UK farming 'on its knees' as supermarkets are urged to show fairness
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- Опубліковано 27 гру 2023
- Parliament will debate a petition in January calling for tougher laws to ensure supermarkets act fairly when buying produce from British farmers - with claims the industry is “on its knees.”
The Get Fair About Farming campaign has received more than 100,000 signatures as Sky's Dan Whitehead explains.
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Farmers need to unite across the country and open their own supermarkets like an old school cooperative and cut out the greedy supermarkets. And only supply to private butchers and green grocers again. They would get better profits as well while still keeping food cheaper.
That might help them but it would further class division like nothing else. And require stay at home wives to visit all the shops taking hours and hours.
It'll help greatly. But the problem is taxes as taxes slapped on them
I think the farmers have the power and need to take it back. That's said the supermarkets are ruthless and will import produce from the lowest bidder. I know the supermarkets were selling UK produced goods at upto 4 x less than it costs to produce just to get customers in the door. Something needs to change here and quickly
@@andy123law Most of Supermarkets will be likes that because it is still under EU regulation's acts
@@hawky2k215what regulations are they that are affecting them please show me ?
60 tons of potatoes chucked away and there are people going hungry. Unbelievable.
I thought that, too. That was a sin.
@@Mr.SLovesTheSacredHeartofJesus what’s a sin is governments that pay farmers to dump food. What is a sin is there being nothing in place for governments to buy these types of food off farmers so farmers don’t lose out and have no choice but to dump food.
Just give them away to the homeless 😂😂😂
Exactly, whilst the farmers and others are sitting around on their tractors doing nothing about it, getting all depressed and angry whilst others are needing food to keep their work and life afloat!? Criminals these farmers and supermarkets are!?
With a food inflation crisis, it is criminal...
Same problem in Norway... The supermarket has way to much power and taking all the profit from the farmer and at the same time driving up the prices for the consumers.
Only thing to stop this is that farmers take control of the retail and sell their own products at a "farmer owned" supermarke. Imports does also have to be regulated to so imported goods does not squeeze out the local produced food.
Well said 👏 👌 👍
Is Norway still in the European Union? 😉
@@pagimaidj No, but we have a trade agreement that basically makes us members.
punishment for brexit.I heard from different resorces that in Norway food is much more expensive than in the UK.The next supermarkets will be collapsing .They don't have Lidl becasue they can't stand such maintenance costs.
@@piotrwojdelko1150 Food is naturally more expensive in a country with higher wages and more cost. Norway does also have a tricky climate to grow food in. However, the problems with supermarkets taking more profit from consumers and farmers are similar in the UK and Norway.
Same thing happened in Australia. Supermarkets make sure the farmers are in constant pain . Farmers take the most risk, put up with floods and drought weeds and pests and the supermarkets take all the credit for the lowering the price. They can only do that by screwing over the farmers
And yet, somehow the average Aussie farmer is bloody rich. Weird how that works.
My grandfather says a dairy farmer told him the big supermarkets are the worst. Of all supermarkets, lidl and aldi are most likely to pay up on time and pay a bit more than Tesco, Sainsbury's and Asda etc.
Like most other products, it's greed at the top for more profit and bigger bonuses.
I’ve seen this first hand. A farmer grew a beautiful field of wonderful tomatoes with the local supermarket agreeing to buy his yield. Then, the supermarket said no thanks, and he just basically gave away the entire crop. So sad for the farmer, absolutely reprehensible by the supermarket!
So have the buyer risk a premium next contract or ask a lawyer. No reason to risk that much with no guarantee.
Since when do farmers grow tomatoes in fields ?
I grow my own vegetable been doing this over 10 years 😊
nice!
Well done.
No chemicals I hope 😂
Writing a sentence for ten years? Was it a magic mushroom. That's a long time to be writing a sentence.
