Hi, Thank you for this video. I recieved my P2 a few days ago along with the RA2, followed your instructions and the tumbler came out perfectly. The only thing I was not sure about is how you determined 14mm distance from laser to tumbler.
Excellent video, thank you. I use the RA2 with a D1 Pro, and consider myself to be a fairly experienced user, nonetheless I learned several good tidbits from your video.Thanks again!
How did you determine the size of the letters? I understand about the width of the cup changing but how did you determine without a lot of trials? Is there some kind of ratio? Loved the video and will refer back to it.
oh my word, that's a lot of "mathing" on the letters -- and I'm curious why you didn't change anything on the shape of the racket since it was also on a taper? I loved the video, great detail!
thank you it helps ! I tried to engavred glass, but without the riser base it sees to be completed. I used the roller but i can not determine which number put in the material heigh. Either the laser broke the glass or does not mark it at all...
What did you measure to get the 88mm diameter? I have a design but not sure where to put in the measurements because when I did it tried to wrap the whole design around the tumbler vs keeping it in a general area how you did with the tennis rack and name. I just don't know what I'm missing to not understand how to do that.
Did i read this correctly in the comments? That engraving only took 5 min to do? Thats good i think. I'm looking to get something to replace my basic glowforge.
Oh wow, this is great!! So I am in my first couple days of owning my very first laser, the xTool P2. This is perfect. The only question is what are you measuring for the distance where you got 14mm? thank you in advance for any help.
My RA2 is spinning before the engraving starts all the way to the other side and then will start engraving. Any idea what it could be? Any help would be greatly appreciated
I believe I had previously let the machine do an automatic measurement and it came up with that number. Then I just re-used it on the next tumbler. Hope that helps.
Awesome video, I'm new to my P2 and learning every time I use it.. I learned a lot with your video but still have a question... the measurement of the DISTANCE ?!?! How did you do it?😅
On this project I used the automatic distance measurement that the P2 designated. It uses the red laser pointer to measure distance to the work surface.
If I’m doing glass and I don’t want to mask it, I can’t use automatic measurement, so what does this distance refer to? I’m guessing it refers to height above the top of the slats (when fitted). Maybe a future enhancement but shouldn’t the auto measure feature work the highest point for itself, given an approximate starting rectangle?
Hello, If the entire part of the tumbler that will be engraved is tapered then yes. If the taper were to stop before the end of your engraving then the letters wouldn’t need to be changed after that point. Hope that helps.
question I do my tumblers using the rollers. in the xtool software you have to put the laser on the highest point of the cup. Then in the software you have to place the green line in the center as well. This making you line up the design to the edge of the green line in the software. If I want to line up to an existing logo on the cup this makes it not very easy. Am I doing something wrong. Due to not lining up to center of the design this makes it hard to do.
Right. I know what you mean. I've had to use some trial and error a bit on some projects to get things exactly where I want them. I hope xTool changes that process.
My RA2 pro doesn't have the aviator connection for the P2. Do you mind doing a conductance check and posting the pinout that the cable has? I have some aviator connectors and some stepper wires and can make my own, but rather not trial and error my connection.
Try this link. Note the orientation of the rectangular plug with the two tabs, and the round plug with the indentation at the bottom. Also the rectangular plug only uses 4 of the 6 spaces. Hope this helps! www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rdd3yx8u4kci12c39ifs7/R2pinout.jpg?rlkey=qodrr3nlapau9rxeui2wj8o2x&dl=0
Just measured it on my own P2... This works without a riser base but is limited to the smallest diameter (A) roller setting. You cannot use the chuck or any other RA2 accessories. To do this, remove enough slats to place the roller base in the tray, which puts the top of the rollers at about the same height as the slats. This lets you engrave round items (pencils, pens, dowels) up to about an inch in diameter.
@LastLegWoodworks omg if someone orders 30 Tumblers, it would take 10 hrs.. plus all the extra work can be 15 hrs. It is a lot, have you used the XTOOL F1? Seems to be faster. Good video.
Well I found out by making the mistake of not making any adjustments for my first one. I noticed the letters gradually changed as they travelled up the tumbler. I just measured the difference between the first letter and the last letter and divided that amount between the total number of letters. I’m sure there is some mathematical way that is beyond me to figure that out, but I did it the hard way😊
The only time I’ve ever adjusted was for circular shapes, never had an issue or complaints about “misshapen” letters. Agree, this is a miss by the UA-camr
Its not a circular shape that causes the issue, its the conical shape of the tumbler. With the letters running along the length of a tapered tumbler. (as in this video) You tell the rotary tool what the circumference of your tumbler is, but its only that circumference at one spot. Along the taper it changes. So if you want say, 14mm tall letters, the rotary tool is rotating a certain amount to result in that 14mm letter. But if the circumference is larger than the measurement that you entered, then more surface area will pass under the laser tip, causing the resulting letter to be taller, and if its smaller, then less will pass under resulting in a shorter letter. I didnt realize this until I had engraved a tumbler with all the letters at the same height and the letters gradually got larger as the moved up the taper on the tumbler.
