😱 What If You Return To Harkon, But Get Infected With Regular Vampirism in Skyrim?
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Have you ever thought about what could happen if you returned to Harkon, cured of pure-blooded vampirism, only to become infected with regular vampirism in the process? I decided to check it out. First, I went to Falion to cure myself of pure-blood vampirism. He led me to the swamps where he performed a ritual, and after that, I became a regular human. Later, I found a cave with vampires in the vastness of Skyrim, where, after a considerable amount of time, I still managed to contract common vampirism. After waiting a couple of days, I finally turned into a vampire, but now without the ability to transform into a vampire lord. After that, I headed to Castle Volkihar. So, Harkon. I approached him, and here's what he said.
- Ігри
Okay but HOW patient is he? Like how many times will he just refill your ancient blood like a plug to an addict?
Infinitely I would presume
I tried it a few times to see if he would get mad after a few tries... you can do it an infinite amount of times lmao
You can only cure vampirism once I believe
@@Rith9789you can also cure it if you get lycanthropy
@Rith9789 that was just in morrowind, pretty sure both skyrim and Oblivion that restriction was removed
as en elemental hero player that last duel was super satisfying to watch
he gives you this same dialogue if you lose the vampire lord for any reason, including turning into a werewolf
Instead of Pure-blood vampirism, why not call it Royal Vampirism.
He's kinda fine (harkon I mean) 😭
I'm still annoyed that you have to let him turn you to join the Vampires, I wanted it to be waifu-I mean Serana
Oh shit, DO IT AGAIN
How do u turn into the bat vampire thing????
Интересно!!!
What if you talk to him as a Werewolf?
So u can just keep doing this?
Yee
I love how Skyrim has all these niche extra dialogue
harkons dialogue is the same if you come back as a human, werewolf im not sure though
It's really dumb because it shows that there are no consequences to your actions. Harkons just like whoops yea lets revert back to the status quo.
games not as detailed as you think.
@@evil1143yeah its more of a choose-your-own-adventure game than a create your own outcome game
@@evil1143credit where its due, they paid attention to the entire world and its consequences and adjusted at least dialogue to match (seeing as to how much videos this guy has)
He says the same thing if you cure your vampirism. It’s just dialogue that’s granted when you remove the pure blood
Not really, here he sounded weary, and disappointed in their wayward child, whereas as a human he is actually pissed
@@samuelhaverghast2442 That's total bollocks. It's the exact same voice line that's played when you talk to him as a human. Watch a video of it.
@@strategicnuclearmoose5017think Samuel just wanted a chance to practice his poetry, "wayward child" sure mate okay
Pure blood? You were never a pure blood in the first place anyone bitten by a vampire isn't a pure blooded vampire this is why normal vampirism is seen as a disease due to how far removed it is from the gift given by Bolag Bal granted in game visiting harkon is the only way to receive such a powerful gift but it's not the same as pure blooded vampirism that can only be given by Bolag Bal
@@bluehornet197 yeah load of waffle mate he never said the character is pure blooded, he said "the pure blood" because harkon gives you it and he has it. Typed all that just to sound smart and you got the first bit wrong
“Be still while i give you the ancient blood once more” sounded oddly sexual
Well funny you say that...
Oddly? He's a vampire. There's nothing nonsexual about it.
I wish they add a reply dialogue like, "Please be gentle with me..."
Aye aye aye! Keep your weird fetishes to yourself buddie!
@@narraliveproject2576 sure. now stay still while I *disseminate* my special gift into you! Can you feel *it* flowing through you? Do not resist. There is pleasure in pain 🧛
I thought he'd be like "... How the fuck did you lose the ancient blood?"
It's skyrim. Can't expect niche dialogue, just vague responses so you think there's niche dialogue.
How to fock did you lose the ancient blud, dovakhin? It's not a bag of fockin peanuts, is it?
Dragon born dropped it in a river.
You forget to cherish it
Dragonborn accidentally tossed it into a storage chest.
He sounds so dissapointed XD
More so annoyed he has to fill you back up.
"god damnit dovahkiin. this is the seventh time you somehow lost your pure blood this month."
Actually, he likes biting Dovahkiin, so he wouldn't refuse doing it another time xD
@@AffixedEvilthis makes more sense 😂 literally it's the blood of a dragon 🐉 said to be blood of Akatosh bloodline to him it's probably a treat and high blood pressure to him.