@@TaoInitiate mushrooms 🍄 aren't a vegetable stick to watching TV fool 😉
They need to get organised and have their own brokers
I had the very same problem about 10 years ago with a supermarket. I grew a field off potatoes and once I dug them a supermarket buyer came to see them and said they looked good but a shame we no longer want them he then continued to pour blue dye all over them so we couldn’t sell them to anyone else, supermarkets are killing British agriculture, FULL STOP
Pouring blue dye = vandalism and trasspassing now. No one has the right to destroy food on your own land.
that is disgusting. Should have sued him for criminal damage!
Time we the people started a fund which pays the farmers and in return we get produce as opposed to dividends so it becomes a win, win for all. The farmer has certainty of income and people have food security plus the charter set up between the parties could be such that sensible animal welfare, organic/permaculture principles are documented so future generations also benefit. We need to think ahead instead of short term greed and always having to be big in order to survive.
If a buyer tried that in rural America he would probably go missing
Try that with my old paw paw and the supermarket guy would not be making it back to the city.
Return his blue dye to where his sun doesn't shine ...
UK politicians on their knees in front of corporate lobbyists...
Number 10 and parliament are both registered corporation's too
Consumers can act on their own.
Stop blaming someone else.
Exactly and sky gaslighting!!,green agenda is about removing food and farming from the life equation,corrupt wef enabling pocketlining parliament
@@SK-lt1so yea, they can, but most consumers cannot afford to drive an hour a week to their nearest farmers market to buy the stuff.
But by all means, do go on.
Supermarkets just rinsing absolutely everybody….
Except their shareholders.
Guess what ethnicity owns and controls supermarket chains across Europe!Nth America Australia??.(Sth America)......No wonder the mass slaughter in the Middle East is allowed to continue.
I thought British farms were going to be the mainstay of food for the UK after Brexit?
EU are banning 2 chemicals every year, we have to abide by these rules in the current trading agreement, a lot of farmers have had to stop growing certain types of crops as weeds can only be killed with the chemicals in question, so they either shut up shop or change crop, this is now having a knock on effect.
Farmers get about 2p per litre of milk so I was told by my old boss, who ran a family milk farm in Yorkshire on his holidays, this was in 2008.
If anything Brexit has made us way more reliant on the EU and the wider world, including the U.S when that trade deal will get done.
Supermarkets
@@RocketRentonso Brexit not the great thing it was going to be united we are stronger divided we are weaker and Great Britan is not special
@@stephenholmes1036 True these Supermarkets what isn't British will increased the prices and the taxes. Because it is still under EU regulations and Uk isn't an EU members which would then increased the interest fees and taxes which explains why Prices are going skyrocketing! Pm need to sort this fast by shutting down all EU regulations company in the UK to saved UK otherwise it'll be drained and be collapsed by the bankruptcy. There is 2 ways to solved this. 1. If EU would let UK re-join the EU members it'll settle the problem but not good as before. O r 2. Shut down all EU regulation's companies and replace it with UK regulations 🤷♂
@MixesPWLSAW don't lie, we choose to abide by them so we can sell our goods to the eu.
If they want to ban chemicals that's their choice, don't get upset just because they don't want to buy chemical infused food from other countries
All this while Rishi & friends get even richer.
There isn't much on the shelves in my supermarket most days.
Agriculture and farmers are the backbone of food supply
Exactly ❤
Gove says to just import when the backbone stupidly voted for Brexit
What we really need is locally owned farmer's markets and online platforms that can connect buyers with farmers. Including restaurants!
All farms should have their own shops at the farm ...then all the locals can go straight to them .... and cut out the terrible supermarkets
AND WHAT ABOUT THE 95% OF FARMS, WHICH HAVE NO POPULATION, LIVING NEAR THEM..??
This world is a ticking time bomb. Profiteering has ruiened society as we knew it. I feel sorry for the future generations.
