Heads up! WoWhead reporting that a Ion has talked about the removal of auto-invite in a Russian interview... www.wowhead.com/news=286329/blizzard-interview-with-game-world-navigator-warfronts-followers-disabling-lfg-a
Btw i been thinking also that why Voljin chose Sylvanas but did he say that spirits spoke but i believe it was Sylvanas plan also Sylvanas Valkyries can put visions and speak in mind? Maybe Valkyries spoke to Voljin making him think those were some other spirits and that way Sylvanas got Leadership easily.
So no joke, after you called Anduin a Mary Sue, it cut to a BFA commercial.....the one where he looks mad at the camera and puts his helmet on all angry like. Perfect timing!
Thanks for all the time and energy you've put into these videos. Very much looking forward to seeing what you do in BfA. Cheers, and have fun getting to 120!
Hey T&E! I've been watching you guys since 6.2! I was just watching your video today and halfway through I was suddenly struck by the amount of effort and love that go into these weekly segments. You two are awesome and I feel weirdly proud to see how much you have grown as a channel. I wish you all the continued success in the world!
Evi looks more stunning than usual! A certain light in the eyes. Love you two soooo much! Your insight into wow has helped voice a group I didn’t know I belonged to. Best to you both!
When you guys said how Aunduin lost a city since he was made king, failed to recapture Lordaeron, and allowed important prisioners of war to escape, Also forgot to mention that Since Sylvanas was made Warchief she lost a city, left the last bastion of Horde power in Eastern Kingdoms unprotected and open to attacks from the Alliance, allowed her commander to be captured, and caused a split in the faction that may lead to an internal revolution that could totaly crumble her faction. Just saying.
Lusus exactly. They both losing right now. Horde is at a bigger risk tho, as it's actions have unified the Alliance, while in return, the Horde could break at any moment. Not to mention Sylvermoon is exposed. The Exodar tho, is in a separated landmass, and the horde fleet is quite weak, not to mention the Vindicar and it's heavy armament. If this was an actual war, the Alliance could totaly turn this into a victory: Make the blood elves re-join the alliance, wait till the Tauren leave the horde, which is very probably as Baine disaproves of Sylvanas actions, and quite probably the orcs would turn against Sylvanas too, and follow Saurfang. But this is not a real war, so none of this will happen :) Sylvanas did a big gamble, and bet the horde in this war. Now we can just wait and see what will happen. Tho i don't think Sylvanas will live past this expansion sadly. And i realy mean it. Blizzard been killing lots of the big lore characters, and not so famous ones. Just think how many of them died just in WoD: Maraad, Baros Alexton, Garrosh, Taylor. Then in Legion we lost Varian, Vol'jin, Tirion. Before we "lost" Magni, i mean he is back but he no longer the leader of Ironforge. Thrall is kinda missing... and the list goes on.
I love your guys weekly shows and so glad to see someone with my sentiment like Taliesin with the Horde stuff that just happened this week. You two are great! Keep doing what you do and bringing the laughs to us all!
Yeah, that end to the the Battle for Lordaeron really did make Anduin look like a bit of an idiot, given how it was patently a trap. I won't say that only Jaina's presence saved them (Anduin could've holy shielded them again while Alleria opened void tears to provide a means of escape), but ironically enough Sylvanas's trap would've failed if Anduin had just let Genn charge in and disembowel her. Or called in a tactical laser beam strike from the Vindicaar on the throne room.
Evenmoor he was meant to look stupid. To show that no matter what he sticks to honor. I suspect by the end of this expansion he's going to have to do something really terrible.
RamCyrus, I have no problem walking through void tears as a holy priest. If I recall correctly (and I admit I may not be), Turalyon passed through them, but it caused him great pain. However, it's unclear to me whether this was because he is a paladin or because he's Lightforged. (If someone else has further or clarified information on this topic, I'd appreciate it!) Of course, there's also the matter of story versus gameplay segregation, which makes the conversation that much more complicated.
Adam Fortier Anduin may be faced with the choice of doing something terrible, but I doubt he'll take it. The thing about all of this is that it all started because Arthas was too weak not to take the easy choice every single time. That directly spawned Sylvanas who is repeating the exact same pattern of always taking the expedient path to problems and power. The scene in the Lordaeron throne room was a mirror of the WC III scene, but mirrors display reversed. Had Arthas ACTUALLY made the hard choice at any point at all, none of this would be happening. I'd like to believe this is Blizzard fed up and hitting people over the head with a brick who keep insisting Arthas 'made a hard choice' or 'was right'. No he wasn't. Killing innocents isn't ever right, and it wasn't a hard choice. Choosing which people to save. That's a hard choice. Choosing to kill innocents is just always wrong. Knock out your oldest friend and mentor and take a cursed sword? Kill your dad? Create an army of the undead? Kill some ranger too stupid to stay at range? Any point along the way if someone had just said, dude, eat a Snickers. You're obviously hangry. Then two 'generations' of WoW tragedy would be avoided.
your amazing spirits and helpful guides and insights have once again brought a smile to my face that rivals Taliesin's, thank you for your amazing work friends!
@Yosh24 You fanboys are so cringeworthy I feel sick. How about taking a break from your computer and try and score a woman of your own instead of drooling over married ones. Loser
"Drooling over"? Don't be disgusting. I love how people like you feel so serious. You just assumed that I am a fucking pervert, because of compliment. It seems like you are the only who should "take a break".
If you think that I was serious than I feel sorry for people without sense of humour like you. I have never even played a female character in any game. Aaand I do not need more lifes. I already have one ;)
been subbed since 14k and you guys have seriously NEVER missed a beat. spot on information with great personality to sell it. thank you for all that you do!
Just wanted to say thank you to both of you for starting your channel this last xpac. You bring a positive view on everything you report about, which is the opposite of every other major WoW video content creator out there. More people like both of you are needed in these times where toxicity is so prevalent in the WoW community.
So as the expansion launches tomorrow (Monday) in the UK and the Americas...does that make today Blizzmas eve and tomorrow Blizzmas, or are we going to be strict traditionalists and TOMORROW is Blizzmas eve and Blizzmas is the official release date of Tuesday? Confusing...but Merry Blizzmas!
the Taliesin's "YAS QWEEN" at 7:02 gave me life, death, afterlife and a Val'kyr to ressurect and get my life again. I'll never forget that. Thanks Taliesin.