Vampire lord is actually cool when you get the perks. I had a level 82 pure mage build, on survival mode whole game, absolutely OP, suited him up with daedric armour in end game and used the vampire lord mist form to get around the map at amazing speeds while being invulnerable, like the smoke monster off lost.
I have been playing with the sacrosanct mod, which overhauls the entire vampire system. Totally new perk tree, way stronger passives in human mode but... when you're thirsty enough you lose hp oblivion style in daylight. It's offset with crazy strong powers like unbreakable invisibility and the ability to command anyone you can speak with.
And when fed, you can sacrifice that to heal hp/stamina/magicka like a level up, becoming thirstier. Also adds ways to get more blood potions.
Check it out, totally makes vampires more interesting. Actually gives me a reason to use Auriel's bow.
Idk how to edit but I wanna add, when fed you cannot die. You go down like an invincible NPC then get back up with a full restore, justthruster, and a message that says "Evil never dies!" Seriously a cool mod.
@@dfrostedwang5478 Sounds cool. I don't like how daylight in vanilla skyrim isn't really even an issue for vampires to just be wandering around in. From memory it was different before they added the dawnguard DLC, I think at one point maybe you did take damage like in oblivion but I might be wrong.
@@MEGAyognauts No in vanilla all daylight did was stop regeneration of hp, magicka, and stamina. I had over 2500 hours in skyrim on Xbox without dlc 😆 back when I was an irresponsible teenager.
Until about 3 days without feeding or blood potion, the sacrosanct mod works the same way. I have been going with ONLY magicka on level ups and have almost 900 magicka now so it's not a real issue.
Got apocalypse magic overhaul too, so I have Longstride to move quickly instead of sprinting. And ease burden instead of raising my carry weight. And deep storage which is just a chest you can access anywhere... maybe a little OP. With all that, going only magic is a solid choice.
One more thing about vampires though which I did not realize until I was in you know who's house for the thieves guild quest line... you drain 10 magicka/stamina per second when trespassing. I hadn't noticed because I have so much magicka lmao.
That's a really nice lore accurate downside to being a vampire. I approve.
@@MEGAyognautsyou did take minor dmg at max thirst, along with towns people becoming hostile, but it also had a much lower reduction to your stat bars, basically they traded being slightly weakened, but slowly dying to being severely weakened, so long as you don't have good status enchantments on your armor.
What if you get healed of pure vampirism and return as a werewolf?
Table flipped
Fun little fact just to make killing Harkon that much more cathartic;
The only true blooded vampires are the daughters of coldharbor. In the ritual, a woman in question is brutalized by molag bal and given the non linear nature of time in oblivion could be over the span of years or centuries. Should she survive the ordeal, she becomes a vampire and is returned to nirn; powerful, but mentally and physically ravaged.
It's implied through in game dialogue and elder scrolls books that Harkon pressured or even forced his wife and daughter to undergo the ritual just so they could then infect him with near perfect vamperism.
So not only is Mr. Superiority Complex not even pure blooded, but to even get his affliction, he made his own wife and daughter undergo arguably the most vile experience there is in the entirety of the elder scrolls.
It would certainly explain Serana's hesitance to speak on the subject of becoming a vampire, and why she is unwilling to entertain any relationship with the dragonborn; to say it was traumatic would be an understatement of titanic proportions, and gives that much more reason to make harkon's death as painful as possible.
From the in-game books I read in Morrowind Vivec underwent a similar ordeal. To be fair he was a god-like being at the time. Supposedly Molag decapitated Vivec so that they could watch themselves being violated in addition to feeling it. Vivec did gain additional power from the ordeal. Vivec is a hermaphrodite so I don't know why Molag would hesitate to violate a man directly as well. "holes is holes"
Lore fact: any vampire not infected by Molag Bal (via ritual insemination) is not considered a "full blooded vampire". Its just that Harkon, his wife, and his daughter were sired by Molag Bal directly the Dragonborn has access to the purest half-blooded vampirism on Tamriel.
Yes, I was a little mistaken. I was waiting for someone to finally notice.
Are you telling me vampirism is an STD with extra steps in this universe?
The males don't go through that ritual, only the females.
