor guiding it, but it can make some really solid arguments that make for great food for thought.
@@genevievec.8002that’s interesting. I’ll have to try that, thanks.
We need to stop conflating educated with smart
"Educated" in modern terms basically just means "well-trained" according to the most annoyingly passive-aggressive HR-based curriculum imaginable.
Actually I've noticed that collage graduates are often dumbest as it requires being a yes man
@@Snickers18827100% it makes u docile and take less risks.
"I have never let my schooling interfere with my education." - Mark Twain
Street smarts vs studied intellectuals; I'll take street smarts any day.
George Orwell said "Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual would believe them."
Makes sense why colleges are the hotspots for the ideology I can't name cause my comment will be deleted. College/university is the biggest scam of the past 50 years. Anybody who is college educated will have a very hard time believing they're only smart in the subject they got their education in, while in other subjects they're not any smarter than a truck driver. I'm using truck drivers as an example because they are pretty much the punching bag for intellectuals.
Makes sense why colleges are the hotspots for the ideology I can't name cause my comment will be deleted. College/university is the biggest sham of the past 50 years. Anybody who is college educated will have a very hard time believing they're only smart in the subject they got their education in, while in other subjects they're not any smarter than a truck driver. I'm using truck drivers as an example because they are pretty much the "example" intellectuals keep using when describing lesser people.
@@DesertStateInEUHitler used schools to indoctrinate his future followers.
Orwell was a prophet.
I always think of that quote when someone tries to tell me a woman can have a penis etc.
"Without the right personal qualities, more education won't make you a master of your biases, it will only make you a better servant of them." Wow! That is so well said!
Perfectly describes modern medicine!
@@daughterofTheLionGood stuff one more free hospital bed for someone who is thankful for modern medicine.
Yet sadly so many on here are too blinkered, too obsessed with buzzwords they hear their peers saying, but don't seriously care to enlighten themselves or question any thing they believe in, change is never easy in the beginning but we adapt.
@@sophiepooks2174 "more free hospital bed"
please take them. I'll go on living a healthy natural life not pupped full of chemicals 24/7
So glad to see that you think of yourself as so well-spoken. (You did, however, put it in quotes, so, are we to assume it's not YOUR quote?) If so, who's is it, then?
“You may not win many arguments, but it won’t matter. For even losing arguments will become a victory that moves you towards the far grander prize of truth.” 🔥🔥🔥
"Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing Not to put it in a fruit salad." - Brian O'Driscoll
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
Wisdom is eating your tomato as you ponder the meaningless categorization of various foodstuffs.
@@The13thRonin do you think is this meaningless? It often helps to think which category i have to put in my diet
Maybe I like tomatoes in my fruit salad.
Good PoinT
you are very alone in this matter@@JHavoc-rt2fe
For about 5 years, I fell for everything one party would say… and then I studied both sides and fell for what both believed. The only difference now, I go find why propaganda wants us to believe and who funds it.
They give us our heroes and villans. Funding & fueling each side. Imagine how it will be when we realize that we are all one.
Exactly. It’s a divide and conquer scheme.
🌍 any sides?
@@jjhoughton2812
All sides are an illusion.
Anything to divide us.
Anything & everything.
I grew up Republican In SoCal... flipped when I saw folks losing their life savings and increase of biases. I've been a centrist for better part of 20 years. Voting in the best interest of the community I live in... my military life taught me that most folks want the same things regardless of where they live... the major issue with extreme left or right is the lack of critical thinking and self-interest vs. communal needs. Individualism failed to teach people to work on and love themselves (EQ), and instead, egoism has taken over. People who argue, only want to be right to assert their individuality (ei. Belong to a group) instead of learning to find common ground and truth. People lie to themselves a lot, unfortunately (cognitive dissonance).
“Once you can sincerely say, ‘I don’t know’ then it becomes possible to get at the truth.” (Robert A. Heinlein)
That's the THE DIVINE LAW OF PRECLUSION in action.. but most of you are too closed off/blocked and/or arrogant to have ever EVEN HEARD of this immutable law.
I once had a huge s..t storm in my company, just because I asked a cutomer some really normal questions (at least normal for me). But then I was stormed by my superior, that I was wrong, because I did it so openly and showed everyone that a helpdesk doesn't know the subject... Yeah... It is difficult in the beginning to admit you don't know something. It needs to be trained, especially after being schooled all the time to "look like you are correct". It's hard, and just like After School stated - you have to remind yourself to be curious, no matter how others will think about it.
Sadly for many humans ego, vanity and fear of the unknown gets in the way. Hence faith in the unproven, for the things we don't yet comprehend, or some will never be capable of understanding there is faith based on delusion for comfort.
The question is, can you be satisfied living life without knowing what is true. Believe it or not, the majority of people you know probably are.
@@timhallas4275While you are right.. that's not how it works. I teach the universe. Free-will specifically means you are allowed to feel FALSEHOOD and TRAUMA and other ERROR in your subconscious/half-soul as TRUTH. That is literally what free-will is. - The Earth experience in general is VALID-BUT-FALSE. The experience consists of emotions so has validity.. but they are not true so that experience will be degraded over time.. just as you yourself will kill your own physical body over time by being ignorant and out of alignment with divine forces of LOVE and TRUTH. All things TRUE/LOVING (from divine perspective not mans) do not degrade and such worlds exist multiple spheres above where Earth collective consciousness resides
I have learnt through my own findings to develop an opinion: "there is no shortage of intelligent people who lack common sense". I just never thought i would see this as a subject being spoken about. Thanks for the video and explanation!
i was arguing with someone awhile back. he asked, " If you were wrong, would you want to know? if you're honest, explain to me what it would take to change your mind?". broke me as a young man. Now I ask myself that all the time, when examining my own beliefs. I also use those same two questions anytime someone wants to argue or debate. if they can't answer those questions sincerely, i just shake my head and say, " i understand." That has saved me a lot of time and frustration. 👍
ohhhhh good questions.. I had to put a comma in the second one to understand but my first thought was to pose them to my daughter since our beliefs are very different but then I had to stop and put them to myself.. this is going to take some thought.
You sound like you are ready to become vegan.
@@planetvegan7843 lol no. I actually raise buffalo. hopefully ostrich soon.
@@planetvegan7843 bleh if you mean me, I tried not eating meat after a traumatic death but I'm a carnivore. My niece said I eat steak like an alligator =))
Me too my grandpa used to say if u were completely wrong would u want to know? and I always try really hard to understand the other sides opinions and views I really do. And I'm not afraid to admit there are some things I'm on the fence about. We're all still learning we never stop learning and who knows something could happen in one of our lives that could change our whole outlooks, ya know
Just because someone is smart, it doesn't mean they are wise.
Elaborate
And just because someone is wise, it doesn't mean they are smart.
Nobody was conflating the two, and you have not provided a definition for either, so this statement is as meaningless and stupid as I presume you to be
Smart people believe in stupid things because they don't know this 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🌳
@@colinjohnrudd @kikilicious your comments appear as you're offended by the original post
"Trust those who seek truth. Doubt those who claim they've found it."
I heard this about twenty years ago, don't remember who gets the credit.
Kind of like men who say they've, 'figured women out'!
I think it's, "Believe those who are seeking the truth. Doubt those who find it." ~ Andre Gide. He won the Nobel Prize in literature in 1947.
I liked your quote enough to seek the truth about it. True story. Trust me!
@@samr.england613I've figured them out, and my analysis shows... they're all crazy!!
@@jimmyyounger618uh oh, are you claiming to have found the truth about the source of that quote?! 🤔
@@mcfarvo 😄 I knew I'd heard that quote or something close, but couldn't remember anything else about it. DuckDuckGo claimed to know that Bookbrowse>quotes knew all about it. I'm just a humble messenger of those claims. 👼
EVERYONE needs to hear this! Very well done.
"Winning arguments" versus "discerning truth". Well said.
Great statement yes
I watched a vid the other day with Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens and others. Someone from the audience was challenging them, kind of poorly. He was essentially being ridiculed because "facts are unfair". At the end I figured out Kirk, Owens and the others were interested in "winning debate", while the audience member was interested in learning the (whole) truth.
Jim Jones won arguments with 913 people one day.