They are geeks, especially the guy, he is sick. Guy stretches his eyes every god damn second as if he were surprised all day long. Seriously, never seen a guy be a bigger ass kisser to his gf EVER.
I always watch all your videos and today I even heard people talking about you in trade chat! It shows how funny and great you two have become! Thank you
Well, not that I'm defending stupidity, but Anduin is just a kid. He's an awesome diplomat, but an awful army commander. But, when you're a kid who has a badass dad like Varian, who survived death more times than Sylvanas died, you would never think that you need to be ready for a war at early 20's. Also, I don't know about you, but I was pretty stupid at my early 20's (I'm still stupid, but I'm less stupid now). So, yeah... It's weird to think that my adorable leader is a naive kid with a rabid dog, a crazy lady with her tree-bear-cat-bird severely wounded husband, Miss Edgy-runner and Queen Elsa by his ears, and it's even weird when you can't even play War properly but can think in better war strategies for those battles than Alliance did. I'm upset with my leaders. But I'm hoping for more character development on this expansion. Alliance king can't be a moron forever. He doesn't need to be the brightest (Varian wasn't in many occasions), but he needs to be more decent than that. Unless Anduin is actually Arthas's son, what would explain a lot, because Arthas was a disappointment after disappointment.
Whats he, like 18 ,in game at the moment and hes leading the entire Alliance, we've seen how hes relied on the others around em like Genn, Velen and others to gain insight, perspective and wisdom. Likely possible what you hope for to become actuality
Crmsnraider Exactly Genn or Alleria or Jaina or basically any other member could have pointed out that it is probably not a good idea or a trap. That is not only on anduin to blame. They are basically then all rubbish :'D
Nicku true. But still was risky. So many things could have still go wrong. Same thing for the horde side. So my statement stands. They are all rubbish. But still love them all ^^
Hello Taliesin & Evitel! I would like to say that I truly enjoy your content that you are creating. I have been playing world of warcraft sinds the end of TBC myself but I stopt playing in legion. Still! I like to keep myself updated and always watch you guys. The humor is always nice and cheeky ;) and I can always see that you are very passionate when you do a narration / explanation of a video. I would love to see a Taliesin & Evitel sea chanty with that instrument you got Tal! ;) Also.. if it is not asked to much. Could you both wear a Murloc Costume soon? regards from a 34 year old dutch guy from Holland
Skrax that “burn” was uncalled for. Also yeah he’s toooootally a loser for liking a game???? I’m also dutch and 18 years old and I like playing this game, I know plenty of older people who play this game and are no “losers” at all. Although I don’t even know what would qualify as loser in your eyes. If it’s about playing WoW then why are you on a WoW channel
No, there are separated xpac levels now. You have 1 to 300 from vanilla recipes, 1-100 for each the next xpacs. If you drop your crafting profesion, you can later on take it back, and recover all the recipes from Legion with a book, because those came from quests, that you can not repeat, but you will lose all the rare recipes from the other expansions. Just to name a quick example, if i drop my blacksmith on my paladin, i could no loger craft the felsteel longblade from TBC, and that recipe is fucking rare, but also the enchanted thorium armor as is no longer attainable, and those are just two examples from the list on just my paladin.
I appreciate your positivity. I'm still upset about the whole Teldrassil thing--haven't logged in any of my Horde toons since the Warbringers video dropped, and only logged in my Alliance toon briefly to do enough to get the hippogriff. Listening to you two talk about what's coming up has given me the first smidgen of excitement in two weeks.
Skrax it must suck to not be able to afford to support your favorite content creators, lucky that you can at least cry about it in the comment section though!
Taliesin, did you get your characters name from one of the numerous locations in Wales with that name? :) Just wondering as I applied for a new place to move too and Taliesin was a location :P P.S. I love both of your work, informative and hilarious!
Taliesin was also a 6th Century AD highly renowned Bard - a weaver of tales and stories and legend, fittingly! - though the name probably known more recently due to Lawhead's Pendragon Cycle, particularly the first book.
The week from the 13th up until the 19th of august will be remembered by my body as the unhealthiest period in my life. I already made preparations in the second week to take a vitamin and detox cycle. Wet noodle feeling incoming! And FOR THE HORDE! Side note if I don’t post any new video’s after 7 days I have either died or been hospitalized. :)
So my graphics driver is "out of date" now because up the prepatch update, but the game still runs, just at full DISCO! mode (If I update the drivers it looks fine but there is a stutter glitch on my mouse and i only get 15 fps) So I fell into Disco Sylvannas blight of bad coding!
When you say horde you mean orcs mostly... they are the ones who worry so much about honor and stuff but the horde is composed of many other races... goblins, forsaken and blood elves definitely don't worry about honor as fanatically as orcs do.
the only thing that I can say is that your chit chat at the end of every episode is just lovely... you are becoming my favourite wow channel next to nobbel
with the king killing the Asurite war machine with two blows of his sword it shows how weak asurite is so why are we trying so hard to amass it. not a good impression of its use
in the book Before the Storm, the two who were developing the azerite stuff for horde burned their notes so they wouldn't be part of killing thousands with the substance. That COULD be why it is so weak during this battle.
This has been bugging me too and is getting lost in the sootstorm of character debate. I thought the whole war is predicated on this new resource that is capable of changing the scales of power? Yet on both occasions when it's been showcased the old world magics have proven more effective. In burning the world tree, it was mage enchantments and shaman fires that took it down despite this weapon being right next door. At Lordaeron not only was the Blight made to look far more destructive, but then Jaina comes in on a flying arcane ship that then trumps the Blight. It just really boggles the mind with wonder for what was going through their storytellers heads. Showcasing the super resource to the audience early on in the narrative to show them why they should care about it is storytelling 101. What they've done is the equivalent of going into a Marvel cinematic with an infinity stone only to show it zapping individuals in a battle right before dropping on the field and vaporising the entire army.
