I love how there is such a difference in the off-head and the buried beater sound. The doubles when playing buried give it a really fun and almost electronic two-tone sound. Fun idea and great execution Mike!
Some manufacturers like Tama used a polymer bass drum hoop with the claws so to speak molded in. On the rockstar series from the late 90's well into the 2000's. Might still be a thing with the new mid-level imperialstar kits. I know they look a bit garish but, no need to lay out hole patterns and drill because the hoops would line up everytime.
Personally, I think this bass drum would be perfect for low volume rehearsals or jam sessions. Or even cafe gigs where you want a deep pitch but quick decay. Its a win!!
Very capable bass drum sound to my ears, Mike! I seem to like the sound of wide open shallow bass drums and of course the portability. As a full time working drummer, I love watching your channel. I am now thinking about cutting down my 20” x 17” Spaun Bass drum (from the early 2000’s when deep bass drums were still a thing:-) into a 12” and having a 5” deep shell left might lead to a shallow build.
Traps makes a compact drum kit where the bass drum is essentially the drum head stretched over a hoop. There's maybe a few inches of shell, but that's it. One of the cool things you can do since the drum clearly has a defined pitch is tune it along with the bass or the key of the song you're using it on.
Just got a set of Earthworks mics for drums that I use for live. I'd recommend trying a Earthworks SR20LS BD mic placed under the snare pointed at the BD beater on that drum. I tried it that way on a recent live recording of a 10 piece swing jazz band and was impressed with the result.
Those are great in looks and sound! I can see this being very practical when playing on a small or shallow stage. Regarding the screw eyes, have you considered inserting a rubber grommet so that tension rod doesn't rattle up against the screw eyes? The idea of creating a dummy kick for a logo drum head is brilliant. Thanks for the awesome video.
I have a 20" x 8" Yamaha kick and as much as I love how it sound wide open like yours, I placed a flat strip along the inside of the reso head to muffle it a bit and then poked small holes (nail sized) aligned with each claw to let out some more air. You might want to try that to control the tone. Also, an Evans EQ3 or 4 would sound killer on it. Cool drum though.
Great video. I'd be putting a mesh head and some medium density foam inside along with a kick trigger and be converting that bad boy into an electric kick drum. I'd also be really keen to see/hear how this kind of project would work on an 18 or even a 16 kick drum. Perfect for those hell load ins and/or smaller rooms.
I was really surprised at how good of a deep punch you got. I have a Tama Club Jam Mini 18x7 kick, and I've always been disappointed in the lack of punch. The extra diameter definitely seems to help this one.
awesome! reminds me a little of the kick from the Beastie Boys' track Pass the Mic. they put a refrigerator box over the bass drum and put the mic at the end of the box to get a serious boom effect. the low tuning here sounds similar w/out the box, haha.
i really want to do this with a 20" to use for gigs like the Dixon Little Roomer or the Yamaha stage custom hip would leave enough depth to have single point double ended lugs like on the pearl roadshow jr
No it wouldn't. You hit it with sticks, and it's gunna sound like ass. Maybe with just 1 head, and the same mic. But just on its own it will sound like paper
@@NintenDub There are already mounted bass drums on the market, almost like what Mike built. Probably not for everyone, but it does have viable applications.
1. Very nice video, i enjoyed it 2. I have an idea, could you make a video about how you got into drumming and UA-cam? If you haven’t already. Or who inspired you to get into it. I think it would be cool to know and also grow the community closer together to you as a musician and creator!
Could be a nice Sub-Kick option when recording too! Just like how you were putting in front of your kit, it’d be interesting to see what it would sound like in that way!
Pretty interesting. Just bought a Yamaha Hip Gig kit myself. I like it, but , like you, I think cranking the BD lugs will be the only way I can get a good sound. i keep experimenting.
You see a couple of companies doing the single-sided kick (Pearl has a couple now), and some that do 20x6 skinny kicks, but nothing quite like this. Would be good for a little corner-of-room practice kit. Store it under the bed when you're done.