True never seen so much greed and deception I worry for my grandchildren 😮
@@noelfleming3567 Your grandchildren will be on the dole in a council flat like previous generations of your family
yep...but as long as people keep worshipping material wealth nothings gonna change, we've had a party in power in the UK for the last 14 years who have literally made everything worse than they found it, yet there are still MILLIONS who'll spend their last breath defending then and keeping on voting them in. Shame...but as a country and also a world, we're in real trouble due to insatiable greed, cannot see it reversing now. The selfishness of the 80's still continues to plague us and bring the people of earth closer to the brink
your generation will see the end, the end will come in the late 30s
If the farmers sell their product cheaper and directly to us they will make a profit and we will save a fortune.
The supermarkets are the one who make the most out of all of us, we need to cut the middle man to be happier.
I already done that with my local butcher. I stopped buying low quality meat from the supermarket and found a great local butcher.
Supermarkets are a nightmare. They are a corrupt monopoly... Cartel even.
I would support independents more if they made it easier to buy from them.
No private sellers are even worse, see it every day. Supermarkets don't hide what they do, and that's very good for us all, I buy things there I'm sure the things go properly.
I feel sorry for our farmers , treated unfairly by the supermarkets while they hike the prices , claim there's going to be a shortage then import it, basically a middle finger to our farmers , bring back local markets on a large scale again! The supermarkets have too much power!
👍🇮🇪
Farmers get tens of billions in taxpayer hand outs and drive brand new range rovers.
We need to give less to farmers, they voted us out of the EU that supported their business, why should we pay for their choices?
Don't be, there filthy rich.
@@xaiano794 I did not realise , tell me.......why do they get billions in hand outs?
@@justinthomas6942 Who knows, multi millionaire farm owners like Jeremy Clarkson get 6-figure sums each year.
60 tonnes? Supermarkets should be forced to honour the contracts. There is supposed to be a supermarket regulator yet not one supermarket has ever been fined for their treatment of farmers and growers.
Not one supermarket has even been fined for excess packaging despite there being laws against it.
The government, supermarkets and regulators are all corrupt.
Correct
Farmers can sell directly to the consumer if they unite.
And the Brexit benefits just keep on coming. 👏🏾
Nothing to do with Brexit. Its all part of the WEF plan for control.
Brexit Britain, farmers were warned that Brexit would destroy British farming.
I've got a cold boo hoo ,it's all because of BREXIT...f@#k off knob😊😊😊
They knew what they were voting for... even though the farmers union warned them they were being lied too!
Greed😞
Farmers union didn't warn of anything the nfu is corrupt with many members leaving
If they dont sell to supermarkets then who do they sell to? Why the hell cant I find a decent local greengrocer and have to travel 20 miles to find one? I live in a busy village, yet the only options available to me are supermarket chains.
WW2 taught us many lessons but not to be self sufficent it seems.
not allowed to be self sufficient in class system britain
Remember allotments?
@@BIASED_UA-cam Britain has never been self suffiant in food, name a time when it has.
Listen geniuses being self sufficient requires the correct climate and land as well as the workforce so it’s not as simple as saying we should have learned a lesson it’s simply not doable on this island of consumers. Despite all experts warnings UK farmers voted for a fantasy that is almost impossible to achieve so now everyone has to pay the hefty price.
@@Simplemankindnot all farmers Einstein, a smart guy would have known that
“Throw out the potatoes the supermarket cancelled..”? Ahem .. potatoes can last all winter if stored correctly. All he had to do was find another buyer. It’s not like it was lettuce or strawberries that have a short shelf life. While I understand the larger issue, using the potato farmer as an example was a bad idea for the story. I used to work for a major supermarket and delisting is frustrating for the customer and employees. Whether this affected local suppliers because of lack of communication where I live I don’t know. We were never told why, you’d just go to put your order into the system and it wouldn’t be available.
Clarkson isn't going to like this one bit.
Clarkson should go on a diet and stop eating everything on his farm soon he will not be able to fit in the sports tractor .
