Me and my nephew volunteered for several weeks moving Forney Museum to its present location decades ago and even got a twin engine aircraft out a large do with one of its wings still attached. Indeed we loaded wax figures, pulled horse drawn carriages by hand, and even got it smallest live steamer locomotive onto a waiting trailer. I felt responsible for the 4005 because of a letter to editor I wrote was published just after the move was announced and said the Big Boy was likely to face a cutting torch because at 500 tons no road/automotive bridge across the Platte could bear its weight. Indeed it was originally to be cut into thirds and hauled on trailers but the plans were changed after word got out that 4005 might have to be chopped up to do so. Big Boy lead a unique collection of rail equipment on temporary tracks that hopscotched its way beside the river being tugged along by a traction engine till it reached existing tracks and a bridge to cross the river. It was my favorite destination growing up in Denver and even when I was taller than its driving wheels it lost none of its fascination in my imagination.
UP Big Boy # 4005 is a great steam locomotive. Especially the other UP Big Boy steam locomotives, including UP 4014, which is going to be running again. Also I went and took pictures and only two videos at the American history museum in the capital city of USA. Washington D.C. I went to that museum were there are mostly automobiles, and five trains. Two trolleys and three steam locomotives.
Wanna get back to DC. Just got off the phone with Ed in Cheyenne Wyoming. Big Boy is soooo close. But they aren’t telling anyone anything. Top secret. But hits the high iron in 3 weeks.
Never have been to Fourney since they relocated. Last time I was there it was located over by Elitches. At that location 4005 was outside and in time the elements were really taking a toll on the poor thing. Still, nothing beats seeing one running!!! Saw 4014 a few years back. The ground was shaking even before it was in sight!
Glad to see you guys enjoyed the Forney Museum. If I remember correctly, the cars at the museum (or at least some of them) are actually the collections of other people that get featured at the museum so the same thing isn't always there.
Yup!!! And the model cars all belong to one guy. And he comes in every 6 weeks or so and changes it. He has like 1000 cars and can only show about 200 at a time. Great rare models. Show in 2 weeks.
I had never been. I had seen it in its old location, but never went inside. I had seen the Big Boy through the fence. They had painted the running gear red.. RED??? Like a German loco. Just weird. But now that we've been INSIDE... It's really great!
Thanks for showing this. All the times I was thru Denver I'd not made the time to visit the Forney. Then the museum was in the old Denver Tramway power house next to I-25.Thx againIGN
That was their old location. I visited it when I was high school age back in the 70's. The Big Boy was out back by the South Platte river. It was cramped with aisles so narrow just one person could fit in places. There were cob webs and it was very dusty. It felt like a hordes four or five story building. So it is amazing what it look like now. Pretty amazing!! Thanks for showing us. I would have never recommended anyone visit the old one, but this one looks amazing.
A number of years ago the Forney Museum relocated from its old location to the new one. While moving the Big Boy it derailed on a sharp curve. It took some work to get it back on the track.
I saw them wedge the challenger on a curve in 91. Sharp curve and the tender got stuck. On the rails. But wedged. They hooked a couple of diesel locomotives to it and gently pulled it through the curve. Minor damage to the rails. Wish I’d seen the big boy move!!
A good friend of mine was a cousin of the engineer of 4005, who was killed in the wreck. My friend has several items in his railroad collection that came from the 4005. After the 4005 was moved to the new museum location, he donated some of the items to the museum. One item that I remember that he donated to the museum was the oil can that his late cousin had used on the engine.
Went there last July the same day I saw 844. She was over in the siding and I was next to 4005 when I found out, and I rushed to see her! It was my last day in Colorado for summer BTW. The next day I was about to go in the airplane back to texas, 844 was making her way home!
Every once and a while amazing things happen!! I was driving my car on the 126 in Ventura California when I passed a steam locomotive Steaming at the side of the road. They were testing one of the steam locomotives on the Fillmore and Western. And I got whiplash
VERY GOOD INDEED THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS WITH YOUR SUBSCRIBERS I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH AND YOUR ADVICE AND THANK YOU FOR ALSO SHARING YOUR SCREWING AROUND TIME WITH YOUR SUBSCRIBERS WE ENJOY THE SITES AND DESTINATIONS OF YOY BOTH THANK YOU AGAIN. JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA.
I'm gonna be visiting this museum a week from today with my family. Sure looking forward to it, along with the tourist line I'll be visiting too which I'm looking forward to visiting.
I believe the tubes you pointed out in the fire box are thermic siphons which circulate water from the the fire box water legs to the top of the crown sheet.
Been reading. Weird. They seem to have several purposes. All based on stirring the water. There are some boilers totally backwards this way where all the tubes are filled with water and the vessel is all fire!!! But it ruins the tubes in record time. The water in the tubes is really boiling hard.
if i ever get to a museum that has a Big Boy i guarantee you ill spend of my time just getting lost around the BigBoy cause to me thats what a steam engine is, Big, Powerful, and Alive!
Thanks for your work! I took the liberty to post a link of this episode on a model railroad forum that I subscribe to. I though that you may like to see a comment posted on that thread. "The hosts do a nice job with this. They seem to add a lot of meaningful commentary, unlike some I've watched. The Big Boy was the main attraction for me. Wow, what a bunch of red knobs to keep track of. Running one of those things wasn't for amateurs. As the video moved on to the classic cars, I was struck by how great it was when automobiles had distinctive styling, unlike today when you can't tell one SUV from another. " Please keep up the good work!
When I visited the Forney Museum I got there before 1:00 PM and stayed until closing, and I still did not see everything. I did get to see Big Boy 4005. I also saw Big Boy 4018 at the Museum of the American Railroad in Dallas.
Another lovely video showing an amazing historical aspect of transportation in the USA. Magnificent cars and a very nice Big Boy. You make me envious with your screwing around in that area because as a Dutch Australian international model living in New York City at one time on a superb ski trip in Steamboat Springs Colorado I was so impressed with the awesome beauty of the area that I immediately bought seven acres of land there with the intention to build a log house and enjoy life there but unfortunately the dream never came about. So I live it through your very entertaining videos. Thank you so much. Hello from Oz.
This was 1984. I revisited the place in 1988 and ended up selling it to help finance my three year VW campervan trip from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego. Now that was an amazing experience of screwing around!