No, it wasn't just Anduin, it was also a group of Alliance Champions who pounded on it. Meanwhile, while all you Alliance boys were busy fighting that single war machine, we the Horde took out all of your artillery AND siege towers. We lost one machine. You lost all of them.
It terms of 40k its quite simple Anduin is an Ultramarine and his daddy is secretly Rowboat Girlyman seriously though this has as much MarySueness AS them thanks to Matt Ward and his legion of cock sucking ultrasmurfs that he spawned from his horrid fan-fiction writing.
as Sylvanas said at the end of the war of thorns quest, they will be angry. and their anger will be their weakness. and it was. they walked right into a trap, blinded by anger and hatred. as for Anduin, while it was poor leadership, he has 2 hardened veterans with him. The rabid was well..... his usually rabid, psychopathic self and her sister was blinded by the void and hatred and anger and disgust. but they are veterans. they shouldve seen that coming, but they were so blinded they did not see it. i think the issue is this. people are use to meh writing. but then with introduction of Legion and BFA, they are getting complex, in depth writing and people, rather than analyze it, are going "REEEEEEE, MEH FEELINGS". like if you really analyze it, the warbring: Sylvanas, even her body language says it wasn't a tantrum. it was a i gave you an order, get off your bloody ass and get to work! then there are people like us who recognize complex writing and really analyze stuff. i main horde, but i play alli as well because i want to see what the other side says.
>Sets a "trap" >Saurfang Captured >brill has burned >undercity is in ruins >Silvermoon is now a straight shot through the plaguelands and up for the taking, its defenses still not back to full power since cata >Untold numbers of Forsaken are dead >the bodies of her allies (a tribal people deeply averse to necromancy) were desecrated with HER necromancy >She united her enemies more closely than they have ever been before >Dragged the Tauren and Pandaren into a war of genocide instead of survival >Desecrated sacred sights to druidism (something the tauren and trolls are rather fond of) >Didn't tell the tauren leaders that she burned teldrasil or started a genocide >desecrated lordaeron, something the rotters have worked hard to claim for themselves and their homeland >Survived the destruction of under city purely out of a desire for dealing with the foe with honor and decency on the part of her enemy >has created refugees out of her people >has created a clear shot for the conquest of gilneas Sylvanas is being written like a category 5 hurricane of stupid. She's not even morally grey, just Stupid and Tar Black. It's not complex, it's not deep, it's not your fucking rick and morty bullshit. This is BBC's sherlock, it takes a conspiracy theory to imagine that it's good.
Brill is about as important as the critters running about in game, both strategically and lore wise. She pretty much told Saurfang he could go die for his honor if that's what he wanted as well.
The Player(Hero of Azeroth, just saying. We did survive the Lich King, kill Deathwing, prevent the Iron Horde from rising and invading Azeroth AND put down Sargeras and the Legion) is just trying to help their faction and prevent shit from hitting the fan (Old Gods and such), while Azeroth (and Magni) is just trying to keep it together and heal her wounds.
Player since BL, I don't even play wow anymore (burnt out like a year ago) but I love this show so much. You guys are GREAT. Awesome to see bliz doing good stuff again and people being excited.
Not even the pronoun game. If he asked a slightly over-broad question, like "who can possibly lead us to victory against the Legion?", well, Alleria Windrunner did precisely that. And remember, they're Troll spirits!
You are two of my favorite people. You have yet to share an opinion I didn't agree with, and I'm 100% Horde. I love that you guys look at things from both sides.
I love yous guys! Thank you so much for this massively entertaining and simultaneously informative show! For myself however, I am just going to transfer mats to bank toons and lowbie alts however, I am an alt-aholic XD. If World Quest Dailies are still about, I might just fly through them in a handful of minutes because of gearing and get a big chunk of a level super quickly! Thanks again, you're the best!
I love your guys videos but Sylvannas is doing what is needed to protect the Horde. This is Warcraft and war is not pretty. Evitel looks amazing today. Keep making videos.
Both factions are at a stalemate at this poit, Amber XV. Alliance loses its influence over Kalimdor, because of the burning of Teldrassil and Horde loses its influence over the Eastern Kingdoms due to the fact that Sylvanas lost Undercity. We can actually see in the BfA Features Overview that most of Kalimdor is red, signaling Horde authority, while most of the Eastern Kingdoms are blue, signaling Alliance authority. And, of course, we have the Exodar and Silvermoon as a thorn in each faction's side.
I love these videos. They're so informitavie and theyre really funny. I love waiting for the shit show! when I see taliesin building up the compliments I feel like pressing pause and getting the popcorn. love you guys keep the vids coming.
New hair color looks great Evitel! Taliesin, good call returning to the formalwear, you should consider full Windsor knot instead of half. As always great show, by far my favorite wow content creators!
I stand by my argument that Sylvanas using blight at all, let alone so much of it, is a warcrime-level of cheating in war on par with holding civilians hostage or killing non-combatants, or more directly parallel, using chemical weapons in our world. On a tactical level, Anduin beat Sylvanas back at every turn, including STABBING her super-machinery to death. It's just she cheated and, at the end, pulled the equivalent of a Bubblehearth. Coming from a Paladin, that is NOT honorable.
war-crime is an oxymoron or a distinction without difference. man's attempt to place rules that govern inherently criminal acts (murder, aggression, violence, terror) is pure hypocrisy. when two neighbors can't get along and resort to fighting it's a crime, but when two nations can't it's war.
Morality of war is an actual debate, one that's been had since we've had war. But even those who side with war being needed have agreed certain acts are considered "War crimes." As in, crimes even in the context of war. Torture of prisoners, the intentional/avoidable killing of civilians, using weapons deemed inhumane like chemical warfare or nukes. To put it in Saurfang terms, it's dishonorable. Get that grade school woke argument outta here, yo.