Great project, and the drum sounds better than I thought. Next time you play around with that drum, try setting it up flat and not angled towards you, this should give you even more Boom according to Bob Getzen.
I actually took it apart and sold the hoops, and then kept the rods, claws and spurs. Honestly more useful to me than the drum. But i could make another one if you’d ever want one.
Mike, since you don’t ave any real plans for that bass drum, have you ever considered turning it into a gong drum, or is the diameter too large? Great show, my carpentering compadre❤️🙏❤️🙏👏❤️🙏👏❤️
Give some parts away ? because there a lot of young creators (not content creators) like me who are just starting out and would love to have a project they could step into that would give them confidence and introduce them to the world of making their own sound
Weve all been wondering what a super flat kick would be like but you were brave enough to do it
It’s what I’m here for…
I love how there is such a difference in the off-head and the buried beater sound. The doubles when playing buried give it a really fun and almost electronic two-tone sound. Fun idea and great execution Mike!
Yeah, I noticed that too and enjoyed playing it.
Sounds way better than what I expected. 👍👍
Thanks!
Sounds really good in the higher tuning!!! Keep up the good work !!! Love your content, always🥁✌️
Thanks! Will do!
Had no idea DW made hoop mounted spurs. You just solved a problem for me.
Pick up a set up for yourself: sweetwater.sjv.io/m5WknO
That would be a sweet bass drum to leave a silenstroke on for practice
Yeah, it would be great for that.
Some manufacturers like Tama used a polymer bass drum hoop with the claws so to speak molded in. On the rockstar series from the late 90's well into the 2000's. Might still be a thing with the new mid-level imperialstar kits. I know they look a bit garish but, no need to lay out hole patterns and drill because the hoops would line up everytime.
Those hoops are pretty great for budget kits.
Personally, I think this bass drum would be perfect for low volume rehearsals or jam sessions. Or even cafe gigs where you want a deep pitch but quick decay. Its a win!!
Exactly!
Very capable bass drum sound to my ears, Mike! I seem to like the sound of wide open shallow bass drums and of course the portability. As a full time working drummer, I love watching your channel. I am now thinking about cutting down my 20” x 17” Spaun Bass drum (from the early 2000’s when deep bass drums were still a thing:-) into a 12” and having a 5” deep shell left might lead to a shallow build.
Love that idea!
What a great buskers bass drum 🤘🏼
Indeed!
Sounds great for some lofi hiphop
Absolutely.
Traps makes a compact drum kit where the bass drum is essentially the drum head stretched over a hoop. There's maybe a few inches of shell, but that's it. One of the cool things you can do since the drum clearly has a defined pitch is tune it along with the bass or the key of the song you're using it on.
I’ve seen a few single headed kicks like that.
Ok! Out of all the custom drum videos I think this is the best one. Simple, efficient and fun … great content brother !!
I appreciate that!
I love this.....I've done many ''Frankenstein'' projects......Ralph Onofrio
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Badass, dood. I love seeing the custom built/repurposed stuff
I got so many more ideas cooking in that realm.
That kick sounds really great actually, reminds me of DW series pancake bass drum!! Nice work
Yes, pretty similar.
Just got a set of Earthworks mics for drums that I use for live. I'd recommend trying a Earthworks SR20LS BD mic placed under the snare pointed at the BD beater on that drum. I tried it that way on a recent live recording of a 10 piece swing jazz band and was impressed with the result.
Earthworks Flex
Those are great in looks and sound! I can see this being very practical when playing on a small or shallow stage. Regarding the screw eyes, have you considered inserting a rubber grommet so that tension rod doesn't rattle up against the screw eyes? The idea of creating a dummy kick for a logo drum head is brilliant. Thanks for the awesome video.
I didn’t have an issue, but I made sure they didn’t make contact with the eyelets
Mike you’re killing it, man! Love the project and production. 💪🏻🔥
Thanks Dan!
Very cool. I’m surprised no vent holes. As you stated, different head combos would be interesting.
No room for one!