@@dellboy4375 Clarkson could've ate those 60 tons of potatoes
I think the problem sometimes may lie in miscommuncations between the supermarkets and the farmers due to the practice of middlemen such as those in the packaging business. It is similar to the situation where landlords and tenants both suffer when real estate agents are trying to place their interest as the first priority. Better laws should be in place to prevent the prevalence of such a situation. The government should support local farmers as it is important for a country to be able to achieve self-sufficiency in food production.
It’s not just farming the whole of Britain is on a race to the bottom and it’s not just Brexit…
Sly news will brush this under the carpet tomorrow to be forgotten, again!
Supermarkets have far too much control in the UK. Time for this power balance to be changed.
Supermarkets should have to provide 60% of British goods across all ranges.
100% of goods should be British
@@dogtails7614 Even grapefruit and pineapples?
@@Mr.SLovesTheSacredHeartofJesuswhen I was growing up we only ate seasonal food and it never did me any harm , we're all obsessed with fruits and exotic foods all the year round 😊😊😊
@@Mr.SLovesTheSacredHeartofJesusthinking was never a nationalist strong point
100% British champagne and halloumi
Good thing we're part of a common market where we can sell to stores just across the channel to compete....
Oh wait...
Farmers need to cut retail out and sell directly to customers like we did in the "old days" . Both the farmer and the paying customer is being screwed by the retail/ wholesale middlemen.
It all starts with the consumers. Until they change their buying habits (and they won't), nothing will change.
First they blame EU, now supermarkets? This is what happens after 13 years of tory rule
Much longer than that, nearer to 50yrs,Tory comment so true...
A mixture of goverment pressing for cheap food & clever entrapment of the Farmers in the name of greater efficiensy, to spend borrowed money with no expectation of a real return on capital..
Mean while the supermarkets demand 90-120 days credit on payment on agri goods in the UK...
Effectively they never need money to stock their shelves...
Nothing to do with Brexit,in fact if Brexit had been carried out fully & properly, it would not be so bad....
In the Netherlands a collective of farmers is selling a subscription service for farm fresh products. The consumer gets fresher, higher quality products for less money as the middleman is cut out. The government is never the answer to anything.
Supermarkets absolutely mug farmers off for their produce and it is disgusting. Farmers should stop selling to them.
I bet none of those farm workers were born in the UK, apart from those who own the farm. They are probably still being flown in for 6 - 9 months, staying (squashed) on the farm in a caravan park and charged enough for accommodation that they are effectively on £10 a day.
Farmers Markets. Huge ones that cover all food groups Farmers and Fishers in the UK grow or harvest. A Farmer Investment group could build Farmers Market co-op projects across the country and complete directly with the supermarkets. They may even be able to lobby govt to sell them proper nice crown land sites for a few Farmers Markets projects.
we need to keep our farms we must buy british
To need our keeps we must farm British.
Things cant go on like this.
Through out potatoes with thousands of people starving in Britain? Why not donate?
I worked at a Morrison’s for 2. Days only , on the introduction they said that this supermarket was running at 25% through out , wastage due to dates .
Wanted to reduce to 15%
Incredible waste of produce and money.
If given away it will devalue the on shelf products.
This must stop
had they been in eu, this wouldnt have happenned as the eu has strong laws that protect small farmers and consumers such as strong food regulations and protection standards.
Personally I blame the British public, consumer who basically think food should be free & the media going on about a cost of living crisis food is still very cheap compared to the 1950s & 60s, I will believe there is a cost of living crisis when all the nail bars & tattooists shops have had to shut down!!!!
There is already a large export of fish going to japan that would have gone to the EU and even more next year when the French Quota get smaller .
and how is that going to help farmers, can they plant herrings?
@@edwardbernthal160 Dump The Farmers Union and start a co- operative Union Thin fix the wholesale prices then pay MP to look after your interest just like any other business.
SMALLER BY 1/2 %
The UK has an obesity crises. Why ? Because supermarkets prefer to sell ultra processed food with almost indefinite shelf life.
Fairness, I would argue respect the supermarkets wouldn’t have a product to sell if farmers weren’t around.