He said trying to win an argument against "wokeism"
I don't know the video you mentioned but I'm not a fan of Owens because she comes across as very arrogant. She loves to say how right she is etc. That's not to say she's wrong about anything, I agree with much of what I've heard her say but she doesn't need to be constantly saying how great she is.
"I'm suspicious of all agendas, especially my own."
I have an agenda. If you don't like it, I have others.
I never believe anything comes out from a jewish mouth, dan kahan for example!!
Our modern education system stifles curiosity. When I was in school, in the 1970's, we were taught to question everything, if not by our teachers, by our peers. This was an off-shoot of the 1960's, where "question authority" was a mantra. I find that young people now have little curiosity to question what they are taught. This is a credit, and I mean that negatively, to our educational system, where they have learned to prey on young people's naivety and idealism. As a result, maturity and common sense has been delayed and sometimes completely shut down in millions of people.
Public schooling has been dumbed down.
We need workers, not thinkers.
In college you are taught to memorize and to give back the answers that your teachers want. Except within very strict parameters you are penalized for wondering if something is really true, for questioning revealed truths or for independent thinking.
@@ankhpom9296 There's no longer much need for workers, only servants.
There’s a free PDF online titled “The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America” that is an absolutely fascinating read, yet also horrifying.
@@ankhpom9296 modern public schooling was originally for producing workers for industry - "purpose of school turned more toward economic development " (Industrial Revolution) -- dumbing down isn't a recent thing. The methods and masks used are the only real change.
This is awesome! Curiosity is definitely the driver for me in my epistemology. Just in the last two years my views have changed so much because of that, this video sums it up so well.
Something I noticed several years ago and have tried to actively apply ever since is, if I hear a piece of information and I have strong emotional reaction to it that's the signal to take a step back and look at all the facts and other information before forming an opinion or "taking a side." Also, life is too short to die on every hill.
Yes, exactly. I've noticed this too, it's also a good idea to understand why it emotionally triggers you. That's at least what I do along with what you mentioned.
I think this is a key to peace. Good for you.
This is fabulous advice!!!
@Azathoth43 -- "Also, life is too short to die on every...." Why is this comment cut off???? Pls add the rest of your comment.
Life is too short to die on every hill. Sometimes it's good just to let things go.@@myggggeneration
I try living by the mantra: Stay humble, stay teachable, seek the truth and always keep learning.
I like this 👍 💯
A very good outlook for life.
Yup.. agree.. learn to take the L.. i think is the best thing.. we don’t always have to be right… and we should question everything its how we get better as a whole..
and if you’re right all the time.. mmmm you’re starting to resemble a certain moustache man
Can't believe I'm defending Indiana Jones 4 here but there's a moment where he says "If you want to be an archaeologist, get out of the library."
Amen Brother- Thumb up ... Prof Allright
A lot of people forget that the original conception of a liberal arts education primarily involved the development of one’s character through education. This goes all the way back to figures like Plato. The expectation was not just increased knowledge and proficiency in academic skill sets, but the development of a person as a person. The omission of this educational purpose today is one of the biggest problems with modern western academia.
The humanities have been academia's biggest loss. It's purpose was also to teach students how to think for themselves.
Well said.
@@echopeakbicycling85 And now it teaches them to not think at all.
Being taught how to think critically, and apply multiple sets of ideas to a problem doesn't create "docile competent workers" which is what education has been for the last hundred years.
Let there be Light.
this is a really cool video! One thing I’m very grateful for is my dad teaching me to always keep an open mind ever since I can remember, it is probably one of the biggest things has helped me with reasoning and keeping a cool head in situations as well as better understand and relate to people around me no matter what they think and or believe. Also, I found this a little funny, but the video reminded me of another video out there of people trying to figure out who had the highest IQ and almost all of them got it wrong when they lined up compared to the actual scores, A few who had some lengthy degrees, ended up having the lowest IQ compared to one who didn’t even have any college education
I love admitting I was wrong about something. It's very powerful, because what can you be accused of? Let someone know when you were wrong about something, or if they were right about something. Not being able to do so is weak.
Same. And you end up in a better class of people. I want to see all facets of the diamond.
I don’t think ‘love being wrong’ is the correct approach. Stand by what you believe in and if people are trying to persuade you then you counter with facts rather than rhetoric.
Enjoy talking to people with varying points and trying to find middle ground is probably what the logical people should be focused on. Regrettably it’ll be the logical people that have to do this - if we are successful we can begin to turn the tide.
Being capable of assuming a mistake and even thanking the one for pointing out requires another type of intelligence. Emotional and social intelligence. Because the Ego can get hurt and people on average do not want to feel pain. Including the emotional realization they made a mistake
@@crispytendies1433 I think you just hallucinated the "love being wrong" thing. That was never said or implied.
I don't know, look at politics. Why don't anyone ever admit mistakes no matter how obvious it is that they made one? Probably because history tells us they are punished harder at the ballot when they do than when they don't. So is it weakness to deny mistakes? Is it intelligence? Or it simply a case of cause and effect? I don't know. But i suspect that
If we started rewarding leaders for admitting to and correcting mistakes instead of punishing them, then maybe, just maybe, we would start to see more of them do it.
Smart or dumb, one thing you can always trust them to do is to act in their own self interest, so if you make their interests your interests, everybody should win, in theory.
I had a client who was born in the late 1920's and grew up in depression and ww2 as a child. She grew up in hardship and after the war she went into nursing.
When I asked her why, she replied ; during the war we saw pow's marched through the town. They built roads and bridges and were welcoming to chat with residents. They talked about family back home and how they were only doing what they were told.
She could see ( she left school with no qualifications) that nursing was a benefit to humanity and such we are no different.
She became the first woman in the SW of England to be promoted to a managerial career in the nhs as top dog of nursing .
She was wise, level headed and sharp as a tack even when she died a few years ago.
She put it down to the fact that as a child she was hungry all the time. Christmas was just another day. And once you realise that only you can change the situation you are in, you only have yourself to blame if you stay that way.
She landed up marrying a German pow.
It's strange, she had seen life not from tv but lived it, her stories were like straight to the point, no BS and not filtered. She was brought up to hate Germans, but married one and she was the first person to tell me the propaganda was despicable during WW2 that she could see through it.
For the record, her garden was exceptional and she knew the common and botanical names of every plant in her garden. She died in 2022 and her memory lives on by me talking about her.
My point is, she was wise, called a spade a spade and had critical thinking.
She had no " qualifications " but saw the world differently.
She sounds like a remarkable woman.
@@robertkeyes258 indeed, like someone that would make you think about just how lucky you are to have known someone like them.
the brother on brother wars are despicable and only happen through lies, i love that you put effort in writing the story.
Corny
@@berserker5551 do your homework, stinky
" Who lack the capacity for the mental gymnastics required to justify such intricate delusions".
Suddenly I don't feel so bad.
That's a keeper.
Delusions are fictional. Justify in place of?
@bunk95 I think it means to justify their actions taken that were initiated by their delusion. 🤷♀️ I could be wrong. Since I'm not sure what you meant 😅
@@samlafontaine8552 thats not justify. The thought delusion?
I dispute the term "lack of capacity", there are those of us who have plenty of capacity but refuse to join in the bs games so many play.
That phrase caught my attention too. Perhaps replace “justify” with “rationalize”?
Well done video. I absolutely LOVE that he stressed that if we want to get to objective truth, we don't need more studies and more money, but that we need people who of the right character. Who have the humility to freely admit when they're wrong, and the curiosity to investigate if they are.
As my mom and dad used to tell me, "There's no shame in being wrong, your human. The shame is in refusing to adjust your belief in the face of evidence." Or nowadays the refusal to even look at contrary evidence since algorithms are all to happy to keep us in our silos.
10:27 “Teaching about misinformation will make people dismiss facts as disinformation while teaching them logic will make them use it selectively for what they want to believe.”
The video is so deep and insightful but finished with simple and practical conclusions. Amazing stuff.
UA-camr is utterly clueless - you cant argue with the fact Sociaists have videos literally named 'Top 10 Misconceptions dull dimwits think about Equity' and this video is literally quorting them. Nice dunning kruger effect, extra funny if they talk about 'Smart And Dumb'
@@slevinchannel7589 This response is an example of irony.