Thank you! This a great area. I have been lucky to always live in amazing places. Grew up in Salt Lake City right at the base of Dale Peak, Mt Olympus and Grandeur Peak. With a "ghost town' , abandoned railroad, stream and "swimming hole" in a gully half a mile away. Later went to school in Ogden Utah, also at the base of a mountain, with a hiking trail out the door into "Waterfall Canyon". From there I moved to Paris. NOW that was a shock to the system, but one of the worlds most beautiful cities. Than back to Salt Lake City to a place only a mile from the "old home". Now garagemahal. Then I split my time between that place and several apartments in Hollywood working in TV. Hollywood is... well... Hollywood. But I still had Garagemahal and the mountains to keep me sane. Later full time back in Salt Lake in a new place a block from Garagemahal. Had several great layouts and a perfect view of Mt Olympus. BUT then a big move to St George Utah. Right at the base of cliffs called Kayenta Utah. Two years later, moved to Lake Tahoe on the Nevada side. Geeeeezz. At first on a stream in the trees about a mile from the lake, and later right on the lake. From there work took me to Santa Barbara California. Lived in the hills in Ojai. Santa Barbara is, I think, the most beautiful place in the world. Perfect climate. Only gets hot in the winter, may hit 90. ANYWAY, now back in Utah, met Karyn in Sanpete County south of here where I had the idea to buy a 19th century house and fix it up, like your plan to move to Colorado, never happened. But I don't rule it out. We still have the house and if it doesn't fall down, we may yet fix it and move. BUT I doubt it.
I was wondering if you meant Paris, Idaho up by Bear Lake, until you mentioned Paris being one of the world's most beautiful cities and it occurred to me that you meant Paris, France. Not that Paris, Idaho isn't pretty. It's still one of my favorite places and if it wasn't for their seriously cold winters, I'd actually try to buy one of the houses that my great grandfather built in the town and live there. Loved St. George as a kid when we'd travel through there to get from SoCal to Salt Lake City. I always marveled at those red cliffs and the stone gutters with the crystal clear water running through them. I haven't been there in years and I imagine it has grown quite a lot in population. I love old architecture, but have forever put aside any notion of fixing up an old house again. I bought what had once been an old miner's bunk house in Portola, CA and renovated it as best i could. I spent way too much money on it and never got it to where I wanted it before I left the winters behind for a less snowy climate near Yreka, Ca, where I could see the Yreka Western steam engine #19 go by from my back deck. Sadly, the railroad is now defunct so I no longer have that singular pleasure. It's funny where our lives sometimes take us, isn't it?
Toy Man Television thank you for your detailed response about your life and travels in your area. I think I feel connected. You speak of Hollywood. After spending a couple of years doing the international modelling circuit living in Milan, Zurich, Hamburg and Paris in Europe I met an American model girl and together we decided to live in New York City to work there for a couple of years. During this time I was selected to fly to Salt Lake City to work in the Arches National Park using my then rugged looks for a German Cigarette Campaign called Lets Go West (I still have some pictures on my Lounge Room wall of that shoot). That was a great experience. One of the guys suggested that I try for the international Camel Cigarette Campaign which I did and ended up being one of two guys selected. I was flown twice in First Class to Los Angeles to do the testing in an old abandoned quarry where apparently they shot many Westerns with the Hollywood sign directly in front of me. In 1982 this was more than a million dollar contract. I stayed on Sunset Boulevard next to the Palace where all the celebrity footprints are. I was paid US60000 in those days to say no to other cigarette companies who were interested in using me. I didn't get the campaign but ultimately the dollars from a couple of years of modelling paid for my house which at least I can enjoy close to the beach here in Australia one mile from the Cruise Ship Terminal and next to the Railway Station where our club is building a transition era American layout. I can also therefore emphasise with the Hollywood that you know better than me. Love of trains is one of my major enjoyments at the moment and in addition to my own layout (which you can see on my UA-cam channel Train Lord RUNNING TRAINS ON MY LAYOUT) I also video the cruise ships which come to Port during the summer season. I've enjoyed the chat with you. Cheers from Christiaan in Adelaide South Australia.
I've always been interested in the Transcontinental railroad. Unfortunately, I've never seen steam run through the original Summit tunnels. With all the old movies of these trains, you'd think this would be a great place to film. At 85, with poor eyesight, I'd like to dispose of my old model railroad "stuff". Mostly Hon3. It has no value, but allot of parts that someone might find usefull. I'd gladly ship this "snuff" and you could dispose of it into the right people. God bless and keep em coming OL Ron
Gee, Hon3. Love that stuff too!!! Are you sure no one there want's it? If you really want to, send us an email at dangell@xmission.com. Don't want to put an address on FB. We have walked through the summit tunnel. Amazing to just be there thinking of how and when and by whom it was made. At the center is a vertical shaft. Only about 40 feet down, where the Chinese were lowered down to start digging out from there so they could be working 4 faces at once. But it's like 40 feet down!! Just hard to imagine they would not just "daylight" this into a cut. But back then, with no equipment, cutting down even 40 feet was harder than just building a tunnel.
This was a real treat It's amazing how, as you both went through the collection you noted pieces you both owned or your brother. That makes a place that much better. Thank you for sharing. Greg and Jeanne
Hi guys!! Some fun too. GEEZE!! Someone said the pedal car David wanted is a Gym Dandy Surrey. We found one on eBay!! Hum, that's all we need right? But sure be fun to see David's grand kids on one......
Kinda wish you had shown more of the airplanes. i actually owned and flew an Ercoupe like the one at 0:31, and the swing seat version of the Quicksilver ultralite ( the museum has an MX fixed seat version) at 0:40. Both were a gas to fly. I also have done some carriage restoration work in the past and drive horses, so I loved the glimpses you gave of the carriage collection. Top that off with the locomotives and cool old cars and you have the perfect museum. Neat!
They only have a few planes. Like 3. They may be all in the video? Not sure. Don't know much about planes.... Sept they re FUN!! Did you see the show in the Tri Motor Ford?
Afraid I missed that one. Will try to find it. Your videos are always interesting. I once saw a Ford Tri Motor at a Long Beac,h CA airshow back in the 70's. Neat airplane and certainly distinct with its corrugated sheathing and big ol' radial engines. the wicker seats must have been a trial to sit in for long periods of time, tho'. Heavy looking sucker, too.
I'm going through my list of videos, and I had came across this one and wondered how I had missed it! I use to live in Denver over 20 years ago and I never knew about the Forney museum. This episode was a treat to watch with all of the different modes of transportation on display. Thank you for such a great informative video.