Unsubbed months ago and tryed to turn my prepurchase into HS packs. This community passion is prolly the thing ill miss the most, so staying subbed. (Points for the Rupaul Ref. ! )
"We don't do damage control for Blizzard" Yeah you guys are pretty much a news outlet and bring patchnotes to life really, along with beta testing exposure and class guides etc. They don't tell you secrets. They don't need to pay you, the fact that you and other WoW youtubers can monetise the content etc is enough frankly. It's a bit like how Asmon doesn't care if other people make stream highlights and upload them and monetise them because it saves him having to pay people to do it legitimately. And if Blizzard did pay you then people would just not believe your opinions are genuine. Even people like Bellular, who has made content for Blizzard, has been critical of decisions despite the working relationship and it seems Blizzard are just fine with that. It's why I don't believe Bellular is a shill either. Just treating you like famous fans is enough for them, tbh. Anyway can't wait for your first Bfa release video.
I think your theory of the auto accept removal is probably pretty spot on. I was a surprised when i tried to queue for some fisher friends and had to actually be accepted xD
Heads up! WoWhead reporting that a Ion has talked about the removal of auto-invite in a Russian interview...
www.wowhead.com/news=286329/blizzard-interview-with-game-world-navigator-warfronts-followers-disabling-lfg-a
Oh... oh no
Taliesin & Evitel Do Games knowledge is power
Give it a minute.... The Aszhara video should out anytime too, just to completely make the jokes in this video irrelevant.
Next up, Sources say Evitel not too impressed with how Taliesin covers his bits.
Btw i been thinking also that why Voljin chose Sylvanas but did he say that spirits spoke but i believe it was Sylvanas plan also Sylvanas Valkyries can put visions and speak in mind? Maybe Valkyries spoke to Voljin making him think those were some other spirits and that way Sylvanas got Leadership easily.
Loved watching Tali spam click refresh in the group finder and then deny the one person who applied
It was a great pleasure XD
that was glorious
lmao! i noticed that too *gigglesnort*
When will we get to see the new backdrop for your bits?
And will we get to see your bits?
Hahahaha amazing
Hahahahahah, when you said “Anduin is rubbish” it cut to the bfa add of him staring all badass into the camera like “What did you just say?”
When the blight was thrown I was like. “Oh no it’s green!! Please no more green!!”
IT BURNS!
Bight's been green since Wrath... lol
Azerite is yellow :D
The Exile whoosh
Blight has been green since wrath, but wasn't green all the way back to RoC? =d
So no joke, after you called Anduin a Mary Sue, it cut to a BFA commercial.....the one where he looks mad at the camera and puts his helmet on all angry like. Perfect timing!
"Why Anduin is Rubbish" - *gets Anduin BfA advertisement* ... Blizzard is on to you guys
Thanks for all the time and energy you've put into these videos. Very much looking forward to seeing what you do in BfA. Cheers, and have fun getting to 120!
Only 24 minutes?!? Guess I'll just watch it twice then.
Ass kisser
Skrax Fan*
Hey T&E!
I've been watching you guys since 6.2!
I was just watching your video today and halfway through I was suddenly struck by the amount of effort and love that go into these weekly segments. You two are awesome and I feel weirdly proud to see how much you have grown as a channel. I wish you all the continued success in the world!
Evi, love the hair!!
👀
Evi looks more stunning than usual! A certain light in the eyes. Love you two soooo much! Your insight into wow has helped voice a group I didn’t know I belonged to. Best to you both!
That wink at 21:03.
You fucking virgin haha
And it was in the comment section of a Talieson and Evitel video that I lost my faith in humanity. Holy hell, you people.
What? Why? It was a cute exchange between them that was totally unscripted.
I'm not giving you shit for what you said- lol. I'm responding to the first comment here. The guy with the intelligently-crafted name.
I lol'ed so hard when she laughed and repeated "a new backdrop for your bits". That dirty thought that ran through her mind was pure gold
She gets more and more comfortable on camera every episode! Quickly becoming my favorite WoW channel!
When you guys said how Aunduin lost a city since he was made king, failed to recapture Lordaeron, and allowed important prisioners of war to escape, Also forgot to mention that Since Sylvanas was made Warchief she lost a city, left the last bastion of Horde power in Eastern Kingdoms unprotected and open to attacks from the Alliance, allowed her commander to be captured, and caused a split in the faction that may lead to an internal revolution that could totaly crumble her faction. Just saying.
Yeah but Sylvannas is "winning". She won the battle of the tree and she denied Undercity to the Alliance.
There are no winners in war. Just. Bigger losers.
At the moment both sides are equally losers.
Lusus exactly. They both losing right now. Horde is at a bigger risk tho, as it's actions have unified the Alliance, while in return, the Horde could break at any moment. Not to mention Sylvermoon is exposed. The Exodar tho, is in a separated landmass, and the horde fleet is quite weak, not to mention the Vindicar and it's heavy armament. If this was an actual war, the Alliance could totaly turn this into a victory: Make the blood elves re-join the alliance, wait till the Tauren leave the horde, which is very probably as Baine disaproves of Sylvanas actions, and quite probably the orcs would turn against Sylvanas too, and follow Saurfang. But this is not a real war, so none of this will happen :)
Sylvanas did a big gamble, and bet the horde in this war. Now we can just wait and see what will happen. Tho i don't think Sylvanas will live past this expansion sadly. And i realy mean it. Blizzard been killing lots of the big lore characters, and not so famous ones. Just think how many of them died just in WoD: Maraad, Baros Alexton, Garrosh, Taylor. Then in Legion we lost Varian, Vol'jin, Tirion. Before we "lost" Magni, i mean he is back but he no longer the leader of Ironforge. Thrall is kinda missing... and the list goes on.
I wanna see your face when you find out what happens next in couple of days.
She didn't lose 1 city.
She lost two. Brill burned with Undercity.
I love your guys weekly shows and so glad to see someone with my sentiment like Taliesin with the Horde stuff that just happened this week. You two are great! Keep doing what you do and bringing the laughs to us all!
Taliesin "I'm ready for those tentacles" - 2018
Cheers Talitel!. Again you are the highlight of the week. So hyped for BfA right now!
Yeah, that end to the the Battle for Lordaeron really did make Anduin look like a bit of an idiot, given how it was patently a trap. I won't say that only Jaina's presence saved them (Anduin could've holy shielded them again while Alleria opened void tears to provide a means of escape), but ironically enough Sylvanas's trap would've failed if Anduin had just let Genn charge in and disembowel her.