15:05 for anyone watching, make sure your image doesn't go over that green line (into the shaded area). or the software will tell you " out of processing area" i had to find that out the hard way. i had my line at the highest point and had the image splitting that line, thinking the rotary would spin.... doesn't quite work that way. lol
Your training is top tier!
Hi, Thank you for this video. I recieved my P2 a few days ago along with the RA2, followed your instructions and the tumbler came out perfectly. The only thing I was not sure about is how you determined 14mm distance from laser to tumbler.
This guide is absolutely excellent. Thank you for the lesson.
Your a great teacher! Thank you for the info! Mahalo 🤙🏽
I've got a P2 and had my RA2 for a few months and not taken it out of the box, your video was a big help.
Hey, great video. I appreciate the actual step by step you showed everything.
Great video, one of the easiest to follow. Thank you!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
Very nice. Thanks for walking us through this. I have been wanting to do this.
Excellent video, thank you. I use the RA2 with a D1 Pro, and consider myself to be a fairly experienced user, nonetheless I learned several good tidbits from your video.Thanks again!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
Very nice overview. Just setting up for a 20-tumbler order on a new P2 and that helped. Thank you.
Thanks for the video. Try dawn powerwash and stiff Toothbrush to clean.
Mil gracias!!!!
Superb videography - inspired!
You earned a solid follow for this.
How did you determine the size of the letters? I understand about the width of the cup changing but how did you determine without a lot of trials? Is there some kind of ratio? Loved the video and will refer back to it.
Guy doesn’t seem to respond to questions. Typical.
can you share the formula on how to come up with and how you determine the height difference with the letters?
Suggestion: level your tumbler and shim the open end of the rotary. Works for me. What was you total burn time? Great video!
That’s what I did, at 5:15.
Is that what you mean?
oh my word, that's a lot of "mathing" on the letters -- and I'm curious why you didn't change anything on the shape of the racket since it was also on a taper? I loved the video, great detail!
Great job on this easy to follow very helpful! Got my sub!
Thanks!
thank you it helps ! I tried to engavred glass, but without the riser base it sees to be completed. I used the roller but i can not determine which number put in the material heigh. Either the laser broke the glass or does not mark it at all...
Would the rotary attachment work on a wine bottle cut? As in the design engraved all around not just on the front of the glass?
Yes, absolutely, the rotary tool can continually rotate.
Great overview.
What do they means by "distance" and how you determine it? What distance is being measured? Im new to this. Thanks
The machine has an automatic measurement feature that uses a laser pointer to measure the distance to the work piece.
What did you measure to get the 88mm diameter? I have a design but not sure where to put in the measurements because when I did it tried to wrap the whole design around the tumbler vs keeping it in a general area how you did with the tennis rack and name. I just don't know what I'm missing to not understand how to do that.
Did i read this correctly in the comments? That engraving only took 5 min to do? Thats good i think. I'm looking to get something to replace my basic glowforge.
Correct, all depends on size and detail. I just did a 40mm by 20mm logo on a cup with my P2 and it took 2 minutes and 30 seconds.
Oh wow, this is great!! So I am in my first couple days of owning my very first laser, the xTool P2. This is perfect. The only question is what are you measuring for the distance where you got 14mm? thank you in advance for any help.
I just watched your engraving on the Ukulele and you mentioned it there. thank you.
Sorry for the delay. Have fun!
My RA2 is spinning before the engraving starts all the way to the other side and then will start engraving. Any idea what it could be? Any help would be greatly appreciated
The distance of 14mm is from what to what and how did you determine this distance?
I been wondering the same thing.
I believe I had previously let the machine do an automatic measurement and it came up with that number. Then I just re-used it on the next tumbler. Hope that helps.
@@LastLegWoodworksThank you!
@@LastLegWoodworks I see, Thank you!
Awesome video, I'm new to my P2 and learning every time I use it.. I learned a lot with your video but still have a question... the measurement of the DISTANCE ?!?! How did you do it?😅
On this project I used the automatic distance measurement that the P2 designated. It uses the red laser pointer to measure distance to the work surface.