@@silence6408I was gonna say wait Harkon went through ritual insemination?! HA! Gay! lol jk but so how does he become a pure blood then?
@@haydenjurko He made a deal that involved the wife and daughter being questionabley consenting with molag bal's daedric shlong.
Hey so I was wondering what happens if you approach the Alik-r warriors looking for Saadia as a redguard woman character? Do they accuse you at first or immediately ask for help as they do any other character race.
there's no special dialogue, they just give you the quest as normal
Ahahah 😂 even if redguards all look a bit alike in skyrim they are not dumb, they know how Saadia looks like.
@@CreativeUsernameHere-r1kThey accuse redguard women all around skyrim before you first talk to them, so no, they don’t know what she looks like.
In older games, being cured of vampirism or lycanthropy made you immune to it forever. But now the games let you practically turn them off and on again like a switch. I thought the player would at least become immune to normal vampirism after being cured, but guess not.
As a life ling argonian my last play through I got vampirism just about everytime one ran out of the woods. I do like to go back to the soul Carine every once in a while.
No conséquences. That's a real problem in Skyrim (great game, but...)
Ohh please. You just wanted a another kiss from lord harkon.. Dont deny it. :D
Do it again, find the end of his patience.
Unfortunately there is no end to his patience. He will restore your ancient blood as many times as you want
If Harkon died then Serana will transform you.
Now be still while I give you the ancient blood once more...Damn Gina!
Being a vampire is so much better then being a werewolf but then again you can’t go out in the daytime..
If you shoot a bloodcursed eleven arrow into the sun, and then use the "clear skies" shout you can go outside and suffer no ill effects and the sky will be normal
you can if you get enchanted armor 😉
It's a waste to not being a vampire, there is so many powerful abilities waiting for you with your thirst.
@@zeronime284 true, is there a way to be a hybrid?
@@CelexiGOON yes, activate a Vampire Lord transformation immediately before drinking the blood that turns you into a werewolf by pressing the power shortcut button split second faster than pressing drink the blood but still pressing both button simultaneously. Do it in slow time for easier results. You know you did it right when the next cutscene comes you be in Vampire Lord form before changing to werewolf.
You get:
Both powers and transformation of werewolf and vampire lord ✔️
Perks of werewolf and vampire lord ✔️
Resist ice weak fire ❎
Impeding Harkon questline ❎
Sunlight weakness ❎
Cannot well rested ✔️
Thirst and all 4 stage of thirst powers ❎
He's a lot more chill than I thought 😂
Vampire bro has the hots for the Dragonborn and doesn’t want to admit it 😂
You can’t just het bored of Skyrim. There’s always some thing new to what ifs and why nots 😂
I had a glitch on my one save where every time I turned into a vampire lord and back again, I would be "cured" in a sense that I no longer had any vampire debuffs but could still change and had the powers etc. Court vampires refused to talk to me, but harkon wouldn't acknowledge it I guess because I still had the vampire lord power. Had to go get regular vampirism and wait, then go to falion and be properly cured, and then go to harkon EVERY TIME I turned into a vampire lord.
Such a generous man lol
Great idea to investigate, thanks!
I mean, it's just making sure you don't break the whole storyline, since the first time you agree to join him, you're committed and can't join the Dawnguard.
I haven't thought about that
Honestly, the best DLC Bethesda ever made. It was SO well thought out, and you can FEEL the passion they had for this storyline.
Ummm you should try shivering isles
@@kyleedwards6026 ah great point. I stand corrected.
@@kyleedwards6026 shivering isles by far the best dlc bethesda ever put out i doubt they will top it when TES 6 someday comes out
@@scrim1284shivering isles is the mfing goat but for Skyrim dawnguard is it baby.
The only gripe that I have about Dawnguard is that they force Serana onto you, with no way to kill her off
The fact that Harkon himself had to get pureblooded vampirism from his wife but acts like the biggest, most noble badass is hilarious.
Never played skyrim I'm thinking of giving it a go now
So basically, he was like
So you got read of pure vampiric power to get that trash....are you special or something?
What if you approach him as a regular vampire when he first offers you pure vampire blood
I'm new to Skyrim and being bombarded with these awesome informations is overwhelming 😂
I envy you, I would love to experience all of it again for the first time. But despite playing for more than 2 years now, I still find things in the game that I didn't know about.