Or called in a tactical laser beam strike from the Vindicaar on the throne room.
Evenmoor he was meant to look stupid. To show that no matter what he sticks to honor. I suspect by the end of this expansion he's going to have to do something really terrible.
Anduin couldn't have used the void tears as light doesn't mix with void - same as Alleria being PW:Shielded.
RamCyrus, I have no problem walking through void tears as a holy priest. If I recall correctly (and I admit I may not be), Turalyon passed through them, but it caused him great pain. However, it's unclear to me whether this was because he is a paladin or because he's Lightforged. (If someone else has further or clarified information on this topic, I'd appreciate it!)
Of course, there's also the matter of story versus gameplay segregation, which makes the conversation that much more complicated.
The lil fucker has no experience leading an army and is only 18 years old.
Is it him that fucked up or whomever let him steer the boat.
Adam Fortier Anduin may be faced with the choice of doing something terrible, but I doubt he'll take it. The thing about all of this is that it all started because Arthas was too weak not to take the easy choice every single time. That directly spawned Sylvanas who is repeating the exact same pattern of always taking the expedient path to problems and power. The scene in the Lordaeron throne room was a mirror of the WC III scene, but mirrors display reversed. Had Arthas ACTUALLY made the hard choice at any point at all, none of this would be happening. I'd like to believe this is Blizzard fed up and hitting people over the head with a brick who keep insisting Arthas 'made a hard choice' or 'was right'. No he wasn't. Killing innocents isn't ever right, and it wasn't a hard choice. Choosing which people to save. That's a hard choice. Choosing to kill innocents is just always wrong. Knock out your oldest friend and mentor and take a cursed sword? Kill your dad? Create an army of the undead? Kill some ranger too stupid to stay at range? Any point along the way if someone had just said, dude, eat a Snickers. You're obviously hangry. Then two 'generations' of WoW tragedy would be avoided.
your amazing spirits and helpful guides and insights have once again brought a smile to my face that rivals Taliesin's, thank you for your amazing work friends!
I am still waiting for Evitel Allied race.
@Yosh24 You fanboys are so cringeworthy I feel sick. How about taking a break from your computer and try and score a woman of your own instead of drooling over married ones. Loser
"Drooling over"? Don't be disgusting. I love how people like you feel so serious. You just assumed that I am a fucking pervert, because of compliment. It seems like you are the only who should "take a break".
Doesn't get more cringeworthy than a man asking for a playable version of a woman he watch on youtube. Get a life.
If you think that I was serious than I feel sorry for people without sense of humour like you. I have never even played a female character in any game. Aaand I do not need more lifes. I already have one ;)
@@FalseInformation get wrecked
been subbed since 14k and you guys have seriously NEVER missed a beat. spot on information with great personality to sell it. thank you for all that you do!
21:00 Don't worry Evitel, I got it, even if Taliesin didn't
Just wanted to say thank you to both of you for starting your channel this last xpac. You bring a positive view on everything you report about, which is the opposite of every other major WoW video content creator out there. More people like both of you are needed in these times where toxicity is so prevalent in the WoW community.
So as the expansion launches tomorrow (Monday) in the UK and the Americas...does that make today Blizzmas eve and tomorrow Blizzmas, or are we going to be strict traditionalists and TOMORROW is Blizzmas eve and Blizzmas is the official release date of Tuesday? Confusing...but Merry Blizzmas!
I don't think that is Blizzmas more likely WoWmas.Blizzmas it must be at the time Blizzcon is being held.
BfAmas Eve!
Battlemas Eve?
Blizzmasception!!! Merry blizzmas
Nah Blizzmas comes once a year...it's either a wow expansion launch or a Blizzcon when a wow expansion is being announced. Merry Blizzmas
Great content as usual. You guys are top 3 wow channels and only one I clicked the bell for. Keep it up and thank you for the hard work.
Blizzard already cleaned my quest log for me.
yeah, had a couple pals that happened to. that sucks. BUT, I was able to get CLUCK! back so it's all good now.
IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW.
lmao
You guys are so full of love and happiness, that’s why people love your content. Keep up the good work guys ❤️
Have you tried using a polarizing filter on your camera to remove the reflection off her glasses? Will push the quality abit further for like... $20
Sounds good we'll check it out thanks! :D
the Taliesin's "YAS QWEEN" at 7:02 gave me life, death, afterlife and a Val'kyr to ressurect and get my life again. I'll never forget that. Thanks Taliesin.
That Sylvannas laugh though
you two make an awesome couple! thanks for all the laughs and also the time that goes into making these videos!!!!
You two are so dorky and awkward.. I love it! Keep up the great content! =)
They are geeks, especially the guy, he is sick. Guy stretches his eyes every god damn second as if he were surprised all day long. Seriously, never seen a guy be a bigger ass kisser to his gf EVER.
I always watch all your videos and today I even heard people talking about you in trade chat! It shows how funny and great you two have become! Thank you
I LOVE YOU GUYS THANKS FOR DOING THESE VIDEOS 💙💙💙💙💙💙
AAAAGGGHHHH YOU LOVED IT *Fangirls so hard*
you couldnt have said it better :)
They do them for money and not for you.
Love that you both continue to bring us joy and laughs. I look forward to each weekly video.
Skrax shut up strax you're the potato one
Not long come across this channel, pleased to say you guys have become by far my favourite content creators. Keep up the good work ❣
Nice trap Sylvanas xD
Sylvanas is a trap at this point.
Found you guys a week ago and I've been binging on all your recent content. Love it!
Well, not that I'm defending stupidity, but Anduin is just a kid. He's an awesome diplomat, but an awful army commander. But, when you're a kid who has a badass dad like Varian, who survived death more times than Sylvanas died, you would never think that you need to be ready for a war at early 20's. Also, I don't know about you, but I was pretty stupid at my early 20's (I'm still stupid, but I'm less stupid now). So, yeah... It's weird to think that my adorable leader is a naive kid with a rabid dog, a crazy lady with her tree-bear-cat-bird severely wounded husband, Miss Edgy-runner and Queen Elsa by his ears, and it's even weird when you can't even play War properly but can think in better war strategies for those battles than Alliance did.