Great Video..... there is ONE very important thing about the 4005 that you did Not mention, and that is.... the 4005 was the only one of the UP 4000 class that was (for a brief time) converted to oil.... which didn't work too well due to insufficient and uneven oil distribution in the firebox, which of course resulted in insufficient and inconsistent boiler pressure. I've never been inside the Fourney Museum, (live in MT.) but Very thankful that they Finally got the 4005 indoors after so many years sitting outside. Love all your videos and Thank you Both for all your great work, I'm a subscriber with notifications. Stay safe in all your travels...... OH!! and PS: that steel "block" with one eye.... is (Very Sadly) a 1955 Chevy.... hopefully it was Not a 2-door Belair with the "continental kit", fender skirts, twin rear-mounted radio antennae, and "fuzzy dice" hanging from the rearview mirror, etc, etc, etc. : (
Belair yes... Sad :-< Let's hope 4 door but even still. Although perhaps if my brother was still with us he could take it on as a restoration. Yes on the oil! Ed feels he has it figured out. Sure hope so!!!! UP will not allow coal on the line ever again. Never mind the problems getting coal into the locomotive every 200 miles. Just dump the load here at the Amtrak depot, I'll go look for a front loader. The Challenger works well but then they always did. The Big Boy has the WEIRDEST (most modern?) boiler ever stuck on a locomotive. The size of that firebox!!!! BUT if Ed says they have it figured out, my bet is they do.
that crushed car was once a 1955 chevy, I own a 1957 210 four door myself. awesome cars, they ride like clouds as they float over pot holes. nice and simple to take care of too, mine has a 235 I6 which is the original engine to boot.
We had no idea. ANd we did not show the model cars!! That will be an upcoming show. But one of the best, er, just the best, collection of model cars we have ever seen!!!
Ahhhh.... The Ole Basement Tour!! It's been my experience that is where the real good stuff is kept! We will definitely put this on our list of places to visit!! :D
Its cool We didnt show the models, yet, follow up show. TOTALLY amazing cars including every Pocher ever made. They can only display less than a third of the models, so they cycle most of them through ever few weeks.
It really is! I nearly flipped when we discovered that little peddle cart, with the red and white striped top... I really wanted one as a kid! How cool would that be to tool around the neighborhood in that!
AND we just found one on Ebay!!! Planning to drive it back from Michigan. On I 80. Hummmmm Or not. Fed Ex? One of the GREAT parts of being a grand parent is you can use that as an excuse to buy toys. Even pedal cars. Hay Mia!! We need you to drive something for a bit!! Hope you are well!! Thanks fer watching.
Right? I don't remember the type exactly. The one in the video is CLOSE. But mine was a 350 like yours. Had the weird angle pipes they said were for "street or trail". I abused in on both. Ended up dumping it several times, and after ending up up side down under it in the mountains, I figured I'd better stick to 4 wheels. Or 3.... Went through that phase too. ANDWAY traded the 350 for a Bole 16mm movie camera. And started filming anything that moved. Still at that.
Enjoyed the Forney Museum. My dad was hauled behind 4005 on a troop train in WW2. He told the story of how the conductor of the train hauled several servicemen up to see the Big Boy. Though my dad grew up in Pocatello, he only had a mild interest back then. Later years he bought one of Max Grey's oreiginal Big Boys because it was 4005. I still have it and I visited the Forney Museum to see the locomotive in person. I only wish they had more space to stand back and really take in the whole locomotive. I didn't see my favorite car in your video... worse thing is, I don't recall what it was. I may have to go back to look at my pictures. BTW was the cube a Nash Metro? Either that or a Borg Scout Ship
Not a nash... HINT. You could drive it to the levy in spite of the levy being dry. Thats a great story about 4005. What a hauler.... That MAx Grey is COOL. Worth bucks too. But more valuable for other reasons.
That ole Big Boy is difficult to take in at a glance.. let alone try and film or photograph. Even the knobs and dials are huge! I suppose the only way to capture it's majestic size, will be to try and video the 4014 coming down the tracks on it's debut voyage... I hope that I am able to capture more than just a gigantic wheel roaring past!
Nope. Just Cheyenne to Ogden. Really designed just for that track!! They ran huge rigid 12 driver locos to the east of Cheyenne. And west of Ogden was the OSL and Salt Lake Los Angeles and San Pedro. And had their own locomotives.
It truly is! I had never heard of it.. and the outside of the building isn't overly impressive. Off the beaten trail, one just might drive on past! But inside tells another tale! Do stop by, if you get to Denver. Quite impressive!
pretty sure the cube was once a chevvy 55 maybe? would break my heart if it was a 57. I loved seeing a Hispano Suzia car. my favorite lady detective Phryne Fisher drives one! Also that little kid's cart thing at the end was cute. What's it called?
Don't recall the "real" name of that peddle car. David called it the "surrey". Does look like one sort of. Looking for one on eBay. No luck so far..... 55??? Yeppers...
While not widely known, the Brave little Toaster had a cousin. Brave Little Blender. When he spoke it was like a Japanese Monster movie. He was always a little out of "sink". His wife, Margareta, was a salty old gal. But good to have around when you needed a laugh.
The cable car did not precede the steam locomotive. All major cities but one had a cable car system before the lines were electrified. If you had said that cable cars were before electric street cars you would be correct. Kansas City had the largest number of companies and lines at one time. Many horse car lines were converted to cable car then converted to electric street car or trolley. The trolley term is the wheel that was in contact with the wire for picking up the power before the slider was invented. Check out the book "Cable Car in America".
In street railways yes. I suppose it depends on what you want to call a cable car. I found one from 1790 used in a Michigan gunpowder mill used to lower the finished gunpowder down to a storage magazine on a river over a mile away. The weight of the loaded cars pulled a string of empties back up to the mill. In this way the power could be shipped out on a boat, and if (when) the magazine blew up the loss was minimal. Not at all sure but I assume cables and ropes were used on railways and rutways going back to the very beginning. Until the static steam engine, all of these would have used gravity, however the same gunpowder mill was powered by water. Some sort of mill wheel or turbine. And I wonder if anyone ever used that to pull carts.
Toyman Jerry Jacobson of the age of Steam Museum 10 to 15 years ago was trying to purchase one of the big boys for restoration and running in Ohio but somehow the deal fell through and if I'm not mistaken I think it was one near or around Texas
One of the big boys changed hands about then. I don’t recall the details but groups have been trying to pull this off for years. But UP is DOING it. Wow. When you really look at it it’s almost not doable. And where can you run it? UP can run it. All over the country. .