Stop watching these and just explore. It's more fun that way. I haven't even discovered everything in the game and I've played it for years. Elder Scrolls games are blank canvanases.
A Vampire with "patients "lol nothing but time on his hands and yet he magudgenly gives u his Royal blood.
There should’ve been an option where Harkon straight up kicks you out after the 2nd time
Honestly makes me sincerely happy that they gave this option, because I have been avoiding becoming a vampire because I didn't know if doing so was a one-way ticket, now that I know that you can return to it, I might do the quest, cure myself, then go back to it later and see if I can cure myself again.
I want to be a werewolf, that's what I'm saying.
You can follow the Dawnguard side of the DLC and still get Vampire Lord from Serana once during the entry to the Soul Cairn and I'm pretty sure infinitely once the DLC is over and Harkon is beaten.
"And all you have to do is close your eyes and suck it out of a hose."
2024 anyone still playing Skyrim? I am
Try to talk to Alain Dufont before killing him. Don't know if you have a video about that already, but I in particular never knew he had dialogue.
"I only stay still for Brynjolf bi-"
Ok hear me out what if you know the word to almost all the shouts before going to the grey beards?
There's a reason this game was game of the year and we've bought it an average of 4-6 times lol
Specific shit like this is why i think ES-VI is taking so long.
It better be the reason why.
@@thomaswright981 It's because they've been working on Starfield instead, since Fallout 4 released. We probably won't see TES VI until like 2028.
@@yewtewbstew547 oh god, I really hope that's not the case, starfield felt so empty, not even a quarter of skyrim
@@PKensington I lost faith in tes 6 after starfield
This generic ass dialog is what you're hoping the future of the series is taking its time with?
I got cured 2 times in hopes I would unlock a new quest where I can fight the vampires. Becoming a vampire and going the vampire route was a mistake.
My Plan didn't work out. Can someone tell me if its still possible to join the dawnguard? Isran doesn't give me any new quest dialogue.
You don't need the ritual to cure yourself of vampirism. Just go to the Companions and become a Werewolf. I hate vampirism.
You sir are going to be a vampire lord if you like it or not
But honestly, why would you choose anything but Vampire Lord anyway? Especially if you're going with a mage build.
I never wanted to be a vampire.
Dark Elf
Its kinda sad how utterly bad vampires play in skyrim tho...the blood boiling during sunlight is too much
So what if you come back to him with lycanthrophy? Most likely getting it from Aela in the companions?
He's so forgiving he doesn't trip if you decided to become a werewolf in between missions.
9yrs playing skyrim, never knew this!
Literally the same dialogue if you just outright cure the vampirism and dont get re infected
so... he has no change to just coming to him outright cured.. eh, makes sense i suppose
In fairness, Harkon seems the type who would view common vampirism as merely a disease. To him, you've just somehow managed to lose the gift he's given you.
Bethesda can't make RPGs with consequences for shit.
So I was banned because my account is new? What a game 10/10
Thats nice they thought of this
"bro then why the fuck did you stick with us"- Harkon unscripted dialogue.
What if you do it twice though?
He's so annoyed that you would waste it, the man only has so much blood! lmao
You're still not a pureblood you're a Half-Blood you wasn't turned directly from the god
What happends if u do it again? Will the same line pop or will he banish you?
This game is just consistently a masterpiece
Just skip to last 7 seconds for the answer. All that padding is unnecessary. He doesn’t acknowledge the lycanthropy - just that you got rid of the blood he gave you.
The developers make sure a gamer will waste their time doing something pointless as this but still won't fix basic bugs or broken dialogues.
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honestly i can't stand people who do nothing but talk about their kids in general. i don't particularly like kids for a lot of odd reasons coming from my own childhood. i also developed a phobia over the years of pregnancy and childbirth. if i was in this environment that OP is in and this woman couldn't stop talking about only her pregnancy, i think i would have a nervous breakdown too. it sounds to me like she was being triggered (she had cancer too dude, not JUST fertility issues) and finally snapped. you can't CONTROL how you react when you are triggered and it honestly makes me very antisocial because i'm the kind of person that can extend my empathy and not take things personally when i have triggered or even just upset someone. (i also have an intense trauma history & am extremely sensitive to triggers, so maybe i am in the minority here). but yeah, just listening to the first story made me start twitching and i wasn't even physically present. some women just don't develop a personality until they're mothers and having interacted with people like that i can say they are pretty insufferable and have social blinders on.