I'm upset with my leaders. But I'm hoping for more character development on this expansion. Alliance king can't be a moron forever. He doesn't need to be the brightest (Varian wasn't in many occasions), but he needs to be more decent than that. Unless Anduin is actually Arthas's son, what would explain a lot, because Arthas was a disappointment after disappointment.
Keep those videos coming you are like my weekly News That I watch every sunday. Keep going :)
Anduin still a boy king, i hope him grown more in this exp.
Whats he, like 18 ,in game at the moment and hes leading the entire Alliance, we've seen how hes relied on the others around em like Genn, Velen and others to gain insight, perspective and wisdom.
Likely possible what you hope for to become actuality
Crmsnraider
Exactly Genn or Alleria or Jaina or basically any other member could have pointed out that it is probably not a good idea or a trap. That is not only on anduin to blame. They are basically then all rubbish :'D
Why would jaina and alleria care about traps when then can tear rifts in space to transport instantaneously to any given location?
Nicku true. But still was risky. So many things could have still go wrong. Same thing for the horde side. So my statement stands. They are all rubbish. But still love them all ^^
sascha b
Hope him kills Sylvanas.
What.
Hey T&E, coming from work to see you have a video out was the best thing happened today, ( yes some people work even on Sundays ) Thank you!!
still waiting for zandalari trolls to become playable D:
Hi Taliesin and Evitel glad to see another video of yours.
Hello Taliesin & Evitel! I would like to say that I truly enjoy your content that you are creating. I have been playing world of warcraft sinds the end of TBC myself but I stopt playing in legion. Still! I like to keep myself updated and always watch you guys. The humor is always nice and cheeky ;) and I can always see that you are very passionate when you do a narration / explanation of a video. I would love to see a Taliesin & Evitel sea chanty with that instrument you got Tal! ;) Also.. if it is not asked to much. Could you both wear a Murloc Costume soon? regards from a 34 year old dutch guy from Holland
Jamie Buiten I always give a like to people who have Guybrush Threepwood icons
Talking about sea chanties... ua-cam.com/video/y9bXjttMxKY/v-deo.html :P
Correction, a 34 year old "loser" from holland. No need to thank me.
Skrax that “burn” was uncalled for. Also yeah he’s toooootally a loser for liking a game???? I’m also dutch and 18 years old and I like playing this game, I know plenty of older people who play this game and are no “losers” at all. Although I don’t even know what would qualify as loser in your eyes. If it’s about playing WoW then why are you on a WoW channel
You guys are the best WoW Channel on UA-cam i really love you both! Thank you
I dunno you guys, but i ain't trowing away my professions i've had since 2004 with lots of rare vanilla patterns and plans.
Ye I have every leatherworking recipe (except for 1 from sunwell and a few that are no longer available)... but I might dump alchemy instead .
LOVE your avatar
it's all crammed into 1-100 you won't lose anything calm your sausages.
No, there are separated xpac levels now. You have 1 to 300 from vanilla recipes, 1-100 for each the next xpacs. If you drop your crafting profesion, you can later on take it back, and recover all the recipes from Legion with a book, because those came from quests, that you can not repeat, but you will lose all the rare recipes from the other expansions. Just to name a quick example, if i drop my blacksmith on my paladin, i could no loger craft the felsteel longblade from TBC, and that recipe is fucking rare, but also the enchanted thorium armor as is no longer attainable, and those are just two examples from the list on just my paladin.
Paul Smith about your leatherworking can you make stormshroud set gear pieces? because if you do we need to talk...
I appreciate your positivity. I'm still upset about the whole Teldrassil thing--haven't logged in any of my Horde toons since the Warbringers video dropped, and only logged in my Alliance toon briefly to do enough to get the hippogriff. Listening to you two talk about what's coming up has given me the first smidgen of excitement in two weeks.
Just became a patreon, feels good man :)
Thank you friend! :D
You mean you just became an ass kisser. "Feels good giving my money away to strangers on youtube".. Get a life loser
Skrax it must suck to not be able to afford to support your favorite content creators, lucky that you can at least cry about it in the comment section though!
say what you want, you won't bring me down man :P
There’s toxic ppl everywhere
Taliesin saying "Yaas Queen" with the voice and enthusiasm of cigar-smoking goblin really made my day
I played that scenario on multiple toons the skeletons are randomly generated they've been different every time
Last ever weekly reset!!! Don't talk that way Bro!! We need you two!
Okay....EVITEL!!!!! ....Looking really good this episode 10/10 so pretty!!!!!
Gamers don't get older, they level up!
Cant wait for all the content you guys will pump out during BfA 😍
slowly becoming my favorite youtube channel ...the pilot wings intro is shweet
Taliesin, did you get your characters name from one of the numerous locations in Wales with that name? :) Just wondering as I applied for a new place to move too and Taliesin was a location :P
P.S. I love both of your work, informative and hilarious!
Yes there's a theatre in Swansea called Taliesin which I really like :))
Ahh I thought so, I can't imagine yourself naming your character after the street in my hometown. (Cwmbran) :')
Taliesin was also a 6th Century AD highly renowned Bard - a weaver of tales and stories and legend, fittingly! - though the name probably known more recently due to Lawhead's Pendragon Cycle, particularly the first book.
There's also an old board game called Taliesin!
taliesin's sense of humor is the best. he never fails to make me cry in laughter, thank you xD
The week from the 13th up until the 19th of august will be remembered by my body as the unhealthiest period in my life. I already made preparations in the second week to take a vitamin and detox cycle. Wet noodle feeling incoming! And FOR THE HORDE! Side note if I don’t post any new video’s after 7 days I have either died or been hospitalized. :)
For the Horde!!!
ThatRealGamerGuy I hope you wrote A Will...
You two are hilarious. I don't even play WoW anymore but I still watch your videos for the entertainment.
So my graphics driver is "out of date" now because up the prepatch update, but the game still runs, just at full DISCO! mode (If I update the drivers it looks fine but there is a stutter glitch on my mouse and i only get 15 fps)
So I fell into Disco Sylvannas blight of bad coding!
Direct X 12 &/ nvidia update. Still lag lately has been bad in new dal.
