Back in the day when I was young and less experienced, I ignored these because I considered them “distortion” pedals, and I was always after overdrive pedals that just sounded like a mildly driven amp. In the end I was always dissatisfied with the classic overdrives, and I eventually figured out that they didn’t sound anything like a mildly driven amp because of all the EQ shelving they do. Turns out I should have given the Guv’nor a better look after all, because it does sound more amp like than any of those tone knob overdrives ever could.
They are close dialed in, the original is warmer though slightly. The track at the end with the reissue on it's own is killer tone if you ask me. I'd be happy with either one, so why not both.
Difference in sound is more from types of red led diodes than pots. I build replica with swich for diodes and they sound different depending on diode voltage brakedown. After experimenting i settled with a pair of random red leds (high brakedown point, less distortion, less effect) and pair of infrared (mudier, darker, more compression and distortion). The moment you choose your settings and start plaing, you dont care for small differences.
Okay, so there's a few comments about the two sounding different. I want to point out two things, the first being that components age, especially capacitors. Aging caps will impact the sound of a piece of gear, there have been plenty of instances where people have felt like an amp or pedal didn't sound as good after a cap job. The second thing would be tolerances - many electronic components have tolerances of 10%, and when you vary the values across an entire circuit, you will almost certainly encounter discrepancies. If you really wanted to do this right, you would do a cap job on the old pedal, and measure out each component in each pedal to get their values as close as possible.
I bought one pre covid for like $85. It’s a first run for sure, serial 001278. I didn’t need it at the time but now it’s my only drive on a 4 pedal, pedal board.
Shoppinglist updated :) Had plans to get the Duke of tone and Timmy, but these reissues are all on my list. I am a huge Gary Moore fan and am looking forward to hearing them with my Les Paul and Music Man guitars.
Back in '88, one of our Reps wandered into the music store at closing on a Saturday night claiming The Guv'nor was a Marshall in a pedal. We all thought the same thing: plug it into a Roland JC120 and PROVE IT. Well... we shit our pants like the rest of the rock world! Son-of-a-bitch, the rep was right.
The raw sound of the Guv'nor effect is cool during the first part of the video, but I'm wondering what the setup is that you have at the end of the video where the sound is godly. What kind(s) of amp(s) and effects (like the reverb, etc.) are you using to get that awesome sound? Also, are you playing in stereo? Thanks.
The reissue is a little brighter at times, expected with newer components, but it's got a treble knob so no worries there. I wouldn't have any complaints about having either one. You're killing it with that LP tone, Chris! High E is the only top wrapped string. 🧐🤠
That’s a good observation mate! Agreed, you can’t go wrong with either! Thank you so much for that. I think these are just Ernie Ball standard 10s on the LP 🤗🎸
It can also just be down to the different component values between two different examples; though higher parts tolerances means modern day examples should be more consistent.
Maybe a coincidence but I'm in the process of installing my old Gov'n into my pedal board. I never used it enough but I'm definitely going to give it a go.
I've been using an original 1988 Guv'nor since new and it's still going strong (only had a few jack sockets replaced). I did have a Korean one a while back but it was absolutely nowhere near as good as the original. Think I'll buy the re-issue to give my original a break!
Thanks to you, I scored an Original #Marshall #TheGuvNor from #EdinburgScotland on #Reverb. Now that the #MarshallReissuePedals are out the #VintageMarshallPedal prices will #skyrocket. Hard to find in the US, so you have to look in the UK/EU. These #Marshall pedals were released for only a few years in the late 1980s into the 1990s, so most players never heard of them.
great vid .. yeah i would love to understand how the effects loops works in a pedal !!!!! if possible ... to me it seems that the "older" has more clarity, more defination .... sound ... 1 question .... would you believe that from all these new "re-editions" ... this one is the pedal that could take me closer to the GUNS N ROSES, Slash's sound ????? thanks sooo much Keep on Rockin' Greetings from Portugal
Great demo. Marshall nailed it here, I agree with your observations but it's close enough. Take my money tbh & my mate has an original so we can do our own shootout.
That Les Paul sounds pretty awesome. Good one that. Can definitely hear that Gary Moore and even Slash tones. Reissue definitely sounds brighter than the vintage. It's almost a germanium v silicon test.
Man.........I have to got me that thing. I have a strat and I've always felt like there is a little something missing that I can't get from my rig to get that 1990-91 Gary Moore tone (other than the fact that I am not Gary Moore of Corse).............IT SEEMS TO BE THERE. Funny thing is that I didn't know that Gary Used it. But now days it seems like written in stone that he did. Funny how if you seek you find.🤔
They both sound equally horrible solo but better in the band context. Seems like the band setting needed the mids way up and treble rolled down to curb the harshness in the top end. Was the amp itself turned up at all like with a real band? Not sure I consider a backing track a band, more like “it sounds like this in a mix”. But I’m old school and expected to be seeing a band in the room like Lance Keltner does. There is definitely some nice feeling nostalgia about this pedal but I just feel like there’s so many pedals that have surpassed it, for the same price, or less, that I would look at those before getting one of these. I definitely see a Gary Moore blues freak being all over this though, to put it in front of blues breaker or SLO clean/crunch channel.