@@legokirbymanchannel My reply is literallly refering the 'objective fact' that Conservatives and Right-Wingers have such a blatant War-on-science they literally gotta pretend in a 'rerally transparent, easy-to-deubnk way' that "THE LEFT HATES SCIENCE AN HAS A WAR ON IT",
which even this video lowkey refers
You think your snarkyness or bad-manners make this reality go away? Honey, you cant tell most ofyour Beliefs to aS Scientist without them laughing you outta the room; face what that means already. Your so sad and pathetic you cant even LISTEN to Science-UA-camrs talking about EVEN NON-political stuff, righhhhttt?
...Let alone Leftist-Channels exploring Conservative-Fuck-Ups like the aptly-named "The GOP-led House is really embarassing-itself"
@@legokirbymanchannel Conservatives and Right-Wingers have such a blatant War-on-science they literally gotta pretend in a 'rerally transparent, easy-to-deubnk way' that "THE LEFT HATES SCIENCE AN HAS A WAR ON IT",
which even this video lowkey refers
You think your snarkyness make this reality go away? Honey, you cant tell most ofyour Beliefs to aS Scientist without them laughing you outta the room; face what that means already. Your so sad and pat-etic you cant even LISTEN to Science-UA-camrs talking about EVEN NON-political stuff, righhttt?
...Let alone Leftist-Channels exploring Conservative-F-Ups like the aptly-named "The GOP-led House is really embarassing-itself"
Ah, Climate-Change-Denial and countless massive amounts of science-denial: ALl RIGHT-WIng-Staples but you nod your gullable head to a video that couldnt help but sprinkle-in THEIR OWN DELUSIONS, debunked into oblivion by Professor Dave's video "Science isnt Dogma, your just Stupid" into the video
Determined people appear sexy. Thoughtful people appear insecure. That's why control is handed over to stubborn people in our society.
Is there any way out?
Finding the way out of this might be the cure for most issues holding us down. Problem is, that the majority of al humans seem to be more concerned with whatever clothes some kardashians or other loudmouthed morons wear.
I think that thoughtful people seem insecure because they will think about it instead of just making a stubborn decision first.
No, the most qualified was never found in politics, ever.
@@bestill365you are not immune
Certain industries like media or politics are somewhat inherently image focused though
Carl Sagan's message was spot on. Question everything. Encourage children to question all they are taught. It's not about right and wrong. It's about the process of asking why something is the way it is. Ignore those that ridicule you for asking "stupid" questions. Question every part of your reality, and do the legwork to find your own answers. Everything else is a distraction to keep you complacent.
The signature on my email said Play Fair, Play Nice, and Question Everything.
I didn't know I was quoting Sagan... I'm still not sure, I should check.
Na, it fits my bias. 🙂
I read somewhere a long time ago that the earth was created for the instruction of the soul. Basically it's a school.
A distraction from what to make you compliant with what?
Thats a decent start. Considering public schools and universities are now modern day indoctrination factories of approved narratives and thought.
And even better regarding ecouraging kids to wonder: a parent having to explain everything gets another chance to analyse their own biases and reasons.
I’ve always felt that if I assume I’m wrong, or possibly don’t know all the answers, I’m more likely to see things I would have missed. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
The problem with being humble and curious is that most everyone else is not. You will be an outcast and misunderstood. You must be strong to carry your own convictions. The world does not have to be close minded and selfish, but those in power pump out that nonsense. And the heard, fearing being cast out, will go along with debauchery. "You have to understand, most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it."
Begin humble means keeping for yourself.
Intelligence is overrated, while honesty is underrated.
truth is underrated, really
Orienting yourself toward the pursuit of truth no matter where it leads you is the most intelligent way to live.
Omg the truth of this statement, but if you also add ignorance it is more encompassing of reality despite sounding contradictory
If people were honest about their inteligence, 99% of humanity would be classed as knuckle draggers. It's not what you know its who you know and nepotism reigns supreme in todays world!! Some of the most wealthy people on this planet are some of the most inbred dumb fuckers known, but being born into money and employing bright people has always dug them hugh riches!! And greedy people work for them!! Humanity is bizarre and absurd!!
Intelligence is just one of many tools.
For a boxer, it's like being fast or strong or agile.
None of those attributes individually guarantee success for a boxer.
Intelligence is the same thing.
“A mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work if it is not open.”
Some people's minds are so open that their brains fall out
Smart people believe in stupid things because they don't know this 👉The Connections (2021) [short documentary]🌳
An open parachute is not much use on ground level. Indeed, becomes just a burden.
And you'll never know if it works until you deploy it and use it
@@jarbear7000😁 what I was about to write 👌.
Excellent Video! Thank you. Even if someone has the understanding necessary to create this video, it doesn’t guarantee that they have the diction and communication skills to clearly explain these phenomena. PS my favorite line: “an idea so idiotic that only an intellectual could think of it.” :-)
We live in a world that is drowning in information, but starving for wisdom.
Perfect
information isn't the same as knowledge but yeah
@@altrag3748exactly the point
So much information about this and that, but what do we truly know? Chances are, not much
You live in a world where sounding dramatic for likes should be considered a profitable job.
...I think that's also called "The news".
@@DeleteMyas not about being dramatic. It’s just reality. This has nothing to do with propaganda media.
"Being curious makes us humble" that's a great line.
I agree because I know I'm both curious and humble.
Sadly this video isn't very humble itself. Maybe ask someone who is left leaning about what being woke is about instead of just taking this video's word for it, preferably someone who is actually knowledgeable on the subject. This video is heavily biased and the whole point of it is to setup the strawman at the end.
and being humble makes us curious too!
@@VodShod it appears you know some stuff about woke, could you explain to me like I'm five? (actually a subreddit name, It's not an insult it just means you need to do... um... in-depth explanation I guess)
@@chaomatic5328 For people on the left woke is just a term referring to actually paying attention to injustices done to others which you were previously oblivious to.
Currently republicans use woke to refer to any situation where a minority is in a position of success, they claim that any minority has to have only succeeded due to "diversity hire", and that any minority that has a job which requires high level of skill must be only there due to "woke ideology". Maybe you can figure out why yourself, it is rather obvious in many cases, in other cases people just are parroting what they heard from other republicans.
this is a situation where a group of people with a lot of money and a social network arm create a narrative using a strawman to attempt to muddy the waters and demonize their opponents. An clear example of something like this is: like factory owners from the 1870s spreading propaganda that the push to have emergency escape doors was just an effort to support greedy workers in their organized attempt to steal from the righteous business owners.
This video is along the same lines, although it does have the Prager U style of obfuscation which gives half truths and makes leaps of logic to push a certain argument, all while giving a veil that it is discussing something that isn't controversial, they also use round about methods of describing what they are talking about. For instance instead of saying outright that you shouldn't trust experts in their fields you start with how intelligent people have been found to have bias then conflate bias with delusion. Claim that intelligent people are as susceptible to it as ignorant people, then slowly twist that into making it look like intelligent people are much more delusional than any other group, then demonize education and make claims that education is all about supporting delusions, then as a guise of "examples" make strawman arguments towards groups you want to demonize while claiming both sides have issues and never giving any example from a side the maker supports. Then use self help statements about curiosity and being humble and a disclaimer of trying to avoid bias to complete the veil of innocence.
If you ask me what truly makes someone smart is always questioning and challenging what is real.
Smart is understanding and/or picking up a given set of rules taken at face value quickly and intuitively.
Wise is slowly but surely extracting a sense of perspective and an internal auditing service from every formative experience you've ever had, and learning to apply the axioms thereof universally.
They have very little to do with each other on balance.
Like how Jaden Smith wonders if our eyes are real?
On top of that, leading with facts and not predefined biases. Someone can always question something sound and find something wrong with it because nothing in the world is absolute, or someone can always go in with an agenda (this happens not just in politics but also in science). But if someone can let the conclusion be data-driven, then the conclusion from the challenge will be more sound as well.
What is real? How do you define 'real'? If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, what you can taste and see, then 'real' is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
Couldn't resist quoting Morpheus 😁
“Each of us lives dependent, and bound by our individual knowledge, and our awareness. All that, is what we call reality.”
-Itachi Uchiha
Learning just enough to think you're right but not enough to learn you are wrong.
Curiosity and humility are the best tools against dogma and self delusion.
Winning arguments does not matter. Let go. Seek truth, grow.
Too much education, too much knowledge, not enough character. Bang on!
This video is a great service to every watcher.