I have a 20" x 8" Yamaha kick and as much as I love how it sound wide open like yours, I placed a flat strip along the inside of the reso head to muffle it a bit and then poked small holes (nail sized) aligned with each claw to let out some more air. You might want to try that to control the tone. Also, an Evans EQ3 or 4 would sound killer on it. Cool drum though.
Nice!
@@malonedrum I also made a tiny kick recently converting a 13" rack tom into a kick. Pretty cool and punchy.
Muffling or a port hole would be interesting! For recording you can use this as a woofer!!
Agreed!
Great video. I'd be putting a mesh head and some medium density foam inside along with a kick trigger and be converting that bad boy into an electric kick drum.
I'd also be really keen to see/hear how this kind of project would work on an 18 or even a 16 kick drum. Perfect for those hell load ins and/or smaller rooms.
Cool idea
I was really surprised at how good of a deep punch you got. I have a Tama Club Jam Mini 18x7 kick, and I've always been disappointed in the lack of punch. The extra diameter definitely seems to help this one.
I've owned that Tama club jam before. I liked it for jazz stuff.
i think that the perfect depth of a bass drum is 14" or 15", because 22 x 14" or 24 x 14" will be the best sizes, in my opinion
I love 14" depth drums, Im definitely not trying to say a 3.5" deep kick is the best.
awesome! reminds me a little of the kick from the Beastie Boys' track Pass the Mic. they put a refrigerator box over the bass drum and put the mic at the end of the box to get a serious boom effect. the low tuning here sounds similar w/out the box, haha.
I'll have check that out, cool stuff.
love that router table! man, took me forever to try and just build that! Cool bass drum build - sounds killer!
It's a simple table, really only good for doing drum edges
Dude you have a great acoustic 808.
Heavy 808 vibes with this one.
It's actually the Yamaha stage custom advantage. The Yamaha stage custom was 22x16.
Actually, it's the Yamaha Stage Custom Birch.
This is a super cool idea. Definitely more tension rods and maybe try a smaller than usual port hole.
Would have liked 8 tension points
I like it Mike, would also make a very nice pancake floor Tom or gong bass.
or a pancake 22" snare?!?!
looks like fun!
I have the rest of a Keller maple bass drum shell left over from a previous project.
Maybe I will use it for something like this.
Do it!
It maybe could be used as a bass drum "woofer" in front of a smaller bass drum. But it might be a bit tricky to find the right tuning for that.
Im sure it could
i really want to do this with a 20" to use for gigs like the Dixon Little Roomer or the Yamaha stage custom hip would leave enough depth to have single point double ended lugs like on the pearl roadshow jr
Do it !
sounds great!
Thanks!
I wish I had your wood working talent!! I suck at stuff like that LOL
It’s seriously never too late to learn
Dang! That's awesome tone! That would be a great tom. too.
Ha, a 22" tom!
No it wouldn't. You hit it with sticks, and it's gunna sound like ass. Maybe with just 1 head, and the same mic. But just on its own it will sound like paper
@@NintenDub There are already mounted bass drums on the market, almost like what Mike built. Probably not for everyone, but it does have viable applications.
1. Very nice video, i enjoyed it
2. I have an idea, could you make a video about how you got into drumming and UA-cam? If you haven’t already. Or who inspired you to get into it.
I think it would be cool to know and also grow the community closer together to you as a musician and creator!
Yeah, that’s something that would be fun to share.
Nice project Mike! Might be interesting to use it as a woofer infront of another BD and see how it works for that!
Good idea!
Love your content! It’s an extra slim Yamaha Custom Hip, which I’m currently thinking about to purchase
I've played those, they're fun
Would suit gigs in those tiny venues where every inch counts on stage
Absolutely!
Its basically a DW sub-woofer! Would make a great kick for electronic kit/triggered kick situation.
Yeah, I agree!
Could be a nice Sub-Kick option when recording too! Just like how you were putting in front of your kit, it’d be interesting to see what it would sound like in that way!