Just switch to Dx11 it helps alittle bit
Same issue till I switched from directx 11 to 12. Depends on your cards, I’m running dual 1080’s so mine clears up using 12 rather than 11
So much love for you guys! Have fun in BFA!
Sylvanas is the warchief we need... If Saurfang was the warchief we would have died long ago because of his honor.
um GOOD.
I rather would have died with honor instead of doing all this messed up stuff for the Lich Queen
Barbarology ! You honestly think the alliance would start a war with an honorable and peaceful Horde? You're off your rocker
When you say horde you mean orcs mostly... they are the ones who worry so much about honor and stuff but the horde is composed of many other races... goblins, forsaken and blood elves definitely don't worry about honor as fanatically as orcs do.
This!
the only thing that I can say is that your chit chat at the end of every episode is just lovely... you are becoming my favourite wow channel next to nobbel
with the king killing the Asurite war machine with two blows of his sword it shows how weak asurite is so why are we trying so hard to amass it. not a good impression of its use
in the book Before the Storm, the two who were developing the azerite stuff for horde burned their notes so they wouldn't be part of killing thousands with the substance. That COULD be why it is so weak during this battle.
This has been bugging me too and is getting lost in the sootstorm of character debate.
I thought the whole war is predicated on this new resource that is capable of changing the scales of power? Yet on both occasions when it's been showcased the old world magics have proven more effective. In burning the world tree, it was mage enchantments and shaman fires that took it down despite this weapon being right next door. At Lordaeron not only was the Blight made to look far more destructive, but then Jaina comes in on a flying arcane ship that then trumps the Blight.
It just really boggles the mind with wonder for what was going through their storytellers heads. Showcasing the super resource to the audience early on in the narrative to show them why they should care about it is storytelling 101. What they've done is the equivalent of going into a Marvel cinematic with an infinity stone only to show it zapping individuals in a battle right before dropping on the field and vaporising the entire army.
No, it wasn't just Anduin, it was also a group of Alliance Champions who pounded on it. Meanwhile, while all you Alliance boys were busy fighting that single war machine, we the Horde took out all of your artillery AND siege towers. We lost one machine. You lost all of them.
Legend has it Anduin uses the inner power of MarySueness to do things. And to exist.
It terms of 40k its quite simple Anduin is an Ultramarine and his daddy is secretly Rowboat Girlyman seriously though this has as much MarySueness AS them thanks to Matt Ward and his legion of cock sucking ultrasmurfs that he spawned from his horrid fan-fiction writing.
been watching you since evitel barely was on your show. keep it up. your writing is the best in the biz.
15:45 fucking dab
lol I hella noticed that to
Trolls be flippin’ out brudda!
omg I love you guys!!!!! loved the video, look forward to each one each week and any in between! /hugs
as Sylvanas said at the end of the war of thorns quest, they will be angry. and their anger will be their weakness.
and it was. they walked right into a trap, blinded by anger and hatred.
as for Anduin, while it was poor leadership, he has 2 hardened veterans with him. The rabid was well..... his usually rabid, psychopathic self and her sister was blinded by the void and hatred and anger and disgust.
but they are veterans. they shouldve seen that coming, but they were so blinded they did not see it.
i think the issue is this. people are use to meh writing. but then with introduction of Legion and BFA, they are getting complex, in depth writing and people, rather than analyze it, are going "REEEEEEE, MEH FEELINGS".
like if you really analyze it, the warbring: Sylvanas, even her body language says it wasn't a tantrum. it was a i gave you an order, get off your bloody ass and get to work!
then there are people like us who recognize complex writing and really analyze stuff. i main horde, but i play alli as well because i want to see what the other side says.
>Sets a "trap"
>Saurfang Captured
>brill has burned
>undercity is in ruins
>Silvermoon is now a straight shot through the plaguelands and up for the taking, its defenses still not back to full power since cata
>Untold numbers of Forsaken are dead
>the bodies of her allies (a tribal people deeply averse to necromancy) were desecrated with HER necromancy
>She united her enemies more closely than they have ever been before
>Dragged the Tauren and Pandaren into a war of genocide instead of survival
>Desecrated sacred sights to druidism (something the tauren and trolls are rather fond of)
>Didn't tell the tauren leaders that she burned teldrasil or started a genocide
>desecrated lordaeron, something the rotters have worked hard to claim for themselves and their homeland
>Survived the destruction of under city purely out of a desire for dealing with the foe with honor and decency on the part of her enemy
>has created refugees out of her people
>has created a clear shot for the conquest of gilneas
Sylvanas is being written like a category 5 hurricane of stupid. She's not even morally grey, just Stupid and Tar Black.
It's not complex, it's not deep, it's not your fucking rick and morty bullshit. This is BBC's sherlock, it takes a conspiracy theory to imagine that it's good.
Brill is about as important as the critters running about in game, both strategically and lore wise. She pretty much told Saurfang he could go die for his honor if that's what he wanted as well.
As they have pointed out, Ion never said Sylvanas was morally grey. that was a running joke.
its us and azeroth that is morally grey.
In what way are we and azeroth morally grey tho?
The Player(Hero of Azeroth, just saying. We did survive the Lich King, kill Deathwing, prevent the Iron Horde from rising and invading Azeroth AND put down Sargeras and the Legion) is just trying to help their faction and prevent shit from hitting the fan (Old Gods and such), while Azeroth (and Magni) is just trying to keep it together and heal her wounds.
Player since BL, I don't even play wow anymore (burnt out like a year ago) but I love this show so much. You guys are GREAT. Awesome to see bliz doing good stuff again and people being excited.
The Loa spirits whispered a name to Vol'jin, but we don't know which name. Food for thought.
scrombat When you died(x2) even the woods of Silverpine whispered the name: Windrunner.
There are three surviving Windrunners.
Little did he know they meant any other Windrunner sister, just not Sylvanas.
Not even the pronoun game. If he asked a slightly over-broad question, like "who can possibly lead us to victory against the Legion?", well, Alleria Windrunner did precisely that. And remember, they're Troll spirits!
Well I suppose Vereesa could join in with her Blood Elf cousins but Alleria is firmly Alliance for obvious reasons.