Thanks.
Spot on Summary!
Are you slaves being marketed to you as arguing while theyre being tortured and killed?
Awesome comment! 99% agree 😉
"To be intelligent is to have a big engine in the car, to be rational is to have a good brake. If you never brake, you'll hit the wall. And if you have a big car, you'll hit the wall hard. You can be extremely intelligent and extremely biased. So above all, be wary of intelligent people more than others, because when they screw up, they screw up harder [...] So be wary of yourself."
This is from a French biologist I have seen on UA-cam some times ago. This video reminds me of this guy and his quote. I find it quite interesting.
UA-camr is utterly clueless - you cant argue with the fact Sociaists have videos literally named 'Top 10 Misconceptions dull dimwits think about Equity' and this video is literally quorting them. Nice dunning kruger effect, extra funny if they talk about 'Smart And Dumb'
and hey, hey, hey: whattt a coincidence, this video goes DIRECTLY to state conservative prpagana laughably easy to dbeunk like "WOKE PROFESSORS RULE THE UNIVERSITIESS AND ARE SPREADINGG BAAAD KNOWLEDGE".
No, the video has nailed your coffin, firneds and its aptly-named "Science istn Dogma, your just Stupid". Got the
spine to finish it? Haha, why am i even asking, of course not. Theres cliamte-change-deniers in the commentsection,
attracted by the Narrative here; i rest my case cause that's sooooo obvioussss.
This UA-camr i unsubtle bet will say 'Everything wrong ever'. Leftism debunks all this. Science isnt Dogma,
your jut Sutpid, fans of this conservative channel. Man, no wonder your Side is going under
As an amateur racer, I'd change it: intelligence is the powertrain, experience is your brake, rationality are your tires and the ground surface is reality.
Life is a track, and the single most important upgrade your car needs for a track is appropriate tires. Better brakes fatigue less, higher power accelerates faster, but you are hindered to do anything useful with both without a good grip.
We could extend the analogy further with emotional stability (suspension) and personality (aero and chassis dynamics), but it would get too nerdy.
"For the eye sees not itself." Shakespeare, Julius Cesar
It's important to have friends you can disagree with and listen when they disagree with you.
Excellent video! Especially on the point about being excellent at winning a debate rather than seeking truth!
The thing is that bias isn’t necessarily a bad thing. If one has a biased belief they might want to try to prove that belief using empirical evidence. What is important however, is to test your biased beliefs, arguments and evidence AGAINST those who do not hold those beliefs in peer-reviewed studies. The problem today is that the bias has a consensus status where not holding onto it will lead to being ‘canceled’. Thus, fear has a great hold over the scholarship.
If scholars were allowed to take a dissident voice without fear of their careers, then bias might not be a bad thing. It’s when tolerance doesn’t apply to different ideas that we see the dangers of biased beliefs
The ego has much to do with intellectual misperceptions.
Humble and self aware are key to wisdom.
Yes. As a kid I was that gifted kid, but so obnoxiously arrogant it makes me cringe. But I was just on the spectrum and my niche obsession was electrical engineering, somehow. Which meant I had to learn advanced concepts at 10 to learn my autistic niche. So I appeared gifted?.
Anyway, Because this compound is still hated, or misunderstood by so many. I took LSD when I was 19, it was one of the most important things Ive ever done. It gave me the abilities to be intently self introspective, almost to a fault? I dont think I ever admitted being wrong before this.
Im 30 now and still try to work towards my intrinsic being.
I not only have no issue admitting being wrong, but I seek it out as an error correcting technique. ITs in the same wavelength as failure. Which ever since I was a child. I knew that failure was nothing more than a tool to learn. It affords you the opportunity to learn, so Ive always embraced it as that. I learned this from electrical engineering as a kid, because you learn more from a failed circuit, than one that works the first time.
@@TheMookie1590 ~~ Your statement of, " you learn more from a failed circuit, than one that works the first time. ", is spot on !
Don’t forget curiosity 💜
Something americans lack
not really,ego is about selpreservation;superegis he culprit;using that terminilogy.
Long, long ago now my mom warned me about educated fools. Best advice EVER.
@@loturzelrestaurant and you are the same. :)
Educated only means that you have learned many things that may or may not be true.
Wise means you have figured out which ones were true and which ones were not.
Intelligence and wisdom don’t always ride in the same cart unfortunately intelligence and education don’t either.
@@maythewindblow3734 You just saying that proves nothing but i suppose you dont even know what proof is. Honey, friendly reminder that Conservatism is at War with Science and all sidesk now and admit so except maybe you and this channel here
@@maythewindblow3734 You literally just lied about me. What was that meant to show anyone? That your a dunce who cant defend themselves against ANYTHING? What, i dont watch ANY Science-UA-camrs? LOLLLLL, i literally do, hahahha. Iagine just hailmerying the s-it outta the idea of a reply to me. just randomly shooting in the dark and hoping for the best
Thomas Sowell's book "Intellectuals and Society", explains it perfectly.
Smart people think they are better than the rest of us, they think they're anointed, so to speak.
spot on! good mention of his book, thanks! :))
A bunch of charlatans who self appoint themselves as the way of shaping the lives of others and all of society, that’s what they are
On the contrary. Intelligent people wouldn't necessarily do that. People (stupid and intelligent) with big egos do that.
Sowell is quite good at times, but often wrong. He also has a big ego.
But see, in my mind being that way means you are "not smart". If that makes any sense; I currently lack the right words to fully express it.
More than likely, you have confused your beliefs with what narcissists believe, which is that they are better than everyone else, et cetera, et cetera.
Interestingly enough, narcissistic people come in the full intelligence spectrum.
1:38 there is a leap in logic here that mutually contradictory biases cannot be the result of greater understanding. For example, any intellectual disagreement about abortion stems from one side believing that a fetus is a living person and that abortion is akin to killing that person which is almost if not always murderous, versus the other side believing that a fetus has not developed enough to possess any degree of person hood and is there for simply a portion of the mother’s body. Most often this divide is created because one side believes in the concept of a soul and the other does not. Both sides can be perfectly logical and have complete understanding about the topic of abortion, however, no matter how much each side understands about the human birthing process and abortion there will still be some kind of divide as long as one side holds the world view that person hood is decided by a God given soul and the other believes person hood is a socially beneficial intellectual construct. Both beliefs are dependent on a world view that is separate from the topic they hold biases on.
Claiming a distinct human life at any point of development is merely a part of the woman's body is completely ignorant, though. From conception it is a unique human life with unique dna.
And personhood is of no help here, because it is just a restatement of the question, "should we care about unborn humans? If so, when?"
A fetus is a growing organism with its own distint DNA. If such a thing was found on Mars, what would it be called?
It is also hilarious that this isn't the only argument where conservatives base their stance in science and liberals in belief. Another area where they do this is on the topic of transgender individuals.
Conservatives believe that biology determines what you are, where as liberals believe that the individual is more than just biology.
This is a false dichotomy, there are *several* secular utilitarian arguments against abortion on every level of the gradient of allowance - be it concerns on time-preference and societal degeneration therefrom, concerns related to psychological damage to the mother in lieu of the degenerate apathy and lack of self-accountability that comes from the total-right approach mixed with a hedonistic world-view, whether it is of a localities, states, or federal jurisdiction, as well as secular deontological arguments for both sides within the Libertarian sphere; notably evictionism vs departurism vs private associative jurisdiction - concerned only with Natural Law as derived by Rothbard in his athesitic Aristotelian/Quasi-Objectivist tradition, and rebuttals from those who note his slight contradiction in ethics regarding intent and potentiality and seeming disregard or omission of how such considerations interact with a totally privatized societal order. In your attempt here you have only seemingly confirmed the very statement you attacked.
I will also note, though it may be pedantic given the limited and unofficial enviroment, you have also taken for granted as a presupposition a specific definition of personhood without noting even the possibility of any objections to it, and used this to bolster your favored side of the philisophical dichotomy you created - and on a more substantial note I will add such definition of personhood as a "socially beneficial *construction"* is epistemologically *absurd* and self-defeating - collectives do *not* exist, individual existence is an axiomatic prerequisite to any attempt at ethics as applied to individuals - any ethic that starts with a collectivistic notion, then tries to apply it to individual action as formulated and informed by action which is always individual - though individuals themselves can act in concert - is no logical ethic at all, but rather the whimsical apologia of a budding authoritarian who "definitely knows what is right this time". Social constructivism is nothing but the societally murderous death-throws of Neo-Marxism and Post-modernism desperately racing to see who can upend civilization first.