Daley, Back in the day $300 was a lot of money. If you had it and went to pull it out to buy a car you might trigger a run on the bank! I'm going to go out o mlm a limb here and say the cubed car was a1955 Chevy Belair. Just a guess. I first thought Edsel or Studebaker but all the Edsel variants had double headlights as did the Studebakers. The latter had some exotic models with single headlights. I could be totally way off base and completely wrong which wouldn't surprise me.
Yup!!! 55 Chevy! First car my brother bought ( when he was 10) cost $15. But you could get a really good driver for $100. I bagged a 63 Fairlane for $25. Brand new Beatle for $1250.
You were right with the Borg ship ( I had a dentist named Borg. Dr. Borg. Great dentist. .....AND he didn't need the head mounted magnifier. Had one built in. Anyway the 56 is Really really close!!!! The signal light is wrong for a 56. Just a bit...
That box looks like a crushed car, why is that car crushed. What happen to all of your brothers cars. Are they still in the family or are they owned by other people now
It depends on load. But with 4014 they sometimes use most of the water in all three tenders in a day. 20,000 gallons in the main and 23,000 in each of the other two. And a day is now about 4 to 5 hours moving. It really eats water and oil. (Coal on this one). I guess a more realistic number would be about 10,000 gallons per hour under load.
4005 was going to be restored but UP decided against it because 4005 derailed on the wye at Hanna when a clueless switchman lined the switch to the wrong track and it plowed into a work train. Because of that derailment 4005 is damaged beyond repair and permanently retired and now rest in the Forney Museum.
HI. While you can see some of the damage, the loco was repaired and returned to service. The tender and cab were totally destroyed , but in general the loco was fine, and went on to work well. BUT because of the scars, and a reminder of the people killed, perhaps not the first choice. AND Forney loves it. Most of the people coming to the Forney are only coming to see 4005. SO if they gave that up would it kill the museum? It could. Even the Pamona guys felt this. If we give up the Big Boy will people still come? In their case, YES. AND UP is letting them be part of the restoration and fund rase. So they will be part of the 4014 group forever. Great fit!
Ah 4005 the first crashed big boy.. oh yes! A big boy has crashed before. I think it was from a switch pointed to a curve during 70 miles? Dunno. Saw a video tho.
It's kinda sad.. I always think about the scene in Monsters Incorporated, where Sully thinks that Boo was turned into a cube.. he swoons and nearly passes out from fright.. Very sad, but then.. Boo is okay. I don't think that they do this to cars anymore.. Just flatten them! Ahhh!!! Okay. Let's just hope they are recycled into new cars and trucks!
Me and my nephew volunteered for several weeks moving Forney Museum to its present location decades ago and even got a twin engine aircraft out a large do with one of its wings still attached. Indeed we loaded wax figures, pulled horse drawn carriages by hand, and even got it smallest live steamer locomotive onto a waiting trailer. I felt responsible for the 4005 because of a letter to editor I wrote was published just after the move was announced and said the Big Boy was likely to face a cutting torch because at 500 tons no road/automotive bridge across the Platte could bear its weight. Indeed it was originally to be cut into thirds and hauled on trailers but the plans were changed after word got out that 4005 might have to be chopped up to do so. Big Boy lead a unique collection of rail equipment on temporary tracks that hopscotched its way beside the river being tugged along by a traction engine till it reached existing tracks and a bridge to cross the river. It was my favorite destination growing up in Denver and even when I was taller than its driving wheels it lost none of its fascination in my imagination.
I went to the original museum in the early 90's while on leave from Germany and the newer about 7 years ago during a Colorado vacation. Great museum
UP Big Boy # 4005 is a great steam locomotive. Especially the other UP Big Boy steam locomotives, including UP 4014, which is going to be running again. Also I went and took pictures and only two videos at the American history museum in the capital city of USA. Washington D.C. I went to that museum were there are mostly automobiles, and five trains. Two trolleys and three steam locomotives.
Wanna get back to DC. Just got off the phone with Ed in Cheyenne Wyoming. Big Boy is soooo close. But they aren’t telling anyone anything. Top secret. But hits the high iron in 3 weeks.
Never have been to Fourney since they relocated. Last time I was there it was located over by Elitches. At that location 4005 was outside and in time the elements were really taking a toll on the poor thing. Still, nothing beats seeing one running!!! Saw 4014 a few years back. The ground was shaking even before it was in sight!
It’s much better here.
Glad to see you guys enjoyed the Forney Museum. If I remember correctly, the cars at the museum (or at least some of them) are actually the collections of other people that get featured at the museum so the same thing isn't always there.
Yup!!! And the model cars all belong to one guy. And he comes in every 6 weeks or so and changes it. He has like 1000 cars and can only show about 200 at a time. Great rare models. Show in 2 weeks.
I love the Big Boy too! Theyr'e my favorite locomotives too.
Massive beauty. Perfect proportions
I managed to visit the Forney Museum when I was in Denver in 2014. It truly is a great place for gearheads.
I had never been. I had seen it in its old location, but never went inside. I had seen the Big Boy through the fence. They had painted the running gear red.. RED??? Like a German loco. Just weird. But now that we've been INSIDE... It's really great!
Thanks for showing this. All the times I was thru Denver I'd not made the time to visit the Forney. Then the museum was in the old Denver Tramway power house next to I-25.Thx againIGN
I never knew that it was there... Never even heard of it. I felt like we just discovered gold! What a wonderful place!
Yup. Went there last year toe find its now a climbing gym! Wondered what happened to the Forney, but we found it!!!!
That was their old location. I visited it when I was high school age back in the 70's. The Big Boy was out back by the South Platte river. It was cramped with aisles so narrow just one person could fit in places. There were cob webs and it was very dusty. It felt like a hordes four or five story building. So it is amazing what it look like now. Pretty amazing!! Thanks for showing us. I would have never recommended anyone visit the old one, but this one looks amazing.
I would love to have one of the big boy in my back yard :)
I hope you have a BIG back yard!!!
Not yet but I will :)
Very cool place thanks guys have a great week
Thanks!! Have yourself a great week, as well!!
A number of years ago the Forney Museum relocated from its old location to the new one. While moving the Big Boy it derailed on a sharp curve. It took some work to get it back on the track.
I saw them wedge the challenger on a curve in 91. Sharp curve and the tender got stuck. On the rails. But wedged. They hooked a couple of diesel locomotives to it and gently pulled it through the curve. Minor damage to the rails. Wish I’d seen the big boy move!!