Like any pedal, one needs to tweek it to suit the guitar and its pickups and one's finger vibrato and picking style, is that doesn't work for you, then sell it.
they are retailing for $250 !? They are trying to price gouge , heh ? I'll wait till they can't move them and hopefully price drop. They are counting on income tax return season in the US lol . I bought my OG Guv for $200 . It's a great pedal but not $250 great . After taxes here in the US it's going to be a $270+ OD pedal ........There are so many great OD pedals under $200 . I was willing to buy one if the price point was $150 , hell I would have bought 2 . Maybe the ShedM or BluesB .
Firstly, they both sound like shit. I'm a big Marshall fan and also a Gary Moore fan, so I can't understand why Marshall made them and I can't understand Moore using them, but then Moore also used an Ibanez TS-10, another bland sounding pedal! But he was a great player, so he'd make ANY pedal sound good! You don't mention where these are made? As the originals were made in the U.K but when they didn't sell as many as Marshall thought they would back then, they shifted production to Korea, until they were finally withdrawn altogether due to low demand at the time. I agree with others, this is just a money grab by Marshall who have witnessed the original pedals going for inflated prices, so this is Marshall getting in on a slice of that vintage market. IF they truly wanted to make a better offering, they would have made it smaller, as it's a dumb and unnecessary size AND they would have addressed the God awful battery-door goof that was always a complete pain! Thumbs down all-round, but I liked your playing.
Back in the day when I was young and less experienced, I ignored these because I considered them “distortion” pedals, and I was always after overdrive pedals that just sounded like a mildly driven amp. In the end I was always dissatisfied with the classic overdrives, and I eventually figured out that they didn’t sound anything like a mildly driven amp because of all the EQ shelving they do. Turns out I should have given the Guv’nor a better look after all, because it does sound more amp like than any of those tone knob overdrives ever could.
This is my favorite overdrive pedal sound, hands down.
I dug the track at the end, definitely sounded awesome. You’re right, about the reissue having more output.
They are close dialed in, the original is warmer though slightly. The track at the end with the reissue on it's own is killer tone if you ask me. I'd be happy with either one, so why not both.
Great observation, and thank you so much for the nice comment
Difference in sound is more from types of red led diodes than pots. I build replica with swich for diodes and they sound different depending on diode voltage brakedown. After experimenting i settled with a pair of random red leds (high brakedown point, less distortion, less effect) and pair of infrared (mudier, darker, more compression and distortion). The moment you choose your settings and start plaing, you dont care for small differences.
Reviewers always say what the companies market at sounds like slash and gary moore but its your style of playing that gives you your sound.
Just bought the New Blues Breaker from Sweetwater Sound here in the States. Came to $269 USD. Cheers from Salem, Ohio US.
Okay, so there's a few comments about the two sounding different. I want to point out two things, the first being that components age, especially capacitors. Aging caps will impact the sound of a piece of gear, there have been plenty of instances where people have felt like an amp or pedal didn't sound as good after a cap job. The second thing would be tolerances - many electronic components have tolerances of 10%, and when you vary the values across an entire circuit, you will almost certainly encounter discrepancies.
If you really wanted to do this right, you would do a cap job on the old pedal, and measure out each component in each pedal to get their values as close as possible.
I bought one pre covid for like $85. It’s a first run for sure, serial 001278. I didn’t need it at the time but now it’s my only drive on a 4 pedal, pedal board.
Killin it in your last jam man well done and thanks
Love those chord changes & that authoritative tone
Thank you very much mate!!
Looks like they are officially released here in the USA, I preordered one from Sweetwater today! 😃
Wooo! That’s amazing mate. Happy new Pedal Day! 🔥🎸Ⓜ️
@@PedalPawn Thanks, great demo by the way 😉🎸
@@marksguitars5617 thank you mate, I really appreciate that
@@PedalPawn when it shows up I am going to run my Pedal Pawn Fuzz in front see what happens
I agree. That guitar is elegant in black, incidentally.
Shoppinglist updated :) Had plans to get the Duke of tone and Timmy, but these reissues are all on my list. I am a huge Gary Moore fan and am looking forward to hearing them with my Les Paul and Music Man guitars.
Back in '88, one of our Reps wandered into the music store at closing on a Saturday night claiming The Guv'nor was a Marshall in a pedal. We all thought the same thing: plug it into a Roland JC120 and PROVE IT.