Theres A LOT of arguments against abortion which have zero basis in religion and have zero basis on the existance of a soul.
"master debater" was unexpected term in what I had assumed would be a serious discussion. nice touch of levity.
Masterbater
It's pretty childish, And undermines the essay.
@@kevdaag2523Then what term should be used to distinguish them from noob debaters?
This is so good. I was a builder and would tell the apprenticed to be teachable (humble) and curious. Don’t be afraid to ask questions, the only stupid question is the one you didn’t ask.
I worry that my apprentice is a bit too full of himself sometimes. He's OK for the moment because he's really obviously incompetent at pretty much everything, so he has to listen... You can see that he thinks pretty highly of himself though and I worry he'll become a PIA once he starts to learn a bit and starts to think he knows everything.
IDK what you do about it though.
@@stevem815
You can't teach someone who already knows everything.
If he thinks he knows something, he won't learn anything new about it.
Thing is, it's way too late to teach him a good attitude; his parents were responsible for that. Now you can only hope he decides to learn that on his own.
I'd sooner keep around a "dimwit" with a good (teachable) attitude any day of the week. You should too and you already know why.
Hope it works out with him.
There's also the "fallacy fallacy", where people use their own knowledge of cognitive biases to dismiss legitimate arguments
Do you mean like this video?
@@alvinmiller9038 Exactly my thoughts.
Basically just because something is poorly argued doesn't mean it's wrong.
could you give an argumented example?
grass is green because dwarfs paint it at night. wrong argumentation but grass is still green regardless.
This video is actually a good example of bias
In what way?
@@catherinecastle8576 one could say towards "wokeism"
@@TheBrickWhisperer In what way? Define wokeism.
@@catherinecastle8576 exactly
@@BrockliyHe didn't even state his own opinion, just made an objective observation, what makes you say he's biased
One of the important parts of our own education that we have lost is doubt. Doubt is a vital tool we use to find flaws in our thoughts and reinforce truths we know, but our culture hates the idea of doubts. Doubts are to be ignored and avoided so as to not disrupt the beliefs we are to cling to. Doubts are uncomfortable and our culture wants comfort over everything. To our culture, doubting is seen as a negative, that you have underlying biased "-isms" preventing you from blindly accepting the narrative message.
Doubt is one thing lost, I'll go one even more out there: shame. Or modesty, even.
Yes, doubt, shame, modesty, all limit of arrogance which leads to self-rationalization. One thing, however, is, are you looking for the truth or looking to be right? For my own purposes, I don't look for the truth or to be right. I look for what works, and what doesn't work. I have adopted many positions and over time seen that they just don't work. So right wingers think I'm leftist and left wingers think I'm rightist. One thing that makes EVERYONE happy is: the right denies science on climate, and the left, on gender. Took me years to get there.
@@Marci124
shame is seriously lacking in our societies
Doubt must assume that the person has to doubt themselves, admitting that what they know is insufficient. You mean people should entertain their doubts instead of believing their beliefs? Preposterous! How dare you suggest such blasphemy. My beliefs can’t possibly be wrong.
It feels good when the "truth" is simple. But the real truth never is.
I think the real problem is social media. Before SM you had to go out and learn what you were interested in. And when you spoke you had an understanding a little deeper than others and we learned from each other. Now days everyone can pretend they know more about a subject than they actually do. But they get upset hoping their frustration will suffice as intelligence. It’s insane. There’s so much more to explain.
... and every online 'debate' descends almost immediately into personal attack.
On the other hand, internet is the extremely powerful way to gain and spread knowledge. Yes, it could be used both for spreading truth and lies (and I personally had seen a lot of examples when lies too were spreading everywhere until one smart person found out that it's actually not true), but in essence it does make truth spread significantly faster than it was before the internet. It also gives people more opportunities to proof themselves wrong, since a lot of scientific knowledge is open in the internet
@@akeem2983 It's not just the speed: in the internet age, reputation means nothing. Having been wrong a dozen times- a hundred times- before is not impediment to pumping out BS and finding a willing audience.
Until the 1990s, politicians had to resign, media figures were sacked, liars were sent to oblivion and remembered by the public for being liars (thus discouraging others).
Politicians, news channels, celebrities promoting everything from science to cooking, put great stock in being seen to be honest.
The internet has freed us from consequences, from the guiding morality of (the better part of) society.
@@lllordllloyd Thats even the case in real debates today. As soon as they can't defend their arguments, they get into emotional rants and attacks. There is no disciplin and emotional distance in today debate culture.
@@prometheus9096 Very true. A twin of this is personalising a debate about history or philosophy. "I didn't kill those natives, why are you making me feel guilty?"; "Children do better with a parent at home? How dare you undermine our right/need to both work long hours!". Folks, it isn't about you (but feel free to reflect later on a personal level).
It boils down to Wisdom.
Data = Knowledge in all its forms
Memory = A store of Data
Intelligence = The innate ability to acquire, recall, analyse and produce Data
Wisdom = Application of intelligence with good judgement, morals, ethics etc.
Knowledge is owning a book
Intelligence is being able to read it.
Wisdom is understanding what you read.
And wisdom can't be learned in books. It is learned by living. Oh, philosophy will teach you a great deal, but it won't answer all your questions, for that, you need experience.
How incredibly intelligent, you managed to define your premises such that they validated your initial proposition despite demonstrating no rationale or evidence for their definitions and casual chains!
The next step toward being humble: stop drawing those you disagree with as caricature fools with boxes on their heads and yourself as a sage floating in the sky.
Humble? So if a man tells you he is a woman you say nothing and accept him as a woman? If a man tells you that you must accept his god as being your “savior” or get burned in his hell you say nothing? Be a pushover if you want, I will never allow be silent and accept such DumbFCKRY to be pushed on me.
He’s young. Deep, inescapable humility hasn’t found him yet.
I don't draw myself. I'm not this nice to look at... But i do this annoying Thing, called THINKING. Well, I know it has fallen out of Favor lately - but I'm old School.
God is a 3 foot tall maleGoatFCKR.
What? This comment is absurd. He is not showing himself and the people he disagrees with, he's showing people without bias and people with bias, no matter what they ultimately believe.
“One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision.”
― Bertrand Russell
that's a good quote, but it speaks about the opposite phenomenon from this video
That sucks for me because I feel both at all times in varying ratios.
I often find that I want to respond to a comment or statement because I disagree. As I start to write a response, I begin to reason if what I write might be a fallacy or based on false information. Often before I am done with my response, I'll chose not to post.
Not because I'm intelligent, but because I don't really know.
@@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447 Just because someone is an intellectual it doesn't mean they are not stupid. Some of the most imaginative and understanding people I've known have been of so called "average intelligence".
@@jasonc5413that seems self-contradictory: in order to be an intellectual, you must be intelligent, it's a pre-requisite. and if you have creativity/imagination and understanding then by definition you are intelligent
My grandfather dropped out of high school, joined the Navy, got a job working in a nuclear reactor after the Navy, did that for 10 years then became the head of maintenance for a massive corporation and retired nicely. The smartest man I have ever known and he didn't even have a diploma or GED. Dude could fix anything. Fro. Reactor parts to small engines to framing a house to tile work. Just built different.
Good for your grandfather. One must admit, luck & privilege were certainly on his side.
Some of the smartest people I have ever seen are like your Grandfather. They never got a higher education, but their ability to look at problems, break them down, and fix the issue was amazing. They then learned from the fixing of these problems and that has made them better men. I have this innate thing where I love to learn and do things , even if just one time. Having grown up poor also makes you extremely resourceful, which is something that rich people that go to these elite universities will never learn.
you are blessed to have such a great man for a grandfather. Its too bad he did not run for government. If we had people like him in government, things would not be such a mess.
So either you didn’t understand the video, or you’re just yapping.
People now a days will not give you a change, either you have a diploma and expercience or its there is the door. Regardless of skill.
There is a lot of wisdom in this talk. One of the lines that jumped out to me was, "Most goals of thinking are not to reach objective truth, but to justify what we wish to believe." And the solution...."the strongest countermeasure against bias is curiosity."