A good friend of mine was a cousin of the engineer of 4005, who was killed in the wreck. My friend has several items in his railroad collection that came from the 4005. After the 4005 was moved to the new museum location, he donated some of the items to the museum. One item that I remember that he donated to the museum was the oil can that his late cousin had used on the engine.
Hi. Super easy to find damage from the wreck. They didn’t try to repair everything. Just what they needed to.
Went there last July the same day I saw 844. She was over in the siding and I was next to 4005 when I found out, and I rushed to see her! It was my last day in Colorado for summer BTW. The next day I was about to go in the airplane back to texas, 844 was making her way home!
Every once and a while amazing things happen!! I was driving my car on the 126 in Ventura California when I passed a steam locomotive
Steaming at the side of the road. They were testing one of the steam locomotives on the Fillmore and Western. And I got whiplash
Awesome couple too.
Gee thanks!!!!
VERY GOOD INDEED THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS WITH YOUR SUBSCRIBERS I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH AND YOUR ADVICE AND THANK YOU FOR ALSO SHARING YOUR SCREWING AROUND TIME WITH YOUR SUBSCRIBERS WE ENJOY THE SITES AND DESTINATIONS OF YOY BOTH THANK YOU AGAIN. JIM KAMMERER OF PHILADELPHIA PA.
Great Video about a really great Museum. Visited in July 2016
Right?? Rode the trolley past the old one and saw the big boy (painted red!!?) outside. But never went in.
I'm gonna be visiting this museum a week from today with my family. Sure looking forward to it, along with the tourist line I'll be visiting too which I'm looking forward to visiting.
Just visited 4017. Almost complete. Got to play in the cab
Been wanting to go there. And we’re not even football fans!! )except Utah. Go Utes!!).
I believe the tubes you pointed out in the fire box are thermic siphons which circulate water from the the fire box water legs to the top of the crown sheet.
Been reading. Weird. They seem to have several purposes. All based on stirring the water. There are some boilers totally backwards this way where all the tubes are filled with water and the vessel is all fire!!! But it ruins the tubes in record time. The water in the tubes is really boiling hard.
if i ever get to a museum that has a Big Boy i guarantee you ill spend of my time just getting lost around the BigBoy cause to me thats what a steam engine is, Big, Powerful, and Alive!
It’s amazing to see this huge machine inside a building. Just amazing
I'm English and not in to trains, but Big Boy is beautiful. Amazing machine.
Wow awsome museum such a cool variety
Right?? Great place. Wait until you see the models.
Thanks for your work! I took the liberty to post a link of this episode on a model railroad forum that I subscribe to. I though that you may like to see a comment posted on that thread. "The hosts do a nice job with this. They seem to add a lot of meaningful commentary, unlike some I've watched. The Big Boy was the main attraction for me. Wow, what a bunch of red knobs to keep track of. Running one of those things wasn't for amateurs. As the video moved on to the classic cars, I was struck by how great it was when automobiles had distinctive styling, unlike today when you can't tell one SUV from another. "
Please keep up the good work!
When I visited the Forney Museum I got there before 1:00 PM and stayed until closing, and I still did not see everything. I did get to see Big Boy 4005. I also saw Big Boy 4018 at the Museum of the American Railroad in Dallas.
Steven Martin They both look in such great condition. Wonder why UP didn't choose any of them
Thanks yet again.
Another lovely video showing an amazing historical aspect of transportation in the USA. Magnificent cars and a very nice Big Boy. You make me envious with your screwing around in that area because as a Dutch Australian international model living in New York City at one time on a superb ski trip in Steamboat Springs Colorado I was so impressed with the awesome beauty of the area that I immediately bought seven acres of land there with the intention to build a log house and enjoy life there but unfortunately the dream never came about. So I live it through your very entertaining videos. Thank you so much. Hello from Oz.
This was 1984. I revisited the place in 1988 and ended up selling it to help finance my three year VW campervan trip from Alaska to Tierra del Fuego. Now that was an amazing experience of screwing around!
Thank you! This a great area. I have been lucky to always live in amazing places. Grew up in Salt Lake City right at the base of Dale Peak, Mt Olympus and Grandeur Peak. With a "ghost town' , abandoned railroad, stream and "swimming hole" in a gully half a mile away. Later went to school in Ogden Utah, also at the base of a mountain, with a hiking trail out the door into "Waterfall Canyon". From there I moved to Paris. NOW that was a shock to the system, but one of the worlds most beautiful cities. Than back to Salt Lake City to a place only a mile from the "old home". Now garagemahal. Then I split my time between that place and several apartments in Hollywood working in TV. Hollywood is... well... Hollywood. But I still had Garagemahal and the mountains to keep me sane. Later full time back in Salt Lake in a new place a block from Garagemahal. Had several great layouts and a perfect view of Mt Olympus. BUT then a big move to St George Utah. Right at the base of cliffs called Kayenta Utah. Two years later, moved to Lake Tahoe on the Nevada side. Geeeeezz. At first on a stream in the trees about a mile from the lake, and later right on the lake. From there work took me to Santa Barbara California. Lived in the hills in Ojai. Santa Barbara is, I think, the most beautiful place in the world. Perfect climate. Only gets hot in the winter, may hit 90. ANYWAY, now back in Utah, met Karyn in Sanpete County south of here where I had the idea to buy a 19th century house and fix it up, like your plan to move to Colorado, never happened. But I don't rule it out. We still have the house and if it doesn't fall down, we may yet fix it and move. BUT I doubt it.
I was wondering if you meant Paris, Idaho up by Bear Lake, until you mentioned Paris being one of the world's most beautiful cities and it occurred to me that you meant Paris, France. Not that Paris, Idaho isn't pretty. It's still one of my favorite places and if it wasn't for their seriously cold winters, I'd actually try to buy one of the houses that my great grandfather built in the town and live there. Loved St. George as a kid when we'd travel through there to get from SoCal to Salt Lake City. I always marveled at those red cliffs and the stone gutters with the crystal clear water running through them. I haven't been there in years and I imagine it has grown quite a lot in population. I love old architecture, but have forever put aside any notion of fixing up an old house again. I bought what had once been an old miner's bunk house in Portola, CA and renovated it as best i could. I spent way too much money on it and never got it to where I wanted it before I left the winters behind for a less snowy climate near Yreka, Ca, where I could see the Yreka Western steam engine #19 go by from my back deck. Sadly, the railroad is now defunct so I no longer have that singular pleasure. It's funny where our lives sometimes take us, isn't it?