Well... we shit our pants like the rest of the rock world! Son-of-a-bitch, the rep was right.
Great demo - righteous Paul too - 🤜🏻💥🤛🏻
Great video. I would like to see a video on the effects loop. My pedal just shipped today :)
What amp are you using for this demo? Thanks
The raw sound of the Guv'nor effect is cool during the first part of the video, but I'm wondering what the setup is that you have at the end of the video where the sound is godly. What kind(s) of amp(s) and effects (like the reverb, etc.) are you using to get that awesome sound? Also, are you playing in stereo? Thanks.
The reissue is a little brighter at times, expected with newer components, but it's got a treble knob so no worries there. I wouldn't have any complaints about having either one. You're killing it with that LP tone, Chris! High E is the only top wrapped string. 🧐🤠
That’s a good observation mate! Agreed, you can’t go wrong with either! Thank you so much for that. I think these are just Ernie Ball standard 10s on the LP 🤗🎸
It can also just be down to the different component values between two different examples; though higher parts tolerances means modern day examples should be more consistent.
How much are these going to be ?
Thanks for the mini-concert
Maybe a coincidence but I'm in the process of installing my old Gov'n into my pedal board. I never used it enough but I'm definitely going to give it a go.
I even never used it, so now is the time.
I've been using an original 1988 Guv'nor since new and it's still going strong (only had a few jack sockets replaced). I did have a Korean one a while back but it was absolutely nowhere near as good as the original. Think I'll buy the re-issue to give my original a break!
Great demo. Thanks.
are you saying the reissue isnt out yet? I saw a reissue on craigslist so Im a little confused. Merry Christmas
I have the Guv'nor and the Blues Breaker on pre-order, so excited!
Amazing, congrats on your new purchases 🔥Ⓜ️
@PedalPawn Thank you Pedal Pawn from the USA, keep up the stellar work 🤘
Awesome playing
Fantastic demo and playing mate! 🙌❤️🙌
Thank you so much mate!
@@PedalPawn you are very welcome mate!
Literally just ordered mine..🤘😁🤫🎸
Woooo!! Well done mate, great pedals 🚀🚀Ⓜ️
Great review, not much in it. My vintage is completely dead after 25 years heavy use and deffo gonna get this re issue, thanks for the review
Where did you get those suggested settings?
Awesome Dude
New ones sound a bit more overblown and slightly scratchier, as in solid state transistor sound.
That sounds awesome!
Apparently, the vintage pedals all sounded a little different at the same settings, but yes, tweak them to match.
Sounds great. What pickups are in that LP?
Thank you so much, these are Bill Lawrence pickups from 1989 🎸
Thanks to you, I scored an Original #Marshall #TheGuvNor from #EdinburgScotland on #Reverb.
Now that the #MarshallReissuePedals are out the #VintageMarshallPedal prices will #skyrocket. Hard to find in the US, so you have to look in the UK/EU. These #Marshall pedals were released for only a few years in the late 1980s into the 1990s, so most players never heard of them.
great vid ..
yeah i would love to understand how the effects loops works in a pedal !!!!! if possible ...
to me it seems that the "older" has more clarity, more defination .... sound ...
1 question .... would you believe that from all these new "re-editions" ...
this one is the pedal that could take me closer to the GUNS N ROSES, Slash's sound ?????
thanks sooo much
Keep on Rockin'
Greetings from Portugal
Great demo!
Thank you so much for watching mate
Why did Gary Moore use a pedal simulation of a JCM800 through a JTN45 and not just use a JCM800?
Nice playing.
Great demo. Marshall nailed it here, I agree with your observations but it's close enough. Take my money tbh & my mate has an original so we can do our own shootout.
FX loop demo please
Man you could make anything sound great in your hands!
I might have to get me self one of those pedals coz why not! Haha
Great playing as always!
Thank you so much for that mate, ha ha, yes indeed GAS!!! Ⓜ️🎸
@@PedalPawn No problem 👍
Awesome work on the new videos, man!! Now stack both of those pedals for insane tone!!! 😩
Thank you so much mate and ha ha, totally 🔥🔥Ⓜ️🚀
Another fantastic video have a good weekend also do you like fender or Gibson
Thank you mate, you too! I like both for different applications 🎸
Nice comparison/demo, very cool.
Thanks a lot mate 🔥🎸
The Blues Breaker is RI as well ...?
Damn...Just bought a Nux Queen of Tone...!!!🤣
Humbuckers really eat these pedals up😎👍
😎👍❤🖖
Awesome mate, yes they did indeed 🎸Ⓜ️
The reissue defo brighter but its marginal. Live who is going to notice, plus being brighter possibly will help the mix live.
That Les Paul sounds pretty awesome. Good one that. Can definitely hear that Gary Moore and even Slash tones. Reissue definitely sounds brighter than the vintage. It's almost a germanium v silicon test.