I have a mini whiteboard of quotes I like, I just took this one from the video: “Why do I really believe what I believe? What other reasons besides reason could I have?”
There is, but there is also a lot of hypocrisy here...
Ironically enough it's doing exactly what it describes, connecting things that have nothing to do with each other with half truths to create a narrative...
For example, I've never ever seen an academic claim that obesity is healthy neither exists a paper describing such a thing
@@milansvancara but their is a fat acceptance movement. a very slow movement but it exists.
@@MrChickennugget360 Depends on what you mean by fat acceptance. The only claim that came from educated background was, that a huge chunk of obese people get much worse and more obese if you call them fat and if you insult them, since stress and anxiety from the claim perpetuaes their bad behaviour connected to food, making it much less likely for them to lose weight.
*There was never an academic claim that being fat is healthy.* That was just version of few fat americans.
@@justinbuddy56 I've been wanting to ask that question many times during discussions... Usually remembering it afterwards only.
I found this very thought provoking. Thank you.
As my dad would often say when things went tits up, "you gotta be pretty smart to do something that stupid." Or another of his favorites, "you know just enough to get all the way into trouble but only halfway out."
Likewise, "Nothing can be made foolproof, because fools are so ingenious."
The ability to accept information from a supposed authority figure, and regurgitate it upon command, does not imply intelligence.
Intelligence Quotient needs to be separated into 3 categories.
1. Potential Intelligence Quotient (tested)
2. Applied Intelligence Quotient
3. Disabled Pattern Recognition (as applied to specific topics)
In other words, pattern recognition is the most prominent factor in a high IQ. Various buzzwords and their psychology are designed to disable pattern recognition about certain topics:
Ray SIs. T.
Home O. Fobe
ANT I SEAM IT ICK! *(most notably)
With your pattern recognition *(the highest IQ trait) disabled about these topics, your Applied Intelligence Quotient goes down. You will be unable to consider Krym stats of one people, bad touch rates of the next concerning children, and Mah Phia movements of the last, who are the brains of this Horde.
Explains why so many proudly wore their face diapers throughout the irrational fear narrative.
I never believe anything comes out from a jewish mouth, dan kahan for example!!
Well, his whole point in this video is that an intelligent person is better at rationalizing into an idea, authority figure or no.
When talking about 2020, it's a great example of how many people have made their minds up one way or another, and the smartest among them likely spent more time rationalizing whichever viewpoint they support, feeding into your own beliefs further.
No but it is the first step toward accumulating data for future deliberations.
As a "leftie" that can't stand wokeism I have given up on trying to discuss issues with so many people. Now I'm just interested in understanding how people think and come to the positions they hold.
I see so many people say that free speech is under threat and then in the next breath argue someone should be arrested for saying something they disagree with, it's fascinating.
Great video, thanks.
Damn, that resonated hard. Have you been asked how are you left and not aligned to woke nonsense?
People are to caught up in being right that they are not thinking about what is right and what might be harmful. They are not thinking. They confuse emotion for thinking and begin to believe that if they can suppress or limit speech for someone they disagree with, somehow that increases their own power in that right but the truth of it is the moment you become successful in limiting any right for those with whom you disagree with you.. You inadvertently limit and handcuff yourself in that right at the same time in the very same way.
So, those in power who are intent on deceiving and manipulation work to cause division and infighting amongst ourselves knowing full well that our unity despite our differences is the very thing that they must dismantle first. When it comes to our rights.. To assume I can take yours because we might disagree in some ways would just take away from me in the very same way. It is not a weapon that serves anyone of us well unless and only when we all have it together equally. When we become proud and divide and seek to use that weapon on one of our own just because they don’t believe and see things exactly like you and I and work to use that weapon to strike at that person or group we strike ourselves to and receive the same wounds and bleed out as well. It’s idiocy
mid-right here, same on both ends of the spectrum. I have friends on the far left and family on the far right, and I just like to observe how their brains work.
@@asdlom sounds like nothing is really at stake for you
There's nothing wrong with being on the left of the political spectrum. I apparently according to a test i did am more soc-democratically inclined but i don't consider myself an ideologue and definitely dont subscribe to the radical social democratic dogmas and believe they borderline on anarchy
A much-needed intelligent argument for all: those who look at both sides of every debate and those believing that their side always wins.
You can't be truly intelligent without being humble.
Got that right
These videos are just a circlejerk for people that overestimate their cognitive capabilities. If you believe in stupid, chances are you are stupid
Intelligence it's only measured with IQ. Wich it's problem solving focused. Howrever there are types of intelligence. Social. Phyloaophical and emotional intelligence. This if underdeveloped can create this paradoxx where a high IQ person it's dumb enough to think hks opinion it's better because he knows he has a high IQ
"I know that I know nothing", as a wise man from Athens put it, circa 400 BC.
I guess it depends on the definition of humble, but if humble is the opposite of arrogant (downplaying your capability) it is equally wrong as arrogance, and the right way is simply sticking to reality and the truth to the best of your abilities.
My granfather was a veteran of WW2,and a Mayor in the UK.
when imparting his wisdom,he said always question the middle word in life and always remember there are no pockets in shrouds, words that stuck.
A heartfelt thank you to After Skool for your time and effort for your content.
Its very much appreciated.
Such a great comment to an equal video. Cheers all
I have no clue what "the middle word" refers to and why one should focus scrutiny on that. Do other words get a pass on scrutiny or what?
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@@thulyblu5486 the middle two letters are i and f, if.
@@garlic9763 ah OK it's connected to "Life" and pretending that there is another word in the middle of the word life. Strange train of thought to me, I wouldn't have gotten that without explanation, thanks.
What's the difference between "conspiracy theories" and reality? Now it's just two months.
Historical data has shown the conspiracy theories are not conspiracy. They are reality as they have slowly unfolded
Change the wording around and it doesn't seem so crazy. "He has a theory of a conspiracy" .. interesting isn't it.
Hey... That's QUOTABLE!!
Can’t be a theory if you have evidence, wether factual or circumstantial.. that more than one person is plotting…
Honest question - I know we’ve been lied to about pretty much everything, but at what point does it become dangerous to just accept any conspiracy just because it’s a conspiracy?
I try to stop myself if I hear an argument that I can't counter and say "That's a good point, I don't know, I'll look into that." Of course it doesn't always work and I sometimes continue with the argument without enough information but it has helped tremendously with the biases.
Bro this video is so real, he's talking about everybody but me!
pfp matches the comment
"Other people are so wrong. Couldn't be me."
I’m kinda glad I’m not smart and very curious
so true frfr 😭
Lol, nice one
As a tech CEO I’ve hired hundreds of people directly. 99% of the college graduates thought so highly of themselves and were so set in their own ways, they never took the time to learn how to do things OUR way. It didn’t take long before I started favoring those WITHOUT college degrees.
Certifications + Work Ethic > 4 years of sitting in lectures
As a person who only has a an Associates degree and yet works for one of the world’s largest tech companies, I wholeheartedly agree.
I was hired at my tech company for my experience vs my degree. They didn't care I had a degree and never asked me about it. They wanted to know about my experience in the field and how that could bring value to the company.
So far, it's one of the best companies I have worked for. I'm seen as an expert in my area and also expected to keep up with the new information emerging in my field. My opinion is valuable, but I also know other people have great ideas and opinions too. Sometimes, another person's idea or opinion is what we go with because it is more sound. That level of thinking doesn't come from degrees, it comes from experience. (Many of us have lots of experience while less than half have degrees)
I've often heard it's better to hire someone w little to no experience so you can train them to do it a specific way. Overcoming old habits is a challenge, especially if they're so set on being right.
CEOs are fictional. You think you hired a slave?
I remember in the 90s the accusation was always that without religion people would be rational and open-minded. Here we are a few years later as more people have become atheist and those same people have invented the most absurd beliefs and enforce them with fervor upon others.
We really are our own worst enemies
The waste humans marketed as enemies?
I'd argue that wokeism is the new religion of the 21st century, they certainly act like religious fanatics did, like the bigots who burned Beatles albums because John Lennon said The Beatles were more popular than Jesus...the wokes do the same kinda thing, they "cancel" people for doing and saying things they don't like, they look for things to get offended by (think Satanic panic but in reverse)
Religion is not the reason. My country has majority atheist/non-believers, and the current woke AND conservative discourse (USA) is seen as pure nonsense here. On the other hand, most people in my country had enough of societal experiments for a lifetime... Not so in the west. Maybe it's time for forty years of a total shitshow on your part so you can get it out of your system.