Toy Man Television thank you for your detailed response about your life and travels in your area. I think I feel connected. You speak of Hollywood. After spending a couple of years doing the international modelling circuit living in Milan, Zurich, Hamburg and Paris in Europe I met an American model girl and together we decided to live in New York City to work there for a couple of years. During this time I was selected to fly to Salt Lake City to work in the Arches National Park using my then rugged looks for a German Cigarette Campaign called Lets Go West (I still have some pictures on my Lounge Room wall of that shoot). That was a great experience. One of the guys suggested that I try for the international Camel Cigarette Campaign which I did and ended up being one of two guys selected. I was flown twice in First Class to Los Angeles to do the testing in an old abandoned quarry where apparently they shot many Westerns with the Hollywood sign directly in front of me. In 1982 this was more than a million dollar contract. I stayed on Sunset Boulevard next to the Palace where all the celebrity footprints are. I was paid US60000 in those days to say no to other cigarette companies who were interested in using me. I didn't get the campaign but ultimately the dollars from a couple of years of modelling paid for my house which at least I can enjoy close to the beach here in Australia one mile from the Cruise Ship Terminal and next to the Railway Station where our club is building a transition era American layout. I can also therefore emphasise with the Hollywood that you know better than me. Love of trains is one of my major enjoyments at the moment and in addition to my own layout (which you can see on my UA-cam channel Train Lord RUNNING TRAINS ON MY LAYOUT) I also video the cruise ships which come to Port during the summer season. I've enjoyed the chat with you. Cheers from Christiaan in Adelaide South Australia.
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I've always been interested in the Transcontinental railroad. Unfortunately, I've never seen steam run through the original Summit tunnels. With all the old movies of these trains, you'd think this would be a great place to film.
At 85, with poor eyesight, I'd like to dispose of my old model railroad "stuff". Mostly Hon3. It has no value, but allot of parts that someone might find usefull. I'd gladly ship this "snuff" and you could dispose of it into the right people. God bless and keep em coming
OL Ron
Gee, Hon3. Love that stuff too!!! Are you sure no one there want's it? If you really want to, send us an email at dangell@xmission.com. Don't want to put an address on FB. We have walked through the summit tunnel. Amazing to just be there thinking of how and when and by whom it was made. At the center is a vertical shaft. Only about 40 feet down, where the Chinese were lowered down to start digging out from there so they could be working 4 faces at once. But it's like 40 feet down!! Just hard to imagine they would not just "daylight" this into a cut. But back then, with no equipment, cutting down even 40 feet was harder than just building a tunnel.
This was a real treat It's amazing how, as you both went through the collection you noted pieces you both owned or your brother. That makes a place that much better. Thank you for sharing. Greg and Jeanne
Hi guys!! Some fun too. GEEZE!! Someone said the pedal car David wanted is a Gym Dandy Surrey. We found one on eBay!! Hum, that's all we need right? But sure be fun to see David's grand kids on one......
An amazing collection thanks for sharing it with us.
The model cars will be a followup show in two weeks. Or three.. Just depends on stuff happening!
Kinda wish you had shown more of the airplanes. i actually owned and flew an Ercoupe like the one at 0:31, and the swing seat version of the Quicksilver ultralite ( the museum has an MX fixed seat version) at 0:40. Both were a gas to fly. I also have done some carriage restoration work in the past and drive horses, so I loved the glimpses you gave of the carriage collection. Top that off with the locomotives and cool old cars and you have the perfect museum. Neat!
They only have a few planes. Like 3. They may be all in the video? Not sure. Don't know much about planes.... Sept they re FUN!! Did you see the show in the Tri Motor Ford?
Afraid I missed that one. Will try to find it. Your videos are always interesting. I once saw a Ford Tri Motor at a Long Beac,h CA airshow back in the 70's. Neat airplane and certainly distinct with its corrugated sheathing and big ol' radial engines. the wicker seats must have been a trial to sit in for long periods of time, tho'. Heavy looking sucker, too.
Great video as usual! Thanks for sharing,
Poor 55! I love the Case steam tractor.
I honestly think it is a Chevy Transformer!
I'm going through my list of videos, and I had came across this one and wondered how I had missed it! I use to live in Denver over 20 years ago and I never knew about the Forney museum. This episode was a treat to watch with all of the different modes of transportation on display. Thank you for such a great informative video.
The old museum was not that big of a deal I will be always had a big boy. But now that they’re in that new building it is really a treasure
Great Video..... there is ONE very important thing about the 4005 that you did Not mention, and that is.... the 4005 was the only one of the UP 4000 class that was (for a brief time) converted to oil.... which didn't work too well due to insufficient and uneven oil distribution in the firebox, which of course resulted in insufficient and inconsistent boiler pressure. I've never been inside the Fourney Museum, (live in MT.) but Very thankful that they Finally got the 4005 indoors after so many years sitting outside. Love all your videos and Thank you Both for all your great work, I'm a subscriber with notifications.
Stay safe in all your travels...... OH!! and PS: that steel "block" with one eye.... is (Very Sadly) a 1955 Chevy.... hopefully it was Not a 2-door Belair with the "continental kit", fender skirts, twin rear-mounted radio antennae, and "fuzzy dice" hanging from the rearview mirror, etc, etc, etc. : (
Belair yes... Sad :-< Let's hope 4 door but even still. Although perhaps if my brother was still with us he could take it on as a restoration. Yes on the oil! Ed feels he has it figured out. Sure hope so!!!! UP will not allow coal on the line ever again. Never mind the problems getting coal into the locomotive every 200 miles. Just dump the load here at the Amtrak depot, I'll go look for a front loader. The Challenger works well but then they always did. The Big Boy has the WEIRDEST (most modern?) boiler ever stuck on a locomotive. The size of that firebox!!!! BUT if Ed says they have it figured out, my bet is they do.
that crushed car was once a 1955 chevy, I own a 1957 210 four door myself. awesome cars, they ride like clouds as they float over pot holes. nice and simple to take care of too, mine has a 235 I6 which is the original engine to boot.
Yup!!! I had a green 55 which I traded for a 57 Belair that I raced. And wrecked. Idiot!!!!!!!!!! :-
Toy Man Television my 57 is Highland green funny enough! Ouch, yeah not the smartest thing but hey it was fun while it lasted.
Wow that is a great looking museum! If I ever get that way again I'll head there! Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!! We have the other half of this on the model cars coming soon!! Keep an eye out.