That would be cool
Pretty interesting. Just bought a Yamaha Hip Gig kit myself. I like it, but , like you, I think cranking the BD lugs will be the only way I can get a good sound. i keep experimenting.
I’m not sure if that, may just need a different head/muffling combo
I would use it like some type of FX Gong Drum, i bet it would be a nice sound🤘
Yeah, definitely.
You see a couple of companies doing the single-sided kick (Pearl has a couple now), and some that do 20x6 skinny kicks, but nothing quite like this. Would be good for a little corner-of-room practice kit. Store it under the bed when you're done.
Agreed
Really cool :)
Thanks!
I really like it, but I wonder how it would sound if you were to take it further and make a huge snare drum out of it.
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THANKS THANKS
I think it sounds decent!
Thanks
Awesome video man!
Glad you enjoyed it
killer!
Thanks
mic the batter side ! undo one of the lugs until it's nearly undone
Never been a fan of batter side miking on a kick, but maybe I need to give it another shot.
Great project, and the drum sounds better than I thought. Next time you play around with that drum, try setting it up flat and not angled towards you, this should give you even more Boom according to Bob Getzen.
Is that based on a theory that the drum will vibrate on the floor more and transfer more low end?
I think it has more to do with the clamp of the Bass drum pedal, not digging too hard into the hoop. Just give it a try.
@@uwepetersen Noted.
It doesn't have the right to sound that fat! Cool af. Thank you, man!
It's a phatty
So....I guess instead of a pancake, it's a pankick. LOL 😆
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nice job mike!
Thanks Shawn!
Just an idea: how about you put offset lugs for that drum, so you can tune each head differently?
Have you seen the price of single point lugs?
Loved this one! Well done as always. Would you honestly consider selling this at some point?
I actually took it apart and sold the hoops, and then kept the rods, claws and spurs. Honestly more useful to me than the drum.
But i could make another one if you’d ever want one.
I didn't think it was bad at all for low volume or jazz gigs. Tone wasn't horrible.
Agreed.
Add some snares!
Thought about that! A&F sells 22” snare wires
Gotta hear it with some muffling.
It's so shallow, that you'd need to be very light with muffling.
Mike, since you don’t ave any real plans for that bass drum, have you ever considered turning it into a gong drum, or is the diameter too large?
Great show, my carpentering compadre❤️🙏❤️🙏👏❤️🙏👏❤️
Probably too big for that
Makes me feel like my 8x15 kick is a reasonable size haha
It is!
Great video Mike BUT I think you'll find the Traps acoustic kit has a skinnier kick drum.
Those drums are ..... interesting
Use it as a sub kit confront of your bass drum
Bingo
And i thought the Famer Foot Drums 18x4" was thin
I mean, that’s really thin
Acoustic 808
All Analog!
How about a line of Malone custom kits? Another possible revenue stream.
Just for me, for now.
Give some parts away ? because there a lot of young creators (not content creators) like me who are just starting out and would love to have a project they could step into that would give them confidence and introduce them to the world of making their own sound
I really enjoy holding onto parts so I can use them myself for projects, but good luck on your creator journey!
@@malonedrum The main question is , Which creator doesnt like holding on to parts XD
Why? If your that worried about space, get one of those kits where its just the heads and a half inch rim
I much prefer a two head drums over those.
Sounds like a normal kick to me
Convincing at least!
Yamaha hippest gig
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You forhot the air expansion hole, no tone without it.
I actually feel like the port hole takes away tone (sustain)
Why not mount it as like a pancake drum 🤔
You certainly could.
Mount it like a pancake drum.
Lots of recommendations for that
Gimmick.
Ok, great.
Could you please make me one?
Absolutely, for a price
Okay how much?
@@user-or4ey8cy3f send me an email (malonedrum@gmail.com) with your location and if you have any parts for it to start off
Once upon time pipe name bass drummers played very skinny bass drums. They sounded terrible.
Scotch bass drums! I own one
@@malonedrum terrible things. Modern pipe bands use 14” to 18” deep drums. Hard to see past but much nicer tone.