Where's all the Brexit crusaders? I thought Brexit was going to save British farmers
Contractual fairness is a reasonable expectation for any individual or business no matter which sector its in, and lord knows employment contracts in the UK heavily favor employers (since they write them) but unfortunately farmers cannot force a supermarket to buy their produce, just as a supermarket cannot force farmers to sell them their produce, this equally applies to price and works both ways.
Contract laws are standard to English law. That said, near the end, they also mentioned the idea that a lot of these farms utilize a middle-man as part of their distribution/sales process. This makes me wonder if there are even contracts in these types of cases. Contracts are easily drafted, finalized, signed, and enforced through the legal system.
@@stevennguyen4993 This would indicate that the middleman is legally responsible to both the supermarket and the supplier and perhaps, but not necessarily, the source of the perceived unfairness.
Same problems in Australia and we effectively have a duopoly. Our government aren't motivated to do anything. Your farmers need to try and band together and offer their produce at better prices than the supermarkets in some sort of direct to consumer program and/or local green grocers..
Just like the spud shed over here in WA.
Support British 🇬🇧 Farmers!!! 🚜🧑🏼🌾👩🏼🌾
Same in Australia
"Please, supermarket, spend extra money on our products. Just make the rest of the country pay more for their food!"
Remember voting for Brexit, farmers? Guess your chickens are coming home to roost.
Why are the government paying farmers the same money to grow grass not crops?
The problem arises that if farmers get their way the supermarket will just push the costs onto customers.
With the supermarkets achieving record profits and giving out bonuses to ceo's and shareholders. We need to both make it fairer for farmers whilst trying to stop supermarkets from taking more money off the public. Yes I acknowledge that supermarkets are important and vital to our country but so are our farmers and without them we'd be even more worse off.
Wasnt the puppy deployed to become altair to knee me in the ribs to cover the shingles 😭
We don’t give a toss if a carrot is straight or a spud is a funny shape we just want British veg
Brexit was supposed to be about backing Britain. Rees-Mogg is already advocating cheap foreign imports and the Brexit deals with Australasia have sealed UK farmers’ fates.
Brexit was dumb. Farmers were even dumber.
Only thing needs throwing out is government
Contract laws are standard to English law. That said, near the end, they also mentioned the idea that a lot of these farms utilize a middle-man as part of their distribution/sales process. This makes me wonder if there are even contracts in these types of cases. Contracts are easily drafted, finalized, signed, and enforced through the legal system.
Shoddy journalism it wouldn’t have been 60 tonnes of potatoes,
60 tonnes is nothing just 4 trailer loads.
I’d say it would have been 6000 tonnes
More support for local people, specially farmers, farmers this is the core of society!
Pretty much a world wide problem
The farmers should band together and open a supermarket
Not only farming on its knees,the whole country is.Sooner there’s an election the better.
Vote reform 😊😊😊
The lockdowns + brexit screwed the economy
And there's a big big problem family farmers could face if labour wins.
If labour wins, they want to get rid of inheritance tax relief for them. So farmers would be forced to pay 40% of the value. And we'll, ain't no way any farmer nowadays affording that so they'd be forced to sell up. And who to? Foreneers because there the only people with money cause government keeps giving it to them lol😂
@@andrewcoxhead6451nah. I'll vote conservative. Life's good, no point changing it
@@IeuanBevan. Why would foreigners buy British farms if there is no money in it ?
(In the U.S.) Question: If the markets aren't buying the food from the farmers, what are people eating?
Farmers and Fishermen getting what they voted for? who would have thought!
My thoughts too.........
This is an issue between UK Farms and UK supermarkets. It's UK internal matter that's got nothing to do with the EU and nothing to do with BREXIT and nothing to do with fishing.
@@andywilliams7323 Were these issues present before Brexit?