You say atheists have invented the most absurd beliefs and enforce them with fervour upon others. Funny, because from my perspective as an atheist, it’s religious people that do this. This cognitive bias is a minefield.
It’s a common lie people believe that your philosophical/religious beliefs determine your intelligence.
“You can ignore Reality but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring Reality”…Rand
So, in short: "If you master debate too much, you could go blind."
Lol. Underrated comment.
It's 1am the whole house is asleep, I burst out laughing when I came across this. Cheers
This is how Jordan Peterson evolved from being a brilliant analyst using knowledge and logic to an aggressive moron using sophisms and eristic dialectics (and sometimes even worse, simply talking more and louder than his opponents, thus, yelling them down).
@@bestill365 I've seen it in several UA-cam videos. And quite frequently I have seen him cutting other peoples arguments by simply interrupting them and talking louder. That is not how convincing or debunking works.
Brilliant, Bill... I was wrestling with what to do with the 'master debater' thing as well. You nailed it.
“Without the right personal qualities more education will not make you a master of your own personal biases, it will only make you a better servant of them.”
That’s a quote. Harvard needs to put THAT over the door.
Harvard is fictional. A place lied about as Harvard should do what?
"Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools."
Correct.
It's a Spiritual matter. Everyone has a belief of something which determines their understanding of their action, but what belief is true?
Examine the beginning of life and death. Truth is known in their understanding.
Finish it
Claiming to be wise, they became fools, and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
@@BrettJones-k5u Ah, yes, Climate-Change-Denial and countless massive amounts of science-denial: ALl RIGHT-WIng-Staples but you nod your gullable head to a video that couldnt help but sprinkle-in THEIR OWN DELUSIONS, debunked into oblivion by Professor Dave's video "Science isnt Dogma, your just Stupid" into the video
@@Not_Mussolini_Is it wrong for an artist to paint birds and flowers? Grasshoppers and honeybees? If so, how is it okay for Muslims to make humanoid robots in the image of man? Or Christian societies to do the same?
Brilliant thoughts and presentation.
Great video. There is definitely a lack of curiosity and humility. We hold our opinions too strongly, afraid to be wrong.
I find it amazing that some people see sex, which is pretty much binary, as a spectrum - and then some people (such as Robin DiAngelo in her book) see race, which is a spectrum, as binary (white / non-white).
No one sees sex as a spectrum. Gender on the other hand, is seen as a spectrum. Sex has more to do with biological attributes that are associated with physical features. Gender is a social construct that has more to do with neurological characteristics and behaviors than physical attributes.
@@jadedstargazerthat distinction was fabricated whole cloth and did not gain popularity even within academia untill the 80s.
@@HeraBek I don't think anyone has a motive to fabricate the condition of being transgender. Least of all that Republican politician who was forced to confront it because it was becoming apparent to him that he had a trans daughter.
thinking a bit categorizing people in white/non white sounds pretty racist
@@jadedstargazer "No one sees sex as a spectrum"
This is patently false. If you disagree wit the position just say that instead of trying to disappear it.
A place like Harvard is filled with very smart, ambitious and politically careerist folks, so admitting that they might be wrong in a place which is defined by "intelligence" is a heavy pill to swallow. On top of that it is even harder for people to admit their mistakes because they collectively are very good at rationalizing their errors in thought...so a bunch of really smart academics at Harvard cannot possibly be wrong, right?
Many people from such places like Harvard have been proven to be wrong by others.
Excellent video. Thank you, and keep up the good work. I've definitely fallen to confirmation bias and no doubt will do so again
Not realizing the difference between believing, thinking, and knowing is a huge problem.
There are only two mistakes that one can make on the path to truth: Not starting and not going all the way.
This is great, the 2 mistakes. Well stated
Don't forget humility, although arguably is included with going all the way
What has helped me is being on either side of the political spectrum at some point in my life and realizing it's all the same control machine. No politician is your friend, even your favorite one
the lesser of the evil's is still evil
But the 'lesser' is STILL less.
But which evil is indeed lesser?
I remember in grad school that my advisor would admonish me whenever I used the word “believe” when describing data or information. He argued that “belief” requires no evidence so avoid the phrase “I believe …”. This practice made me, through my life, to be more critical in evaluating information and adopt an epistemic philosophy.
an econ professor conditioned us not to use the word "should" when discussing topics. That alone changed my mindset more than anything else in his class.
I use "I think" a lot because only fools speak in absolutes and a true intellectual understands that nothing is as simple as "black and white"
How is your advisor so bone headed? Regardless of our epistemic system we all believe in things like the sun consistently rising aka induction
@@omarclunis2466 Because 'the mind' /intellect uses 'beliefs' like foundation stones to be built on and to be fought over. Most minds HATE being wrong. He was training them to think openly and widely, before blindly believing without the full facts, just because they fit a current convenient desired outcome. Were you born with the knowledge that the sun rose every day? Many humans in times before, believed you had to worship the sun 'so it rose every day'...
Eh.
You have to believe in data. There is all sorts of potential faults, if you put a lot of effort into it… “ belief” is required to deem it representative of larger populations.
This video is remarkable for many reasons. One of the biggest ones are that it is guilty of propagating the same biases, beliefs, and fallacies that it also (rightfully so) warns against. Most people in the comments are unaware of it, but a few have pointed them out, and my guess is that the "herd mentality" will make most people side with the ones that accept all statements in the video as gospel. Ironic, isn't it?
Very ironic indeed, and you can tell alot of these people instead of trying to look at their own bias, are using this video as proof as to why the political parties they oppose are biased, the point flew over so many peoples head
So true. Honestly I was disappointed with this from them. Especially the “cat vs monkey” ridiculous comparison to Trans rights.
It was one of the more interesting videos I have seen from this channel (2, so not a bunch of competition). I dont fully understand why the herd mentality leads people to uniformly agree or disagree with a topic with various different points. I thought there were some…questionable points for sure (cat v. monkey for one 😬) but that doesn’t mean that you should disregard the whole video. His comments on curiosity made sense and are, what I think, genuinely beneficial to some. I dont agree with there being an objective truth to everything but his point about seeking that instead of winning arguments is certainly useful in objective subjects (what is objective could be subjective but idk).
It takes a strong person to admit they are wrong. It's easy to blame others or to claim ignorance, but it's much harder to realize you have been improperly educated and to accept your own short comings.
Great video, and very well put. Thanks for putting this information out for people to see.
Absolutely!
The dude hanging precariously into the chasm, desperately clutching the 'ego', is An EXCELLENT Example, of what blocks one's Path, to Objectivity.
Very nicely demonstrated!
I just think it's hard. There's unconstructive undertones in this video, that just wisp in the nuance layers. People are dumb because they appeal more to lying authority than they do people who tell the truth. They're also told not to trust the best sources and basically reinvent the wheel with that shoddy knowledge.
I can’t remember where I heard this, but I loved it so much I remembered the quote itself: Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to use it in a fruit salad. I feel that the more knowledgeable ppl these days become, the less wise they are. Maybe it’s bc we literally have the world in the palms of our hands, that there’s SO much information that we can no longer pick and choose what’s most important. Sort of like how digital media “prints” everything. It used to be that paper and ink were expensive, therefore the editors and publishers of, say, medical and scientific journals were far more discriminatory in what they printed. Now, it costs nothing to print “everything”, ideas and concepts no longer have to meet certain standards before being permitted to take up precious space. This is a problem, and for obvious reasons.
I know that I use that analogy to help try to explain the difference between wisdom and intelligence for people learning D&D and Pathfinder (as well as other TTRPGs with those attributes). No idea where it originates from though, haha.
"knowledgeable ppl these days ... Maybe it’s bc"
PPL? BC? Secret government codes!
Your argument doesn't hold water.The tomato thing being a fruit thing was not decides by botanists but was a tax thing.Vegatables weren't taxed but fruit was so some idiot put it in a category to make money!So you can't claim it's a scientific explanation!
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Excellent video.I'm going to subscribe to your channel.Thank you for sharing.