Also , if you're a regular vampire when you arrive at first he's says 'You've contracted some common disease' and gloats that he's a real vampire lord
If you get infected with the normal vampirism will you still have the normal effects that you had with the ancient vampirism (like no regen or mana,health,stamina)
If you're already a Werewolf, his bite gets rid of your Lycanthropy for free without having to use a Glenmoril Witch Head and Aela will turn you back whenever you ask again.
Man, Skyrim never fails to amaze me, and i started on morrowind back in like 2003, and by 2008 i had put 100 plus hours into arena, daggerfall, morrowind, and oblivion each, so i really should be used to elder scrolls love of details, but after at least 2000+ hours (wtf is wrong with me) i still find new stuff like this
I do this everytime. I do the Morthal mission where you have to kill the vampires in the caves because I almost always get infected. Then I think it takes 3 days in game to go full vampire so in those 3 days I make it to Serena and she has a line of dialogue like, "I know what you are, isn't it obvious?"
My character has three choices, "I am a vampire." "You know what I am." Or "What am I?" And I always choose option 3 becuase canonically, he has only been infected for a few hours. Even he doesn't know what he is.
I wanna see what happens if you keep coming back cured of the pure blood and became human for the 5 time would something happen?
Could he like reject you and not wanting to give you the blood?
Whenever i do a vampire playthrough i get rid of Harkons blood and get Serana's, not only because I despise Harkon (which I do), but because visually I prefer Seranas pale skin over Harkons wrinkles and bat-like face.
I recently started the Dawnguard questline (Dawnguard path) and ended up contracting vampirism during the first attack on the fort. Conveniently found a cure disease potion inside the fort so no worries.
I've got some stupid glitch where I keep getting the debuffs of a vampire but I'm not counted as one. I mean I'm litteraly a warwwolf yet I have the sun debuffs
Man I recently started a play trough idk what happened along the way but I’m a vampire I can’t cure myself and I die in sun light I spent 3 hours trying to cure my self and running across the world at night trying to cancel my vampirism
Okay, but seriously, what was Harkon's plan? Why would he give you ancient blood ig his idea os to rule? The only ones strong enough to challenge his rule are other ancient blood vampires, so even if he planned to kill you off once he got what he wanted, he still made you far more powerful than needed.
But what would he say if you had originally chosen to become a Vampire Lord via Serana?
Kinda makes me wonder what happens if you immediately cure yourself after being turned then head to fort dawnguard. Will they kill you? How would they know?
I remember when I performed the ritual and it bugged...
I remained a vampire and somehow, I was accepted by the dawnguard because I completed that quest.
what happens if you're already a vampire when you meet him? I know when you're a werewolf he mentions his blood will purge your curse.
Meeting Harkon as a werewolf was hilarious. Man gave me shite about how I smelled and wanted to turn me, I refused. I left thinking: boy I’m gonna enjoy tearing him apart in werewolf form when the time is right. Needless to say, after maxing out the werewolf tree and on the final mission, that transformation into the battle felt amazing.
Became a vampire accidentally, it was cool at first because of the visual changes but the benefits didn't outweigh the downsides so i tried to get cured only for the quest to just break. He never showed up to do the ritual.
Played this game for 15 years, and it STILL surprises me.
This is why i cant game anymore.
i went to companions, cured wolf, became human again.
I find it slightly dull you cant play both sides.. i want to serve the vampires as a human.
how to have unlimoted wieght. if ur overwieght u can transform into the vampire lord and fly home fast and then transform back
It be interesting to see if you can just turn vampires back into humans besides yourself and your companion just to see everyone reactions
From both sides
"Be still , while I give you the ancient blood , once more , " all the from sitting in a chair ? huh !
I wish they had not made the vamps so weak I run wolf anyways but the vamps have so many weaknesses for the small pros
What if you start the questline while being a standard vampire?
Did you know players skills in magic affect the vampire lord abilities
This is what my dealer says when I haven’t bought from him in a week
what if you do the smart thing and become a werewolf instead so you dont have to deal with being useless during the day