Awesome Forney Museum collection
We had no idea. ANd we did not show the model cars!! That will be an upcoming show. But one of the best, er, just the best, collection of model cars we have ever seen!!!
You should plan a trip to Nashville, Tennessee to see the Lane Motor Museum. Be sure to take the basement tour.
Ahhhh.... The Ole Basement Tour!! It's been my experience that is where the real good stuff is kept! We will definitely put this on our list of places to visit!! :D
Love to at some point!
You have such great adventures, I'm a bit jealous, but I'm always glad you video them for us to enjoy too!
We do have some fun!!!! Off to a truck show with steamip. Antique equipment. Hit and miss engines. Then off to Kansas for the Nmra. Wow!!!
I really want to go there now
Do go!! They will probably have a bunch of new stuff out!!
Its cool We didnt show the models, yet, follow up show. TOTALLY amazing cars including every Pocher ever made. They can only display less than a third of the models, so they cycle most of them through ever few weeks.
Now this is most certainly the great high art of screwing around.
It really is! I nearly flipped when we discovered that little peddle cart, with the red and white striped top... I really wanted one as a kid! How cool would that be to tool around the neighborhood in that!
AND we just found one on Ebay!!! Planning to drive it back from Michigan. On I 80. Hummmmm Or not. Fed Ex? One of the GREAT parts of being a grand parent is you can use that as an excuse to buy toys. Even pedal cars. Hay Mia!! We need you to drive something for a bit!! Hope you are well!! Thanks fer watching.
My first street bike was a Honda CB 350. The
miles and places I went on her!
Right? I don't remember the type exactly. The one in the video is CLOSE. But mine was a 350 like yours. Had the weird angle pipes they said were for "street or trail". I abused in on both. Ended up dumping it several times, and after ending up up side down under it in the mountains, I figured I'd better stick to 4 wheels. Or 3.... Went through that phase too. ANDWAY traded the 350 for a Bole 16mm movie camera. And started filming anything that moved. Still at that.
Mine was a CB 100.... But... The same! Oh the places we went!!
Cool museum . one squashed 55 Chevy Belair.
You are Correct!!!! Somebody had tried to blow up that '55 Chevy.... But they burned their lips on the exhaust pipe!!
LOL
That's great bet y'all had a,fun
Fer sure!!! Wait till you see the models in 2 weeks!!!
Looks like it would be worth the trip just to get up close to a Big Boy. Can't wait to see 4014 in action.
Well worth it. Wow!!
55' Chevy for sure!
Yup! Bel Air to be precise! :]
Yup!! I had one. for a few weeks. Green one. Traded it for a 57 witch, sadly, I wrecked.
Enjoyed the Forney Museum. My dad was hauled behind 4005 on a troop train in WW2. He told the story of how the conductor of the train hauled several servicemen up to see the Big Boy. Though my dad grew up in Pocatello, he only had a mild interest back then. Later years he bought one of Max Grey's oreiginal Big Boys because it was 4005. I still have it and I visited the Forney Museum to see the locomotive in person. I only wish they had more space to stand back and really take in the whole locomotive. I didn't see my favorite car in your video... worse thing is, I don't recall what it was. I may have to go back to look at my pictures. BTW was the cube a Nash Metro? Either that or a Borg Scout Ship
Not a nash... HINT. You could drive it to the levy in spite of the levy being dry. Thats a great story about 4005. What a hauler.... That MAx Grey is COOL. Worth bucks too. But more valuable for other reasons.
That ole Big Boy is difficult to take in at a glance.. let alone try and film or photograph. Even the knobs and dials are huge! I suppose the only way to capture it's majestic size, will be to try and video the 4014 coming down the tracks on it's debut voyage... I hope that I am able to capture more than just a gigantic wheel roaring past!
What was interesting about the big boys was during their regular service from 1941-1959 all of them were never called on to travel to California.
Nope. Just Cheyenne to Ogden. Really designed just for that track!! They ran huge rigid 12 driver locos to the east of Cheyenne. And west of Ogden was the OSL and Salt Lake Los Angeles and San Pedro. And had their own locomotives.
Toy Man Television Yup they also traveled to North Platte, Nebraska and Denver Colorado.
awesome museum :)
It truly is! I had never heard of it.. and the outside of the building isn't overly impressive. Off the beaten trail, one just might drive on past! But inside tells another tale! Do stop by, if you get to Denver. Quite impressive!
The cube is from the movie Top secret or Gold finger
His relatives appeared on the movie, Wall-E!
The thing that you asked what it is is a car that was crushed up into a cube to be recycled or scrapped.
Could be the end result of rush-hour traffic!
Went today it is really cool
pretty sure the cube was once a chevvy 55 maybe? would break my heart if it was a 57.
I loved seeing a Hispano Suzia car. my favorite lady detective Phryne Fisher drives one!
Also that little kid's cart thing at the end was cute. What's it called?
Don't recall the "real" name of that peddle car. David called it the "surrey". Does look like one sort of. Looking for one on eBay. No luck so far..... 55??? Yeppers...
+Toy Man Television I found what it's called. a Gym Dandy Surrey. A Surrey is a type of bicycle and Gym Dandy was a company that made tricycles.
THANK YOU THATS IT!!! They are all over. About 500... Ouch!! BUT at 50 in 1960, adjusted for inflation, 600. So......
It looks like a crust car from the Brave Little Toaster.
Okay..... You Win!!!!! I am laughing uncontrollably.... That just made my day!!!
While not widely known, the Brave little Toaster had a cousin. Brave Little Blender. When he spoke it was like a Japanese Monster movie. He was always a little out of "sink". His wife, Margareta, was a salty old gal. But good to have around when you needed a laugh.
No Forney locomotive at the Forney museum?
Right?? Funny. Forney never bought one I guess. But that Porter...... that’s as good as it gets.
The little crushed car look like the first little Ford “compact car” that they came out with approximately in the late 60s ?
55 belair. Very compact.
At 12:13, what is that thing with the canopy over it?
That is a Gym Dandy Surrey! (as seen on the Danny Thomas Show) Fun toy, and we are looking fer one!!
Was that a crushed Corvette?
The Chevy part is correct...
The cable car did not precede the steam locomotive. All major cities but one had a cable car system before the lines were electrified. If you had said that cable cars were before electric street cars you would be correct. Kansas City had the largest number of companies and lines at one time. Many horse car lines were converted to cable car then converted to electric street car or trolley. The trolley term is the wheel that was in contact with the wire for picking up the power before the slider was invented. Check out the book "Cable Car in America".