Though I doubt she will.
You are two of my favorite people. You have yet to share an opinion I didn't agree with, and I'm 100% Horde. I love that you guys look at things from both sides.
sylvanas may not be the best at making the horde look good but the horde is winning the war.
Tycandrias We'll see
Au contraire. She is the best at making the Horde win therefore ....
Sylvannas sounds like Panzer from trade chat . I love your videos
Evitel ..... my goddess ...... how does she look more perfect n stunning every time i see her ???????????????
That underbite ruins it for me
I loved what she did with her hair this time, looks really good:)
New lighting
@@mikehillenbrand2559 good thing shes married and your opinion is irrelevant
That giggle at "new background for your bits" was adorkable.
Did you say "she's not making the Horde look grey"? Because if so we actually agree, but you might just have said "great".
EDIT : @ 7:14
I love yous guys! Thank you so much for this massively entertaining and simultaneously informative show! For myself however, I am just going to transfer mats to bank toons and lowbie alts however, I am an alt-aholic XD. If World Quest Dailies are still about, I might just fly through them in a handful of minutes because of gearing and get a big chunk of a level super quickly! Thanks again, you're the best!
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The forum quotes are priceless... and you two are incredible!
Technically, I think that Evitel IS in fact, your coworker. She should probably call HR.
i think they are married to each other so might be a legal grey area
Fact is, she's the head of HR, and she reported the incident to herself. Guess who's doing dishes tonight?
Hahaha. I didn't even think about that one.
Always happy to see a new video from you two!
Also love the fact your name is based off a Welsh place :3
"I don't give a damn about experiencing the content". LUL
That intro skit genuinely had me laughing. Always appreciate what you both do!
Sylvanas will blight Boralus calling it now
Håvard Ramberg YAS QUEEN
I really like her, but, wont mind if she go chokes on some azerite now though
my absolute favorite thing right at the end... E: "I messed it up again" and T: "NOO... it was perfect" just the best lol Happy BFA day...
I love your guys videos but Sylvannas is doing what is needed to protect the Horde. This is Warcraft and war is not pretty.
Evitel looks amazing today.
Keep making videos.
We actually agree :)
Evitel always looking amazing
how? She lost her city because of war she started. And it's not like she gained territory by attacking tedrassil, since it ended destroyed as well.
Both factions are at a stalemate at this poit, Amber XV. Alliance loses its influence over Kalimdor, because of the burning of Teldrassil and Horde loses its influence over the Eastern Kingdoms due to the fact that Sylvanas lost Undercity. We can actually see in the BfA Features Overview that most of Kalimdor is red, signaling Horde authority, while most of the Eastern Kingdoms are blue, signaling Alliance authority. And, of course, we have the Exodar and Silvermoon as a thorn in each faction's side.
I'm so excited! First time I'll be playing a fresh expansion in years, have fun everyone :)
"Many will not understand"
I love these videos. They're so informitavie and theyre really funny. I love waiting for the shit show! when I see taliesin building up the compliments I feel like pressing pause and getting the popcorn. love you guys keep the vids coming.
PogChamp
New hair color looks great Evitel! Taliesin, good call returning to the formalwear, you should consider full Windsor knot instead of half. As always great show, by far my favorite wow content creators!
I stand by my argument that Sylvanas using blight at all, let alone so much of it, is a warcrime-level of cheating in war on par with holding civilians hostage or killing non-combatants, or more directly parallel, using chemical weapons in our world. On a tactical level, Anduin beat Sylvanas back at every turn, including STABBING her super-machinery to death. It's just she cheated and, at the end, pulled the equivalent of a Bubblehearth. Coming from a Paladin, that is NOT honorable.
Genn Greymane: Not to mention stealing my homeland, and killing my boy...
war-crime is an oxymoron or a distinction without difference. man's attempt to place rules that govern inherently criminal acts (murder, aggression, violence, terror) is pure hypocrisy. when two neighbors can't get along and resort to fighting it's a crime, but when two nations can't it's war.
Morality of war is an actual debate, one that's been had since we've had war. But even those who side with war being needed have agreed certain acts are considered "War crimes." As in, crimes even in the context of war. Torture of prisoners, the intentional/avoidable killing of civilians, using weapons deemed inhumane like chemical warfare or nukes. To put it in Saurfang terms, it's dishonorable. Get that grade school woke argument outta here, yo.
@@JacksonJinn yet despite those so called war crimes the countries that do take prisoners, hostages etc still break those “rules“. Gg ez
Take your honor and switch factions. Honor doesn't get you wins, it gets you dead.
Unsubbed months ago and tryed to turn my prepurchase into HS packs.
This community passion is prolly the thing ill miss the most, so staying subbed.
(Points for the Rupaul Ref. ! )
Do you guys seriously just get cuter in each video?
The little figures of your character models are awesome!
It'd be cool if people could buy those of their own characters :D
great video btw
"We don't do damage control for Blizzard"
Yeah you guys are pretty much a news outlet and bring patchnotes to life really, along with beta testing exposure and class guides etc. They don't tell you secrets. They don't need to pay you, the fact that you and other WoW youtubers can monetise the content etc is enough frankly. It's a bit like how Asmon doesn't care if other people make stream highlights and upload them and monetise them because it saves him having to pay people to do it legitimately. And if Blizzard did pay you then people would just not believe your opinions are genuine.
Even people like Bellular, who has made content for Blizzard, has been critical of decisions despite the working relationship and it seems Blizzard are just fine with that. It's why I don't believe Bellular is a shill either. Just treating you like famous fans is enough for them, tbh.
Anyway can't wait for your first Bfa release video.
Bellular is far more critical of Blizzard in his critiques, than Taliesin and Evitel.
I think your theory of the auto accept removal is probably pretty spot on.
I was a surprised when i tried to queue for some fisher friends and had to actually be accepted xD
Evitel looking more tan the bronze aspect. The perks of a summer honeymoon, I guess.
Great guide, guys!
Well this is taking a whole new turn with Taliesin requiring a backdrop just for his 'bits' :O
The intro is priceless! I love it soooooooo much!
Seriously the best part of my WoW day!!! WHO AM I?!?! *leans in close*