If I’m doing glass and I don’t want to mask it, I can’t use automatic measurement, so what does this distance refer to? I’m guessing it refers to height above the top of the slats (when fitted). Maybe a future enhancement but shouldn’t the auto measure feature work the highest point for itself, given an approximate starting rectangle?
When doing a longer name on the Tumbler, do you continue reducing by the .8mm or is there a stopping point?
Hello, If the entire part of the tumbler that will be engraved is tapered then yes. If the taper were to stop before the end of your engraving then the letters wouldn’t need to be changed after that point. Hope that helps.
Is this the same Ra2 Pro, that is used on the M1?
Yes. same one, just a different cable.
question I do my tumblers using the rollers. in the xtool software you have to put the laser on the highest point of the cup. Then in the software you have to place the green line in the center as well. This making you line up the design to the edge of the green line in the software. If I want to line up to an existing logo on the cup this makes it not very easy. Am I doing something wrong. Due to not lining up to center of the design this makes it hard to do.
Right. I know what you mean. I've had to use some trial and error a bit on some projects to get things exactly where I want them. I hope xTool changes that process.
Does it come with an adapter for the p2
It doesn’t come with it but I believe xtool will send you a cable for the rotary tool if you contact the company.
My RA2 pro doesn't have the aviator connection for the P2. Do you mind doing a conductance check and posting the pinout that the cable has? I have some aviator connectors and some stepper wires and can make my own, but rather not trial and error my connection.
Sure! no problem. I can do it today.
Try this link. Note the orientation of the rectangular plug with the two tabs, and the round plug with the indentation at the bottom. Also the rectangular plug only uses 4 of the 6 spaces. Hope this helps!
www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rdd3yx8u4kci12c39ifs7/R2pinout.jpg?rlkey=qodrr3nlapau9rxeui2wj8o2x&dl=0
@@LastLegWoodworks Awesome, Thanks so much. Will save me so much time.
the rotary tool fits in without the riser?
Just measured it on my own P2... This works without a riser base but is limited to the smallest diameter (A) roller setting. You cannot use the chuck or any other RA2 accessories. To do this, remove enough slats to place the roller base in the tray, which puts the top of the rollers at about the same height as the slats. This lets you engrave round items (pencils, pens, dowels) up to about an inch in diameter.
Mine keeps saying element out of processing area. Any ideas?
How long it took to complete the engraving?
I think about 20 minutes.
@LastLegWoodworks omg if someone orders 30 Tumblers, it would take 10 hrs.. plus all the extra work can be 15 hrs. It is a lot, have you used the XTOOL F1? Seems to be faster. Good video.
@@gustavobaeza3890I’ve got the F1 also, but haven’t tried it yet with the rotary. That this is crazy fast
I have the F1 and do a lot of tumblers. This seems faster especially with that clean of a result. @gustavobaeza3890
Why didn't you use the curve feature?
I'm not sure that works with the rotary attachment
So how do you calculate the reduction for letters? cause cups come in different. Thanks in advance
Well I found out by making the mistake of not making any adjustments for my first one. I noticed the letters gradually changed as they travelled up the tumbler. I just measured the difference between the first letter and the last letter and divided that amount between the total number of letters. I’m sure there is some mathematical way that is beyond me to figure that out, but I did it the hard way😊
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So 20 tumblers, 20 different names, you have to adjust letters of every name. Nah
The only time I’ve ever adjusted was for circular shapes, never had an issue or complaints about “misshapen” letters. Agree, this is a miss by the UA-camr
Only if the letters are in the vertical orientation. If you have them below the design it's not a concern.
Its not a circular shape that causes the issue, its the conical shape of the tumbler. With the letters running along the length of a tapered tumbler. (as in this video) You tell the rotary tool what the circumference of your tumbler is, but its only that circumference at one spot. Along the taper it changes. So if you want say, 14mm tall letters, the rotary tool is rotating a certain amount to result in that 14mm letter. But if the circumference is larger than the measurement that you entered, then more surface area will pass under the laser tip, causing the resulting letter to be taller, and if its smaller, then less will pass under resulting in a shorter letter.
I didnt realize this until I had engraved a tumbler with all the letters at the same height and the letters gradually got larger as the moved up the taper on the tumbler.
why are people so bloody lazy. Having to do it with an engraving tool would kill you....
15:05 for anyone watching, make sure your image doesn't go over that green line (into the shaded area). or the software will tell you " out of processing area" i had to find that out the hard way. i had my line at the highest point and had the image splitting that line, thinking the rotary would spin.... doesn't quite work that way. lol