In street railways yes. I suppose it depends on what you want to call a cable car. I found one from 1790 used in a Michigan gunpowder mill used to lower the finished gunpowder down to a storage magazine on a river over a mile away. The weight of the loaded cars pulled a string of empties back up to the mill. In this way the power could be shipped out on a boat, and if (when) the magazine blew up the loss was minimal. Not at all sure but I assume cables and ropes were used on railways and rutways going back to the very beginning. Until the static steam engine, all of these would have used gravity, however the same gunpowder mill was powered by water. Some sort of mill wheel or turbine. And I wonder if anyone ever used that to pull carts.
Its a car turned into a cube
That is where the idea for the Nissan Cube came from... Only with seat belts!!
Yup. Chevy cubed. Sad (:-
Toyman Jerry Jacobson of the age of Steam Museum 10 to 15 years ago was trying to purchase one of the big boys for restoration and running in Ohio but somehow the deal fell through and if I'm not mistaken I think it was one near or around Texas
One of the big boys changed hands about then. I don’t recall the details but groups have been trying to pull this off for years. But UP is DOING it. Wow. When you really look at it it’s almost not doable. And where can you run it? UP can run it. All over the country. .
10:17 Christine I think
Christine was red. And not painted with a brush. Brush!!?? Whatever. Before it was cubed it was a Chevy. With a very unique signal light.
ok
Either a 55 belair or an old corvette
55 yup.
Daley, Back in the day $300 was a lot of money. If you had it and went to pull it out to buy a car you might trigger a run on the bank! I'm going to go out o mlm a limb here and say the cubed car was a1955 Chevy Belair. Just a guess. I first thought Edsel or Studebaker but all the Edsel variants had double headlights as did the Studebakers. The latter had some exotic models with single headlights. I could be totally way off base and completely wrong which wouldn't surprise me.
Yup!!! 55 Chevy! First car my brother bought ( when he was 10) cost $15. But you could get a really good driver for $100. I bagged a 63 Fairlane for $25. Brand new Beatle for $1250.
56 Chevy??? of the Bel Aire type???
It's a 55.. So.. Right there! Bel Air is correct!!
You were right with the Borg ship ( I had a dentist named Borg. Dr. Borg. Great dentist. .....AND he didn't need the head mounted magnifier. Had one built in. Anyway the 56 is Really really close!!!! The signal light is wrong for a 56. Just a bit...
The car that was crushed was... an Edsel?
Nope. Not a Granada either but I’d like to see that. Hint. You can drive it to the levy but the levy is dry.
Chevy
YUP. Now, what year? The signal light is unique on thin model. Same as the old speed limit....
You're not going to make this easy are you... :) You're TOYing [no pun intended] with my emotions...:) 1955?
My guess and i hope i am corecct is its christine from the end of the movie christine
Awww.... But she had 4 eyes!!!
55 Chevy;)
Yup!!!!
When i first went to the Forney the big boy was stuck in a back lot and it was too big to be displayed with both the tender and loco on one track.
That was in the 70s
First time I saw it it was outside as well AND they had painted the running rear red, like of a German loco. Goooood hell.
That box looks like a crushed car, why is that car crushed. What happen to all of your brothers cars. Are they still in the family or are they owned by other people now
It's in GREAT shape!!!! "Cubed" is a shape... 3D....
55 chevy
Yes!!!
Now that looked like an amazing place to go!!! Could you give me the address so I can try and go?
Geee don’t know. We just asked Apple Siri and she got us there.
You guys should check out the atsf 2926 sometime in Albuquerque NM
On our short list!! We have talked to those guys.. What a project!
When I saw it for the first time they were testing the air pumps and I stood next to the wheel but it was taller than me
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55 chevy - shoe box
Good call.
Big boy 4005 was in a train wreck on April 27th 1953 in Red Desert Wyoming all because it went over a junction
It’s really easy to find damage from that wreck. Was never fully restored.
@@ToyManTelevision ok and from the train the locomotive and 18 cars derailed
@@ToyManTelevision here is a short video of the train crash m.ua-cam.com/video/R06o4hbbHbk/v-deo.html
1955 Chevy Belair
AND.... WE HAVE A WINNER!!!!! :P
Yup!!!!! Painted with a brush!!!
Not sure 25000 gal in one hour is a correct estimate.
It depends on load. But with 4014 they sometimes use most of the water in all three tenders in a day. 20,000 gallons in the main and 23,000 in each of the other two. And a day is now about 4 to 5 hours moving. It really eats water and oil. (Coal on this one). I guess a more realistic number would be about 10,000 gallons per hour under load.
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There was talk about UP restoring that one as they have it. But 4014 is in much better shape
4005 was going to be restored but UP decided against it because 4005 derailed on the wye at Hanna when a clueless switchman lined the switch to the wrong track and it plowed into a work train. Because of that derailment 4005 is damaged beyond repair and permanently retired and now rest in the Forney Museum.
HI. While you can see some of the damage, the loco was repaired and returned to service. The tender and cab were totally destroyed , but in general the loco was fine, and went on to work well. BUT because of the scars, and a reminder of the people killed, perhaps not the first choice. AND Forney loves it. Most of the people coming to the Forney are only coming to see 4005. SO if they gave that up would it kill the museum? It could. Even the Pamona guys felt this. If we give up the Big Boy will people still come? In their case, YES. AND UP is letting them be part of the restoration and fund rase. So they will be part of the 4014 group forever. Great fit!
The accident happened in 1953. The locomotive was repaired and continued to serve Union Pacific until the end of Big Boy service in 1959.
Ah 4005 the first crashed big boy.. oh yes! A big boy has crashed before. I think it was from a switch pointed to a curve during 70 miles? Dunno. Saw a video tho.
Yup. Still lots of damage. Really messed it up.
That poor car why was it crushed
I dunno.... Time to clean out the garage, I suppose. Difficult to squeeze the car in, with all the junk...
Always sad to see a car scrapped. Unless its a Maserati Biturbo. Then crush away.
Some sort of unfortunate vehicle 🚗
It's kinda sad.. I always think about the scene in Monsters Incorporated, where Sully thinks that Boo was turned into a cube.. he swoons and nearly passes out from fright.. Very sad, but then.. Boo is okay. I don't think that they do this to cars anymore.. Just flatten them! Ahhh!!! Okay. Let's just hope they are recycled into new cars and trucks!
sad to see a classic cubed this way. :-
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