As someone who envies creatives, I just want to give a lot of credit to the artist of this channel for such original and expressive depictions.
absolutely brilliant stuff, but should we heap praise on natural talent?
Artists from fiction that includes UA-cam outside of fiction?
The gist of contemporary science (critical rationalism) offers a very helpful foundation against biases:
Science is about trying to prove that you're wrong - not that you're right.
Strictly speaking, there should be no such thing as defending an idea. We should all mercilessly attack ideas. When it seems we may be defending them, we should be merely clarifying them.
Man, this video verbalises the thing that has probably bothered me the most about society for years. There's nothing that makes me more depressed than an obviously irrational belief becoming "truth" for many people (myself not excluded) because it can be useful to be wrong at times. If I could change one thing about human nature, it would be the tendency for this to happen. This would've almost immediately transformed our society into something much better.
Or not. Humans display these behaviours for a good reason. They helped early Humans and their ancestors to survive and adapt. If Kahan's theory is correct and these behaviours do indeed exist (and that is not a given, there is no scientific consensus over this), then they would have evolved and been selected for because they contributed to the success of early hominids and humans. So without these behaviours, our society might not have existed at all.
I'd be very careful about wanting to change anything about human nature, since human nature usually has very good reasons for being the way it is.
@@jodofe4879 - a lot of what I will be saying now will be just my interpretation of reality and it may be not backed up by scientific research but this is how I believe things are. So, yes, humans display their behaviours for a reason but that reason is what helped them to survive and reproduce thousands of years ago, not what helps build us a better society today. For example, hurting other people may actually help you to reproduce because you get rid of competition. Such behaviours will be evolutionary promoted to some extent, even though they make our lives a worse experience. But I digress. I believe that our way of living as human beings has transformed so much over the past 10 000 years that we are almost like walking evolutionary anachronisms. A lot of our behaviours that were useful when we were living in small hunter-gatherer tribes makes us a pain in the butt in a globalised, industrialised society. Our brains have failed to catch up with the extraordinary rate at which we’ve been changing as a society. One example I’ve been able to observe in everyday life is that how humans will often argue like their life depends on it instead of admitting mistakes. They’ll sometimes defend such absurd positions, outright deny things you’ve seen them doing etc. Why do I think it is so? Because back in the day, arguments were often indeed life and death situations. While nowadays, your chance of dying because of murder is below 0.1% in most developed countries (yearly homicide rates below 0.002%), it was well over 10% in some acient hunter-gatherer societies (and it was during times when it was much easier to die of something else, otherwise the disproportion would’ve been even higher). Being assigned blame for something could’ve literally get you killed back in the day, so it was a survival instinct to outright deny any wrongdoing, but what it does nowadays is make people act silly, being unpleasant to others, refuse to admit mistakes, learn from them and move on. The problems we’re dealing with nowadays are much more complex than those of ancient, primitive tribes. Truth is more important to bettering our lives that it was thousands of years ago and out brains haven’t caught up with that.
Of course there may be unforseen consequences if we change something that was built a certain way by nature but I would still take a chance given how depressed I am to live in the current society. I frickin’ hate it so much that I would prefer to have never been born.
oft times i am glad i was proven wrong, we must always be open to the correct way and the way that will help others as a whole, not for control but for enlightenment.
6:02 I was listening at 2x speed and "master" and "debaters" got slurred together in my hearing into one VERY different word. I was quite flabbergasted for a bit. 😊
Humility always feels difficult to achieve because it seems like it has been compressed under heavy layers of sediment of narcissism, selfishness, and personal biases accumulated through our lives.
Humble people tend to be exploited and mistreated. Sadly our society rewards and even accommodates arrogance. Seeing humble people getting trampled on makes people not want to be humble.
Humility is there, when the efforts to 'ACHIEVE' humility, come to an end.
Trying to achieve humility is an act of self concern.
Narcissism, selfishness and personal bias, are all, pretty much, the same thing.
The Selfish cannot know humility.
If the selfish find it difficult to 'achieve' humility, it is because they have no idea what it is.
@@quinnfletcher3906 It's a defense mechanism of the ego, hence the ending part of the video. You can't feel hurt when losing an argument when you let go of your self-image. Those self defense mechanisms are also what keeps people from standing up for themselves, as some people may think wrong of them if they do.
virtue does not know it is virtuous @@bh_486
Man, do you sound humble! Well done!
I've built a significant potion of my adult identity on the label of "integrity". I espouse it as unique and the most important part of who I am. A little over a year ago, I made a mistake at work, and I had an opportunity to lie about it when confronted by that mistake. As I was known as honest and trustworthy, I could have gotten away with it. However, in that moment the words slipped out of me as easy as water, and I admitted to my fault. It is a very strange feeling to knowingly admitting to your mistakes and faults when there is real loss on the line. I'd lost the confidence of a person I considered a friend through my carelessness.
All that to say that I understand the need for people to lie. They lie to other people, and then they lie to themselves to mask the guilt of the initial lie to avoid pain and fear. The West is full of liars, and they are so wrapped up in the lies they tell the world that they believe them and live a in a world built on very shaky ground. They get violent when someone shakes those foundations because of the fear of it all crumbling around them.
At least you didn't loose the trust from yourself by knowing you're not a liar who sells out thruth.
I create my own reality and it's fantastic. My only rule is "be nice to people"
It's actually horrifying how much of human interaction and society is based on lying. It then becomes entierly comical how many people want "honesty" in their relationships, while at the same time honesty is pretty much unviersally punished and carries negative consequences for the truth teller. Most basic example is if you simply don't feel like attending and how if you DON'T make up a white lie for why you won't be attending a social gathering will be seen as disrespectful and instead of rewarding you for clearly communicating you are punished by being excluded the next time around due to others being unable to handle rejection and taking it personally.
It's a cultural thing. Us germans are, in comparison, not only to americans but to many neighbouring european countries, brutally honest, as you would probably experience it. Our "how do you do" is a little more honest, therefor not used that often, and you can tell a little about your normal daily struggles without breaking the social codes already.
Being able to confront your social group with inconveniences is key to productivity. You need those personalities in any given society. People like you (and me, btw) are important additions to any social group.
"By being careful about what I think, I develop trust in my thoughts." I like that.
This was worded extremely well... and beautifully drawn :) My mind is absolutely blown away!
I'm so glad you say all these things straight up, and in a straight face, A lot of people are worried about being cancelled and it only makes the issue you described worse.
Fear. It requires a complete removal of fear.
Not aggression. Fear.
Fear root meaning was "to perform, try, risk, experiment."
@@jimx45 From Middle English feer, fere, fer, from Old English fǣr, ġefǣr (“calamity, sudden danger, peril, sudden attack, terrible sight”), from Proto-Germanic *fērō, *fērą (“danger”), from Proto-Indo-European *per- (“to attempt, try, research, risk”).
Your point exactly?
Or are you here to be a perfect example?
@@Lee-ed9wv I am God
@@jimx45 🤣
I'm happy that it's finally becoming "safe" to push back against this madness.
For real the tide is shifting, it better not shift too far
Is this channel demonetized? I don't recall ads running.
Indeed. I think it's gotten to the point where the negative consequences have started impacting a critical mass of people. So concerns can't just be waved aside anymore.
It’s ironic that the people that claimed to stand for compassion and inclusiveness made people scared to talk
@@wabalubadubdubdub The pendulum has been swinging since the beginning. If left alone, it will eventually stop but it is constantly being pushed about.
This video seems so riddled with strawman arguments and the same biases it attempts to dismantle. Odd.
That’s bc the video is talking about you
It is certainly one sided. It isn't attacking the mental gymnastics found in intelligent religious figures or right wing politicians. I don't think it is actually a straw man argument, although I'd like to hear your thoughts on it
That’s what someone would say if this video was talking about them.
I assume you didn’t finish the video. I felt a similar way when he mentioned wokeness. However, the end of the video he talks about how intelligent people on either side of the political bias will be mad about any cognitive idea and mentions his own bias and shortcomings. This video seems far more informative and uses wokeness as a relevant example anybody could look at than an attack as a specific group and it seems being offended or pointing out bias shows the true message going over your head
I was looking for a way to some up my thoughts about this video, and your comment @julianossa3578 is exactly what was I was looking for.
My and my wife just watched this and it is compostela riddle with personal bias to the point that it's ironically comical