Thanks a lot for the cool comment 🔥🎸
What is the buffer like ? That is the concern
Excellent!
Thanks a lot for watching mate
Man.........I have to got me that thing. I have a strat and I've always felt like there is a little something missing that I can't get from my rig to get that 1990-91 Gary Moore tone (other than the fact that I am not Gary Moore of Corse).............IT SEEMS TO BE THERE. Funny thing is that I didn't know that Gary Used it. But now days it seems like written in stone that he did. Funny how if you seek you find.🤔
They both sound equally horrible solo but better in the band context. Seems like the band setting needed the mids way up and treble rolled down to curb the harshness in the top end. Was the amp itself turned up at all like with a real band? Not sure I consider a backing track a band, more like “it sounds like this in a mix”. But I’m old school and expected to be seeing a band in the room like Lance Keltner does. There is definitely some nice feeling nostalgia about this pedal but I just feel like there’s so many pedals that have surpassed it, for the same price, or less, that I would look at those before getting one of these. I definitely see a Gary Moore blues freak being all over this though, to put it in front of blues breaker or SLO clean/crunch channel.
I heard gary moore in your playing!😃
Like any pedal, one needs to tweek it to suit the guitar and its pickups and one's finger vibrato and picking style, is that doesn't work for you, then sell it.
Original is much smoother, definitely prefer it over the new one. Why didn't you use single coils too ?
Wow if anyone needs proof that a huge amount of tone is in your hands watch this. That intro playing sounded like Chris was playing his strat
Thank you for the comment mate, it’s funny, every time I play another guitar, people still think it sounds like a Strat 🤣🎸🎸
@@PedalPawnit does sound like your playing a strat Chris the notes have that twang you get from a fender.
Nice work Marshall. Sounds good even if you could have used an enclosure half the size. Typical.
👏👏👏
Great playing, great tone. :-)
Im stupid i sold my 93 guvnor wish i hadn't
The reissue is definitely not as warm, and has more presence to my ears.
Nels cline was a fan
Ello Guvnor....haha
So close to not matter
Is the original a "Made in UK" or a "Made in Korea"?
Original 88’-91’ for the first three years is Made in England. About 50-60k.
I have one MIE serial 1278. So an original run. Love it
Need #Marshall #JTM45 and #1959PlexiSLP pedals. #HolyGrail
Doesn't sound like Gary Moore to me. Check his tone here in UA-cam: Gary Moore Pinkpop
I’m lucky to have two og the vintage 😊
Pay’d 40$ for onde og them and someone have me another for free today 😀
If I was a betting man , I'd say they'll be officially revealed at naam
They are out today everywhere Ⓜ️🔥🚀
I see that now . Good thing I'm not a betting man 🤣
@@jque35ify I didn’t want to say that but 🤣🤣🙌
Ao ouvido humano, são idênticos
they are retailing for $250 !? They are trying to price gouge , heh ? I'll wait till they can't move them and hopefully price drop. They are counting on income tax return season in the US lol . I bought my OG Guv for $200 . It's a great pedal but not $250 great . After taxes here in the US it's going to be a $270+ OD pedal ........There are so many great OD pedals under $200 . I was willing to buy one if the price point was $150 , hell I would have bought 2 . Maybe the ShedM or BluesB .
The new one sounds way worse. Super bright- at least I’m the setting in the video. That’s a bummer.
They even replicated stupid the battery lid and compartment, go figure!!
It's obvious, the old one sounds better.
That’s not an original guvnor. The original has a bigger switch and also a bigger casing overall.❤
Also, the battery is dying in the vintage one.
Так нелогично эксперименты проводить. Надо брать тип звука - допустим чистый и сравнивать сначала одно, потом другое. Так ничего не понятно.
Overpriced
Yes, but they are here!
Firstly, they both sound like shit. I'm a big Marshall fan and also a Gary Moore fan, so I can't understand why Marshall made them and I can't understand Moore using them, but then Moore also used an Ibanez TS-10, another bland sounding pedal! But he was a great player, so he'd make ANY pedal sound good! You don't mention where these are made? As the originals were made in the U.K but when they didn't sell as many as Marshall thought they would back then, they shifted production to Korea, until they were finally withdrawn altogether due to low demand at the time. I agree with others, this is just a money grab by Marshall who have witnessed the original pedals going for inflated prices, so this is Marshall getting in on a slice of that vintage market. IF they truly wanted to make a better offering, they would have made it smaller, as it's a dumb and unnecessary size AND they would have addressed the God awful battery-door goof that was always a complete pain! Thumbs down all-round, but I liked your playing.
that amp sounds terroble heh
Both sound the same. Meh
Total money grab, I will never buy another Marshall product.