@@GCS88They were yes supermarkets and middlemen are not connected to any relationship with any other country it is all business connections within the UK. Not sure how the fishing industry is connected with the farmers getting a fair price and terms dealing with supermarkets. Brexit is blamed for most things by the unintelligent but in fact it has had a limited effect on this country because most of our economy is no longer producing anything only buying things from non EU nations like China and reselling them for a massive profit.
I walked out my job at a major UK supermarket last year. Post pandemic they basically became concentration camps for staff. Absolutely relentless, jst complete profiteering at the expense of everyone most clearly the food producers and customers. They absolutely do have too much power.
i have no idea how they treat staff but many many members of the public do well out of supermarket profits as they share it out with shareholders mostly pension funds for ordinary working people
Typical supermarket ‘Divide and Conquer’ tactics.
If farming was that good, all the supermarkets would be farming themselves.
So why don’t they?
THINK OF THE HOMELESS PEOPLE
BEFORE THROWING AWAY ALL OF THAT FOOD WASTE.
THAT COULD FEED A LOT OF STARVING FAMILY'S.
BRING HAPPINESS AND JOY TO THOSES LESS UNFORTUNATE....
Farmers are in the country,sometimes a long way from the cities. There has to be a distribution system and delivery system set up somehow. It’s a crime to let eatable food be ploughed under. Perhaps a farmers cooperative could be set up
the turkeys voted for Christmas and now they are getting stuffed...don`t see a problem there.
As a British farmer i pray for once parliament will be nice to us and make sure we get fairness in prices
I support the farmers, but I am baffled why land prices are at the highest ever if there is no money in farming, could somebody explain
Didn't see this on the side of a bus did ya?
Farmer's should open their own supermarket, get grip,
Wouldn't it be great to be able to seamlessly sell into a larger market of, say, 27 other countries?
Stores should show fairness to the farness to the farmers. Since that's where we get our food !!
Not surprised, as was in project fear and experts said before we left EU.
What bollocks
It's absolutely nothing to do with the leaving the EU. It's an internal issue between UK farmers and UK supermarkets. It's an issue that has existed before the UK left the EU.
@@andywilliams7323 spot on pal 👌 👍
Farmers voted for cheaper food.
What is the problem then?
They should buy those robots Gove, Mogg, Fartage told them about.
Global Britain
What on earth is this, in any other industry they would be sued for loss of earnings and breach of contract
Should definitely be stricter contracts, should also be strict rules on businesses making huge profits on raw food from farmers. Its a necessity that isn't really something that should be exploited for profit.
Give the damn potatoes to the soup kitchen or food banks for gods sake. Don't throw it away.
Or send them to Ireland? That's a waste of a good soup kitchen.
I’m sure the farmer would if he could, however there are bound to be countless miles of red tape just to give them away.
@@razmot5547”landlords suffering”😂😏😂🤣🤣
I think i speak for the majority when i say we would be happy to pay a little more if we knew FOR A FACT it was going to the pockets of the farmer - not the shareholders of the supermarket.
Well, no wonder they can't make any money they should try standing up they will get far more done
Funny hearing that defense of supermarkets. Are we to believe the person who had to throw away 60 tons of product, or the other guy saying "nah, it's fine."
Farmers are all Millionaires who make a living from land gifted to them because of their lineage.
Not all.
We now know why food is expensive. The supermarkets are greedy.
Farmer are quick to kneel when a supermarket throws them a bone. That's the issue.
We need to support local farms…buy from farm shops and butchers NOT supermarkets
What producers need whether big or small like me need a website where we can join to sell our product online straight to the consumer cutting out the supermarket and getting paid a fair price
Mandy in Devon
We need to find another way. People are going hungry and farmers being controlled. Let someone rise up and get this organised. A different way
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There's no excuse, the supermarkets know exactly what their pressures do to individual farmers. It will not end without market pressure back.
Part of the issue might be to force |Buy British" labels on things. We do not want the UK food industry broken, as then we will once again be in the grip of European take over via trade.
We've solved that in the US. They're called futures, adopt them.
Factory farming is absolutely disgusting and needs to stop.